Sasuke Recovery Mission
Chapter 194: Taking Stock
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>>280275979 chapter 192-193
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>>280345089>"gentle" fist.
>>280345208>Tanked itKidomaru is so strong!
>>280345208>>280345231>Tracing GaaraIs this to slightly make up for the fact they never fought?
>>280345208>erm, actually my whole body was covered in this thick armor the whole time, you just didn't notice!
>>280345208This is bullshit we clearly see him getting POKED throughout the fight and his dirty kuro skin still looks the fucking same, not covered in his orange spunk.
>>280345492>Does he have eyes in the back of his head or something?!>And that defensive move... he used chakra to deflect a physical attack?!It would be one thing if it was framed like him momentarily forgetting, but this is implying he doesn't actually know what the Byakugan does or what Rotation is despite the fact that:
>He saw Naruto and Neji's fight in disguise>Orochimaru was also there>Kabuto was also there>And Kabuto is also the guy collecting all info possible on every Konoha ninja, so he should really know about this by proxy
>>280345231So would gentle fist users just be fucked if they tried to fight someone in medieval armor?
>>280345401Nah, Gaara is using chakra to control his sand, so Neji can cut through it. Kidomaru's weird metal sweat thing is specifically stated to not use any chakra.
>>280345231wouldn't this metal nullify Sakon and Ukon's kekkei genkai?
>>280345858>last panelIt's a little thing but I appreciate the continuity and Neji connecting the dots
Don't let it bite ya
Spider bite hurt
>>280345949It should.
Yet Sakon/Ukon are somehow "the strongest". Lol.
I think Kidomaru was the only character in the original series who alluded to video games existing in the Naruto world.
>>280345949>>280346022Sakon and Ukon have more than that one ability.
>>280344980>>280345016>>280345089>>280345120>>280345208Absolute fucking bullshit.
Also how the fuck did Neji not notice the amor midway through the attack?
>>280345858there is like one fisheye lense panel per chapter
>>280345994Are summons the most interesting part of the power system from a worldbuilding standpoint? Like presumably all of these creatures have to exist SOMEWHERE and you can form a contract with them, also implying they've got their own societies somewhere
>>280345949>>280346022Depends if it's organic or not, i also doubt Kidomaru can keep the armour forever.
Chapter 194: Taking Stock
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Tomorrow: Capture...!!
Imagine having trouble against a guy who summons bugs and has some goo armor. Genin Itachi clears this fodder
>>280346208H-Haha yeah bro just make sure Tayuya isn't around.
Naruto wouldn't be able to beat this guy without going full fox mode or summoning Gamabunta.
kek
Need a drawanon to draw Neji like this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=99hDl0eQMR8
Question: Is there anybody who hasn't read or watched this story before viewing these threads and actually gives a shit about spoilers? It's probably pretty pointless to try avoiding them now when the sasukefag could show up at any time and dump the following 2 volumes.
>>280346271The only guy in this series allowed ot lose to a woman is Shikamaru
>>280345994>>280346059one of the weirder aspects of this fight is this gigantic fucking gross spider that doesn't even really get acknowledged and doesn't fight and just shits out babies
>>280346100They were breaking solid rock in base when fighting Kiba, so it's not out of the question that they could punch through it.
>>280345858GAMERS RISE UP
>>280345716I think the implication from the previous chapter was that Oro told him that the byakugan allows Neji to stop chakra circulation, apparently without giving more details.
>>280346058Does Kishi like vidya games?
>>280346408I'm pretty sure he does or at last did.
This neji guy is so cool and well characterized
Iโm sure heโll have a great development in part 2! :3
>>280345716Neji's movements are way too schizo and he's medicated now so he cannot pull out the armchair psychologist that makes him dangerous. That doesn't stop him from seeing Sasuke and Kidomaru as Orochimaru's puppet. Neji taught himself how to use the Hyuga techniques, it's amazing what a mad blowjob from Tenten can do to Neji.
>>280345492That's my genius hero in action
>>280346400>Kidomaru: "Is that it?">Orochimaru: "Look, it's the jobbergan, it's shit compared to the sharingan. You don't have to worry about anything else."
>>280346437He's the genius of his generation. I can't wait to see how he'll measure up to others like Minato, Itachi, and Orochimaru!
>>280345263>because of the gentle fist close combat is a no-noImplying that he fights at close combat with no problems too, and goes sniper mode when the opponent counters it, Kidomaru is really competent.
>>280346437He's DEFINITELY getting a fight with an Akatsuki member. It's going to be FIRE.
>>280346469What kind of content does Neji post?
>>280346437I know, right? I can't wait to see how much stronger Neji and Lee will get, and maybe we'll finally see some Tenten action too.
>>280346531I wonder how good his taijutsu is compared to Tayuya, whose the runner up for weakest at Taijutsu out of them.
>>280345858top panel is one cooler poses from this arc, really like that 1
>>280346334Me and I only come here to read the daily, post what I have to say about it, and then leave. I don't stick around for the 400 posts of 20 year old ritual posting so the schizo spamming chapters out of schedule doesn't affect me.
>>280346190Thanks OP. Nice to see you're a One Piece fan too. Do you prefer Naruto or One Piece?
>>280346334Probably, but ramen doesn't really impose the spoiler rule anyway.
>>280346730Naruto. At least Dosu doesn't hit me as hard as Carrot. Man... The lore just carries the story for me now.
>>280346059>>280346190Something that's not nearly talked about enough is how Kidomaru's projectiles get more fancy and refined as he ranks up the curse mark, which implies that they boost the user's chakra control as well.
>>280346152COOCHIE COOCHIE
>>280345016>>280345089Neji's taijutsu "being carried" by the byakugan is a myth if he can do that with just his pokes.
>>280346824You're not OP...
>>280346926I am. I just try to use the code only for scans.
Had it accidently turned on in the other daily.
>>280347026Damn, i can't believe Ramen is into rabbits.
>>280345949So would hiding and sniping him from a mile away.
>>280347082I mean, unless he hits the head or heart, they would just recover from that.
>>280347078Can that now rest the jeet and I being the same person? lol
>>280346609Kakazu bros, why am I shaking..
what is the name of the bird who randomly appears when something funny or idiotic happens??
>>280345239The funny thing is that it's called gentle because it still hurts like fuck if it only gets a slight touch because it's fucking up your organs directly. A direct blow is still as powerful as a martial artist's punch.
>>280347564It's called gentle because of the visual fancy aesthetic
>>280347646I mean, out of universe sure, but the reason in-universe is what I said.
>>280347628Only reason i think of why Kidomaru isn't black in the BW manga is just so the curse mark stands out more.
>>280346664>Tayuya, whose the runner up for weakest at Taijutsu out of themHuh?
>>280345208He's clearly not wearing the armor in any of these panels.
>>280344980>>280345016>>280345089Did Kishimoto think we couldn't turn back a few pages and check?
>>280347718In comparison to the others, she is.
>>280345208okay everyone talking about Retrieval Arc being good can shut up, itโs time for the consumate Bad Fight Logic.
>>280346531Kidomaru is a lot smarter than the story gives him credit for.
Figuring out the blind spot in the Byakugan is a more impressive intelligence feat than anything Shikamaru does.
Lot more grotesque in b&w.
>>280347955Kidomaru is probably Kishimoto's best "smart character" in the sense that he doesn't just magically knows what to do or learns shit extremely quickly + gets huge gains under a very small time.
He analyzes the situation and make sensible assumptions about what he observes then test them.
>>280347963See this kind of careful shading gets lost with garish coloring like
>>280345994. The original intention of the artist is superior.
>>280345208>"neji kino">it's shit
>>280347718Naruto literally spends this entire arc jobbing, that aint impressive.
>>280348103You have no taste.
>>280347822I think the idea is the same as the substitution jutsu, where only after the attack it's shown what truly happened.
>>280346105The Byakugan straight up just doesn't work when the plot needs it not to.
>Neji doesn't see Naruto dig underground>Neji doesn't see Kidomaru's armor manifest (or even feel it with his fucking hands)>Neji doesn't see Deidara underground when he switches with his clay clone>Hinata doesn't see that Tobi's chakra and Kakashi's Sharingan are the same color.Somehow, despite not being nearly as powerful as the Sharingan, the Byakugan still wound up being too useful to properly include in the story.
>>280348232pretty much
the hyuga were cheated
>>280345263>kumo>shibariWhy is this guy listing his tags for Naruto rule34?
>>280348297Kidomaru has good taste
https://files.catbox.moe/axtk50.png
>>280348140Hold on let me just whip out another ass pull...
>>280348439What do you think an ass pull is? Neji doesn't show off any abilities he hasn't shown off long before this.
Honestly as far as "asspulls" go this one is basically nothing. It makes sense he can make it through his skin and it's only really here to excuse Neji from ending the fight immediately. The only issue is that we don't see Kidomaru wearing it until it's already been broken(which happened with Gaara as well.).
>>280348232Knowing things is the most dangerous power for the plot.
>>280348698I wonder how the plot would have to change if Hinata figures out Obito is Tobi like 200 chapters before his identity is supposed to be revealed.
>>280348782she doesn't know who the fuck that is
>>280348086Well that's kind of neat, anyways...
>>280348980She doesn't have to. She just has to say, "Hey, Kakashi-sensei, that guy's chakra, at least half of it, is the same color as your Sharingan. What's up with that?" Kakashi puts the pieces together shortly.
>>280349033that sounds completely retarded
TWELVE YEARS AGO A NINE TAILED FOX SUDDENLY APPEARED...
IF YOU BELIEVE IT!
NARUTO! NARUTO!
BELIEVE IT! BELIEVE IT!
HERE I AM WITH MY NINJA CLAN!
NINJA CLAN, HERE WE STAND!
NARUTO, I'M ON MY WAY,
NARUTO, I'LL BE OKAY!
GETTING READY TO FIGHT ON SIGHT!
COME ON BEST FRIENDS BY MY SIDE!
SASUKE, IS REALLY COOL!
SAKURA, THE BEAUTIFUL!
KOWAGARUNA NARUTO SAOTO MAMORE
KOWAGARUNA NARUTO SAOTO MAMORE
>>280344980The coloring looks awful on the top panel
>>280349049You're not even entertaining the thought experiment.
>>280345089super palmio 64
>>280345208>goldLooks more like puke
>>280348495Neji only really makes an asspull at the end of the fight.
>>280345445This? Nullifies chidori.
Why did Neji use 64 palms here against Kidomaru's base form when later on he shows that he can easily instakill his C2 form with a single clean regular poke?
>>280349049Seeing chakra colors is a byakugan abiltiy, What's retarded about that?
>>280347078To be fair, Carrot is really cute.
>>280349241At first he wasn't taking Kidomaru that seriously and at the end he had multiple gapping holes and probably didn't have enough adrenaline to flex there.
>>280345445So this is basically a full body rasengan?
I think it's funny that Jirobo and Kidomaru are the only ones whose fights wouldn't have changed at all if the fight with the jonins didn't happen beforehand.
>>280349397Not exactly. Rasengan uses many different spirals within the chakra to make it chaotic and amplify its power. This is just unidirectional rotation.
>>280348232Menawhile the sharingan gets random bullshit powerups every other chapter
>>28034924164 Palms is kind of weird in general, is it supposed to be just a technique for capturing opponents?
>>280345492So he was told about the gentle fist. But what he is thinking here implies that orochimaru didn't tell him what Byakugan does?
>>280349241Presumably if he used it here it would've killed Kidomaru even harder. I think the version he used on Naruto was intentionally nonlethal because he wanted to emphasize how futile the struggle was.
>>280349745It was non-lethal, which is weird because it's the only time we see the 64 palms land on a named character.
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We are, The Taka
>>280346190>instead of moving, i will stand in place and use the exact same move i just showed my opponentThis is the genius of the Hyuuga?
>>280345572>>280348232Maybe there was a skin matching technique that dissolved once the armor itself dissolved? The better question is how neji didn't notice that lol
>>280350871We see the fit, Sakon and Tayuya.
Naruto is a gateway anime of the worst kind. It's a bad series, a clusterfuck of story and characterization that isn't very well done by any aspect, but which attempts to compensate for its weaknesses by adding in excessive shipping faggotry and DARKNESS. The normal anon can see this as the shit it is, and may enjoy it, hate it or be indifferent to it, but all the while recognizing that the series itself, regardless of their opinion, is plain bad.
However, these very aspects that try to smear over the shit of its core make it a breeding ground for aspie, unsociable underageb& faggots who engage in every kind of faggotry both online and in the real world. The superpowered characters all trying their hardest to look cool, the jutsus, peculiar, colorful clothes, the whole ninja faggotry and everything about the Naruto world fuels their escapist fantasies, while the pity-party character backgrounds, emphasis on revenge, and overall preachiness of the series make it fit just right with the mary-sueish drives of your average preteen and his sense of unwarranted self-importance towards the world. Exactly the kind of shit that makes little kiddies and underageb& retards eat this shit right the fuck up.
Naruto is basically THE series to attract the most hated anime fanbase known to /a/, which is why, regardless of individual opinions, it is the responsibility of every anon to troll the fuck out of this show and everyone who likes it, and ensure that no Naruto threads ever encourage the newfriends to show their faces here.
>>280346190Thanks OP
>>280348074I have a schizo overthought theory about Kishi's intelligence.
Shikamaru is written as the lazy genius, the shogi player whose fights play out as chess matches in their own right, with him almost always winning with that, "cool", come-from-behind, victory snatched from the jaws of defeat moment. Well, most fights in Naruto go like that I guess.
Now I've never played shogi, but they tell me it's a lot like chess. And chess matches dont really go like this. With two high level players it's very likely they both have a very good impression what the other is capable of, based on board state. If one is on the backfoot, it's unlikely he's going to "surprise" his opponent with a checkmate out of nowhere. This is why amateur games go till the last move of the last piece available and pros can tell you after losing a couple pieces that the board cannot be recovered.
But it's boring to just show the memorization of maneuvers, the practice games, the actual work that goes into being good at something. It's much more interesting to just have your character be a stoic genius who "figures out" at the last second how to win everything.
Shikamaru is almost always on the backfoot against a superior opponent, and manages to win almost every time. My point is, Kishi thinks hes writing this interesting parallel to shogi when I'm guessing that no such parallel exists and he's just too brainlet to even know it.
>>280345858I guess video games exist in the naruto universe somehow, because chakra.
>>280352190they exist because the naruto verse has modern technology
>>280352190Electricity exists. How it functions...
>>280351340>Karin is just Tayuya redone>Suigetsu is just Sakon redone>that other guy is just Jirobo/Kidomaru mixed together
>>280349745>>280350691>The only other being that got hit with 64 palms was the mini-juubi and it doesn't even have organs
>>280349241Neji is tied with Shino as most likely to go for the kill in Konoha. The adults don't care if Neji murders a genin as long as it's not Naruto, Hinata, or his proctors. Same reason the sand siblings pretty much murdered the others
>>280352276You got it wrong, Juugo is a mix or Jirobo & Sakon and Suigetsu is also another take on Sakon.
Nobody reseembles Kidomaru in taka unless you count Sasuke using a bow
>>280344941 (OP)what is happening with naruto's legs
>>280352522I guess Kishi forgot to draw a hand instead drew a foot
>>280345208now that's the naruto writing I remember
>>280351414It's laughably bad and the fans are cringe, but I would take them any day over the outright pedophiles that infest this media format.
>>280349273Based. I miss her like you wouldn't believe.
>>280351524Kishimoto is just trying to replicate the feeling of YuYu Hakusho with Shikamaru as the leader. The problem is Togashi made the heroes dropouts trying to make bail with no official leader. Naruto never bothers to study the same way Kuwabara does, and he doesn't have connections the same way Yusuke does. Smart characters like Sakyo and Sensui don't really fight the heroes as so much satisfying their deprived fantasies. Sasuke doesn't have that unhinged look or understanding Toguro has
>>280352882I think Kabuto could partially be inspired by the doctor from Yu Yu which is partly why Kabuto's characterization seems out of whack sometimes (since doctor wasn't an incredibly fleshed out character and got minimal screentime past his few chapters)
>>280352882I'm gonna pretend you didn't equate Toguro with Sasuke.
>>280345382>that kunai was a decoyWhen it isnt?
>>280353505Sasuke's motive is to get stronger because he was powerless to defend his family. Sasuke lost because he doesn't know how to use 1 percent of his power, 100 percent against Naruto. Really if Naruto was made in the 90s, he could get a good VA to make him psycho. He's like younger Toguro .
>>280353505Well, both sold their souls and became "monsters" for power.
>>280344980>>280345016>>280345089Imagine hitting a guy 64 times without realizing that you've hit solid rock every time and never hit skin.
Absolute buffoonery.
>>280345208>You know that trick the sand freak can do? Hold my beer.>>280346190Thanks OP!
>>280354605tbf, I feel like Neji probably hasn't actually connected vs a real human too many times with that technique, I mean who volunteers to let themself get hit with that?
>>280347718>>280346700>seeโs tayuya My beloved
:*<
>>280345231>"Are you a monster?">Has 6 armsWhat do you think?
>>280352276> >Karin is just Tayuya redone>Suigetsu is just Sakon redone>that other guy is just Jirobo/Kidomaru mixed togetherWhatโs worse is that they were nowhere near as interesting and cool as the sound 4 where and it wouldnโt have taken much effort to retcon them as Alive again.They actually had some history with sauske even if itโs brief. Tayuya could have easily taken the same role that karin did except sheโs not constantly drooling over sauske and was actually competent. People till this day wonder if tayuya had uzumaki heritage and What was the point in even making Karin an uzumaki if she has not meaningful interactions with Naruto ffs
>>280354939I-it's not like I wanted you to bite me or anything you baka homo..
>>280345208Kidomaru actually looks intimidating as fuck in the 1st panel, that'd make for a cool masked design
>>280353505They're actually pretty similar, quality of writing aside.
>>280358476Did he make it to the forest of death?
>>280352276>>280352359Jugo especially feels like a Jirobo clone, considering how they're both the big silent gingerheads of their group, and even their names sound similar.
>>280345263>>280345492>>280345521it's really nice seeing Kidomaru figure out informations we as readers are already more than familiar with. The fight is written a lot more from his perspective than from Neji's, it's unusual and fun
>>280345716>He saw Naruto and Neji's fight in disguiseyou're right, I completely forgot that. And evidently so did kishimoto.
>>280345858at least this flashback makes sense, Neji was there when Sasuke first activated the seal back in the forest. Though this reminds me now that of the entire Sasuke-retrieval-squad Kiba is the only one who has absolutely no idea what a cursed seal even is, we'll have to keep that in mind when his fight starts.
we are so depressed Neji won't do anything in the series from now on that the thread died kek
Kidomaru is really cool honestly. Like others said, he's also one of the most believably smart characters in the story.
>>280362279Even though the Sharingan is so busted, the Hyuuga are actually too busted to keep using, just in a different way. So much of the progression of fights and the overall plot in Naruto is based on information being withheld, often visually. Having someone who can see through objects, as well as kill enemies with a touch, is too hard to write around for Kishimoto. I should know, I've written fanfiction about it.
Arachnophobes, don't read this chapter.
>>280363706Shillfic anon, please
>>280364541I have no interest in shillfic and I wouldn't dare share my fanfiction here.
>>280364956cool story, shillfic
go on about how op hinata and neji would be if taken to their logical conclusion in your authors notes again
>>280364982I have no idea what you're talking about but it sounds like it sucks.
>>280365183cool story, bro
>>280363706>Having someone who can see through objects, as well as kill enemies with a touch, is too hard to write around for Kishimotothe obvious stuff was to create some obstacles for the Byakugan: a forbidden jutsu who doesn't allow the eye to see everything, or some weaknesses that were always there and Neji/Hinata find out later when some clans attack and Hiashi has to fight them.
>>280363706To be fair, the Sharingan wasn't always busted.
When it started out, it was just a really good eye that was really good at seeing things. But the Byakugan was better because it was better at seeing.
The Sharingan only became busted because Kishimoto kept buffing the shit out of it with powers completely unrelated to sight.
And the Byakugan had to get subtly nerfed because, as you said, knowing things is the most dangerous power against the plot.
>>280346190Thank you for posting.
I'm just glad none of you are obsessed with some tertiary loli enough to shit up the daily.
yawn
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>>280367716Problems happening in another thread?
>>280367700>knowing things is the most dangerous power against the plot.those things can be used against the Byakugan user. deception works in the same way as in any other fight but Kishimoto never used a concrete rule to his power system
>>280367672Sasuke when fighting Isshiki used a special dust capable to block the byakugan.
>>280367716Well you'd be wrong. We do have someone like that.
>>280368692that's non-canon
>>280368692>just casually create a special dust to completely nullify one of the most powerful special eyesAnd we couldn't do the same for the Uchihas?
>>280367872Who is she calling Boring?
>>280368924You already have hidden in the mist jutsu for that.
>>280369783the land of waves
>>280370080Sakurabros...our girl has bad taste...
>>280353473God I was that was me
>>280370187She's right, that arc gets too overrated
>>280370722What are Sakura's favorite arcs?
>>280370838[SPOILER]Gaara[/spoiler] retrieval
>>280345994The spider is a lot more basic looking than I remember. Still cool though.
>>280370722Why is she eating so smugly?
>>280371700She drinks even smugger
>>280352190The real question is how Kidomaru plays them when he's working for Orochimaru. Like, when does he have time for gaming and why is he allowed to do it at all?
>>280372940Probably when he's resting or recovering from missions.
>>280352190>Kidomaru has four arms so he can play, eat/drink, and fap at the same time.A gaming GOD. Dude would've probably became a game dev in the Boruto era.
>>280374692>Most of Sound's new budget comes from Kidomaru's streams.
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where is the live action movie? where are the new 4 episodes? Kishimoto is a fucking hack
>>280376180>live action movieProduction hell from the looks of it.
>new 4 episodesLost media. Seems like some shady stuff was going on behind the scenes, either poor quality or wasn't really made aka a scam and they aired being aired.
>>280376310do the japanese studios hate Naruto or something? or some Pierrot staff are sabotaging the episodes?
>>280346129Kishi was at his artistic peak in this arc. A bunch of playing around with perspective.
>>280376410They seem to be short on animators and probably cheap too since the Boruto anime was heavily outsourced before it hit hiatus. They probably ran into the same problem with the 4 episodes. It was fishy that NO screenshots or previews were shown of them at all.
Tayuya death chapter is coming closer โฆ
Chapter 195: Capture...!!
>>280377000You are my friend. aa ano hino yume ima demo
>>280376937I'm unironically expecting a big happening before those chapters drop on this daily
HOW ABOUT YOU JUST MOVE TO ANOTHER LOCATION, YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER
IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE STAPLED DOWN TO THE SPOT
>>280377192he wants to see that big fucking spider, it looks kinda cool
>>280377192in their world everything moves a lot faster
>>280377123Do you even physics neji
>>280377452Neji isnโt a girl anon he just has long hair
>>280376616Well, the artstyle will definitely go to shit in the next arc, so you might as well enjoy it while you can.
Sharingan
>can instantly copy enemy techniques
>greatly enhanced reflexes and eyesight
>dozen of techniques to kill your enemy with a single glance
>can summon mountain-destroying kaiju and impenetrable armor
>can control tailed beasts
Byakugan
>if you hit the enemy 64 times in a row in hand to hand combat, you mightโve won the battle
>also good eyesight xD
>>280377423>I can't imagine Kidomaru losing
>>280377499>>280377616>>280377616You'd think that either those blades or the spiders would be poisonous, but I don't think the series ever mentions it.
>>280377423This is the one time we see a sound 4 member show respect to another.
>>280377663I thought the baby spiders would try to bite him or something but it seems their only purpose is to shit strings on him
Zoning is OP in the Naruto universe, yet only Kidomaru and Deidara ever truly take advantage of it.
>>280377620Sasuke would die to Kidomaru here btw.
>>280377715>Kidomaru read the script
>>280377663poison would be cheating. This isn't just about winning, Kidomaru uses the spiders and weapons in carefully adjusted ways to test and confirm his theories about the extend of Neji's abilities.
It's kind of absurd how Kidomaru can make so many of these spider daggers and set them up so goddamn quickly. And it seems to cost him basically nothing.
>>280377715>>280377746https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pnO1iq1ggo
>>280377715>>280377755Honestly, like how Kidomaru is basically a darker yet more child-ish take on chunin exams Neji.
>>280377695the most OP jutsu is preventing naruto to Talk no Jutsu your ass so zoning is the best idea (or zoning the Uchiha so he can't plot no jutsu no plot amaterasu armor)
>>280377715>literally calls Neji and NPC
>>280377746>>280377774That's...not how Spider guts look.
Also, you COULDN'T have seen it with the byakugan?
>>280377665If Kidomaru's hypothesis is correct then Hiashi knew about this but didn't tell Neji about the blind spot at all
>>280377817>they're released from over 50 meters awayarea of the fight seems much smaller than that
>>280377746this spider summon is so weird, it basically just sits still and shits out babies (which also don't really move much and just fall down), and it's last effort "attack" is also just falling on to the target. you'd think spiders were more agile than this
Chapter 195: Capture...!!
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Tomorrow: The Strongest Enemy!!
>>280377774>>280377825I can't tell if it just despawned or if Neji's gentle fist made it explode into spider web.
>>280377869Nobody tells shit in this manga.
>>280377247I forget that this was anime-only
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZspiyxKFpSM
>>280377894Kidomaru's second state looks a lot cooler than Jirobo's.
>>280377869why assume Hiashi knows about the blind spot?
>>280377894>Kidomaru is a camping sniperYou just know that he's a sweaty metafag in any game he plays
>>280377896The implication is that it exploded into webs.
>>280377894Btw, this is most improved redraw from the weekly release, and apparently it was done because Seishi said the original sucked lol.
>>280377894Neji hasn't been able to do shit to Kidomaru so far, going CS2 here is pure flex for the sake of it.
>>280377894>3 eyes>6 armsabsolute freak of nature
>>280377452no, there's still a couple chapters before she shows up to save her man
>>280378010Do you have the original?
>>280377894If Neji's eyes let him see all the conspiracy theories in the world, what does Kido's 3rd eye let him see?
>>280378021yeah but does he have Talk no Jutsu by Naruto powerup?
>>280377869>>280377951I would assume all the Hyugas know that they have a blind spot. They're the ones using the eyes after all. Wasn't there a training-scene earlier this arc where Neji failed to spot a bird behind him?
>>280377869Didn't Neji already know about the blind spot?
>>280378103there's a drawing next chapter that shows how narrow that blind spot actually is. Kidomaru was maybe like the 1 in 10 million opponents who could actually hit neji because he controls the arrow with his chakra
You can tell Kishimoto blew his load with this fight and didn't put the same amount of effort with the others.
>>280378197Kidomaru was the only opponent in the entire series to even figure it out.
>>280378244so why would they learn they have a blind spot and how could they test it? only the main branch jonin can do rotation right?
>>280378333Sparring matches. Obviously one Hyuga likely noticed something.
>>280377499You would think Neji would be chasing instead of letting the guy setup hundreds of projectiles
>>280377423this position is a little uoh
>>280368692That was lab-created, though. Specifically invented to fight aliens, lol.
>>280378021It's a terrible decision metawise.
>>280378045Unfortunately no, but it's in the archives
>>280377423I forget now but did Jirobo ever tell Tayuya to act more ladylike or is that an anime only thing?
>>280378363here is the panel from next chapter
the blind spot is a "minuscule point" so even a finger is defected when you spar and the body is in constant motion and the opponent must be behind at your neck. when does that happen? this is not a weakness to teach future generations
>>280378535Even in this fight it doesn't really make sense. Kishimoto chose the smallest spot possible without really thinking about the PoV moving.
>>280377825I'm guessing the spider isn't even real and just a sort of clone / transformation jutsu
>>280377894Thanks OP. This form alone cemented Kidomaru as my favorite of the Sound Four when I first saw it.
>>280377924The anime really knew how to add some extra flare to fights.
>>280378562kidomaru is using chakra to mainpulate the arrow so in this fight it makes sense. the way Kidomaru loses and dies is stupid and doesn't make any sense though
>>280378573Itโs Kidomaruโs summon anon. Itโs a weird ninja magic spider sure but still a spider.
>>280378651No fuck your "chakra control", you're not hitting that evermoving 1ยฐ spot
>>280378669I'm not saying it's not a summon but it's possibly something he or Orochi created and he can just summon it later. Naruto can turn his body into a shuriken so stupid shit like giving form to sticky webs isn't that farfetched
>>280378794he actually doesn't exactly hit the spot but he makes 2 holes in Neji
>>280378021>>280378444You gotta remember that they were under a deadline to get Sasuke there before Orochimaru body swaps and nobody knows what will happen if they don't meet that deadline.
>>280378045seconding this request. Viz never ran Sasuke Retrieval Arc in the magazine so I have no idea what the closest point of reference would be.
>>280378870the plot twist is that Kidomaru was intelligent enought to figure out orochimaru will kill him anyway so he used this as his last moment of glory
>>280377335It's funny that he immediately thinks "he should have been able to dodge or block them all" instead of thinking "I just overwhelmed him with sheer numbers."
>>280377774Little known fact - Neji is using the same strategy that Naruto used against him in the exams: Get the shit beaten out of you for the entire fight, and win with one hit at the end.
It's a risky move, but it never seems to fail.
>>280377894Thanks OP!
>>280378021Neji killed Kidomaru's spider so he can't stick em anymore.
His poop kunais won't hit anymore.
>>280377869Neji knows about the blindspot. That knowledge is key to his victory.
>>280378979he noticed that he was capable of dodging all of them but some he didn't and it was a pattern
>>280379089>Kidomaru's skin in his normal state is pale whit in the black white version but greyed when he transformsI don't get why they did this.
>>280377774There was always something goofy about this transition.
>>280378962I don't think he'd kill them if they brought Sasuke in time.
>>280378870No, it's a terrible decision because powering up means your opponent will kill you now, it's a losing flag
>>280379298Kidomaru never expressed fatigue over using CM2, so i don't think it really matters, specially when you consider that CM2 allows him to use his Trump card.
>>280379340Obviously talking about in the context of this fight and not the prior fight against the jonins.
>>280379340It's not about fatigue, it just means the hero can kill you since you showed everything. You would never die storywise if you still had hidden jutsu. Powering up while winning is a losing flag
Anyone finds it odd that Jirobo, Kidomaru and the Twins' CM2 are red colored but every other CM2 we see are either dark brown or grey-ish brown like Juugo's?
>>280379358Considering the way Neji won, i don't think it really mattered.
>>280379430Kishimoto wouldn't write a character dying even though he only used 1 of his 2 powerups
>>280379462Meta reasons don't count
>>280379403I wanted to make a joke about Choji taking a red pill and Neji having a swastika on his head allowed them to be the ones who defeated their dark-skinned opponents but that was me completely forgetting about the fact that they became red for some reason, so now the joke's on me
>>280379403why is that odd? they are experiments
>>280379403Control, maybe? Jiro, Kido, and the twins are relatively calm, but Tayuya, Juugo, and Sasuke get mentally unsound.
>>280379139Kidomaru Freaky Tounge Action.
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>>280379139I thought the anime was trailing the manga pretty closely but interesting that there was enough of a gap in production to use the redraw for the anime
>>280378959>Viz never ran Sasuke Retrieval Arc in the magazineThey didn't?
Funny how Kidomaru's transformation was basically recycled for Momoshiki in the Boruto movie.
>>280379858The fuck was Kishi even thinking with that design anyway? Was he trying to make Momo ugly on purpose?
>>280377032>>280377063This way to show it is great.
>>280378779>>280378841>He got hit by one dagger out of hundred, this surely must mean he has a blind spot!Jumping to conclusions there, Chudomaru?
>>280378979This.
>>280378979He knows Neji is a real one. Doesn't want to underestimate him. Of course, he still does.
>>280377423Both Kidomaru and Sakon love playing with the opponents, even if it seems Kidomaru is more focused on those who impress him, considering he immediately started testing the Byakugan after seeing it in action.
>>280377894Thanks OP.
>>280378021He explains it here
>>280377817, it's his thanks for letting him have fun.
>>280379139Based schizo brother. He should've pestered him more often.
>>280346105>Also how the fuck did Neji not notice the amor midway through the attack?It's called Gentle Fist for a reason. Most of the force is coming from the chakra he's ejecting from his fingertips
>>280377894>>280379139The redraw is superior but I love the way Kidomaru uses his three right arms to generate as much tension as possible in the original.
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I recall Neji using 128palms in the anime but I don't think he did that in the manga, didn't see it here in these chapt'ers. I believe Neji vs Kidomaru was released as a 2parter episode as a New Years special when it came out so maybe they wanted to hype it up more. Honestly this doesn't matter much but I think there was a plotpoint where Hinata can just barely use 32palms so Neji being able to pull off 128 instead of just 64 makes Hinata look like a bigger shitter, but the gap from 32 to 64 isn't so bad
>>280378975I've always liked it when villains started talking in those meta-terms before getting btfo'd, felt like Kishi was assuring me that he doesn't believe those things even if he does, judging by how he treats side characters
>>280380275Hinata never attempted 64 palms in the manga so it wasn't a problem but i believe her stumbling at 32 hits was in reference to Guren filler.
I remember thinking as a kid that 128 palms was just some shit the developers for Ultimate Ninja came up with. Like Sakura having Kurenai's genjutsu and Lee have shadow clone afterimage attacks with the gates.
>>280380199I think it's cool but I think him using his legs while incorporating his webs in the redraw is cooler.
>>280379001>>280379028Hyuga genius my asshole. How about moving the fuck away instead of trying to cosplay Kakashi?
>>280380410>>280380528I really don't mind Kishimoto sidelining Hinata if this is the goofy shit he would have her get up to.
>>280380408>another lost fight Hinata is a shitter
>>280380564It's not that bad and not so different from Rasengan, she just emits a fine beam from her palm instead of a massive ball, it's almost like Kabuto's chakra scalpel in a way
>>280380528>>280380589>>280380688Kishimoto probably looked at this and went "No."
>>280378630>>280378652>>280378672>Kidomaru immediately manages to stops Neji's absolute defence, and yet Neji still dodges most of his attackIt's easy to see they're both great fighters.
>>280368839h is even less than tertiary
>>280380564No, think about it. The Hyuga are naturally able to shoot chakra from any part of their bodies. Every other one just use it to force-push or attack internal organs, Hinata is the only one to use it as long distance blades, at least in the anime.
>>280377247IT'S RAINING SPIDERS
HALLELUJAH
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>>280377423kidomaru is a confirmed rapist
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KYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
>>280377560neji is very close to being a girl
>>280377715neji looks so cute with his hair like that
I bet he'd look even better in a frilly dress
>>280380688>>280380410>>280380528>>280380589This move was so cool they gave wit to her in the Storm games.
>>280380528This mini-arc was kind of peak with Hinata's female form
>>280380956Why do they hate her?
>>280380887>>280380942>They didn't watch the Rock Lee spinoff
>>280378021He just said he needed more power to make up for the 50 meter distance
So if Neji can expel chakra from any part of his body without Kaiten, why doesn't he just use that to deflect the projectiles
>>280381116Resource management. Limited chakra shouldn't be spent on something you can do without.
>>280380564>>280380723The pain arc moment is basically Kishimoto's (shitty) take on this anyway.
There will be only two fights remaining that will get attention after this (Shikamaru vs Tayuya and Naruto vs Sasuke).
>>280381020I think even the main shippuden anime crossdressed him at some point
>>280381225I think Kiba jobbing will be enough to get a feel laughs.
>>280380956Could really go for some HQ webms/pngs of these eps
>>280381270Kiba did fine and you guys will apologize
>>280381303He land 2(TWO) hits in the whole fight and the second was on himself.
>>280381303>Kiba did fineLmao
>>280381116Because adding rotation increases the velocity of the chakra.
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>>280381439Kishi TRACED this for Hinata's confession
>>280381116Because then it just becomes a direct output fight, Kaiten is much stronger as it deflects with a rotational movements attacks.
>>280381488>>280381439Why does the filler episode look so better than the big canon
>>280381568>FillerMoment intended to showcase Hinata's growth and make her shine.
>CanonHinata is just a plot-device to free Naruto in a "cool" way.
>>280381568Nevermind I can kind of see it, the shippuden ep has that bloom/glow effect while the p1 filler ep has nicer lighting. Hinata's outfit is more aesthetic and the night time scenery is just prettier
Neji was the best ninja in part 1, I'm not Tenten btw
>>280381754That sounds a lot like something a jobber kunoichi by the name 1010 would sayโฆ
FUCK I forgot:
>>280345089That would've pulverized the Konoha girls
>>280345382These would've skewered the Konoha girls
>>280345445This would've ragdolled the Konoha girls
>>280345521That would've put a hole through the Konoha girls' heads
>>280381270Kishimoto was certainly laughing when he decided that the weakest member on the good guys team should fight the second strongest member of the bad guys team
>>280381211>filler: young woman demonstrates the best of her abilities to save the MC and person she holds dearest>canon: foid gets slapped down in 1 shot while trying her hardestsounds like my hero kishi
>>280345994>>280346095The Konoha girls would've FAINTED from ickiness
>>280377150>>280377218The Konoha girls would've gotten turned into a pincushion
>>280377247The Konoha girls would've gotten SWARMED by the spiders
>>280377306That would've sliced the Konoha girls' shoulders off
>>280377499That would've paralyzed the Konoha girls
>>280377746That spider would've FLATTENED the Konoha girls
>>280377774>>280377817The Konoha girls would've gave up and bled out
I think you can only quote 5 posts before the spam filter kicks in? This feels like a post-hack addition
>>280381988>>280382010Ino and Tenten would have managed.
>>280382010It isn't, it was some months before the hack
>>280381947Shouldn't you be fighting Neji now, Kidomaru?
>>280382120I was alluding to Kimimaro, actually.
>>280382174I saw the joke and couldn't resist, my bad.
It's actually funny how the filler tried pulling a "a-actually Hinata is BETTER than Neji, in her own way!"
>>280382060kinda funny that Tenten's weapon gimmick may as well be an inferior version of Kidomaru just pulling infinite amounts of golden spider kunai from his ass
How would Shino fare against Kidomaru? Will he be hard countered by the spiders eating his bugs/his bugs getting captured by the spider webs or will they manage to sneak on Kidomaru and eat his chakra before he realized what's going on?
>>280377746>>280377774wait so Neji just straight up killed a summon?
>>280382215I don't think they actually did that.
>>280382427Kidomaru's ability to sweat metal would help him protect himself from the bugs, even if Shino managed to put them on him.
>>280382468They kind of did saying her flexy body made her bee killing jutsu practically better than 128palms
>>280382060I can see Tenten lasting for under a minute (maybe), bit what the FUCK can Ino do?
>>280382215>>280382539The anime staff actually thought Kishimoto would care about their filler material.
>>280382215Why do they do that but still made the infamous Hanabi kick gif?
>>280382648The episode where that scene came from actually had it implied that Hinata held back.
>>280382648>infamousNobody outside of here and Maybe 3 Sakurafags on twitter care about that scene.
>>280382648pre-confidence-nata: worse than Hanabi
post-confidence-nata: can stand with Neji
>>280382539so fucking cute
Hinata became the default strongest since Neji dies. Eliminating any competition.
Hinata won the mortality contest.
>>280382539Who made that statement?
Because they would go on and on again about Hinata being behind Neji after that moment.
>>280382784Neji was never the strongest and the real holder of that title is still alive.
>>280382784Hinata surviving a direct hit from Pain puts her on Sage Jiraiya's level using powerscaler logic
The real reason Shino is so strong is his improved taijutsu from all the Hinata sparring while also having has OP family jutsu
Old anime filler is interesting because you could tell the animation staff expected some characters to have a wildly different trajectory than they actually got in canon, that's something I especially noticed with Dragon Ball filler
>>280382215post the full cutesy spinny
>>280378573Kidomaru looks like black Iruka here
How would Temari have done against Kidomaru? Is there any reason to believe his weird spider spit arrows resist wind pressure better than Tenten's jobber ninja tools?
>>280382855I really like their casual look here. More ninja should dress casually.
>>280382687good
a six year old being stronger than a trained ninja or ninja in training is fucking dumb
>>280382858Naruto having a timeskip had high expectations that extended to the people working on the anime. Nobody expected Kishimoto to shave the cast down and focus solely on Nacho and Sauce with a dash of Shikaeinstein and Itachi wanking and calling it a day.
>>280382915If there is anything I'll give shillfic, it's actually bothering to have time progress naturally so you're not wondering how Naruto barely made any progress in three goddamn fucking years
aiiiiieeeeeeeeeee *PLAP**Braap!*
>>280382991>wondering how Naruto barely made any progress in three goddamn fucking yearsThis storytime has made me realize that all the signs towards Jiraiya being a shit teacher for Naruto were there right from the very beginning.
>>280383042that fucking grin, man
>>280383042I remember this fight because of the guy Hinataโs fighting having magnetic powers solely because he fucking ate metal shavings as a child just because he could.
>>280383150>solely because he fucking ate metal shavings as a childThis sounds like some Jojo shit or something.
>>280383156>KekyPOWDon't do that.
How would (You) have buffed the Byakugan in Part 2? Assume Neji or Hinata is a relevant character.
>>280383140More like Kishimoto didn't want Naruto to match Sasuke because it would've concluded the plot too quick. Still funny that Naruto made more progress training with Kakashi and Yamato for under a month than his 3 years with Jiraiya, though.
>>280382752>fights Hanabi won
>>280383217She tanked that?
>>280383355Lol, Hinata never had these kinds of fights in canon outside of her fight with Neji.
>>280383263It doesn't need to be buffed. They just need to be shown actually 1HKOing people like they can. At the very least, let them pull a Mukai and negate any jutsu
>>280383355And shit like this where she just made him kill himself
>>280383355>cut her reaction to the punchLame, that was the best part. Hinata is the designated ryona target
>>280383263The eye itself is perfect as-is. Gentle fist is also perfect. Just have the Hyuugas go through pure taijutsu training like Sasuke did during the chuunin exams to boost their speed. Then they cripple everything in their way by dashing in and either turning off the opponent's chakra network or dealing organ damage.
>>280383400so pure and innocent
makes it so much hotter
>>280383355She got caught by the exact same move each time and the guy just countered her at close range too. So much for Byakugan
>>280383520This is why the Hyuga clan's ayy ancestors do everything in their power to REPLACE the byakugan.
>>280383263It doesn't need a buff.
It just needs to be used in the way that it's stated to be able to be used.
The byakugan's X-ray vision became a little pointless when the sharingan can kinda do it too.
one of you has to be shillfic anon
or all of you are and this is him samefagging
>>280383355Damn, he twisted the fist in her gut and everything. It's little details like that immediately tell you when the animator is a ryonachad.
Would you do this to the 'Nata?
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>>280383709The blood spit that lasts 5 seconds is also a dead giveaway
>>280383814post the full thing
>>280382878It's kind of strange that the anime had Neji start a longass Iruka flashback before this Kidomaru fight started
>>280383837She really does have a nice cake
>>280382858Yamcha and Tenshinhan got a lot of filler that really made you think they were going to be way more relevant than how they ended up being.
>>280383960>It's a "Yamcha is as strong as Recoome" episode
>>280384025Even before that, they changed the scene where Yamcha loses to Mummy to be him fighting until his last breath unlike in the manga where he just gives up, Toei had a completely different view of the cast.
>>280377715>He said the F word...
>>280384041That fight was actually about as good as it gets with the art and animation for that filler hell
>>280383709aiiieeeee my tummy huwwwwwt
>>280384253You think she had ryona sessions with Neji?
Fun fact : the upcoming fight with Tayuya is the last time a named female character ever fights another female character until the end of the manga
>>280384313it happened in front of everyone
>>280384434Can you really call that a fight tho
>>280382060Ino would be icked out by all the spiders.
Hinata really carried this thread
>>280383673Why, did he give some kind of special role to Hinata and Hyuga in his fic?
>>280384962yeah
>>280364541she's the only one besides kakashi who's beaten Naruto since he's become a ninja
>>280381976You forget
>anime makes the scene genuinely heartbreaking through absolute kino direction, animation and music choice and by expanding the fight showcasing Hinata's KAKUGO while also showing how much it hurts her and how hurt Naruto is to see her suffering>Movie only references manga parts of it while also failing to adequately explain why Naruto ignored her confession for so long
>>280385190they fumbled the last so goddamn hard
>>280383263Sharingan movement predictions shit, some form of genjutsu, ability to heighten the physical abilities for a short while, some kind of ult that allows them to shoot out laserbeams (actually just focused chakra).
>>280383353Exactly zero.
>>280385331Technically, they have all of that already. They can see everything inside someone, which would include muscles tensing before the limbs move. Increased visual range can extend the distance they can use genjutsu from because a lot relies on eye contact for some reason, they shoot chakra from their chakra points, and the lion fists are supposed to hurt
>>280381568>>280381688>>280381710Nigga you crazy, that fight was the best drawn thing in that whole arc. Daylight + blues and reds > forced moody lighting in the filler.
>>280381688I've already said it but the anime actually made that a really emotional moment. Even the writing seemed to be more nuanced than usual.
>>280385400The lion fists were a really wasted and needlessly vague concept, the fillers just made them a chakra gauntlets that increase strength somewhat, the databook says that it absorbs chakra and in the movie they do fuck-all lol.
>>280385529I hate to say I also like how shillfic did these
>>280385481The exact moment Kishi stopped pretending Hinata's desire to get stronger meant something. Her reputation never recovered from it really.
>>280385600she never had a reputation
>>280385600Not really
>>280383804I hate that I actually like how this looks despite it being AI. A lot of shit on pixiv is starting to look like actual fanart, and it's alarming
>page 10 already
I was in a bit more of a Naruposting mood than usual today, oh well
>>280385538How so? Also, what i would do is make her switch between lighting and fire fists depending on the occasion. Fire for destroying physical objects and lightning for incapacitating opponents. Alternatively, just let it do what it's supposed to do and make it a counter for ninjutsu, dispelling or absorbing.
>>280385667And that chapter ensured that she never will. Or was it war arc? Or the Last? Boruto definitely.
>>280385400It's really lame how Sharingan can slow everything down and predict movements like supercomputer and Byakugan can't despite giving supposedly better ocular powers.
>>280385696I could make a new thread, I guess.
>>280382641The fucking madlad included Raiga before canonising any of their additions for Hinata.
>>280385709They're the ultimate jutsu of the Hyuga clan. She fucks up Kabuto with an air palm of it, managed to drive Sasori of all people away after he trashed Taka because it can drain chakra from his iron sand, and broke off some OC jonin's head after breaking her neck with it. Really feels like it's as broken as it seems on paper. She hasn't shown any elements with it yet, but I don't doubt it'll eventually come up with Naruto having his own different elemental Rasengans.
>>280380596Does it matter? Even if she won, it would just look like SP throwing her fans a bone.
>>280380945https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUAADDVDqn0
>>280377499>>280377616>>280377665>>280377715>>280377774You really can't blame Hinata too much for not doing better if this is how the supposed genius performs.
>>280384253Jeez, look at that slob.
>>280386000Please understand, Neji has cement lodged in his shoes and forgot he didn't have to just stand stationary in a wide open clearing while a sniper shoots at him offscreen for an hour.
>>280380528>>280380589>>280380589>>280380688>>280381710This is fucking autistic. Anyhow, the canon version of this should've been 64 palms enhanced with Lion fists, something that Hinata hinted at in the war arc. She should've tried to defend against the speedy spikes
>>280382820 with them, succeeding for a couple of seconds before horribly maiming her hands and necessitating Neji stepping in and dying. No, i'm not a shillfic.
>>280377924>>280377247The Byakugan slowing down shit for 64 palms should've been canon, it makes way too much sense.
>>280377032I remember thinking this was his version of sharingan tomoe upgrade.
>>280377665Neji will surely learn and never get stabbed in the back again.
>>280377218Damn, Kishimoto can't show him pulling moves this cool and then make the story all about Uchiha.
>>280386041Yeah, Hiashi had to step in and tickle her until she got rock-hard abs.