Now that the dust has settled. Rate it. Honestly.

average

>>280173294 (OP)
8/10. I like the art.

8/10. Better messaging than grand majority of all shonen. Good art. Fair character utilization for how short it is. Some very flimsy arcs but makes murderfags seethe so it neutralizes

6/10
What nuance it had was far and few, exclusively only when mister hands disintegrate edition was involved. Other than that you just had a crybaby mc who stopped being a crybaby only to return to being one after rediscovering the power of friendship. Ending was also halfassed, author didn't have the balls to kill the mc so they just castrate him. Just a single peg above shibuya kaisen.

>>280173294 (OP)
5/10

>>280173294 (OP)
it's shit.

>>280173294 (OP)
A very weak 7/10. Not much else.

>>280173294 (OP)
its pretty average, 8/10

>>280173294 (OP)
Is this Marvel/DC for anime?
Not into super heroes

4/10 Deku was an awful main character and basically took all the shit parts from naruto.

- annoying and unlikable protagonist that eventually acquires an insanely retarded powerset mostly through their ass
- little to no romance, what's there is mostly shit yet shipping is wildly overrepresented in the fandom
- bloated with side characters that get sidelined with little to no development
- forced moments trying to come across as meaningful or sentimental that just end up being cringe like "the heart"
- terrible pacing

7/10 average shonen, probably still better than whatever western capeshit targeting the same audience was coming out through its run.

>>280173294 (OP)
7/10

>>280173294 (OP)
6/10 and then 4/10

>>280173294 (OP)
7/10

>>280173294 (OP)
upper 6

>>280173294 (OP)
5/10
Okay, I'll try to be as objective as possible. I really liked the beginning. Deku's journey from being a kid who almost committed suicide due to bullying to a hero who fights against true and terrifying villains.
But overall, I was disgusted by the relationship between Bakugou and Deku. The humor wasn't good, and the fights were kind of meh, average. But it was still good. Great art and really cute girls.
The peak of MHA, for me at least, was the fight between All Might and Afo. After that, I never felt the manga ever had that level of hype again.
The point where I felt MHA went from good to straight-up bad was when Deku got all 7 Quirks. I think that was the high point for me when the manga started to go to shit. I still held out a little longer for Enji, but overall I dropped the manga before that arc when Shigaraki and Deku fight, and Deku goes crazy with his powers. I read some snippets here and there when Deku was in anti-hero mode. But lately I stopped reading anything related to mha when the final arc was about to start or a little before.

>>280174238
If I had to compare it to JJK and KNY, it would be something like: JJK > KNY > MHA. JJK and KNY are generally good. JJK is ahead of KNY because it has more high points and better fights, too. I also like Yuji more than Tanjiro (I don't even remember his name; I had to look it up online).
However, KNY has a better ending and some points that are higher in quality than JJK's, so that's why it's second. Both are good, nothing incredible, a generational masterpiece or something like that in terms of quality, but still a good read.
MHA was like that at the beginning, but it got worse or the writing errors became obvious later, making it a bad manga overall. Reviewing everything from beginning to end, it's not worth reading.

>>280174319
>because it has more high points and better fights, too
It also has the lowest lows of the three and a thoroughly shit ending.
And Yuuji is basically a non character.

>>280173294 (OP)
A solid 7/10.

I'm gonna miss this series for all its faults. People can say what they want but MHA is by far the most SOVLFUL shounen we've had since the Big 3 era and will be remembered for a very long time. The world feels like a living breathing place, the characters feel like living breathing people because it actually spends time building characters. It does the seemingly impossible task in a shounen, which is making the characters not one-dimensional. And it's able to have the entire cast come together and have meaningful and complex interactions with each other. When you have thought out, complex characters like Endeavor or Twice, your series will always have something to talk about, unlike the usual shounen slop you mighy get.

KnY relies too much on tropes and surface-level character interactions that all happens off-screen, giving me zero incentive to really care about anyone. And it makes the characters feel one-dimensional and geared toward narrative convenience rather than character depth. That's why I don't really give a shit about any of its characters and why should I? They're just devices who exists to move the plot forward and there's not really any depth to any of them. None of the characters are really memorable. The world is also very empty and nothing happens outside the sphere of the story. It's a series that lives and dies by its animation.

JJK is perhaps the least sovlful nu-shounen, though. I remember a Hunterfag copypasta about how there are no actual characters in JJK, just empty imitations. This is true. The whole series is carried by hype and memes, built by shock value, “aura”, cool one-liners, and fights beefed up in the anime. Outside of Gojo, I don't really remember any of the characters. Yuuji himself was a nothing burger of a protagonist and was sidelined for half the manga. So was Nobara and Megumi for that matter too. Say what you want about MHA, at least Hori made it clear MHA is Deku and Bakugou's story.

What kind of review scale are we using in this thread? Is 5 average or is 7 average?

>>280175349
I give it a 5 out of 10, but by that I mean it's bad but not that bad, just below "good"
but it seems that several here are using the one above

7/ 10. Between jjk,mha and kny, i rank them like this. mha = jjk >> kny

Up to 430, 9/10.
431, 6/10.

>>280176439
Don't you feel embarrassed to have such transparent and irrelevant priorities when it comes to judging the story

8/10
The series started solid and only got better until it peaked in Kamino, but the decline was slower than I remembered upon reread. OM7Q is somehow made even worse by the time you finish the manga and get the message. The ending chapter was shit and gave Deku another handout when by that point he could become a hero through his own merits because of his good deeds from when he had a quirk and cash he should have for saving the world. The Ochaco and Deku relationship was mishandled beyond belief for no discernable reason.
Class 1-A becomes a hivemind with no independent thought somewhere in the middle. Saving dark deku, "Yeah", and We Are Here rang hollow because we barely saw the class hang out past the cultural festival, and in those, Aoyama was a joke character and Deku was either gone or with his pals
Art was still great, world was still interesting, powers still did cool things, and visible Tooru is still the hottest character in the manga

If a new reader came in and marathoned the whole manga, taken as a whole it’d be 6.5/10. Very weak plot, most characters are weak, but it’s carried mostly by STRONG and CONSISTENTLY GOOD art. A few of the characters (All-Might, AfO, Shiggy) carry what little character interest there is, so in the end analysis it’s worth reading overall, just don’t expect greatness or even a top-10 experience.

>>280176769
Nope. Compared to the ones rating it 5/10 or 3/10, I'm generous. 430 ending was a logical conclusion to Izuku's tale. 431 upended that and made a ham-fisted attempt at "fixing" many of the shortcomings online trolls were disgruntled about and it brought down my respect for Hori's story telling several notches. Again, others have been more critical of him than I am.

a 7/10 that slowly declines to a 4/10 and then later falls off a cliff to a 2/10

>>280174238
>>280174319
>JJK and KNY are generally good

Bot posts

>>280178121
Bad takes the post

>>280173294 (OP)
7/10. Starts good. Drops after kamino. Drops some more towards the end, but still retains a few strong moments.

9/10
Great art, characters, themes, world. Yes it has faults or thing that could be improved, but the overall package is greater than the sum of its parts. It tells a complete narrative about what truly makes a hero and the value in giving and recieving help.
>>280178387
431 was just an extra story. According to Hori 430 is also a bonus and 429 was the conclusion to the story. All 431 did was follow up on 430, how did it upend anything?

7/10
Really good premise with solid and interesting worldbuilding around it. Striking art style and probably some of the best character designs in all of shonen. Main character’s goals and struggles are handled pretty well early on when it’s a real underdog type of story. Unfortunately the series falls into a lot of the same shonen tropes we’ve seen time and time again. Asspull plot points that obviously weren’t thought out well enough, powescaling through the roof, fumbling the ending, etc. The majority of it’s run was fine but there’s a noticeable shift and decline at a certain point.

>>280173294 (OP)
From beginning to middle: 8/10
From middle to end: 4/10
Starts out strong with a good plot and characters, devolves into absolute shit, when exactly? I'd say after Stain PEAKED the story, with a small drop in quality with the Beak guy, but not too noticeable
Everything after that is just a slog

>>280173294 (OP)
10/10. i love it

6.5/10 up through the first muscle villian vs. deku fight then it's a 4/10. Other than the generally obnoxious tone it's one of the ugliest WSJ manga OAT, shit weekly read.

>>280173294 (OP)
7.5/10
A mixed bag with some Amazing characters and plot points but also a lot of shit and missed potential.
>Good stuff
-Amazing Art
-Characters like Hawks, Twice, Endeavor, All Might, Shigaraki, Gentle, And Mirio have outstanding writing
-Cool world building without wasting time on info dumps or autistically make things different and overcomplicated
-the themes are clear and somewhat well developed
-Cute Female characters
>Bad stuff
-MC is Boring garbage
-AFO is redundant after Shigaraki awakens and his presence only hurts the plot
-Characters like Toga, Uraraka, Dabi, and Spinner are hot garbage
-the whole romantic subplot is just a waste of time

8/10, but then I am judging the story according to the second scale posted ITT. Even though it's good to amazing on all relevant aspects, there were just a few too many small issues for me to give it a nine.
One thing I do want to praise is how well the story stands up despite how many times it had to be adapted on the run. There were various occasions where the plan changed, whether due to a bad audience reaction, Hori's health failing him, or just him changing his mind. The changes we know about generally improved the story and were integrated into it well.

>>280173294 (OP)
6.5/10

Still stands clearly out and above the average battle shonen fare (which for reference on my scale tend to stand at a solid 5/10) due to the consistency of its art quality and character design, which have always been Hori's strong suit. Writing-wise, All Might's easily the character Hori pulled off best throughout the series. I'm also just happy Hori got such a major break after years of getting constantly axed.

Greatest weaknesses are the protagonist and his issues with power scaling (Deku losing the whole, much cooler bonesnap-power gimmick), and pacing out the story beats in general, especially early on. Often feels very aimless, like the story's not really going anywhere. We barely get a chance to know most of the bloated cast only to move on to a next batch of 6+ people we are now supposed to be interested in (Yakuza arc is the first and most prominent culprit, but see also Villain League, Exam and so on).

Shigaraki's power creep seems to be the only direction that the story consistently manages to build up, as in terms of aims and goals Deku and co. go nowhere (Teamwork among classmates? Eh, bored now, let's have Deku solve everything. Is Deku going to save the day? Woah, let's not get too crazy. Is he progressing towards the professional side of heroics? Oh wait, nevermind. Is he interested in finding out more about All Might and his predecessors? Whoops, no time for that. Dark loner hero phase? Gone a few chapters in.)

>>280173294 (OP)
>No MC has a special father
>No MC's mother is dead
>No Rival becomes MC's villain
>No MC's master needs to die for him to evolve
>No Talk no jutsu
>No Power of friendship
>No Villain is saved and becomes good
>No Dindu nuffin (Endeavor didn't became father of the year despite wanting to redeem himself)
>No Plot twists and shock value over characterization
>No Everyone had a tragic flashback
>No Heroine becomes a housewife
>No MC becomes the God of the Universe
>No Ending with marriages and successor children
>Great art
>Great message
>Great interactions

8.5/10

Unironically one of the most artistically underrated shonen of the last few years.

>>280173294 (OP)
good start, mid middle, bad end stretch
fans are the literal worst
seems like the author actually resents it how he refuses to try and stop making the worst decision possible
Cool volume release art though. I like the comic book inspirations.
overall, very generous 4/10

>>280173294 (OP)
6/10. Ending suck ass. If the author is too shy and can't do proper payoff then don't even bother with timeskip.

>>280175349
MHA is bout right here. Better than mediocre but not quite average

>>280173294 (OP)
better than JJK for sure

>>280173294 (OP)
One of the best shonen of the last decade
6/10

>>280179303
The standards have been in hell for ages when you consider that the board has a fucking frieren friday

>>280173294 (OP)
3/10
2 points for art 1 for the ""potential"" the story had. in regards to what i dislike about the story and my reasoning for giving it a low score
>author's pets get immunity with the story bending over backwards to cater to them. consequences for their actions don't matter wrong things they did are never brought up and everyone conveniently ignores their flaws.
>lots of retcons or badly set up story beats, the story eventually devolves into events happening on a whim, with little regard for consistency, setup, or explanation.
>all the villains are a joke, consistently outmatched by the protagonists in ways that feels unearned and unengaging. whenever the villan has the upper hand and can kill an important character he conveniently doesn't, until the hero conveniently gets away or worse yet the villan bruises the hero a bit before letting him go.
>the story overall is incoherent and has no point or central message it tells, half of the plot points appear towards the end haphazardly with little to no set up
>some of the character interactions are downright cancer inducing with the author clearly trying to establish a specific dynamic or emotional tone without earning it through proper development. worse yet no one instory acknowledges this so you're stuck reading shit like bakek treating dekek like utter garbage with deku saying shit like "haha that's my best pal <3" with everyone else saying that they're nice friends including the teachers not acknowledging or doing anything about it, the author wants you to believe they're rivals but they act like badly written mentally ill domestically abusive couple. the disconnect between what’s shown and what the story insists we feel is jarring, and it’s never meaningfully addressed.
>adding to the point above, it's not just dekuk and bakek even if they're the most egregious example because of their extensive screen time, it's most of the characters in the story with few exceptions.

>>280173294 (OP)
Aight

>>280173503
>Other than that you just had a crybaby mc who stopped being a crybaby only to return to being one after rediscovering the power of friendship.
>Ending was also halfassed, author didn't have the balls to kill the mc so they just castrate him.
very apt review minus the score

>>280174238
>But overall, I was disgusted by the relationship between Bakugou and Deku.
Anyone with a working brain would hate thier relationships because it's forced and incoherent
>The humor wasn't good, and the fights were kind of meh, average. But it was still good. Great art and really cute girls.
The story also tends to be tone deaf with the humour

>>280173294 (OP)
4/10. Deku was so fucking shit that it's unbelievable. The others were fine at best.

5/10. Starts out excellent and falls off a cliff. Protagonist cries all the time.

>>280173294 (OP)
it's okay. it definitely peaks before the halfway mark but I don't think the later parts were anywhere near as bad as some people made it out to be. the art was very good throughout. it had a lot of really cute girls

>>280173294 (OP)
I couldn't get past the first sports festival. It was just too boring.

>>280173294 (OP)
2/10 I have no idea how the fuck this ever caught on.

>>280192038
It's anime's version of capeshit. Initially, it was fine.
Somewhere during the set up of the last arc, the clock struck midnight. I gave 0 shits about shiggy, endeavor's family, etc.

Anyone who gives this more than 7/10 is completely brain-fried, 80-IQ YouTube reaction consumer. I gave it 6.5/10 being really generous and weighting the positives as heavily as possible.

>>280173294 (OP)
All Might vs AFO was the peak of the series, everything went downhill after that.

It's not very good but I think it will be culturally relevant unlike JJK.

>>280173294 (OP)
Abysmal pacing, it's insane that everything happens in their first year of school and makes the villains look like a bunch of chumps for losing to kids barely out of middle school. Not to mention the hesitance on Hori to write meaningful consequences for any of the cast since he doesn't want to mutilate children/ruin their futures. Instead we just get adult characters doing all the meaningful work of making proactive moves and tanking serious injuries/deaths. The lack of timeskips is even more egregious when you get to the epilogue and Hori shows he's perfectly capable of writing older versions of his characters. Would've been ten times better if Hori just used more timeskips and had the final war happen by the time Class 1A were pro heroes.

On another note, this is just personal opinion but I actually liked OFA as a power at first. It was basic super strength sure, but it had unique and thematic origins. Being nothing more but the physical strength of several humans stacked together was a good foil to all the superpower hoarding of All for One, especially when the MC wielding it was nothing more but a normal human himself. Then Seven Quirks bullshit happens and Deku turns into a pseudo-Nomu. Which in itself isn't even a bad thing, it's just bad because Hori does the blandest shit possible with it instead of anything actually creative.

6/10

>>280173294 (OP)
Hori draws the BEST legs and HAGS. He's entitled to write whatever fujoshit garbage story he wants. 12/10

>>280173294 (OP)
2/10
unoriginal capeshit that destroyed its premise within the first chapters
still better than reddit:zero and cringedex but even mars of destruction is better than this garbage

>>280193614
za cruller my FUARKING HERO

>>280193614
I really don't understand why there wasn't a time skip. Wouldn't it be a good business decision too? With new timeskip designs. The whole thing doesn't feel well thought out.