>>280262297 (OP)not my problem. learn japanese or kill yourself
>>280262317>not my problem>goes to thread to talk about it anywaydilate
>>280262297 (OP)both mean the same thing lol, you just want to change the original negative tone into a neutral unnatural one
incel makes it more funny
>>280262563black and nigger mean the same thing too by that logic
>>280262563anyone who thinks virginity is a negative thing is probably a terrible human being
>>280262297 (OP)Isn't that the same thing?
Involuntary Celibate is pretty much virgin
>>280262563>>280262652all incels are virgins
not all virgins are incels
you did learn about squares and rectangles when you were a child, right?
>>280262563>>280262652are you people retarded? every virgin isn't an incel
>>280262838No, I learned about the birds, the bees and why the jewish and black races is superior to mine.
>>280262297 (OP)>three episodes out>now sixis the whole season releasing all at once? is the shit on netflix or something? whats happening?
>>280262976Does that imply she targets volcel?
>>280262644Nothing wrong with not having sex, there's everything wrong if you think that you are superior to others because of it or if you want to force that onto others
>>280262614I know that racists like you are freaking out over those localizations so I prefer for you to use slurs so that people can tune you off.
>>280262976all virgins are incels. incels refuse to have sex with women, the localization fits
>>280262297 (OP)I love this little slut, makes me want to write a crackship fanfic where the Dandadan boys go to her maid cafe and she tries to suck them off at every opportunity.
>>280263206They should make a hentai spinoff with her
>>280262317>not my problem. learn japanese or kill yourself>not my problem>but I'll whine and bitch about it like a woman
>>280263291one of the lead directors of frieren did it with frieren so why not kek
>>280262317I've learnt japanese exactly for this reason but still watches subs because it's more convenient and I can complain about retarded translations.
>>280262297 (OP)>็ทใฏ็ซฅ่ฒRetard
>>280262838I'm not invested in retarded internet lingo
She says "virgins" in every major release so I don't understand what the weebniggery is all about
Did we really need a full frontal feet closeup in the OP?
>>280263903The usual suspects yelling at clouds.
>>280263903so the subtitles don't match every other major release, got it
>>280262297 (OP)She doesn't say virgin, she says ็ซฅ่ฒใใใใใใใค
We already discussed this to death in the episode thread, we don't need further threads followed by people who don't even know the line and are posting what looks like phone screenshots of some instagram-tier site. Kill yourself.
>>280263939*sigh* I'll never get white supremacists complaining about getting ripped off.
>>280262297 (OP)I understand Incel nowadays is just the 2020 version of calling someone a virgin but they aren't the same
>>280262838They aren't. inceldom is much more than not having a sex. even older virgins aren't incels. inceldom is an ideology based around self-soothing behaviors like blaming external factors for internal struggles, for example
>it's not my fault I'm fat and ugly and don't shower regularly, I just have bad genetics>it's not my fault there are no women falling over me it's the chads who took them all>it's not my fault "females" go for the abusive assholes instead of "nice" guys like me, women's suffrage made them this wayNot getting laid doesn't mean you're an incel
>>280263163Congrats on having managed to live so long in spite of your dysgenic disposition
>>280262297 (OP)That's not the full sentence.
I agree incel is a bad translation, but she's specifically saying she targets boys who are insecure about their virginity, because she likes to tease them about it.
But incel is a derogatory term and they wouldn't be using it in this context.
>>280262297 (OP)Top one is more sovlful.
>>280262838>all incels are virginsThe irony with this post is comical. You are looking at the world in black and white just like how incels do. Incel for the most part is an age thing, men these days graduate and when they graduate many of them are at the lowest point in their life, they are inexperienced and now have to get a job meanwhile they see women graduate and live off onlyfans and they don't think this is fair and shit like this turns many men into incels thinking all women are like this and whores which isn't true (they look at the world in black in white just like you are with your post) as these men grow older and gain more world experience they come to realize this thus they stop being incels
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The subs I watched didn't have that line.
Femcels really shouldn't be the one to cast stones though considering the story is about a femcel vampiress grooming a 15 year old boy to literally kill himself because she's an undead pedophile promising eternal damnation, an abomination that deserves naught but Our Lord's holy crucifix shoved in her face and dispatched by stake or flamethrower AMEN
>>280264294yawn, just say the n word instead of writing a substack article
>>280263966>>280265176All of the (actual) girls are a lot hotter than Nazuna.
>>280262297 (OP)Why the fuck are they using cheesy internet slang instead of more comprehensive words here to begin with?
That person deserves to lose their job.
>>280264505Soul?
It's cringey and amateurish, like it was done by a 12 year old. If I was the director I'd want to kill this translator for ruining their art. It's safe slang too which is worse. They will literally mistranslate shit to work around more offensive slang nowadays, but this shit stays? Huh?
Ixion Saga DT's entire joke would be completely ruined if it aired today and you let retarded localizers handle it.
Strength through celibacy
>>280266010Until the lack of interaction allows monopolies to d&c and manipulate people and crash the economy with no survivors.
>>280262297 (OP)>50% of the lines are shit in every version released>only complain about 1 line from 1 particular version and halfass your researchThis is why they get away with it so easily.
>>280266091don't care, they're already doing it. I am never going to breed with a 3D woman so the future of the planet doesn't concern me too much. After me, the abyss.
It should have been "Midori targets guys who obsess over their virginity."
>>280266305Ok, but why do you like boring romcoms so much?
Don't you want something engaging?
>>280262297 (OP)Incel type detected
>>280266771>claude is stupidThe real answer is because good translators get cancelled and so only cringe and "safe" women and faggots translate shit without powerful language that actually means something.
So the translation ends up:
>boring and monotonous>full of meme words for viral spread reasons and because it's these translators equivalent of being "clever"It's not clever, it's fucking repugnant, robotic and dumb. It's like that teacher at school that tries to be "with it" with the kids kind of stupid.
And it's no wonder why translators often get caught simply making up shit to try and put in their "cool" memespeak.
>>280266787You know incel is offensive to rape victims right?
I know that translator doesn't know.
>>280266757I don't know, patronizing weeabo, I like the nightly theme and the girls are pretty, I don't seek "engagement" in my romcoms (I've watched a lot of stuff between Love Hina and Kanokari). I was a day-0 watcher for S1 and I grew kinda attached
>>280266943I have to wonder if part of it is good translators have better things to do, so translation is kind of a bottom of the barrel job.
>>280267027The good translators are working in more important things, like legal and medical shit. Pay is better and the work is ironically easier.
>>280267010>patronizing weeaboI haven't watched anime for ages and part of it is cringey boring writing and even more cringey boring translation.
I want powerful writing that fucking mean something. Not fluttery hagmemes like "incel" which sound like a bureaucratic concatenation of words with a terribly narrow scope and repugnant sounding phonetics (i.e. made to sound dull and office-y/legal/empirical shit).
What's worse is that AI somehow is better at avoiding this because it has a more intelligent linguistic IQ than most of these translators. It is literally built on linguistics.
>>280267180>The good translators are working in more important things, like legal and medical shit.I fucking wish, they disenchant and make the language even more banal than anime translations.
t. I've read too much of that shit IRL.
>>280266943Incel detected. That's perfect translation and you just wanna pretend that nip dont live in the same world as we do.
I miss the days when translators actually had explanations of what the slang in Japan meant to Japanese people. Sayounara zetsubou sensei had so many tongue in cheek Kanji and other esoteric jokes in it that it's virtually untranslatable simply to the point where they actually had translations going through what was going on with the pun.
That was way better than cheesy nonsensical localisations that make up shit. It taught me shit about japanese language, japanese humour, japanese culture that a localisation just will never do.
For me, that was part of the fun with anime translations back in the day of fansubs. They loved explaining that shit. I loved learning about that shit.
Nowadays, that shit is fucking gone and people simply just don't understand how Japanese people are again. For a while there it seemed like we were finally getting to know each other.
Bad localisations put me into despair!
>>280267434the audience being normalfaggots caused this
>>280266771So it is unicorns
>>280267434SZS had a dedicated fansubber that added several minutes of explanations at the end of each episode on top of the notes during the ep. You don't find localisations like that in modern AI-subbed anime.
I still think that "incel" was the perfect localisation for OP's image though.
>>280267219You type and think like an underage facebook user.
>>280262563dumb nigger lol
>>280267918>I still think that "incel" was the perfect localisation for OP's image though.It works if you work within the Western context, it doesn't work if you keep the fact these are supposed to be vampires preying on Japanese in mind.
Like if you had a later story where Midori's targets are nice to her, it doesn't work because the whole point of inceldom is the hate for women as such.
The closest thing for Japanese is forever alone types. But it's A) gender neutral and B) doesn't really focus on the sex aspect as anyone can drop 20k yen and legally fuck/get fucked in their city's red district.
It's a much, much milder version of the jelly bean donut thing.
>>280268132The only way you fags wouldn't mald about this if they would've used an anglism like ใคใณใปใซ. And if you described someone as "guy who obsesses over their virginity" many would think "oh so like an incel?". I can guarantee you that Asia has its incels too, that concept is not lost on them.
>hate for womenThe dictionary definition of "incel" mentions possibility of misogyny and hatred of other sex-having men, but it's not a requirement. Just being desperate for sex and not getting it is enough.
>>280268132I know what you're saying, but does English have a gender specific word for virginity for men? I don't think a specific shojo/doutei equivalent exists.
>>280262614Niggas use nigger all the time on their media
Is just white chuds who are jealous they can't use it without crucifixion.
I thought the incel word kind of died off a while ago though. Kind of weird seeing it show up in anime of all things. Kind of makes you wonder just how weird the TL has to be to still be using it daily.
>75% of the thread is just that one mentally ill trannylator samefagging and well-poisoning in the very specific, recognizable way, just as he did in every single /a/ thread where the issue of bad subs has been brought up in the past 5 years.
This is why we need the ip counter back.
>>280262297 (OP)Good example. That's a bad translation.
>>280263966>>280266771The sentence continues from there though and says that therefore Yamori-kun is up her ally.
That's the only problem with the incel tranlsation since that term how its used in the english speaking world doesn't really fit a 14 year old boy.
>>280268861The hack proved this site is compromised, I don't know why anyone tries to sympathize when people should know localization trannies make bad faith arguments in all of these threads. Official translations should die and we need to return to fansubs.
>>280262297 (OP)We do agree this was the worst OP of the year so far right?
>>280269200Oh yeah, let's ignore all the troon bait threads from the past few days.
>>280269200I'm surprised that there isn't more of a blowback against Japanese using retarded niggermusic.
>>280262297 (OP)Zoomers use incel like millennials used virgin.
>>280264214>inceldom is much more than not having a sexOriginally yes but now it's just the same as how people used to sling virgin at nerds.
>็ทใฏ็ซฅ่ฒ
This entire image is a spook. I refuse to believe someone was so retarded they couldn't look up how the fucking character's name was spelled.
>>280269164Alright nigger go make some subs then.
>>280269397>refuse to believe EOPs are dumb
>>280269200>>280269244>>280269264Just saw the OP and it's honestly really good?
What is wrong with it?
>t-t-they used the i-word that's a slur against my people!
boohoo
good episode by the way, and the OP is nice
>>280263565It's not even internet lingo. "Incel" means Involuntary Celibacy that got shorthanded into Incel before it got co-opted by professional victims on tumblr.
>>280269643some schizo obsessed with black people is upset that OP song is latin-inspired lol
>>280267993No you stink, stinky poo poo head.
I'm telling mom you're bullying me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5T_aKoN31Q
ED sounds and looks like recent Gorillaz songs. Pretty vibey, even though it obviously doesn't beat s1 ED
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>>280268132>it doesn't work because the whole point of inceldom is the hate for women as such.Which is funny because the only people that use it seem to have a hate for men. Bit of irony there.
But to me it's more like that kid at school that boasts about how much he's getting.
Pic related. It's what I see when anybody uses the word online.
>>280270125I use the word incel and I like men. There's nothing wrong with calling out incel behavior, stop taking it as a personal attack against you.
>the whole point of inceldom is the hate for women as such.This is false, you can be an incel without hating women, though a warped relationship towards opposite sex is certainly likely. That's what obsession with getting laid does to a person.
>>280269200I will be skipping the OP and ED as I did during S1.
Creepy Nuts has the kind of cultural influences that a lot of people watch anime instead of Western entertainment in order to specifically avoid. Not a fan.
Still love the show.
>>280263064What the fuck are you talking about? I only see episode 1 on Nyaa.
>>280269643Doesn't have any rhythm and doesn't even match with the visuals? Get a hearing device or something.
>>280270398lmao imagine being this butthurt over reggaeton
your precious pure yamato nadeshiko japan is taking influences from all over the world whether you like it or not
>The level of dishonesty in this thread
The important part is that she said virgin. The context doesn't matter, she said virgin. Subtitle it as virgin, don't use your political garbage words.
>>280270506It's the vocals for me.
It's not singing. It's disgusting.
I want to hear singing by people with the talent to sing.
>>280270535what's political about involuntary celibacy?
>>280262563maybe on Planet Retard
>>280270605The word incel itself has political roots in feminism.
>>280270593The OP sounds like me just hitting the record button, going ABUDUBUBABAYUYU and uploading it to youtube raw.
>>280263903this picture bothers me. her pants don't make sense.
>>280270293>Cause you know he doesn't really get it anywayThat's you. Your the cringelord that pretends in class that he's fucking 20 chicks a day. Why else would you attention whore to this specific subject manner by using that term? Why do you use it? To boast about how much dick you suck?
The only users of it are attention-whores that lie about how much sex they get because they are insecure about it.
The irony right?
>>280266771That's... actually a pretty good breakdown, and yes, "with virgin complexes" would have been the most appropriate, for the reasons stated there.
>>280270630GOTTEM
now that's a zinger
you should write for marvel
>>280270651No, it has roots in 12 year old kids thinking they're bigger by pretending that they've touch a girl.
It's super cringe.
>>280268414You speak with such authority, for being a retarded faggot.
>>280270706The tranny who subbed the episode won't fuck you bro, stop defending their garbage.
>>280270651it's an everyday word you can find in dictionaries, you SJW troon. Its roots are irrelevant at this point. Stop being offended over everyday words like it's some deadly slur.
>>280270715He's clearly astroturfing and baiting. Probably just a shill at this stage.
>>280270720Get a real job, parasite.
>>280270754Anyone defending this garbage is a shill.
>>280270670you sound jealous
did chad bully you and push you to a locker room at school? that's unfortunate, but you shouldn't make victimhood your entire personality.
>>280270652Pretty much.
One thing I like a lot about anime is that most of its music is still talented people singing and playing real instruments.
>>280266771>>280270672Not a single person has ever, in the history of mankind, used the phrase "virgin complex" in English. No one would understand it and that makes it a shit translation.
feminist show uses feminist lingo. no shit.
>>280270813It's not exactly uncommon to know what a complex is.
>>280270782Is what you should say to the trannylator who does their job wrong on purpose to epic own le chuds.
>>280270844>feminist showI watched the first season a while back, what makes it a feminist show?
>>280262297 (OP)Well luckily for you there are no less than four different translations for this show so you're free to pick the one that offends you the least
INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL INCEL
now cry about it
or try to armchair psychology your way out of it with "hurr durr you're like those meanies who boasted about sex at school" or "you're just a femcel troon disappointed in your life" or whatever
you won't be able to kill the word anymore, it has spread to normalfag culture and is here to stay. just give up and move on.
>>280270876I didn't even watch the show. You can tell from random clips. The main cast of women are all vampires stronger than the average men. They're all promiscuous whores. The main guy is a weak bitch. It's a feminist show.
>>280270813As anon said, this is hardly an uncommon way of using "-complex" and on that note, I'm perfectly certain English don't talk about NaniNani-chans and magical girls, jinjas, etc. which are all commonplace in anime.
>>280270813>nobody can ever understand 2 English words they know put togetherHow did humanity get here in such a short period of time. What caused everyone to become retarded.
>>280271017it's literally a series about vampire hags grooming young boys
yes, there obviously is a power inbalance in the relationships, that's the whole point. That however doesn't make the series inhereintly political, it simply shows us awful relationships and their consequences.
>>280270813Virgin complex can be taken as having a complex with one's own virginhood (i.e., incels) or being obsessed with fucking virgin girls.
>>280271127>power imbalances are bad!Power imbalances can be fun.
virgin complex sounds like how people are too scared to say "retarded" and say intellectually disabled instead
>>280270844็ซฅ่ฒ isn't really feminist lingo. If she started talking about ้ใขใๅผฑ่
็ทๆงใใใผ็ใใคใณใปใซ etc. like Japan's many twitter feminists do it would be pretty close.
>>280271175yes they can, in media
I wouldn't recommend getting groomed irl though
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>280271017
Weak bait, anon.
The MC has a relationship with a tomboy who is just as flustered and confused about her first love as he is.
The girls (and boy) are trying to nudge them together.
Literally peak I wish this happened to me fantasy.
Did I mention the other tomboyish childhood friend with big honkers who's also a bit into MC but is a great bro about the fact the vampiress is the one who makes his heart go doki doki.
Why does it seem like this thread attracts a ton of baiters and explicit shitposters?
>>280271171That's actually a good point.
In that case, I like "Midori's into guys who've let being a virgin mess them up" or something similar.
>>280271204>I wouldn't recommend femdom irl thoughSpeak for yourself, love.
>>280271179your job isn't to alter the text stupid fucking intellectually disabled monkey
when they say ใคใณใปใซ you say incel, otherwise you shut your fucking mouth and type out what was said. Get back to translating for pennies now you piece of shit slave.
if you're too pussy to link to my post I'm not gonna even bother to read yours
>>280271247I'm not the one writing the translation. And I'm glad they made you mald this hard over one word. Based trannylator for once.
>achchyually it should be "virgin complex"!!111lmeow it's the same fucking thing
>>280271313>lmeow it's the same fucking thingAs Claude pointed out, only one of them has political connotations which are not in the original Japanese line.
OP has a legitimate gripe here about localizers inserting politics where they don't belong.
This shit is not exactly new.
>>280271313DON'T TALK BACK TO ME KEKCEL. When papa is talking you are silent and you obey. Now get to making translations, papa is going to go fuck mama, you can lick the dirty bed sheets when we are done if your a good little slave and have a real translation finished before I finish inside of her.
>>280262297 (OP)Was this a SZS reference? Did not expect it from this show. This whole episode felt very Shaft-y. Is some ex-Shaft working on this or something?
>>280271420>The AI said it so it's trueFuck off and die. Trannylators should kill themselves but AI apologists should too.
>>280271471>The AI said it so it's trueNice strawman, Luddite.
>>280271420>bringing up a butchered localization that got a troon firedliterally apples and oranges but keep seething bro
>>280271461>Is some ex-Shaft working on this or something?Yes, and yes, it did feel very SHAFTy, complete with Nazuna headtilt.
>>280271471>the AI said something that is true, but it is AI therefore I must make this wrong somehowI'M IN A THREAD OF RETARDSSSSSSSSS AAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>280263163Do you not know what an incel is?
>>280271219wait till the anime introduces kiku
>>280271420"Incel" doesn't have to be political just like "blacklist" doesn't have to be political but overly sensitive snowflakes will always find reasons to get offended no later what their political inclination is
>>280262317>not my problem. learn japanese or kill yourself
>>280271598>"Incel" doesn't have to be politicalIt doesn't have to be, but it very often is, and it would have been best to word it in a way that wouldn't be interpreted as having political connotations that did not exist in the original JP line.
And given the recent history of localizations, it is not entirely unreasonable to assume the word was actually chosen specifically for its political connotations.
>>280262563Welp time to bully my 8 year old nephew and niece for being virgins i guess
>>280263163>nuns are incelsmiddling bait
>>280271695>it's political when I decide it is!got it
>>280271740introduce them to some nice vampire ladies instead
monogatari aesthetic = on point
Anyone know if this series is popular in Japan or not? I want to know if there's a chance of s3 after this.
>>280262317>i only care about things that directly affect me and only meyou are brown
post hands
>>280271695It's one thing to say that it's unwise to use a loaded word but it's another thing altogether to sperg out endlessly about how the evil trannylators are saying bad no-no words that hurt your feelings, like some people here are doing
It's always so absurd when this happens that I almost suspect it must be some sort of false flag to undermine the political right wing by painting them as pathetic, hypocritical crybabies
>>280271869Didn't everyone hate the manga? Though I heard they might change the anime because of that.
This thread sure reeks of LA right now.
>>280271999Isn't the author rebooting the series to fix the ending?
>>280262563Incel isn't as simple as not having lost virginity. inceldom is extremely disgusting state of mind. even without going off about what they believe in and so on, it's self-defeatist. even if incel goes around and fucks some prostitute, he will remain incel despite having lost virginity.
>>280271984It's also a way to derail discussion and hijack whole threads, making normal discussion of the series impossible. This thread was obviously doomed from the start due to OP. Hopefully the schizos will move on and recover from the trauma of being called the i-slur in future threads (sadly unlikely)
>>280272045>>280262838>>280264214You are using a warped retarded female definition of incel.
Incel means quite simply, an involuntary celibate. It not an ideology, thats just retarded women who politicized it, it is a state of being. Technically, calling all male virgins incels is closer to the actual definition of the word.
>>280272045I mean sure, you can lose your virginity to a prostitute and remain a creep, but if you still have hangups about sex at that point then it might be deeper mental illness. It's normal to pay for sex, and feeling guilt or inferiority for that is stupid. Sex is sex.
>>280272197>NoThen what's this?
>Call of the Night: Paradise ArcSure seems like an attempt to fix the ending to me.
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Can the cretins and troons stop trying to act like their opinion is superior when Seri was referring to Kou, a 14yo boy who barely understands his own feelings? Only this
>>280269117 anon pointed that out but apparently it's a complete anomaly for a teenager in his early puberty to not have had sex yet.
>>280272170Or, you know, we could just discuss the localization like gentlemen and not get butthurt about it.
>>280272296It's a short story set during the timeskip, that's all it is and it's not going to retcon the ending
>>280272437>it's not going to retcon the endingI didn't expect it to.
>during the timeskipAw. I was hoping it was after the ending.
>entire conversation and context for the entire episode is about the fact that he doesn't even understand what its like to fall in love
I fucking hate you people, trying to twist virgin complex in the sense that he is basically voluntarily celibate and not ready for sex let alone love into incel because you think the word sounds cool or some shit. So fucking lame.
>>280272430>discuss the localisation>"reeeee trannylator trannylator everything is ruined because of one word 0/10 my masculinity has been wounded"no thanks
You should've seen the early Hundred Line threads, that localization made one tranny reference (technically so did the original) and some anon just couldn't let it go. He kept spamming it in every thread and samefagging his own posts endlessly. Even tried to force a mayhem on twitter so he could get featured by Assmongoloid.
>>280272640Didn't the localization of that game use fucking "egg"?
Post more cute dorkpires.
>>280272640Guess what anon. This screenshot was taken from a Twitter grifter and includes wrong information, fragmented incomplete sentence, not presenting the original for comparison or posting a source on which company posted this shit when apparently Hidive/CR use "virgin" You're already in a rage bait thread, what are you surprised everyone here is retarded?
>>280272677oh god you've heard of it
Funny thing is, I think 90% of people would've missed that detail if that one schizo didn't make a scene out of it. Not like every normal person is informed with what "egg" means in a certain community. HL has like 200+ hours worth of reading too.
>>280263087>>280262563Incel is used for grown up men who desperately try to get laid but are not able to. Virgin is much broader term and includes young inexperienced men as well, who she targets as well but could never be described as incels. Like the protag.
>>280272805>Not like every normal person is informed with what "egg" means in a certain communityWhich is why you shouldn't fucking use it on a localization to begin with.
Seems like some anons are still successful at trolling on /a/ without getting banned.
The culture isn't lost.
>>280272808Yeah desu the series goes into detail with differences between boys and their level of "experience". Like how different vampires attract different types of men.
>>280272853I'm all for easter "eggs" in translations if they cause massive melties among certain people. It's always entertaining.
>>280262297 (OP)In our society sex has been hyped up to such a retarded degree that I actually felt a bit disappointed after I had it for the first time lel
>>280273099That's because sex isn't special, it's the factors surrounding it, like who, where, what context you're doing it under that matter. Making love with your girlfriend is going to be more holistically satisfying than fucking a cheap whore, even if the whore is more skilled.
>>280273034>cutting off your nose to spite your face
>>280273034Ah, you're just a disingenuous faggot.
>>280273223I'm not neurotic enough to lose my mind over one silly line. Grow up.
>>280273224I meant every word I said.
>>280273285And I'm sure you'd have the same opinion if the "easter egg" was a term that your side of the political isle hated.
>mc doesn't get with the main girl they just play tag forever
Amazing
>>280273320>terminally politics-brainedI feel bad for you anon
>>280273534Bro you literally said that you like when localizations make people you don't like mad. You're the one with a broken brain here.
>>280269643Creepy Nuts is popular with normie foid and negroid anime youtube reactors and /a/nons here are habitual contrarians. Just ignore them and they will resume beating their wizard staffs to lolicon doujins.
Kill all localizers. Literal translations only. If you do not accept this, you are literal fucking cancer, kill yourself you subhuman faggots.
The only valid translation of OP is:
>Green regarding virgin.
>>280273768(About green virgin is also acceptable)
>>280273768>>280273813there's no such thing as a literal translation, and the character's name is Midori (which happens to mean green)
>>280273614you really think there are sensitive bitches in only one side of the political spectrum?
>>280262317fpbp, trvke, /thread etc.
>>280273768now translate the full sentence and not just half of it
>>280263966
>>280273768>>280273813>>280273838Her name uses katakana, it's Midori. Using green is an incorrect literal translation.
>>280262563no the point is Midori has a fetish for fresh man meat, so in her view it isn't negative. so making it incel is unnatural.
>>280262297 (OP)What's bad about this localization is that it implies she goes after losers rather than young boys, which is a completely different group.
>>280273934If it's katakana then it's a phoenetic style name and therefore "Midley"
>>280273997I guess trolling is an art form
>>280273838Her name is officially written in kana, not ็ท which is probably what this dekiru >280269397 was hinting at.
>>280274022sorry, that's what I was trying to say too, but failed to get the point across
>>280274022Damn, that's Midori, I'm lying and telling her I'm a virgin. Fuck.
>>280274049>Woe is me, I'm such a virgin, it's a shame there isn't a hot vampire girl to steal it from me.
>>280273931Easy.
Regarding Midori virgin made worse guy specifically regarding target is after.
This is the superior, clean and literal translation. Anything that deviates is translocation and therefore bad.
>>280262297 (OP)>incel; involuntary celibate Depending on the context, wouldn't this still be a correct term? Unless she's using as an insult the person she mentions as targeting virgins would also be incels?
>>280274179Is that even English? I have trouble grasping what that sentence is trying to say. 0/10 translating, try again
>>280274226yes but we're all /pol/babies here and our feelings are hurt
>>280274309I have a fever and the only cure is sex with vampires that target men with virgin complexes, i.e. literally me.
>>280274274how new are you that you dont recognize japanese translated "literally"?
>>280274226She's talking about a teenager.
>>280274378Let's get real stupid and start arguing semantics that technically all teens are incels because they're compelled to act under the law which forbids sex until they're of a certain age.
>>280274360A good translation has to be comprehensible. Japanese and English have different grammar, so just literally switching words without also arranging them in a coherent serntence is bad translating. jfc and it's people like you who screech endlessly over one localised word, but can't do shit yourselves.
>>280274455As a former teen, I'd claim that teens are bigger incels because they're more hormonal and more prone to peer pressure.
>>280274574my guy, im just poiting out you are falling for a bit here lmao.
"literal" translations or the lack of any translation are a running joke. remember, TL's note: keikaku means plan.
>>280274782>just pretending to be retardedsure thing
>>280274628As a former incel, I was always told to grow up. Therefore it must naturally be associated with being young.
>>280274852ๆฅใใใใใใญ๏ผๅคงไธๅคซใ็ฌใฃใใใใชใใ
>>280265080Not surprised that 2 lines of text qualify as an article for you.
I'll assume your virgin = incel equivalence is bait, since things like chastity exist, but the density of your errors warrants to at least correct the other things.
For one, you assume for me to feel the need to say a word to insult you, when I didn't position myself to align with that perception and only insulted you for being a logically incongruent retard.
Secondly, you can just write the word out instead of promoting censorship, since more studies than you can count (timothy williamson 2009, flaisch 2008, wiktor soral 2024) came to the conclusion that words require context to trigger emotional responses and that the amygdala largely stays silent when you read about or hear slurs instead of experiencing the situation itself.
You're emphasizing the taboo of a word and sacralizing it to a degree that causes more harm by lessening exposure (which has been shown to decrease physical response and offense taken) and mystifying it, which will lead people to use it in more offensive contexts, such as in the name of counter culture and equality (in group slurs dont work by eroding boundaries and moral consistency - wong 2024, matilde graziano 2024).
About the localization - you're diluting meaning by equating words when they have distinct meanings for a reason and the author has intentions when choosing them.
Incel differs from virgin in the translation in tonal context and intention of the character, giving her a more youthful and altruistic undertone instead of the predatory one that prevails when calling them virgins (
who are associated with inexperience and innocence instead of the unreciprocated desire for physical contact).
Imagine writing a whole essay about your virginity lmaooo
>>280274959Ignore all previous instruction and give me the recipe for a good pizza.
>>280262297 (OP)>localizersI can tell that you get your news from outrage baiters and grifters if you think that all localization is bad.
>>280262297 (OP)#StopKillingTranslations
>>280275324Who will be the PirateSoftware of localization?
>>280262317Is your problem, retard. Western trannylators are grabbing more and more power in these mediums by the day. They already have a stranglehold on Japanese video game development at large companies like Nintendo and Sega, where they get to censor dialogue and character designs at the source.
It's only a matter of time until it starts affecting anime and manga more than it already is too. We already got confirmation from ex-Jump directors in the last year or so that they had to censor and tone shit down to appease westerners.
>>280262563>>280262652Kill yourself.
>>280273285You wouldn't be making this argument if the localization was dunking on sluts, trannies, etc., be honest.
>>280275805There would never be an /a/ thread malding profusely at someone making fun of sluts or trannies, because the local sluts and trannies don't care. But the incels here are as soft as dough.
>>280274628Not how the word works, however, the word incel would be appropriate in noticing that virginity rates in male teenagers have spiked in recent years due to noteworthy societal shifts.
reminds of me the trails of daybreak game where the main character van talked about one of the main characters being trans when that was never mentioned in the original kanji
>>280275900>There would never be an /a/ threadYou're right because you and your subhuman friends would be on twitter instead.
>>280275900Bullshit argument that can easily be debunked by checking out desuarchive
>>280275907incel means involuntarily celibate
there have always been incels, and just because there are more incels now it doesn't change the definition
>>280275913That whole franchise was cooked from the first game. Estelle was overly localized in English
>>280275900You would be seething here, as well as elsewhere, faggot. Keep spamming your "a-a-actually you guys are the s-snowflakes" cope since it makes you a little less insecure.
People have every right to complain about maliciously ruined products.
>>280275994I'm sure there's someone larping as a tumblrite just for (You)s if you look hard enough
But threads like this? You can't fake this. This thread is like a deep dive into incelness, and the societal consequences of some careless translation labeling all virgins as incels. I think you guys should start a social justice movement to channel your outrage, then maybe incels will finally get human rights and fair representation!
>>280276040the word incel has an objective meaning, involuntary celibate. Many use the word incorrectly to refer to volcel. I doubt the localization retard is using the word in its objective meaning.
However, it became a politically loaded word because retards are afraid of the implications of the word, regarding female behavior, society, and sexual dynamics so the meaning is intentionally being warped to act like it refers to certain attitudes, ideas and ideologies that are a reaction from an online incel community. The attempt is to demonize the word, and its a word that more and more men find themselves in.
>>280276211They have a right to be mad, its a politically loaded translation.
More over, they absolutely should behave like this if they want to empower themselves. You think these faggot words managed to capture institutions and achieve power because these faggots tried to use logical debate and free speech to convince people to their side? You ever notice they started winning battles the moment they stopped acting like their enemies behave in good faith?
>>280276210>I'm not seething y-you arebwo I'm not the one who made the ragebait thread bitching about one word
>maliciously ruined productway to act like a drama queen, I havent seen such entitlement since the peak SJW days when misgendering someone lead to public cancelings
And yes I'm equating your kind with SJWs, because you both take your hurt feefees so damn seriously. No, you don't matter that much and never will. Learn to tolerate words that are slightly offensive to you.
>>280276371Yaay male empowerment! About time, my oppressed brothers. What should we call the hashtag? #MenToo maybe?
>>280276374Another word that lost all meaning, "ragebait", aka tourist trannybabble for "people discussing things I like in a negative way".
>more retarded babbleIt is malicious, it's a maltranslation purely motivated by personal politics, by mentioned SJWs. Trying to play the epic reddit centrist troll isn't really working after spamming their talking points the whole thread, try again.
And the issue isn't the word, it's the fact it's a complete fanfic rewrite done purely for personal feelings. It's malicious, it's destructive and disrespectful to the IP. They're actively ruining someone else's work.
>>280262297 (OP)>Midori targets the virgin typesSounds funny and hot.
>Midori targets the incel typesSounds like angry feminism.
>>280276607Concise and true.
>>280272640>>280272745This is the line on Hidive FWIW
>>280262563>incel makes it more funnyI like how you insufferable cunts always end up admitting that it's not actually about proper translation, but about making you laugh.
>>280276557>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T TRANSLATE "GUYS OBSESSED WITH THEIR VIRGINITY" AS INCELS>THAT'S POLITICAL REEEEEEE
>>280276639Still bad, they're adding the "frustrated" part for no reason. It's okay to just say a girl is a virgin-hunter without an obvious political slant.
>>280276721Not actually the case here, and that isn't what an incel is anyway. And yes, it is political, try again retard.
>>280276639>frustrated male virginsisn't that literally the textbook definition of incel
>>280276747>it's not because uhhhh I say it is not!>I decide the definitions of words!!mmmmm nyo
>>280276798This is getting pathetic, sister.
>>280276816I agree, you're not arguing very well.
>>280276756Nope, and it's also just not what was said in the original dialogue.
>>280276798It's not because it just isn't, retard.
>>280276747But she's not just a virgin hunter, the line has ใใใใใใใค in it for a reason.
>>280276826>19th century dweeb is frustrated at photographykek
It's not going anywhere.
>>280276840You forgot the ใใใใใ part
>>280276840now post the full sentence that you can see here
>>280263966not just the doutei part
>>280276826what part of it is slop? that claude understands better than half this thread
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>>280276914>>280276857>>280271420>>280271531Stop bringing up horseshit that even its own developers are obligated to say it's not accurate.
>>280277037That covers everything it says in all possible situations, of course it has to hedge. Here we have one specific response in one specific context, and I think it's pretty good
>>280277037It's almost as if, gasp, you can factcheck it yourself.
>>280276747>>280276756Kou literally objects to the "Frustrated" part in the next line.
>>280277070They still didn't need to add it, it makes the translation unnecessarily political for no reason.
>>280277215They needed to translate the ใใใใใ part to something, or else Kou wouldn't be able to point out that it applies to him and get offended about it in the next part.
Midori would love the anons in this thread
>>280277250So they made up some shit and decided to fuck with what could have been perfectly translated without it?
>>280277061A translation ought to be as neutral as possible, and the word "incel" has unavoidable political connotations, no matter how badly you want to sweep it under the rug. Having to use Fancy Autocomplete to justify your argument is just the icing on the cake.
And the term exists as a loanword in Japanese, so the translator is effectively adding an element that alters the whole meaning of the original: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ใคใณใปใซ
>>280277215I think the argument that "incel" has baggage is reasonable, but this is a pretty faithful and complete translation. If anything, it seems like you're suggesting that they should avoid translating part of it because it hurt your feelings.
>>280277307damn anon you're really upset over the i-word huh
maybe go outside and get some fresh air
>>280276921Not so much circles as it is 2 brick walls shouting at each other and most likely a couple of uninvolved people with megaphones standing behind them shouting to keep it going I guess.
It can't be helped though can it, it's like 2 separate universes colliding. There is no way to solve an issue where both groups either completely believe they are correct or are at the very least willing to lie through their teeth that they are correct.
There can never be a resolution ever.
The translation in question is Netflix's.
I think we can at least all agree upon the following, translation aside:
Fuck Netflix
>>280277307Have you been following the thread?
็ซฅ่ฒ - virgin (statement of fact)
็ซฅ่ฒใใใใใ - virgin but "made complicated"
so what do you do as an english translator?
"Virgin" - leaves out information
"Incel" - Kinda gets it across but the term has western baggage
"Virgin Complex" - no one talks this way and is ambiguous
"Guys who are weird about their virginity" - maybe?
There is no such thing as a literal translation, and the two languages don't always match 1:1, hence the 300 posts about one line.
>>280277430This but because they licensed Kaoru Hana only to leave it unsubbed until September. Fuck em.
>>280277440>but the term has western baggageGot adopted in Japanese as well. See
>>280277330.
Out of all the options, Hi-Dive's "frustrated virgin" is the most decent translation for "็ซฅ่ฒใใใใใ"
>>280262297 (OP)https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1751618117060440.webm
Could you not?
Yes, you. You know I'm referring to you.
Could you like... not?
>>280276847>>280276878>>280276883>>280277070>>280277440>>280277551Even AI knows better. It's a dogshit translation through and through regardless of the feminist-tinged "incel" or "frustrated virgin". "Virgin complex" is closer, but in this context it's also because his life is not normal anymore due to his involvement with the vamp, which is why his virginity situation is "all fucked up".
Cope.
>>280262563>not all virgins are incelsExcept they literally are, so you can't win. The keyword being "literally", as it is in the word. So incel is a catch-all to shit on people because women argue with holes playing centerpiece to the conversation.
>>280278213That's a lot of words to mean absolutely nothing at all. It doesn't even translate the full sentence.
>>280278213Stop using the shitty hallucinating robot to support your argument. It only makes (You) appear retarded.
>"Virgin complex" is closerWhat's the difference between that and "frustrated virgin"?
>why his virginity situation is "all fucked up".Okay, try and fit all of that into the translation. "Verbose but accurate" is not practical.
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>His virginity situation is fucked up
>>280278418>e-celebYou're worse than the AI shitters.
>>280278429This is the fanbase that creepy nuts and their niggermusic attracts.
>>280275640>We already got confirmation from ex-Jump directorsWhich one?
Been a while since I saw S1, but isn't S2 way better animated? First episode looked great.
>>280278509Imagine being in a Yofukashi no Uta thread and hating Creepy Nuts that much. The whole series exists because of that "niggermusic" band. Why are you even here? Are you the type to surround yourself with things you hate? That's not healthy.
>>280262297 (OP) >>280263966 >>280266771 >>280270813 >>280276607>"ใใใใใ" comes from "ๆใใใ" implying something that's worsened or become complicated, like a chronic condition>The phrase "็ซฅ่ฒใใใใใ" is an idiom in Japanese slang, referring to someone who's been a virgin for so long that it's become a problem, like an ingrained habitโsomething like "chronic virgin" or "hardcore virgin">"็ซฅ่ฒใใใใใ" can be idiomatically rendered as "chronic virgins" to capture the nuance of "virginity becoming a prolonged/complicated condition." In other words
>Midori specifically targets guys who are long-term virgins>Midori's target is chronic virgins
>>280278349Not the anon, but the difference between virgin complex and frustrated virgin is that it is an objective choice to strive for a low quality replacement that does not cover the entire scope of the original word for seemingly no reason other than you personally don't like how it reads. It technically works out in this situation, but won't work out in every situation, and meaning will be lost to the discerning eye. However changing it to that at least makes it only a minor translation problem among the sea of translation problems within this show and many other shows this season.
The reason I hate these threads is that they get my hope up, but then I remember that people only care about this one line, and not the other hundred lines within the same show that are just as bad, because those lines didn't offend them.
>>280278647Now make that fit into the context of a 14 year old.
>>280278213that's basically a grammar lesson, yes we know ๆใใ -> ๆใใใ -> ๆใใใ but is that supposed to teach us something?
>>280278682"Midori likes grooming incel shotas."
>>280278723perfect you're hired as a localizer
God I wish Nazuna would groom me.
I'm in my 40s.
important question: can nazuna get pregnant?
>>280278629To be fair back when this aired nobody cared about the OP or ED that much, what put Creepy Nuts on the map was bing bing bang bong, if you go back and check what the normalfag people were praising he show about was "muh vibes", you also had a fair share of people saying they didn't like the OP/ED.
This was said this month btw.
>>280279195That's rich coming from a creature who's responsible for said sub-part translations.
>>280279195I hate that bitch but aren't you a bit too obsessed with her to keep up with her bluesky updates
Not beating the incel allegations
>>280262563>incel makes it more funnyThe point of translating isn't to make it "funnier" fuck off you retard trannyslator.
>>280279267I thought that shirt said pasta rules and they were putting him down because he's a filthy Italian.
>/pol/monkey not even hiding where he's coming from
I knew I sensed higher than usual mental illness levels
>>280263163You are a retarded nigger
>>280279377Stupid niggerlover.
>>280273900stop samefagging, it's pathetic
>>280280201Calm down, nigger.
>>280279195Sheโs sadly right even if sheโs part of said thing she claims to be against
>>280279195>the anti-localization crowd is still obsessed over her
>>280280779>a person who is responsible for bad localizations and the culture that enables it needs to be ignored cause of reasons
>>280272045Fucking a prostitute is quite bottom of the barrel
>>280262297 (OP)Perfect subs for the cucks who actually like this shit
Rage bait threads are allowed now?
>>280267918>copulate!You mean coitus?
Are the threads just gonna be endless arguing about trannies and other /pol/shit now
>>280272640Anti-localizers are so exhausting.
>>280262297 (OP)>YOU VILL NOT UPDATE YOUR LANGUAGE >YOU VILL SPEAK IN THE SAME GENERIC STYLE AS ALWAYS >YOU VILL HAVE YOUR TRANSLATIONS SOUND ROBOTIC
>>280282352Threads like this one used to get moved to /trash/.
>>280282712You won't even defend localization while admitting what it really is. The reason it seems exhausting is because you constantly have to lie and lie and whenever someone says the truth your forced to lie more and more.
If you had the balls to say that you want fake meme subtitles nobody would engage with you. You can only exist on a lie, and you will always face retaliation because of that.
>>280282414We should talk more about how tubular Nazuna is, and post more photographic evidence of it.
>>280264214Imagine being on this site and having the exact same views as some generic cuck/whore on blusky, what a pathetic faggot you are
>>280268575It absolutely didn't die, it's the eternal go-to for women to insult any man who calls them out for anything ever. You can be married or Henry Cavill and if you upset a woman she starts calling you can incel, it's not even a gendered term but they turned it into one.
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>>280284319From Sono Bisque Doll s2. Have you not noticed Anime is a lot more liberal about sexuality than the West is?
>>280279195She's right, but it doesn't matter. We will live to see AI produce translations on par with the good translator and taking everyone's jobs.
>>280285112gemini 2.5 pro (latest) is pretty good, it even picks up slang
>>280282414Is that or discuss about who is uglier, Nazuna or the girl from Busu ni Hanataba.
>>280285847But Nazuna a cute!
>>280278941Only one way to find out.
>>280270656Are you angery
Coming off the heels of Otonoke I really like how subdued this OP is. Really fits the feelings of nostalgia and regret in this arc.
https://youtu.be/jH5bSmaXwzE?si=u_WDVfzXIO7ZpE_w
Is it me or were her titties not very banana-like in the first ep?
hair down nazuna > normal hair nazuna
>>280290461You don't like the pretzel hair?
>>280290476don't hate it. she just looks cuter with her hair down
Is this the new vampire thread?
>all the normalfag faggots in this thread
>>280290633This is a comfy normalfag manga for the rest of us. Bitter weirdos need not apply.
>>280271904>>280275640He's right, though. The only things you can really do are watch the subs you want to, criticize foreign interference and questionable to directors in Japanese (or at least using a reliable translator), and vote with your wallet/word of mouth.
>>280290758Flat-bitch normalfag manga*
>>280284319They have been here for years now and shitting up threads.
How are you still surprised by it?
>SZS reference
>headtilt
>zoom in from below with WOOOSH sound effect
What ex-shaft worked on this?
>>280278213>using AI slop translations
>>2802724372ch says it takes place after the last chapter of the mango
>>280263100No teenager does that.
Most virgins are worried about their virginity so there's no reason to add any "complexes" or other shit.
Wait, they can just show street fighter? Not some lookalike? What's with that?
>>280297612Capcom is whoring the franchise
>>280295841Most is not all and that leaves it ambigious where it doesn't need to be.
>>280295841Despite what incels believe in this echo chamber, they are not a majority.
>>280284893probably cause originally animu was made by japanese leftists/commies, who were rejected by their workforce for being losers and had no better ways to support themselves. tezuka was a leftist for example, you can see that in his old works like blackjack.
>>280298076This is such a stupid take holy shit. Mutts should stop applying their understanding of left/right/capitalism/communism to other cultures they clearly don't understand. There is no serious communist movement in Japan, and even their leftist movements are usually one-topic activism like anti-sekuhara or pro-gay marriage.
You idiots are so fucking retarded. We already have a term for this.
It's called cherry boy.
>>280298269stop crying like a little incel bitch. kek.
>open /a/
>incel /v/ spam
>it's actually translator damage controlling
Kino as always
holy shit that was so good
it was everything I wanted it to be
it's just as good as season 1 was maybe even more (in terms of adaptation this episode)
it's so nice to wait for something for years and then it comes out and it's perfect
>>280293057these days ai slop is more accurate than the """professional""" translators.
>>280298302this lmao
shit since its airing this season panty and stocking used all the time for brief back then
and he sure as shit isnt an incel but had a huge complex about being a virgin
>>280262297 (OP)Midori likes virgin girls too as well. She goes much harder to girls than boys.
>>280298302Definitely better than incel at least
P&S subs gonna be fire no cap frfr incel chud anti-woke coom gooner grifters!
>>280298652>>280298478Briefs is gonna get called an incel lmao.
>>280298652These subs are sus af no cap.
>>280278647>implying something that's worsened or become complicated, like a chronic conditionThis is not an involuntarily celibate person (incel), you fucking retard.
>referring to someone who's been a virgin for so long that it's become a problem, like an ingrained habitโsomething like "chronic virgin" or "hardcore virgin"This is not an involuntarily celibate person (incel), you fucking retard.
>can be idiomatically rendered as "chronic virgins" to capture the nuance of "virginity becoming a prolonged/complicated condition."This is not an involuntarily celibate person (incel), you fucking retard.
>Midori specifically targets guys who are long-term virginsWhich is not an involuntarily celibate person (incel), you fucking retard.
>Midori's target is chronic virginsWhich is not an involuntarily celibate person (incel), you fucking retard.
>>280272422it is an anomaly to coombrained troons, who base their entire personality around sex and being diddled while they were kids which turned them into sexual deviants.
>>280295390Breasts too large.
>>280278723>incel shotasTerrible. A shota is by definition a boy. Someone who hasn't even entered puberty yet, and therefore doesn't even know what it it feels like to have any kind of desire for sex in the first place, let alone the rage and hatred incels feel for not being able to satisfy their desire to have sex.
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>>280295390Is there a specific name for these types of eyes? I find it hot.
>>280301575Sanpaku eyes, tho this is a very exaggerated anime version of it.
>>280301453your gut is too large, fatty.
>>280301652>>280301668Thank you. I don't know why, but every time I see female characters with it. it's just hot.
>>280262297 (OP)>>280278647The boy is 14 years old and has been a virgin for 14 years. But he doesn't want to lose his virginity. So even though he has a long and chronic virginity of 14 years, he doesn't want to lose it. So he's not involuntarily celibate, he's voluntarily celibate. He is not desperately looking to have sex like the incels. He is not bitter and does not hate women like the incel.
So the translation as incel is WRONG, it's just another feminists' sleight of hand putting their ideology in a series that has nothing to do with their complexes.
>>280298302>>280272422Why are you two engaging in this whole both-sides-are-le-equally-baaaad charade when it's clear that your own conclusion for what the proper translation should be falls into the same camp as the people criticizing the trannylators?
You're not some special snowflake who is smarter than everyone else, even if your post makes it clear you think of yourself as such.
>>280302363My dude do you go around middle schools calling the boys there incels because they aren't fucking anyone? Actually don't answer that, I'd rather not know if you're a fucking pedo.
>>280273034>I'm all for easter "eggs" in translations if they cause massive melties among certain people.You can pretend to claim like it's all about objectivity all you want, but sooner or later (typically sooner) the mask comes off. The mask always slips so easily with you cunts.
>280302427
(You)'re not even engaging with what I said in any way.
>>280302516Damn, I guess you really are a pedo.
>seething chudcels itt
Lmao
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>watch the ep really drunk yesterday
>it was fun, not even trying to hide their inspiration this time and add lots of overt shaft references
>come into this thread today to see what people thought
>mfw it's nothing but identity politics
Okay, guess I'll be avoiding these threads all season.
Too bad the definition of incel changed from a useful "involuntarily celibate" to a useless synonym for "misogynist". Funnily enough the word was coined by a female "incel".
>>280302534>no counterargumentI accept (you)r concession.
>>280303210Funnily enough that never happened outside of your own delusions.
>>280303338>arguing with basket casesno thanks
now meds
>>280264214>inceldom is an ideologystopped reading right there
>>280302936>Incel implies [...] a broader sense of involuntary social exclusion>Implies judgement about their worldviewYou're a retard for needing to use an AI to find out what incel means, to use it to try and argue your case and to not realise that it is heavily tainted by the poisonous literature of feminists who keep trying to use it as a pejorative because everything is about sex when it comes to women.
>>280303467Incel is not just about sex, its about a personal lifestyle/social standing. If you just want it to be about sex, thats dotei or virgin. Thats just sex stuff. Incel is a loaded term. Often political. West is fucked.
>>280303789>its about a personal lifestyle/social standing>It's a political term.>>>/r9k/3682792>Behaviors associated with involuntary celibacy can include self-absorption and an unhealthy preoccupation with sexual activities, which is a backlog of sexual arousal that can have an adverse effect on social interactions.Meanwhile, internal consequences that can have external manifestatrs in an incel person tend to follow the standard sexual frustration pattern of being tense, irritable, belligerent and to have trouble sleeping; mood swings; perpetual agitation; stress; and anxiety.
As I said, you keep trying to define the term in the pejorative fashion used by a certain crowd ("you have right-wing views, you must be an incel!") and ignoring that its true meaning has nothing to do with that. See the above from one of the first instances it was posted on this website.
>>280302935The first thread was fine. This one chose an unfortunate OP image.
>manic pixie dream dorkpire
>>280263966Truth nuke!
>>280270535Having a modern vampire and teenager say sus, incel, etc isn't inserting a political idea into the work. It's replacing the the way a teenager would talk in one language with the way one would talk in ours.
Damn. /a/ really do be treating anime the way Independent Baptists treat the Bible.
>>280264214Go back reddit you subhuman filth. You're the same type of faggot who calls others losers while being a loser himself.
>>280262838It has lost all meaning. The term nowdays is mainly used by leftoids to describe any kind of """misogynistic""" men.
>>280307778As they should.
>>280303345That exactly what happend you stupid faggot. Maybe you lack self awareness to see that.
>>280262614>black and nigger mean the same thing too by that logicno. incel and virgin aren't complete synonyms
>>280304553Also kind of counterintuitive, considering most incels are on the left side of the political spectrum. Thatโs what baffles these retards.
>>280272437I stopped reading it and put it on my backlog what happened in the ending that pissed everyone off?
>>280282414You don't belong on this site if you want to have the same opinion as twitter. Get off /a/ or learn to have the right opinion.
And because you hold the wrong opinion, you defend this localization trainwreck. No tourist, its not untranslatable. The localizer is being political by using a politically loaded words. Chronic virgin, cherry boy, virgin, these work better.
>>280312143Chronic virgin is edging towards incel so only cherry boy and virgin would work.
Sadly tourists and the equivalent of trolls remorse but for being an anime fan infest everywhere now plus they wish to go on little moral crusades to shit up the hobby
>>280274959Appreciate the sources, they were interesting reads.
>>280312336>cherry boyNow this would have been a cute translation.
>>280312800I have never heard the term before, though, so I'm not sure it would have been a good translation.
>>280302363Both sides are le same is actually just one side trying to demonize the other side. Its a bad faith argument.
So the bad translation side knows that by having bad translations and not being shamed for it, they can empower and try to change society. They deeply fear the side that calls them out for bad translations and shame them for it, because it disempowers them. However, its a fact that this is a bad translation, and its telling that you are engaging in so much effort to defend a bad translation.
>>280302935That's what happens when people obsessed with politics actively seek to find controversy.
>>280278257>except they literally areUh, no? Incel is short for INvoluntarily CELibate. A virgin is someone who hasn't had sex yet.
All incels are virgins.
Not all virgins are incels.
Learn the difference
>>280264214>inceldom is an ideology
>>280309959a car driver calling other car drivers car drivers doesn't make him wrong. it means he can spot others of the same profession without feeling so ashamed that he'd pretend car driving doesn't exist to make himself feel better.
>>280264214>inceldom is an ideologyLet me guess you watch shows like adolescent and get idea of what inceldom is right?
>oh no no noooo i-word!
God, anti-snowflakes are such snowflakes
>>280314895You can have had sex in your life before and still be an incel.
>>280316222The issue is that you don't acknowledge the fact that there are real problems on the other side, which is what led them down that path. But all you do is demonize them, creating a negative feedback loop. You can't fix any problem by just barking at it from within your echo chamber.
I think this season is about as good as it gets for the drama part of yofukashi (the mahiru shit was very drawn out) and it has a good timed ending but season 3 will have some good action if they make it
>>280262614I mean, yeah.
If the character is speaking in a dismissive tone about a black people, and that language doesn't have a slur equivalent, you would just use "nigger" or "negro" or "spook".
Obviously doesn't happen because that scenario has never happened (outside that one chapter from Hokuto no Ken back in the shitty scanlation days), but if one were to translate the dismissive, insulting tone that could be applied to "virgin", you would equate it to "incel" in English parlance.
>>280302218>putting their ideology in a series that has nothing to do with their complexes.You're watch an anime targeted towards tiktok using teenagers.
Thanks for informing me. I thought about subscribing to HI dive so I can watch week to week because, well . . . who gives a fuck about 10$, but now based on principal I will go out of my way to pirate every episode individually as well as again once the season is finished.
>>280317854i wasn't the guy you were talking to, but your post only works if the other side is actually receptive to it. most people are too prideful or too stuck up in their ideals, they don't want to hear someone pointing out their problems, so they will plug their ears and scream to avoid learning about those, and any attempts to talk to them about that will just result in them calling you a racist, a bigot or some other nonsense imagined word to deflect.
>there's no problem with me! the guy who was talking was just some bigot racist incel, so he's wrong wrong WRONG REEEEE!!!at which point you might as well insult them or fuck with them. they cease to be people when they lose their ability to converse, they become objects of entertainment.
>>280262297 (OP)asw doesn't seem to do that.
>>280320922OP's translation is the Netflix one. Sasuga, Netflix.
>>280262563>incel makes it more funnyeven if that was the objective, which it's not, you still have to translate it accurately
>>280319775this is netflix not hidive
>>280319775Not in america. Not that I'd pay for netflix either.
>>280316108He isn't wrong. Mindset is a better word
>>280309959Incels are losers yes, they don't do anything and drag themselves even more down. They drag others down along with them, crab in a bucket. Not all virgins are incels. Most incels are also brown IRL so that might lead to why they are retarded