Thread 280275331

>ONE admits that Yusuke Murata is the writer of his version of One Punch Man
>Story by ONE
STORY BY MURATA

Too much for the Anime Expo

>>280275331 (OP)
I mean, that always was plain obvious. The only one to blame for the stoty massive downgrade is Murata, who can draw quite well but not write.

>>280275331 (OP)
Literally all he had to do was copy the web comic’s story and brush it up with better art. A simple gig and yet his ego killed the entire series

>>280275564
That’s been a complain before the redraws started

>>280275612
Fact, the manga/anime went to shit the moment Murata started changing everything, and that was literally after anime S1. Before that Murata followed ONE's script perfectly.

>No director announced
>No actual scenes from the anime
>No trailer or pv
>2 pre animated pv’s
>3 months till it releases
>Murata is Confirmed writter of the series
What went so right?

>>280275331 (OP)
>ONE admits that Yusuke Murata is the writer of his version of One Punch Man
Proof?

>>280275736
Literally hours ago at the Anime Expo

>>280275736
I made it up lol

>>280275736
I was just kidding around.

It's the Editor who refered Murata as the writter, but we don't have the audio, only one report saying this

>>280275612
This
I'm still mad as fuck we didn't get a proper adaption of Saitama vs Garou

>>280275757
Literally hours ago at your mom’s house, now post proof retard

>>280275846
There is no proof. I just told you.

>>280275736
>>280275846
Not ONE, but still another evidence to support what everybody already knows

>>280275331 (OP)
Story by ONE

>>280275736
>Proof?
My schizophrenic delusions
>>280276199
Is this "everyone" in the room with us right now?

Sorry, wrong thread, meant to post this >>280276243 here >>280276067

>>280276451
>Story by One
> 原作: ONE and 漫画: Murata.
>原作 - Original Work
>漫画 - Manga

>>280276770
Now post the tweet of Murata thanking ONE for the storyboards lmao.

I need Fubuki ass

>Yes, I know that from the start the manga was written by ONE and we have storyboards of original parts like the tournament arc or the bonus chapters drawn by him to prove it, but I SWEAR that at some point he stopped and Murata took over!
>What? No, of course I have no proof, just take my word for it!
ONEtroons schizophrenia never ceases to amaze

>>280276858
That was ages ago before Murata took over and manga turned to an utter shit fanfiction. We all know everything up to that point was written by ONE because it was actually good

>>280276982
Sure, bud. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

>>280276907
kek, like clockwork
>>280276982
>We all know everything up to that point was written by ONE because it was actually good
meanwhile in reality, stuff like the tournament arc was relentlessy shat on at the time

>>280276858
You mean the one there ONE sent Murata a 12 pages manuscript of CE vs Pheonix Man and he turned it into three redraws with +100 pages and an entirely different ending to the literal manuscript he posted lmfao?

While the expo itself has been extremely shit because it's handled by westerners, the news so far have been really good
>Extra confirmation of the obvious that Murata has been writing the original stuff in his adaptation
>JoJo Part 7 is being done by Part 5's staff
>Vermilion Mask Anime revealed and it's being done but the team that did the first season of Blue Lock
>New teaser and art of Science Saru's Ghost in the Shell
>More info about the adaptation of the Kamen Rider Manga done by the Air Master guy
>Reincarnated as a Sword season 2 done by the same staff will release this year
>Bleach comfirmed for fall
I haven't watched Cyberpunk but the news of the second season seem to be a best case scenario, seemingly the japs are more involved, they aren't reviving the cast, newbie staff but still members that have worked on Trigger for years meaning that the original staff can work on other stuff while they use this as an experiment and the journalistic setting seems cool. Really the only disappointing news so far is that the Hokuto no Ken anime looks like shit.

>>280276907
Then why did they stop occasionally sharing storyboards exactly after the alleged point Murata took over and completely turned the story to shit?

>>280277095
We stopped seeing the SB when Murata stopped streaming

>>280277035
>meanwhile in reality, stuff like the tournament arc was relentlessy shat on at the time
Not even close to the current state of being universally shat on, except for the dedicated reddit echochamber

>>280277180
No, he tweeted manuscripts from time to time even after that

>>280277036
Do you have a source for Murata ignoring the manuscript and not working on the redraws with ONE? Or is this another delusional theory of yours?

>>280277180
It's ONE who posted his storyboards on twitter though

>>280277230
>>280276770
Read, nigger, READ. This was posted at the exactly after Hackrata's retcons started

>>280277216
So you admit the tournament arc that ONE wrote and was manga original was bad then?

>>280277301
It doesn't count.

>>280277230
Yes, it was specifically stated that Murata was the one in charge of redrawing the fight because "he was no happy how CE turnes out" and we literally see in the manuscript the ending is entirely different from all three different version Murata made and the entire manuscript is several times smaller than any of the redraws. Murata literally made it ten times longer

>>280277301
>posted exactly after*

>>280276770
>>280277301
Full context:
https://twitter.com/ONE_rakugaki/status/1270418750269845505
https://twitter.com/NEBU_KURO/status/1270731157471019008
https://twitter.com/NEBU_KURO/status/1270731896842907648
>ONE sensei is too humble, in fact we've been in discussion prior to redrawing the chapters on how we should develop the story. What I'm saying is ONE sensei is truly amazing. Needless to say.
https://twitter.com/ONE_rakugaki/status/1270871160046014464
>When we are discussing with each other, I will also be suggesting dialogues for various occasions, for example Saitama wearing a bald monkey costume while invading the spiritual world, there exist idea like this which is better off not to use.

>>280277301
>one poorly translated tweet VS the cover of the fucking manga and multiple other tweets of ONE's storyboards for the manga
Gee, I wonder which one should be believed?

>>280277252
Most of the SB we've seen come from Murata's streams

>>280277224
ONE hardly posts anything. He must be very busy

>>280277230
"In the storyboards I received, it was going to end in 12 pages, but when I finished it
https://x.com/NEBU_KURO/status/1070176425125134337

>>280277327
So you have no source that he didn't collaborate with ONE on it after being dissatisfied with the original way the fight played out? Good to know.

>>280276904
If Murata could do this one thing I would be happy forever

>>280276907
They are actually delusional. It's sad.

>>280277404
Your entire scenerio is literally just ONE giving in to Murata's demand to change it lmao. The outcome is the same regardless. Murata changing the writing.

>>280277449
So ONE refused to do his job properly and tanked the quality of the manga. Glad we agree. :)

>>280277362
>Most of the SB we've seen come from Murata's streams
And what's your point? ONE also posted storyboards, but both of them have stopped sharing them, because they are no longer being made, you mongrel

>>280277364
>>280277484

Reminder

23/6/2018
>T/N: ONE is very busy with other projects these days, the storyboards he sends often consist of simple stick figures and sometimes only descriptions of characters or scenes in text, leaving a lot of the creative work to Murata.
https://onepunchman.fandom.com/wiki/Interviews/Stream_Q/A_4

Wasn't that even before the redraws?

>>280277479
Oh yeah, ONE stopped giving a shit and is too much of a Japanese pussy to put his foot down and tard wrangle Murata like he should have. He let Murata ruin the manga so he has blame as well.

>>280277484
Murata stopped doing streams. ONE stopped posting in general, he has 3 manga and a webcomic to write at the same time.

>>280276770
ONE even made some suggestions, but they weren't used.

>>280276199
>manga writer

Hype status?

>>280277362
>one poorly translated tweet
Translate better, if you believe there's a mistranslation
>the cover of the fucking manga
Which doesn't tell the ONE is the writer of the manga just the original story >>280276770
>tweets of ONE's storyboards for the manga
Which again mysteriously stopped after the story turned to a dbz-tier fanfiction and completely detached itself from the original

>>280277573
But didn't write this, neither initiated it. It's Murata's story where ONE is a "consultant", that gets ignored

>>280277665
JC Staffed

>>280277538
Yes. Murata took over after the notorious retcons in 2020 which led to this tweet >>280276770

>>280277665
An all-time low. I remember back in 2022 when there were rumors that MAPPA was animating OPM S3. Oh I miss those times.

>>280275331 (OP)
The least shocking revelation of all time. Next you'll tell me that the Moon Landing was real.

>>280277920
Why does the alt-right always believe in conspiracies?

>>280277888
>to this tweet
And here is the full context of that tweet >>280277339

>>280277568
>ONE stopped posting in general
What's kind of cope is that? His twitter is as active as ever, he regularly posts OPM webcomic and MP100 art, Versus character concepts drawn by him, etc. Why would he stop posting OPM manga storyboards among all those things, if he actually made them?

>ONE: It seems like my instructions or suggestions are being misunderstood, but all the revisions are entirely based on Mr. Murata's ideas and storyboards. This is about how amazing Mr. Murata is.
>Murata: Wow! Such generous words! Thank you so much!!
>Murata: Teacher ONE is being humble, but in reality, we discuss and create together, including future developments, when making revisions. It's about how amazing Teacher ONE is. Needless to say.
Story by ONE

>>280278053
>discussion prior to redrawing the chapters on how WE should develop the story
Yeah, another confirmation that Murata is a writer while ONE for whatever reason "discusses" the story development he has already written in the webcomic

>>280275736
>Murata writes retarded shonenshit
>OPM manga turns into retarded shonenshit
>wHeRe’S tHe PrOoF?

>>280278130
>but in reality, we discuss and create together, including future developments

>>280278128
>but all the revisions are entirely based on Mr. Murata's ideas and storyboards
Story by Murata
>we discuss and create together
Murata: Hey, ONE-sensei, can I completely shit up your work with my shonenbrain fanfic that completely misses everything that made the original work good?
ONE: Yeah, whatever. I have 3 projects going on currently

>>280275331 (OP)
fuck you op for making this thread and making OPM fans look even more retarded and schizophrenic than usual. and fuck everyone posting in this thread for taking the bait in either direction.

>One released a webcomic chapter not long the shitty second pre animated trailer for season 2 dropped
>One released a webcomic chapter not long after Murata started his third attempt on the ninja arc
>Opm panel with literally nothing to show for the third season. Not even a director announcement. Apparently they’ll still voice recording despite it supposed to air in 3 months
Yeah I’m thinking we’re getting another webcomic chapter soon bros.

>>280278366
>literally makes up a fake conversation in his head to escape reality

>>280278308
>including future developments
Hackrata doesn't know shit about the future developments of ONE's story. If you were reading the webcomic you would know

>>280276770
Yes. "Story by" refers to the author of the source material because he has to be legally credited even if he has no direct involvement. OPM is an adaptation, Murata is the author of the adaptation, Murata makes writing decisions in the process of adapting ONE's work. When ONE provides original scenes for the manga (volume extras, the martial arts tournament), he is doing it as a writer, not as the author of the manga, because Murata is the author of the manga and it is within his power to reject or alter ONE's storyboards.

>>280278489
>literally takes for granted the vague words of a man who doesn't want to take the full responsibility of the trainreck he's creating

>>280278652
>When ONE provided* original scenes for the manga (volume extras, the martial arts tournament)
ftfy

>>280278659
I take the words provided by someone who actually works on the manga not your deranged headcanon. Take you meds.

>>280275331 (OP)
>murata says his version is semi-serious
>turns a battle of ideals into a complete joke in the manga

>>280278744
The only headcanon here is Hackrata's fanfiction

>>280278697
Do the latest volume releases not even have extras anymore? Or did Murata start writing them too?

>>280278793
I accept your concession.

>>280278826
No, I accept your concession

You can tell ONE got lazy with helping Murata after seeing how good his art was. Why make the writing good when you can half ass it and still collect your paycheck?

It is crazy to me that we even have these discussions in the first place, let alone keep repeating them for literal years.

I dislike the writing in the manga, it is slop to me, but I can understand the masses liking the hype, the shonen tropes and whatnot. What I fail to understand is the downright desperate defense of the manga on the basis of ONE himself being behind all the changes, as if these people were trying to convince you that the manga is good BECAUSE ONE is still the writer, rather than the manga being good simply because it's good.
If you enjoy it you just enjoy it. but with these people it feels almost as if they're scared that they'd have to renounce the manga if it was ever confirmed that the changes come from Murata, which sounds like nonsense, because if you truly feel the story is better then it shouldn't matter if it came from ONE or Murata, you'd still prefer it and declare Murata as the superior writer.

>>280278744
>>280278826
>I take the words provided by someone who's position I'm curently defending
>I won
The absolute state of plebbitfugees

>>280278748
>>280278793
Stop reminding me how fucking diabolical the manga is.

>>280279050
It's the completely unhinged misinformation campaign that has been pushed for years about the manga just because some people don't like it that we have a problem with.
You can hate it or love it, but don't push bullshit you know isn't true and constantly shit up threads about something you personally don't enjoy.

>>280279050
It started out as contrarian bait, though I genuinely think many of the posters back then who were vehemently defending the manga were actual underage autists, that felt insecure because they actually liked the shonen tropes we were shitting on Murata for.

>>280279164
Why are you even here in the first place, retard? Reddit is more up your way. They a banning people for the slightest discontent with the current state of the manga, so you can "discuss" it there all you like. Also the OPM manga threads are completely dead now, if they are not just shitflinging like this one, even waifuspamming can't save them

Anyone who can comprehend it was a mess knew that years ago. Why anyone would think ONE was still contributing to that mess is silly when he's still on point with all his other shit.

>>280279419
Yeah Gokiburi Buster was such a hit.

You know, we've been over the narrative missteps Murata is responsible for in the manga, but I'm still disappointed with the fight choreography for the Garou vs Saitama fight. Even when I had given up on the story, at least I had expected the fight to look cool. But it was just DBZ tier puch harder slop. Even ONE's version felt more dynamic.

>>280279050
People love to argue and if there's a topic to argue about they will keep going until the end of time.

>>280277315
>So you admit the tournament arc that ONE wrote and was manga original was bad then?
No, I liked it, but some people thought it was unnecessary. Back then manga original content was just adding meat to the bone and didn't change the main events of the webcomic, it was decent to good quality and unmistakably ONE's writing. The only redraws were cosmetic ones and the manga had a consistent release schedule. You are either disingenuous or a newfag if you think the currently state of the manga is even close to what we had back then

>>280279397
>They a banning people for the slightest discontent with the current state of the manga
You know your manga is a success when you start kicking people away for having different opinions

>>280279909
That's just on the OPM subreddit. I'm sure whatever autist mod that oversees that place come here to argue. But the manga subreddit has pretty much given up on the manga as well.

>>280279419
>Why anyone would think ONE was still contributing to that mess is silly when he's still on point with all his other shit.

Saitama farting himself through space is exactly the kind of shit ONE would write. Face it, the idea that Murata was writing clouded your judgement. If you knew for certain ONE was writing you would love it.

>>280280138
ONE would write Saitama farting, but he wouldn't have written anything else that happened in that arc. He sure as shit wouldn't have written Garou killing everybody or God or time-travel as a cheap narrative device.

>>280279050
>it feels almost as if they're scared
Some people get weird when a series shits itself. They're never the most invested part of the audience, because that group is far more sensitive to dips in quality and often turn into the most vocal critics. Best explanation I can come up with is that the apologists are people extremely concerned with following trends and having "good taste", and they're upset because they failed to read the room and now find themselves as the underdogs having to elaborate on what exactly it is that they even like about the OPM manga.

>>280279862
Pretty much. Back when it came out, I saw the content of the tourney and little invasion as simply more setup for the MA arc, while taking the chance to give screen time to some characters that wouldn't appear in it, like Metal Bat, Watchdog Man and Drive Knight.

I will say though, that I did notice some cracks forming even all those years back. Specifically concerning Garou. Even back then, completely ignorant of what a shitfest the manga would eventually become and still very much optimistic and hyped, I was already wondering why they were softening Garou so much. A few more interactions with Tareo? Sure why not, nut the fight against the A-class group went so far to suck him off as a tragic anti-hero that I had to do a double take.

To me, the exact moment the manga becomes irredeemably shit is when Psykos fuses with Orochi (and then the Phoenix Man and Orochi fights get retroactively ruined through redraws), but I have to wonder if MUrata was already shitting up things with Garou's character much earlier, or if this change ACTUALLY was ONE's doing.

>>280280138
>Saitama farting himself through space is exactly the kind of shit ONE would write.
But this one in particular is Murata's old idea, lmao. And ONE as an actually competent mangaka wouldn't write it, not because it's le fart joke, but because it's a tonal disaster in the context Murata used it
>If you knew for certain ONE was writing you would love it.
Stop projecting, you deranged fanboy. I would simply question ONE's talent. But that would be physically impossible for him to be this bad, knowing his other works. It's like asking 'if Togashi wrote Black Clover, wouldn't you love it then, huh? Got you there" It's a totally meaningless "what if?" only someone with an iq of a Murata fan would come up with. If someone wrote something another person did it would be different

one dipped out of the project and the editors pushed the writing onto murata and since he's a corporate cog he didn't say no and picked up the workload like a fag
onefags who want to push all the blame onto murata are retards
muratafags who want to push all the blame on one are retards
the manga should have been cancelled when one got out of the project

>>280280733
Honestly, yeah. It's pretty unprofessional for ONE to just dip and leave Murata hanging like that, if that's indeed what happened. I guess ONE never expected OPM to take off like it did.

>>280280441
Same I enjoyed the small showcase of dogman, but I don't think it was worth all the other nonsense.