What is the point of this character?

>>280221193 (OP)
Turn people into trannies.

>>280221407
That goes against the whole concept of his character. He is a feminine boy who wants to be a stronger man.

>>280221407
Quite literally the opposite

>>280221193 (OP)
To be my son

>>280221522
>>280221537
Let's hope Kodaka Kazutaka never goes down the Ishiwatari Daisuke path

>>280221522
>>280221537
I personally know of a guy whose first step into becoming a tranny was dangaronpa and particularly OPs picture.
That, and this site on its fag era.

>>280221193 (OP)
To be cute, precious and perfect!

>>280222104
I think he missed the point.

>>280222104
People will misinterpret the character, but his entire arc was
>Weak boy hid behind dressing as a girl so that he wouldn't get seen as a weak man
>Secretly wants to be stronger and not feel trapped
>After getting stuck in the killing game, he makes friends with a tough guy and makes an effort to get stronger by secretly lifting and becoming the person he wants to be which is a masculine man, this leads to his early death

>>280221193 (OP)
To make my pp hard and my heart soft.

Chihiro is for Celestia Ludenberg.

>>280221193 (OP)
gateway drug

>>280222157
>this leads to his early death
What? I only fapped to the trap porn

Sometimes I wish I could be like Chihiro and have the courage to be stronger as a man despite my fragile physique.

>>280222675
Perchance you should play the game and find out yourself

>>280222676
I don't understand this line of thinking so many people claim to have.
You know what you want, you know how to get what you want, but you STILL don't make an effort to get it.
Do you actually even want it? I hear people talk like this and it truly, genuinely, vexes me.
You understand this is the only life you will ever have in this world right? How can you know what you want and not go after it? It's not like it's an unreachable paradise either, you know how to get stronger, it is isn't complicated.
So why don't you?

>>280222752
>it is isn't complicated.
it is not complicated*

>>280221193 (OP)
anal rape then death

>>280221193 (OP)
He's integral to the plot. You would know if you played the game or watched the show.

>>280222752
>you know how to get what you want
I actually have no idea what to do or how to fix my situation.
>but you STILL don't make an effort to get it.
I'm too mentally weak and weak-willed to do anything right, on top of being mentally ill and heavily depressed, etc, etc.

>>280223541
>I actually have no idea what to do or how to fix my situation.
I can't give you the answers to whatever personal issues are in your life but if you want to get stronger, physically at least, what matters is
>Sleep
>Diet, really just enough protein for your body weight
>Hypertrophy, a fancy word for applying stress to your muscles through exercise so that they regrow back stronger.
Those are the three things that matter, if you break the complicated thing down into its components suddenly it's a lot easier to understand.
>I'm too mentally weak and weak-willed to do anything right, on top of being mentally ill and heavily depressed, etc, etc
So change that then, your immediate reaction is probably
>Well if I could just change it at will then I obviously would but I haven't.
What you are missing is that habits are what change those things, I can empathize with having trouble with discipline but small incremental changes will add up and pay back dividends. Something like swapping out soda for diet soda might sound minute but over a month or two that will amount to thousands of calories gone from your caloric intake which results in fat loss.
Again I can only speak for myself, but in my era of being weak and depressed and one bad day from offing myself it was these small things like bad diet and bad sleep that really kept me in the pit, I knew they were bad for me but I still did them so I thought low of myself.
The best thing you can learn is that confidence is something you have to earn to yourself, and you do that by keeping your word to yourself and moving towards things you think are valuable (your goals.)
You don't need to move mountains daily but even something like switching to caffeine free soda after noon so you don't mess up your sleep or even just showering daily might be progress, and that is valuable and over time adding more good habits and removing bad ones will show itself and you will feel better, mentally and physically.

>>280221193 (OP)
To make my penis hard

>game came out in 2010
>anime 2013
Could you imagine how fucked the dialog would be if it had came out maybe a decade later

>>280221193 (OP)
he was created for a videogame.
his purpouse it's to be the twist of a trial.

>>280221193 (OP)
He and Nagisa are probably the only trap characters who actually have a normal reason for looking or dressing that way, instead of just “fanservice lol".

>>280222157
the funny part is that everyone already lived their school years at hope's peak and made friends and grew as people and shit and then forgot about it
which makes chihiro STILL being a crossdressing fagboy quite questionable

>>280224484
I got the impression that he was pretty close to Mondo and Leon, which makes it even weirder that he still looks and dresses like a girl. Why didn’t he ask them to work out with him if he was comfortable enough to eventually reveal his secret while they were in the same class for years?

>>280224484
>>280224562
In the lost memories time he probably never found the will to enact what he wanted and only the dire situation of the game he found himself in was enough of a spark to bring action

>>280224562
the obvious answer is they needed both twists and didnt care about this plot hole but it leads to the funny interpretation of chihiro originally fully trooning out and leaning into being a girl within those years and junko just wiping that straight out of him

>>280224562
Probably because the killing game is a different situation. Wasn't there this whole point about him feeling weak compared to everyone else? He probably didn't feel as pressured during school days.

>>280222689
>game
This isn't /v/

>>280223785
You need willpower to have more willpower, isn't that great? Man, I really can't put myself in your shoes, I don't know how people like you can find that strength to keep going. I've tried taking small steps and I failed again and again, I've been failing my whole life.
And yes, I would really like to change but I just can't do it. If you had really been weak like me then you would still be in the same pit as me, it just means you always had that inner strength.

>>280225341
I'm aware, the game is better than the anime
>>280225386
If you are relying on willpower you are doing it wrong, what you should do is create habits so that your progress is driven by the subconscious rather than the conscious. That's why so many people find the "Clean your room and make your bed" advice effective, it's simple and it won't change your life in a vacuum, but what it does do is cultivate a habit of getting things done. It's a foundational tool for growth.
It isn't just feelgood nothings when successful people say failure teaches more than success, it's fine to fall off the cart as many times as you do as long as you get back on it, that is in and of itself a habit to form.
People talk about exponential growth for money making but understand that it applies to time as well, if you invest time into intentionally forming one good habit, sticking with it for a month or so, and then forming a new one for the next month that is progress that will add up.
It's not about bursts of inspiration that 180 your life overnight, it's incremental value adding up over a much longer timeframe.
You don't need to be David Goggins to get to a place where you can be satisfied with life and look yourself in the mirror without feeling bad.

>>280224484
>>280224562
It's possible he went through the same arc (without getting murdered on the first day kek), and ultimately realized he was more comfortable as an effeminate.

>>280224484
>>280224562
Either the pressure of the killing game caused him to take decisive action, or he DID ask Mondo and Leon for help. And either failed, or just decided to stay girly for whatever reason.

>>280223785
Emilia is a shit

>>280221193 (OP)
Creating trap porn

>>280222794
Based.

>>280221522
>>280221537
>>280222157
He spent two years with them still dressing as a girl, even after the world ended.

>>280224233
>Could you imagine how fucked the dialog would be if it had came out maybe a decade later
Have you not played Danganronpa man

>>280229469
Yes, he never felt the pressure to put his desires into action until he was in the killing game

>>280221193 (OP)
Give a false hope to all pedotroons that they will pass when in actually they will die from neo vagina infection or a noose

>>280224484
It's not really THAT questionable, there could be any number of reasons to explain it which doesn't contradict the fact that he wants to be more manly eventually. They probably just weren't thinking too deeply about it.

>>280229487
That or he accepted his fem body sometime during lost memories, progress that he lost when his memories got wiped.

>>280230168
It is possible, but it isn't supported by what we see in the story

>>280230207
I am going out on a total limb, and frankly I don't think the creator thought about it that hard. But the fact he had a fembody after two years, and seemed pretty happy and close to people, makes it more likely he eventually came to terms with it instead of miserably repressing it.

>>280230307
I think the real answer is that he didn't want the spoil the sex of Chihiro since it was a plot point of the second trial, so he couldn't give him a masculine look because it would spoil that.
I also think the actual canon content we have, which shows him wanting to change and be more masculine, is more convincing than speculation.

Mondo is my favorite character. I wish he got more rep

>>280225590
Insightful posts

>>280221193 (OP)
Protecc

>>280230342
Really, it's insane no one changed styles or body type in 2 years. Or picked up injuries or whatever.
>which shows him wanting to change and be more masculine
The canon content shows him wanting to change and be more masculine in the first month. We don't see what happens in the second+ month, other than he kept the fem look but seemed pretty happy and fulfilled.

>>280230372
I'm pretty off Mondo, people headcanon him to be more interesting and sympathetic than he actually was. "Cool motive, still murder" comes to mind

>>280230531
He's just a cool guy, wish we could have seen more of his macho persona but used more efficiently

>>280224233
I’m on Day 50 of this game and this post made me realize that Shouma got the character development that Chihiro wanted so badly

>>280230531
He’s one of many characters who’s hard carried by his free time events

>>280231153
For me it's his design and the friendship with that prez guy. I wish he would have added the effeminate guy to the group.

>>280231215
Yeah, shame that was so short lived. At least the class pictures implied that Chihro and Mondo became close
That’s why Ultimate Talent Development Plan is my favorite DR fanfiction, you can see a lot of those school life scenarios play out without that pesky killing game in the way

>>280224233
Have you played it? The VNs have some of the most fucked localisation I've seen in anything post 2000

>>280221193 (OP)
Mindbreaking me into becoming a trapfag for a few years

>>280231842
Nta but I played it. Is it that bad? I could tell some liberties were taken but I hope most of the meaning was kept

>>280232196
The most egregious change I remember is Gonta having caveman dialogue in the localization when he didn’t have any in the original
Another one is that they changed some of the whacky word play to something more generic, for example the “Super high school level” talents became “ultimate” talents. It’s not a deal breaker but I’m always a little sad when puns have to be lost in translation

>>280225590
>If you are relying on willpower you are doing it wrong
Literally everything you do relies on willpower. Doing all that shit needs willpower
>It isn't just feelgood nothings when successful people say failure teaches more than success
It is a feelgood nothing. What did I learn from failing so much? That I'm a useless fuck I guess? This good habits shit just falls apart for me, eventually I'll just hit rock bottom again and lose all my "progress"

ITT: people being transphobic for no reason

>>280232196
It has the typical stuff of removing honourifics or changing mentions of yen to dollars and shit like that, but worst to me is that they completely change how characters refer to each other
Not only do they completely default on everyone being on a first-name basis (so when you clearly hear someone call the protagonist 'Naegi-kun', the subs will say 'Makoto') for any cast member with a name over like three syllables they just invent nicknames that don't exist in the dialogue you can hear.
So a character will refer to the super-uptight and proper Ishimaru Kiyotaka as Ishimaru, and the subs say 'Taka'
It's, frankly, ludicrous. Especially for a series as 'anime' as Danganronpa

>>280222104
>4chan
>fag era

>era

>>280232984
Honorifics and first/last name basis ended up being a big plot point in the third trial. The localization did a good enough job making it work but reading it while listening to the Japanese audio was really jarring.

>>280231907
Pics. NOW.

>>280232984
Not to mention the writing being shit at base. I still can't believe they reduced Junko to brainwashing people, that's such a slap in the face for one of the few decently-written characters in the series.

>>280233125
My guess is that the writer thought that causing despair like it was outlined in SDR2 would take too much time and effort for a 12 episode anime and decided to take a shortcut. I'm not even against brainwashing as a tool, but Junko put zero effort into weaponizing their flaws and insecurities and it ended up coming off as so fucking lazy.

>>280232764
You completely missed that anon's point. He meant that STRUCTURE pulls way more weight than raw willpower.
Think of it like trying to punch someone vs stabbing them with a knife. Both require you to apply strength, but one will be incredibly more efficient than the other.

>>280221193 (OP)
hiroe rei's doujin of him fucking naegi up the ass

>>280233124
As in, liking them
I'm not a crossdresser

>>280233301
Exactly, you get it. It especially makes no sense when you have shit like Natsumi (Fuyuhiko's sister) getting murdered by Sato (Mahiru's friend), Mikan getting mindraped by Junko, and most importantly, Chiaki getting murdered RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES. There were SO many good reasons to NOT take the easiest way out, but hacks gonna hack I guess.

>>280230510
From what I remember Kirigiri was the only one who picked up on the fact that something was different about her body but didn't quite know what it was

>>280222104
>fag era
How optimistic of you.

This guy is a gateway drug

>>280232196
This anon >>280232984 is a retard for the most part.
The games have real TL issues if you actually know Japanese. As mentioned, Gonta has a completely different character in English. As does Ouma but nobody talks about that as much because doing so would completely invalidate everything you have to say about V3 since he's a main character.
Every game has writing and rewriting issues, not all of them to that degree, but in general it's done in a (vain) attempt to quantify the Japanese text's innate humorous edge that can't actually be translated, and another part of it is just NISA employing a bunch of minimum wage twenty somethings to TL 30 hour games that are 95% character dialogue that has to be read by English voice actors. You can really hear some obvious mistranslations in the trials where almost all the dialogue is voiced, so sounding natural is given greater precedence.

My favourite example of that is with Enoshima, where the English version just fails to get across anything she says about Kamakura or even just the core conflict of the final stretch of the trial.
>[Rough TL] Both options are hope! Both options are despair! And this is how it ends! You're gonna be trapped here FOREVER!
>[Official] They're (the characters) both hope and they're both despair! A conclusion will never be fucking reached!

Rough
>(Enoshima) Kamukura was the culprit behind the “Worst, Most Despair-Inducing Incident in the History of Hope’s Peak Academy.”
>(Togami) But the one who made it all happen ... was you, wasn’t it?
>(Kirigiri) And since any information on Kamukura vanished after that incident ...
>(Enoshima) “They were probably killed by Enoshima Junko”? Ugh, don’t be so morbid! Kamukura Izuru ... lives.
Official
>(Kirigiri) Information about Izuru completely vanished after that incident...
>(Enoshima) "We thought Junko Enoshima killed them"?

>>280239408
>Gonta has a completely different character in English. As does Ouma
Really? I've only heard that Kaito is much more of a douche in the Japanese version. What's so different about Gonta, and more importantly Kokichi?

>>280239730
His character overall is just made to be more silly in English, to seemingly double down on the liar persona but it more just makes him... silly. It's common to see statements by him in Japanese that end softly be changed into boisterous statements in English, which confuses the whole spotting lies and truth aspect that makes up the whole character analysis a player will have for Ouma.
This sort of just bleeds into everything about his character. He needs to double down on the villainy when he gets Gonta killed? How about he calls everyone "stupidheads" in the middle of his ranting, stuff like that.
You can even see a greater issue with the translations handling in Ouma's motive video, which is that the translation was done by four separate people, doing four characters each, and never communicating with each other. So, Ouma's motive video changes the line about his gang being forbidden to kill, to them just committing harmless pranks. Later on in the sixth trial, Saihara references the video as a way to say that Ouma's gang has a rule against killing people... that no longer exists in the finished translation.

Really, translating these massive games always leads to these inconsistencies. You can tell Hundred Line, which is fucking ungodly massive in its amount of written text, has a translation that is barely being held together. A particularly funny line is Gaku's in pic related, where one might think the text is deliberately breaking the text box for comedic effect as to his massive crush, but nope, the TL was just that rushed it seems. Again, I don't think the translators did a bad job, they just have their guidelines and a timeframe, and Hundred Line is a nearly 200 hour game that is 95% character dialogue.

>>280240133
Japanese version of the same line.

>>280239408
Not retarded to point out how fucking stupid the nicknames are

I refuse to believe that people really watched the DR anime before playing the actual games.

>>280241044
I got into the series with V3, then THH, then UDG, then the anime, then SDR2. Somehow my biggest takeaway with the order is that Chiaki's death is, at least for me, a lot more impactful in-game after seeing the anime version of it. But then again, I didn't really care for that game's cast, so maybe that's a me issue.

>>280221193 (OP)
His death was very sad so there's that
But he (kinda) lived on through the AI he made to help his friends

>>280240133
>Hundred Line is a nearly 200 hour game that is 95% character dialogue
Oh shit I thought I was already halfway done with it
I've been enjoying so far but now I'm hyped

>>280241449
The hundred endings and routes only come into play after the prologue.
The prologue is the first thirty hours of the game.

>>280241489
One day I will come back and read whatever is under this spoiler as I trawl the internet for discussion about this game

>>280241528
byakuya dies

Trannies have been misinterpreting Utena and holding her up as an inspiration for the best part of 30 years now, at best they take everything at face value and at worst they totally reinvent characters to best fit and thus justify their own world view.