I can't believe the Homework Arc only took five years to finish.

It was great and praying the combat part will also deliver.

>>280219234 (OP)
Mikumo better not get taken out fucking instantly during phase two i need my foureyes active on the battlefield.

>>280219343
I can see him getting sniped, but this time it'll be through a tree.

>>280219234 (OP)
Now 5 years of combat sims.

>>280219474
This entire second phase could end within two volumes depending on what happens.

>>280219474
Sounds like heaven.

>>280219474
>inb4 it won't be offscreen'd and proceed to another exam for preparing the real journey to neighborhood

>>280219343
its fine he can just respawn in like 2 hours, in fact I'm pretty sure Osamu will die at least twice during this.

>>280219743
thats about 300 points to the A-rankers...

>>280219769
242

Katori, Osamu biggest tsun.

Thank you for making a better thread than I did, I don't know what I was thinking with that OP

>>280219852
It seems like it was only yesterday that Osamu put her on his shit list.

>>280219814
>two Mikumos is nearly half a terminal
he may aswell hide behind one and hope for the best.

>>280219874
Did you put the title of the series in the OP? Because I checked the catalog and a thread didn't turn up in the search.

>>280219907
if the place is nuked, Terminal-san will survive, Osamu however, will not.

>>280219234 (OP)
Damn. I actually missed the thread this time. Didn't expect it to be that fast. Sigh.

>>280219989
I suspect we will have quite a few stragglers like you since the thread went by in a flash, maybe someone wants to redump the chapters?

>>280219936
Nevermind I see it now kek

>>280219989
Yeah, it went on pretty fast >>280205083

>>280219936

>>280219517

>>280220065
i want to give this child soldier a hamburger.

>Second phase is about to start
>Shows everyone prepping for the spawn
>Cuts to the Galopoula group instead

>>280219551
Two years to complete a one and a half day trial sounds about right.

>>280220099
A triple double?!
Both your post and the burger you should get him?

>>280219989
This is the biggest happening since the Jacksonpocalypse. People have been chomping at the bit for classic trigger action and it was teased so hard that I could almost taste it.

>>280205083
B ranks are just fucked. T1, Tachikawa squad, Kako, Toma, teleports, spotters and a Rindo on top. Its not a test its a public execution.

>>280220551
Don't underestimate the power of leafs and the Ninomiya meme team.

>>280219769
The rules say you need to defeat members of the opposing team to get points. Friendly fire might not count.

>>280219234 (OP)
>missed the dump thread
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>280220608
T1 is basically the rake and now they even have Rindo. its omega over.
Now what I really want to know is what kind of area will they fight in. Will it be the forest? a city? just random hills? this will dictate the mood of the whole event. If the day to night cycle is there, it is going to be pure kino.

>>280219234 (OP)
Listen,
Mikumo, Katori, and Kitora teams up.

>>280221118
Don't forget Yuma.

>>280221101
The forest stage is the only arena that's been teased but never used yet, so it has to be that. Simulating an unknown neighbor world with Meeden buildings wouldn't feel right.

>>280221152
>wire zones in a forest
Jesus christ how horrifying

>>280221189
don't forget about Urushimas hiding in the trees.

>>280221118
How will Kitora react to Osamu setting a date between Karasuma and Katori?

>>280221145
>Kuga never feels cornered because there's wire everywhere
Hm, do you think they made secret signs for traps Mikumo set so Kuga could use them??

>>280221209
sabotage

I came so hard when the replacement agents scene came up. Like holy.

>>280221257
If Katori could do it on the first try Yuma should be able to, at this point he should have excessive training on spiderweb traversing. plus I think trap vision should be shared between the squads on the same side, doesn't make sense not to.

>>280221364
Same

>40v55
How many years will this take?

>>280221573
a few

>>280221573
Because it's not individual matches, we can gloss over unimportant confrontations, only showing the ones that develop important character beats, plot points, and foreshadowing. I think it should take less time than rank wars.

>>280221573
It's the biggest fight since the invasion, but it's also ONE fight so shouldn't be as long as rank wars.
Though now that I think about it this might be bigger than the invasion since it involves more named characters/we know them better than we did back then.

>>280221573
two and a half volumes so basically three years.

I'm very brain dead due to my 5 small children and also lazy. Can someone tell me what the personnel count for each side is?

>>280222093
>>280221573

>>280221209
>>280221279
>3 years of SoL romcom arc where Osamu and co are setting up Karasuma & Katori date, while Kitora and the Karasuma Faction try to sabotage it

>>280222144
Still curious why Karasuma joined the most political branch.

>>280222401
I remember it was stated he went to Tamakoma because he'd have more time to do part-time jobs

>>280222144
beware, spoilers.
>Katori joins T2 as an "operator" and flies on the away mission
>Karasuma genuinely confesses to Konami but she doesn't believe him
>Kitora witnesses the confession live and prefers to live in delusions instead
>Yuta vows to become good enough to score one of the K*tor*s and goes on a journey to become the supreme all rounder
>Jackson continues to simp after Hana unaware of things happening under his nose
>Hana becomes the captain of Hana squad and marks Kusakabe as her target
>Emma fails to confess to Chika
>Chika's harem grows

>>280222120
I apologize for my failures as a person

>>280221640
It's Ashihara, he's gonna want to give everyone some kind of spotlight.

Considering the following:
A trion "soldier" with one shot of meteor + lead bullet. Carried by an agent with teleporter.
Who needs to beat A-rank aces when you turn them into lead statues on sight?

>>280219234 (OP)
>Missed the 500 point to gryffindor

>>280222901
450.

>>280219234 (OP)
It's so over for her...

>>280219234 (OP)
Oh thank god, I can actually read the manga again.
It was interesting at first, but this shit dragged on so long and its been boring as a motherfucker. I don't even read the chapters now. I just flip through the pages once to get a gist.

>>280222901
FIVE BILLION POINTS TO GRYFFINDOR

How is it looking for our heroes, lads?

>>280221573
Wait a minute. It only adds up to 40 if Tamakoma-1 includes Jin. How the fuck is this even fair?

>>280223104
It isn't

>>280223104
Do you think Canadians will play fair in their own turf? Not to mention the possibility of encountering bullshit Black Trigger.

>>280219343
Getting taken out instantly is going to be the master plan that saves the day.

>>280222977
there is no recovery from this, Cuteori is done for

>>280223104
>fair
>Rindo against b-scrubs
they are not testing them, they are giving them a tough love lesson

Ninomiya shields Chika as she bombs the field.

>>280223462
They are testing them. They just don’t particularly care if the B-rankers can possibly win, they just want to collect data on their performance.

A few figures -

Total points possible for killing all of the test takers in one go before any of them have time to respawn:
>4418
>~80.33 per agent on average
>Terminals are worth ~6.22 kills

Total points possible for killing all of the A rankers in one go before any of them have time to respawn:
>4930*
>123.25 per agent on average
>Terminals are worth ~4.06 kills
*Kusakabe squad's operator is their captain. I chose to only value her at the standard 200 for a captain, not adding her 120 operator value. Tamakoma 1/A0 has two listed operators; I am assuming only one of them will be participating in this exercise.

Manpower ratio:
>~1.38 test takers per A ranker
Average kill value ratio:
>~1.54 A rank points per test taker point

Test taker combatants per operator:
>~4
A rank combatants per operator:
>~3.44

Total test taker Trion soldier budget:
>129615
Total A rank Trion soldier budget:
>108000
>~1.20 test taker soldier creation points per A rank point

I would be interested to see the average Trion rating for each side, but I'm definitely not going through character profiles to add them up - I don't think everyone has their stats listed, anyway.
Discussion question for the thread -
As the test takers, how would you prioritize attacking the following?
>Strongest opponents
>Weakest opponents
>Captains
>Operators
>Terminals

>>280223104
>how is this even fair
examinees have custom trion soldiers, leaving room for surprises
numbers advantage.
Another thing to note is that while both sides are familiar with each other skillsets, the examinees having shuffled teams give them chances to show new strengths in teamwork while the A rank squads will be using the setups they're used too (outside of the 4 replacement units)
The replacement units, despite all being more powerful (except maybe Raizo), could potentially disrupt their teams because of them not being used to their new teammates. During the Large Scale Invasion, Kazama notes how coordination between attackers is crucial, and here he is with 2 teammates that he probably isn't too used to.
It's still going to be absolute chaos, but I don't think that the provisional squads are completely and utterly screwed here.

>>280221640
He did that for the spreadsheet arc and it still took forever.

>>280222881
It's either going to be a one and done trion soldier like Osamu's cheese snipers or something that costs an ungodly amount of points.

There's a lot of room for potential bullshit. Trion soldiers that look like the laptops, burrowing shenanigans if the Terminals aren't shielded on their undersides, Osamu abusing the fact that he respawns super quick compared to everyone else (especially if there's no penalty for suicide/teamkills)
Also Trion mounts are absolutely happening and Chika on a flying sniping platform (or inside a tank) sounds terrifying

>>280223104
Warefare is rarely ever symmetric in real life anon. Be thankful they're not into Kobayashi Maru tests.

>>280222881
Stopping them from respawning by not killing them in favor of just gluing them to the floor and then taking out the terminals would be really funny.

>>280225765
>Trion soldiers that look like the laptops
Trion Soldiers that look like agents

>>280223072
>Katori is worth 13 whole points

>leave laptop at base/guarded by other people
>you're basically invincible and can go around shooting people alone
Isn't this possible?

>>280225811
The faceless mobs tactic!

>>280225815
>hfw they run into someone like tachikawa and he says "nah don't bother, she's barely worth anything"

>>280225815
She's the ultimate distraction. Strong enough to do serious damage if left unchecked, but with basically no reward for actually stopping her, especially if she manages to trade with someone.

>>280222549
>underpaid one of your strongest agent so much that he had to take a part time job
damn Kido just gave the kid some money, Border probably spend a fortune on energy for some random ass rank C simulator daily, you can spare the dough

>>280225928
With the potential to copy your tricks if left alone.

>>280221385
Do you think we're gonna get Canadian vs Canadian combat?

>>280225987
Who wouldn't want an Uncle vs Nephew duel?

>>280225825
Ignoring the your team has no operator problem, yes but no. Most operators have basically no trion and have no combat experience. So hypothetically even if they ran out and shot people, they would be bad at it, and there weapons/bullets could still get shotdown.

>>280226024
>hey hyuse, he's your uncle, do you know anything about him?
>no

>>280226042
>Canadians just tend not to be close with their uncles. There's too much risk of fights breaking out so we don't hang around too often.

>>280223104
The B-ranks don't need to win, they just need to have a good performance to see who ends up going. Plus with Jin being Jin he might just let things happen without letting his team know.
>>280224276
A-rankers get more bang for their buck just by prioritizing Terminals (5 agent kills are an average of 400 points while 1 Terminal is 500) so they're more likely to go on the offensive rather than hang back and wait. B-rankers would do better playing defensively, going in larger groups to overwhelm the A-rankers when they engage, and having stray agents ninja the terminals when possible.
>>280225825
The laptop IS their body, they probably can't have it off their person.
I'm willing to bet Border didn't make indestructible bodies, rather they programmed all the Triggers to simply deal no damage to them. As such any weapons the Operators use will likely have the same effect on everyone else so they can't contribute in combat.

>>280226042
>Canadians have a strict code of honor to never reveal each other's weaknesses

>>280220131
>they're also doing an exam

>>280224116
>they just want to collect data
Since when did Border become Google

>>280224276
Do terminals respawn?
What happened if a team destroys all enemies' terminals?

>>280226026
Are the roles predetermined?
Can we change agents' roles before the match?
Imagine Kuga or Hyuse as operators.

Did we ever get any hint why Kitora and Kikuchi were even put on the B-ranker side? I get Utagawa and Kodera since they want to test them as captains, but what about these two?

>>280222977
My man Osamu has GOT to get better love interest options than these caustic tsunderes.

>>280225815
We're going to get another tsundere Katori moment where she tanks a hit for Osamu

>>280223104
They're going on a mission where they will potentially be fighting against an entire nation on their turf. The test should be unfair.

What kind of Trion soldier would you create for this kind of warfare?
Personally I would create something like a big enough, heavy armored earthworm and try to steal the terminal from the ground.

>>280226913
maximum war crimes
Small, maybe microscopic trion soldiers you can coat your weapon with made with the express purpose of keeping wounds open so your enemy will bleed out. Can also serve as a way to continue tracking whoever they are on.

>>280226619
Most likely they filled in so they could have 5-people teams

>>280226982
I was thinking of spreading a tiny airborne one for intel but the coating weapon idea is pretty neat.

Remind me but there was a trigger that worked like a long-distance teleport mentioned in the databook right? I suspect that the engineers are going to get up to some crazy shit.

>>280224276
>As the test takers, how would you prioritize attacking the following?
Prioritize terminals. Go after some of the weaker opponents and operators if you can. Avoid heavy hitters as much as possible; they're not worth any more points for being stronger.
The only advantage the B ranks have is numbers, both agents and probably trion soldiers depending on how they budget them. That means the A ranks will have a harder time being everywhere a once to defend their terminals while still going after the B ranks' terminals. They're going to have to leave some of them with little to no defenses, which are free points. And depending on which ones you hit first, you can make subsequent ones harder to defend. This also means the B ranks have even less room to take losses in unnecessary engagements. If they wind up outnumbered by the A ranks they've effectively lost.
The B ranks also need to realize that they are in a race against the clock. There are enough overwhelmingly powerful agents on the A rank side that they can put together at least one crew that can brute force their way through anything the B ranks throw at them and just march their way through taking out terminals one by one. The only way to deal with that is to destroy the A ranks' terminals even faster.

>>280226982
>maximum war crimes
A Trion soldier that disguises itself as water and anybody who drinks it gets dissolved from the inside to be used as a puppet.
A Trion soldier that manipulates bioelectricity to shut off senses, inflict chronic pain or turn off a person's memory.
A Trion "soldier" (that is really more of an autonomous Trion soldier factory) that has people shoved into it Axolotl Tank-style as batteries to produce Trion weapons and Trion soldiers.

>>280226913
>osamu-rads equipped with spider
>meteora mine layers
>pitfall digger that just wanders the battlefield digging perfectly ordinary pitfalls
Basically make the goal to be a nuisance and distract people from the more serious threats, then mix some more dangerous versions in to keep people on their toes.

>>280226913
Terror drones. Swarms of fast, cheap little spiders to either latch on to enemy agents and trion soldiers to cut them up or onto terminals to chew up their shields.

Which unexplored A-Rankers are you guys looking forward to seeing the most?

>>280227743
the team that has the operator captain

>>280227743
Double raygust guy. Number 1 gunner guy.

>>280226913
Decoy terminals and agents that violently explode when destroyed. Remember they said only melee units have any hope of damaging terminals enough to take them out?

>>280227286
That's black trigger tier shenanigans, a trion soldier like this would be ridiculously expensive.

>>280223104
Most real life war games are extremely unfair, and you're expected to lose.

>>280228033
And in typical Black Trigger fashion, you only need one of each, so it should be worth it. Meeden could totally construct multiple of those nuke-style if they get states across the world to cooperate on the task (emphasis on "if", but World Trigger is not that kind of story anyhow).

>>280219474
yes, please.

I am confused, does this mean taking out Mikumo is 450 points?

>>280228482
No. The points that matter for this battle phase are the ones awarded by the A rank evaluations. The ones Suwa gave him are different.

>>280228563
Thanks

Oji have been fucking jobbing since the beginning, why is he always glazed?

>>280223072
How the fuck did Suwa get so many points?

>>280228616
btw, these are the points that matter >>280223072. They were close to finished giving out points then, so they'll be close to that but not exactly the same.

>>280228633
I mean he's near the top of B rank. But in theory he's going to do something in this battle.

>>280221118
they don't need Kitora

>>280225970
>border tells the public they mainly recruit schoolkids due to a higher potential for trion development
>it's actually so they can skirt labor laws and get away with paying below minimum wage

>>280220551
Seeing the trapper in action on such a wide scale map should be awesome.

>>280229549
More like seeing the trapper ever. Only time we've seen it so far is to help out during the invasions.

>>280222977
She's never beating the cute allegations

>>280227743
The other Canadian.

>>280226769
Don't worry, believe in Mira.

>>280226913
Hyuse's flying death machine that can do bombing runs. Squads have to be grouped around their operators and terminals so air strikes should be effective. The map also looks to have no buildings so they can't just hide in one for cover.

Rurouni Kenshin 30th Anniversary Tribute by Ashihara

>>280227940
Kazuma fighting Ninomiya or Yuba would be great.

>>280219474
But anon... the whole manga is combat sims!

>>280219234 (OP)
> the agents that got the least amount points (and thus probably the most antisocial and uncooperative) are the most valuable ones in phase 2 since they can die and respawn repeatedly without negatively affecting the team much
great idea from managment desu, a way to incentivise people like katori to be included in strategies and forced into teamwork by the captains since they are probably the most useful units in the second phase.

>>280226769
He's got the best one. His future management position.

>>280219234 (OP)
Place your bets, how many years will this one battle take to finish?
I could see it lasting even longer than the homework arc.

>>280223104
>how is this fair
B.rank bros have a few adventages going for them
>15 more agents
>more trion soldiers
>also trion soldiers are not limited ot be the standard ones so wild shit is only aviable to b rank team
>most b rank agents give out less points in death
>some b rank agents will give almost no points (katori, urushima, ema, wakamura, etc.) meaning they are almost free to do whatever risky strategy they want with close to no consequence for failure
overall A-Rank has the strongest traditional force but they'll be forced to play more defensively since any mistake they suffer will seriously cost them points wise, while B-rank is more free to utilize wilder and riskier strategies both by having more tools aviable and agents that will give out less points in death.

>>280222977
I want to rape her.

>>280230004
10 years. Take it or leave it.

>>280230113
>>more trion soldiers
>>also trion soldiers are not limited ot be the standard ones so wild shit is only aviable to b rank team
These are absolute game changers, but they've gotten them really late. They only have until tomorrow to work on them and I feel like Osamu, Taichi, Hyuse, etc. could've come up with some really great soldiers if they had a week instead of a few hours. I imagine there will be some crazy stuff, but it's still really short notice.

>>280224276
I'd maximize kill chance using cheese strats. Custom trion soldiers gives lots of chances to surprise.
Some terminals should be designed as kill zones/traps and not defended in the normal sense. Defending all 11 terminals just sounds like a losing strat.

>>280226913
>Suicide recon drones that fire Meteors continuously after loss of recon function
>Small quick flight units that sets up Spider strings for cheap trap deterrence and route shaping
>Mobile flight platforms with a grid of Escudos on top and on its belly to carry units and bluff with
>A large moving bridge that can spring flip up it's top layer into a wall instantly
>Hovering orbs that deploy Raygusts as battering rams and makeshift platforms

chances of Tachi or Mikumo making a Trion Solider that is just a power suit/mech to get into?

>>280226042
>Canadians never reveal their secrets
>Specially not to other canadians

>>280226913
Air and underground soldiers are a good surprise. But I bet there's a new "battery" stat like the operators' laptops.
No battery stat? Fill the sky and ground with cheap decoys. Hard to snipe underground, so maybe radars and jammers too.
Needs someone good at engineering tho. Imagine making 20 scorpion drill bots but the AI/drill doesn't work.

>>280226619
I think the implication is that both want to go on the away mission, but the rest of their team doesn't.

>>280226619
They both have personality problems so I'd wager that was part of it.

>>280226913
Jammer around a terminal + trion soldier mines. Hound or meteor. Doesn't need to kill: taking an A-ranker's foot is enough.

>>280226913
The chair.

>>280231100
>I sure could use a rest right now.
>But why does this chair show up on radar?

>>280231100
>>280231130

>>280231130
I wouldn't worry about it.

I know the chapter says that they will use their typical triggers, but I want to see Uma`s black trigger again so badly. Long-term battle against A-rankers should be the best place to utilize it.

Who have we actually not seen fight yet that will this chapter?
Half the A rank squads and Urushima, is that it? I guess the border staff too

I genuinely believe that Wakamura will leave the Katori Squad and it will end up being disbanded. Katori will join Tamakoma 2 replacing Hyuse once he leaves, and Hana will come along with her replacing Shiori (who will go back to being T1 operator).
Miura will join some other team as 4th member.

>>280226913
>personal-jammer backpack-drones, so agents can save on their bagworm trion
>tomahawk-spam bombing air units with tons of armor
>burrowing, scorpion-mines

Fujin seems like the worst black trigger by far. The only time it reaches the others is when Jin uses it and even that's only because he happens to have a side effect that pairs perfectly with it.

>>280224276
Make an army of cheap suicide trion soldiers.
Zerg rush to the terminals.
Have Chika spam Meteor on the terminals while Ninomiya uses Asterois against the ones who are trying to leave the Area.
Shitters like Osamu using double Raygust to act as human shield for Chika.
Using Katori as the powerful cheap unit she is.
Release Ikoma to do whatever he wants to do, this motherfucker will score the most points when he is having fun.

>>280231100

>>280226479
If that were possible, Osamu should swap as an operator.

>>280231483
Maybe he will use it if there's an attack from another neighbor country in the middle of the test.

>>280231887
>not Wakamura joining T2 so he could learn strategy from Mikumo up close

>>280232250
Half-agree but it's still bullshit

Multi-melee attacks that can curve and reach better than Senku Kogetsu, even without future sight, is still stupidly good

>>280231887
Katori will replace Kuga once he dies, she's pretty much Kuga-lite with a bitchier personality, Hyuse will migrate to Meeden with his master and stay in T-2

>>280231887
Wouldn't Miura follow Katori considering his crush.

>>280232250
Being less flashy and powerful than other Black Triggers is a fair price to pay for infinite range.

>>280232250
The worst aspect is that it has no defensive ability unlike every other black trigger aside from blocking like a Kogetsu. Without future sight from Jin you'd be easily killed by a single sniper

>>280232825
A black trigger is still a black trigger after all.

>>280226913
Small gunners designed to spam wires plus a single shot point blank meteor as a suicide attack.

>>280224276
If they don't take out the strongest, they are dead. Someone like Konami or Tachikawa can slice their way through 3-5 teams in an instant. Whatever the fuck Rindo could do is another question and depending on the answer he is the real Time Limit on the event and the 36 hours thing should be discarded.
Regardless the 36 hour limit lies and is there to lull the B-rank(Bs) into thinking this is positional warfare and not a rape dungeon.
A lot will depend on the terrain and the size of the map. If it takes A-rank(As) an hour or less to run from one edge of the map to another, it’s a raid and As will first kill everyone they can & then methodically blow up all terminals in under 5 hours. The difference in mobility and firepower will prevent any and all maneuvers insuring complete eradication of Bs bases and an early win.
If the map is large enough for As to slow down it’s an area conquest and some minor back and forth is possible.
As are greatly favored, or rather have several conditions that insure their victory if they just perform within their usual specs. Them being - top 2 A squads are a rough equivalent to the entire Bs army & terminal destruction is geared towards Attackers - As have an overwhelming advantage in this area, while Bs hold the edge in ranged combat which this challenge actively discriminates against by making objectives nearly immune to range fire.
I think the correct approach for Bs is to treat this like a genuine battle with serious stakes and limited personnel, without taking in account respawn as most won't get to if As snowball. No complex strategies but rather a general approach & micromanagement from the field commander as situation on the ground changes, all while trying to preserve the range supremacy and exploit any opportunity that arises. Big mood is layered defense; you want to extend the engagement time by giving up strategically irrelevant terminals and corralling the enemy into artillery/fire pockets.
1/2

>>280224276
In this scenario B-units are on average dramatically inferior and depending on the enemy will decisively lose 2 on 1 or in some cases 5 on 1. Depending on the map this makes the situation downright catastrophic.
What matters a lot is if they can scramble the squads and create combat efficient strike groups or if they are retarded and will go on with the shackles Border placed on them. For example Kage, Azuma, Urushima & Yuba is a completely different beast compared to Kakizaki.
Bs have 3 advantages.
Ninomiya's 14, Hyuse's 18 and Chika's 38.
All are equipped with long/super long range triggers. This gives Bs an overwhelming edge in any firefight as they can effectively use artillery strikes or just aim down the barrel and exterminate anyone who goes for artillery. A focused blast of 100~ trion might not evaporate the tanky Terminal-san but any humanoid caught in that without a BT is toast. The efficient artillery usage will be the deciding factor of how many hours Bs last. Getting 2-3 As teams evaporated in a collective autism spasm is one of the only ways for As to lose pace. Note not lose the match, lose the pace.
In order for Bs to have a winning chance, As need to make several consecutive big mistakes and lose all their most valuable assets. Rindo must go. T1 must go. Tachikawa squad must go. The As that specialize in counter sniper warfare and trappers must choose strategically irrelevant positions or outright refuse to setup.
If all these conditions are met Bs can turn the tide and perform an effective counterattack. LMAO
2/2

Isn't there a storytime happening soon? Is that going to be here or a new thread?

>>280232250
this thing can hit from another side of the city, operators effectively replace foresight and make aiming possible for anyone all without revealing your position. Fujin isn't bad by any means, just not stupidly broken like Borboros.

I think the big question everyone should be asking is
>How do we take the big threats (Tachikawa, Rindo, etc) out of the fight

My thought is you could have Trion Soldier decoy agents that throw up a mist of tiny Lead Bullets when attacked close-range. It'd be a small debuff, but even a bunch of tiny lead bullets is going to be a big disadvantage over 36 hours.
My other thought is set up a killing field with Spider to force enemies in, then mine it with burrowed Trion Soldiers as living mines that also throw up a more guided Lead Bullet cloud. Maybe even set up some Trion Soldiers disguised as bricks and shit in obvious places so if A-Rankers try to pick them up to block the Lead Bullet, the Trion Bricks explode in their hands as soon as they're picked up.
The only drawback I can think of is it might get expensive if you're Bagworming them all, but it does feel like the kind of crazy shit Osamu might try

>>280233497
I think people are overestimating them a bit. Ninomiya's full attack was considered unstoppable for anyone who isn't Izumi even in A-rank.
They're still mortal and the best of B-rank can take them on.

>>280228633
he will show his genius in the battle phase, trust the plan

>>280232825
Imagine Shinoda with Fujin

>>280233639
With how good his Senku is I actually think it would nerf him.

Haven't read World Trigger in years. Are the aliens so strong that humanity needs to train child soldiers?

when did that anon says he'll be dropping WT storytime again?

>>280232739
Tamakoma does not accept shitters, only the best. And Wakamura was outright told to go back to C rank wars to get his basics back in. I’m sure he will do so too.
>>280232838
>implying the face of the manga will actually die
>>280232850
No place for shitters in Tamakoma

>>280233733
Now, it seems.

>>280233593
I don't think there's anyone who can reliably beat Tachikawa 1 on 1, and he'll have backup from a squad dedicated to maximizing his potential
Terminals aren't going to hold up long against a guy who can casually Senku Ilgars in half

>>280233733
Right now. I was a little late because of the timer >>280233767

>>280232838
Will Katori melt for Osamu after he starts wearing contacts and Karasuma and Konami finally tie the knot?

>>280233593
Ninomiya and all shooters are also playing under a disadvantage
It's easier for Nino to go full attack Bullet Spam when he gets all his trion back in an hour or so. It's a little tougher when he has to conserve energy

>>280233803
I picture it as the B-ranks overcoming the insanely strong guys by outsmarting them rather than fighting blow for blow. Like how T2 beat Ninomiya even without Hyuse.
Also Kitora is the ace of the fifth ranked squad that is ranked lower than they should be because of their PR duties, Ninomiya's squad used to be ranked fourth and Kage's squad and Azuma are all currently smurfing. They should all have beaten Tachikawa's squad at least a few times over the years back in A-rank.
He can be killed.

>>280228633
Because he was introduced as a captain who could keep up and adapt to Osamu's tactics. Even if he ultimately lost the match he put up a good showing compared to Katori and Kakizaki, who in their defense had to experience the wire strat completely blind.

>>280233876
It's impossible for Nino of all people to respawn in an hour.

>>280233876
The point I was trying to get across was that Ninomiya, who was tough even for A-rankers, wasn't invincible. Some people are treating it like the A-rankers are in a completely different dimension from the away test takers and I disagree.

>>280232250
The trade off of it having super easy compatibility.

>>280234082
True, but they are strong enough to require a focused strategy to defeat while minimizing losses. Their Achilles heel is that everyone knows what they can do, aside from the Border Staff substitutes. They're not invincible, but it's going to take some big thinking to take them safely off the map. Even for 200 points, you don't want to have to fight Tachikawa 3-4 times if you don't have to

>>280233803
Tachikawa is certainly the strongest, but Hyuse managed to get one win off him in their first-to-5. He's not unbeatable, especially in a map like this with so many extra factors and so many moving pieces.

This some good discussion.

>>280234077
probably would take him 7-8 hours since one night of sleep does the full recovery

>>280234328
Hyuse won one with no triggers baseline Kogetsu no whirlwind and he only won on the first try when Tachikawa had no idea what he was dealing with, there is also a good chance that Tachikawa only used a single blade.
All in all that 1 in 5 isn't nowhere as impressive as it might look from the glance

>>280219234 (OP)
oh thank goodness, I missed the chapter dump thread

this made me fucking squeal like a teenage girl

Ashihara loves bitchy women just like me fr

so uh, I haven't been keeping track...

How fucking long did this take IRL?

>>280236309
Six or seven days for them, five years for us

Seething Kitora

>>280236498
wait for the date thing reveal, she will explode

wait what that was what it was, not a battle royale? That's terrifying

>>280233690
>>280233639

The skill to do pic related + what Fujin can do, especially range-wise, would be predictably completely cracked
I want to see it

bruh the practical/phase 2 test is fucking ruthless holy shit

I mean, I guess it makes sense given the Neighborhood is unpredictable and overwhelming but man, jesus christ
It's all really exciting. I wonder how long it'll take Ashihara. I feel like phase 1 only took so long because he really really REALLY wanted to get a lot of talking in

>>280236632
nope its Kaiju survival and a scripted loss mission on top of that

>>280237038
I think he also wanted to introduce a lot of the characters that hadn't had a lot of page time so he can have stories in the neighbourhood and on Earth during the away mission with nobody from Tamakoma or anyone else well known.
A ton of the random background characters got a lot this phase and have gained a lot of fans. Showcasing the characters personalities is harder during a fight than during psychological tests, so phase one was the place to do it.

good fucking god I wasn't expecting the end of the arc, and a briefing, to be so fucking HYPE

>>280236813
>mangapanda
I miss them

>>280233690
Can Fujin use senkuu?

>>280223104
it's not fair which is the best part

It's so obviously pushing for (not even, just almost) the worst case scenario for agents because the Neighborhood is ruthless and unforgiving. We got a casual glance at them ages ago with the Aftokrator invasion arc and the fuckers were casually wielding black triggers for what was, to them, a simple kidnapping mission where the real goal was to kill 1 guy and strand another. And that kind of thing is just...out there, always, in the Neighborhood. I bet if they'd shown Yuuma's reactions during this (aside from to Rindo) he'd have been like : ) whatever the whole time since he lived that experience for years.

>>280232250
Lampyris is better than Fujin.

>>280226769
it's what gets Ashihara going

>>280219234 (OP)
fuck i cant believe the thread went by so fast

also hyped for the old guard and canadian showing up in action

>>280225765
>Osamu abusing the fact that he respawns super quick compared to everyone else
Is this actually true? He has a low supply, but I'm not sure they've ever talked about his "refresh" rate. I always figured the time to replenish trion was fairly consistent (hence "losing" is such a big deal for anyone in a real fight)

>>280226619
Kitora would definitely be because she's an eternal go-getter.

Kikuchihara...maybe to help the B-Rankers out? He's an omegacunt but a helpful one

>>280238437
He has good taste.

>>280228659
1) He's closer in age to older Border agents such that he's friends with, or on a first name basis with some A-rank agents.
2) He did an impressive job of wrangling Katori.
3) Pretty decent job of commanding overall, knowing when to ask his team and when to just assign someone a task.
4) He got his team from last place to third, by being open to unorthodox suggestions that most other teams didn't come up with on their own, or couldn't otherwise replicate.

>>280231887
I would love for Katori to be a protagonist but that ain't happening and you know it

>>280233593
the problem is these god-kings are also not even close to alone

frankly, the existence of Tachikawa as an enemy at all is utterly horrifying. He can simply annihilate entire waves with one sword swing.

>>280226441
If you destroy all the terminals, you have over 5000 points and win.

>>280231029
Kikuchihara's part of Kazama squad. He's already been on away missions with them.

>>280234082
They're not invincible, but look what it took to take out Ninomiya. Chika had to pop her murder cherry just to clear out one of his supporting agents.
The cost of taking down even one of these heavy hitters in a conventional fight is simply so high as to be catostrophic. And if they work together, they could be all but invincible. If the B ranks want to kill them, they're going to have to get creative.

>>280226913
Spend all my points on a Trion AC-130 and hope the opfor didn't make any air units.

>>280226913
Oji's shoulder shooter idea.

>>280226403
Since the start of the away mission test. Remember, this isn't a "get first place in the test and you get to go on the away mission" test. It's Border re-evaluating it's agents, partially to see who is and isn't suitable for away missions. So the B-rank agents technically don't need to "win" the second phase. Win or lose, Border brass will be evaluating their performance and deciding who'd be good to add to the away mission. Winning just looks a lot better than losing hard and fast.

>>280224276
Having compiled this info, I feel the test takers' advantage in troops and Trion soldier budget aren't significant enough to mean almost anything especially in a long term combat environment where the opposing force has a higher proportion of trappers, who shine when they have setup time. With the vastly superior strength of the A ranks, I feel the best strategy is to avoid direct clashes wherever possible. Realistically, this needs to be their strategy in the neighborhood, where they're at even more of a disadvantage; here, they know the personnel difference, team composition, general tactic preferences, relative strengths, etc of their opponents; in the neighborhood, they won't. Plus, even though the test triggers might be different from what's normally used, they're still largely going to be Border tech, whereas outside of potentially limited Hyuse/Yuma/Eldoradd/away team info, they could run into trigger tech that's completely outside of anything they thought was possible. So, this test is good practice for that kind of danger, and could be viewed favorably by the administrators. It's also important to maintain whatever slim numerical advantage they have, as it means they have more distractions, eyes, and reactions available to given situations. Secondly, I think they should concentrate on having ranged fighters pick of enemy operators, as there's more of them on the opposing side, they're going to be easier targets, they're worth more, and most importantly, without their operators, the A ranks will have a harder time combating the guerilla tactics of the test takers. So, in general,
>Deny information by attacking operators
>Maximize points by utilizing swarm attacks on terminals,
>Maintain numerical advantage by scattering whenever overly strong opponents show up

>>280238502
Word of god outside series is it takes him one to two hours

>>280239420
>Having compiled this info, I feel the test takers' advantage in troops and Trion soldier budget aren't significant enough to mean almost anything especially in a long term combat environment where the opposing force has a higher proportion of trappers
I think as long as the test takers make flying bomber units they can avoid most of the traps. Traps also cost a lot of trion to make and use so wasting all that to kill some dogs will screw the A-ranks over in the long run and make them easy pickings.
There's also the fact that trion is so incredibly limited that having more trion soldiers allowing you to avoid combat entirely for longer is incredibly helpful. Anons in this thread are creaming themselves over Katori being such a cheap death, but trion soldiers are literally free fighters who the enemy gain nothing from killing besides wasting their own trion.
Depending on how they are used the trion soldiers might win the whole thing.

>>280239782
Have the trappers deploy super fast, possibly utilizing Trion soldiers as mobility aids, then have them kill themselves once they've depleted their Trion. If the test takers are cautious and the heavy hitter A ranks go on a blitz to give the trappers time to recover and return as reinforcements, it would work great.

The part where I show my whole ass: I have no memory of what the normal trapper load out looks like

>>280240303
I would be baffled if killing yourself doesn't give the same amount of points as the enemy killing you. It would be such an obvious loophole.

>>280232330
>army of cheap suicide trion soldiers
Yeah I'd do this and hide a few strong ones that look the same like they did earlier on. If somehow you could blend agents into the trion soldier mass that would be op as well. Maybe make a flying trion soldier with all points into health to serve as a floating platform for snipers.

Is Konami x Hyuse too much of a crack pairing

>>280233497
I guess the mine removal strats are:
#1. Trion soldier with meteor or hound.
#2. Trion soldier with armored legs.
#3. Agent with meteor or hound.
So a mined terminal forces a 2+ team of melee + ranged. Or an attacker loses a leg.

A trion mine equipped with scorpion might be the most cost effective, and no wasted ammo against #2.

>>280240362
Not necessarily. Killing yourself to replenish your trion should be leaving most agents out of action for a significant amount of time. Greatly limiting their involvement and ability to contribute. Likely trappers can't operate any of their traps while out, and can only get updates on the situation through text messages or phone calls. So instead of a bunch of traps that can be manually activated or modified as needed, it'd be a bunch of traps running fully automatic.

>>280240362
Yes, it denies the enemy points, but the respawn timer is way more of a punishment than you think. Being out for just a few hours is a significant detriment to your team. From the way the test is structured and the fact that operators are on the field, I'm assuming there's no way for people who are "out" to know what's going on with their squad or provide input themselves. When they get back, not only do you have to spend time regrouping, you also have to bring them back up to speed on battlefield developments. If they're tactically minded, you lost out on their brains for hours. If they're strong, you've had one less person babysitting your vital operator and responding to threats. Points from kills are nice, but they're nothing compared to taking the opponent's pieces off the board.

>>280240660
Not really. She is his tard wrangler.

>>280240673
>fly past mines on hover scooter

>>280239029
The A-Rankers have Toma. Unless you're beyond visual range, he can probably shoot it down.

Lead hound Ninomiya on a flying Trion soldier, both protected by a fixed shield Chika.

>>280222977

She is so cooked
>Osamu's mom is a super S-rank beauty, so in two years or so Osamu will probably have a gigachad glowup
>He is already high rank at handling women
>Naturally assertive

I can't believe Katori will have a teen mom arc

pls send food -ikoma

>>280241486
"We hungie - respectfully, of course"

BORDER: right-wing child soldier death squads operating behind enemy lines supported by killer dones

>>280241820
are "cope cages" viable in world trigger?

Am I the only one not convinced by him? His Squad ended Rank 14, one spot above the lower Bs. Kuga basically massacred two lower-B squads (#16 and 17 at the time) in his first go with new triggers in the Rank Wars.

This guy spends all season farming the lower B and then getting murked by the middle B to finish somewhere in the middle. And based on his set up, he's probably just jumping in at the end and gunning down the weaklings from a safe distance.

He and his operator got the A-rank points they deserved -- two complete frauds.

>>280239709
Which just goes to show how the respawn timer is going to be more punishing than the points. Imagine if someone catches Tachikawa with a lead bullet mine and he has to sudoku to be effective again. If we assume a similar ratio of trion to respawn time as Osamu, you're looking at 3 to 6 hours with no Tachikawa. That's huge and way more valuable than the 200 points you're not getting, assuming suicides and team kills deny points.

>>280242446
He is one guy and he is a gunner. If he doesn't score 2-3 points consistently or dies too much he drops into the shitter immediately. With that in mind he has to score as much as possible while surviving whiteout any support.
Everyone on the damn map knows this shithead is sneaking around and he has a reputation in the border. People do not like him. They would hunt him down every time the have a chance to. All this is amplified by the fact that his operator is a potato who would miss people disappearing on the radar to sneak attack him, sight lines and many other crucial bits that are usually necessary for normal battle.
Before Tamakoma-2 joined the scene and caused a clusterfuck at the top ranks Urushuma held a honorable rank 9 all by his lonesome. I'd say he could be anywhere from a really good masterclass gunner to a true a-rank equivalent.

>>280242454
The fact that bail out is specifically disabled means that suiciding definitely doesn't work.

so while all of the good snipers are trapped in this boat simulator is Izuho getting promoted to b-rank?

>>280243122
She's probably replacing Akane in Nasu squad.

What is Ashihara's art even inspired by?
Since this is such a unique style even for jump.

>>280242917
YuiGOD fucking STOMPS this FRAUD.

>>280242446
You're probably right in the context of rank wars. Yuma isn't even the only person who could solo his way through the lower B ranks. But I predict he's going to be more useful than normal in this battle sim, particularly when it comes to assassinating operators. Like you said, he probably specializes in picking off weaklings.
>>280243015
If you cut your own head off, you're going to bail out. They just can't do it without also destroying their trion body. It could be that voluntarily bailing out allows for a quicker recovery, so disallowing it is to prevent people from suicide charging a terminal without consequence.
The real question is how points work for suicides and team kills. I expect that they will deny points and that the respawn timer will be a sufficient deterrent in most cases. It would only really be advantageous to kill your own squadmates when they're right about to be taken out. Which just so happens to have been the case during the Aftokrator invasion too.

>>280243796
What I meant was that the simulation would act as if an enemy killed you if you killed yourself and give the other team points. Otherwise bailout may as well be on because it's the same shit at that point.

The girls need to be bred by me

>>280243693
Doraemon is definitely one of them.

>6 in range
>Higher than a shooter but less than a sniper
Rindo is a gunner.

>>280232250
Having your range restricted only by LoS while also being able to hit from multiple angles is already busted, it's like having a Sniper that shoots Viper bullets, except the Sniper is also a fully functional Kogetsu.
It's a relatively balanced Trigger, lacking the utility of Speiraskia/Vorvoros/Alektor or the raw power of Organon/Yuma's Trigger, but still has a solid chance of beating them in a fight.

>>280245452
All rounder surely, he uses a sword here >>280234034

>>280243693
When I first saw World Trigger, the first thing I thought of both visually and conceptually was Cencoroll, so maybe there's some Atsuya Uki in there even though Ashihara's art isn't as soft.

>>280245557
Oh yeah, all in old Border started with a sword.
Rindo vs Shinoda hype increases.

>>280245452
He's slotting in for Kodera, so he'll definitely start off as a sniper. I imagine that if someone gets too close he'll put out Kogetsu like Arafune. We'll have to wait and see, really.
If he's like T1 there's a chance he has his own experimental trigger.

>>280245452
the question is what type of gun does he use

>>280245452
Ninomiya has a 6 in range too.

>>280246152
But Nino has a particulary big trion reserve...

>>280232250
It’s my understanding that Fujin has an additional function that hasn’t been revealed to the reader yet. I thought this was implied during the fight against Tachikawa et al.

>>280245452
Judging by his stat spread that seems to be the case, however there is a good chance he has a Tamakoma trigger. calling him just a gunner is like calling Reiji a sniper.

>>280247201
What does good defence mean outside of having two shields and escudo equipped?

>>280243859
No, because part of the test is forcing the players to think outside the box and do things they're not normally comfortable with. You need grit, determination, and a little bit of craziness to survive in field operations, and we haven't in general seen people be willing to kill themselves or their teammates.

>>280247258
no idea how the stats work but it should be a mix of positioning, reaction speed, situational awareness & the raw ability necessary to intercept/block/avoid.
for example other 10s in defense are Reiji & Murakami.

>>280247347
Killing yourself is extremely easy for almost any agent. The only ones who would struggle are trappers or spotters as they might not have easy access to a trigger to do it. If you don't have access to regular bailout but all you have to do is stab or shoot yourself to gain the exact same advantage, you may as well still have bailout and the restriction would be completely pointless. They are all used to getting shot and cut apart from participating in Rank Wars, the psychological aspect shouldn't stop them at all.

>>280247483
I wonder. Katori needed less than a second to cut off her leg & Miura's arm, while Miura himself wasn't even considering the option and was just drooling with a lead block in his limb.

>>280247616
Lead Bullet is rare especially in B-rank and the instant someone realizes the loophole they can just tell the whole team so they don't have to figure it out on the spot.

So are we going to assume that the replacements are going to be good at combat? Feels like they would be out of shape.

>>280247744
The replacements are going to job to help out Osamu, you have Kronin and the chief of Tamakoma

>>280247744
>second shinoda
>shinoda's hand trained pet
>canadian royal guard
>enter to take control over trion soldier army
better than good. in fact inclusion of RIndo alone should be considered an act of war against the B-ranks.

>>280247201
He could be a perfect all-rounder like Reiji

>>280247744
>Feels like they would be out of shape.
They probably are. And yet they're still going to be tough to deal with.

Was exam arc around 50 chapters? If that is the case it would be around 1 year long if the author wasn't sick.

>>280248228
yup, 52-53 chapters for the phase one.

There might be multiple Viza tier opponents with black triggers in Canada, if anything Shinoda should join in to prepare them even further

>>280247744
Rindo, Michael, and Kyoko are going to be nuts.
Michael and Rindo have both experienced the neighborhood firsthand, and both are respected to hell and back by T1 who are already monsters.
Kyoko works with Shinoda, don't know if I need to say much more.
Raizo is a bit iffy, he's the only one that I can confidently say that's out of shape. But I don't think they would have picked him if he was extremely out of it.

Question do you think theres enough chapters to adapt another season of the anime?

>>280248439
almost definitely, but narratively? All of the homework arc is a build up for this upcoming fight. You'll want to end on it

>>280248327
Viza is wielding Afto's national treasure and is described by the voice of god as one of the most powerful characters in the entirety of WT. One of a kind monster and the entire border is lucky aging is a thing or they would have experienced a grim reminder.

>>280248511
Imagine ending on this chapter and phase2 is a well made movie

>>280248327
Have Amo pay them a visit too. They should be prepared for anything.

>>280248606
don't forget Jin with fujin

>>280248606
If Amo were to join in, I bet he'd be a third-party. First side to get him gets more points.

I need Raizo vs Osamu 1v1

>>280248735
the moment Chubby Thunder sees Osamu being dragged by the thruster, Osamu's fate is sealed.

>>280240673
Keep in mind every hound or meteor an agent throws is - their Trion gauge. Each bullet tossed trying to clear a mine is one less they can shoot at you.
Could be huge for mindgames

>Deploy bunch of Trion Soldiers to dig underground and show up on Radar
>They literally don't do anything, 10 points of cost just to live rent free in the back of your mind as you fight, because maybe they might be doing something bad to you and you don't know it

How about a flying suicide bomber trion soldier?
Have someone put a meteor on its head and ambush operator briefcases while the team is distracted. Should be quite cost effective too since it has no weapons.

Trion soldiers won't respawn, right? I hope the agents get to carry around their summoning pods like pokeballs so they can choose when to deploy them

>>280219234 (OP)
I must say, this has got to be one of the most inefficient and convoluted testing and ranking system I have ever seen in any of these fictional pseudo-military organizations you constantly see in Manga.
A lot of the things they train for don't seem like they'd actually be useful in actual combat against actual enemies.

>>280249652
Nah, the Demon Slayer Corps graduation exam is far dumber.

>"Go out into the woods and kill demons with no supervision."
>"What's this? 99% of the kids died again because the demons were just too strong? Oh well, I guess the survivors pass. Let's do the same thing next year."

>>280249534
That'd just be a dollar store Ilgar.

>>280249652
It's not really a testing and ranking system. This is the first time they've done this sort of test. The goal isn't to rank them, it's to evaluate who might do well on the expedition, and generally gather data to see if their normal ranking system is missing some people's talents.

Extremely slow, extremely tanky, high melee damage Trion soldiers sent toward all of the towers that either get points via taking them down, or by draining a shitton of enemy trion and making them easier to kill.

>>280250326
Chika will unleash her Yuma rabbit

>>280219234 (OP)
Jesus, is that how it felt to be stuck in the boat?

>>280249856
Ilgar is a heavy bomber, that would be more like a kamikaze.

>>280249652
Most of their training is fighting one another. Which is pretty reasonable given their purpose.
This specific test is way more meta. In addition to away mission suitability they're also evaluating for stuff like potential administrative ability.

>>280250882
Not to mention they're meta-analyzing their existing tests to develop something more suited to their growing organization

>>280250423
No, the XCOM arc was actually good.

>>280250437
Ilgar kamikaze as well, remember?
And thinking more on it, the Salamander combo of Meteor+Hound already does most of what that'd do as well.

How many B-ranks can deal with kamikaze Illgars?
Let's excluse Chika because that's fucking obvious
Even Kitora had trouble with one

>>280251429
Only one I can think of is Ninomiya if he used Meteor or Gimlet.

>>280251429
Tachikawa was easily cutting them down so maybe Ikoma can pull it off too, Hyusa can likely deal with them too

>>280251429
Ko, Hyuse, Ikoma, even Oji might do it but it would be close.

>>280251429
>Ikoma flying around on a Taichimobile sneku'ing down ilgars

>>280251429
In Kitora's case, it was more a compatibility issue probably. You could see similar issues when she was fighting a Rabbit; she's highly mobile and can chip away at tough targets while avoiding counterattacks, but her trigger set doesn't exactly give her good ways of quickly dispatching heavily armored targets, and Illgars are pretty sturdy.

>>280250423
The thing about the boat was the lack of releases, not the actual amount of page time spent on it. Reading it now, the boat doesn't last long at all. While WT has had long hiatuses and is now on a monthly-ish cadence, it's spent a good amount of time in the Excel Mines just in terms of actual pages, not just real world time.

>>280251429
Hard to say given that Kitora didn't know what she was doing, has low trion, and is geared more for anti-personnel than destroying large trion soldiers. Probably anyone who has an Ibis or a Kogetsu+whirlwind has a decent shot at taking one down, as do those with a Meteor.

>>280245714
Is this the guy who made an anime by himself

>>280246646
9 trion is huge, no?
How high is Nino's trion again

>>280247744
>Feels like they would be out of shape
Aren't they like, in their 20s?

>>280253260
Nino's is even bigger.

>>280253260
14 on Nino
18 on Hyuse
38 on Chiken
6 is pretty good.

>>280229843
aftokrator invasion was not.

>>280240723
At the same time it feels like the kind of thing that could lead to shit like
>azuma killstealing teammates whenever an A-rank is about to get them
or hell
>Azuma killstealing operator laptops whenever an A-rank is about to get one

>>280253347
>38
U sure she's not a neighbor

>>280249652
>Problem solving, resource allocation, conflict resolution, management style, household management, and information acquisition in a novel environment where you're sealed off for a long time from the conventional tools you'd use to solve your problems, the comforts of home, and normal levels of privacy and recharge time
>Resource management, point control, defense and offense, protection of essential non-combat-ready personnel, and emotional resiliency in a combat situation where you're severely outgunned by the enemy
>Discerning underlying objectives lying within simple orders and subsequently metagaming for success rather than attacking a problem with brute force and ignorance in an environment where clarification from leadership is non-existent
>On the fly creativity, emotional intelligence, and hard work demonstrating your usefulness resulting in a tangible score that justifies your enemies targeting you as useful, teaching you to be conscious of how you must prioritize protecting your units when respawning may not be an option

Yeah, basically nothing in this test seems useful to help administrators decide which inexperienced soldiers to send on an away mission where there will be limited resources, tight quarters, NO backup, and NO communication with HQ for an extended period of time. I don't see the point of taxing people who are going to get thrown into a team without getting to pick their mates like they've always done before with crazy overwhelming novel situations for a long period of time.

>>280254127
You don't think this is a good strategy on the battlefield, where instead of killing your teammates, the enemies might want to capture and torture them?

>>280254529
nope, just has perhaps the greatest trion gland in the world, maybe the entire neighborhood.
The fact that she's has a higher trion value than Aftokrators non Black Trigger users without any training is a bit disturbing.

>>280254902
Mother triggers for powerful nations are probably around the same tier as her.

>>280254127
That was optimal during Aftokrator's invasion.

>>280245893
>>280245452
Azuma was the first sniper, and he wasn't even in the old Border. It's a relatively new profession. I think Reiji is the only OG who can work as a sniper, and that's because Azuma taught him.

>>280247744
Shinoda is the most powerful non-BT user in Border. No reason to assume the rest aren't keeping up with their training.

I can't believe I missed the end of the spreadsheet arc.

>>280222977

>>280259301
Will Nasugods get their revenge in 15 years when there's another city invasion?

>>280256897
>Shinoda is the most powerful non-BT user in Border.
In HQ, not in Border.

>>280259301
>Nasu Rei
Heh.

How many A rank quality units are taking the test again?
>Actual A ranks: Kikuchihara, Utagawa, Kitora, Kodera
>Former A ranks: Ninomiya squad (3 people), Kageura squad (4 people), Azuma
>Aces: Murakami, Ikoma, Hyuse, Yuma, Yuba, Katori(?), Chika(?)
So they have ~18 units who can hold their own against A rankers. We could be generous and add in unknowns like Ouji and Teruya, so 20 A rank effectives.

Since there's no trion regen that implies people would naturally despawn once they expend their reserves right? So managing despawns is going to be a thing between food rationing and rationing combat power.

>>280250326
This is the best strat I think. Wasting enemy trion is the goal more than getting kills with the soldiers, which is never going to work on A ranks.

>>280254902
Isn't 38 not even its full majesty? I remember there being some line that it was so high that the scanner got maxed out at 38 and that the actual result was way higher.

>>280253378
That's what they want you to think.

>>280227743
Kasukabe since she's a rare operator-captain.

On another note wouldn't starmaker actually matter here? Knowing where tachikawa or other aces are is valuable Intel.

>>280250326
A ranks can't make instakill cheese or glass cannon snoipers but can they bomb it with the air units? I'm not sure what the performance is on the small air unit though.

>>280240723
The main issue is that, when done properly, no can get points through beating people in a fight. The instant an agent realises they are in a losing position they can just off themselves to deny points, which would make the match last forever. All of the A-ranks should be experienced enough to do this and most of B-rank too.
Unlike Rank Wars where bailing out thins out the enemy numbers permanently, suiciding only takes them out of the match for a few hours and then they come right back. There is zero reason not to suicide at the end of every losing encounter to deny the enemy points.
There is no way in hell suiciding is free while Bail Out is removed. Bail Out is far stronger in this type of match which is why they removed it in the first place. Leaving in something that has the exact same function as Bail Out with no drawback would defeat the purpose.

>>280260204
Starmaker would be very helpful if you could land it. The problem is landing a hit on someone strong is hard.
You could have Chika send out a wave of starmaker projectiles like Mikumo did against Kazama to counter his chameleon, but even for her that would take a ton of trion.

>>280254529
neighbors have the same potential as meeden people
this is how they survived all this time in the neighborhood, they hunted down high trion individuals and sacrificed them to mother triggers to run their artificial planets
you could say they introduced an artificial selection by culling high trion individuals from the gene pool, they should've bred them instead
it's no surprise that meeden can produce higher trion with no such negative selection enforced

>>280260370
You don't even need to invoke selection. Even if people from Meeden and the neighborhood have the exact same spread of trion scores Meeden is simply huge. If Chika represents a one in a million occurence then depending on the size of the neighborhood they may have 2 or three chikas as a whole. On the other hand, Japan alone would have around 120 chikas.

>>280260370
How OP is Meeden btw?
They have an entire planet that costs no trion to run and they can focus all of their trion on combat. Every single human has a trion gland and Earth is absolutely massive, so as Border increases in size more and more talented people can be found around the globe and trained, allowing Border to get staff with higher trion on average. They also have two Black Triggers despite their small number of fighters while "large" nations like Aftokrator only have 13~, despite being active in trion warfare for far longer.
Over the next 100 years Meeden will become the strongest nation by a landslide.

>>280260353
You just need a peck so shotgunners are best.

>>280260519
It would be OP if they disregard human rights and harvest other humans for trion.

>>280260589
Osamu wtf

>>280250341
Mixing in a "reverse rabbit" trick could work once. Hide your own agent in a rabbit. If radar can't handle overlap: easy surprise.
Imagine: a short-range rabbit suddenly fires an Ikoma whirlwind from its stomach.

>>280254809
>Border is training agents to shoot their own teammates
Gotta weed out those Hatoharas

>>280259896
and this correction is the main reason for why everyone is saying Rindo is overkill

>>280260519
>allowing Border to get staff with higher trion on average
not higher than Afto though because they modify children to increase their trion capacity
but yeah should be no problem to make an army of Ninomiyas which isn't something any other neighborhood state can do
And yeah, free planet is a huge boon, I expect at some point Border will invite allies to colonize Solar System because the cost of terraforming a planet should be much lower than creating a planet from scratch.
Honestly at this point it's clear to me that neighbours came from Earth in the first place and Ashihara will have a hard time explaining why did they fuck off to alternative dimension instead of colonizing space.

>>280260370
they sacrifice 1 guy per 100-200~ years, otherwise they collect the people with high trion and make them their soldiers and nobles, they try to breed for high trion so most people from the families are already strong. As we can see with Afto's 3 nobles all having high as fuck stats.
Hyuse was a a random street brat adopted into Afto's noble house and raised as one of them.
Meeden simply has x10000 amount the people neighbors have, so our gacha odds for roiling a godroll gland are just higher.

>>280261436
>why did they fuck off to alternative dimension instead of colonizing space
Maybe they were intended to be colony ships for traveling to another planet with the alt dimension used for FTL travel like slip space or the warp. But they got stranded because for some unknown reason or the fact that space is fucking huge as hell and it takes serious calculations to figure out how to land on a rock flying around the sun at tens or hundreds of thousands of miles an hour.

>>280249652
it's a wringer simulation to test that you're not going to fucking shit yourself and fail in a real scenario

>>280262179
What the fuck is a "wringer simulation"?

>>280262319

>>280262319
nta but it should mean stress test

>>280249652
It's not checking just the best away mission candidates, they're also scouting for future commanders and HQ staff.

>>280262012
It actually makes a lot of sense, but it's bizarre that they managed to make artificial worlds with technology meant for interstellar travel. Though it kinda makes sense if they were also prepared for terraforming? Getting stranded like that and developing in isolation. But then again why would this technology be lost on Earth and why wouldn't neighbors try to reclaim Earth when they rediscovered the way to get back.
I guess we aren't getting any of this and neighbors just exist.

I hope we'll get combined arms of the agents using trion soldiers for mobility and defence. Just having strong units won't cut it, especially when your enemies largely know how you fight. Suddenly it's not just Oki who's a mobile sniper, but everyone's got flying sniping platforms! Add in some fake agent-looking soldiers into the mix and send them in earlier so enemy snipers reveal their positions.

Add in a spiderbot just to make Mikumo useless outside of batshit suggestions.

>>280262927
It's human nature.

Why are people living in the Arctic and the desert? Because they can. At least one subset of humanity is naturally compelled to try and get there first to be alone/conquerers whenever they see open territory. I know I feel like that sometimes - "uh oh, someone's building a house within a mile of me. This place is getting too crowded. Gotta move." But the tolerance for being near people is a gradient, so as people have kids on the frontier and other people move "near" the edge, you end up with stable population clusters in the extreme environments.

>>280236561
she will personally follow osamu around so she can kill him to deny points to the enemy.

One of the options for the trion soldiers was a radar jammer right? So snipers should just carry a jammer the size of a RAD instead of using bagworm.

Yuiga vs Jackson is going to be crazy in phase two.

Considering Osamu being both high value and low respawn, I can see some people in the test team side trying to tell him not to respawn in order to conserve their team's points. Which will obviously run into conflicts because he needs to actually do something in order to look good.

Nasu my beloved

>>280263685
>Why are people living in the Arctic and the desert
They, in fact, don't
Deserts expand into lands that were inhabited by humans and people flee from there and settlements are restricted to oasises. They didn't choose to live there.
And arctic is only inhabited by seasonal workers who extract resources. You can look at Canada population distribution, they all live near the ocean and on the southern border.
If you think places like Sweden and Norway are harsh environments think again, ocean makes their climate perfectly fine for living.

>>280265110
That's why phone connunicator was introduced and specifically mentioned in the last chapter
He doesn't need to respawn.

>>280264012
If I was Azuma I would spam the area with decoys configured to show on your own radar so you can map the areas that get jammed

>>280264478
I'd bet on Yuiga

>>280260191
The scanner didn't max out, but trion glands keep growing until adulthood, and Chika's barely 14. So she's got another ~6 years to increase her trion, and using it will increase it more than if she didn't use it. So it'd probably be reasonable to expect her to top out in the 40-50 range.

We'd better get an Osamu vs Yuiga 1v1, let's see the fruits of four-eyes' training.

>>280266891
>They, in fact, don't
Yes they do. They usually have to be at least semi-nomadic like reindeer herders and tauregs due to the sparse resources. But they absolutely do it and not because the environment changed around them.
That anon is right. If a place exists, people will try to live there.

>>280241970
>several major world conflicts have erupted and become years-long quagmires during this arc

>>280253283
Basically elder abuse

>>280266891
>People are forced to live there
They're still living there, and people move there. From the sources I found,
>~1 billion people live in desert environments, not clear from sources whether they're including cold deserts
>~3.7 million live in Arctic regions, the majority of which are non-indigenous
>The 40 desert counties of the southwest United States are some of the fastest growing, population-wise, in the country.
I find it hard to believe that all these people were forced into these locations and that the remainder had desertification as the cause.

>Sweden and Norway aren't the bad
I didn't say they were extreme, I just said they were in the arctic. Most people would say no to living there. I live in Minnesota, most people I talk to think I'm crazy just for living here! And just because desert/arctic people tend to live near oasises or hot springs or desert cities means nothing; YOU live in a HOUSE. Virtually all humans adjust their environment to be more hospitable for survival, harnessing whatever advantages the natural landscape offers. It doesn't negate the fact that their broader environment isn't one most people would venture into to start with. That's what I'm saying about the neighborhood; some humans have a drive to move to/remain in unconventional places, even when there are regions more hospitable to them. Is it a large proportion? No, most people want to live comfortably. But there's a gradient of how extreme of an environment you're willing to accept in exchange for autonomy/freedom/availability/tradition, and some people are waaaay outside of the normal range in what they're willing to accept.

>>280269747
>quagmires
holy crap lois!

>>280247744
No reason to assume they're that rusty. Tamakoma's small enough that Rindo will have been doing defense duty sometimes, and I don't see a reason why a former Neighbor like Kronin wouldn't keep up with his training. The other two might have gotten a bit rusty, but even if I they had I suspect they'd have known about this ahead of time and blown the rust off. Certainly they should be ready enough to adequately replace the absent agents.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. I want to live in Medeen instead of on Earth. Usually, fantasy worlds are so much worse off than ours, even if they seem cooler, but Medeen is home to so many level headed, cooperative, reasonable youngsters that it can't be worse. I mean, look around us. Our world is falling to pieces.

>>280271486
>Medeen is home to so many level headed, cooperative, reasonable youngsters
Border is. Based on Osamu's school and that one press conference I'm not sure broader society is any more reasonable than ours. So it could just be like regular Earth with a small chance of being abducted by aliens.

>>280268462
I kinda want Yuiga to do shit, its weird but I am rooting for him to blast some irrelevant b-ranks.

>>280274029
Jackson will destroy him.

>>280274202
In a 1v1, I doubt it, yuiga had a higher win rate against mikumo when they sparred a month or so ago, keep in mind that mikumo completly read jackson's moves and got a clean kill off of him. Not to glaze yuiga but he does have the strongest border agents training him sometimes

>>280275048
jobsonbros...

>>280275075
Part 2 will make or break jackson. This will be the first time commanding a squad in a live fire exercise. The xcom kinda counted but combat is very different between a simulation and battle against humanoid neighbors/ other trigger users. I hope he doesnt quit, it doesn't seem to me like he would but it will a huge wake up call as to how far behind he really is compared to the other squad leaders and whether or not he should pursue being a captain or go back to being a supporting squad member

>>280275263
If he wants to give his squad the best chance of success he should honestly just give the reins to Hyuse. I don't think he'll do that and I hope he doesn't though.

>>280275449
I doubt Ashihara would just have him go through a
>you're shit and you need to acknowledge you are shit
only for him to give up command.

>>280238670
The only two people who can consistently go toe-to-toe against him in CQC are on his team right now, being Jin and Konami. Maybe add Blade Mode Geist Karasuma (but that's probably not allowed).

Even if you try to take them out from range with Shooters, Gunners and Snipers, A-Squad have their own long range beasts to counter that (Izumi, Kako, Katagiri, Toma, Narasaka, Satomi, Satori, Uno, Rindo and Reiji)

>>280275552
>Osamu bribes Konami with another Karasuma date.

>>280238670
Yuba will murder Tachikawa

>>280275781
There is no need to bribe Konami, she will be trying her best not to kill Osamu as is. In fact she will most likely hunt down everyone but him so he gets bonus survival points.

>>280275781
>Karasuma ends up on a date with half the women in border and singlehandedly loses his team the battle from all the team killing

>>280238670
Tachikawa is ridiculous. The guy who singlehandedly bullies nearly all other Attackers and says fuck you to Side Effects. And now he's got some equally ridiculous backup.

>>280275851
It would be nice to see him kick ass after he got the jobbing role to hype up Ninomiya back in Rank Wars.

>>280275973
He and Oji better put up some numbers in this next phase or I'm selling.

>>280276007
Between Oji Osamu and Taichi i expect some absolutely disgusting and devious plans.

>>280275908
That's a big problem with the second phase in general. There's no room for "no hard feels" inside Tamakoma branch since everybody knows how hard T2 is pushing to join the away mission. Even if Rindo and T1 want to be fair, they'll find it hard given the stakes.

I'm so excited to see Konami and Karasuma fighting together in the same squad. Even in both invasions they were mostly fighting separately.
It's been so long since he told her a lie and she fell for it hook, line and sinker.

>>280276315
I think everyone but Usami will be capable of adopting a "you have to earn it by getting through me" mentality.

>>280276508
Considering most of T1 have seen people die in battle thats very likely

>>280276315
Konami won't and can't be fair. Jin is rigging this shit from like 2 years ago.
The only issue T1 has is avoiding Four-eyes for as long as possible. That is it. Chika is already in and is all but guaranteed to score some fried A-ranks for dinner, Hyuse & Yuma are strong and fighting them will showcase their good sides.

>>280276596
I honestly would like to see Osamu just developing some wack strategies against the top brass.

>>280276596
I am really curious how Jin is going to play it. Everyone knows his side effect and his team could very well ask him to use it to their advantage to predict the enemy strategy which would fuck Osamu over really badly.
I also can't imagine he can just throw the match without it being incredibly obvious.

>>280276632
Also fuck over Yuuma and Hyuse, especially Hyuse I'd love to see his face.

>>280276668
if Jin is in there is no way for B-rank to win, 36 hour limit is a lie and the true objective is prolonged survival. simple as that.

>>280276668
I'd almost expect Jin to have a handicap specifically concerning his side effect. Because if he didn't, the test would end up a mostly useless curbstomp.

>>280277123
I mean, he himself admits his side effect is less useful the more parties are active at the same time, so like 15 different teams each working for their own goals would generally be a shit situation for him.
Even when it was just border vs neighbors he starts making concessions.

>>280277185
>15 different teams each working for their own goals
While I'm sure there will be complications, they're trying to work together towards a common goal. There should be some overlap in what he sees for different squads to help him narrow down what is most likely. It's kind of the opposite of fighting neighbors where he can't see anything on their side.

>>280277583
>There should be some overlap in what he sees for different squads
Every squad should have 2-3 plans and he's seeing them ALL.
Jin won't be able to handle at the very least 40-50 paths randomly changing every few minutes.
That's what I think his nerf will be, too many random actors, because there's no united goal.

>>280261436
>>280262012
Maybe the reason humanity never explored Outer Space in World Trigger is related to why the Zodiac is different in World Trigger world

>>280277630
>because there's no united goal.
But what if there is? I think it's more likely than not that they coordinate for their overarching strategies. Something like that would be super obvious to Jin since everyone's futures would include it.
He'd have a lot of noise concerning side stuff like Ninomiya's dating sim and Jackson trying to gather his spaghetti. But it should be almost impossible to get any sort of group strategies past him.
And if they don't coordinate like that, then they're fucked anyway even without Jin. The rest of the A ranks will tear them apart if they're not working together.

>>280279035
Jin, at minimum, could predict his own group and whatever they defend/attack accurately.

>>280275851
Yuba will be hunted down by his eager fanboy.

>>280281639
Satomi will be trying to one on one Ninomiya

>>280281682
He would want to get to them both. The main issue is that he is a Saki simp. He will do whatever she orders him to do and their squad's strategy is to hunt down for stragglers and easy targets. There is a good chance Osamu will have to deal with them.

We need more female osamu fanart

T1/A0 members know what their flatmates are capable of. They know Hyuse and Yuma are beasts, and they know Chika is a Trion monster who just needs experience. For these three, the upper ranks are going to want to go hard to give their kohai a chance to show the top brass what they can do, and to find them a chance to learn from fighting some of the best. The only one who needs to be babied from a combat perspective is Osamu. He's a wacky, talented tactician, but he's so weak outside of his occasional gutsy, brilliant plan that they honestly might have a hard time not wanting to throw to him. At the same time, they likely won't want him to go into the neighborhood, so maybe they don't cut him slack to protect him from getting into something he can't survive. Maybe they settle their conflict of interest by avoiding him while sending beasts like Tachikawa his way every time they see him.

I haven't been keeping up with WT since the rank wars ended and the next arc began because I expected it to take forever, is it safe to catch up now?

>>280232838
>author's fav dies

anon...

>>280284098
Female Osamu is a forbidden weapon of mass destruction. Danger level exceeds Karasuma by 4 orders of magnitude.

>>280284288
We’re about to start phase 2 (36 hour combat) right about now. I could imagine it won’t start immediately next month, but pretty soon.

>>280284160
>Maybe they settle their conflict of interest by avoiding him while sending beasts like Tachikawa his way every time they see him.
Squadmates recusing themselves might be a thing beyond Tamakoma. I bet Arashiyama squad would be reluctant to fuck up Kitora too. Kazama is probably the opposite, though.

>>280223072
>>280225815
13 points is kinda brutal in a personal way, especially when even Urushima got double that, so she isn't just the lowest ranked but lowest by a lot. I wonder if there is a chance for Katori to take this somewhat badly instead of just triggering her pissed off buff for free, though it is the most likely scenario.

>>280275263
Here's hoping that he really took that teardown and his previous experience at attempted command during rank wars to heart.

>>280284817
>chance for Katori to take this somewhat badly
I think so. You're right. That's a pretty brutal put down, especially for someone like her. I could definitely see them having to do another therapy session under much tighter circumstances to get her back in working order.

>>280284869
Not going to save him, its really hard to overstate how utterly fucked Jackson is. One mistake his team dies, if he is too slow his team dies, if he misjudges the situation his team dies.
Jackson went from playing with toy cars to piloting F1 in a free for all death match race with weapons allowed and all restrictions removed. He is going to say goo-goo gaa-gaa bwrrrruuu, Tachikawa will say Kogetsu Whirlwind.
Wakamura's only hope is to make a single correct decision early and immediately delegate command to Hyuse.

>>280285039
He's got the guy that held off 7 agents by himself. If any squad has room for error, it's his.

>>280285107
>kill weaklings first is a policy
>whirlwind goes through Escudo
Jackson just has too much on his plate, because this scenario is much tougher on the captains than the usual battles, from squad formation on the march to threat priority to proper positioning to even handling operator placement & movement all while staying on guard and issuing fast orders. Do you remember how he needed the map of the area pulled every 3 seconds despite it being a common map he should have already knew? Now that thing wasn't just him stalling for time without making a decision, he was also draining attention span from the operator, which is another sudden death trigger. The area will be completely unknown to him any any delay can trigger sudden death. Ultimately he can try and get them wiped out but I think it would be a bit too brutal, in this case it wouldn't be his fault, the task is simply too hard.
>He's got the guy that held off 7 agents by himself
Depending on their luck, even Hyuse might be taken out with relative ease. Worst case they could walk into T1, Tachikawa squad or god forbid, Rindo.
>If any squad has room for error, it's his.
Nino's. They have 3 snipers, their engagement range is half the map and they have Azuma to keep Toma in check. He could probably give command to Chika and it would be fine.

>>280285503
>Nino's. They have 3 snipers
That makes them more fragile, not less. They have to be way more careful about their positioning than any other squad. Having Nino helps. But that just counterbalances the fact that they are the squad responsible for protecting and properly utilizing the B ranks' most powerful weapon. Now, between Nino and Azuma, they'll definitely be able to pull it off just fine. But most captains would have a hard time making that composition work.
Wakamura's squad composition is a lot easier to work with. And the fact that their most valuable member is more than capable of taking care of himself is a huge boon. Although Hyuse is also the biggest problem for Jackson. While not quite as scale tipping as Chika, proper utilization of Hyuse will still be essential for the B ranks to have a chance at victory. So I guess it isn't right to say he has the most room for error. But it's still far from as bad as it could be if he had a more challenging squad like Nino's or Suwa's.

>>280276668
>Jin
>Participating
You don't need to make the test more impossible than it already is

>>280285995
It makes them fragile, but awesome for this engagement. The terminals are stationary targets, after all. Strike, move fast using Trion soldiers for both speed and stealth, repeat. There's no way the A ranks can stop them. This cuts both ways, of course.

>>280285995
Not quite.
It will indeed take an exemplar to make the most out of Nino's team, but to barely pilot it? absolutely not.
Its a back-line team with godlike tool set, if piloted by a potato they will never see contact line. Their main job is to shoot any target that presents itself and survive. Thus the decisions are simple and intuitive, get to high ground inside b territory, stay away, shoot, keep Azuma on overwatch, retreat if anyone shows up on the radar or if Azuma sees anyone closing in, if the bombs come from the other side intercept.
Range fire power supremacy, one of the best if no the best snipers in border to provide cover, and meat-shields - the entire b-rank to slow down any incoming threat. You have time to make decisions and you can always retreat while firing back. Not to mention that anyone who rushes in will just die to a combined 60 trion blast. Even with minimum skill from the commander they will provide high utility by providing cover fire and drawing attention.
With Wakamura's team situation is much worse.
They are contact line medium range, slow moving team and their tools are shite.
An average attacker who must use invisibility to not be instantly killed, average sniper, an average gunner and a Hyuse, double chameleon is their only saving grace. In order for this team to not instantly evaporate on contact a lot of things must be done, one of which is reconnaissance with proper squad formation. As it is a contact line team all the scary monsters from A rank can just pounce on them at any moment, any lapse in judgment can and will be immediately fatal.
Just surviving first engagement is already mission impossible, making actual use out of this team comes down to blind luck.
>chance at victory
none unless A ranks suicide or someone finds giga cheese.

The more I see talk about this the more I realise how fucked the B ranks are. Kitora and Earman don't exactly tip the scales into their favour.
That said I'd remind people that Kageura and Nino are former A-ranks so in theory they can hold their own.

Reminder that Tachikawa bullied Jin (with side effect) so hard he had to go and create the most broken trigger in existence.

>>280287023
Which is why I'm saying that 36 hour limit is a lie and they all are going to die. How absolutely fucked they are will depend on the map size, the smaller the map the worse it is.
>former A-ranks so in theory they can hold their own.
A ranks have T1 & Rindo. they didn't come to play.

>>280287023
Don't forget Azuma, Utagawa, and Kodera

>>280287239
Plus the Bs are playing in squads with people they've never fought with before, vs As who have been together for years.

Once again repeating myself: they HAVE to avoid direct conflict and take out the operators if they are to have any chance at all, and this is exactly what they'd have to do when they go to the neighborhood. They're not there to win fights and conquer territory. They're there to hit single targets, rescue people, and escape before the people of the neighborhood even know they're there. This test is perfect.

>>280287239
I really think it's just a survival test... the away mission is just to rescue the captured agents and get out, engaging in combat with Canadians is probably the worst case scenario, I really think the higher ups will give points to the squad that handled the whole surviving the 36 hours a lot of pointd

>>280287292
I wrote a thing no one noticed and it kinda pains me.
B-ranks have range supremacy.
A-ranks have attacker supremacy.
Combat objectives - Terminals are effectively shielded from ranged damage and are geared towards melee destruction = combat objectives favor A-ranks.
Shit is very rigged.

>>280219234 (OP)
>5 years of Rank Wars to finish top 2 and get promoted to A rank then go on Away missions
>5 years of a Special Exam to incorporate dozens of B agents into the Away mission anyway
This author is the king of screwing around.

>>280286932
If Nino's squad is passive then the B ranks have already lost. They have to leverage Chika's and Nino's firepower offensively if they're going to have a chance. They also need Hyuse used in a similar fashion. But acting as support for a wrecking ball that can already go toe to toe with A ranks on his own is a lot more straightforward than keeping an artillery battery safe with only snipers.
It's also a lot easier for Wakamura's squad to do their job by just going along with another squad with more capable leadership to help carry some of the burden. Nino's squad is wholly unique.
>>280287023
For me it's the opposite. At first I thought it was impossible. But I'm realizing that it really just comes down to which side exploits their strengths better. The A ranks are obviously favored by quite a lot. But none of them are invincible. All of them die to a Nino barrage plus snipers to cover escapes, or an Ikoma senku from outside their field of view, or Yuma swooping in out of nowhere while they're fighting someone else. And a few important kills can easily snowball.

>>280287434
This author is the king of a destroyed spinal system. You read through in one go? It flies. Pacing feels great.

>>280287479
>then the B ranks have already lost
yes
>It's also a lot easier
to just delegate command to Hyuse. The only better commander would be Azuma.

>>280287427
Just because the terminals are meant to be cut down by attackers doesn't necessarily mean having more attackers is better. You presumably only need one person to senku a terminal to take it down. And both attacking and defending the position around a terminal is potentially easier for snipers, gunners, and shooters since the defenders are stuck around a stationary objective. Both teams are also probably going to use their trion soldier budget to help smooth out shortcomings, which should be easier for the B ranks since they've got more freedom with the designs.

>>280287692
its not about more, its about quality.
A-ranks have fastest & strongest attackers in the border, much more mobile and capable, someone like Konami & Tachikawa could easily take out entire teams solo. The quality of their attackers and their speed allows them to snowball small wins into a fatal push.

>>280287998
But that doesn't really have anything to do with taking out terminals any better. Any A rank ace will fuck up the more normal B ranks regardless of how they do it. But guys like Izumi and Toma are arguably more versatile and strategically valuable for their ability to clear out and defend terminals than the monster attackers are.

On a completely unrelated note, what uniforms will the B ranks be wearing? Are they just going to have their jumbled up B rank ones? Or are they going to have ones specific to their squads in this test?

>>280288260
Funee t shirtz

>>280226619
Kitora might want to go on the away mission but otherwise be unable to since her squad is a PR squad and thus anchored locally. Kikuchihara might be a case of the higher ups wanting to see if the squads can come up with different, clever use cases of his side-effect. Additionally, both showed an inclination and talent for coaching their kouhais—through their coaching of Mikumo. It’s possible that the higher ups want them in the mix to see if that coaching can be deployed and made the most of by more agents.

>>280288469
Since they took Utagawa too, I think they may be planning on giving Kazama a big boy job and disbanding his squad.

Nono will have to do an inverse Katori mod with her trion body or she won't be able to run.

>>280288578
I doubt they’d do it before the expedition, but it wouldn’t be too surprising if that was their general plan. Kazama’s brother was in Old Border, so he was probably one of the earlier new Border recruits. He’s been to the Neighborhood a few times, and he was the one front and center of reporting in after the last away mission. He might not be their highest ranked agent, but he’s probably their highest ranked agent who isn’t a fighting autist. So it wouldn’t be odd if they wanted to offer him a management job.

>>280288801
>inverse Konami
ftfy
she is the progenitor of the trion boob virus.

>>280288801
Nono my beloved

>>280288835
Yeah, I was thinking it'd be after they got back. I get the feeling there would be a lot of squad shuffling then.

I hate that every time I read Kodera I keep thinking of the guy from Azuma Squad and get confused

>>280284817
Suwa and Osamu farmed points correcting Katori's BS.

>>280284817
No, she doesn't take stuff like that badly. She could throw a little tantrum, but nothing major.

>>280290841
I dunno. Being told that the A ranks considered her the worst person in the entire test so far seems like something that would piss her off.

>>280279002
>humanity never explored Outer Space in World Trigger
Was this ever mentioned? How do you know this?

>>280287023
I'd argue that it's not stacked enough if Amo isn't participating.

>>280292788
One day we will get to actually see Amo fight. But probably not until after the space boat, or maybe during it if there's another invasion then (seems plausible)

>>280292788
I agree. If Meeden has a black trigger as busted as his, there's no reason not to prepare for a neighbor having something like that too. I expect that is precisely the case for the mystery nigger that almost killed Yuma.

>>280287023
Earman is absolutely busted depending on how far his range goes. He could singlehandedly track the A-rank movements if he can hear their footsteps which would give them an insane advantage (e.g. they could send people to unmanned terminals to destroy them and it would be impossible to surprise them).

>>280287998
Attackers also use less trion than shooters or gunners, so it's even more of an advantage in this kind of competition. At least Kage and Kitora are on the weaker team to help even things out a bit.

Darkhorse Oji has 3 attackers and 1 all-rounder in his squad. He could very well have zero bailouts from trion usage and end up with no deaths.

>95 player battle
This has the potential to be the best match in sports manga history.

>>280226619
>>280226985

>>280293397
Yowamushi Pedal's third Inter high had a strong start.
Four Eyes MC got another mentor who revealed to be the team's greatest enemy.
Poor man's MC find himself as the captain of a dark horse team and provide feels.
Everyone playing 5d chess despite they have a trivial win con.

>>280293289
Depending on how long it goes even senkus and replacement scorpions will start to matter. Ikoma in particular could run dry faster than a sniper.

Are the B-ranks allowed to communicate now or not? If they are, they should all collaborate on creating trion soldiers so they don't end up with overlapping strategies.

>>280293779
They always could they just can't talk to former teammates

>>280287485
This
Honestly more impressive than anything is he's been able to keep the pace slower in favour of the plot instead of trying to rush it to accommodate the release schedule and miss out on the important breathing time and characterisation
>>280292183
We don't know for sure, just if Meeden is the origin point of the human race, why would Neighbors use their advanced technology to explore dimensional travel that requires human sacrifice instead of taking their sci-fi ships to the stars

>>280295254
>We don't know for sure, just if Meeden is the origin point of the human race, why would Neighbors use their advanced technology to explore dimensional travel that requires human sacrifice instead of taking their sci-fi ships to the stars
they accidentally themselves out into parallel dimension like the dwemer

>>280295363
>>280295254
>inb4 neighbors are the og's trigger users who left thier doomed planet in search of a new only to get stuck on some plane of existence where sacrificing high trion people let's their "ship" survive.
Heh, I guess the reason why earthlings have trion glands is because some neighbors did make it to a new planet and interbred, but for the ones that didn't they just kept to island nations in the neighborhood. Regardless I hope when the crew goes to the neighborhood they expand on the lore.

>>280223104
Is Jin even going to participate? Don't they kinda need him on standby to focus his side effect for more invaders? And figured Amo wasn't gonna participate whatever power he has it's not something to deploy against fellow agents, maybe it's an erasure power? the destruction zone looked very clean when we first saw him, I'm kinda concerned about the respawn for Kuga and Hyuse, Kuga lives in a trion body so if he's defeated here will that interfere with that and be a threat to his life? Hyuse has to hide his horns what are the odds of being defeated reveals his horns to whoever took him down let alone while he has to wait for the respawn? Like what if another member of his squad is defeated and sent to the same room as Hyuse to wait for their respawn, how's he gonna hide his horns then?

>>280223072
>The weakest guy and least threatening is worth over 100 points to kill

Bruh, this feels personal especially when everybody else higher than him is a pain in the butt to fight, Everyone's gonna be gunning for Osamu as soon as the test starts, that bait is just too appatizing to pass up especially for people itching to get an early lead to make up for failures in the first part of this, Kitora probably gonna be mad as fuck Osamu is so close to her in worth even through he's fodder.

>Room namke is over
>Threads shoot up in speed because not only action but because tsun girl got omega dissed and sweat man got a big fucking target put on his back AND some old dogs are gonna get down for the very first time

I wish the author well in health because the fanbase is buzzing in excitement for something that's probably gonna take at the bare minimum 3 years to get through, I feel bad for the anime, no way in hell are they gonna come back for a 4th season of just talking they're gonna have to wait for this part of the test to be done as well and then start animating the ship arc and hopefully by then the field test is wrapping up or done.

>>280295999
For Hyuse, they'll probably get dropped into a sleep pod after being killed, so no problems at all. For Yuma, didn't he effectively bail out previously? I mean the effect here is kinda similar, except you can't trigger it on your own if sudoku is not an option.

I could actually see Osamu going for Bagworm Tag if he's allowed it. It uses little Trion and would let him hide the whole time.

>>280295695
This isn't fucking stargate, species that developed separately on different stars can't breed
unless it is

>>280297517
>This isn't fucking stargate
All we're missing is a bald texan

>>280295254
Logistically, long distance space travel could still be harder than dimension hopping.

If Azuma asked to be exempted from the exam (say, for personal reasons), would any of the higher ups actually disallow him from going on the expedition? I imagine not, surely.

>>280298472
Yes, on account of his horrendous IBS

>>280298441
Yes but what was their destination? There aren't even any natural planets in the neighborhood

>>280300231
They could have been trying to fold space

>>280287434
Incorporating capable B ranks was part of the plan once Chika was confirmed to go. If Mikumo didn't hit Top 2 then he either wouldn't have been invited to take the exam or he would've been failed no matter how he scored.

>>280290841
Yeah I think the same, she shouldn't slow them down for long even if she gets down the dumps.
Wakamura 36
Hana 118
Miura 80
From what was shown to us Katori doesn't enter catatonic unless its about her team. When she is the problem she either seethes trying to somehow clench it or cries in defeat and she shakes off both of those moods pretty fast.
It still is a major character moment to see how she takes this kind of blow, because man, this shit is actually worse than Jackson's tear down. There is no prep talk, no explanations and no direct way out, just a verdict - entire A rank thinks you are a worthless turd, and that includes Karasuma, better yet she don't get any time to weather this out, battle phase is now, show must go on Ace, perform.

>>280240774
isn't konami a tard as well?

>>280296076
>especially for people itching to get an early lead to make up for failures in the first part of this
The A ranks are going to be the ones killing him. So he shouldn't have to deal with this at least. But he is a delicious, easy target.

>>280303976
she is naive and trusting to her inner circle but not retarded

>>280303976
No she's just too trusting

>>280261436
>why did they fuck off to alternative dimension instead of colonizing space
One of the popular theory being that neighbours were Atlantean due to their extensive usage of greek naming. Atlantis were probably destroyed by natural means/civil war that Atlantean moved to their artificial planet in neighbour realm in order to achieve independence from Meeden. This also doesn't stop neighbours coming back to Meeden while picking up new cultures on the way back (Yuma's old home in neighbour realm is called Calvaria aka latin).

>>280272270
This. Border is a highly competent organization filled with hand picked rational thinking individuals. They were created to repel neighbour threats. They can't let those democrat clown show running their place.

wish we get a big arc about konami where it is revealed she's the chosen one and it will be Osamu team's duty to protect her.

>>280293397
Will there be running like in One Piece

>>280304556
>an egg protecting the dragon
flip that power dynamics on its head

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>two bump limit threads
Glad to know I'm not the only fightfag who has been eagerly awaiting this part.

and so we pray

I for one enjoyed the homework arc a lot, I just wish the chapters had come out faster but well there's no helping that part.

I'm gonna offer my rosary today for this man

>>280306573
I liked it too. Which I would not have expected based on the premise. But I'm also really excited to get more paramilitary spokon.

>>280304639
No, trion mounts only.