>latest chapters were a dud with little discussion after
>tweets promised he would work faster but he is still at the same pace
Looks like the skeptics were right, he gave up

too busy getting sailor moon pussy

I just don't care about the spiders or the criminal underbelly horseshit. The arc is bloated already

>>280360111
Too much fanservice. Not enough respect being given to prior developments.
The succession battle has not been given enough focus. Spiders detract *significantly* from the pacing.
Then there's morena goon squad, which ties into spiders having too much screentime.

As a result, the succession battle was rushed. Not only the halk/ben battle, but also the cursing of fugetsu and melody's response was rushed.
Everything important is being given little time to grow, while retarded irrelevant stuff is being given an inordinate amount of time.
The gangster stuff should've been cut short as well.

We know nothing about any of the other characters on board. Its bad.

>>280359830 (OP)
>latest chapters were a dud with little discussion after
The chapters themselves were fine and had plenty of discussions during publication time. Why do want to force generals on every manga? HxH threads when the manga isn't active usually devolve into characterfaggotry or the usual Hisoka vs Troupe shitposting
>>280360188
I actually agree about the Spiders. Their inclusion doesn't add much and only serves to make the Succession War too similar to Yorkshin. I mean Hisoka vs Spiders again? Seriously? The arc is compelling enough with the succession war and princes themselves so it should put all its focus on that instead of all the mafia/spider/troupe business.

>>280360236
I disagree about the nature of the online discussion. I thought the threads at the beginning of the boat trip were generally productive, trying to figure out motivations, discovering the relations, secrets, powers etc of all the characters

Lots of speculation and theorycrafting. There was a genuine interest in powers and what they could do, and the chapters spawned a lot of enjoyable "fantasy hatsu" discussion as well, given that the scope of available powers appeared to have been expanded.

Now we had chapters with more powers and "interesting" characters being introduced, and yet the discussion failed to materialize. No one cares enough to talk about the story. No one cares enough to go through the motions again, even though we *should* have more stuff to talk about. It just doesn't happen anymore.

I don't think the claim that these latest chapters were "just as good" holds water, when seen through this lens.

but the coins

>>280360441
Hold to it.

>>280360414
The Succession War had tons of discussion in the beginning since it was a new arc with brand new rules and casts of characters. However we are now 13 years in so the mystic and freshness of the arc is gone and we have settled into a rhythm of sorts regarding what kind of information or revelations happen. Succession War also coincided with the popularity of the 2011 anime which brought in tons of new people in.
>latest chapters were "just as good"
I didn't say the latest batch was just as good but that they were fine, they function properly. The Spider/Mafia stuff isn't my cup of tea but overall there is still tons of build up happening.

>>280359830 (OP)
He's obviously grown tired and bored of making the same shonenslop for the last 30 years, but at the same time he cannot stop because it's what pays his bills and a new original work is likely to flop.

>>280360506
>because it's what pays his bills
He is literally rich and married to Naoko Takeuchi. He could retire any time he wants but he doesn't want to since he enjoys making HxH.

>>280360481
I'm mostly disappointed in the card game.
It doesn't work like a battle of wits, stakes aren't explained enough. There isn't enough space given for the heroine to outwit the enemies. Its just a "closed" situation that plays out with terrible dramatic effect

She suddenly gets mind controlled with no visual explanation (because she "cheated") and exposition is given post fact. Its genuinely bad storytelling. Old Togashi would NEVER disrespect game sections in his manga like this before.

Do you think you'd see such a terrible game in Kaiji or Ten for example?
If the "point" wasn't the game aspect of it, why even have a game? Why waste our time going over the cards and the rules?
It feels like overly long setup, that is mechanically dissatisfying to read.

Does anyone have the desire to re-read that section, and why? What do they gain from learning about the tricks? There's nothing there.

In my opinion, that card game single-handedly killed interest in the series. Not only because it was boring, but because it's one of those things that togashi did well in the past, and seeing his decline in stark contrast is painful.

>>280360527
He's not and he can't. Otherwise he would as he's clearly has no passion for his ancient shonenslop anymore.

>>280360561
>If the "point" wasn't the game aspect of it, why even have a game?
The game was an opportunity to provide characterization and delve deeper into character relations.
>In my opinion, that card game single-handedly killed interest in the series.
This is an overreaction IMO. The card stuff is mostly fluff and there are much worse things to actually be upset about, such as the pointless Hisoka teasing or Halkenburg's death being rushed.
>>280360618
>and he can't
He's a millionaire

Did anyone else think the pacing got a little too fast during the last batch? It felt like it only worked well enough because of the long hiatuses in between chapter releases, but if you read it all at once it would be too much.

>>280360641
Halkenburg's death, the martial law thing, Benjamin being deathly poisoned (offscreen!) all happen as a result of the card game hogging the majority of page time at a crucial juncture.

Its genuinely retarded to focus on something that is building up a bit player in morena. Her power has the potential to be dangerous "down the line"? What's the goal here? The focus is all muddled up. Its as if we change focus from the succession struggle to something else. We do this continuously. This makes it hard to care about anything. The audience is hesitant due to focus shifting, the author being fickle. Why engage and become dragged in, if you risk being betrayed and having your effort and attention pulled out from underneath?

One such example are the rules for the game. It was entirely useless to pay attention to those rules, because they didn't play into any of the payoffs. It was useless text on the page. The audience was not rewarded, instead they had their time wasted.

>>280361337
In isolation, the card game wasn't really bad. Its the pacing and placement of events that is the issue which is natural given we get only 10 chapters every hiatus. There were similar problems before of things being offscreened or rushed until the focus shifted back to those events. I mean we have yet to get a pay off for Kurapika's nen classes for and the Silent Majority subplot is still ongoing for example. That is why I said the mafia/spider stuff feel unecessary since they take panel time away from the main event.

I'm sure we will be shown the details of Halkenburg's death and martial law in full later on but the hiatus really destroys the momentum of the story at times.
>togashi spent chapters all on ikalgo's underground adventures

My biggest problem with the card game is that there's no strategy to it. It's all luck and only serves to allow Morena's backstory to be info dumped. That backstory being generic and bad didn't help things either.

>>280361510
Chimera ant arc ikalgo was relevant, because he was supposed to find palm. Which was a loose thread. It also segues into Werefin's plot nicely. Both of them are exciting to watch and ikalgo needs to survive using whatever means he can scrounge which is a nice contrast to the super powered fights. It gives the audience a breather.

Ikalgo was, in other words, fully integrated into the narrative and gave payoffs as the story progressed.

There was no payoff to the morena chapters. Just "lol" you did a thing so the card game doesn't matter. Gay ass rules lawyering deciding the fight. Not the proficiency of the players playing. This doesn't build up morena at all.

>>280360111
>>280360188
It’s too samey as well. Shock porn backstories and adds even more intrigue slowing down the plot. Which sucks because I can’t wait for Kurapika to confront Tserriednich

>>280360506
>he cannot stop because it's what pays his bills
>>280360618
>He's not and he can't.
man you're just fucking retarded aren't you?

>>280361720
Its also redundant because Tse already showed us the "dark underbelly". Its a country with ritual murder, ultra high status nobility with free hands etc etc
We already saw it

>>280359830 (OP)
What set does he rep????

>>280360111
>>280360188
The fact that Togashi started attention whoring on social media now should tell you by itself that theres been a significant change in his brain. Maybe they started him on new pain meds or something. Not sure why people are hesitant to accept the fact that Togashi has lost his touch and the succession war arc has been compromised.

>>280361959
Even if people deny it outright, they've shown what they truly believe through their behavior: no more threads, no more fantasy hatsu. Every single hxh thread reaches 50 replies and then dies.
This thread will be no different.

The minute one of the newly formed hxh detractors stop posting about how shitty the manga is currently, the thread dies.

fucking die already

>>280362025
Who?

>>280361959
>The fact that Togashi started attention whoring on social media
This is an improvement from the years of radio silence we used to get.
>Togashi has lost his touch
Sales don't really indicate that at all

>>280362265
>replying to it

>>280362265
Answer the many critiques itt before going for sales cope

>>280362356
I already did and somewhat agree with some of them anyways. There is a pacing problem but it doesn't mean Togashi went the way of Oda