Thread 280291237

Correct me if I'm wrong but there is no anime like this.

>>280291237 (OP)
I remember...

>>280291237 (OP)
deathnote

>>280291278
I remember
Jooooee

>>280291237 (OP)
Bebop, LoGH.

>>280291237 (OP)
There are anime where the main character does die in the end, yes.
Death Note, Edgerunners, Code Geass (Yes yes I know I know), Char's Counterattack.
If you mean anti-climatically in what feels like the middle of the story then yeah I guess that doesn't really happen.

>>280291237 (OP)
the first story in Hi no Tori switches progagonists a few times because they die

>>280291237 (OP)
There is a shitload of cartoons like this, but only a normie newfag could have so low power level to not know any

>>280291237 (OP)

You called?

>>280291237 (OP)
>there is no anime like this
Newfaggots
Newfaggots as far as the eyes can see
Newfaggots who watched 5 anime and think they know everything

>He dies and the anime ends
This is always predictable because you can see the episode/chapter count it's kino when it just keeps going like Orb.

>>280291237 (OP)
Butt sniffer

>>280291278
Joeeeee!!!!! Washino no joeeeee

>>280291603
The same newfags that claim having seen 2k+ "animes" already.

>xitter filename
>abhorrent picture and post
Every single time.

>bonus: namefag

>>280291237 (OP)
Wasn't Tokyo Ghoul supposed to be like that before the author decided to make Re?

>main character dies
>anime continues
>his or her death affected nothing and no one cares
Is there actually a series like this?

>>280291901
That isekai where the assassin girl kills isekai-jin before they become problem.

>>280291901
Guyver

>>280291237 (OP)
Which twitter page did you lift this funny meme from?

>>280291237 (OP)
Plenty

Chrono Crusade
Flanders
Happy Sugar Life
DB:GT
School Days

>>280291237 (OP)
Darker than black? I forgot if he died but i think he did

>>280291901
Under Ninja

>>280291901
isekai?

this thread made me realise that when a mangaka got the balls to kill the mc, the more likely got the skill to write a good manga.

akame ga kill

well it only lasted 1 more episode after MC dies, does it count?

>>280291237 (OP)
It sure is summer. Why are shitposters and summer tourists this stupid?
Main character dying and focus shifting to another character is not unheard of concept in anime. It is not something that happens often, but there are quite a few examples. Most famously, Gurren Lagann.

>>280292781
>Most famously, Gurren Lagann.
Kamina was neither the main character nor the main POV at any point

>>280292781
gurren is side chara death for forced drama. which is marvel crap tier bullshit, but gurren is plastic crap, so it works for dumbo like you. we're talking about the mc-mc here.

>>280292781
you couldn't even name one shut the fuck up you loser

>>280292872
>you couldn't even name one
ITT a lot were already named you loser

rosette my beloved.
it still hurts.

>>280291278
>>280291288
Eat shit you fucking pretenders. That song wasn't in the tv anime. That's how i will always recognize "yeah i totally watched this old anime bro" pretentious faggots.

>>280291785
Kengan omega...? Wtf are you talking about anon. There was no sequel to that master piece Kengan ashura. What 300 chapters of fillers?? AI arts?? Wake up dude, ohma is dead, man.

How about
>MC revealed to be main villain
>Switch PoV to other character

>>280293113
someone's got a case of the midnight blues. go to sleep cranky.

Okay, but why noone talking about Jojo?
Literally the case where MC and story still continue

>>280293554
That's the real song and Soul!

>>280291237 (OP)
Devilman

>>280293037
This pic physically hurts

>>280293666
checked holy shit

>>280292736
Well in the manga he doesn't die

>>280293511
AoT? I guess but Eren is hardly the "villain" there

>>280291237 (OP)
>stealth rec thread

>>280291901
Fuuka

Shin angyo onshi

>>280291439
I did not expect the caveboy to die like a chump, and for the foreign conqueror asshole to win.

>>280293511
god damn desert punk really shit the bed beyond the first arc. it was excellent in the beginning but the end petered out so hard noone even bothered translating the final chapters

>>280291785
>xhe hasn't reached chapter 50 of Kengan Omega
xister I...

>>280291237 (OP)
legendary man kurosawa (,manger)(

So basically the main story of this patch was time loop copied from Amphoreus?

>>280295302
>Omega

>>280291237 (OP)
Obviously, if the MC dies suddenly and the anime ends in a cliffhanger, that would be a bad story. But if what you are looking for is the MC dies in the end, then there are some.

>>280291281
that's main villain

>>280295270
Desert Punk is completely translated though. The ending kinda shits on the MC, his greatest achievement is to be remembered as literally Hitler who got defeated by the good guys.

>>280295940
oh has it? last time i was up to date was a couple years ago and the final chapters hadn't been translated despite being out for years. but yea the protagonist's pivot from "hero" to villain was interesting the execution was awful though

>>280292598
Manga still goes

>>280291901
not anime but dangan ronpa has a game like this

>>280295940
Was the big tiddied girl his dragon?

>>280291237 (OP)
Shigurui counts, I guess, granted that it was one of the main characters.

>>280291419
>Char's Counterattack
"*Strugle to remain on your chair* Char, what the fuck do you mean Lala could have been a mothAAAACK"

>>280291237 (OP)
>develop a highly promising manga
>kill off the MC at what would otherwise be a midway cliffhanger
>end manga then and there
>create a second manga that takes place in a timeline where the MC survived
>complete the second manga as what the first manga would've been
Has this ever been done?

>>280291237 (OP)
>anime get ended
BROWN

>>280291237 (OP)
Kengan Asura. Really touching death and a great end

>>280295811
Jojo
>B-But Part 1-2 is unrelated
During the time, there are no distinct between part 1 and part 2
It was as far as people thought to be 1 concurrent storyline

>>280295886
Still a main character.

>>280295886
Unironically improved the world for everyone except the retards trying to stop him

>>280291237 (OP)
light yagami happened

>>280291901
>>main character dies
>>anime continues
Akame ga Kill fits this description, although only for an episode. The MC dies in the second last episode and there is still some fighting in the last episode.

>>280295886
>villain
Their names start with the letters L, M and N. Raito did nothing wrong.

>>280297468
Gunnm and Gunnm Last Order

Op pic is what actually happened to me when I was reading one of the stories by Camus, not mentioning the title because potential spoilers in case somebody is reading Camus at the moment. It was a big ass book and I didn't realize it included several titles, so I didn't expect the ending coming at all.

>>280299912
Ah, yes, Camus, one of my favorite classic mangakas

>>280302132
Fuck you, it counts.

>>280299867
Well that was because the dude thought he was going to die. Had to close it up fast.

>>280295886
>Decrease crime globally by 30%
>Villain
Hmm

>>280291237 (OP)
Eden's Zero.

Shiki dies about 50 or so chapters in, and the story just continues. He isn't brought back, he isn't resurrected, he's just dead for keeps.

>>280291281
He is a villain protagonist.

>>280302480
>>280302520
I actually dropped this pretty quick after this happened, because my favourite female character was then sold into sex slavery.

It was such a big twist I was thinking it would get undone, so I kept following before realising, no, it's not getting undone. Shiki is dead, the androids are dead, and Homura is now a sex slave. Only Rebecca escaped.

>>280298447
>>280299162
>>280302378
A guy willing to kill his own family for his own benefit doesn't know what justice is, nor does he practice it.

>>280291901
/a/ isn't ready to accept it is so, but Gurren Lagann.

>>280291901
Anything with a bait protagonist in episode/arc 1. If they do it with the actual protag then people qrite it off as edgy

>>280302899
Kamina was never the main character.

>>280302616
What happened to the loli?

>>280293037
Yeah this my first anime and fuck me up good.

>>280303123
Dead, she's one of the androids. The entire original cast are dead, except Homura who's a sex slave.

>>280302480
How did the story progress after that?

>>280303369
The female lead escaped and the entire cast was replaced, and we were supposed to just transfer all our affection towards the entire original crew onto the new crew.

It was never undone, walked back or reset.

>>280291901
>>anime continues
>>his or her death affected nothing and no one cares

That doesn't happen because it's impossible. If thier so irrelevant to the story, they couldn't have been the main character.

At best you'd get stories where they bait you into thinking someone is going to be the protoganist before killing them and switching to the real main character, like Talentless Nana or something.

>>280291237 (OP)
FMA 2003, kinda.
Ed died and then Al sacrificed himself to bring him back and then Ed sacrificed himself to bring Al but due to plot reasons, he went through the gate and ended in world without alchemy (implied by the movie to be our world circa right before WW 2).

Also TTGL, albeit Kamina passed his title of MC to Simon and in retrospection it was all planned.

>>280292694
2025 and there are still people associating killing a character with writing quality. No wonder shit like JJK and CSM are popular.

>>280303709
In FMA 2003 Ed was clearly shown alive, which is why the movie finale could be made
Kamina was never the MC, he was the older mentor whose passing forces the MC to grow, like Smith Toren in Gunbuster and, arguably, Musashi Tomoe in Getter Robo

>>280303350
I just checked the manga and the main character still seems to be there, would you mind explaining

>>280304174
It's not him, he's dead.

In short: The female lead unlocks her power and jumps to an alternate timeline. So, the new cast is a very similar group to the old-cast in a world where everything is just slightly different, and things go along from there. The entire original cast that we knew for however many chapters is dead/raped. That's why I said the audience is expected to "all our affection towards the entire original crew onto the new crew.". They look the same, they act mostly the same, but they're explicitly not the same people. You can check the Wiki, Shiki Granbell from World 1 is listed as deceased.

>>280302983
He doesn't even give off "protagonist" vibes to begin with. >>280302899 needs to read Gunslinger Girl.

>>280304412
>They look the same, they act mostly the same, but they're explicitly not the same people.
damn that like bravely default where you wipe out 5 whole dimensions/universes before jumping to the next multiverse

>>280291237 (OP)
>is no anime like this.
Berserk

>>280304412
>jumps to an alternate timeline.
lmao fuck off

>>280292088
the mc dies? I remember reading up pretty far before the translation group became a bunch of tools

>>280302480
>Eden's Zero.
>>280302616
based not-Fairy Tail

>>280291237 (OP)
Shin Hakkenden (1999)

>>280291901
>no one cares
This is hard because only slop really has this poor of writing.
But series like Pluto have the main character die part way through and then he's replaced.

>>280291901
Yes
>jojo manga just straight up goes from part 1 to 2 a week later. The anime unfortunately breaks them up by part

>>280291901
Gantz (manga) does it, but he gets revived later.

>>280291237 (OP)
>texhnolyze
is this rec thread?

>>280305537
what? part ends in 1889 and part 2 starts in 1939

>>280302899
>Gurren Lagann
>his or her death affected nothing and no one cares
Even if you pretend that Kamina is the protagonist, the ENTIRE rest of TTGL is about the hole Kamina's death left behind. It's literally the Final Fantasy 7 of anime.

>>280302132
I can see "Metamorphosis" getting a great manga adaptation. Sort of like Punpun, but the main character is a bug, not a bird.

>>280303899
Because if you kill a character and you do it well, it's good. The problem is that killing characters is difficult.

>>280302616
im surprised isekai thread didn't shill this series.
needs more homura ho doujins.

>>280304412
would it be better if it started in Uni-0? according to fandom pages, all the other universes basically failed and humanity gets wiped out.

kinda like Slime Tensei's plot where the female hero time-jumped several times after the world gets destroyed in a big battle royale, because the Slime didn't awaken his demonlord powers and died early. but people hated that time travelling revelation arc.

>>280306058
>>280292694
>>280303899
superhero shit in /co/ killed heros and bad dudes like it's nothing. and then bring them back to life out of their ass. they're usually shit writers and one of the reasons /co/ is dead.

>>280304649
The difference being that you don't really explicitly know in BD, and have to unravel that something isn't right. You can actually subvert this on the first loop, but you don't get the real ending.

Bump

>>280304412
So its like Jojo Part 6?

>>280310012
Kind'a, except didn't that reset the world for everyone?

In this, only Rebecca goes to a reset world. Everyone else has to live on in a setting where the entire main cast were killed (except Homura who's now a sex slave).

>>280291901
Kenzen Robo Daimidaler

>>280302778
Do (you) know what justice is? His version of justice reduced crime by 30% so there must be some truth to it.

>>280310585
Do you understand Death Note?

>>280310585
Try not to throw a fit, but can you answer some simple questions:
>Why is crime bad?
>Why is reducing crime desirable?
>Why do people do crime?

>>280311147
>>Why is crime bad?
destroys social order
>>Why is reducing crime desirable?
see above
>>Why do people do crime?
to cheat the system and for personal gain at the expense of others and social order

>why is stealing from supermarkets bad when they have insurance?
because either the stores close and move out of the area or everything is locked up and it now becomes a greater hassle for law abiding citizens to buy things

>>280311407
>destroys social order
Why do you feel that crime destroys the social order? Isn't it the other way around?

>why is stealing from supermarkets bad when they have insurance?
I don't care.

>>280311507
>Isn't it the other way around?
social order destroys crime? no.
>I don't care.
you will when it affects your life

>>280303899
Fucking readlets. Anon said killing the MC not random characters you fucking spastic.

>>280311407
not to be an acktually guy, but remember that crime can also be considered as any illegal activities even if those are morally justified like what he did or rejecting tyrannical laws by a goverment that hates the local population

>>280295270
I liked it all the way. (Dub by the way).

>>280311871
true but Kira wasn't killing jaywalkers

>>280298874
Stone ocean as well

>>280311770
>social order destroys crime?
A failing social order causes crime. Crime is an abberation in the social order, it's not the other way around.

>>280311947
He literally was killing jaywalkers, that's the point of Death Note.
>What if every conviction led to the same punishment? Is a system that convicts the accused at an extremely high rate good?

Remember that "being a criminal" does not necessarily imply having done any crime whatsoever.

>>280311983
>A failing social order causes crime.
nigger mentality. social order is created by law, its not innate. criminals choose to break the law, they are not victims of their own actions or of society.

>>280312126
>criminals choose to break the law
Why do they do this?

>>280312048
>He literally was killing jaywalkers, that's the point of Death Note.
No because when Higuchi got the note the investigation team noticed how petty criminals were starting to die. Light only killed malicious violent criminals, he even avoided cases of accidental manslaughter even when the perpetrator gets a criminal sentence.

>>280312178
personal gain

>>280312312
Light gave the book to Higuchi and implicitly endorsed his actions. He also spoke at length about purging the undesirables.

>>280312354
>the undesirables.
then dont jaywalk. its a gateway crime that leads to rape and murder

>>280312348
Is it in the interest of "personal gain" to rob, when you can't afford food or housing?

>>280312547
>when you can't afford food or housing?
fuck off commie nigger both are provided by the government for free.

>>280312619
okay, let's go a step further then:
When society implicitly promises you a certain standard of living and it is impossible for you to reach that standard. Perhaps through faults of your own, perhaps not. Is that "personal gain"?

>>280312655
yes. criminals still choose to break the law for personal gain, even when they think they deserve a better lot in life. you do not get to burn down the village just because you cannot get a job or a wife or a house. that temper tantrum is still done at best for immediate personal gain or at worse out of spite.

>>280312655
Nta but have you actually been around criminals before? Because I grew up in a section 8 apartment complex and I can say with confidence that most criminals aren't helpless victims of society. They have a parasite mindset, plain and simple. They only know how to intimidate and take, and never build anything.

>>280312879
>you do not get to burn down the village
please, do not compare disgusting suburbs with beautiful villages

>no one said Cowboy Bebop
Are you kidding me with this shit

>>280312972
>shit nobody saw
breh

>>280312937
its an African proverb often quoted by libshit commies to justify criminal behaviour

>>280312915
>They only know how to intimidate and take, and never build anything.
Why?

>>280312879
>you do not get to burn down the village
I don't think many people burn down villages in 2000s Japan, but what do I know.

>>280313027
Is it wrong?
Why does the proverb exist, you think?

>>280312972
5th post

>>280305989
>It's literally the Final Fantasy 7 of anime.
that's the prequel spinoff game for FF7. that explained how Cloud got amnesia.

>>280313092
Yeah, I ctrl+f cowboy instead of bebop, lmao. But still, though

>>280291310
Spike was never confirmed dead or alive by the author. He's a non committal faggot that wants you to draw your own conclusions.

>>280313087
yes it is wrong and it partially explains why African is such a shit hole. you do not get to take or destroy other peoples things or life just because you feel entitled

>>280313054
>Why?
Because opportunistic psychopaths are an unfortunate reality.

>>280313186
Why is it wrong and what does it even mean, anon?

>>280313270
Do you think they're like this because they were born as niggers or do you think that the society they lived in might be the cause? You said grew up in section 8, how'd that go for you? You living the good life now?

>>280291237 (OP)
>>280291901
Battle spirits brave.
>war between humans and demons using cardgame warfare
>earth is dying
>mc and rival unites human and demons to save earth and also since demons were originally humans
>mc sacrifices his life to save the dying earth.
>his waifu basically became a widow at age 16
>sequel anniversary miniseries where mc comes back
>he doesn't actually come back.
>he just became the world's janny redman style and a villain just happens to be messing with the space time continuem during the eras that his friends and waifu are still alive.
>mini series just gave him a chance to give his friends and waifu a proper farewell since he pretty much died without being able to do so in the original series.
>another sequel series comes out and tensions between and tension between the different races on earth are at an all time high rendering his deed to unite everyone before dying pretty much null
Dan had a hard life.

>>280313275
>>280313308
you deserve everything that happens to you

>>280313434
Do you?
Do I deserve to be rich and happy, because my parents were rich and happy and do you deserve to be a poor little cretin ruining society, just because your parents were poor?

>>280313087
>Why does the proverb exist, you think?
it must be a modern proverb caused by colonization
africans were known for running away (africa is vast, you know) instead of fighting for shit. this is the reason they never developed (they didn't need to)
the reason why the obvious exceptions are the excetion are more than obvious.

tantrums/entitlement are a symptom of society

>>280313508
this seems odd, because africans had villages and children for thousands of years prior to colonial rule

>>280313308
I think man has a fallen nature and an inclination towards evil. Combine that with a low trust, vulnerable area and criminals flourish. These people need God and no amount of societal rearranging will change that.

As for how I'm doing, I'm alright. My life isn't amazing but it's better than my childhood at least. I was always repulsed by all the thug shit going on around me growing up, but I have my own sins so it's not like I think I'm so much better than those people. But I will say that I'm pretty much proof that growing up in a poor and chaotic environment doesn't doom someone to criminality.

>>280313622
>africans had villages and children
have you not seen videos of them? elders still beat the bullcrap out of the little shits. you couldn't start shit without everyone kicking your ass. colonial rule just gave them the idea of borders and guns and oil. it's been war after war after war.

>>280313695
>But I will say that I'm pretty much proof that growing up in a poor and chaotic environment doesn't doom someone to criminality.
no you dont understand, its criminals that are victims of their own crime, poors aka blakcs cant help themselves, and its wrong of us to hold them to any standard.

>>280313816
>poors aka blakcs cant help themselves, and its wrong of us to hold them to any standard.
>any standards
Africans literally hate their black asses. kek

>>280313695
>I was always repulsed by all the thug shit going on around me growing up, but I have my own sins so it's not like I think I'm so much better than those people
So you agree that growing up as poor rat increases your propensity for crime.

>I think man has a fallen nature and an inclination towards evil
You are wrong, Man is fundamentally good. As Jesus Christ himself declares.

>>280313998
>So you agree that growing up as poor rat increases your propensity for crime.
and crime is done for personal gain. no one was saying poors do not commit more crime.

>>280314077
>personal gain
But again is it "personal gain" to be desperate to escape poverty? You said you've been poor, so would say that you're okay with that? That you wouldn't use any means necessary to get a better life? Your means might just have been a little better than others.

>>280313695

>These people need God and no amount of societal rearranging will change that.

"God" won't fix the issue of a lack of morality. I've met plenty of "religious" psychopaths who only use their religion to give themselves a false sense of moral authority/perceived superiority and justify whatever they already wanted to do.

Any instructions that conflict with what they already wanted to do (such as don't lie, don't steal, don't be an all around jackass) is conveniently ignored all while spouting the praises of the one on high.

>>280314140
>any means necessary
just get a job nigger. stealing groceries or sneakers isnt going to fix your poverty. neither is rape or murder

>>280313998
>Man is fundamentally good
Correct, but sin distorts. Evil is always a privation of the good. When man fell, our nature was corrupted by disordered passions and ignorance. Hence a fallen nature.

>>280291237 (OP)
>>280291901
Sengoku Youko doesn't quite kill the main character, but it does have him devolve into a mindless monster 1/3 of the way in and get sealed away until the finale.

Anime adaptation isn't great though (the story is mostly there but weird direction leaves a lot of the themes garbled)

>>280314681
Man's fall has been forgiven and spiritually remedied, learn your theology, before using it to inform your worldview.

>>280302480
>>280302616
>>280303459
How much longer did the manga go on for after that? Did the female MC ever return to her original timeline to get justice?

>>280291237 (OP)
Cowboy Bebop

>>280315233
Christ saves but men are still born fallen. Otherwise baptism would be pointless. Sin still abounds in this world, in case you haven't noticed. Humanity still has to wrestle with the evil desires in its heart even after Christ's sacrifice. If you deny that you are a fallen creature, then it is you who needs to learn some theology.

>>280291237 (OP)
Shakugan no Shana protagonist unknowingly died before the start of the story and became a "Torch" (basically a zombie that fades from peoples' memories as it runs out of juice), he didn't notice because someone stashed a priceless artifact in his chest that recharges the bearer's mana to full every 24 hours.

Shenanigans ensue with the villains kidnapping him and trying to use him as the core of an infinite mana generator, and after he's rescued his base mana level has become superhuman. This eventually causes him to go mad with power, join the villains as their new leader, and battle his love interest in an attempt to create a world where she'll never have to fight again. This results in his permadeath.

But the anime screwed this up by removing his entire character arc in favour of romcom + love triangles.

>>280302778
It would be evil NOT to sacrifice your family if it means the world peace at risk

>>280315288
>How much longer did the manga go on for after that?
I'd guess it was about 1/3rd into.

>Did the female MC ever return to her original timeline to get justice?
Nope, that timeline was never mentioned again.

I think there was some plotline about all the failure timelines being destroyed or merged into one or something, not sure. Like I said, I dropped it after that, so I only know vague details. I only tuned into later discussions a few times to see "Did anyone ever fix this timeline?" with the answer seeming to be no.

I was the guy who posted this >>280310585 and I wasn't the one replying to you this whole time but holy shit do you ask a lot of questions.

>>280313502
>>280313998
>>280314140
Why? Why? Why? Why?
I CAN'T EVEN FUCKING QUOTE ALL YOUR REPLIES IN THIS THREAD OR I'LL BE MARKED AS POSTING SPAM BUT YOU HAVE SO MANY POSTS ASKING QUESTIONS

Instead of trying to look for weaknesses in one's argument by dissecting it a million times with redundant questions hoping they'll slip up and contradict themselves, look for it's strengths and see there may be a point. I had said in my post that Kira's methods had at least some, SOME, truth to it. Overall, it can be said that redeeming criminals is better than killing them, but killing them is probably better than not doing anything at all.

What is YOUR stance on Kira and his actions? What is the closest thing to TRUE justice? Do you have an opinion or do you just want to argue for the sake of arguing?

>>280291237 (OP)
akame ga kill

>>280291237 (OP)
To do so requires the supporting cast to be fleshed out enough, which requires
>Talented writer capable of shifting the "main character" status to a different character
>The show to have naturally had a large cast and with their own plot lines, that had spread attention and perspective around with there not truly being a "main character" to begin with. This would also require a large scale narrative.

So basically, without a talented author (or without a truly terrible one), such a thing is not possible.

>>280314140
once you realize it's not about wealth, but how certain people to react to it, you'll understand certain people a lot better
>I'm poor, what are my options...
>Get a job and work your way out of poverty through frugal spending and healthy habits
>robbing a convenience store and killing the clerk
Hmmmm

>>280312547
>Is it in the interest of "personal gain" to rob, when you can't afford food or housing?

"Is it in the interest of "personal gain" to commit crime to personally gain?"

>>280291237 (OP)
.

>>280291237 (OP)
Cyberpunk

>>280312547
Yes it is in the the interest of personal gain. Especially when you're robbing inedible gold chains and inedible shoes.

>>280291237 (OP)
Persona 3

>>280316196
You are posting an example of the opposite. OP is talking about having the balls to end the story abruptly before the main character achieving their goals because he simply died.
The game of throes author doesn't have the balls to simply end the series because one of the main characters died. In fact, when one of them died, he simply revived him. He is on the same level of Kishimoto.

>>280291237 (OP)
>the anime keeps going

>>280291303
Spike didn't die, he was just sleeping

>>280318040
>Character dies at the end of the story.
Literally tens of thousands of stories if not more do this. Narratively it's safe because the primary plot line of a character is being concluded and he no longer needed, so you might as well kill him if it thematically fits.
>end the story abruptly before the main character achieving their goals
OP did not explicitly state this, and what your describing is just a standard downer ending. That fits in line with the first narrative structure if it thematically fits, such as cowboy bebop as that was when the show was ending.

What you and OP mention is only a subversion or surprising if it happens abruptly mid season and the show goes on.

>>280291237 (OP)
Kengan Ashura no I will not acknowledge Cohma Sandro

>>280318040
How would you make a satisfying story if the protagonist dies without accomplishing his goal and it ends right there? Has this ever happened in any medium?

>>280291237 (OP)
This is actually just a straight up reddit thread. Holy shit.

>>280315434
World peace was not at risk, he was.

>>280310585
>reduced crime by 30%
If he wrote in the Death Note that the US and Russian presidents both launched their nukes and destroyed the world, he would have reduced crime by 100%.

So rec threads with reddit memes are allowed now?

>>280312915
no you don't understand, criminals are just heckin wholesome friendos who are misunderstood, they don't have personal agency or any sort of responsibility for their choices!

>>280291237 (OP)
Jojo

>>280291237 (OP)
Oscar Francois de Jarjayes

>>280312048
>>280312312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH664f6o7tA

>>280319256
See stuff like this makes me annoyed that Light was so fucking boring he just had them all die of heart attacks
I would have orchestrated the wildest shit imaginable, and made sure it happened on live TV

>>280291237 (OP)
Madoka magica, ashita no joe, evangelion (shinji dies at the end becoming god which is hinted with eva floating in space), there are quite a lot of them.

>>280291237 (OP)
Ashita no joe
Shamo

>>280291901
Dragon ball.

>>280320407
Rules are clear, this is why nugens are retarded.
>i could have made him do this.
>i would have forced them to nuke each other country.
Rules are explicit like you can't force the person to kill others using the death note if you attempt to end someone else life by manipulating a person actions to kill others the person will die of a heart attack.
I bet you watched shitflix shit note.

>>280293037
Oh, is this anime known here? I found it in a video store last year and watch the entire seires.
Kept meaning to make a thread about it eventually.
I wasn't ready for soul crushing ending, I wanted a fun adventure series...

>>280291237 (OP)
Code Geass before retcon/sequels.

>>280291419
Oshi no Ko?

>>280291901
There are some where it's the first episode.

>>280292088
>>280304803
He's talking about the first Enzyme fight where it rips the control metal out of his head, causing the armor to consume him alive. Then the control metal regenerates a whole new him with his memories.

>>280293616
Jonathan’s is interesting because he could have died for nothing had he not had sex w Erina and put a kid in her.

>>280316684
>bottom left
>having your girlfriend lick your face
Is there supposed to be something wrong with this?

>>280294449
Are mutts all the same?
>kill millions for revenge about the past.
>mutt : he isn't a villain he did nothing wrong
I know you love jews or got forced to justify their actions but you didn't got the message of shingeki no kyojin "jews are evil and if you don't put them in camps and under strict control they will destroy the world without qualms" simple as that.
Or you didn't notice the parallel of paradie people and jews, i thought was clear.

>>280318040
GRRM hasn't released a single novel since Jon Snow died, I'm not sure what you're on about.

>>280319256
There's a rule where the target's death isn't allowed to kill additional people.

>>280291419
Death note spiritually died with L's death.

>>280313141
He died, anon. Yeah, there's still technically hope, but it's the same kind of hope as believing your dog really is just living on a farm.
A questionable prospect at best.

>>280305850
You're a fucking retard, lol.
He obviously meant the release date? You know? Because he's talking about a fucking manga?

there was this anime about trained killers
the final boss was a really strong woman and the series followed the "protagonist" the whole series
at the final confrontation the final girl-boss basically kills him and we go directly to season 2 with the mc dead

i forgot the series thou

>>280291901
Scott Pilgrim anime
Most fans hate that too for bonus points

>>280313087
You're asking racial degenerates on pol who unironically simp for aristocrats and billionaires why an explanation of something that requires thinking for longer time frames than a chimpanzee might be the case

>>280291237 (OP)
The best example I could think of.

>>280291237 (OP)
Oshi no ko
Still remember the rage when the last chapter dropped

>>280291237 (OP)
>Moronic kid who's only experience with anime is watching whatever gay memes pop out of titktok about it.
It's insane how IQ points drops like anchors on this site when summer rolls around.

>>280322451
Eren's motivation had nothing to do with revenge. He killed everyone because Mikasa rejected him.

>>280324466
Anyone born after 1987 has low IQ
>before 1987 average IQ 95 to 110 (hence shounen MC like luffy, naruto and goku are deemed retards)
>post 1987 to current average IQ 85 to 95 (this explains why some consider boruto a genius despite his 90 IQ)
Blame your government for that drop on intelligence.

>>280322255
That's wild, I completely forgot about that

>>280291303
Yang just took a tactical semicircle nap to enjoy his pension and read some history books.

>>280291901
>main character dies
>anime continues

>>280291419
>Code Geass (Yes yes I know I know)
Know what, Lelouch dies. Even shit like Resurrection has him explicitly come back to life rather than have never died.

>>280291597
;-;

>>280291901
Talentless Nana?

>>280319017
And? He is the one helping the world

>>280292598
he fucking dies??

>>280325398
Know that he maybe wasn't dead, it was always up for debate in the original and I haven't seen the sequels/spin offs to know the context behind him coming back.
It is somewhat annoying it being confirmed in either direction though.

>>280326820
Nana is the MC.

>>280291237 (OP)
There definitely is no anime like this, none of the replies to this thread are correct

>>280295886
>main character can't be a villain
based retard

>>280291901
Expedition 33 (it helps Verso to get laid though).

>>280320607
this

>>280291237 (OP)
>ctrl+f Ichise
>0 results
>ctrl+f texhnolyze
>1 result

Amateurs

>>280291901
>inb4 Yoshi
And also Onishi. And Shinji.
Seriously its crazy how much MC energy the men of Texhnolyze had

>>280318915
You're going to carry that weight
>>280291237 (OP)
OP doesnt even know pic related ffs

>>280293616
And it isnt even the last time it happens, he goes for a double kill near the end of Stone Ocean

>>280322451
>just be a cuck and let the people who still want you and your people dead get off scot free

>>280291237 (OP)
Devilman? Main character got choked in half and it just ended.

>>280331054
Butcha-U made some good paizuri of her

>>280293616
>story continues
thread was talking about story ending after the death of the MC, anon

>>280304412
So, and I'm sorry to have to invoke it, kind of like Rick and Morty, where "our" Rick fucks up the whole world and then takes "our" Morty and flees to a parallel timeline where the native R&M just died, then the story continues in that timeline. And I guess the fact that he, too, was originally from yet another timeline, a different one from "our" Morty's native one that he ruined.

Or maybe more aptly, any Days of Future Past-style comic story where a future version of a character comes from a bad future to try to prevent it, just seen from their point of view rather than the "present" protagonists.

>>280292598
Kurobros FORGOTTEN, BETRAYED and REPLACED

A top candidate for a truly anti-climactic death but in a good way since the show constantly makes a point that ninja are disposable tools.
No goodbye speech, no lasting impact, just a nice guy who failed his mission.

>>280313502
You deserve to be rich and happy because your parents, presumably, took efforts to ensure that you were. If not your parents, then an ancestor at some point. Clearly, someone did something right, something smart, or at least got lucky, and the succesors kept it going somehow.

I work my ass off to provide my daughter with a better life than I had growing up. She deserves that degree of comfort and safety because I fucking worked for it. If I can create generational wealth and leave assets for her and for her descendants, I will. And her (or those descendants) not earning those assets directly and personally doesn't invalidate the fact that I worked to provide said assets to them. It's my gift to them, they deserve them.

>>280331685
It is your gift to your daughter's husband

>>280293037
muh fuckin heart.

>>280291901
There was some horror manga I read that was kind of like this. Starts off introducing this guy who is clearly supposed to be the MC and it follows him for the first handful of chapters establishing that he's the central character out of the cast. He even does the whole speech trying to rally everyone together because they all woke up in this weird place full of monsters.
But then when they get confronted by a monster there's this whole plan how to take it down with the "MC" leading the charge. It goes wrong and the monster gets the MC and he has this whole inner monologue about how he's counting on the others to save him, but then reality kicks in and he realizes that no one is moving to come help him because they still don't know what the fuck is going on and aren't about to risk themselves for some random guy. And then he ends up just getting killed by the monster and everyone is like "wtf was that retard's problem?" and moves on like nothing happened.
It continued on after that but it was a pretty funny bait and switch. Wish I could remember the name of the manga.

>>280331357
the series is literally named after jonathan, he's the eternal main character up to the universe switch

>>280313502
Consider the following.
This is an American board.
American culture has been shaped consciously and unconsciously by Protestantism and Calvinism, two mental illnesses that believe in shit like Predestination (before you are even born God already chose if you are going to Hell or Heaven) and that a successful work ethic (being wealthy, having a socially enrichening career, being an important part of the local economy) is a positive sign of Predestination, meaning that if you are rich (or born rich) it must mean that God loves you, and if you are in a bad spot (being depressed, being poor, being unpopular etc) you will go to Hell, because this is a Just World and good people prosper, bad people suffer because they deserve it inherently.
Elon Musk will go to Heaven because God chose to make his parents bilionaires, so he deserves it, your poor ass was made to suffer in this world and the next because God loves to make 99% suffer for shits and giggles.
Read >>280331685, it's basically saying "the sins of the fathers will be paid by stoning seven generations of their sons" and "the end justify the means, if I get rich it means I deserve it and if you can't you never deserved it."
By this logic if one is born from an AIDS-ridden whore they deserve to suffer all their lifetime because they have to reap the consequences of having chosen the wrong parents.

>>280318984
That's pretty damn easy, just make the protagonist the bad guy. I mean, Death Note kinda basically did it. Light had a lot of winning sure, but in the end lost.
If you made a story about Hitler, or a lot of famous figures for that matter, that's how it would end. There's other examples in the thread too.

Or you could even just have the story end on a bad note with the good guy protag losing and evil prevailing. What really matters for a story is the struggle, even if they fail in the end. What I imagine OP is more focused on is less in the plot and more of in the storytelling, where it heavily LOOKS like just another moment where the MC is cornered and about to die but is gonna turn the tables like usual, but actually you get subverted and this time it's serious and the story ends.

>>280312354
Since Light is ultimately right and violent criminals are a nuisance to society who are better off dead, there had to be a contrived way to misinterpret his ideals in the most retarded way to make him "wrong" and end the manga

>>280291597
NANDO DEMO

>>280291901
Akame ga kill anime

>>280327452
she wasn't for the first episode

>>280315984
You seem pretty upset. Of course, I am looking for clarification, because the argument is poorly stated. I disagree with the basic assertion of the argument, as you can see here >>280311507. The point I am challenging is the answer to the question why crime is bad, because my assertion is that >>280311407 has it backwards: Crime does not destroy the social order, the social order being destroyed causes crime.
I am asking questions to clarify the point that crime is the result of an unfulfilled social contract. And while not everyone who is in such a position will do such things, it is expected that people will.

>it can be said that redeeming criminals is better than killing them, but killing them is probably better than not doing anything at all.
This is a dichotomy nobody is talking about. It's not "crime is legal" or "every crime is death", because that has nothing to do with anything.

>What is YOUR stance on Kira and his actions?
It is obviously bad and stupid, because Light is a stupid child and thinks like a stupid child.
Death Note in the broader sense is a critique of the 99% conviction rate in Japan, in case you missed that.

>What is the closest thing to TRUE justice?
Why, a criminal justice system that works and a society that doesn't incentivize people to commit crime by having them live shit lives with nothing to lose.

>>280333281
Light gleefully killed innocent FBI field agents

>>280293037
The teenage girl's reaction is so fucking real, pleading for her life, asking for a little more time to enjoy her life. None of your trope of a brave heroine until the very end. It's even more painful that just a year later, the voice actress died of terminal cancer. By the time she recorded those lines, she already knew her diagnosis. What we heard was from the bottom of her heart, damn it.

I'll always remember the music playing in the background as she and Chrono enjoy their last moments "playing" house.

>>280304412
god damn this dimension hop/time travel shit is so gay and it sucks, ironically, DBZ is the only anime who did it right

>>280335311
>FBI field agents
>Innocent

>>280291281
only after a long run with a story that slowly went nowhere

>>280312547
you can always stop being a dumb retard and get a job

>>280313308
dis nigga really tryna justify nigger behavior sheesh

>>280291597
It is a good place to stop watching. Them and Nowak carried the show.

>>280335928
but can you, though?
Fulltime employment at minimum wage is too little to survive.

>>280293037
https://youtu.be/QhtErfkMlJc?list=RDQhtErfkMlJc&t=48

>>280335241
>Crime does not destroy the social order, the social order being destroyed causes crime
both can be truth, and despite straight up killing criminals not being a ideal solution, it will reduce crime simply because there's one less criminal around, and the fear/intimidation factor to the remaining criminals

this is what happens in the story and in real life ie El Salvador, personally I dislike mass incarcerations but it's vastly preferable than Commiefornia's policy of not arresting people as long as whatever they're stealing is worth less than $1000

>>280336186
Fear of consequences does not meaningfully disincentivize crime, because people rationalize consequences away by saying "I'm not gonna get caught".
Killing a criminal also doesn't mean you kill someone who did a crime, because confoundingly, a criminal is not someone who did a crime.

>I dislike mass incarcerations but it's vastly preferable than Commiefornia's policy of not arresting people as long as whatever they're stealing is worth less than $1000
This has nothing to do with anything, I am not sure why you bring it up other than to signal your beliefs.

>>280336004
>but can you, though?
Yes, there's infinite gas stations and doordash will hire literally anyone, there's zoomers on YT making a living of delivering food

>Fulltime employment at minimum wage is too little to survive
Realistically, any job in the US pays more than the min wage, fucking McDonald's pays 15 to 20 a hour, below the ideal, but you can survive and thrive on it

>t. former poorfag who worked my ass off

>>280336358
>a criminal is not someone who did a crime
???
A smoker is not someone who smokes?

>>280336358
>Killing a criminal also doesn't mean you kill someone who did a crime, because confoundingly, a criminal is not someone who did a crime.
What the fuck

>>280336400
A criminal is someone who has been convicted of a crime.

>>280336358
>Fear of consequences does not meaningfully disincentivize crime
I gave you a real life example, El Salvador, it's simple, join a gang and you will get arrested for 30 years, safest country in the americas

>a criminal is not someone who did a crime
nigga WHAT

>I am not sure why you bring it up other than to signal your beliefs
two different public policies that were meant to reduce crime, one worked, the other didn't, and the one that worked is more similar to Light's approach

>>280336481
No, the correct term is convict.
Someone who has been convicted of a crime is a person who has been found guilty of a criminal offense.
You can be innocent and be convicted.
A criminal is someone who committed a crime, even if they are never caught.

>>280336481
And if they are innocent?

Story ended after the MC died, because it got axed. Truly a curse, for all unique and non formulaic stories to die like this. I blame the low IQ audience

>>280291901
Gurren Lagann

>>280337025
This makes me sad. I feel bad for her.

>>280291237 (OP)
Dunbine and Ideon, though it's more like everyone fucking dies.

>>280302480
Until the author poorly copies Higurashi no Naku Koro ni.

>>280324202
>it's the same kind of hope as believing your dog really is just living on a farm.
Wait....he's not? :(

>>280337025
Was this the silly manga about a mass produced "hero" who gets his power by abusing "my dear ally died" narrative powerup?

>>280291237 (OP)
You'd be correct

>>280318984
Kinda? You don't even need to make the ending satisfying, most romcoms end with status quo, which is basically the same as failing to achive the goal.

>>280312547
>Is it in the interest of "personal gain" to commit an act for personal gain?
Never change /a/, or more like you can't change, you just can't grow up lmao

>>280331539
So what exactly happens here. Why his eye pooped out if it was just a clean cut (from what I'm understanding)

>>280339278
Spike died before the show began anon, that’s the whole “one eye sees the future and one sees the past” at the end the zoom in on the one eye is supposed to leave it vague as to if he survives, but I don’t think he wants to. It’s like the sopranos where it leaves off on a direct vaguerie rather than just flat out telling you what happens

If it helps I also choose to believe he survives

>>280291901
This is what must have happened with Eren in his first death, establishing the tone of the story and the message: don't get attached to the characters, passing the perspective to a new MC, Mikasa or Armin, and so on, no mysteries or conspiracies, just survival in a hostile environment.

Watching each of the cadets die, until the few survivors become tutors for the next generation of cannon fodder. It wouldn't have been as high-profile, but it would have had a more decent ending without all the hype and disappointment.

>>280336604
>>280336625
But how would you know he's a criminal if his crime was so perfect that no one but him knows it? He might even go so far as to erase his own memory so he doesn't remember his crime.

I think there are some anime where MC is the bad guy, only he forgot or lost his memory, like Generator Rex or Magneto from X-Men when he dejuvenated (They're cartoons, but they're the ones I remember the most). Often, the rest of the cast treats them as different people: the evil person from the past and his current friend.

>>280340215
His head wasn't cut, you can see it intact afterwards. The way I see it, the blade was softened by the airbag but still did enough blunt impact damage to make his eye pop out.
Doesn't really make sense but I think that's what's going on.

>anime is about the meaning of letting go of things
>right in the middle of the plot, when things have gotten really interesting, the airing just stops, no more episodes
Kino...

>>280332474
>Hitler
>the bad guy

>>280346740
Yes, unless you're one of those "the good guys lost" schizos

>>280347018
lol
fool or jew

>>280338264
Don't feel sad for a woman. They willingly choose to sleep with murderers and psychopaths
>>280347018
Lol it's 2025, your brainwashing does not work anymore. Most people see Jews for what they really are, it's only the right wing retards who still fellate Israel because of the CP blackmail from EpsteinCo

Better question, /a/, is there a anime or he two in which the MCs seed actually impregnates the vagoo of which the hips are moving on their own?

>>280291901
Gantz, the manga goes to complete shit exactly since it keeps pulling shit like this.

>>280303459
pretty fucking based by the author desu

>>280342040
ancestral blood knowledge and his inferior physiognomy. go fuck yourself

>>280325087
Yang was never the main protagonist

>>280349953
if only Kircheis were here...

>>280348525
Mushoku Tensei? It's pretty obvious and an old series.