Thread 280394034

>"Stop listening to anime soundtracks, they're not real music!"
>Listen to the 'real' music they recommend
>4 chord indie folk slop
Why is it always the least musically inclined that seem to hate when people listen to music from an OST? I do believe that one needs to expand their horizons when talking about the great composers of the past, but shitting on an anime soundtrack for not being 'real music' while praising shit like Radiohead is retarded. Haruhi's ED has more harmonic and structural complexity than any song from Kid A, it's retarded to be elitist while liking music that isn't even remotely better on any measurable objective level.

>>280394034 (OP)
>Stop listening to anime soundtracks, they're not real music!
Don't they know that a lot of anime OP/ED are just "real" commercial music that anime studio just buy the rights to use?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanashimi_yo_Konnichi_wa

>>280394034 (OP)
that's just how normies work, and it applies far and wide, not just limited to music

>>280394034 (OP)
>>"Stop listening to anime soundtracks, they're not real music!"
okay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgs9VbcBwg0

>>280394034 (OP)
I love how this thread could've been posted over 15 years ago.

>>280394160
and it will stay the same 15 years later

>>280394133
That is what I love about JPOP compared to pop music of literally any other country, even as one of those fags who listens to Classical music. There is actual shit going on that makes it interesting to listen to. You haven't experienced the entire harmonic journey of the song in the first 4 bars. It's not anything mighty complex, but it's also not braindead. It's just right

I bet you can't even appreciate this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbVHTZ6nBWk

Anyway,you sound insecure in you tastes,just like what you like and ignore the rest.

But radiohead is anime music
https://youtu.be/AYyCkM5Bxkg?si=0GucOCJXh1dObJs5

>>280394086
Of course they don't

>>280394034 (OP)
Good thing I don't care what normalfags think. They can stick to their shitty beatbox rap.

>>280394298
>It's not anything mighty complex,
well do i have some more nanahira for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX4WF75NKOk

>>280394034 (OP)
Get them to listen to… anime soundtracks from hipster bands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qknDI1k39Ic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dd7eVweB2U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSupYK20_Cs

>>280394865
grasses objectively SUCKS

>>280394034 (OP)
>>4 chord indie folk slop
>D minor -> A minor -> E Major -> C Major
It's all so tiresome

>>280394034 (OP)
They had a point…
This is so embarrassing
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/csmzPCk_3nk

>>280394990
>shorts
get out normalfaggot

>>280395046
Here you go FAGGOT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-0lSiV-H7k

>>280394034 (OP)
>>Listen to the 'real' music they recommend
>>4 chord indie folk slop
I clearly told you to listen free-form jazz

>>280395069
>I clearly told you to listen free-form jazz
>2-5-1 ad infinitum
It's all so tiresome

Anison enjoyers must NOT let ourselves get confused with the autists who recreatonally listen to the musical cue from when MC walks in on the heroine undressing and sees her embarrassing panties

>>280394034 (OP)
>Haruhi ost better than...
Lmao at least try to disguise your bait, have a (You)

>>280395069
Literally the worst form of jazz

>>280395227
It's literally true, though. Hare Hare Yukai has more harmonic complexity than any song from Kid A, you can verify it if you like. This is just objective fact.

The most individual chords a single song on Kid A has is about 14, and these songs still generally take place within one diatonic key. Hare Hare Yukai has 30 individual chords and it modulates to another key for the chorus.

I specifically said "harmonic complexity" because you can objectively measure that, and in this case it is objective fact that Radiohead is musically less complex than the haruhi soundtrack

given that we're having a music thread on /a/, i'd like to take this opportunity to anounce that Natsuki Karin is THE BEST OF ALL TIME

OF ALL TIME

>>280394034 (OP)
Show them this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJMOTbaVh44

Are there anime soundtracks that sound like Ishikawa Chu's stuff?

>muh complexity
anyone got that old "beethoven vs pre-beethoven music" copypasta from /mu/?

>>280395556
Okay? Stop taking /mu/'s opinion on music seriously. Hairy Hairy Yucky ain't got nothing on the real heavy hitters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ClCaPmAA7s

>>280394034 (OP)
>Trying to measure art by complexity and measurable qualities
Lmao did a /mu/ bait thread escape to /a/
https://youtu.be/xFKREVYvLck?si=0zPoTRnu6pL5VQcG

>>280395980
>Posts a song that still uses less individual chords than Hare Hare Yukai
KEK

>>280395980
>tool

>>280396068
You can't convince this guy. There's music that's mostly vibes then there's "music", which is rich and complex. If you like the first type you usually don't like the second, and vice versa.

>>280396068
sorry wrong video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8H-67ILaqc

>>280395998
There is such a thing as art being too simple to be meaningful. Ironically your own image proves that point. You can't make a meaningful painting with only 4 lines, postmodernists have tried for a century and failed to make a single work of art that captivates anyone but an extremely pretentious crowd. In the case of music, the 4 chord structure of most western popular music is restrictive and based around the capitalistic goal of capturing ones attention on the radio. It's the musical equivalent of a tiktok video, and I do not believe anyone would genuinely call a tiktok video a work of art. You might be able to get something out of the lyrics, but that is poetry, not music.

You need to have a minimum level of complexity to express any real emotion to the audience, this is not /mu/bait, this is just common sense that only pretentious postmodernists would try to argue against

>>280395593
Good
>>280395980
Mid
>>280395067
Shit

>>280394034 (OP)
Every japenese songs has the same chord progressions, tho : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_road_progression

>>280396297
Why put rich and complex music in quotations? If anything, the former should be as that is based around lyrical content rather than the music itself and if music is not the primary focus, is it really music?

>>280396411
And this chord progression is far more complex and expressive than I–V–vi–IV

>>280396418
music is a form of artistic expression and technical showboating at the expense of making a statement misses the point
it's how Jeff Beck is a "musician's musician" and Eric Clapton is a multi-platinum cultural icon

>>280396411
>Every
This is not true and you're a retarded fag who should kys asap

>>280396560
>music is a form of artistic expression
Yes
>and technical showboating at the expense of making a statement misses the point
Utilizing more than 4 chords is not "technical showboating" you braindead faggot, you have no understanding of music or art. Stop talking as if you do

Don't fall for it!
Do not succumb to the temptations of shit flinging within a music thread!

>>280395556
Harmonic complexity isn't a signifier of quality. HHY is convential Jpop doodoo

>>280396638
Somehow, the shitflinging in this thread is weebs saying that WESTERN music is better

>>280396418
Normies (at least where I live) are only interested in music they can bounce to riding in a car. I put the second type in quotations because they're not interested in listening to it. Actually, anything that has actual instruments in it is automatically too complex for their ears.

>>280394034 (OP)
I don't get this anymore because I hung around death metal cliques for too long.

>>280396678
And my argument was for it being "real music". I compared it to Radiohead which these people would call "real music". If it's above "real music" on a technical level, surely it's fair to assume that it's as much music as what they proclaim is real music?

>>280396365
Looks like it did escape confinement
https://youtu.be/67ttc7i4Nu8?si=zykWT1zrVfwd81zY

>>280396560
>it's how Jeff Beck is a "musician's musician" and Eric Clapton is a multi-platinum cultural icon
Being a popstar is not an indicator of being a good artist, it's the opposite. You're a genuine NPC

>>280396848
>Clapton
>popstar
Can you truly be considered a popstar if you don't perform on stage wearing a sequined leotard not wearing any pants?

>>280396899
Yes, retard.

>>280396917
then somebody tell Taylor to put pants on

>>280394284
Yeah, it feels somewhat comforting. Elitism in music is timeless. I miss my basic bitch Radiohead days.

>>280396456
yeah can't believe we even have to argue I V _ IV is the music equivalent of the generic mass produced shitty tiktok shorts in the year of 2025

>>280394034 (OP)
>>280394298
Elfen Lied has the most religious music. One of all time's greatest anime classic you have to hear it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFnazAsMOQI

>>280397302
pig-latin cringe got nothing on the true song of pure christian maidens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP-KqpT5emU

>>280397406
I can enjoy and pull them both up for more anons to savour their ears with than dragging one down like a crab.

>>280394034 (OP)
I meam they're right if you're forcing them to listen with you in the car or a public/shared space. Not everyone is a weeb faggot. If they're telling you to stop listening in general then they're retarded.

>>280398810
It's my car and I decide what music I play, faggot. If you don't like it, drive your drunk ass home yourself

>>280398939
Miserable way to live your life and treat your friends. Grow up.

>>280399183
>Grow up and play the music that I want you to play in your car
Get in your own car. I don't bitch and moan at your music.

>>280399227
>I don't bitch and moan
that's what you're doing right now

>>280394034 (OP)
ugly face

>>280394886
FUCK YOU

>>280396068
>muh chord complexity
fucking wannabe

>>280402992
You can't be elitist about music if it's simpler than a song by Toto. This guy was elitist about Tool, hence he is allowed to be called retarded for it.

>>280394034 (OP)
>>"Stop listening to anime soundtracks, they're not real music!"
says who???

>>280402992
Projection

>>280403118
I can agree with that, but I think you're both dumb for different reasons

>>280403168
/mu/tards

>>280403225
closeted /a/fags

>>280403220
>No elaboration
you're gay

>>280394034 (OP)
For me it's simple - rock, rap are done better by west, pop and just melodies are done better by japs

>>280395593
are shows inversely proportional to how good their OPs are?

>>280398713
elfen lied?

pop >:(
jay pop :O

>>280399227
>just releasing your full power level
>not djing for the maximum enjoyment of your companions
NGMI
https://youtu.be/DvNVdo8Tchw?si=BlluXfjLZXWPmRXZ
https://youtu.be/7wa_0XxN8xM?si=PaCRrRLB3Qrfx6kM

>>280394431
A shame the author didn't like the adaptation and we didn't get more.

>>280407790
this but unironically

I like Susumu Hirasawa, personally.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwu6YmLEBj8

>>280396560
>guitarslop
>good
grow up, you're not impressing anyone by aping your dad

for me, it's YMO, the most influential band of the past 50 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuLTIAMr2hg

>>280396411
it's a kino chord progression regardless which location it's from

>>280394298
early western pop of the 70s and 80s was still kino

>>280394298
literally what the fuck are you talking about

>>280394298
how do you feel about the claim that snes jrpg soundtracks mog classical composers?
i found this on /mu/ at some point

>>280413270
>i found this on /mu/ at some point
why would you believe literally anything these so-called "people" say?

>>280405698
elfen lied and people died

>>280405698
That's the anime I posted yes

>>280412877
Hirasawa is cheating

>>280394086
looks like a jr idol cover

>>280394034 (OP)
i refuse

>>280394034 (OP)
lol