So what's this?
https://vxtwitter.com/nisioisin_anime/status/1940379938085019709
Also MTBB have started working on the last episodes of Off&Monster Season now that the BDs are out.
>>280175155 (OP)Probably announcing the next arcs to be adapted?
>>280175185Probably. No idea what the name-tag is supposed to represent. There is also the top-right snake and the bottom-left star/bird thing for Yotsugi.
>>280175155 (OP)This is today is it not because Japanese are a day ahead? We are going to be getting announcement today. Can't wait for the 10nobu licking scene.
>>280175360it's in like 20 hours from now
>>280175360Even then it says 6PM. And it's not even the 3rd yet in Japan.
>>280175360Nevermind I did the math and it'd 5 am tomorrow EST. Maybe PSTfags will be able to watch it happen, I suppose it will be nice to wake up to a nice announcement though.
Cool. I hope this isn't absolutely nothing.
>>280175456I hope, if there is a trailer, it has sexy scenes with these two as an appetizer.
>>280175537C-cheers to that
>>280175155 (OP)>MTBBDidn't the guy admit to not knowing Japanese? All he does is look through existing subs to pick the one that sounds best to him.
>>280175647No idea. All I know is that there are people that will only watch this with those subs. I personally watched it and found it good. Not 100% perfect but it reads well and doesn't overly localize.
>>280175708Disagreed, it's even worse than Commie at times.
>>280175708He literally credits Aniplex for the translation: https://nyaa.si/view/1843591
I understand he puts out decent releases but I really don't see why he's praised so much.
>>280175747I remember getting disappointed sometimes (like them translating Italian man as Casanova). What would you say is the best?
>>280175747His Yahari S2 used Commie's subs: https://nyaa.si/view/1289057
>>280175773The first post has a comparison for his edits so I guess people like that.
>>280175792For the latest season, honestly the CR subs are probably the best ones right now. For Bake, the updated ANE subs were alright. Coalgirls for the rest, though I have a lot of problems with them too.
Unfortunately, there really is no release I can recommend without any asterisks for Monogatari. Your best bet is learning Japanese (I did).
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>>280175456Likewise, it feels like it will be. Also kek at your image
>>280175823I quickly skimmed the episode. Almost all of the changes are minor nitpickings that don't affect the meaning of the translation at all, and there are a few minor places where the MTBB script is less literal than then official subs (and therefore less accurate, although not necessarily in a way that impairs the meaning of the dialogue).
>>280176116I was doing that too until I got a phonecall. Ultimately I really don't know. Maybe they are overrated. I didn't find them terrible but I cant say I understand people postponing their viewing of something until their release.
>>280175983Is this the guy who draws Hachicutie in a bunch of different poses that often end up exposing her panties?
Just so you know, MTBB is praised for his encoding not for translation. He is not a translator he tend to pick the most popular subs available for his releases and fix some minor issues while encoding but people are using MTBB releases for the quality of the video nothing else
>>280176187So we can expect a release of BD episodes 1-10?
>>280176182This line for instance (red is official subs, green is edits) is indicative. Tsukihi says "kabe" which literally means "wall", but MTBB's translator decides to soften it to passing "between dimensions" because he arbitrarily thinks it sounds better which it doesn't. It doesn't harm the meaning of the line but it also does not directly translate the words that the character has said.
I dont expect a new season solely because the name card shows doll and snake's symbols whose arcs are already done (unless they really love those two and moved forward their next arcs)
It's probably some merch or restaurant collab shit
>>280176186I hope, but I don’t know
>>280176389You might be right actually. Also love that outfit, especially the pink side ruffles, it weirdly works.
>>280176382My guess is that it was done just to make it faster to read through. There are worse examples than this for sure.
>>280176440>it was done just to make it faster to read throughThat's definitely not something I want to hear that a translator is doing because it makes me suspicious of everything else. I think the issue with subtitling specifically is that the original dialogue is always present, so you have to respect that more than if you were translating blocks of text.
>>280176489That's one of the most tame examples too. Mtbb has a habit of localizing jokes to the point where they don't really make sense in context, or just completely dropping them if he can't think of anything to replace them with. A recent example is the "Araragi-hentai" joke in Mustard.
>>280176489I'm not disagreeing but in sections where people say a lot of things fast there can be big differences between languages as far as words spoken goes. Sure you can time a big block of text to appear and disappear as the character switches a sentence but readability is important. It's just compromises all over the place really. Who does it best is who people should choose.
>>280176584Maybe I'm biased because I can read quickly. I personally prioritise literal accuracy over everything else, and frankly I'm surprised other people don't given that they went to the trouble to watch cartoons in a language they don't understand.
>>280176616I'm the same way. But I will find myself annoyed if a sentence is spaced out weirdly between spoken lines, or in the rare cases where I will actually have to rewind because a previous textblock was poorly phrased.
All I'm saying is that there is some nuance. I wish people had better standards.
>>280176389I don't know what else it'd be. If it wasn't something new, I suppose they may announce a rerun for Japanese tv. But I both doubt they'd make such a big deal and that the Japanese would even do something like that because anime reruns aren't that common. Nadeko and Yotsugi are fairly common in Off and Monster Season. Shaft may be trying to turn them into the protagonists for this part. They also could have an announcement where the name tag turns into a different themed name tag to hype for the next cour.
>>280175155 (OP)Maybe they're releasing real size Yotsugi dolls (In development for 99 years).
>>280176858I can see her umm, underwear, through those shorts...
>>280176995Every man around it would be filled with the sudden desire to mount.
>>280175155 (OP)This would be a good time for nisio to also release tsugi...please
I thought SHAFT had a lot on their plate as is.
>>280176389It could be a special episode for mayoi snake or yotsugi shadow? The name card makes it job related and these stories are about nadeko and yotsugi doing their jobs. Though I have my doubts about adapting mayoi snake early, yotsugi shadow could work though
>>280177877They have a second studio now. We are moving towards a world where we won't have to go more than a month without something Shaft.
>>280177877Shaft always had a lot on their plate. I remember the jokes on szs about them being ready to drop dead as bake was going out at the same time. Too bad we're never getting that quality back, it's my favorite studio but their quality has dropped hard in later years.
>>280178081I just hope the quality is not compromised.
>>280177901It would be very nice if we get a sexy OVA type thing. Even if they haven't done it before, there is always time for first tries. Nisio would of course write it too.
>>280178263I don't think it will negatively affect quality. Most rushing only does this because of cheap outsourcing, but this other studio is skilled and native. I'm pretty sure Ninkoro was made by the second studio completely, and it was super high quality and felt very Shaftlike. Virgin Punk looks nice quality and I even heard it has nudity (including nipples surprisingly enough). Lastly, that new Madoka movie will probably be nice and artistic. The future of Shaft looks really bright. If anything, there work might get even higher quality.
>>280178229Eh, seems to me more hit or miss rather than actual drop in quality. They clearly have projects they work harder on than others, but the good ones are still good.
There should be a Monogatari every year.
>>280178736Maybe even two. Just let Nisio live at the Shaft building.
>>280178534Off & Monster felt very lackluster by every metric compared to it's predecessors, don't care about their other current works. I'll check the bds when they're out but I doubt they added that much.
>>280178736Hahaa...I still haven't watched the commentaries, read the novels or the short stories. But please yes more content.
I loved how high quality Off and Monster Season was. Definitely a great way for Shaft to make a comeback. I have high faith for what they'll announce next.
>>280178841I think Tsukihi Undo and Nadeko Draw were great. Hell even Acerola Bon Appétit was nice. I think Shinobu Mustard was the obvious outlier.
>>280178937>Acerola Bon AppétitI really liked this it was great. I loved the music, aesthetic, and also seeing Suicide Master's butt. It carried the feeling of Kizu very well too.
>>280178937Only Tsukihi Undo had a little bit of SHAFT's flavor. The others felt like someone was trying to lazily copy the studio's earlier works, I got the same feeling from the terrible bishounen tanteidan adaptation.
>>280179091Nta but you should watch Ninkoro. Many say it is like Shaft's older stuff.
>>280179091I'll agree that Undo was the best for me too. But the rest didn't feel far off.
>>280179091Bishounen Tanteidan was great too
>>280179091Can you elaborate? Genuinely curious since my shaft watchlist isn't big.
>>280180015There is no elaboration anon, just watch more Shaft anime.
I hope it's Nadeko related. I'm experiencing Nadeko withdrawal symptoms. Listening to caramel ribbon 5 times a day isn't doing it anymore.
>>280180294I really hope they do the naked Nadeko island story early. It will be so great and create a decades worth of fap material at least.
>>280179091I could understand feeling like SHAFT's newer shows aren't as creative as their anime in the 2000s, but I don't understand how you think Off and Monster season or Bishounen Tanteidan feel more like a lazy copy than the previous Monogatari seasons. I'd say it's more creative than most Monogatari entries if anything.
I hate how SHAFT's otaku focused fanservice has resulted in 90% of current fans being just horny retards that understand nothing about the writing and only like it for the pretty colors and eroticism.
>>280180174I mean it's gonna be a slow process. I don't watch much anymore.
>>280180493I personally only really watch an episode of anime a day at most if at all. Watching Monogatari over the course of three months was a pretty fun experience though.
>>280180555I'm slowly going through the JA novels without knowing any Japanese sentence sentence with the help of Google Translate, AI and Kanji recognition sites. It's torture but I like it. All this because I wanted to understand Hanamonogatari a bit better.
>>280180675By the time you finish with it, you will probably be a lot better at Japanese too. So it isn't like it is completely unproductive.
>>280178937For what it's worth, Acerola Bon Appetit is a case where a LOT got lost in the transition to anime. It's legitimately one of my favorite stories in the novels, but the anime adaption was whatever.
>>280175708>>280175773Motbob is liked because of his typesetting
>>280178810Nisio should run SHAFT
>>280179091>Only Tsukihi Undo had a little bit of SHAFT's flavor. The others felt like someone was trying to lazily copy the studio's earlier works, I got the same feeling from the terrible bishounen tanteidan adaptation.trying a bit too hard with your hot take, anon
>>280181441I want to breed this bratty imouto
>>280175155 (OP)Sodachibros we won.
>>280180839That will take a while but it's great to know. I heard something about Hana being similar and since it was one of those arcs I didn't instinctively understood it prompted me to dive head first.
>>280182028Is she low or high maintenance?
>>280182116Low. And clingy because she's constantly scared you'll dump her.
>>280182224Perfect. Soft cuddles with me reassuring her I'd never dump her. I won't
I want to watch Sodachi take a dump. I bet she takes off all her clothes before sitting on the toilet too.
>>280180294There is a snake in the top right, which probably means that Nadeko is going to be involved. That is to expected since every Monster Season books other then Shinobumonogatari ends with a short Nadeko storyline.
>>280183048I want to give her a bump while grasping on those two humps
>>280183142Nisio doling out Nadeko's lewd and supple body to help people wade through his detective season.
Sodachi Fiasco is going to happen, right anon? I mean, there is no way they would skip it again right?
>>280183638It's getting the Kizu treatment
>>280183774*grabs your throat*
Back the fuck off!?
>>280183774Just steal a clone while she's browsing around
>>280183638>implying we're getting a courit'll be a cafe
>>280183331I really wouldn't be surprised if they adapt the entire Nadeko subplot right at the beginning of the new season, just to get it out of the way. It has nothing to do with anything, anyway.
>>280183904But it got pinned...
>>280176229Those are already up, check his torrents. They are meant more as a v0 so the normal torrent name wasn't used.
>>280178736I hope so, Monogatari fans are starving for more content. Currently there are only 115 anime episodes, 3 theatrical movies, 193 manga chapters, 29 novels, 2 short story collections, and 121 commentary tracks. Please Shaft, we need more.
>>280184061Oh, yeah I didn't search for those names. Didn't even know they did the whole v0 thing. Good to know.
>>280184131I find your mocking tone very inappropriate
>>280184226Aren't pinned twitter comments supposed to be important? I apologize I'm not terribly familiar with the culture over there.
>>280184131Yeah, we do need more. You see how much stuff something like One Piece has?
>>280183904The gold and purple logo is new so it will definitely be a new season. If it was an event related to the previous season then they would use the old logo like they usually do.
>>280184310Events also get pinned sometimes if it's a collaboration with a different IP or a well known artist doing a exhibition.
>>280184385I see. Well I hope it's something good. We will learn soon enough.
>>280184131>Please Shaft, we need more.Yup yup yup yup yuppers!
>>280184909We need to see Hachikuji's naked butt before they are allowed to end this series. We did get pretty close in that one scene of her in an egg in Owari.
>>280175155 (OP)Thank god, Shaft should stick to Monogatari and Madoka because they lost their magic and their new anime are mediocre at best
>>280184909>Snail rakugo 16How many images do you have from just the rakugo scene?
>>280186042Japanese architecture is so beautiful
>>280185628Ninkoro was good. You should give it a chance.
>>280186487I watched it, 1 character can't carry the whole show
>>280183733It's going to be great. Oishi have been working on the first part of his six movies long adaption of Sodachi Fiasco for a while now.
>>280180839>It's legitimately one of my favorite stories in the novelsIt's one of the most boring and formulaic stories Nisio ever written. I never expected anyone to like it.
>>280186684Other than Marin, Satoko and Konoha are pretty compelling too. So it is 3 characters carrying a show.
>>280184131I mean, yeah. It could be like One Piece. But good.
>>280187299Like nearly every other story in Monogatari, the plot isn't what matters. It was carried entirely by Deathtopia's weird narration style, which the anime almost completely cut out. She's a ridiculously fun character in the novel, but she's bland as hell in the anime.
>>280187873Do the english LNs capture it?
>>280187879I kind of made that post to bait someone into posting it. I didn't get the screencap, but desire to have it.
>>280175155 (OP)>Yotsugi and Nadeko iconsIt's going to be a tv special covering all of the Nadeko plots from Monster Season.
>>280187324>forgetting best girl
>>280188041Last I heard, that book wasn't even officially released in English.
>>280188232He said Satoko already
>>280184131The manga is dogshit headcanon don't count it just to inflate the numbers.
>>280186487What's the best release?
>>280175155 (OP)>e last episodes of Off&Monster SeasonI KEPT ASKING, I KNEW THE SEASON FELT UNFINISHED, GOD FUCKING DAMN IT NOBODY EVER ANSWERED ME WHY
>>280188352I believe it has been fan translated. I'm guessing you were speaking about the Japanese release then. Makes me wonder.
>>280188430Karen gets injured in Karen Ogre and 10nobu helps by licking. I think she may even joke about her brother during the ordeal.
>>280189009anon, there are two more cours coming? just check the fucking novels
>>280189009Wait what. Where did you stop watching it?
>>280189142ep 14. I know the "arc" ends but there's definitely more to be told.
>>280189125I wonder how many people randomly hate something because they believe it to be the ending for whatever reason. With Monogatari, it should always be assumed that it is still ongoing as this is the neverending series.
Any news when will Aniplex of America will release the Off/Monster BD Box?
>>280189234There are other stories yeah.
>>280188900It's not a headcanon, it's a spin on the original story that takes it in a bit of a different direction. That's not that unusual for a manga adaption.
>>280175155 (OP)July 3th is also the day that the Bakemonogatari anime first aired 16 years ago.
>>280191477This is going to be awesome
How many seasons can they still make?
>>280191913Images like this are the essence of based
Someday I want to have a daughter and dress her like Shinobu
It's a crime that the manga didn't adapt the most lolicious arc with Onimonogatari.
Doesn't help that the manga needed more Hachikuji molesting. Oh Great is a sag hag lover.
>>280191913Off the top of my head 30-40 episodes does not seem impossible with current material.
>>280192192By the time they finish it, there will be enough material for 30-40 more.
>>280191913Each Monogatari book have taken 4 to 6 episodes adapt. Even if you assume that every adaption from now on is only 4 episodes it would still take 24 episodes to adapt the rest of the OMS books, which would probably be two more seasons.
>>280192254Not at Nisio's current writing speed. By the time SHAFT is done with Off & Monster there is only going to be two books left before the anime adaption have finally caught up to the novels.
>>280192680He always could speed up at some point. If Shaft were to catch up, I'm sure they'd find some other way to keep making Monogatari too (such as adapting the short stories or having Nisio write stuff for originals).
>>280192821>such as adapting the short storiesStill holding on to hope for a Mijikanamonogatari adaption.
The world needs to see dentist Araragi give his sitster dental care.
>>280191988And would you be fine with everyone masturbating to your daughter?
>>280193347It depends on if they have spastic ahoges
I hope we get more Yotsugi content
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>>280175155 (OP)Sweet. More food for my heart and dick
Bump, stay alive until 3 more hours
>>280184131>Please Shaft, we need more.This but completely unironically.
Shaft has been on a gigantic decline since zoku ended. Assault lily, magia record and rwby were absolute dogshit.
It's a far cry from their glory days of 2000s with ef, szs, hidamari, paniponi etc... or their golden era of 2009-2011 with bake and madoka.
But last year they proven they still got it, off season became my AOTY with just the first fucking episode which is still a pure masterpiece and a top5 all time gatari ep.
Shaft got the fucking memo stop fucking around and keep milking the shit they know how to make good and that's why we're getting more off&monsters and Madoka movie4.
Hope they get their ass for Sangatsu s3 as well.
https://x.com/nisioisin_anime/status/1940697024191688905
https://youtu.be/8P2QF7ReJQE
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>>280200229>>280200345looks like:
>shinomonogatari>amarimonogatari>yoimonogatari>karen ogre (orokamonogatari)>nadeko around (included in shinomonogatari)
Still no Kanbaru or Sodachi I guess
https://x.com/NISIOISIN_info/status/1940697701202776131
Also Tsugimonogatari comes out in October
>>280200356pv for the first part didn't include shinobu, though, whose stories took up more than half of it. karen ogre will probably be 1 episode, and the rest will somehow be condensed into ~15. either some of the books mentioned will only be partially adapted, or they are planning on speeding through the talk-no-jutsu. with a zoomer girl in charge, the latter is more likely.
>>280200356Karen Ogre is in Waza, not Oroka.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=galRbwiSwVM
What the fuck is this?
>>280200526OUR protagonists
Is this the prettiest Shinobu figure they ve released yet? Like, its so pretty
>>280200229AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH CUNNYKINO IS BACK ON THE MENUU
What great news to go to bed on. I'll have some lucid dreams of my adorable bat. That outfit is fucking cute.
where is the cat
is she alright
>>280200356>>280176858Muahahaha I was right!
Smartest in the room!
>>280200427Hello? Based department?
How does this image make you feel?
>>280201141A Kimochii kind of feeling
Please tell me this new season isn’t going to focus on Shinobu. Every arc that revolves around her puts me to sleep.
She has only one short story from Monster season left.
>>280200708I don't think that "How much" engrish in the rap video was random but who knows...
Yotsugi looks really hot in the new poster
>>280200526i dont know, but it's cute
>>280201379She's in, trust.
>>280200229all was good until I saw Karen
>>280200356Are any of them as good as nademonogatari or are they more like Shinobu mustard?
They are definitely going to adapt together the Nadeko chapters from the monster season (Yoi, Amari, Ougi and Shinomonogatari) as one big Nadeko arc because she is the most popular character.
>>280200229Finally some Karen
>>280200526I love bloomer Nadeko DJ and no pants Yotsugi.
>>280201506I can't wait to see her tight ass
Monogatari is just a show about little girls now. Where are the true waifus? I'm joking but they are splitting the age groups for O&M lol
>>280201542To be fair, most of Monogatari is focused on the little girls if you think about it. I definitely could see what you are saying though. They are probably saving up Hanekawa and Sodachi stuff to do alongside that wedding story to try to play up some "suitresses of Araragi" thing at the end. Hitagi, Sodachi, and Hanekawa are all the ones who think they have to fight over him for some reason.
>>280200427We are so fucking back
>>280201598Maybe, they are definitely saving the former high schoolers for last, even Suruga.
>>280200526dj nadeko has become canon...
>>280200340well fuck me they actually DO love snek and doll that much. didn't expect them to push Musubi but I guess that can be done very last
still sad about sodachi fiasco getting skipped again
>>280200526DJ Nadeko became a running joke in the commentary tracks after Oshino made fun of her for rapping. They have done some other DJ Nadeko ads before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4DY_R9YDZY
>>280200427What do the bandaids represent? Also, the "birth story written as a hobby" combined with the tsugi really makes me wonder if it is going to be about Yotsugi's creation after all. Would be right for a release around Halloween too. Such a story could also give Shaft something new to turn into a movie.
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Oikura all but confirmed! (TT)
>>280200356>karen orgy>shimapanmonogatari
>>280201661>Holy copeOh come on. Why would they mention Sodachi if there is no Fiasco?
>>280201673On the Abema streaming service they used to have different characters on each thumbnail for the different seasons, but after OMS aired they have turned all of them into pictures of either snake or doll, except Nekomonogatari since they don't appear in that at all.
>>280201780>If Monogatari stories had honest names
>>280200345That new Shinobu outfit has already grown on me. I bet we'll get a lot of thigh and butt teasing shots with it.
I feel sorry for crab and catfags.
>>280201864They are the crescendo
>>280201792We are getting Fiasco but not this season, it will be in the next with the Hitagi and Cat arcs.
>>280201864we crabGODS are content eating scraps like her appearance in shinobu mustard
>>280201864It will end with an anime original deviation. In it, the loli trio will plot and succeed in making Crab and Cat resign to having sex with each other.
Karen ogre, amari and yoi. Probably just 12 episodes then
>>280201959Sounds good to me
>>280202018You will after her new story comes out
>>280201959Since Nadeko is featured so prominently they will probably adapt all of her stories in this cour. Karen Ogre might be just one long episode like Tsukihi Undo.
>>280202040It would be great if it was one long episode, especially since it would mean it would be higher quality. I want to see the Shinobu variants again.
Nadeko stories are pretty short, each one wouldn't take more than one episode same as Karen Ogre so I believe they'll be their main priority.
I just hope they don't half-ass the Araragi arcs of Yoi and Amari like they did with Shinobu mustard.
>>280202040Shino will definitely not get adapted this cour
>>280201792If we had the lyrics of the song and could analyse them, then making a theory about sodachi fiasco would be easier.
>no math
fuck that shit
STOP BLUEBALLING ME
we'll get a second KV in a month with math and her school friend. My father works at shaft, screencap this
>>280202692>her school friendbut she has no school friends
Will it release late 25 or early 26 though
>>280202018Fuck you, doll is my wife and is better than all gataris.
>>280201864I have no sympathy for crabfags, literally just cucks and redditors.
I do feel pity for catfags, especially because hanekawa is hot as fuck in Kizu and she is one of the better written character in the story.
However she takes so much space since the beginning it's fair she fucks off a little to let other characters shine, prominent in Bake, overly important in kizu, appears in nise, dedicated arc with kuro, climatic 3rd arc starting 2nd season, present in Koi, secondary for sodachi arcs, briefly there in zoku in black form.
The only arcs she isnt in, kabuki, hana, oni, otori, mail, all of owari s2 are arcs where barely anyone but the concerned girls + shinobu are present. Kabuki, oni and mail take place during shiro anyway and hana is a fucking epilogue, the only relevant arc she could have been more present is ougi dark.
Catfags got their time, the fact she is in Kizu alone is enough for them to never have the right to complain, same for batfags.
I don't get why crabbers should be felt sorry from as they should be content wirh anything they get because their girl won the bowl.
>>280202018but she's cute
>>280203018our goddess Hanekawa even has her own series
how can other girls even compete?
Huh, so Sodachi Fiasco when?
>>280201299it was "very much" not "how much"
>>280203500That seems incredibly unlikely. They both wouldn't announce it this early, nor would they create such a big gap in what is supposed to be continuous.
>>280203071I like how Yotsugi has two modes. Thighs out and thighs hidden. It makes it all the sexier when you see her fat plump thighs after her dress kicks up a bit too much.
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another pedonigga season, sodachi fiasco never, this world is truly hell.
>>280202435I mean the lyrics are there for the first (Mayoi) part. Even if they rap some of them:
Nadeko da yo!
Yotsugi da ze-to
再び始まるオフ&モンスター
瞬き閉じられぬ 魅せてよお前様
急!?
がば!?
Mayoi!?
失礼
永遠の小学五年生
延々と角方誤認し
え~ん
eeeeeeeeen
泣く子導く身ひずみだってCOME WITH ME
The second part with the "How much" and "Very much" I'm not good at understanding
>>280203821Another season for every man on the planet
PDMSR
>>280203862Sounds like the plot for yoimonogatari
>>280203870pedoniggas ≠ every man. real niggas want crab, real niggas want cat, real niggas want math. Instead, we get another season for pedoniggas
>>280203987>real niggas want mathSodachi has been created only for the biggest autists and schizophrenic individuals. She is a seething femcel hating everybody on earth and if she existed in real life, regardless of rrrg or not she'd hate you.
>>280204023mirror math is the gf possible however
>>280204147The only one that even came close to rivaling Kanbaru for me. Which is amazing seeing how it's Math...
>>280203987Sodachi and Hitagi are made with some loli appeal too. Sodachi with her permanent malnourished middle schooler body more so but Hitagi is also very thin and young looking. It is pretty much implied that Araragi's two types are little girls and fat boobs like your average lolicon.
>>280204023>hating everybody on earthshe's literally me
>>280204257This can't be a comment made in good faith you have to be joking, being thin with small tits isn't the same as being a child or childlike. Also, sodachi fiasco takes place when they're in college, and we've already seen college sodachi and hitagi and there is nothing childlike about them, please do not speak on this topic again.
>>280204023>She is a seething femcel hating everybody on earth She makes amends and frees herself from hate at the end of sodachi lost, so whats your point. And I, for one, think we would get along in real life.
>>280201864CrabKINGS rest easy knowing they have won for all eternity
>>280204369Just admit that you are a diddygatari fan
>>280204449I fuck with monogatari, but I'm not a pedonigga, simple as.
>>280204369>sodachi fiasco takes place when they're in collegenow it doesn't
it takes place directly after Sodachi arca from Owari
>>280204480damn does it, its been awhile since I've read it but I swear it took place like a year after. Anyways even if I'm like a year off, my other point still stands
She makes me so mad and horny at the same time
>>280204808Dekkai loli, Deckamasta!
>>280204834Bratnobu stop doing that!
>>280203870is this some new dogwhistle or just your captcha?
>>280205003It is my captcha and it looked relevant so I typed it. I'm starting to wonder if the captcha pulls words from the actual threads to make codes now.
Snail legs are a delicacy where I'm from
>>280205207I forgot how blatant Shaft is lol
>>280204847I want Karen to cartwheel around and accidentally crash her big feet and butt into me.
>>280205207Nice and smooth and no coloring problems. Good shit Carrot. I should really download a workflow and the extra modules for wan...
>>280205562Thanks. I used Hailuo and just did some cropping and panning for dynamism
>>280203862It is Nadeko!
Along with Yotsugi!
Begins anew Off and Monster,
In a blink, eyes shut, you hava lock eyes, Master
"Slow and steady wins the pace?"
Oh excuse me~
It's the eternal fifth grader!
Endless slip ups all direction
Eh—eh, a child cry steeped in a twist, come with me
A push for Zeroing, now How much?
Love's lashing uncountable, precocious feelings with kissies inversely proportioned
To be hated, mocked, a pressed heart still breaking
A few cull the shame, a perfect pitch ideal
We likened matches
The final Anime Monogatari series: Off and Monster Season
Stay tuned!
>A push for Zeroing, now How much?Math girl is definitely in
>>280200229WE CANNOT STOP FUCKING WINNING
>>280205688反比例
Also a graph on the screen.
I want to believe.
>>280202428>I just hope they don't half-ass the Araragi arcs of Yoi and Amari like they did with Shinobu mustard.They gave it six whole episodes. I can't imagine that the adaption removed a lot.
>>280202775I hope its late 25, I don't wanna wait every 2 years for monogatari.
I wonder if "Monogatari Series Off & Monster Season (new episodes)" is the official name they are going to use. It would be funny if they actually use such a direct name.
This is the only part I could catch:
こませな気持ちチュー しちゃ反比例
If you kiss me, my feelings are inversely proportional
I can only think of Sodachi but who knows.
Can anyone give me an actual source that it's multiple episodes?
There's barely any information on it and every article I find talks about a single episode.
EOP so I can't double check the translations.
>>280206277Knowing Japanese make no difference. SHAFT have only announced that they are making new episode(s) and nothing more. But the promo art shows references to several arcs so it has to be more then one episode.
>>280206277Idk, do Japs differentiate between singular and plural if they say Shin episodo in production?
It just makes sense for it to be an announcement of O&M season part 2
>>280200345>NEW NADEKO OP>NEW YOTSUGI OP>NEW KAREN OP>NEW MAYOI OPMy ears are very happy about this.
It was dissapointing when half of the arcs in the previous season was Shinobu arcs and we only got instrumental OPs for them
>>280206210it's just episode 15 and so on of "Monogatari Series Off & Monster Season". it's like how for example I think the second season of 3-gatsu no lion wasn't called "3-gatsu no Lion Season 2" or anything like that, it was just episodes 23-44 of "3-gatsu no Lion" despite the break.
>>280206277Why the hell would it be a single episode?
>otonadeko
>kaminadeko
>imanadeko
>sakanadeko
>kobinadeko
Who are these?
>>280201724Even in the original novel version of Nadeko Draw, Yotsugi suggests DJ Nadeko as one of the copies. Then Nadeko gets embarrassed and says the commentary tracks aren't canon.
>>280206676>otonadekosex
>kaminadekosex
>imanadekonot sex
>sakanadekolittle sex
>kobinadekoA LOT of sex
>>280207103I was serious, plz remind me
>>280206554That's what I am trying to figure out.
>>280207185>otonadekoBake Nadeko, the girl with the orange hat who sings renai circulation.
>kobinadekoNise Nadeko, the seductive slutty JC wearing no panties and invite high schooler to her room.
>sakanadekoOtori Nadeko, the angry girl who crashed out because she had enough of her classmates being retarded normalfags.
>kaminadekoKoi Nadeko, the girl who seethed so much she couldn't get her childhood crush she became a snake god, she wears even less panties and seduces old grumpy men instead.
>imanadekoNade Nadeko, after some grumpy old man convinced her to stop seething this girl is now a NEET drawing shoujo manga in her room and talks with her living lesbian doll shikigami friend.
>>280207441So what's the play on words for the first 3?
>>280207502>otonacalm, quiet, peaceful
>kobiflirt, flattery, kobiru is "to flirt, to fawn on"
>sakareverse, inverted, she's the opposite of her usual self
>>280200229I'm glad that Karen Ogre is confirmed. I was afraid that they were going to skip the remaining arcs from Orokamonogatari and Wazamonogatari.
>>280205965Too bad AI can't be used for shit because if this was a clip file I could do a bit a shadow cleanup and tweak some some lines to make it 10 times better.
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>>280207562I think SakaNadeko comes from 逆らう (to defy)
>>280202435>Shino will definitely not get adapted this courWhat makes you say that? It would make complete sense.
Alright I give up, the second part is hard.
ごはさん願えば ハウ・マッチ (If you ask for rice, how much?)[ごは-さん no idea if that's what she's saying by breaking up the words to fit the bit]
お前の寝ち数値じゃ測れね (Your sleep it can't be measured by numbers) [The sleep/bed [寝] part is not heard well, might be something else]
こませな気持ちチュー しちゃ反比例 (If you kiss me, my feelings are inversely proportional) [This had the lyrics in the backround]
嫌われて笑われてガラスハート割れても (Even if I'm hated, laughed at, and my glass heart breaks)
少数恥を淘汰絶好も絶好調 (Eliminating the few embarrassing elements is a great success.)
我々 ベリ・マッチ (We are very much) [wordplay on match as in we match?]
>>280207873I did that manually with some other stuff I did by just extracting the frames, drawing over them and turning it back into a video. I might do that again in the future if I gen a good one.
>>280208411based on other's anon translation, ごはさん is probably 御破算. Something about clearing an abacus, clearing to zero. Definitely a lot of math reference.
>>280208888Ohh, yeah that'd make sense too.
Something tells me we won't get Sodachi no matter the references to be honest. I feel like the season will be on the smaller side and the characters shown can fill up 12 episodes.
>>280208411>お前の寝ち数値This part is お前の家賃 I think
>>280209021I can definitely hear it. Is that Sodachi again?
It would be cool if Shaft added random loomer Nadekos walking around in the background. Either for arcs that take place around the same time or for loomers that potentially got away.
>>280209002>Something tells me we won't get Sodachi no matter the references to be honest. IIt would be very weird for SHAFT to release a promo for this cour full of Sodachi references only for her not to show up. Why would they do that?
>>280209395Does a Gatari reflect her fans?
>>280209395Build up more suffering
I much prefer mirror Oikura cheeks
I hope that they re-release the Karen Ogre game to advertise the anime adaption:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doDx45RTaME
How does this image make you feel?
>>280210075https://litter.catbox.moe/iog4ak3c2z7fzile.jpg
How about this
>>280209918Nisio can make this but he could never make the Shinobu skirt lifting game real?
>>280209960I want to play around those thighs like a child on a jungle gym
>>280210135I'm not clicking that.
So it's a single episode and not a new season?
>>280210638It's either several episodes or a 5 hour long episode. My guess is on the former.
Anyone else get major sexy vibes from the teasers?
>>280209395Amarimonogatari is about Sodachi. She doesn't actually appear in it, but it's about her.
the real truth is that the monogatari anime will always be 10+ seasons behind the novels
>>280211289That's excessive. The numbers don't add up.
>>280211336i wouldn't trust this menhera with numbers for 2 seconds
Anyone have a picture of nude Sodachi from her OP?
>>280211394How about 1/30th of a minute?
I'm looking forward to all of the Off season stories being adapted so that I can insist to everyone that they should watch all of them in novel order before watching monster season.
I'm happier about the new novel announcement instead
>>280211584>panty line shadow through pajamaDiabolical levels of commitment to the art of depicting sexy teens.
>>280211775I wonder if Shaft has a special closet full of references to help their artists out.
>>280210638Japanese doesn't have plural form the same way English does. 新エピソード could mean either just one or several new episodes. It's obviously several episodes though since the key visual shows characters from multiple different arcs
>>280211775shaft are the masters
>>280204431>frees herself from hate at the end of sodachi lostRead Sodachi Fiasco lol
>>280211758I wonder if it will acually be about Yotsugi's birth finally. The title and announcement tweet seem to imply so, but knowing Nisio I wouldn't be surprised if it's something completely different
>>280208411>少数恥を淘汰This part is 少数派上等だ which is definitely referencing Sodachi Fiasco
>>280213019god damn
that's super interesting
>>280212288I feel like the emojis further imply it. Bandaids representing her being repaired and the burning heart like her life being reignited. I said it before and will say it again, depending on how this goes, it could make for a good movie adaptation for Shaft too. The series is getting more organized and it will be exciting to see what comes next.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=galRbwiSwVM
Why is this doll such a hoodlum?
>>280213074Yeah you're completely correct. You guys should do a translation with the meaning.
>>280213148what snake pussy does to a mf
I hope that it's a two cour. If they only do 12 episodes at a time OMS is not going to be done before 2029.
>>280213556All of OMS done by 2029 doesn't sound too bad.
Family season is just 1 book so far with another one coming soon.
>>280200356>Nadeko AroundI still think Nisio wrote that partly as a challenge to Shinbo and SHAFT and partly as a result of watching Castaway far too many times.
Nice to see SHAFT answering the challenge.
>>280213148Why are these whores not wearing pants?
>>280213801I feel like if Monogatari goes on forever, we will eventually live to see a Shinobu sex scene.
>>280200356Isn't it possible that it's just Yoimonogatari and Amarimonogatari? Doesn't all the characters in the KV appear in those?
>>280187873Also you're supposed to think she's a man the whole time until the very last sentence of the book, which adds an interesting kind of gothic sexual undertone to the descriptions of Acerola.
>>280214324Nta but Karen in the special outfit makes Karen Ogre very likely
>>280214324possible and very likely, yes. Shino will probably be it's own season, and then Musubi will be its own season after that
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>>280207562>>280208134actually sakanadeko stands for sakana deko
that's because her pussy smells like fish
>>280214527Impossible. Since she doesn't know how to swim.
>>280214324Does Shinobu and Hachikuji appear in Amarimonogatari? If so, maybe it's just that one.
>>280213801Spoiler me, what happens in Nadeko Around?
>>280214678Nta and not read it but I heard Nadeko spends most of it nude on an island. Should be very fun.
>>280214678Nadeko gets passed around
>>280213556>first + second season took 5 years>second + final season took 5 years>off + monster season will probably take 5 years.2029 makes sense.
>>280214797It really shouldn't be that bad if they give us stuff every year or so. It taking until 29 basically guarantees us Monogatari for the rest of the decade. Maybe Nisio will write quicker during that time too so the cycle can quickly begin again.
My guess is Karen Ogre (1 episode) Mayoi Snail (5 episodes) Mayoi Snake (1 episode) Yotsugi Buddy (5 episodes) and Yotsugi Shadow (1 episode) for a total of 13 episodes. The strange thing is that the DJ Nadeko video seems to reference Sodachi Fiasco, even though Sodachi is absent from the key visual. Maybe it will be like Hanamonogatarti and they'll release it separately later?
>>280200427Young Kaiki trying to impress Tooe Gaen sounds like an entertaining idea. I hope that younger Izuko Gaen is a shy nerdy girl that is constantly belittled by her sister.
>>280215570I could see Math getting something separate that shows in a weird way too. Not only does Shaft like trying out new and/or unique stuff, but it can also build hype to make a little special event out of something.
>>280215649Kiss it and apologize one?
>>280215570anon, shinobu and deathtopia were also absent in the first KV of the first cour. The first KV always has a bunch of character even minor ones to attract attention from the entire fanbase no matter who your favorite character is. the second pv focuses on a specific story and in this case it will be fiasco. that KV will probably drop in a month or two
>>280201535They will censor it.
>>280213801>>280214782They don't have the balls to do it without heavy censorship now. Not even bare asses are allowed anymore.
>>280216131I highly doubt it. They've shown butts before.
>>280216242Last cour has zero censorship and this new one already looks even lewder. There is no reason to believe they'd censor it.
>>280215599>Tooe GaenI don't think I can handle a young Tooe.
If Shaft went back and redid arcs, are there any you'd like to see lengthened? Anything new you'd like to see added to them? I personally would like to see a longer Kabuki.
>>280216251Yes, they did it before the Reiwa era started. It's different times now and Nisio acknowledges it.
>>280216279They pussied out with the naked Acerola scene and the gore.
>>280216279I dunno, nudity without any special intention or focus doesn't really sound erotic to me.
>>280216399>I personally would like to see a longer Kabuki.Same. It's a crime that the longest Second Season novel only got 4 episodes. SS had three recap episodes as well, so I wish that they had cut one of those and used the timeslot for a fifth Kabuki episode.
>>280216447It also seems like they're no longer allowed to draw breast shadows on the schoolgirl uniform anymore like they used to if you compare them with previous seasons.
>>280216512It is Shaft, you know they'll find a way to add special intention and focus even if it is plain otherwise. A lot of the lewd scenes in Monogatari have nudity more as a backdrop but Shaft manages to turn into something highly artistic.
>>280216698They didn't with Acerola.
>>280216279look, monogatari had dozens of fanservice shots like this
>>280211584 pre-off season. But the last cour didn't have any shots like this, this kind of unnecessary fanservice. Even for nademonogatari they only did the bare minimum to properly adapt the arc. I also doubt we will get any shots like this again. the only thing where I would see that they gave us a treat were the nadeko pool cards
Post cool ideas for the (basically guaranteed) Yotsugi origin story.
>>280216871It could be argued that ninkoro had those kind of shots, no?
>>280216933Don't interact with him there is no way to win with these types.
>>280211584This scene was great, can't believe how lewd it is with just pajamas. Would like to see AI anon do some of her in this outfit.
>>280216933that's true. which leads me to think that the person most likely responsible for the lack of fan service might be yoshizawa. She is talented and has a great style, but maybe she has no interest in giving the male viewers a treat
>>280216871We saw the bare uncensored ass of Tooe, Tsukihi, and Nadeko in Zoku, yet they couldn't do the same with Acerola. The Mono staff is a shell of its former self.
>>280217078I just checked and she was the director for the titflation episode that also had that underboob shot anon
>>280217149No that was Shibuta Naoaki. Yoshizawa did episode 5, the roboko episode.
>>280217137shut up with acerola already. it was a scene in literal heaven with an angel like woman speaking down to araragi and giving him advice. the whole scene was supposed to feel mysterious and she was supposed to feel divine. filling that with fanservice would have made that impossible and unfitting. when I talk about fanservice, then I mean nademonogatari, which had a lot more potential. I promise you when nisio watched nade, he felt slightly disappointed that they didn't go further
>>280217234That was still a very great episode. She should be put in charge of surreal gags.
>>280217318>nisio watched nade, he felt slightly disappointed that they didn't go furtherNo, he didn't. Read Ikusamonogatari.
>>280217318Saying they did too little for Nadeko is a serious understatement. The only thing lacking is that the art was slightly bland. But that is understandable since they were coming back after years and a period of time where a lot of companies suffered.
>>280175456Who has the bigger butt?
>>280190462This is a crazy take. What in the world.
>>280217454I did. You're a lying faggot.
>>280217608Sorry for saying strange things! I don't know what overtook me.
>>280217635Ikusa is basically about how we need to change with the times.
>>280217765It says the exact opposite. The whole book is essentially Nisio seething over censorship like he always has.
>>280217776How? At the end of the day they accept that the "loli slave" shit is inappropriate. Nisio's afterword doesn't sound particularly anti-censorship.
>>280217078If that's the case, it's a shame. Her ninkoro episode was by far my favorite.
>>280217932They don't accept shit. Araragi has a random thought "denouncing" the phrase like he has always done about being a lolicon (possibly a manifestation of his lingering self loathing). Hitagi turns around and uses it again with little pushback too. The afterword also has nothing to do with censorship. It is primarily about education and modernity which are two things he's always focused on. The main thrust of it being rigid thought, connecting to the theme of unchanging he has been drumming up recently with Shaft. It is almost like a prelude to things such as Undead. The contrast of these ancient monsters to the modern world. Also looping in with Araragi, who hasn't really changed no matter what crazy thing happens to him. All in all, it probably is a meta joke about the characters remaining stagnant to allow the series to go on forever.
>>280210135>404Set the autodelete to three days so it'll outlast the thread for fucks sake.
>>280218509It was just some shitty Patreon art of an off model Kanbaru getting railed. I'm not sure you really missed much.
>>280217708Every time I see this I always wonder if it's the same one I encoded all those years ago.
>>280218541What's a Patreon art?
>>280218816An art made for the website Patreon. The proportions are typically exaggerated in part because a lot of western social media artists don't have good taste, and also because Patreon may have a shit fit if their characters look even slightly too young.
>>280218580It is interesting to think about the spread of images and videos on 4chan. Most images and videos posted on 4chan are probably also downloaded off of it too.
>>280218509My bad kek
https://litter.catbox.moe/m5oeujw9i4c14gf8.jpg
>>280218220It's not just the phrase. Shinobu does end up becoming their daughter and Senjogahara says how she wouldn't be approve of her "loli slave" status even back then as a woman, and I fail to see how she wasn't serious about it.
>>280205207>>280205965AI doing what Shaft legally cant anymore, goddamn.
>>280219044Then you completely misunderstood what that conversation was about.
>>280219044Please just reread the story. Maybe also reread or rewatch the rest of the series too.
>>280218996While I still don't prefer the image, I retract my Patreon statement. I must have been confusing it for something else. This, while still awkward, doesn't really look like Patreon art.
>>280214668Amari is basically just Araragi and Yotsugi alone in a haunted apartment for the entire story. Basically no other characters appear in it.
On a side note, I went to the wiki to double-check whether Mayoi had some very minor appearance I was forgetting, only to find the summary of the book is copy/pasted from an early spoiler summary written by someone who only half-understood enough Japanese to read the book. Like, whoever wrote that summary didn't even understand what the inciting incident of the book was.
>>280219721Not that I care but for small talk. Why do you not prefer the image? Or to hone in on it, is it on some principle or would you just like it some other way.
>>280200345>Nadeko: in a casual shirt and looking on like she just went through something and is now relaxing.>Karen: well dressed and ready to do something serious, all that matters is that she views her situation seriously.>Mayoi: juicy thighs on display with her skirt lifting up, hinting at its delicious contents.>Yotsugi: thin white dress exposing her sexy back and chest, combining with her belly look from last cour to let us see even more previously unknown parts of her lewd and luscious body.>Shinobu: standing dominant above all wearing nothing but an oversized top, her thighs too hinting at what is under, with her smugness ever taunting. She knows how it looks, and assuring you she has upmost confidence in what is in store.
>>280219915First of all I should just clarify that I mostly prefer softcore stuff anyway. But other than that, I don't like the proportions. Those kinds of tits also aren't for me, I don't like oversized nipples and more naturally shaped boobs don't really look good in something more stylized. It just gives me a sort of "gross" feelings because of how the detailing is used. Maybe it is just because I have a sort of art fetish though and I really like getting off to super aesthetically pleasing things.
>>280220094I see. Final question about the proportions. You don't like them as in, they are off-model for her or from a quality of art and perspective point?
>>280204023>Sodachi has been created only for the biggest autists and schizophrenic individualsThat would be me, yes.
>>280209465Someone made a poll a while ago where most crabfags stated they're anorexic like their waifu. You might be onto something here.
>>280220178I'm not sure the perspective is really off. You could nitpick the technicalities of some proportions. But it works and looks cohesive which is all that matters (look at some classic realistic paintings for that matter, quite a few have proportions that are nonsensical if you think too hard). I mostly have a personal issue with off model and the style not being for me. I pretty much prefer younger characters anyways like lolis. I can go for older characters (especially tomboys because they look young and spunky to me), but still have a preference towards youth. Since her official art is by Watanabe Akio, she looks pretty young in most official art. This basically gives me my center of reference that I compare fan art to since I prefer the elements of the official style in this case. The painting quality is pretty good and the anatomical detail is mostly on point. It mostly is just that I don't prefer the elements.
I haven't read the novels yet, but something tells me Off Season is better than Monster Season overall. Maybe Nisio is getting a bit tired the further he goes.
>>280220487Thank you for your answer. I am not flexible with what I view as off-model art as well. It has to capture the essense of the character for me, whatever that means. I am more flexible with diffefent artstyles that manage to do that though.
>>280220488I think it is mostly that he likes detective novels. He wanted to make Monster Season about Araragi acting as a detective. It wasn't really what most fans wanted in the series though. But he continued as he had already gone far enough and just wanted to finish it up. It is worth noting that some of it came out simultaneously to cool moments in the anime, so people may have been more content while they still had the anime before it went into break. I heard that supposedly the Japanese fans didn't really like it either and demanded he go back to what he once did. The new thing seems well received by them and he and Shaft are nostalgia bating hard now so I assume it worked. I also have faith that Shaft will do Monster Season well, they can always add something nice artistically. Even if they didn't, they are spacing out Off Season to go alongside it anyway. I think the main problem with Nisio now is simply that he writes slowly. But maybe he'll get more energy seeing an increase in popularity of Monogatari.
>>280220622Ah so all of Monster Season is like Mustard? Yeah I think I'm not going to enjoy it as much, but I'd be more than happy to be surprised.
At this point I would be ok with Shaft catching up, and him only writing something when he feels like it's gonna be really good.
>>280175155 (OP)If Araragi isn't in it I'm not watching.
>>280221273I love how they know what sells and put the stands upfront.
>>280220785>Ah so all of Monster Season is like Mustard?Most of it, anyway. The last Araragi book in Monster Season feels nothing like the rest of the season. Even tone-wise, it feels a lot more laid back.
>>280221273No idea what this is but to have made it now it makes me think the season is not too far off. Unless it was made to announce a date.
>>280220488The reason for that makes a lot more sense after reading NISIO's notes on Off Season. Basically, he had no fucking clue where to take the series after Owari, so he used Off Season to basically test out different characters as the next protagonist after Araragi. That's why like half of them end with a hook for future stories that never gets followed up on.
Ultimately, Nadeko was the one he found most interesting from that experiment, but he still decided none of them really have the star power to carry the series and went back to Araragi.
>>280221673He should just write more sexy scenes and deep emotional stuff. It is what he does best.
>>280221673My problem wasn't really with Araragi being there (Mustard is the only one I watched). It's the fact that it didn't do anything for his character (or any other character). Nothing learned, no internal struggle outside of riddles. Maybe it's better as a whole and things were there to set something up. Kinda doubtful at this point. I understand it's not that easy for Nisio. I am glad to hear Family Season is shaping up to be more intetesting.
>>280221227Shut up, Crab.
>>280221382It's a Monogatari tanabata festival event:
https://x.com/nisioisin_anime/status/1940697954349994421
They had one last year too and they might have shown a new trailer at it, but i don't really remember.
>>280221998Literally everyone likes Araragi. Get over it.
How popular exactly is Monogatari in Japan? I know it is very popular, but how much so?
>>280222533He is literally me, so I hate him.
>>280222533I love him too but I also like the stories where isn't featured prominently, I think it's silly not to watch it just because he isn't in.
>>280217137...Could you post them, real quick?
>>280222660He's the protagonist.
>>280222533>Literally everyone likes AraragiThis is true but it doesn't mean we have to bear him being the protagonist of every single fucking arcs.
Fact the matter is, the overly agreed on best arc in the entire story is the one where Kaiki is the protag and araragi is nowhere to be found, Kaiki utterly heromogged him to no avail.
There's barely any anime/manga/LN franchise with as many interesting characters as monogatari does, having yotsugi be the protagonist for a few arcs is the right choice.
I'd like to see several occult club arcs as well.
I can't stop imagining Tsugimonogatari getting a Kizuesque movie adaptation.
>still need to get around to reading the books in nip
maybe i have enough time before the new cour
>>280223745You could probably learn all the kanji you'd ever need before Tsugi releases in October. The problem though is learning the vocabulary, which may be a bit more strenuous.
>>280221843Yeah, blame the anime for cutting out the scene where he spells out exactly what the purpose of the story was.
Monster Season as a whole is a sort of redemption arc for Araragi. Every book is an obvious parallel to something he regrets from high school, giving him a chance to reflect on the mistake and reflect on how his experiences have ensured he's no longer the kind of person who would make those mistakes.
Shinobu Mustard is about Araragi's "other people will lower my humanity" attitude. In the novel, he has a long reflection in the climax about how he sees himself in the vampire girl. But he's also mature enough to understand that he was only able to fix the problem because he actually socializes now (I think the anime left it out, but he's been actively TRYING to make friends in college, but Meniko is his only success so far). It ultimately results in Araragi forgiving himself for being a stupid child.
I really have no idea why the anime felt the story's through-line wasn't important. A bunch of other smaller stuff that adds to it also got lost in adaption, like Araragi starting to see Gaen as a person rather than something that just pops up to cause/solve problems.
What if Araragi opened Mayoi's backpack and found another Mayoi inside?
>>280223048>the overly agreedBy who? Are they in the room with us now?
>>280224383Maybe he was just telling a lie...
>>280224373Creepy to imagine her corpse in there.
>>280224383https://tiermaker.com/categories/anime-and-manga/monogatari-arcs-19609
https://x.com/nisioisin_anime/status/1824355414483566733/photo/1
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1872758
Trying to pretend Koi isn't considered a top3 arc by most people who've read or watched monogatari might be the most delusional take I've seen about the franchise. You are the minority if you disagree.
>>280223048>having yotsugi be the protagonist for a few arcs is the right choice"A few arcs"? She basically replaces Shinobu as the main companion from this point forward. Like, holy shit does she get a lot of page time. There are TWO whole adapted books that are 95% just the narrator talking to Yotsugi with no other characters appearing.
>>280212011hate towards rrrg doesn't count. that's an eternal flame that will never be put out. I was responding to >hating everybody
>>280220785Yeah, they're similar but mustard was still the worst book. The others are enjoyable to some extent
>>280224211This, 6 episodes for mustard just to leave out important information like that was quite dumb. The ending felt ultra rushed
>>280178386>virgin punkOh yeah it's this girl the director is obsessed with. Of course there'd be nipples/copious amount of sex.
>>280221673>Ultimately, Nadeko was the one he found most interesting from that experiment, but he still decided none of them really have the star power to carry the series and went back to Araragi.That's a shame, I hope he gets back to Nadeko soon. Owari and Zoku Owari felt like a good, definitive end for Araragi's time as the protaganist and while I don't mind him having a story or two to see how his university/family life is, I'd rather the main spotlight be over someone else now.
>>280224211While this sounds nice and all it still feels like it repeats what Owari was supposed to be, Araragi coming to terms with his adolescence, viewing it as something good instead of throwing it away after growing up. There are few things more infuriating that characters learning one thing only to be treated as void later. The most interesting stuff you mentioned was him struggling to make friends in college even when he tries. A focus on that would be way more interesting in my opinion.
But yeah the anime didn't help sell the arc, especially if it's a weak arc on Nisio's side as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP67xbHrvdI
All the great images in that set and that's the one you pick. Anon, you can do better.
>still no Sodachi Fiasco
They are just fucking with us at this point..
>>280225194This is why I don't care for doll. Overpushed, not that interesting of a sidekick.
>>280223668don't get carried away, we don't even know if it's good yet.
Tsugimonogatari could turn out to be his worst novel for all we know.
>>280200356How good are those arcs?
>>280230555The second half of Yoimonogatari is amazing. Amari feels like something that should be about half as long as it is.
>>280230555shinomonogatari won't be in this cour, that anon doesn't know what he's talking about
>>280230650I'd agree with this anon. Yoi could have also been shorter though. Karen ogre is short and fun.
>>280230650>>280230700If the only problem with those books is the length, then that seems like something that an adaption could easily fix by going full Kabuki on it and cutting a lot out.
>>280231232Yet they didn't do that for mustard
>>280230025I want to believe
>>280231295Well, they did cut a lot out. But a lot of it was stuff they shouldn't have cut.
>>280231295I can't imagine that every book adaption is going to be six episodes long, espacially not when there are so many arcs left to adapt.
This is a yes or no question.
Have we gotten tanned Monkey so far?
I might have to send a letter to Nisio.
>>280231572Should be tanned naked Monkey
>>280216906We already know what happened, don't we? Some freaky college students were messing with the occult and decided to get a corpse of a little girl from somewhere and gave her new life, and then they got cursed for doing something so stupid.
more so then the plot, I'm mostly interested in seeing how the specialists interacted with each other back then. I hope that Nisio makes it fun to listen to those younger versions of them.
Write your wish anon:
https://www.monogatari-series.com/oms/special/tanabata2025/?id=437178db-3b6f-4392-9908-58a354904212
>>280232220I want to know what this does before trying anything.
>>280232355Generates an image apparently
>>280232372I guessed that based off the translation. Now I want to try to see how sexy of an image I can get.
>>280232413It's just a wish card thing with your choice of backround image from those available. I think it gets posted on X or something.
>>280232485Yeah I just found out. I suppose it is good for Nisio getting ideas though.
>>280232220"Remove my child seat"
Kek
I could almost see the new cour coming in time for Halloween and Tsugi release. The logo color looks spooky.
>>280232876Three months between announcement to release is unrealistic. It's going to be 2026.
>>280232847Joke character, plz understand
>>280233352Sex character with many arousing features (including feet)
I wonder what they are going to do with the OP for the Nadeko arcs. Even for SHAFT, making a new OP for each one episode arc is crazy.
>>280233723They did make one for Tsukihi Undo so it's not impossible
>"i wish to do the commentary for Sodachi Fiasco" by Senjougahara Hitagi
This message was hanged up in the tanabata event they are having. What now deniers?
https://x.com/cassis0328/status/1940959114387247522
>>280233998That must mean Nisio hasn't written them yet.
>>280233998Tsukihi's wish says "Make Torimonogatari after Tsugimonogatari". Probably hinting at the next Family Season book
The story arc in Tsugimonogatari is called "Chapter 99: Yotsugi Frank". Could possibly be Flank(?)
>>280233457>(including feet)*especially
>>280234363>chapter 99huh, really weird. how thick is the book?
>>280175155 (OP)>MTBB have started workingThank fuck.
Not that attached to groups these days since gg and the like are all dead, but I tried some other monogatari subs and then gave up with how worse they felt and decided I'd rather just wait.
>>280234933Yotsugi was dead for 100 years before they resurrected her. I'm guessing the book depicts the year leading up to it (the 99th year)
>>280234363Either it is about how frank Yotsugi can be or it is about the time they attached a frank to her as a joke and it got too out of hand.
Outercourse with Snail on a hot summer day
>>280236016It's a trick or treat プランク
>>280234176I wish for a story about the fire sister coming together to solve a oddity case with their brother,
but they are so stupid that they never notice that something supernatural is going on. Very specific, i know, but that's my wish.
>>280236230That makes a lot more sense and pretty much absolutely confirms what this story is about. God I love being right, everything they announced aligns exactly with my predictions.
>>280236221You can do it outside too and no one would think anything of it. They'd just think some crazy guy is thrusting his cock in the air.
Wait a minute, if this cour ends with Amarimonogatari doesn't that mean that the next cour have to start with Ougimonogatari?
They should rethink that plan. You don't want to start a season with Ougi Light.
>>280236638What happens in it?
>>280236638Could be something from Off season first
>>280234363Who the fuck is Frank?
>>280236939Frankenstein
She is being brought back to life. The anime adaptation will have an epic guitar shred while the electricity brings her to life.
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>>280236977You're on to something
>>280236638they're gonna start with suruga bonehead or tsubasa sleeping though?
>>280236977oh shit, I think you're right
>start mono 2 weeks ago
>enjoying the series like fine wine
>already rewatched bake, kizu, nise
>still so much ahead
>worst said here is the direction going off for a while
>author is still trucking along not dead, burnt out, or totally lost
I've never had so much Show to enjoy before.
>>280236977>誕生秘話Sounds right.
>>280237820It pains me to say so but zoomers will inherit the monogatari anime. I don't think I'll live long enough. Enjoy.
>>280237820It is truly magical. An infinite high quality show.
>>280237820>that expressionUOHHHHH
>Karen Ogre is happening
>Sodachi Fiasco is happening
All i wanted to hear. I only watch in novel order so I'm not watching anything of this before all of Off Season is out.
![Screenshot-[Erai-raws] Monogatari Series - Off and Monster Season - 01 [1080p][Multiple Subtitle][E97D34DB]-T00.04.48.539-F6918](/images/a/1751476639509264.png)
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![Screenshot-[ZesseiBijin] Monogatari Series Off & Monster Season 04 Nadeko Draw Part Three (BD 1080p) [25CB8B04]-T00.17.08.319-F24655](/images/a/1751560850804423.png)
