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Daily Wolfsmund Chapter
East Building and West Building Part 1

Chapter 16
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>>280212279 (OP)
Hello OP
Congratulations
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>>280212312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS91knuzoOA&rco=1
Hope you have a nice day
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>>280212342
Killing the guys you question is a good way to have people stop answering you
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>>280212699
RIP Heavy
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And that's it for today
Just pure action

Burn any buildings down recently anon?
Nothing of note.

Thank you for reading
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>>280212917
Thanks OP
Only bridges
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>>280212699
Jesus, poor guy
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>>280212904
>going solo
I'm sure this will go well.
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>>280212414
Oh you
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I believe in Wolfram, he can still win this.
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>>280212917
Thanks OP.
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>>280212917
Thank you for posting.
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>>280212414
She's been lonely after her boytoys died.
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>>280212489
Sasuga herr Wolfram! Still fighting to the end.
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>>280219965
>Wolfram
>fighting
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>>280212605
What kind of Scooby Doo mansion is this?
Anonymous No.280220066 [Report] >>280266725
i will always remember this manga for thet way the execute the bad guy. So satisfying
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>>280212699
The end result of full STR build.
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>>280220018
You will be surprised
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>>280212917
Insane architects
Nice try, officer
Thanks OP
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>>280212605
If the floor isn't hiding spike traps then I am going to be disappointed
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>>280212699
Well damn, this is worse than spike traps
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>>280212750
Ah yes, THOSE!
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>>280220831
same
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WOULD the Hapsburg army even be able to do anything?
The only way in is the broken gate and climbing the corpse pile, on top of which would obviously be rebels with polearms and a total highground advantage
Nice horsies knights, but you got to leave them outside
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>>280212699
Do these things exist irl? Any real, historical accounts of using crushing mechanisms like this?
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>>280212917
>Burn any buildings down recently anon?
No, I've neglected my inner pyromaniac.
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Why the fuck did Castle have way too much booby trap?
Should they just used the money to hiring actually competent merc?
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>>280212782
Why did Wolfram wasting the money to build crusher if rebel can just used stone to fuck shit up?
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>>280212561
Can't you use the artillery as is?
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>>280223716
Most probably not, this is industrial factory shit
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>>280223327
Siege them with superior forces?
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>>280223327
>WOULD the Hapsburg army even be able to do anything?
Just surround the fort. Realistically, the Habsburg army would attack the rebels and scatter them, but these rebels are WAY more organized and disciplined than any peasant army
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stop asking too many retarded question that you can easily answer it yourself by reading twice.
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>>280223327
If they reach the fort from the north, and don't fully siege, the rebels would be forced to retreat into Italy. Even if the rebels took full control of the fort, there's no way they could hold it long term or survive a siege, there's probably little food, considering the garrison seems relatively small, and there's no help coming to break the siege.
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>>280225932
it's not like a cannon, its not strong enough to blast a hole in the wall and not accurate enough to target a specific door or window etc
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>>280212302
>>280212285
Oh wow, this shit is horrible; so much dead space.
Clearly a case of prioritizing convenience over actual defensibility, and even then I don't understand why they had to split it in two.

No wonder Wolfram had to bulkorder from the Ye Olde ACME catalog.
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>>280226790
>thinking they will read this
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Thanks for reading everyone
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>>280223327
Generally, sieges were resolved by treachery or by starvation.
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>>280230787
Morning OP
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>>280223327
did you not see the shit the gatekeeper knight pulled? the rebels might be better than the typical habsburg goons (that probably are also peasants anyway, one that lacks the rebel's fighting motivation) but against an actually properly trained, highly skilled warrior like berthold they still dropped like flies
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>>280230787
Good afternoon, OP
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>>280212714
>this castle is wolfram himself
That's probably one of the most memorable lines in the manga
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>>280212426
I think they ran out of questions.
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>>280212699
He deserved better...
>>280223716
Even as just a tripping mechanism it's too easy to jam. It would be less useful than just a gap.
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>>280212876
This was predictable, how did they not have a crossbowman covering them?
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>>280234610
Small indie uprising, please understand.
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>>280235360
You can clearly see who the 10x is in this start-up.
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>>280223327
I don't see how the rebels could surviving a simple siege
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>>280230787
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>>280239764
How fitting
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>>280240460
That would be why I picked it
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Any moment now.
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Chapter 17
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>>280242496
LETS GO !!
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>>280242496
Hello OP
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>>280242568
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqgQ3FWrn9A
Hope you have a nice day
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>>280242796
Could Habu?
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>>280242860
>using a corpse as a counterweight
Sick
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>>280243190
Is he in the mattress
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And that's it for today
The ride never ends

Ask something if you can think of it

Thank you for reading
Previous chapter: >>280212279 (OP)

Happy 4th of July to all my American friends
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The Full Moon watchalong will start in about 2 hours
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>>280243208
Thanks OP
Where would you hide
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>>280243208
Thanks as always.
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>>280243154
>You're not him? Fuck you!
Wow rude.
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>>280243229
If I was Wolfram I would dress as a common soldier so the rebels would kill me quick. Steal their catharsis.
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>>280242745
>>280242707
>>must, kill, Wolfram
>>weeeeeeee!
>>must, kill, Wolfram
>>weeeeeeee!
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>>280242824
God damn that's cool, and so well paneled. Doesn't break pace, clearly discernible movements, no panel wasted, not a panel too excessive
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>>280243009
Jesus Walter just fuck the poor woman, she's thirsty
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>>280245262
She was getting DP'd on the regular before the siege
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>>280245288
Somehow she still has the energy to ache for the Tell clan's arrow
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>>280242496
Hot
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>>280242575
This had to have taken 20 minutes
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>>280245262
She is also a walking death flag, I'd give her five chapters at best.
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>>280242534
>you are the cornerstone of this war
Why, again? Has he even done anything?
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>>280248457
He is the only rebel who managed to get out, and the only one who managed to return.
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>>280243208
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
I am always amazed at how disciplined these people are. ISIS would kill for people like them
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>>280243208
The bed didn't do anything. Rude.
Thanks OP
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>>280248457
the son of a major figurehead, even if he doesn't do anything he lends legitimacy for the movement. he's kinda like khamenei jr or jong un etc (except he actually does shit instead of just riding his dad's coattail)
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>>280242677
>Not putting guards on the stand-by there
Wolfram...
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>>280243190
Angry horny?
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>>280243208
Thx mate.
God, I really hope he skeddadled somewhere. That would be extremely funny.
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>>280224912
Wolfram didn't expect an organized revolt like this
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>>280243154
>hang them
>where the world would see
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>>280243208
>he ABSCONDED
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>>280244412
What, die like a commoner rabble? Surely not. As noble, you are per definition better than your underlings and those filthy mountain peasants.
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>>280251398
kek
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>>280252685
Long and prolonged tortured death it is then.
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>>280242927
is there a reason that one particular balloon got an absurdly high quality typesetting
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>>280254200
It was an important bubble.
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>>280243190
Time for sex
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>>280243208
Thank you for posting.
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>>280243208
>Ask something if you can think of it
Best egg based dish.
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>>280259984
You mother's womb
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>we're soon going to reach "that" chapter
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>>280259988
Literally ashes.
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>>280243208
disappointing hilde cute
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Thanks for reading everyone
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>>280262759
Morning OP
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>>280262248
I'll rehydrate them
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>>280260430
You mean THAT chapter?
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>>280243208
This got me thinking from the time I asked how would you hold out an invasion already on your doorstep.

How would you build a fortress/checkpoint in Wolfram's time? What would you change about the castle?
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>>280265578
Well, I would make sure that there's a secret escape route. Or better yet, 10 multiple ones, all guarded heavily, and then just skedaddle away.
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>>280265656
I'm actually surprised the castle doesn't have escape routes for that one immeasurable fuck up that would eventually happen.
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>>280265738
Budget cuts.
Leopold only gave enough money to make a murder-fortress that can only be conquered by proto-swiss mountain ninjas.
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>>280265656
>all guarded heavily
Good way to blow the secret
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Is there book about this war? Like more historical than fiction.
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>>280265578
Build it into a mountain and have both entrances be collapsible
If an army is coming for me i'm fucked anyway, I'm taking all those bastards with me dorf fort style
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>>280265578
on the top of my head:
>scrap the smaller forts that apparently aren't that useful and use the leftover material/budget to reinforce the main one
>change the main castle layout to a star fort to eliminate blind zones (would that be viable with this period's materials and tech?)
>invest in a regular bow unit in addition to crossbows. the faster shooting bows would help a lot because the rebels almost never wear armor anyway
>hire more dudes like bertolt
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>>280212699
this is some dwarf fortress shit
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>>280265656
>escape route
I assume that the Hapsburgs were responsible for building the castle. It's not in their interest to give whoever controls the checkpoint to have an escape route; they don't want to lose the checkpoint and so they'd rather have their underlings fight to the death defending against a siege rather than take a secret escape route.
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>>280220066
>go into a storytime
>spoil what happens
anon...
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>>280266092
Well, the book "The Habsburg: To Rule The World" from Martyn Rady might have some passages regarding their conflicts with the confederacy.
The habsburgian who got defeated by the confederacy were Leopold I (will be shown in this book), his nephew Leopold III (got killed by the confederates), and lastly emperor Maximilian I, who lost 10.000 soldiers when invading Switzerland.
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>>280243208
I know it's manga and all, but all the superhumans in the rebel side kind of annoy me. IT would be more fun if there were more exceptional hapsburg troops other than bertholt
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>>280266932
Well, the habsburgian are made up of two types of soldiers:
a) pathetic commoner soldiers drafted into their service surrounded by angry mountainfolks
b) elite knights who are all individually superior to 10 superhuman rebels each.

Pathetic commoner soldiers can still pose a problem to the rebels thanks to their superior fortification, but in the end, they're just rabble that wasn't paid enough to do that shit job.
And elite knights are not meant to guard mere fortresses, but are needed to crush the prince-electors who refuse to side with the habsburg.

Honestly, if Wolfram had two or three more knights like Berthold, I kinda doubt that the rebels could have conquered the wolf's maw fortress at all.
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>>280266932
I'm just waiting for what will happen when Leopold comes back. If they ever show that.
Given Bertholt performance and the rebels's fear I will be disappointed if it isn't a one-sided massacare.
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>>280267151
>if Wolfram had two or three more knights like Berthold
tbf he kinda had 2 more, but they jobbed and bertholdt had to takeover both of their posts. i think even among knights that dude is still abnormally strong
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>>280265578
Wolfsmund, as the layouts here >>280212285 >>280212302 indicate, was clearly never meant to be anything more than a speedbump to any serious besieging force. The only reason the rebels have as much trouble as they do is simply because they're ill-equipped.

I agree with the other anon that the mountain outposts have no reason to be as heavily built as they are.
Also no reason why there should be two keeps, or why the wall passageways should have overhead cover that prevents the defenders from placing fires on enemies that go over the top.

There should be at least two walls before the main keep, each one designed so that defenders can punish breaches to the preceding wall, as in pic rel. If the rebels had to go through the same shit as they did to breach the courtyard even just another time, the attrition would be decisive. Defense in depth is a certified classic.

>>280266353
>are they even viable with period materials?
Of course, but star fort designs are optimized for cannon fire and early modern siege tactics. They are prohibitively expensive otherwise, and they also increase the area of wall you have to defend. Wolfsmund, being a gateway fort, would realistically look like the Torburg-Eigelstein.
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>>280268788
>The only reason the rebels have as much trouble as they do is simply because they're ill-equipped.
Anon, the place has false floors, wall spikes, and rolling crushers
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>>280268823
Well that too, but if you have to resort to goofy shit like that then maybe you should have spent that money making sure they never got inside to begin with.

Castles and forts absolutely did have interior killzones and traps, but Wolfsmund ramps it up to Looney Tunes levels. The mangaka's attention to detail is better than most and definitely praiseworthy, but as always Rule of Cool has primacy.
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>>280268823
Those thing only harm like at most 4-5 people, and slower movement for a bit
Its only good against thef, or assasin, not against army or
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>>280269349
or..?
a-anon??
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>>280270091
He got booby trapped
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>>280254200
probably its surface area called for some creativity
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>>280262505
she's always cute
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Chapter 18
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>>280273949
Hello OP
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>>280273976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK0cN-VKq-Y
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>>280274047
Cool imagery
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https://www.sarahwoodbury.com/the-invention-of-the-chimney/
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>>280274011
Nice collection. Wonder how long it took him to collect it.
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>>280274556
Probably would be a good idea to smoke the room out first
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>>280274117
I get the significance of killing Wolfram. But Leopold can just replace him
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>>280274591
Time to look for the secret secret room
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>>280274297
>Hag trying to act cute
Horrendous
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>>280274605
It's good that Wolfram himself is genuinely competent too and not just hiding behind soldiers
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>>280274645
This is why hate this manga. Looks like the author hates cute milfs with a passion.
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>>280274377
Cool imagery.
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>>280274645
This man CANNOT stop killing women
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>>280274500
And this is why sfx has to be translated.
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>>280274280
Shibari
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>>280274667
Age is no barrier to cuteness
Being a whore is
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And that's it for today
There is nothing this guy can't do

Ask something if you can think of it

Thank you for reading
Previous chapter: >>280242496
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>>280274792
Thanks OP
Wolves, dogs, or foxes?
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>>280274792
Man, fuck this guy
Thanks OP
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>>280274836
I have to admire how good of a cockroach he is
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>>280274773
Cool pose
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>>280274727
What is Wolfram's build? Dex int?
Anonymous No.280275137 [Report] >>280275154
>>280275030
Dex int with some char
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>>280274117
>undergoing a siege
He shouldn't even consider this. They cannot hold that castle, they should 100% destroy it. Yes, the Habsburgs can rebuild it, but that'll take years and in the meantime the insurrection can get a lot stronger via easy travel to Italy. After all, if they get sieged, what are they holding out for? There's no relief army coming. They need to raze Wolfsmund and retreat back into the mountains.
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>>280275137
>char
Literally everyone wants him dead
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>>280274627
>>280274645
>Peasant Dex vs Nobleman Dex
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>>280274605
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>>280274219
Why even enter the chimney? Just get some more boiling oil and pour it down
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>>280275154
Charisma doesn't necessarily means being liked
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>>280274645
Revenge status: DENIED
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>>280274792
Very much looking forward to the next chapter.
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>>280275278
Walter's gonna die and Wolfram will kill all the Swiss single-handedly somehow
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>>280274717
You will never find a person who hates women more than other women
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>>280274627
>>280274645
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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>>280274773
Any Euro scholars can tell us if Wolfram movement are reminiscent of any martial arts style?
Anonymous No.280275358 [Report] >>280275624
>>280274732
Learn kana
Anonymous No.280275417 [Report]
>>280274792
Thanks OP
These rebels are pretty boneheaded. I already said why burning down the fort is their best move, but even after finding that secret room, just going in was an awful idea. At least, they should've said they found something and were going in. Obviously, they should've smoked the room out because they expected Wolfram to be in there.
Wolfy deserves to win
Anonymous No.280275624 [Report] >>280275725
>>280275358
If I knew moonrunes I wouldn't be reading translated manga.
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>>280275624
Kana isn't kanji. You can learn Kana in a few hours
Anonymous No.280276172 [Report] >>280282115 >>280284263
I feel like elaborating further on why holding the fort is a terrible idea. If the Habsburgs arrive while they're still there, they're getting sieged. Getting sieged is game over. Firstly, there are WAY too many men for them to endure a siege. Castles are tools that enable small numbers of men to hold out against much larger numbers. There are seemingly several hundred, if not several thousand rebels inside a castle they JUST stormed. There is no way they have enough supplies to last. Secondly, last until what? There is no relief army coming to save them. Sure, they could last until the Habsburgs go home, but that's extremely unlikely. Even if the Habsburgs did go home, the rebels still cannot hold that castle forever. Eventually, the peasants will have to go home, and then Leopold will swoop back in.
The rebels need to raze Wolfsmund. Doing so gives them a massive propaganda victory that they can level to bolster support. And in the years it takes the Austrians to rebuild, there's still much more freedom of movement that will let the rebels better equip themselves. The basics of PPW is that insurgents never commit themselves to pitched battle. Insurgents should pop out of the hills, overwhelm local garrisons and do things that are popular, and melt back into the countryside as soon as the military shows up.
As for Wolfram, destroying Wolfsmund might kill him. But even if it doesn't, it still takes away his power. And he'll probably be killed for his failure regardless
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>>280275179
hehe
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>>280274645
Based hag destroyer.

>>280274773
I believe in Wolfram he can still win this.
Actual spoilers below.
At least he still haunts Walter even after death.
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>>280274605
i was expecting a saddam hussein style hole in the floor
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>>280275315
>Wolfram will kill all the Swiss single-handedly somehow
Only the women
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>>280275725
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>>280276172
They just really REALLY hate Wolfram and wants to spite him by taking control.
Anonymous No.280283966 [Report] >>280328661
>>280274732
why, all that matters is that it's obviously different
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>>280282065
kek
Anonymous No.280284263 [Report] >>280284412
>>280276172
>There is no way they have enough supplies to last. Secondly, last until what? There is no relief army coming to save them. Sure, they could last until the Habsburgs go home, but that's extremely unlikely
They can last fucking forever if the want IMO. Remember that this pass is apparently the only way to get in and out from the mountains if you're not William Tell. The habsburg can only wait outside and maybe attempt assaults that will be severely constrained by the size of the bottleneck. Meanwhile the swiss can hold the fort and keep supplies/reinforcements indefinitely flowing from inside the territory
Anonymous No.280284412 [Report] >>280284783 >>280285804
>>280284263
>Meanwhile the swiss can hold the fort and keep supplies/reinforcements indefinitely flowing from inside the territory
What? They'd be surrounded. It's not a siege unless the fort is surrounded
Anonymous No.280284783 [Report] >>280285030
>>280284412
Then they won't have to worry because there won't be a siege. They can never be completely surrounded. Like i said the fort is the only way to get in and out
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>>280273970
Ber-TOLD
Anonymous No.280285030 [Report] >>280285820
>>280284783
>Like i said the fort is the only way to get in and out
No? Not only can the Habsburgs use other mountain passes to surround the fort, it's not like the fort completely blocks the valley. They can just cross the ice lake to get to the other side. The rebels can't block them without committing to a pitched battle (that they would lose)
Anonymous No.280285804 [Report] >>280287750
>>280284412
I agreed with you at first, but the more I think about it the more I think the other anon is right.

Conventionional wisdom would suggest destroying the fort entirely is the best option, but in these specific circumstances the retarded idea to keep the fortress around may beat out conventional wisdom.

What the rebels have going for them is the sheer intensity of their hatred of the Hapsburg oppressors. It's almost like Wolfram gifted them this, their greatest weapon. We saw how desperate they were to climb over sacrificial corpses to slaughter the garrison soldiers without mercy.

If Leopold wants to siege the fortress completely, he will have to march his army through miles and miles of murderous Swiss territory. Even with a great show of force and proper weapons, I think the sheer hatred would fuel a relentless resistance that would make every mile marched a bloody one. Then imagine trying to set up a camp on the Swiss side to siege the fortress, the army would be a sitting duck for constant guerrilla raids.

Keeping the fortress around gives the rebels a defensible base of operations, control of traffic coming from the Italian side and sends a message to outside powers that they can do more than just burn and pillage. This last benefit could help them convince outside powers like Bavaria or France to lend military aid to their cause by displaying a certain degree of competence.

The most important factor that makes this scenario work is the sheer amount of bloodlust the mountain cantons feel towards the Hapsburgs. As long as this makes travel through their territory too costly, the fort cannot be fully sieged and supplies can be relied upon from the Swiss side, while the Italian side is defended.
Anonymous No.280285820 [Report] >>280287750
>>280285030
>Not only can the Habsburgs use other mountain passes to surround the fort, it's not like the fort completely blocks the valley
It does, the entire story before this point was about prople trying pass the checkpoint because they can't get out otherwise
>They can just cross the ice lake to get to the other side
No they can't, theres also chain and nets to block lake crossings and the entire lake is within the range of the fort's ballistas
>The rebels can't block them without committing to a pitched battle
I don't see why they would need to
Anonymous No.280286015 [Report] >>280286102 >>280286474
The fuck Wolfram can do?
Even if he kill those 2, anyone with 2 braincell would recognize that something went wrong if noone came out
That's why he should invest on secret passage instead of wasting money on booby trap
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>>280286015
He could kill so many confederate rebels until their corpses might block the entrances, and then wait for rescue by duke Leopold I.
Anonymous No.280286474 [Report] >>280286649 >>280287461
>>280286015
Even if he stay hidden, he would die of thirst before rescue arrives, unless he sneak out to get water
Anonymous No.280286649 [Report] >>280286733
>>280286474
Corpses have blood.
Blood for the Habsburgian Magistrate to survive for weeks.
Anonymous No.280286733 [Report] >>280286758
>>280286649
The guy is like a monster but I don't think he's a vampire, man
Anonymous No.280286758 [Report]
>>280286733
Well, he's not thirsty yet.
Anonymous No.280287461 [Report]
>>280286474
Presumably his hidey hole has food and water stashed in it, would be a pisspoor hidden refuge for waiting out sieges otherwise
Anonymous No.280287750 [Report] >>280288156
>>280285804
While the Swiss are hostile to the Austrians, they're already shown to have an extremely tight grip on the region. Plus, I'm trying to be realistic in my analysis. I will admit that the rebels are way too fucking organized to be realistic. The level of organization you're describing might occur in the manga, but it'd require 20th century communication to pull off. Realistically, the Austrians would have no problem making it to the fort from their side and surrounding it.
As for using it as a base of operations, that makes them a sitting duck. Austria will always be able to bring more force to bear on the region than the Swiss would, they're simply wealthier. And when they do, what then? Sure, the Swiss could ask for foreign intervention, but they get the same propaganda boost while retaining strategic autonomy if they don't chain themselves to Wolfsmund
>>280285820
>It does, the entire story before this point was about prople trying pass the checkpoint because they can't get out otherwise
No, anon, the entire story before this point was about Wolframs supernatural ability to maintain the border. If Leopold parks 5,000 levies on the Swiss side of the border and orders another 2,000 cross, what can the rebels do?
>No they can't, theres also chain and nets to block lake crossings and the entire lake is within the range of the fort's ballistas
Again, these were effecting because Wolfram was a sublime commander.
>I don't see why they would need to
Because how else would they stop the Austrians from crossing?
Anonymous No.280288156 [Report] >>280288184
>>280287750
>how else would they stop the Austrians from crossing?
You really don't need futuristic communication tech or high organizational skills in order to wait until the boats crossing the lake inevitably got stuck on the nets and then shoot them with the big crossbow
Anonymous No.280288184 [Report]
>>280288156
>Austrians send men to clear the nets and other traps
>prepare counterbattery fire to cover them
>able to cross in peace
As shrimple as that
Alternatively
>Austrians just cross elsewhere (Wolfsmund isn't the only mountain pass)
Not that clamplicated
Anonymous No.280288677 [Report] >>280289181
Keep in mind that the confederate forest countain region is in the mountains, so sending an army to besiege a fortress in the mountains is going to take lots of efforts.
Anonymous No.280288702 [Report]
>>280274645
Kek I knew it. There was no way that guy would fuck.
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>>280274645
The Wolf does it again! arguably for the last time.
Anonymous No.280289181 [Report]
>>280288677
>forest region is in the mountains
All the more reason they shouldn't hold the fort and should instead melt back into friendly terrain.
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>>280274792
Thank you for posting.
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>>280274605
My hero!!!
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>>280274139
Wolfram is Santa?
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>>280274239
I have a hunch that this won't end well.
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>>280274645
Called it. I knew at least one person would die in this chapter.
Anonymous No.280292434 [Report] >>280292578 >>280293903
Thanks for reading everyone
Anonymous No.280292578 [Report]
>>280292434
Morning OP
Anonymous No.280293903 [Report]
>>280292434
Good afternoon, OP.
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>>280274605
I love Wolfram.
Anonymous No.280294335 [Report] >>280295498
>>280275154
I want him to live a long and placid life
Anonymous No.280295498 [Report]
>>280294335
Don't hope too hard.
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>>280274645
RIP Hilde
She never got to fuck Walter
Anonymous No.280297014 [Report] >>280297097 >>280303297 >>280313686
>>280274759
>"If i die here, my allies definitely wont investigate the one place where their leader and one of their best combatants went missing!"
What.
Anonymous No.280297097 [Report] >>280313686
>>280297014
Presumably Wolfram would re-seal the room and the rest of the revolutionaries wouldn't be able to figure it out
Anonymous No.280297281 [Report] >>280299158
>>280275154
he never failed any bluff so far
Anonymous No.280299158 [Report]
>>280297281
Simply had luck with the dice rolls.
Anonymous No.280301105 [Report] >>280304550
>>280274645
Why is he so gay?
Anonymous No.280303297 [Report] >>280313686
>>280297014
They didn't even consider checking out that place to begin with, no way they'd be able to realize that the outer wall of the chimney is slightly too bulky for the size inside.
He'd just hide the bodies inside, close the wall again and wait.
Anonymous No.280304550 [Report]
>>280301105
He's into ryona.
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Soon
Anonymous No.280308322 [Report]
She could have taken care of all of this.
Anonymous No.280310346 [Report]
SOON
Anonymous No.280310755 [Report] >>280310810 >>280310905 >>280311466 >>280311566 >>280311594 >>280318727 >>280321912
Chapter 19
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What a revealing cover
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>>280310755
Obviously a fakeout.
Good men like Wolfram never get punished!
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>>280310755
Hello OP
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>>280310905
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5srEVMgCVU0
Hope you have a nice day
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>>280310894
I like that Wolfram can actually fight
All the layers of defence in the world won't mean anything with an enemy before you
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>>280212699
he gonna be ok?
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Anonymous No.280311212 [Report] >>280315625 >>280321983
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>>280310894
I know it looks cool but I wonder how accurate that stance is
Anyone that knows anything about how knife fights go will tell you that even a trained unarmed man will lose against a man with a knife 90% of the time. Like, why is he backing up and not just continually lunging at him?

Maybe he is just fucking with him, it IS Wolfram...
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>>280274708
fancy
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>>280310755
Fuckin' spoilers man.
Anonymous No.280311478 [Report] >>280311510 >>280311683 >>280311726 >>280312089 >>280312384 >>280312684 >>280313229 >>280315699 >>280316656 >>280319786 >>280322019 >>280322038 >>280323985 >>280329180 >>280331535
And that's it for today
Three full volumes of Wolfram torture incoming....

What do you think will happen to him?
No doubt they will show him mercy

Thank you for reading
Previous chapter: >>280273949
Anonymous No.280311484 [Report]
>>280311165
nani
Anonymous No.280311510 [Report]
>>280311478
I always love sudden chapters with little to no dialogue
Anyway thanks OP
Every single torture he did in sequence
Anonymous No.280311566 [Report]
>>280310755
That's a good cover.
Anonymous No.280311594 [Report]
>>280310755
YES
Anonymous No.280311683 [Report]
>>280311478
Thanks OP. Just a good knee to the teeth was pretty satisfying to see.
Anonymous No.280311726 [Report]
>>280311478
give him the griffith special
Anonymous No.280312089 [Report]
>>280311478
I think he'll say he's sorry and join the good guy's side against the Austrians
Anonymous No.280312340 [Report]
>>280310995
>>280311372
The body is still warm Waltuh! Have at it!
Anonymous No.280312384 [Report] >>280315835
>>280311478
Surely Walter will understand if they torture Wolfram they'll be as bad as he is.
Anonymous No.280312684 [Report]
>>280311478
Ladies and gentlemen, we got him
A stern talking to at least
Thanks OP
Anonymous No.280313229 [Report]
>>280311478
>Three full volumes of Wolfram torture incoming....
Holy based.
Thanks as always, and see you tomorrow.
Anonymous No.280313255 [Report]
>>280311393
First time I read this page I thought he was gonna just gut Wolfram here on the spot but the reeeee on the next based is just as based
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>>280303297
>>280297097
>>280297014
>>280274759
You would think everyone would get suspicious if they were to disappear like that.
Anonymous No.280315225 [Report]
>>280311348
Not so smug any more.
Anonymous No.280315625 [Report]
>>280311199
>>280311212
>fucking dex build
>how do you like some STR based Grapple
Anonymous No.280315699 [Report] >>280315835
>>280311478
I wonder if they'lll go the Druckmann route and understand that revenge only perpetuates a pointless cycle of violence and that the best thing to do is let him free and break the cycle.
Anonymous No.280315835 [Report]
>>280312384
>>280315699
They've been butchering the henchmen this whole time, anon. They're not Marvel characters
Anonymous No.280316415 [Report]
>>280274645
>live like a slut,die like a slut. penetrated by some guy
Anonymous No.280316656 [Report]
>>280311245
exploitable middle panels. banner material maybe?

>>280311478
>Three full volumes of Wolfram torture incoming....
i think it's gonna be neat if we're gonna get chapter names like the previous ones but this time it's "wolfram and [insert torture device here]"
>chapter 20: wolfram and the sretching rack
>chapter 21: wolfram and the iron maiden
>>chapter 22: wolfram and the breaking wheel
>etc
Anonymous No.280316794 [Report]
A shame that he can't be killed more than once
Anonymous No.280317221 [Report]
>>280310974
There's that smile we know and love
Anonymous No.280317551 [Report] >>280322057
>>280224912
Wolfram tends to do things more for shits and giggles and to crush hope instead of focusing solely on efficiency
Anonymous No.280318425 [Report]
>there's anons who don't know what happens to Wolfram....
Godspeed Folks, it's probably the most sickened I've ever felt reading manga.
Anonymous No.280318727 [Report]
>>280310755
KEK
Anonymous No.280319443 [Report] >>280324980
>>280311245
>>280311265
>Suddenly, shounen powerup
ASSPULL!
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>>280311478
Thx mate.
Anonymous No.280320552 [Report] >>280320773
why is everyone in Switzerland a DEXfag
Anonymous No.280320773 [Report]
>>280320552
STRfag died in the meat grinder and the knight buff dude lost to a group Grapple attack.
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>>280310755
c-clearly autoerotic asphixiation...
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>>280311121
that's the kind of injury that could leave you without use of your hand forever
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>>280311212
I call bullshit!
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>>280311265
>no slut innkeeper
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>>280310848
Maybe they shouldn't have been given such similar hair
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>>280311478
slightly wolflike shadow
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>>280311478
Walter got a shonen powerup, so now he's gonna talk no jutsu wolfram, and he'll become his new best friend and rival
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>>280317551
It gets boring up there in the mountains...
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>>280311478
Thank you for posting.
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>>280322057
kek
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>>280319443
Power of Friendship is very tame of an asspull compared to what the Wolf has done in this series.
Anonymous No.280326138 [Report]
>>280324980
I might argue there's a difference between
>I fight for my friends!
>If I don't win my friends' deaths will be in vain, all our struggles forgotten, evil will populate the land, and this twink will continue to get his jollies shoving icicles up peasants' asses
Anonymous No.280326239 [Report] >>280326374
>>280311411
So all he had to do was scream really loud?
Anonymous No.280326374 [Report] >>280327783
>>280326239
They should have screamed that they had found a hidden passage and were searching for it.
Anonymous No.280327783 [Report]
>>280326374
As someone else said, if they were being careful and taking their time (there wasnt an imminent rush after all) they could have smoked the room out to be safe
Anonymous No.280328059 [Report] >>280328109 >>280338167
>>280324980
Power of friendship is in a different demographic than outplaying your enemies.
Anonymous No.280328109 [Report] >>280328621
>>280328059
there's 'outplaying' and then there's *teleports behind you*
Anonymous No.280328621 [Report] >>280328765
>>280328109
But Wolfram doesn't teleport. He commends others to do it instead.
Anonymous No.280328627 [Report]
>>280311165
Wait so the daggers did go into his back
Why not go for the neck?
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>>280283966
And that can be illustrated more by having it translated. Context-relevant SFX should especially be translated.
Anonymous No.280328765 [Report] >>280328920 >>280328979
>>280328621
he showed up in the middle of the mountains across two huge ravines travelling with an entourage of fully armed and armoured soldiers and caught up to the most skilled pair of mountaineers in the country who had a head start
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>>280328765
>what is infrastructure
Clearly the garrison isn't making grand expeditions just to resupply those remote outposts anon. You also have to remember that skirting around a perimeter takes a hell of a lot more time than taking a direct path.
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>>280328765
Counterpoint: Regular mountain path
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>>280311478
Big kino incoming
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>>280260430
>>280264110
We have now arrived at THAT chapter.
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>>280311478
>What do you think will happen to him?
I'm not sure but it'll probably take a while. Either that or they barter him for something greater.
Anonymous No.280332707 [Report] >>280334488 >>280335165
Thanks for reading everyone
Anonymous No.280334488 [Report]
>>280332707
Good afternoon, OP.
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>>280332707
Morning OP
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>>280330168
Oh boy!
Anonymous No.280337532 [Report] >>280343072
The next chapter will be in a new thread
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>>280328059
>O MY FRAGILE MOUNTAIN ROCKS CRUMBLING TO BALLISTA SHOTS
Come on now, anon.
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>>280223716
>>280225968
yeah this is home alone shit
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>>280311286
NOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOO YOU FUCKING SWISS BASTARD NOOOOOOO
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>>280338167
He hired a geologist beforehand.
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>>280337532
very cute kisa
>>280342926
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>>280212279 (OP)
based