Takopi's Original Sin / Takopii no Genzai - Episode 2
What is your favorite Happy Gadget, anon?
What valuable lesson will Marina teach Takopi today, anon?
>>280231605 (OP)Takopi should introduce the Happy Glock.
>>280231823I want a Happy Glock! About to watch, what am I in for, anon?
Why does she look like she's a bitch?
>>280232080This makes me feel....things!
>>280232939Because Takopi is better at being Shizuka than Shizuka herself. Would it be wrong to want to fuck it?
>>280232723Because she is. Don't trust her cutesy face, anon!
>>280233823yesss! Time for more suffering and cunny
>>280233162>>280231749Currently downloading. I wish there was a timeline where Shizuka died and Takopi decided to take her place and live life disguised as her. That'd be so interesting.
Kill bullies. Behead bullies. Roundhouse kick a bully into the concrete. Slam dunk a bully baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy bullies. Defecate in a bully's food. Launch bullies into the sun. Stir fry bullies in a wok. Toss bullies into active volcanoes. Urinate into a bully's gas tank. Judo throw bullies into a wood chipper. Twist bullies heads off. Report bullies to the IRS. Karate chop bullies in half. Curb stomp pregnant bullies. Trap bullies in quicksand. Crush bullies in the trash compactor. Liquefy bullies in a vat of acid. Eat bullies. Dissect bullies. Exterminate bullies in the gas chamber. Stomp bully skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate bullies in the oven. Lobotomize bullies. Mandatory abortions for bullies. Grind bully fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown bullies in fried chicken grease. Vaporize bullies with a ray gun. Kick old bullies down the stairs. Feed bullies to alligators. Slice bullies with a katana.
oh boy, is this the episode where shizuka and marina put aside their differences and work things out? i can't wait!
Watched the stream of this episode today. Holy shit Shizuka is completely broken mentally now.
Sensei looks dead inside and in dire need of a rough dicking!
>>280231823Doraemon did it first
>>280231605 (OP)ummmmmmm am I supposed to feel bad? lol?
No. 1000% deserved. I smile and frolic whenever a see a vicious attacking dog be taken away and RIGHTFULLY euthanized. If you can't control your dog, then yes it deserves everything coming to it, and it is your fault as the owner. Period.
>b-but she was being meanPERIOD.
jesus fucking christ Takopii what the fuck did you do
>>280234451Smashed her skull in.
whats marinas problem bros? i hope she gets corrected ASAP
I thought you guys said this is getting a happy ending..
I feel like the presence of time travel ruins the stakes on this
imagine isekaing for your replacement father figure (a dog lmao, u just know btw)
what a fucking retarded slut (like the mom)
>>280234589Got good news for you then. Takopi broke the time rewind camera doing this
>>280234551 There's no going back now.
Nice QUALITY this episode
>>280234615What a cute couple
>>280231605 (OP)why are jap kids so hardcore
If that bitch Shizuka won't fix things herself, why should I care about her life? She's basically asking to be bullied with that attitude
>>280234635Wrong, he will still ime loop again
>>280234787he tried using it once he realized what he did. The camera wouldn't work anymore.
kek is this actually a comedy?
>>280234544damn she did actually get hard corrected lmao, based
>>280234682this so much this, id bully her with my dick but not before doing some afternoon bullying sessions where I buy her new clothes, pamper her and play vidya with her
this bitch doesnt know whats coming
>>280234511>Smashed her skull in.You could say this was...Takopi's Original Sin *mic drop*
marina didnt deserve this
someone had to pay for her father's sins, and it had to be shizuku, this is cap
>>280234823The camera only creates "checkpoints"", is not the means for the time travel. The only problem now is that he cant create any more "checkponts"
>>280234171She's so disinterested in others' suffering. Why is Shizuka such a bitch? Must be those whore genetics!
>>280234359Shizuka KUZO
>>280234635You just know they'll find a way to repair it down the line. I'm an anime only and even I can figure that, that's why time travel sucks so badly.
>>280235133>kuzomore like KUSO am i right?
>>280235132Marina should have peed on Shizuka here
Jesus fuck how strong is Takopi
Anon spotted in the background
I love when Takopi goes piiiiiiiiiiiiiiii in super high pitch voice
>>280235202>>280235277I wish they gave a very detailed and graphic scene of Takopi bashing Marina's skull in. They didn't shy away from the suicide, should have shown us brain matter flying everywhere.
>>280235158>more like KUSO am i right?HELL YEAH! No wonder she gets bullied given her shitty personality
>>280231749The importance of yuri in her life.
>>280235202Strong enough it appears.
>just kill your bullies
It's that easy
>>280235333looks like Marina could use some.
>>280234451Protecting a precious smile. Thatโs what heroes do.
>>280235201this, maybe sharted and farted too for good measure.
Damn, her dad must be a cheap bastard then.
Reminder that humanity doesnt deserve Takopi
>Thank you, Takopi, for becoming a murderer for my sake
>>280234359>Knows her student is being bullied>Her desk has "whore" and "DIE" written on it>Does nothingWhat the fuck is her problem?
>>280235477that's how I like my lolis, ready for correction
>>280234443The dog did exactly what a dog is supposed to.
>Owner is being attacked>Attack the cunt hurting your ownerLiterally what they've been bred for for thousands of years.
>>280234451How fucking strong is Takopi? She's a little girl, but to kill Marina in one hit with what is apparently a cheap plastic camera. Boy lifts.
>>280235511Careful with those spoilers, anon
>>280235430kek Carlos you're the worst! (best)
>>280235581you're assuming the material of an alien device, cap and cringe
>>280235477would you, anon...? I mean it's still fresh..
>>280235581maybe she's weak to cameras
>>280235524She needs DICK
>>280235547>>280235614Gotta act fast before it spoils. FRESH ARYAN CUNNY!
>>280231605 (OP)Ok let me get this right. Shizukaโs mom is a whore who clutch menโs balls for money, then why is Marina angry with her daughter?
My first instinct at the first episode was to intervene when Marina's beating her up behind the school. I'll show that little bitch what for.
>>280235687marina dad fuck shizuku mom
issue at home
marina blame shizuku family for issue
>>280235609Yeah sorry for the spoilers.
But seriously we don't deserve Takopi. I don't care about the child but that little pink shit is a good bean
>>280235687Because she's a stupid child whose only means of lashing out at her shitty home situation is attacking the closest thing she can get to the cause of her mom's suffering.
>>280235721he's a murderer thoughbeit, and alien too so fuck the ayys
1 marina is worth INFINITE pink blobs u niggter
>>280235748Bully apologists get the camera
>>280231605 (OP)Whoever said this anime isn't suffering porn is lying.
>The character has a reason to be abusiveBut this reason is never the focus, it's rather a device to show more abuse and suffering. I thought the second episode would be about the blonde's family routine. Instead we got more slaps, more screams, more tears, more blood and more deaths. The animation style is great tho.
>>280235755That was an accident. He just wanted to save Shizuka from that bitch goldie lock
>>280235779I didn't justify her, I just explained why this little cunt hates Shizuka.
>>280235712Me the moment I see Marina bullying Shizuka alone.
>>280235793marina just wanted to expedite the end of WHORE genetics, she literally did nothiing wrong, SHITZUKU KUSO should've just isekai'd which she did, but fucking pink blob just had to be a meddly bitch
playing the victim card is annoying
>parents were married at one time
>isn't a bastard from when her whore mother got knocked up by a client
somehow I feel she's overblowing her problems a little bit
>>280235845Yeah little shits who won't fight back or try to fix things deserve all the bullying that they get. Marina is an aryan and SHE DID NOTHING WRONG!
>>280235896100%, she had a family at a point so whats the fucking issue with this bitch? mom shouldve abandoned her in a ditch desu
>>280235524Just average teacher, or do you think real teachers care about bullying?
>>280235581>cheap plastic camera
>>280235919finally a real bully, I was sick of all the nagatoro pedos
>>280235931Kek this, I've never seen a single teacher do anything about bullying in my entire life
>>280234451>the title actually makes sense>no more do-oversok this might actually be good
>>280235958Is this AI? It seems a bit too good
>>280235931Many of them are bullied too.
>>280235954bullying is a social check anyway, if you cant resist bullying you deserve to perish
why'd the leave this detail out?
>talk shit
>get hit
Don't dish out what you can't take
>>280235996only bullies say this
>>280235984it is ai, check fingers and writing on the shirt u fucking retarded gorilla nigger
I can't take this shit seriously, all the adults are so comically incompetent.
>>280235996It is if you're male, since as long as you resist they'll leave you alone and might even make friends - what the fuck are you supposed to do if you're a woman though? They're cruel creatures
Marina couldn't possibly be a bully, she's too pretty
>>280236023>goes to all this effort to make a good image>can't be arsed to fix a fingerwtf AI doesn't even fuck up hands anymore so how do these retards manage this?
>>280236025I want to dick down the teacher and make her squeal and squirt until she starts to love life and teaching again! I hope she gets art
>>280236025It's because it's a misery porn show. But of course some idiot will say "real life is also like that".
>>280235996if you resist you only get yourself in more trouble
>>280235931no bullying in my country
i always thought it's a japam/anime thing
>>280236049>if youre a womanlucky im not i guess lmao, fuck women (literally and figuratevely)
>>280236062you solve this by using inpainting, which takes an extra 2-3 mins to fix basically.
>>280236025>>280236082are you guys retarded and not familiar with japan before they actually mobilized the entire country to fight bullying? Before they put in laws that prevented people dying from overwork?
Zoomoids don't even know recent history?
>>280235896She is ucking kid wat do you expect?
>>280236110>an extra 2-3 minsLocal's still that crap at hands? I've stuck with NAI for ages so it either outputs them good to begin with 90% of the itme or it takes 5 seconds.
bullying helped me become the man that I am today. At first I was on the receiving end, but then I learned how to properly react, made lifelong friends and became a giga bully myself lmao
fuck WEAK PEOPLE
>>280231605 (OP)This looks very sex I can't wait to watch the second episode later today. A show where the whole cast is fuckable.
>>280236101Not everyone lives in a fictional utopia
>>280236082>>280236025Extremely fucking sheltered.
>>280236172dont say that about my daughter
>>280236245seems to be gimp
>>280236245the artist (some bangladeshian nigger) traced over an ai image for reference
>>280235713>>280235748That doesn't make sense but I will take i,t. Also why is Marinaโ mom abusing her? Isn't Marina on her side?
>>280236360dude do you live in real life?
moms lashing out on daughter, it's actually a complex where parents blame their sons if the partner doesnt like them anymore (because the son is the cause mom became housewife/fat/whatever)
Just TALK WITH people and stop consuming tiktok u retarded zoomer
Can I fix Marina or can she make me worse?
>it's one of those days again
>>280235958>>280235982I don't remember this scene
>>280236447partner in bullying kino
>>280236360>Also why is Marinaโ mom abusing her?Becase she is an asshole who vents her frustations on the closest thing that is marina?
>>280236468How it felt when you had to do school (state mandated wageless slaving)
>>280236025>all the adults are so comically incompetenthuh just like irl
I kinda wished she'd got sucked into a wood chipper knees first, but this is fine too.
>>280236172even the pink blob?
>>280235382A surprisingly heartwarming tale this episode
>>280236507Yup. A s Cashier i see it all the time.
>>280236507Yup. As a cashier I see it all the time.
>>280236521I kind of wish that happened to Takopi. Nothing personal, I just want to see if he turns into confetti or something.
>>280236616>*Kneels*>*Takes the palm of her hand*>*Kisses it*>*Waits for her judgement*
>>280236616she looks so pure
>>280236616>*grabs your buds and gropes*
>>280236698>she looks so pure evilFTFY
>>280236023>fingersI thought they figured this shit out by now?
>>280236082>>280236121>>280236189It has to be some kind of bot or braindead thirdies. It's such a copy/pasted response.
It doesn't fucking matter what happens in real life or not, it's a story, it has to fit in the narrative and be executed with something approaching competency.
I've read the manga, it's misery porn from start to finish, with a cheap little bittersweet ending tacked on to hide the fact.
God this shit is so pretentious. Only redeeming quality is the OST and animation.
>>280236532>the sexiness of anyone in the show>combined with endless positivity and desire to make people happysure why not
>>280236750It is sexually gratifying
>>280236827Extremely fucking sheltered, and stupid to boot.
>>280236895G-Gomen...Marina-Chan....mercy...
>>280234167Marina would just get extra pissed off at the genki Shizuka(Takopi) and harass him until he ends up as defeated and in despair as Shizuka was.
>>280236616flick her 4head
>>280236903>copy/pasted response
>>280236886This. Marina is so fucking hot.
>>280236101This one is a Happian.
Bed-breaking sex with Marina-chan as she milks me dry
>shitposting and spoilerskill yourself
>>280236827dogshit threads, im out
>>280234372Bad Chappy! No! You were supposed to go for the throat!
>>280237091Take inspiration from the manga and hang yourself, you stupid faggot.
>>280231605 (OP)>>280231823The happy gun that makes school a happy place
>>280237078She'd be on top. They are known to be like this.
>>280236616looks very punchable
>>280236616kiss her, wait for slap, enjoy the pain
>>280236895She sees your dick.
>>280237200Wouldn't have it any other way, at first she'd be really tsundere/angry but eventually she'd lean down to kiss me as we interlock our hands.
>>280236121>>280236189>>280236827You guys are the sheltered ones here. Of course there are lots of negligent adults but real life is complex and nuanced. The show, on the other hand, makes it seem black and white, like everyone was just made of extremes. And why? Because it's misery porn. They don't care about realism.
>>280235201On all fours with one leg raised up to remind her of Chappy.
>Miiiisery porn m isery porN MISSSSERy pprnmiserypo rn!!!1!1!!
>>280236421I do. I lived in a normal house. My parents took it in each other, not on us. I was never asked to pick a side.
Ok people, this is for the smart snobs, retards don't bother. Also manga spoilers
Who did Takopi meet first? Marina Or Shizuka? And if he went back on time before each girlโs death did that timeline get erased? Is Marina doomed to die since in both 2016 and 2022 she died? How to Takopi survived Shizukaโs attack
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Uh, what's the message of this anime?
>>280238290Girls who are bullied probably deserve it
>>280235581Friendship items are made out of strong alien material so they don't break. This is why the noose in ep1 didn't break either.
Dunno if anime mentioned it yet.
Damn I was so bored this episode, nothing happened until the end.
>>280235477'When do we start masturbating?"
>>280238290This is what happens when girls don't have a father figure
>>280235477>>280235502Post the censored white version
>>280231605 (OP)>genzaiis this a pun? it means present time in japanese.
>>280234547This episode had a very happy ending
Even happier if some degenerates found the corpse in the woods and had their fun with it
>>280239338Yes. Her funeral is next week's episode. Her death is ruled an accident as most believe she fell out of a tree she was trying to climb. Takopi eventually gets his camera working again and resets.
>>280239523ๅ็ฝช = Original Sin, ็พๅจ = Present (time)
>it's misery porn
i really don't this
for one, i don't even find it that dark, relatively speaking, it's just about bullying
and two, it seems it's very clearly themed around the butterfly effect, and how even doing something with purely good intentions can still lead to bad consequences.
i guess i can understand thinking that what shizuku specifically goes through is exaggerated but it's not like children never come from broken homes or kill themselves, i really don't understand why i've seen so many people freak out over this, it's not like there's child rape unless that happens later, i'm anime-only so
>>280239684>i really don't thismeant "i really don't get this", just bash my skull in next
>>280239684it's a deconstruction of the misery porn genre, you go into it expecting le dark and edgy misery porn with tonal dissonance but it turns into a crazy funny train wreck
>>280239786oh, no wonder why i like it so much despite hating other misery porn
i'll be sure to write up the video essay soon
>>280234615Takopi wanted yuri.
dunno if vivaldi's spring was the best idea for the soundtrack, but it did make marina getting fucking murdered seem pretty funny
>>280239523>present timeHahahahaha
>>280239338She'll get better.
>>280238701I more call it cheap because it broke with one strike
>>280236014Yea I feel like it wasnโt clear how many times he tried looping. It seemed like he could have avoided this by not letting the dog take walks.
>>280240531That's assuming the damn tako is smart.
>>280240531It could have been avoided by convincing Shizuka to ask that boy who's actually a bit concerned about her to walk with them. Sad girl is dumb girl.
Here have some wonderbread. It'll make you big and strong
Do you guys have JP subs for this new anime?
>>280240676Chappy's the only thing on her mind
You just know
>>280239684Nah, it is misery porn.
>i don't even find it that darkYou would be unusual in that. The draw of the show is how dark it's willing to go in its frank depictions of suicide and child abuse, and how evil it is willing to make the characters in a relatively grounded setting. Neither of the girls are characterized in any way that doesn't relate to their abuse/bullying/etc. or else set up a tragic event for later. There is some emotional nuance in places, particularly in the subplot that hasn't started yet in the adaptation, but for the most part it goes broad and uncomplicated and is really just about wallowing in pain. And it's good at that.
>>280239576>Takopi eventually gets his camera working again and resetsCome on
>>280240834>Shizuka the next day at school
>>280235527Takopi is looking straight up her skirt how lewd
>>280236475>amnesiaGo see a doctor anon
>>280236616*whips out penis and lays down hoping to be abused*
>>280238066Met Marina in 2022. Travelled back in time to 2016 to kill Shizuka and grant Marknaโs wish so sheโd have a happy life. Got mindwiped and forgot why he travelled back in time and why he couldnโt go home.
Shizuka never really harmed him. Pinned him down and threatened him, but never really harmed him. So he managed to fly away.
>>280241167>The draw of the show is how dark it's willing to go in its frank depictions of suicide and child abuse (...) Neither of the girls are characterized in any way that doesn't relate to their abuse/bullying/etc.i don't disagree with calling it dark, i guess my issue is specifically with people calling it "misery porn" and then either criticizing or heavily overstating things based on that while ignoring the story it's trying to tell, since, again, it doesn't strike me as particularly miserable aside from having suicide in it
like i'd consider...i don't know, berserk misery porn, for lack of anything better to compare it to, and this isn't anywhere near as miserable as that.
>>280235009Yea man this little brat has no idea, I'm gonna fucking mindbreak her when I hold her hand, kiss her on the lips and tell her how much I love her and how much her life matters, she has no idea what's coming.
>>280237550There's plenty of nuance in the adults. More than most real life adults I've known in the same situations. You just want to keep spamming the same line over and over again because you've never seen actual misery porn like Narutaru.
>>280237091I was hoping the shitposters would have gotten filtered by the first episode but of course this is modern /a/ where schizos refuse to drop a show they don't like and try to ruin it for everyone.
>>280242356To be fair, the thread is full of fake spoilers mixed with real ones and the muh misery porn schizo's take on the ending is so skewed that he's either retarded or hasn't read the manga at all (probably both)
RIP Marina-chan she deserved better.
>>280239684It's typical /a/ buzzword abuse. Sub out "edgy" in pic related for "misery porn" and you get the same result.
And yeah I agree. Shizuka's bullying isn't even that extreme, it's mainly exacerbated from her being shy and having trouble speaking up for herself, which in turn is probably a result of the bullying in a vicious cycle of learned helplessness. It didn't seem like Marina was usually physical with her until after Takopi got involved either.
I wanna go to Planet Happy. It's insane that they're so well-adjusted that the concept of murder is foreign to them.
Sad that nobody is going to protect Takopi's smile. Should have landed on a different planet.
>takopi used his entire body to hit her with
How fast was he
>>280239684>>280242607 (Me)
Forgot to say that watering down the bullying any more would just be whitewashing what millions of kids actually go through. Kids as young as nine have killed themselves over bullying, anyone who calls this show unrealistic isn't just sheltered, they're a fucking retard.
>>280242607>Shizuka's bullying isn't even that extremeMarina tried to stab her eye out.
>>280231605 (OP)If only Takopi had useful gadgets like Doraemon does
>>280242356yeah well. dead mods yadda yadda shit shit yadda yadda. closing the tab again
>>280241554 That doesn't explain how Marina came back to life after she was killed in 2016. If he was mindwiped and couldn't go back home then how did Marina came back
>>280238290You shouldn't help if you don't understand the issue.
Mangabros, is it a good adaptation so far? I'm not sure if I should read the manga now or after the anime end.
>>280243565Thus far the adaptation has been very faithful
>>280242931she never died in 2016 in Takopi's first visit. she only dies in 2022 because she kills herself immediately after killing her mom and telling Takopi she wish she killed Shizuka in 2016. her only 2016 death came from Takopi this episode. everything to do with 2022 is a flashback before Takopi meets Shizuka in episode 1
KUZO IS AN USELESS WHORE GENETIC END
>>280243571Deserved worse.
Evil little cunt.
I don't know. I don't think it's misery porn. To anything that has "-porn" attached to it, I assume it to mean that it exists to just dish out whatever emotion or desire is wanted with nothing to actually think about, relate to or whatever. Takopi I think has more going on that simply showing us little girls suffering. The two things I think that give the show a lot to play with and are interesting is Takopi himself, who effectively is like a kindergarten kid from a magical cartoon world of rainbows and sunshine clashing with serious pre-teen bullying, and discovering how terrifying it is and how difficult it is to stop. Alongside having the bully not just having a tragic story too (which is over-played) but making her tragic story misguided anger at the protagonist, not just in lashing out but actively thinking that she's helping her situation by hurting someone entirely unrelated. Marina and Takopi effectively being mirrors in a way, both of them mentally unequipped to handle the scary situation they find themselves in, both doing things that to them are going to make things better, but all they do is stay the same or get worse. Marina with bullying, Takopi with being too ignorant and naive to understand bullying (and also bashing Marina's head in now.) Of course morally they're very far apart but I think they balance well.
So I don't know. I still think it's pretty fantastic with gorgeous production values and it'll probably be an AOTS contender for sure, it already is I'm just waiting for more stuff to air. I want to rape Marina. Kino title drop.
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>>280243565Yeah it's good. The animation and voice acting are very loyal to the manga and uplift it a great deal, and they fixed some logical inconsistencies from the first chapter (the time camera exposition mainly). They keep this up and it's definitely AOTS
>>280243621Then how did she get revived in the final? Was this an alternative universe? His time travel camera broke when he killed Marina with it
>>280243961Oh you haven't seen evil yet. Marina is petty evil. But the true villain is a real psychopathic serial killer
>>280244144>The animation and voice acting are very loyal to the manga>animation>voice acting>manga
>little bitch actively hunting down and stalking the MC the whole time while bullying
>made a dog get euthanized just because
>gets killed by a clueless retarded alien
she kinda deserves it. she's had plenty of time to be better, yet she just keeps on getting worse.
>>280244211>the year of our lord 2025>still reading static, silent manga
>>280231605 (OP)>>280234451I'm more surprised they don't decide to actually an hero
the attempts are more common than the homicides when it comes to these issues
>>280244494she literally did that in the first episode.
>>280242607Very good post and picture. Saved
>>280243571I hope it hurt
>And if my day keeps going this way I just might
>Break your fucking face tonight
>>280236014I think he just wanted to imply it.
>>280241167The draw is the alien trying his hardest to make things better. If it was just Marina laying the smackdown on Shizuka and killing her dog there'd be 0 appeal.
Without the positive, if-a-little-childish aloof attitude of the alien and his bumbling attempts to help and understand humans, it'd have nothing to really offer.
It's "Takopi's Original Sin", not "Bullying and Also There's an Alien".
>>280244158>His time travel camera broke when he killed Marina with ithe ascended to godhood and simply fixed the camera
>>280236168....that gave me a hardon.
>>280237297How much does the mom cost and how good is she at it? When she mentioned she'd go apologize in person to the dad, I thought she'd assume the dogeza position in the nude and offer her holes as an apology.
>>280245730Not really. Takopi serves to accentuate the primary draw by contrast.
>>280245730agreed, it doesn't really feel dark 'thanks to' Takopi. Maybe its just an issue with the adaptation since it should feel like it's a contrast and not making light of it
>>280242931Timeline 1: 2016 happens without Takopi, Marina goads Chappy into biting her, Shizuka tries to kill herself and failed, then moves away. Marinaโs life continues and meets Takopi in 2022, she dates Azuma in high school. Shizuka comes back, breaks the relationship. The shit happens with her mum and Takopiโs last resort is to travel back to 2016.
Timeline 2. As we see from the start of the anime.
Timeline 103. Takopi kills Marina in 2016
>>280243565So far it has been good, but it might be a little too faithful. For some scenes the pacing that works in the manga does not work in anime.
>>280234238correction needed
>>280234238>>280246499What would (you) do if you stumbled across Marina and Shizuka during one of the one-on-one bullying sessions?
>>280231605 (OP)Is there a thread for ep 1?
>>280246597Join Marina in bullying Shizuka, and then molest Shizuka on behalf of Marina. She could film it and then assault me afterwards for being a good piggy for her
I have no face, and and a fatbald middle aged grade schooler.
>>280235477does she get better?
She is on the openning, there is no way she is dead for real, right?
>>280243961All we know you just are thinking on rape
This show is intentionally funny, right? It feels like a black comedy. I love it.
I was NOT expecting
>>280234451 though. Really excited to see where this show goes. I might have to bail out of this thread to avoid spoilers
>>280246878Takopi's naive misreadings of the situation are clearly meant to be funny but it is doubtful that the bullying scenes themselves are intended to be comically over-the-top. It is funny that some people are saying the show is "misery porn" and others are defending the show by affirming the realism of the bullying, while still others are questioning whether the show is actually a comedy because the bullying is so ridiculous.
Kinda annoyed at how many people seem to be missing the point of things.
See so many people saying that she should die and cheering for it, till it actually fucking happens and then Takopi realizes he can't rewind anymore.
It's meant to make you question why the fuck you were cheering for a clearly mentally unstable child to die for copying the abuse from her clearly mentally unstable mother on another. You shouldn't be happy about this.
And to drive that point home, we get Shizuka's ECSTATIC reaction. She lights up for the first time ever and becomes so damn happy over it and it's clearly extremely wrong. She's mirroring the audience's feelings from just moments ago and it's meant to disturb you. But so many seem to just agree with her instead.
If you legitimately think this 10 year old should have her head bashed in after all this, you need to seek help.
>>280245730Agreed, its fun to watch it completely misunderstand the situations. Like this scene, I was laughing like an idiot when watching Takopi fly on Marina's face with the camera and the music
>>280245585 . I don't care what anyone says, this is a comedy!
>>280247118Yes, one of the major themes is that victims are not necessarily innocent and good by virtue of victimhood.
>>280247118Most people here are just shitposting. Only an actual psycho thinks murdering a child bully makes any sense
>>280247233>Only an actual psycho thinks murdering a child bully makes any senseExcept it does! Thought I think the victim should also be murdered to equalize the situation. Shizuka is a bitch who probably smells like wet dog
>>280247118Little bitch deserved it
>>280247233It's not just here though.
Seen people in youtube comments and even on Reddit saying that Marina was unforgivable for what she did to Shizuka and her dog, deserved what happened, or made them happy to see her dead.
Like, shit, I expect that shit here. But seeing it more widespread is just disheartening.
>>280247278>Most people here are just shitposting.Like I said
>>280246623does anyone else hate that blond cunt
>>280247118media literacy is at an all time low
So I guess I'm the only person here dropping my rating of these series by a star because its use of "original sin" is theologically incorrect? It's not a sin you COMMIT, it's the universally-shared state of sin you're BORN INTO, goddamnit!
They really managed to fuck the pacing up, huh?
>>280247293Unironically the younger generation have lost any sense of nuance when it comes to both fictional and real people, either you're a cool based ray of light or you need to be skinned alive.
>>280247606No one cares, retard.
>>280247606Original means new in this context. Every time Takopi rewinds he ends fucking up in a different way. Thus original sin.
>>280247606You may raise your rating again by the end. "Original Sin" in the title definitely does not refer to the murder of Marina. There is a plausible interpretation of the title which is theologically correct.
Marina shouldn't have died, how is she supposed to raise my children and be a loving housewife after I tiger drop her abusive mother if she's dead?
Based episode. I like Marina but psychopathic kids are a menace and should be put down early.
>>280247906I had hoped that might be the case. I shall suspend judgment.
>>280247777But in this case "theologically incorrect" means "semantically incorrect," and what is /a/ for if not arguing semantics?
>>280247118What you're saying makes the assumption that most people are watching this to get anything other than entertainment out of it.
The execution of the themes and juxtaposition of the "happy innocent" and "extremely tragic and disturbing" elements are not done very well, it subconsciously makes people not connect with it on anything other than a black and white surface level.
I agree with you on a general level, but on the other hand, like I said, I just don't think that this particular handling of those ideas justifies that level of critique.
It's like trying to criticize people for making light of violence in something like JoJo's vs mental illness in Homunculus.
In typical Japanese fashion, this all could be avoided if the dad wasn't cheating.
>>280231605 (OP)Why did Takopi hit her with the camera?
>>280248353He wanted to protect Shizuka and make her smile (which he achieved).
>>280248353Despair. He's scared shitless of Marina after she stabbed him.
>>280248353To give us all an up skirt of Marina.
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why is the blonde always the bully in these?
Can Takopi just kill people that easily normally, like he has alien strength or was the Camera made of some alien metal that made killing her super easy?
>>280248504Must not be a very good metal since the camera broke easily
>>280231823>>280237178This was my very thought lmao
Problems such as this require effective and efficient permanent, final solutions.
>>280248693If friendship is magic and magic is killing your bully... I don't know where I'm going with this but there's something.
>just kill your bully heheheh
how long before some mentally unstable kid imitates this and the show is taken off the air?
>>280248752Higurashi did much worse and did not get taken off the air at all
>>280248752No kid is watching this
>>280248752>>just kill your bully hehehehWhat's wrong with this? It's rationally and morally correct.
>how long before some mentally unstable kid imitates this and the show is taken off the air?That would actually be a mentally stable kid. And it won't happen.
>>280248693No fucking way...
>mental stability is when you let some violent subhuman retard perpetrate acts of torture on you for an extended period of time until you kill yourself
Kek
>Hoping for loli ryona rape
>it's just misery slop
I don't see the appeal
>bullies will destroy your stuff, beat you or even mutilate/kill/drive you to suicide
>nobody will do anything to help
>but you have to get along with them in the end
>either that or become a murderer yourself
This is so retarded, did I just get lucky that I find most of this shit unrealistic? I get that miseryslop is appealing to some people and that's fine, but I roll my eyes whenever they say it's deep or realistic or whatever
Takopi is so cute it's not fair what happened to him just because marina is a bitch and adults are useless
>>280235996Bullying CAN go too far, anon
>>280248987The greentext seems pretty realistic to me.
What would you do in such situation, or what do you think would happen?
In many cases you can just beat up the bullies and they'll just stop, but in others they'll double down. You might move out and that might be enough, but wherever you move might still have bullies, and there are cases where you can't move out at all (MC here is both poor and a child so she can't move).
>This is so retarded, did I just get lucky that I find most of this shit unrealistic?
Feels realistic to me, I remember years ago girl I knew chimped out against her bullies and attacked one of them and got in trouble over it while the bully she attacked got a slap on the wrist
>>280249059Woops, somehow fucked up quoting
>>280248987
>>280235996>if you cant resist bullying you deserve to--AAACK!!!
>>280249059But did the bully keep doing it
>>280249037Never been in such situation, I guess that's why I don't get it. I'm not even particularly attractive or well-adjusted
>>280249176Have you? And no, not "cyberbullying" pussy
Anything like what happenes in takopi and similar miseryslop
>>280249236>it didn't happen to me so it can't possibly happen to othersBabe, there are many cases over the internet, and that's only the ones that get reported. Here's one from a short while ago:
https://nypost.com/2025/06/25/us-news/four-5th-grade-girls-devised-sinister-plot-to-kill-boy-fake-his-suicide-cops/
Just like this anime, there are songs and other media about this as well. Example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9tsfkdgByA
>>280249165>But did the bully keep doing itSurprisingly yes though I guess them going to different schools after that helped, still it doesn't change my outlook on bullying in that, 9 times out of 10 the adults barely do anything to stop it.
>>280249165You being that oblivious to your own enviroment is the living proof of the story that adults never notice the horrendous shit happening to bullied kids in schools.
>>280249331>>it didn't happen to me so it can't possibly happen to othersYou're the retard here if that's what you got from my posts
Did you even read that article?
>but some students had overheard the details of the murder plot and informed school officials before it happened.>Babelol ok fag
>>280249391I'm not oblivious, it just didn't happen around me
Then again it's not like I'm still a student, kids nowadays shoot up their schools over trivial shit like memes
>>280249037The level of violence between these elementary schoolers seems unrealistic. Imagine how ridiculous this scenario would be with preschoolers. They're not even strong enough to hurt each other.
>>280249420>You're the retard here if that's what you got from my postsThat's literally what you said, faggot.
>Did you even read that article?Yes. How does your quote invalidate anything I said? And I told you, this is one case of many that GET REPORTED. There are more that don't, because the kids just suffer in silence or kill themselves like this anime's MC.
>lol ok fagYou're obviously a faggot or a retarded female, so I'm trying to ease the facts into your emotions-only brain.
>>280249527Sigh...
Bait or cope, you choose.
>>280249507>It didn't happen to me, so it doesn't exist>BUT IM NOT OBLIVIOUS GUISElmao
>>280249529They plotted to kill that kid over a break up, still fucked up but it wasn't a victim of bullying tortured and brought to suicide
>emotions-only brain.Nice projection, you're upset I deny whatever victim complex you keep carrying
>>280235581Maybe she was a glass canon.
>>280249580It literally doesn't exist, whatever real life case of bullying victims killing themselves you may know or find aren't at all like in miseryslop, that's the point
>>280249694Real-life cases are being posted and you're just dismissing them because...?
Though ironically this is a case of fiction being less ridiculous than real life, it makes more sense for a tortured girl like Shizuka to kill herself than say, a real life teen doing it over social media faggotry
>>280248693LET'S FUCKING GOOOO
>>280249726Real life case of a failed murder plot over a break up, your post would make sense if it was at least an actual suicide report
while reading this part in the manga I was imagining something more perilous than just shirt grabbing. like maybe neck wringing or pressing down on her neck with her foot. something that really makes it look like Shizuka's about to die
>>280249748Aw ran out of things to say, sweaty? It's ok sister you can leave now
>>280249802How is your brain so smooth that you need the case to be a 1:1 to a work of fiction to understand that this type of stuff actually happens in real life and it's not just misery porn?
>>280249836>murder plot foiled because students and adults interviened vs poor little girl clearly harassed and beaten and absolutely nobody does anythingGee, anon.
It's misery porn, and I've said that's fine if that's your issue. Just not realistic
>>280249902>>280249826>comes into thread where everyone agrees the actions depicted are more or less true to real life and that takopi is based for what he did>"REEEEEE THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN TO ME IT CANT HAPPEN IT CANT HAPPEN MISERY POOOOOORN">gets called a retard>"M-misery porn, y-you can leave now"Kek.
>read the manga years ago
>forgot about most of the story
This is the comfiest way, I can't be spoiled and it feels like I'm experiencing something new.
>>280249902>Adults intervened only after being warned>No adults whatsoever in the weeks and months preceding the eventThis literally happens in the 1st episode, please leave that extra chromosome somewhere else, it's embarassing.
I like the op and ed, but I kinda wish shinsei kamattechan would have done a song for this show, they feel like a perfect both sound wise and content wise. Maybe that's too on the nose though.
>>280249981Same here, I didn't really find the manga anything super impressive at the time but I'm liking this adaptation a lot
I think this is one of those stories that you just won't understand if you're sheltered.
Genuinely, if you're some sheltered first-world suburban kid who grew up in a healthy, middle class family, this story is not for you, and you won't like it because you will think the characters' motivations and behaviors make no sense.
>>280249970lol imagine being this butthurt because somebody doesn't take your slop as seriously as you
no wonder, you probably see any opposition as life-ending bullying irl
>>280249994Are we even talking about the same thing? Yeah no shit adults intervened after being warned, the murder plot was caused by a break up not long-term bullying you retard
>>280250175Unironically this.
>>280250175>Genuinely, if you're some sheltered first-world suburban kid who grew up in a healthy, middle class family, this story is not for youThis is bullshit because it's exactly that kind of people that are more sensitive over this kind of shit, Japan isn't some third world country either (yet anyway)
>and you won't like it because you will think the characters' motivations and behaviors make no sense.People make no sense as it is
>>280250175>>280250241kek this is what miseryfags unironically believe
>>280250180I'm laughing at your "opposition", retard. Your argument is literally "didn't happen to me reee" and nitpicking and cherrypicking examples provided.
You get called a retard and a faggot for it, but you double down instead. Nonsensical clown behavior. That's why I'm keking.
>>280250175I saw a few commenters on another site complaining that the adults don't do anything to stop Marina. Got a good chuckle out of that
Wait you anons actually take misery porn seriously? I was under the impression this was the loli ryona thread. How disappointing
>>280248909I root for Takopi. I hope he evolves into a Giga Tentacle Rape-mon and set things straight for these mesugaki
>sad that her dog might actually be fucking dead
>how fucking dare you to be sad *PUNCH*
yes i know such people somehow fucking exist but they are considerd murderers not haha bad bully man
the fact that she even reacts this way is fucking retarded thank god she died
Takopi is the real victim here. He only wanted to use his happy gadgets...
>>280250343>Still insisiting that his "example" that isn't even about bullying countslmao
>>280250363That would be nice
>>280250381This
I want to make babies with Marina (JC)
>>280240013It was to symbolise the end of Shizuka's emotional winter and the blooming of her hopeful smile
>>280250399Look at this convenient list I just found with a single google search:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicides_attributed_to_bullying
Go ahead and nitpick every single one, retard.
>>280250347They don't understand miserykino...
>>280240013I think it was fucking great.
>>280250439>(JC)Ew, old hag
>>280235581Child skulls aren't as hard
>>280248693Did someone say magic?
>>280250604I slammed the back of my cousin's head into a wall corner when we were younger than these girls and split his skull and he ended up with just stitches. Even if Takopi hit her with a rock, unless he's way stronger than he looks it really shouldn't have killed her in one shot.
>>280247606The original Japanese title do not have roots in Christianity
>>280250490>First five cases over cyberbullying:/
I suppose without digging too deep, Danny Chen's case is the most similar as he was constantly hazed and tortured, poor guy. Good job anon
>>280248752It's not "on air" in the traditional sense, it's streaming only specifically because the show's too dark for TV
It's also region-locked on normalfag streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime so hopefully there's less moralfags seeing the show
It's crazy how the advent of streaming-only content hasn't reduced censorship in any wsu
Bros, I don't think I can keep watching this anime. It makes me start crying and I get angry at the blonde bitch. Shizuka's facial expressions convey so much and it's getting me too worked up.
Real magic is killing bitches
>>280250860You should be getting angry at her dad though, he's the one fucking things up for everyone.
Oh... Okay, so I was meant to be angry. Good job, Takopi. Now he just has to do that before she loses Chappy.
>>280250981Uh, about chappy, Marina was right, he's not with her dad.
>Every woman around you becomes a psycho murderer or kill themselves because you cheated
lol wtf
>>280251153Yeah so don't do it
>>280251212The solution is to never stick your dick in crazy
Or be born as gigachad and have a harem
>>280251063Well Takopi fucked up big time then.
>>280248752Shizuka didn't kill her bully, she hallucinated an octopus doing it.
>>280234167I feel like this idea has been done before? Does anyone know what I'm thinking of?
>>280251385I can think of a couple things. The story of Musashibo Benkei, a certain doujin where the monster woman replaces a boy with a shikigami so he can go with her into whatever spirit realm she's from after he frees her from the family temple.
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>>280249981Higurashi seems goofy as fuck compared to this series. Maybe ryukishi07 will get it right with the new Silent Hill game with its warning labels and ban in Ausfailia.
>>280251243If he was down that bad for some whore pussy, he at least could have gone to another town far away, but the retard got entangled with the only one in that small town
>>280231605 (OP)Why does Shizuka look like she's a huge bitch? Doesn't seem like she's a good person at all
>>280234451a hobo is gonna have his way with that loli corpse.
>>280251454Satoko's situation is far more realistic than Shizuka's even if Ryu7 himself admitted he portrayed social workers as less competent than they would realisticaly be
>>280251454Ryukishi07 was a social worker, Satoko refusing to get help because of her brian worms makes more sense than Shizuka getting beat up daily and nobody helping because
>>280251556her environment isn't really conducive for making a good person
>Manga ends with Shizuka and Marine becoming friends
Make it make sense, at least Marina just no longer bullying Shizuka would've been better
>>280251556One of the few things the series gets right is that she becomes just as evil given the opportunity.
Whore moms dont make good people.
>>280251725Does she? In general or just towards Marina?
>>280251725>One of the few thingsone of the many things
>>280251385I've seen Uso no Kodomo posted on /a/ before, but it's more of a normal comedy. It's about a tanuki ignorant of human culture shapeshifting to pose as a human and she ends up living with the human's parents.
Can I keep the Marina corpse? For research
>>280251838Comedy? This was sad.
>>280249527You are telling me that you never grabbed a chair to beat the shit out of someone when you were 10 years old (I avoided the head, I am too much of a coward to seriously want to hurt someone).
Kids are violent and they can seriously hurt each other at that age.
By the way, I wasn't a bully, the bully hated me for some reason so he bothered me when my brother wasn't around like putting the trashcan in my head or kicking me from behind.
Unlike Shizuka, I retaliated and I was lucky that the bully's friend were cowards (they didn't help him).
I also had good grades so the teachers always sided with me, I even blamed some of my mischiefs on that piece of shit like the time I broke the windows, the time I accidentally broke the principal's car (in my defense, it was the school's infrastructure fault, probably) and the time I made a fire in the classroom. That fucker was expelled.
>>280251939Based revenge chad.
>>280249527The least realistic part is how Machiavellian Marina is
>>280251939Are you sure you weren't the bully
>>280251939I also imagined saving the school from an active shooter bro
We all did
Why are teacherfags like this?
I get that taking sides can be difficult, but there couldn't be a more obvious case of one-sided escalating abuse
>>280234354Eyebrows and lashes should also be blonde
>>280252062I am not from burgerland.
I would never try to defend myself in a place where any retard can get a gun.
>>280252068Most teachers shouldn't be teachers at all. They're only doing it because that's the only career path they found.
>>280251939>I even blamed some of my mischiefs on that piece of shit like the time I broke the windowsYou were the bully.
>>280231749Aim for the head
>>280252068The teacher needs dick, once she is fully satisfied she's gonna love teaching and life again. She needs the Happy Dildo!
>>280252437Gotta go after me though
>>280252467there's enough holes for both
>>280252233Did he also draw the fattest, grossest fucker you've ever seen to go with her? hope not
>>280234884Tragedy and comedy are not mutual exclusives the famous tragic-comedy genre goes back to the old classics. Read "The Visit" from Durrenmatt and Nabokov's "Pale Fire". Especially The Visit is light enough to be enjoyed by even gen a's during literature classes in middle and high school.
>>280251725It seems this is a worse version of Shiki. It took until the end of this episode for any characterization of Shizuka besides her being a depressed elementary schooler.
>>280252480her butt is mine btw
>>280251616Anon you shouldn't say such things...
was i misled byu the opening?
Chappy makes me Happy and without Chappy there's no more Happiness
>>280234216So how did she find Shizuka wherever she went? That part didn't make sense.
>>280235581made out of friendship and there is nothing more stronger than friendship, you silly baka!
>>280234451but what about chappy?
>>280234451HAHAHAHAHA She got Happy Bonked.
>>280250942Don't forget Shizuka's mother neglecting her
>>280252979He was sent to live with her dad who is real and cares about her enough to take in a dog but not enough to take in his daughter.
>>280236616>*pulls out Happy Camera and bonks her with it*
>>280242510Marina deserved worse
>>280252012>>280252327He asked for it. It has been a long time ago so I can't claim to remember it perfectly, but I do remember that he was the one who started the whole shit by fucking my pencil case then kicking my sheen.
I also remember when things became worse it was when my brother saw how he hit me from behind, my brother was seriously pissed off and beat the shit out of him (he was also a top scorer so most things he did was forgiven). He started to hit me harder whenever my brother wasn't around which was mostly in the classroom.
I barely remember my childhood, but I do remember how much that shithead made my life miserable and how relieved I was when he was expelled.
>>280253126you're right, she deserved me
>>280247606>>280248057Nobody cares about theology. That's not what this is about.
>>280253135I dunno anon you should've hit him back and left it there. I guess the staff is more to blame, trusting the word of a child.
>>280234451He fixed the problem
Damn dude that was a cold as fuck title drop
It makes no sense that Shizuka just submits to whatever torment Marina puts her through. Even when they are alone 1 v 1 she just takes it like a bitch.
I can only assume it's the guilt she feels from taking Marina's father away that keeps her subservient. Probably because she also lives in a fatherless family.
And it's the moment that Takopi kills Marina when Shizuka can finally abandon her guilt and subconscious. The current Shizuka is now someone with nothing to lose and nothing holding her back
>>280235477It'd be better if she stayed dead
>>280253559As hard as your cock is when you look at Marina
Bullying because your life is otherwise unhappy is weak as fuck. The real ones do it because it's fun.
>>280253324I did hit him back with the chair so he stopped hitting me nor putting the trash can in my head, but he still made fun of me whenever he could.
I never knew why he hated me so much, I didn't hate him, I just wanted that shithead to leave me alone and he did once he was expelled.
Also, I never did a mischief for the sake of blaming him, I blamed him to get out of trouble.
From the ones I remember:
I broke some windows when I was playing ball in the classroom (the game was very fun, the goalkeeper changes when he hit someone with the ball. Once 10 goals are made, the goalkeeper is kicked in his ass until he leaves the classroom). I have shitty aim so I broke multiple windows. The shitter wasn't playing with us, but I blamed him anyways.
The time I broke the principal's car. We were playing ball in the classroom. We throw a basketball to each other (there is a 3 turns cooldown to avoid focusing on 1 single guy) and whoever throws it with a shitty aim or fails to grab the ball is kicked in the ass until he leaves the classroom. I had shitty aim so I the window frame which fell and crashed the principal's car. See, it was the school's fault, there is no way that a skinny 10 years old kid have so much strength.
The time I made a fire in the classroom was because I was making a stinky bomb using a table tennis ball, a rubber band and aluminum foil, well, I messed up.
The shitter was expelled when the principal's car broke.
>>280244158Asspull, that's how
>>280253555Depends on the kid. Some are utterly unable to hit back.
>>280253555How sheltered are you? You don't know what helplessness feels like.
i never understood the lunch from episode 1 and why shizuka needed to eat it and why didn't want to
this shit show has psychologically bullied me back into listening to black metal again to recycle the rage
FUCK YOU I ALREADY GREW OUT OF THIS
>>280243571>>280243961This, fuck that little cunt.
>>280248752It already happened a long time ago. How do you not know about Nevada-tan? Except it was not so much bullying as a falling out between two girls who were friends.
>>280254032It's a Japanese cultural custom, "mottainai." You'll pick up on this sort of thing as you watch more anime.
>>280244158>>280253817Kinda an asspull, yeah. But honestly I'll take it since this series needed SOMETHING good to happen by the end.
Basically Takopi asspulls that, by giving up his physical form, he can fix the camera and use it one more time. It seems that this new timeline it resets to is like the original timeline before Takopi showed up, but he was able to leave memories/messages to the children he interacted with.
>Shizuka still remembers Takopi from their time together>Marina seems to have memories of his time with her in the future that never happened>Azuma at least got the message he asked Takopi to give his past self to "have a fight with his brother"These bits wind up being enough to set everyone on a better path. Azuma gets over his brother issues, and Shizuka & Marina manage to trauma bond instead of giving into the violence.
The timeline then continues similar to the original one, including Marina's mom cutting her face bad and all that. But in this timeline, she became Shizuka's friend instead of convincing her to try and kill herself, which hopefully leads to a better future for all of them.
>>280252068I want to know the teacher's backstory. Will we get to learn more about her? Will we get hentai of her?
>>280254262I never understood why Azuma had that issue with his brother. The parents may be shitty, but the brother was geniunely caring and loved him.
>Anime only don't know about the real Sin
>>280253864>muh sheltered
>>280254380You're either sheltered or autistic
>>280254297okay but his brother's still better than him in every way. his brother's less a person to him and more a goalpost that he will never reach
>>280253833It's not just not being able to hit back. She also doesn't just run away or at least try and defend herself. Like at that point you're actually looking forward to it.
>>280248902batoruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
miniature booooooooooooooooooooooooooooombs!!!!!
>>280254406He wasn't wrong about the small sized bombs though.
>>280254400>shelteredMaybe you don't know what that means
>autisticAutists aren't immune to bullying or helplessness
>>280254405You don't get it anon, it's misery porn
If Shizuka was smart or fought back we wouldn't feel that bad for her
>>280254255i know wasting it bad but why didn't shizuka wanted to eat it
>>280254477Autists have trouble understanding the feelings of other people
>>280254477Bullied poorfags trying to gatekeep suffering is dumb but your character analysis is worse
>>280254516she was full, she was given a shit load of food
I wouldn't let someone of my same stature stalk and beat me up daily unless I got a kick out of it
>>280253555https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness
If you got reincarnated into Shizuka's body, what would you do?
>misery porn
>sheltered
Less of these buzzwords next week, please
>>280254592This post ironically sounds insecure. But even leaving individual psychology aside, consider that there are factors other than physical size which might discourage retaliation eg social status.
>>280254879The emotional backing also plays a huge role here.
I was very small, but a big part of why I fought back was because my brother and father told me that I need to do it if I don't want to change school and my brother also told me that he will come if I call him. If they take care of the bully, other bullies will attack me later, that was their logic and i still think it was right.
Of course I was afraid, but the feeling of knowing that my brother could save me helped a lot.
In Shizuka's case, she is alone. No friend, no family who cares for her and Chappy can't talk.
>>280247118>Kinda annoyed at how many people seem to be missing the point of things.No, I didn't miss the point. I just don't care.
>It's meant to make you question why the fuck you were cheering for a clearly mentally unstable child to die for copying the abuse from her clearly mentally unstable mother on another. You shouldn't be happy about this.The word bullying doesn't do justice to how horrible Marina's actions were. Having a troubled family life doesn't excuse her. I can acknowledge the complexity of the situation and that in real life these things have nuance while also being happy that Marina, a fictional character in a fictional story was killed.
>She lights up for the first time ever and becomes so damn happy over it and it's clearly extremely wrong. She's mirroring the audience's feelings from just moments ago and it's meant to disturb you.See, this is where it loses me. Marina made her life a living hell. She totally broke her. Shizuka is traumatized beyond belief. In her eyes, Marina dying means she's finally free from all the torment and abuse. Why should I be surprised that she's happy about it?
Can't wait for all the Shizuka sympathizers and sheltered posters to get their comeuppance in the following weeks
>>280254879Yeah this
It might be obvious to some already, but they're living in a small town (in Hokkaido, apparently)
Word like "whore's daughter beats up classmate (ignoring the bully part)" spreads around and it's over for her socially
>>280254849>shelteredHow else would you describe someone who knows so little about the horrors of the world that they don't even understand how learned helplessness works?
>>280254965People typically feel some dismay at the sight of violent death, even of someone they hate. Shizuka's perfectly positive reaction should be surprising because it is not normal.
I like how the ending implied that
Marina taught Shizuka how to take a shower and put on make up. Meanwhile Shizuka was there to comfort Marina when she got the scar
Marina is for ojisan and ntr
>>280255106After what Shizuka went through, I'm not surprised. Someone you hate is an understatement. Imagine if someone kidnapped some children, held them prisoner, beat them everyday, abused them, and tortured them to near death. Then someone kills their captor and frees them. If the only emotion they expressed was relief that their suffering is over, I would not be surprised.
>>280255265 Marina is for headpats and ice cream
>>280254966How fast you go from "bitch got what she deserved" to "Marina did nothing wrong" while reading was great, can't wait for the future Shizuka hijinks animated
>>280255348I was never in those camps.
Marina was the bully and needed to be stopped, but I never felt it was right for her to get killed. She was 10.
Shizuka needed to be saved and I understood her relief, but a kid shouldn't be so happy to see another kid getting murdered. I actually felt bad for Shizuka because that shows how broken she was after all the shit Marina did to her.
I was cheered at the very end, when the damn tako died. That bitch always creeped the fuck out of me and I I believe he made everything worse.
This OP is great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciFvLHCThdg
>>280254297>>280254402Azuma's issues are that he stacked himself up to his brother like his mother instilled in him with the pancake bullshit. When ultimately, all they needed to do was talk. That's why he asked Takopi to tell his past self to fight with his brother. Because when he finally confronted his brother, he realized what an amazing and understanding person he was with how willing he was to listen and accept Azuma's issues.
The whole point of the final chapter is that the true, ultimate Happy Gadget is talking and sharing your issues properly.
Though this message is kinda shafted by how Marina beat the shit out of Takopi when he tried to talk as Shizuka to her. Talking there got him stabbed in the eye.
So maybe the point is more to not just talk but to reach out in a more meaningful way than just insisting things will be fine. Words with conviction rather than platitudes.
so in the end takopi fixed their life, that means all those fuck ups are gone or just left out for interpretation?
for some reason I have this idea in my head that the ending of the manga is the equivalent to a cute puppy concluding the best way to stop a fight between two people is to light itself on fire and burn to death in front of them so those present can bond over their shared horror at what they've just been forced to witness.
>>280255665You mean in the like actual end of the manga?
In that case, no he didn't fix everything. He outright admits he can't fix their lives or their families. The only actual thing he changed was getting Azuma to fight with his bro earlier and get Shizuka and Marina to connect through their shared grief/suffering.
>>280231823I'm going to introduce Shizuka to my Happy Cock
it's not easy to get me to celebrate a loli's violent deathbut wow Marina is awful. Deserved.
>>280231605 (OP)any cute loli art?
>>280253666This. I used to bully this girl when I was a kid. I would do things like flick her face, put post-it notes with things written on them on her, call her names and tease her, take her things and hold them out of her reach, go out of my way to target her in gym class, stuff like that. I just thought her reactions were so fun. Anyway, to make a long story short, we're married now.
>>280255573There was nothing Shizuka could've realistically said that would've made Marina forgive her. Takopii was literally a deus ex machina in that scenario.
I'm more convinced that the actual message was misery loves company when it comes to the two brats
>>280255947no one deserves death for a bit of bullying u fucking retard, rope like shtizuku faggot
>>280256182>a bit of bullyingHoly mother of downplaying
>>280247293Most of the Internet now is like forum Internet in 01. People are basically undeveloped as online entities
>>280256284get over it retard, you as the recipient of bullying are being offered a unique lifetime opportunity for personal development and growing up.
The challenge of adapting, conforming and overcoming an obstacle.
BUT NO, we have to protect these inept retards from bullying! What? The number of faggots/trannies/degenerate people is growing???? how could it be!?!?!?!
STOP
PROTECTING
RETARDS
>>280256127The only thing that would have fixed them is my dick
>>280256357>overcoming an obstacleWell, Marina was the obstacle and that was an efficient way to overcome it.
Marina was actually keeping Shizuka in check. Without her around Shizuka becomes unhinged
>>280247606Even Japanese dictionaries explain Genzai as "the sin that Adam and Eve committed"
I guess it refers to his loss of innocence.
>>280256587Very good toxic yuri relationship
>>280256587this so much this
>>280256357If you want to teach children how to overcome obstacles, you should give them an easy tutorial first, not throw them straight into NIGHTMARE DIFFICULTY
Bullying is impossible to escape once you reach the bottom of the school's social hierarchy. No one wants you to escape, not even the teachers.
>>280255573I'm happy for Azuma, but the ending also spelt out why he was so drawn to helping Shizuka and wow that made him look so much worse than needed