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>>280398945how did he know
>>280398945Does this author not know how to draw an empty glass? It still looks full.
>>280398860YOU SAW HIM YESTERDAY.
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>>280399099maybe its a joke
>>280398985Why are you calling him Uncle.
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>>280399187>Cubari/Imgur linkhttps://cubari.moe/read/imgur/I7qiBn2/1/1/
https://imgur.com/a/I7qiBn2
https://mega.nz/file/ZKVQlAaC#s4w6fFB6GsTSOatuRyuhX9dbp4vE4KSacf0F6Seqse8
>>280398602oh, its like that huh
>>280398602WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN HAPPILY EVER AFTER
YOU ARE A FUCKING ILLUMINATI TERRORIST DEATH CULT
YOU BOMBED ITALY
WHAT THE FUCK IS EVEN HAPPENING ANYMORE
>>280399629Italy became stronger thanks to the "experience of defeat".
>>280399629Italy was secretly all evil Wu agents wearing contacts
>>280399136He and Koga got married offscreen.
>>280398985>>280399028>>280399066Thereโs no missing pages between the โwho are youโ?
They just leave with him?
>>280399146So huh... the Tiger is just Nicolas the french schizo?
>>280398860>long time no seeThey were just playing videogames yesterday
>Has some schizo breakdown
>Downgrades his outfit
Why
>literally erased from existence
>Tiger persona is the same goofy nigga
KILL SANDRO
>>280398602I mean, this was always a non-threat since it's way too big for Sandro to ever allow it to be executed, making it kind of hollow. But cancelling it altogether on a dime is just... where is the threat remaining in the series supposed to be now, exactly? Even the Tiger doesn't seem like he's going to be a big threat since he's still just chilling with everyone. Maybe he's more committed to taking Ohma's body? But he's just kind of chilling with Ohma and Ryuki at the moment. Idk what Sandro is thinking anymore, you can't just continue to have random events happen without any stakes.
>>28039908I read somewhere that AI can't draw reduced liquid in a beer glass
>guys who noticed something off with Shen
Niko
Joji
>guys who don't because they're fucking retarded
Ohma
Ryuki
>>280400199Don't forget Yan, who could tell just from hearing his voice over the phone
I guess that's what happens when you tardwrangle the guy for years
>>280400199Maybe it has something to do with the fact that they are clones
>>280399089Its the foam dripping down from each chug
>>280400199Yan did too from the voice alone. I can kinda excuse Ryuki but Ohma shouldn't be that retarded.
>>280398669>even more heckin wholesome SoLThe idea of crowdfunding a yakuza hit on this faggot only looks more tempting each week.
>>280398602Holy fucking WHOLESOME, now they are HEROES unlike that unpredictable SCUM Luohan
>>280398602So what the fuck even is the purpose of anything in this manga anymore then.
For all the retardation in the manga there is, "if you kill our main honchos, we will blow up the world" is a reasonable enough shrug to justify stuff happening (just try not to think too hard about the logistics of how this came to be our how it's gonna go down at least).
But now that they effectively eliminated this threat, what's stopping them from just dropping an entire artillery barrage or company of tacticool niggas to finish off Shen now? Like sure the superhumans in the manga apparently can shrug off low caliber bullets and somehow win against entire squads of armed men, but I don't think the manga has become so retarded that one man can appparently faggotsbane away ordinance that can delete entire city blocks.
>>280400423Sandwich seems to mock anyone who actually is intellectually or emotionally invested in this manga. This thing with the nukes no longer being a problem with just the wave of a wand is just the latest example of this.
>>280399187What is the point of this? Didn't we JUST get a Ryuki humiliation ritual from Raian? Why would he possibly think this will go better for him?
And of course precious princess Ohma gets to sit it out on the sidelines, never put in a situation where he could possibly get humiliated or badly hurt. What the fuck is going on, is this just Sandro's way of venting about how he regrets ever creating Ryuki instead of bringing Ohma back from the start?
>>280399187My goodness. So get Ohma running a gauntlet twice in a row, a hackneyed tournament full of losers to elevate Agito, Raian learning the way of the imbalanced sword, Luohan and Tiger doing non-interactive VR training, Koga and Ryuki learning to fight dirty (?) and now we're back to Ohma and Ryuki. JUST GET TO THE TOURNAMENT ALREADY
... Oh and Wakatsuki learned how to jab too
>the Dumberu-spamming faggot when this chapter released
>>280400199Add GODga to the top pile, soon.
>>280398602Kengan Omega is just chapter-by-chapter slice-of-life.
>>280400498>Now that KvP is over Edward will...>oops he's dead>Since Kegan won Hayami will finally...>kidding :P he's dead :)>...turns out Gaoh Mukuku is alive and...>byeeeee :)>..b-but at least Luhon and Tiger Ni...:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
This manga is completely pointless.
>>280400781Heh, at least there's still Gilb...
I used to make fun of the guy that wrote fanfics where his self insert just beat up every Kengan character that ever slighted him
but I'm starting to think we need that guy
>Luhon is absent
>no replays
kek, "our" "protagonist" will "return"
>>280399089AI can't do empty glass, anon
>>280398815>black bubblesDoes that mean nu-shen is a jobber?
>>280400949We all wish. The sooner the better.
>>280400872Grim that I agree with you.
I dont know whats going on anymore
>>280398602>oh right we're doing tournament arc as finale, no need to delve on political stuff
>>280399146Has he...never fought anyone? This is the first time he's come out?
>>280398709AI generated extras.
>>280400998Sandwich doesn't either. He's making shit up as he goes along. I doubt he even has any idea what next week's chapter is going to be about. He'll think about it 5 minutes before his manuscript deadline in a few days.
>>280399187My HERO RYUKI will END THIS NOW
>>280400423Sandro does not care about the plot anymore. He was interested at first, but he's fallen out of love with it. He wants matches that don't have a whole lot of baggage and he wants SoL, you can say he wants Kengan to be like Baki in that regard. Every recent decision has been leading up to that. He introduced the scapegoat Luohan to absolve Shen of his sins, he got rid of the nukes, he buckbroke Niko so people aren't interested in him anymore, the stakes could not be lower, old plotlines are brought up to be immediately closed, Gilbert's practically in the grave already, etc.
One might go as far as to say the plot only ever existed to introduce Shen, Sandro's favorite character ever. The plot is now pointless so he's getting rid of it.
>>280398602The threat of nukes never mattered, the Kengan Association knew about Luohan's betrayal but never was it once implied that they would try to skirt the Worms by trying to take advantage of this and ally with Luohan
It only "seemed" like an issue because the Worms were retarded enough to give such level of control over to a guy who hates their Leader despite there being a handful of other clones who could've been doing what Luohan was assigned for. So really the Worms dismantling the nukes is a nothing moment because meta-narratively speaking the nukes never existed at all
>>280398783Does it? You figured out how to not age by not breathing.
>>280401483>you can say he wants Kengan to be like Baki in that regardShut the fuck up. Sandro doesn't even want fights, he offscreens or interrupts them whenever he can't avoid them. He simply tries to write the minimum amount of fights he can get away with in a fighting manga.
>>280398602I can't believe that HEINOUS VILLAIN Luohan has done this
>>280399106when was the last time air rending landed?
>>280401867Probably Kokurou.
More like Air Surrendering.
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>>280401867Koga landed it on Raian recently, Setsuna landed it on Tiger
Last time Ryuki landed it is, uh, Chiba in berserker bowl I think
>>280402032So why is Raian Sandroโs princess
Has to be one of the grimmest chapters we've had in a long time. Any excitement from Luohan instantly wiped clean with a classic Sandro mini timeskip. Any hope of the Tiger being the villain people are yearning for dashed in mere pages.
>>280402086>So why is Raian Sandroโs princess
What if "I" told "you" there were... two "connectors"?
>>280398815>But I'm going off on a tangent aren't I
>>280398815I hate myself for making that comparison, but there's something that reminds me of Usogui[/spoiler[ about that top panel...
>>280399256That's probably Sandro hiding behind an alt account
>>280399187>jobber chargeGodspeed.
Is Shen's outfit supposed to be a reference to something? It's like in the back of my head, but I can't quite scratch it...
>>280398746He wore the evil martial arts uncle glasses in the iteration that killed Mukaku's temple as well, I guess he likes them.
>>280402226>"Sir", a "second" connector just "hit" the "Leaning Tower"
>>280398860>wasting an entire page on a stupid greeting>instead of actually writing more interactions/dialogue
>>280398602you are now aware that sandro is a genius mangaka and /a/ has never been able to predict his moves
>>280399187Ryuki knows that Shen is a literal demigod that towers over all of them.
>"I''m ending the fight here and now!"Literally WHAT can he mean by this other than surrendering. He has to know he cannot beat Shen.
>>280402898He's betting it all on that move.
>>280402648Sandwich has a quota of 16-17 pages to fill every week. He writes each chapter the same way some lazy highschool kid crams a 500 word essay the night before it's due. He basically just fills it with fluff the same way the student does to reach that 500 word count.
>>280402928It's over for Tiger
>>280398602WHAT THE FUCK ARE EVEN STAKES ANY MORE IN THIS MANGA?
Genuinely, unironically shocked at Sandro's ability to disappoint me. You guys often use it as a joke, but he is ALWAYS delivering something worse and worse every month. Im starting to think that this is a cruel mockery. He is laughing at us.
>>280402939Couldn't have said it better. Only difference is that at least in your example no teacher would actually gobble up that garbage.
>>280399869Sandro forgot to submit that page
>>280403005It's how Sandro likes them, rare
>>280403035That's exactly what I said earlier
>>280400498.
The man does shit like this as a way of just DARING us to keep caring about the manga.
He's like "Haha, you're actually invested in this plot point or villain? Fuck you. I'm gonna kill this plot point or villain just like that! LOL!"
>>280400859>Raian and Gilbert have a draw offscreen and all the Kure/Wu branches have re-merged in some timeskip
>>280399146>so this is what subversion feels like
>>280398602Bless you Sandro.
>>280402898>>280402928Just one well timed throw...
>>280403583He's going for faggotsbane
Stop complaining.
Sandro might be bad, but it can always get worse. Pic related
>>280402737He kind of is in a twisted way. Nobody expects him to lower the bar this constantly. If you were to tell me a few hours ago that Sandro would handwave away the whole threat of nukes in the same offhand and retarded way he did on page 2 of this week's chapter, I would not have believed you, even as someone who thinks that Sandro is a clown. Even I would never expect Sandro to stoop that low.
>>280403733random fanfiction isn't good? hold the phone
>>280403733>It can always get worseSo like every week from now on?
>>280403787It goes beyond that
You've been conditioned to read Sandro's 3/10, but you've never read a -5/10 work
>>280403733>Goku instantly jobbingFunny!
>>280403733I bet even this DBZ fanfiction's author remembers what he wrote 10 chapters ago. Plus he probably isn't getting paid. Two reasons it's still superior to sandroslop.
>>280403815>Sandro's 3/10No way. This idiot wouldn't pass a children's writing class.
>>280398860Ryuki lookin zesty
>>280398602Has there ever been a manga on this level of subversion before?
>>280404410There's probably an SZS gag where massive world ending problems just solves by itself and people needn't worry.
>>280401248The way Shen talked about him to Kazzy made it sound like Tiger has never been in control of the body.
Man fuck this. I'm going back to Genshin. At least Fat Xiao knows how to write characters unlike Sandro
>>280399734By that logic they should be the strongest nation in the world by now...
>>280400423Oh yeah, when i read fiction i always compare it to "but how does the logistics, finances, employment and economics work in real life?"
You retards are the kind of idiots who eat up ASoIaF because the fatass writing it thought "but what about the tax policies?"
>>280402737I mean, you're not wrong. But a genius going down to the level of retarded hobo, unexpected as it is, isn't automatically good because people couldn't predict it.
I really wonder why there's such a huge change between Ashura and Omega. My guess he actually spent time plotting Ashura out, while Omega is just riding on the wave week by week after he hit his cool moment at chapter 50.
>>280398594 (OP)Did I miss a chapter? Wasn't the last chapter in the middle of a fight?
>>280405275When you read black lagoon, jormundgandr and other manga set in current times, did you ever ask "But how can they get away with all this?".
Trick question, you don't really read manga except popular shit that has fast threads.
>>280405040To be fair hoyoverse writing does the same mistakes as sandro though to a smaller extent
>hype that amounts to nothing>epic cliffhangers that lead into nothing>introduces cool-looking characters then ruins their potential>lore and story is written on the goWhy is writing so hard
I thought anons were smarter than this... Deactivating nukes is a brilliant move which shows the true danger of Tiger Wulong and his complete mastery over meta principles of this manga. You all have seen what happens to weapon wielders who use knives or guns. Now what is the apex of weapons? You've got that right.
Tiger Wulong is manipulating the metagame on a level never seen before and I tremble at the power worm has just attained, by getting rid of them.
Sandro is reading these threads you know? He's fluent in English. And these threads is making him very sad and having him cry a lot from stress.
Are you proud of yourselves? Making an old man cry for goods you never paid for??
>>280405282>he actually spent time plotting Ashura out>nothing but a big tournament>garbage "coup" by Hayami>tons of mystery boxes conveniently passed to OmegaThe bitter truth is that Ashura and Omega are exactly the same. It's always been a downward slope, from Ohma changing from a cocky savage to an autistic virgin, to the faggy doctor being able to ressucitate himself on command.
>>280405438I still don't know who threw that grenade.
>>280405419Because live service games, as with serialized manga is intended to last "as long as possible".
The difference is that hoyo has many writers, so they hit "kino writing" moments far more frequently than a single man do, and also has managers actually reading their scripts and putting their foot down when it's shit, unlike sandro.
I'm not sure if Sandro can even keep his own world building straight anymore since there's nobody to correct him when he veneers off his foundation.
I hate to give credit to managers, but i'm pretty sure his ashura manager is a part of why ashura was so great.
>>280405472The difference is that Ashura, despite some weird sideplots delivered on the premise very well overall. Yes, probably because it was a self contained tournament that in-lore went for what, 3 days if i recall right? Giving characters ample of time to develop and have motivations.
Now we're suddenly going "global scale" and everyone gets at most 1 chapter's worth of development before a timeskip makes it all pointless as new random characters get introduced to job now or later.
>>280405381>Trick question, you don't really read manga except popular shit that has fast threads.You're so pathetic. A little faggot slurper, assblasted that people rightly shit on a professional author so lazy and uninvolved he has no qualms dropping major plot points on a moment's whim. No I don't read popular shit nor do I bother posting in fast threads. I mainly read 3 kinds of manga: martial arts, cars, and sometimes office worker stories, especially if they're partly about food. Here's a page from the other series I follow week to week, you disgusting subhuman. You're the equivalent of a lapdog pretending to be an attack hound.
>>280405636>I'm not sure if Sandro can even keep his own world building straight anymoreIt's been lost years ago, the fact that this manga is still going is bizarre. "Why" are we reading this?
>>280399187the jobberiest words
>>280405776I agree on the smaller scale plot being easier for sandro's pea brain. I'd add that the editor made the fights good, and that is the other main difference.
>>280405636>I'm not sure if Sandro can even keep his own world building straight anymoreMate he couldn't keep it straight for two consecutive Agito fights.
>>280405333Comikeks servers "jobbed" last week, here's the chapter
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/280179222/
>>280405835>Chimp out at the dumbest shit>Get told that what you're chimping out is at is the dumbest thing>Go into a full assblasted modeRetard, you literally asked "(just try not to think too hard about the logistics of how this came to be our how it's gonna go down at least)." then got this riled up when you're told you're dumb for comparing fiction having hair assassins and bendable skeleton mass murderers with real life
>>280405976My first answer to your bootlicking ass was that Yamashita reaction pic, for jumping at that anon's throat when he was funnily pointing out just how retarded that whole world-scale plot was.
You haven't even made a single argument, you've only shat yourself seething and accusing that anon of being a GoT fan, and me of being a FotM idiot. No one asked Sandro to try writing a plot this big and complex, and yes of course people look for realism and coherence in realistic settings.
>>280398602now that our HERO Shen has successfully saved the world, we can finally turn our attention to defeating that SNIVELING MISCREANT Luohan
>>280399187Ryukibros... not again...
>>280398815>guy from a century+ ago is really impressed by wristwatchesthis is actually a cool bit of characterization
too bad this is omega
Is the story also AI generated? This is just gibberish, plotlines that have been going for hundreds of chapters just get randomly dropped, all the characters are incredibly bland and samey and just when you think Sandro gave up and wants to end the manga there is some new retarded filler that goes nowhere. It really feels like they feed a summary of the last couple of chapters to an AI and ask it to continue the story.
But what happened to Akoya, Masaki and Xia Ji?
>>280406336Your retort was
>how dare you shit on sandro-sama you must be either a fan of GoT or someone who only reads popular shit!!!!If you can't understand that Inaba or the K*re existing doesn't mean that suddenly the entire setting shifted to fantasy, and that we still expect the governments to function like they should, then you're the problem. Obviously though we both know you're just a bad faith slurper, ready to write anything to defend this shit.
>>280405636>>280405419This isn't really about Kengan, but to be honest I feel like the issue is that people doing the entertainment writing these days are just idea guys that shouldn't be doing actual writing. So everything turns into a big moment after a big moment ADHD music video nonsense.
>>280406495Story by ChatGPT.
Art by Stable Diffusion.
>>280400245>>280400313Yan could have understood it from the contents of the discourse, it was Shen's voice but talking about that was uncharacteristic of him so something was off.
>>280398746This guy insists upon himself so much. He's such a poser. Like those guys with unwashed mullets and pedo staches
>>280405438Consider also the meaning of stakes in a manga.
The moment there's stake to (You) winning, it's likely you have to lose. This is exponentially increasing based on the level of stakes.
If losing means the end of the manga/setting/MC etc, you're done. Cooked. Well done even.
>>280405419It's just your perspective of time. Most consumers want payoffs right away, but hoyo (at least in terms of genshin) plays the long game to edge people endlessly then drop the big bomb (and proceed to create new implications for people to edge for)
Sandro doesn't do that. He straight up forget what or why he was edging people, and just write some random shit once he remembered he did write that plotline a few months ago, letting the players feel a poor and bad orgasm that flutters into nothing instead of something amazing. Hoyo works in years long buildup, Sandro works in weeks and months buildup (when he halfway remembers and decide to do another direction)
I'm still trying to comprehend what made the "tiger" come out and why the fuck does "tiger" seem so wholesome chungus as well? I thought his gimmick would be being a murderhobo?
>>280406867Don't worry about it.
>>280406867>why the fuck does "tiger" seem so wholesome chungus as well?That's just you being media illiterate
>>280398602It feels like Sandro is doing the exact opposite of what you're supposed to do when writing a story...
>>280406909Sorry, I had to make my ability to read this series go limp
>>280406867He's actually more the more wholesome one since Shen wanted to kill /ourguy/Luohan and he just let him be.
>>280406867>what made the "tiger" come outMaybe Luohan used the same technique that Nikek used to force Ohma's Advance.
>why the fuck does "tiger" seem so wholesome chungus as wellI think the Tiger's supposed to have some bargain bin version of Edward's character. I think this little shopping session was supposed to be like Ed's beef rant. Or like Nikek's wine.
>>280406985Only an evil bastard will spare the Source of all Evil
>>280398602It's impressive how Sandro can make the payoff of every single plot point underwhelming
Have "we" been subverted?
>>280407527Nah it was about as "gay" as "we" expected.
>>280400357Does it feel good to be this edgy?
>>280398639>Turns out he could've resolved this anytime he wanted to>He came in and took care of it in an instantI don't think I'm understanding this correctly. What the fuck did Tiger actually do? Take care of Luohan? Is that what Dragon was dragging his feet over? But wasn't it Tiger that let Luohan live? I'm really confused.
>>280399146Goddamnit, so instead of being Evil Wulong, he's just trendy Wulong. That kinda sucks.
>>280399187I know he's actually schizo but is Ryuki retarded as well? Like, how many in universe days has it been since Raian beat his ass thoroughly?
>>280398602This is so fucking funny man, what are you saying Shen could have solved the main conflict of this manga with one phone call this whole time and he was just too lazy to do it
>>280406867Which makes Tiger Niko fucking pissing his pants in pure terror even more fucking embarrassing.
>>280398746Tiger is constantly talking to Dragon in his mind, the reverse of which we've never really seen. Did Tiger just not have anything to say before or was Dragon just ignoring him for a hundred years?
He's going to kill Ryuki here.
>>280405079That means Italy became too strong to win.
>>280398602I guess that PIECE OF SHIT Luohan who'll do VILLAIN STUFF and who's a MEAN BASTARD would try to keep the weapons for himself, like a BASTARD he is.
>>280408379I guess he just doesn't talk much when he's in the back seat. That or Dragon is the less autistic one and just doesn't talk out loud to himself like a sperg but talks to Tiger in his head.
>>280398746>>280398709>>280398783>>280398815>Doesn't even have normal people reacting to his schizo rambling as he goes about in publicTruly "this" "manga" subverts even the most basic of "expectations"
>>280399187Is this building up to Tiger seriously injuring Ryuki because he doesn't know his own strength / cares more about having fun than the safety of his opponent? Or is this just going to be more pointless filler?
>>280408594>building up to something>kengan omega>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>280408594>Or is this just going to be more pointless filler?Were you just trying to convince yourself or do you truly believe there could be any other option?
Ryuki is going do a shit ton of crazy moves and Ohma is gonna go "hmm he's really improved he might even be awesome now" and then it'll cut to the Tiger just standing there without a care in the world and both Ryuki and Ohma will go "?!?!?!?!?".
>>280408359I despearetly want to believe Tiger Niko is just pretending to be retarded but it's getting harder and harder, he really has been neutered, only way to save him is to make him become schizo and become "Dragon Niko"
>>280408728Tiger Wulong did leave Luohan alive so I guess they'll just go back to ther RTX5080 or whatever the fuck and "download" the rest of the memories and get a power up. Will that powerup make them any cooler/threatening? I wholeheartedly believe 'no'.
I can only imagine Sandro had a nightmare about Tiger Niko hurting his precious Ohma and then he woke up and decided to completely neutralise Tiger Niko's threat.
Like, at this point nothing is off the table.
>>280408594nigger we just got off the five nights at Cohma's, the main plot has just been taken out back and shot and you're really wonder if this is filler or not?
>>280399187He's ending this fight in under 10 seconds!
>>280408594I am pretty sure that whole slice of life segment people are complaining about is a set up to show how dangerous he can be. I doubt he'd seriously hurt Ryuki or anyone, I imagine somebody will break up the fight, possibly Joji, but I'm talking about Sandro's intent. I doubt he'd become a villain the likes of Luohan, but I do think the plan is to show he's not as nice as Shengus.
How can Tiger be evil if he immediately decommissioned all the nukes the nanosecond he got put in control
If anything Louhan is evil for being able to do that and refusing to despite it endangering his "friends"
>>280404399I was wondering if I was crazy thinking that.
Why did Shen back down at the threat of nukes and give Luohan the PDF, when he could have them all neutralized on a whim?
>>280409841Don't worry about it.
Does anon still post the Japanese chapter comments? Would love to see them for this one.
>>280409841All Tiger's plan.
So they are just going to ignore Shen saying "so this is what a fight feels like" in front of their faces?
It's genuinely difficult to believe the same writer for Asura is writing Omega, the writing quality is so big not even brain damage could explain what happened.
>>280398602At least Hinaโs are safe
>>280398746What a minute, Iโve seen this concept before, for a certain rat dragon.
>>280410722It's just a shittier version of Aikidoman's fit.
>>280398860These people need jobs
God this manga is so dumb. I can't wait to see what retarded nonsense he pulls out in Kengan Goes America.
>>280399187Why are they fighting on the roof?
Oh ...
>>280408131He dealt with the Death Dealer nuke nonsense.
So is Tiger supposed to be evil or does he just have a different personality?
>>280411470Who fucking knows. Yan shat his pants the moment he heard his voice but it sems he's the same person
>>280411470He is a fightfreak
>>280411470With the way Shen's been written, it's always felt like Tiger was going to be a big nothingburger. The biggest red flag was how quickly Shen gave up on the brain surgery on the condition he loses the Kengan match. If Tiger was really a dick, he'd never agree to that shit, he'd be very desperate to be his own man. Shen was always too chill for Tiger to be evil.
>>280411110But that seemingly was just like a phone call? The way Yan talks about it and the way that panel is set up, it makes it seem like it was some sort of monumental task. Saying he took care of it in an instant as if it was difficult at all?
>>280412786There was a short time skip in between it seems.
He called Yan, who set up the meeting with DDs, and then he went there and they all sucked his cock and disarmed the nukes.
Dragon for some reason didn't want to do this despite being able to, apparently.
>>280410955Ohma at least got a sugarmommy, the other 2 are professional bums i gues
>>280400036Isn't he dead already? I actually can't remember kek
>>280412855Oh. Maybe it's just me but I didn't get the impression that there was any sort of short time skip at all. Seemed like he rang the DDs first, took everything offline, then called Yan and just let him know. To me it looked like Tiger had already done the """"hard"""" work and was just informing Yan of the situation. Which also makes Fu's reaction and the random ass "Yeah bro let me guess" bollocks actually makes sense. I guess Yan could have meant that talking to the DD and actually getting the job done was probably a tense phone call but still.
>>280402429Usogui's time twist getting set up in the first meeting of the arc where the general rules for the LARP island part of the final arc was kino.
>>280403733QRD on what's going on? I stopped reading Multiverse like 15 years ago kek
>>280398602It's actually crazy how Tiger's personality is so much more sensible than Shen's that he said "fuck it" and decided to tie up multiple plot holes and dangling threads in a single phone call. His behavior in how he approaches the business involving his clone sons and his death cult followers also fits way better. He acts like Shen really ought to have throughout the whole manga. It's almost like goofy uncle Dragon Shen's mere presence derailed the manga into absolute nonsense territory with a meandering excuse for a plot and the moment Tiger assumes control things begin to get sorted.
That's not to say the manga has improved it all, but it's just wild that the plot itself just woke up from a coma and decided it was time to actually DO something the moment he arrived.
>>280413238They hyped up Goku for the final fight of the tournament. As a reminder, Goku did nothing for 2500~ page, he got.... 3 fights top, one being good and the others mediocre at best.
So Goku fights the evil OC donut steal who oneshots everyone the moment they start the fight in his NotUI form... and he gets instakilled while talking like a retard. Whole fight lasted 4 pages
17 years of tournament and this is the treatment Goku gets for the last fight :^)
>>280411470At most I think that he'll just take the fight more seriously?
>>280413022Maybe Ryuki still does Kengan matches. The prize money is probably pretty hefty and a single fight might pay his way for a few months at a time depending on the stakes.
Joji's an instructor for Rokushinkai and likely makes a modest salary.
>>280410955I couldn't respect them, knowing that they're wage slaves.
>>280413278Dragon Shen caused everyone to start their own training arc just by showing up. And it's thanks to him that we got to see Mukaku in action.
>>280413865>And it's thanks to him that we got to see Mukaku in actionMore like it's his fault we had to see him in action.
>>280413865>And it's thanks to him that we got to see Mukaku in action.Is that really something to be thankful about really?
>>280402539>Jobber chargeThat's a new one. Anyone notice this before? Characters do tend to job a lot whenevr they're depicted charging at a stationary person.
>>280413865A bunch of pointless training arcs that actually made it feel like characters were rubberbanding back and forth in progression. Koga and Ryuki regressed and had to relearn the basics, Agito unlocked the ability to punch with both hands, the RCT happened, Waka only recently learned that Blast Core was overkill and using a smaller, faster version was more efficient and took better advantage of his strengths, Five Fights at Ohma's was possibly the most drab arc in the entire manga because it existed to set Ohma on the path to Principles while dunking on the newbies again, and Raian disappeared only to come back with a funny sword and largely the same attitude.
Dragon Shen sent us on a twisting path of filler that amounted to nothing. At least Tiger is forcing the issue and literally calling off some of the bullshit in favor of just fighting people for once.
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>>280413365Oh but you know who didn't get the offscreen treatment? KURE RAIA-I mean Majin Bra!
>>280414241Raian is 100 times better than Bra lol
I'm seeing a friend go through Baki and he said that Baki part 2 is kind of like a "better Kengan Omega" and I felt that was insulting. It's no doubt based on how Baki part 2 would endlessly hype up characters only for them to get onesidedly stomped and this goes on for almost 300 chapters straight of jobbers upon jobbers upon jobbers. I know there's more method to the madness there, but how would another "anon" put it? What's the difference between part 2 of Baki and Omega in their handling of constant jobbers?
>>280414008>>280414041I liked Mukaku. A strong old martial arts master with an interesting backstory and a personality more complex than the average Kengan character.
>>280414157You're being overly critical. Ohma's fights were entertaining for the most part. We got to see Joji and Kosmo's master in action for the first time. Koga and Ryuki learned what real fighting looks like, which is quite important when you remember that Wakatsuki only managed to beat Julius after he unlocked his own inner warrior. And speaking of Wakatsuki, does anyone really believe that his only progress was learning to jab? Because all those huge trees he destroyed seem to hint at something more.
>>280410355What was the curse?
>>280414401>Ohma's fights were entertaining for the most partnot really although Judo man getting one shot was pretty funny
>>280414278They're both the same brand of tryhard edgelord self insert. Except Bra has Salagir clearly wanting to fuck her, even in-universe Raian doesn't have any real friends while Bra got that whole bullshit about Vegito being supposedly being unreasonable with her after she pulled all of this shit KNOWINGLY
>>280414488Raian has the Kengan brand of morality protecting him, but in unspoken words. Sandro will rarely, if ever, go out of his way and call him a good boy. Meanwhile, Bra can cast humiliation rituals on characters she dislikes.
>>280414141Can you really blame em? Charging is the most effective way to perform a knife assassination
>>280414337>What's the difference between part 2 of Baki and Omega in their handling of constant jobbers?The sincerity
>>280414337You can't compare Baki and Kengan, they're two different beasts. Baki is basically Itagaki playing with his favorite toys while giving us his views on strength/violence/masculinity. To quote one of the latest chapters, it's about "who has the stronger body? who's more of a man?" and it's entertaining even if the fights themselves are not super interesting. Jack vs Pickle was a terrible fight for example, but Jack looked good doing those suplexes, and Pickle still came out of it looking like a monster, despite barely doing anything other than a few scratches. Kengan doesn't have that luxury because it's a normal manga with normal art and normal rules, so it needs a plot, antagonists, good fight choreography, etc.
>>280414864Jack vs Pickle was less of a fight and more of a setup for Jack's future development. He didn't even get the victory he wanted because now that Pickle learned that modern fights aren't a deathmatch to eat someone, he could just hand the win to Jack basically leaving him blueballed.
>>280415243What makes you think that Pickle learned that? He just seemed to act differently but it wasn't explained why he didn't take the fight seriously.
>>280415394I think Pickle being able to speak is a dead giveaway that he's more human now. He's been around for a while now so it's only natural civilization will rub off on him. It does come off a bit sudden but it is what it is.
>>280414433The curse was this man's existence
>>280410620He 2 people that he consulted while writing Asura. A mma/martial artist guy and someone else who helped him with the story. They left during covid, and the story immediately tanked in quality. That's why the fighting choreography was garbage compared to Asura.
>>280415965And he couldn't find any other martial arts experts in all of Japan?
>>280415620He got quite a lot of screen time compared to most fighters.
Make predictions
>Tokita Niko fights Ohma and gets neg diffed
>Luohan fights Ohma and gets neg diffed
>Koga fights nobody
>Ohma fights Shen and it's a RIDICULOUSLY HIGH ULTRA LEVEL EXCHANGE slap fight that ends with Shen winning but if "that" had happened then who knows what would have happened
>Ryuki fights nobody
>Agito fights Tiger Shen and makes him feel FEAR with his skillful DRAGON SHOT spams
The future fights are STACKED LMAOOOOOO
>>280416171They were all too green
>>280399187To be sure, a "fight" that will make Ohma vs Nitoku look "razor thin"
>>280398602So what the fuck is that unholy alliance between all the native and minority crime gangs in Japan going to do now? They'll have to go back to their shitty gang wars and other shit.
Watch as I rewrite Shen Wulong's fighting style.
His deal isn't "Principles" or some bullshit like that.
It's making zero mistakes. He knows what you'll do because he's seen it a million times before.
Boom, nuff said
>>280399146imagine if tiger is a weakling
>>280414401This isn't being overly critical. These are literally the events that were put to page. There's no sense of actual progression and it's easy to forget that we skipped over TWO YEARS of development for our protagonists only for them to still make rookie mistakes.
>Ohma's fights were entertaining for the most partDon't kid yourself. They featured Ohma challenging people to their own game and winning handily multiple times and a complete non-fight with Tokuno'o. The fights with Joji and Kuraishi were done with the understanding that there could be no conclusion because the author doesn't want to actually do anything with them, good or bad.
>Koga and Ryuki learned what real fighting looks likeThey already knew that. Ryuki has been killing people in back alleys for literal years at this point and he never pretended to fight fair. Koga was already familiar with dirty fighting and life-or-death situations as he fought to avoid being murdered. This is nothing new to them and it's a complete character regression.
>Because all those huge trees he destroyed seem to hint at something moreAnon, the whole point is that Waka doesn't need MORE power. Destroying trees doesn't mean anything because he's always been able to bust people up no problem. Blast Core was always a waste, and even if had another new move it wouldn't address his actual flaws.
>>280417060That's already included in Principles. He's learned the perfect movements and perfect angles to execute them from. He's developed them over centuries of experience and seeing everything there is to see in martial arts combat.
>Shen and Yan know Luohan despises Shen and wants him dead
>Still thinks it's a good idea to give Luohan control over a mercenary group and a bunch of NUKES out of respect for him being Shen's clone even though Yan and Shen fucking hate him
>They also have a unknown amount of other Clones who are still loyal to Shen to a T and would have done Luohans job if they were asked too
>Right in the middle of Luohan's fight with Shen, the "Tiger" takes over because of the "Dragon's" pussy-footing around and wanted to take charge
>Which was just him making a call to Yan to dismantle the nukes
>And also not kill Luohan who has proven to be a mild problem now that he has techniques that shen isn't familiar with
What a weird moment of Sandro refusing to commit to anything
>>280416258He deserves more. Akoya is way more entertaining than shit like Koga or Raian.
>>280417333I was more meaning that in the sense that his movements aren't random slaps and shit.
I'd make it less that he can just onehit everyone with said slaps and more that he can counter literally any attack you throw at him because he already knows what to do in that situation. Example
>Mukaku's Ironbreaker, here shown as assblastingly fast compared to Ohma>Wulong deflects it like Niko did the bullet and hits Mukaku in the face>Immediately follows it up by kicking Mukaku in his rearmost kneecap, bending it backwards as a result and causing him to lose his balance>Finishes him by grabbing him mid-air and choking him to deathThat kinda shit where he pulls off insane skill plays to curbstomp everyone he fights
Mostly a Daro problem ngl
>>280417432>What a weird momentYou mean "extremely common".
>Dragon, why are you letting the Worm make nukes? "We" don't need nukes for anything.
>Dragon, "we" nuked Italy? What the fuck man?
>Dragon, why do keep wailing on Luohan so much? You're going to make him resent you.
>Dragon, why are you putting Luohan in charge of the nukes? Can't you find someone better for that?
>>280399187Thanks OP
>Bombs? what bombs? There were no bombs. Stop asking about the bombs.>Schizo Shen can now have internal conversations>DUDE TIME>Joji sees all, does nothing yet again>Gaoh Style: The Same Technique Againโขhot damn what a terrible chapter, I guess the only highlight is we didn't have to see that absolute EVIL bastard Luohan again, truly he makes my blood boil
>>280419343What do you think Luohan's opinion on 'The Tiger' is?
>>280400199>badass uncle Joji, who we love and respect and is the closest friend to Shen, senses there is something wrong>We should just leave him to keep drinking and go off alone with ShenCohma truly living up to his name
Why not just go full retard and reveal that Shen is the connector of Earth and there's a connector for each planet with life in the galaxy?
>>280400420BASED Luohan hatred enjoyer
>>280405472>he actually spent time plotting Ashura outuhh no that was the editor
>>280419616He probably never gave Tiger any thought until Tiger rose to the surface and saved his life. Might be a chapter where Luohan meets Tiger to talk to get things figured out between them.
>>280409841Unreasonable question, top 5 unreasonable questions I've ever address, you just need to go limp in your brain to understand
>>280411258maximum lel, can someone please send this to Sandro
>>280399187>Ryuki jobs again!I have to wonder if Sandro had something written for this guy and just scrapped it after the Naidan fight because he's been a total bitch since then.
>>280420347We all know the original twist was him being Kiryu.
>>280416889You're not supposed to remember and point that out. Now Sandro will add an extra 5000 chapters before the Worm tournament as punishment!
>>280420140Does he even have any social media accounts? I know Daro is on Twitter.
>>280420835If he does address it, he'll spend maybe a panel or half a page mentioning how the alliance ultimately failed some time ago because of off-screen infighting or something.
>Omega on /a/
>Omega on /dbg/
>Omega everywhere
"I" have "arrived'.
>>280399187GAOH STYLE
NUT CRACKER
Now that they just lol lmao even'd away the only thing giving the bad guys actual leverage over the powers of the world away, what's stopping them from just gunning down the worms and Shen now?
What was the point of bombing Italy? What is the Worm's masterplan?
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>>280399187Does anyone -- and I mean, ANYONE, including the paypigging shills at Comikey -- actually believe there is even a 0.000001% chance that Ryuki will actually follow through on this?
>>280398602There comes a point where you actually have to wonder if an author is being malicious with his work.
Like, what? You the reader is actually getting invested in any plot point or stake I introduce? Well get fucked bitch. Shame on you for giving some semblance of a fuck to my story.
>>280422797Sandro is obviously trying to teach us Kure Style: Cope
Tiger and Dragon are too calm
Shen needs a third personality that is ultraviolet and a mass murderer
>>280422705He's going to surrender causing the fight to end immediately
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>me every Wednesday
>>280422626We really need a list of MIA characters. I feel like there's a huge chunk of the cast that's just outright vanished.
>>280422705I don't believe for a second even Ryuki would believe that.
In a way stuff like this is worse than retarded plot choices like removing the nuclear threat just like that, because that required at least SOME brain usage to arrive at the decision, this is pure "umm, let's put some generic line here, k good enough whatever".
>completely forgot it's kenganesday
almost missed it
>>280422705I fully believe in my boy, Sasuke-lite.
>>280413793what the fuck is a kengan match
She's stronger than Julius.
>>280424629>Kaolan's boxing with Inaba's footworkShe's unfathomable!
>>280398602>Here comes the "Invisible Subversion"! Like I ca-ACK
>>280400833I dropped this shit forever ago. looks like I made the right call.
>>280425529No clue, I just saw that on twitter randomly.
you now remember 2chan shitting on the kengan omega chapters that introduced the gang fight with a bunch of Wu characters
>>280425529>>280425632The tweet: https://x.com/isiyumi/status/1942957760326607079
>>280425645What did they say?
>>280425693they were mocking the epithets the wu gang members had (they all use "the X demon" format)
>>280398602SANDROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The only thing that could subvert my expectations right about now is the manga suddenly getting actual stakes
>>280422985And a fourth personality that's extremely submissive and homosexual
>>280398602Walter Cox and Colonel Sanders...never
Another personality just hit Shen Wulong
>>280398945BASED
I love this trope of true bros having a deep connection.
>>280399629Italy was a shithole anyway.
>>280422705Hey, he said he's ending the fight, not that he's gonna win.
>>280428387He's gonna do a flying dogeza and surrender.
>>280398815I really like top panel.
>>280414141Stoic standchads will never lose to charging virgins.
>>280398815>>280428656I feel like Shen would be more interesting as a character if he was more focused on his immortality project. It'd make him look like he's truly above all the other fighters, who only care about getting stronger and winning pointless fights. He was already ancient before they were even born, and will outlive them all.
>>280402429I think of some panels, "I always knew you would make it", Baku on the Helicopter, "That's too hard to understand"
>>280413168ughh you're reminding me how kino that manga is. Maybe If I read it a third time I'll finally understand Protoporos arc as I'm reading it.
>>280411258kek
I love you, keng/a/n
>>280428758At least it'd follow the plot yeah.
>>280422705I mean, the fight's going to end alright.
Was the connector who eradicated the dragon clan the dragon or the tiger
Was the connector who btfod mukakus gang the tiger or the dragon
how is the art so fucking dogshit now? it's genuinely baffling
>>280429765Quick, someone post
>aslongasitpassestheeditor.jpg
>>280429740Neither, it was their predecessor.
Remember what Shen said? He's the immune system. But he's been too busy fooling around and drinking. Now it's changed and we're going to get an immune reaction.
The theme of Kengan Omega is "Derealization"
Everything in it is designed to completely detatch you from the experience
From the frequent 4th wall breaking trope lampshades
To antagonists who appear and disappear within chapters
To filler arcs making everyone question what the plot is even supposed to be
To the artist putting in so little effort the experience feels like a surrealist dream
To the stakes being so ill defined nobody even knows where the story could ever go
It's all the ultimate test for the writer to find the ultimate shiteater, willing to put up with this writing for years and years without dropping it
This fabled shiteater will then be cloned and sold to the highest bidder, and with that money Sandwich will add another 5090 to Daro's PC
How well is Kengan doing in terms of physical sales? No way it's hitting four-digits, right? Right?
I still can't believe the Worms just joined the good guys by doing nothing. I really didn't think he would go there.
>>280431456...so does that mean Ohma and Raian are going to be condemned for killing all those Worm mooks now?
>>280420347remind me again, what did Naidan die for?
>>280431473They were Xia (bad guy)'s goons. Yan's goons (if they exist) are good goons.
>>280431473I was gonna bring up Mikazuchi vs Ornstein, but Ornstein killed himself.
>>280431746To awaken Ryuki's true "omega child" identity or something like that. Except he didn't even kill Naidan, Naidan killed himself, leaving Ryuki mildly confused and traumatized. Sandro really wasted one of the best new characters just to give Ryuki 0.01% character development.
So what's the purpose of Luohan now that Tiger is now the main antagonist? Also, it's funny that Sandro is doing the same OMNIOUS paneling with Tiger that he did with Dragon before falling in love with him and turning him into his wholesome Chungus.
>>280432499>Also, it's funny that Sandro is doing the same OMNIOUS paneling with Tiger that he did with Dragon before falling in love with him and turning him into his wholesome Chungus.Sandro is a shameless opportunist. He deliberately made those ominous panels just to get people to talk about the chapter and speculate on what kind of person Tiger Shen would be and how evil he would be compared to Dragon Shen.
Like I and others have said many times, his goal with each chapter is to raise or at least maintain metrics on social media, the same way YouTube content creators churn content sludge with carefully designed thumbnails (like the ones that have the big arrows on them) to ensure search engine optimization. Sandro is basically doing the equivalent of that every chapter.
Sandro is almost certainly coasting on a poor overworked GPU to do the writing for him.
>>280432710Everything about Omega is more machine than man now.
>>280432781Everything except the actual fucking cyberbrain plot that was just completely dropped for literally no reason
>>280432937The machine probably got worried that it was hitting too close to home.
>>280432710Heavily disagree. This stalling is absolutely handcrafted. I've had more focused stories than this on fucking AI Dungeon.
What would this arc be called? Summarized? Explained? It feels like the last ~20 chapters are incohesive filler.
>>280434247I don't know anymore man. The past 100 or so chapters feel like the same arc that never ends and never goes anywhere
>>280434247The Scaling arc aka the training arc
What was the *last* significant plot development in Omega? Luohan's reveal? Mukaku's death?
>>280434365Tiger showing up surely? I guess it's far too early to say there's any significant plot development to be had by him showing up but feels like Sandro thinks it's a big deal
>>280434365I would say the Death Dealers holding the world at gunpoint and Kengan arranging a fight with Shen but the nukes are gone and nothing has happened
>>280398783Okay, I don't mind character assassination multiple times, but forgetting he literally stopped aging and then saying time is the great equalizer is unforgibable
SANDWICH WHAT ARE YOU DOING!?
>>280434866That's... what he says next page..............
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>>280434896>Hexes Carlos>Hexes Toa>Hexes Lu Tian>Hexes LolongWhy did they permit Yamashita to cheat?
>>280406372>too bad this is omegaNah, it's a Patek
>>280399028>Not my problemHe really is /ourguy/
>>280426477Nuking The Inside soon
I think Sandro poured all of his remaining soul into Strike it Richโฆ.
So... who is the bad guy then
>>280435515because those evil purgatory bastards don't deserve a fair fight
>>280398985>Half in the bagJay, what did you think of the connector's decision to destroy all the nukes all over the world? Oh sorry, the connector's tiger persona.
>>280400121>Idk what Sandro is thinking anymore,he isn't thinking, he doesn't need to write well since he hit it big after ashura so his writing now is just self indulgent bullshit with 0 effort put into it.
>>280432631It's the manga equivalent of pulp fiction. Pulp fiction writers generally didn't care about making something good, all their effort was put into getting the reader to turn page after page. It's how they came up with the concept of the "cliffhanger".
>>280436083Luohan (and maybe Gilbert)
What are the odds that Luohan turns into an ally for Wulong, specifically Tiger, now? He doesn't have to care about the DDs and Tiger even let him live.
What does that mean for the story, you might ask. I have no clue. But I feel it in my bones.
>>280438087>What are the odds that Luohan does something remotely plot relevant 0
>>280438087Luohan will only come up to be blamed for whatever bad thing the Worm did
>>280438222No one said anything about being relevant to the plot. Just a change of hearts. As far as I can tell, the DDs may as well not exist now so it's not like that's going to lead to anything storywise.
>>280438256You're not wrong.
>>280438087>>280438324We don't even know why he thinks Shen is evil and needs to be eliminated. So it's hard to guess what could make him change his mind.
Reminder that Sandwich still hasn't established why Luohan is evil.
>>280438394Ohma doesn't like him, that's all you need to know!
-Sandro
>>280402032>>>>>>air rending(ryuki's signature move from his signature style)>Koga>setsuanai HATE how every character's fighting style is Homogenized and interchangeable now, even the fucking formless is now a commonly used fighting style by every tom dick and harry
>>280438535Gaolang and Lu Tian I think
>>280400534>What is the point of this?to wank sandrobitch's OC dount steel
>Didn't we JUST get a Ryuki humiliation ritual from Raian?yes, before that we also had koga beat ryuki, gaoh, and now we're getting another one, hope you rike
>Why would he possibly think this will go better for him?because the writing is in the shitter now
>>280398746So the Dragon, who Ryuki supposedly cloned from, has Ohma's bang, while the Tiger, who Ohma supposedly cloned from, sports Ryuki's bang. I swear if Sandwich suddenly decides to retcon who The Real Tiger's vessel is...
>>280402032the biggest character assassination in this series after gaoh mukaku's adventures in china is how raian didn't kill them both then and there, or at the very VERY least cripple them both
>>280438804Why would Raian kill them? They're all good guys!
>>280438365I think wanting to kill your abusive schizo overlord-father is pretty normal
>>280438857How is Shen abusive exactly?
>>280438890Backhanding him for "disrespecting" his drinking buddy was completely unearned
>>280438947Not for disrespecting him - for threatening him. So it's fair in my opinion. That's not abuse, it's just being protective of your friends.
Iโm starting to think Ohma is The Tiger and Ryuki is The Dragon, with his friend-related bloodlust and all
>>280439298I don't think Sandro actually cares so you probably shouldn't either.
Did somebody call for "Tiger"?
>>280439389The way his pants fold toward the crotch is really weird. It looks like the penis is pulling the pants toward itself, or like there's a black hole where his balls should be.
>>280439048That only happened in Shen's delusions
>>280439712It was real in his mind.
>>280439737That deplorable bastard Lu*han planting nightmares in Shungus' dreams
Sandro should open up a vegan restaurant
>>280439810He's going to get shanked if he does that
>I am not crazy! I know he threatened Joji! As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just - I just couldn't prove it. He - he covered his tracks, he got that idiot Tiger Niko to lie for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He's done worse. Those Niko style guys? Are you saying they just happen to kill each other? No! He orchestrated it! When he was 5! He defecated through a sunroof! And I made him a high rank Worm! And I shouldn't have. I gave him all of my nukes and martial art memories! What was I thinking? He'll never change. He'll never change! Ever since he was out of the vat, always the same! Couldn't keep his hands out of my clones! But not our Luohan! Couldn't be precious Luohan! Stealing them blind! And he gets to learn my principles!? What a sick joke! I should've stopped him when I had the chance! And you - you have to stop him!
>>280398602OUR FUARKING HERO SHEN JUST STOPPED THE TERRORISTS...
Even though the Worms were responsible for this shit to begin with
>>280429740Dragon is the main personality that has been passed down and Tiger is the aberration. Luohan is weird because he has Tiger mixed into him.
>>280435515>cheatYamashita was doing his job as coach and team manager. Maybe Toyoda shouldn't have just sat back and done nothing the whole time and should have interacted with his team more.
>>280438535Koga has been adapting techniques from people throughout the whole manga. It's like the only part of his original character that's still intact.
Ryuki and Setsuna specifically traded techniques. It just so happens that Koga and Setsuna are better at using it than Ryuki because they ACTUALLY MIX IT UP WITH OTHER MOVES
Ryuki has like 3 moves, and while Earth Crouching Dragon is meant to create an ambiguous mix-up with Air Rending, he never fucking tries to make it ambiguous at all. It's a kick that requires too much movement, so you have to use it as part of a mix to make it worth a shit, but he just throws it out raw.
>>280440025This is what he'll say during the 'tragedy'
>>280413365>>280414241This is unbelievably shit, but still better than sandroslop.
>>280414401>You're being overly critical. Ohma's fights were entertaining for the most part. We got to see Joji and Kosmo's master in action for the first time. Koga and Ryuki learned what real fighting looks like, which is quite important when you remember that Wakatsuki only managed to beat Julius after he unlocked his own inner warrior. And speaking of Wakatsuki, does anyone really believe that his only progress was learning to jab? Because all those huge trees he destroyed seem to hint at something more.Admit it, you came from comikey didn't you?
>>280440760I've been on 4chan since 2007.
>>280399187It's fascinating to run into a character as blatantly hated/regretted by their creator as Ryuki. I know Sandro hates other characters too, but one who was supposed to be one of the protagonists? As a character he has NOTHING. He's completely pointless and empty.
He's defined entirely by his relationship to Koga, like the gay equivalent of some irrelevant sideline girlfriend in an ordinary shonen. He has no plot threads of his own. The whole clone/Omega plotline was stolen by Ohma because he's also a vessel and even Dragon Shen shows far more interest in him, despite Ryuki being Dragon Shen's own clone. He gets no development or screentime unless it's tagging along with Koga. He got zero character development out of the Mukaku revelations or hearing about his death. He's forced to actively revert and need to learn things he already should, like the Kure funhouse arc.
And as a fighter he likewise has nothing. No niche to distinguish himself at all. His ties to the Niko Style? Well, Ohma is back with the real thing! And Koga knows it too now! The Gaoh Style? A meme, and even then, Koga fucking knows it too and gets to utilize it more effectively than him(See - Raian). Koei Style? Gets seen through instantly by everyone these days, and it's likewise just a worse version of another character's moves. The ONE single time he was even offered a potential growth route, the Dragon Clan style, guess what? Koga learns it too. He was introduced as an "already strong" character to rival Koga, according to Sandro, but never won a fight against anyone with credibility without an asterisk since his debut, and got surpassed by Koga after one timeskip. None of Ohma's talent seems to be present in him at all, he acts like an amateur these days, and does shit like this chapter.
>>280434568Which horsegirl is the most similar to my wife Xia Ji?
How long will it take for zombies to be added to the story?
>>280440936Chapter 50 of Kengan Omega.
>>280440953Nothing happened Eddie, there was no party.
>>280440791>actually defending five fights at Ohma'sSure thing, Sandro.
>>280440807>and does shit like this chapter.This is like the worst part too. Like you said, zero character development but actually like a non-intended amnesiac as well? He got fucked up by Raian like days ago. And he knows for a fact that Wulong is stronger than Raian at least in theory. It just makes virtually no sense for him to say it. You can't even really say that's his personality like he's Asta or Luffy or something because he literally doesn't even really have a personality. I guess well mannered is the one way I can describe him? But that never really gets to shine in a fight so it's almost pointless as a trait? It's so weird. The more you think about him, and honestly anything at all in Omega be it characters, story, plot points, setting, whatever, the less it makes sense. The answer being that Sandro didn't put any thought behind these things as well, obviously.
This whole manga is just a bunch of characters going "ok nevermind"
Did Louhan bring back the hype?
>>280441210Honestly, a little bit yeah. Luohan not getting completely oneshot and even confusing Shen because of it was "something". Shen starting to schizo out into apparently into a different person was another. Then it turns out he solved all the world problems in one call and is just the same guy and we're back to the usual.
>>280441210For about one chapter, maybe. But then this chapter came out and all the stakes that were there on paper aren't even there on paper any more and Tiger turned out to be yet another wholesome chungus cool bro but this time modern and with ki coming out of him for whatever reason. So I guess a Koga vs Ryuki level of peak of hype
>>280441210It's impossible to be hyped any more when you just know any villain is going to be brutalized by the heroes. The last time there was even a little bit of hype was when Kuroki showed up suddenly and challenged Shen, even bringing Kanoh and Lolong with him. That was unexpected and a pleasant surprise.
>>280441381Tiger is the whole reason why the Worm exists, so if he ends up being just as nice as Dragon, the Worm would be completely useless.
>>280441486>the Worm would be completely useless.
>>280441486It's all Luohan
>>280441421What is Sandro's thought process?
>>280441210Kinda like this
>>280440899wouldn't the one that constantly fails fit him?
>>280441486>if he ends up being just as nice as Dragon, the Worm would be completely useless
>>280441036His thing used to be well mannered/obedient on a surface level and not really knowing how society worked and being unstable/easy to flip his switch into killing mode, but all of that was basically handwaved away offscreen. He's probably the least consistently written character in the series, which is saying something. Remember when he randomly started acting like some generic shonen rival edgelord going "HEH, KOGA, THE STRENGTH YOU GOT FROM THOSE SO CALLED FRIENDS OF YOURS... IT'S NOT TRUE STRENGTH, HEH", despite like a week earlier going up to Kiryu and asking for training.
Sandro made it seem like all of his conflicting socialization was about to come to a head when he went back to the inside to meet Mukaku, and then that meeting just got offscreened and skipped over in terms of consequences. He wakes up after they save him from the rape dungeon, goes "oh you're not my grandpa anymore, I guess :(" and then walks off without a second thought, and all of said instability and internal conflict vanishes on the spot.
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>>280398602What was the point of pic related then?
>>280442472To use as cameos in his other series
>>280442472Artificial way of raising the stakes.
>Look at all these politicians and criminal masterminds teaming up! The Worm is really dangerous see?And none of it ever mattered because the average Wormfag is still just a knife jobber.
THE TIGER AND THE DRAGON AND THE TIGER AND THE DRAGON AND THE DRAGON AND THE TIGER AND THE TIGER AND THE DRAGON AND
>>280442472>What was the pointAin't that just the recurring fucking theme of this entire goddamn series?
>>280442472Don't worry about it.
how long until ohma's niko revives himself
>>280442624I was convinced that Fu Zhan or Luohan would be able to fodderize these generic mafia goons to pump their stocks but I lost hope in that the moment I saw one of these characters in Strike it Rich.
>>280442472It's no big deal.
>>280442472The cool and morally superior KA giving criminals immunity for all of their wrongdoings!
My HEROES!!!
...ALL of the African Gangs?
>>280442472Introducing future jobbers
>>280441210Luohan actually made the manga worse. You see, Luohan has turned into the best character in the manga, I'm actually rooting for him. Problem is that that isn't Sandro's intention, Sandro is going to give Luohan a pathetic death. Thanks to Luohan I now have "dread" for the future of Kengan, instead of apathy.
>>280442855Won't happen, instead it'll be that other surviving Niko, who'll be revealed as having been in contact with Ohma's Niko when he was still alive, and he'll tell Ohma about how much his Niko cared for him, and that he had one last technique to teach him too
>>280442855OH MY NIKO STYLE
>>280443751This. I was completely free of any remote sense of investment or caring for a single character ever since the tragedy of Willem, and now Luohan's making me fall for another doomed character. That fucking monster...
>>280443751It reminds me of when the Kengan guys were hunting Xia and we were afraid he was going to be brutally murdered by Raian.
>>280443930I remember when I saw this page and I started getting hype. Worm wants him dead, Kengan wants him dead, he's completely alone in the world and being pushed to the edge while also having extreme talent but no motivation. I thought for sure that he was being set up as the third party, the wild card who snaps and decides that he'll be the wrench in everyone's plans.
Instead he was abused and ridiculed to the point where dying like Eddie or Fei might've actually been preferable.
>>280444370>O MY HIDDEN SUPERMAN SYNDROME>O MY HIDDEN SKILLS>O MY PLANNED WAREHOUSE RAPE AT THE HANDS OF KOGAGood plot Sandro. Good plot.
>>280444370He's joining Luohan
>>280444475Fuck you, fucking piece of shit. I actually got excited by your idea for a second, how could you do this to me?
>>280398639Every single time, without fail, that we get even a glimpse of the dynamics/inner workings of the Worm and Luohan's relationship it just makes me even more sympathetic toward him. Dude's never held any actual power while among them ever. Simultaneously the evilest creature alive yet also just the red-headed step child that's throwing an ignorable tantrum in their eyes.
>>280444370I'm still convinced this loser will come back and kill his brother.
>>280444865And he's gonna team up with Koga to do it because that'd be epic and leave us subverted.
>>280444370>>280444865I originally expected Yan to end up Koga's final boss, with Ji winding up interfering in the fight to try and get revenge on Yan, and wind up softening him up enough for Koga to win.
But now Yan is basically an honorary Kenganvenger, so I doubt that's going to happen. At most, maybe he and Fu Zhan compete in the inevitable KAT 2 that concludes the series(or at least Omega).
>>280444865And he's gonna get killed in return because Yan is now part of the Kenganvengers and god forbid a villain like Xia gets away with hurting a Kenganvenger.
>>280444865Nah, he'll be forgotten and left behind like Haruo and Kukuro or whatever his name was.
>>280442578>One of the gang leaders ended up becoming an associate of the girls over in Strike it Rich and made an appearance during Kengans "True Champion" arcYeah that sounds about right, one of the background characters that appeared in an Okubo cameo in Danberu ended up becoming the sister to one of the main protags of Blue Ursus and Strike it Rich's Hina's whole backstory involves that one Cult from Kengan that Hanafusa killed off
Sandro really does love taking random characters from other works and making them more prominent and doing call-backs
>>280444578>be born as a failure of a clone>raised to be a body double for Shen, except that Shen changed his mind and robbed you of all purpose>get a pen pal, notice that he's really talented and invite him to the Worm to try to contribute and help out your clone dad>find out that your pen pal killed most of his fellow students>feel bad for his mentor, and hear that two of your clone brothers have been born and will be killed for your clone dad's sake>decide to kill two birds with one stone by saving your clone brothers and giving your pen pal's mentor someone to take care of>work at your clone dad's company to help him out anyway despite his clear lack of morals>fast forward 20 years>grown up to be a nice man who obediently does everything he's asked to and is nothing but polite to people>everyone fucking hates you>they constantly tell you what an evil piece of shit you are even though you just do the jobs that they give you
>>280446102>your clone dad beats you hard enough to destroy the environment, with reasons like "perceiving you giving his friend the stinkeye in an alternate timeline">decide that you've had enough of this abuse and that your clone dad is an evil man>try to gather allies and the means to take your father down>the organization you're in charge of is completely loyal to your clone dad and they'd all act behind your back to appease him>your clone brothers who you personally saved and have never met before think you're an evil piece of shit>one of them would prefer to ally with your clone dad, despite him literally killing his adopted dad because "the planet told him to" >start wondering if your clone dad has dementia>he fucking bombed Italy for no reason a while back too>fuck it, not like you have any other options>straight up tell your clone dad that you want to kill him with honor, instead of just performing some sneak attack, and ask him for the means to do so, which are literal secrets of god>he actually just gives them to you because he thinks that little of you>decide to finally go through preparing for your plan to kill him>the only person willing to be in the same room as you is your childhood pen pal>who grew up to be a massive fucking jobber who's spent millions of dollars and hundreds of lives to learn how to (poorly) weaponize an Indian wrist burn>the man has nothing to contribute to your plan>if anything he'd be an active detriment and you're under no obligation to bring him with you>decide to share your god secrets with him anyway because he's your childhood friend, and you know he'd really appreciate them>start studying with your friend to take down your evil dad>your friend is constantly just thinking about when he should betray you>he doesn't even have a particular reason to betray you, it's just what he does>you don't wish to harm anyone but your dad>this makes you the main villainLuohan is a fascinating look into Sandro's mind.
>>280446102I never realized until now, but from his point of view, he's really the hero of this story.
>>280399187>I'm ending this """fight""" right now!>shen literally no diff'ing a fullbody kick with his forearmi hate this writing. ryuki isn't this fucking stupid so why pretend he doesn't know where he lands in the pecking order
>>280403733I'm not caught up with multiverse since i read it every few years and catch up all at once but from beginning to end it's absolutely better then omega and rivals asura being better the even it at placeses
>>280446102Niko will turn on Luohan, claiming he made Fei and Lu Tian give up their humanity;
>"I lost two sons because of you! I will not lose a third..." As he saves Setsuna from Luohan's backstabbing
>>280443930>>280444370>xai is hunted down and almost killed by the heakin kengan guys because.....he's evil and killed people!!!!>raian and his entire clan of inbred murderfucks that professionally work as murderers and almost tortured kazou's son to death only holding back to fuck with his dad kazooo get a free pass from everyone for WORSE BEHAVIOUR>monke is hunted down by the old cuck and his gang of assholes and beaten at every turn including koga being a petty fuck and beating him while he's down>all because he quit his shit job working for an old faggot that doesn't give too shits about himwhy does sandrobitch insist on doing /our guys/ dirty while raian and the inside murderhobos get a free pass
>>280445701This hack thinks he's DC comics, and loves self-fellating with his stupid cameos.
>>280446520You aren't thinking deep enough, he'll also blame Luohan for the deaths of the Nikos as well as Mukaku, because it was Luohan that tempted him into betraying them
>>280446596You're right. Mukaku that greasy old man treated Luohan like a catamite, but it's revealed Luohan the lusty shota seduced him instead
>>280446711>Setsuna being a boywhore is something that he learned because Luohan was a bad influence on himIt's all coming together...
>>280406336why did you turn your response into a 9gag meme instead of just typing like a person
>>280446837This. He should have greentexted it and added a soijak if he wanted to fit in with REAL 4chan culture
>>280438837>Why would Raian kill them?because he's a murderhobo who jacks off to gore videos
>They're all good guys!morality and it's consequences have been a disaster for kengan omega
>>280447055Raian spends his free time watching cute kitten videos on Youtube. He'd never hurt his friends, stop defaming him or I'll tell Sandro.
>>280447119>""cute"" kitten videoson liveleak maybe
>>280444370I've reread this arc like 20+ times and the fakeout death scene (which got me) is the angriest I've been at this manga. I'm not lying when I say Xia Ji has mindbroke me when it comes to reading into villains.
>>280447301>the fakeout death scenei don't remember what you are referring to, remind me if you don't mind
Wtf is even the point of this manga..just axe this shit
>>280427385Truthblastcore
>>280428656Yup its pretty good
>>280447301Are you referring to the fishing pole bit?
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>>280447470>>280447560Yes, "I" am "referring" to "that" scene. It got me during the "dump." The "rest" of this "arc" had me "furious" at other times across the years (four) since.
>>280444370>Get your dad killed because you want to be the Head of the Worm>Shen picks your annoying twin brother instead>You apparently suck so much at your job that while you're out struggling against 2 highly trained bodyguards there's 3 other dudes already standing on a mountain of low-tier jobbers waiting for you>Get demoted to the Japanese division by your annoying twin brother>Think you're finally getting somewhere with your plans to drive a wrench into Kengan when everything starts going to shit>Ohma's alive for some reason, a bunch of your own men are dead/dying, Lu tian knows Removal for some reason, an entire section of elites from an allied faction just got wiped out in an afternoon, you're getting raped by two old guys and your brother just declared the Worms defunct>Start running around japan as a homeless man because somehow you fucked up even though the Worms supposedly don't need to exist anymore and nothing you did was gonna matter then>Get told you can get back into the good graces of the Worm if you run an errand>Try your hand but you're getting jumped and assaulted left and right, nearly tortured in the process by some brown faggot>Ohma takes you to an abandoned warehouse so some moron can get his salty runback on you>Also you're surrounded by his goons who'll jump you if you try anything other than take the beating>Get no-diffed after an hour of getting chased around town >Realize you have nothing, you never had anything at all>The moment you lost you were officially excommunicated by the Worm which the Kengantards immediately learned off the moment it happened>live in custody in the KA where you're routinely interrogated but no one ever listens to youSandro wanted to Ji to look incompetent but all he did was make the Worms not only more incompetent but also largely uncaring of what ever happens to their own leaders. Honestly how the hell does this Cult even function when everyone is so retarded and petty
>>280447981Why do the cuts change shapes between the panels?
>>280447981>the tearsi hate sandrobitch and his tranny artist
>>280447981what's the problem here exactly?
>>280448660>brutally and mercilessly killed xai ji when he did nothing wrong.
>>280447981>Shen used to get so pissed off people imagined themselves dying horriblyWeird how Omega makes you miss stuff from eras long after the manga went bad. Sandro needs to retain ideas more.
>>280448660>What's the problemI care about Ji far too much.
>>280450327Ji deserves better
>>280447981This would've been insane
>>280444370Legit the only way for Sandro to redeem this manga is to have Ji kill Yan
>>280452553Kill Yan? The straight man in Shen's comedy duo? Hero that helped get rid of nukes and fought against Luohan? Why would he be killed?
>>280452553at this rate it might be more likely that Sandro will have Yan kill Ji
>>280406545Using your post as a jumping-off point, I never understood the point of suddenly shifting to "realism" as a counterargument. Isn't that pretty much an admission that anon's observations on the way Sandro writes governments is completely correct? It's just trying to shift the goalpost to whether or not it matters (and Sandro obviously wants you to think it matters).
Considering this the fight against the Worm is supposed to involve much more than just the Kengan Association (it literally involves the ENTIRE WORLD), it would be nice to actually see some politics again because this is the perfect opportunity for it to make a comeback in Omega. It would be nice to see the KA's allies do shit on-screen in general. Because as it is, they might as well have NEVER BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PLOT.
I don't know why Sandro would establish the KA working with the leader of all the African gangs if he's not going to show them doing anything. Apparently it's fine that Sandro is not utilising any of the shit he establishes?
>>280447206You were warned, anon.
THE LEGEND, Himuro Ryo, is on your way to your house. If you don't resist, maybe it'll be easier on you.
We're definitely the good guys by the way.
>>280446589Never forget that the Kure Clan practically betrayed Nogi at the KvP and Erioh actively shat on him when Nogi called them out on failing their contract, they completely got away with pulling that stunt.
Never forget that Muteba was never called out by anybody during the KAT when he surrendered half-way through his match with Wakatsuki out of concern for his future job prospects, yet we're supposed to condemn Yumi for not having any loyalty to his yakuza employers.
>>280453622I don't think Muteba and Yumi's situations are comparable. Muteba
>Reasonably surrendered in a situation he couldn't win and would very likely be crippled for life by>Reimbursed his employer with a free job at a later date (I know that this amounted to nothing in Omega but roll with me here)Yumi killed one of the bodyguards AND betrayed his previous employer for a fatter check. Someone who can be bought out by anyone is no good in a line of work like this, as it's entirely unprofessional and means that they aren't able to do their fucking job.
I'm not excusing the Kures though, fuck those guys.
>>280406555>I feel like the issue is that people doing the entertainment writing these days are just idea guys that shouldn't be doing actual writingBullseye. It doesn't help that bundles of immediate gratification and quick dopamine hits are innately a "lowest common denominator" thing.
>>280454190You can't convince me that there are things out there that are able to draw out any dopamine hits from Kengan Omega. I refuse to believe the Comikey comment section isn't some sort of mass delusion melted together with a block of irony and post-irony.
>>280454135I feel like it's a matter of respect and stuff. Metsudo wasn't mad Yumi left, but the way he did it.
Compare Agito and Yumi leaving
>Agito leaves Metsudo's employ by calmly explaining that he felt he needed to leave for his mental well-being >Yumi just up and leaves with no prior warning and also kills someone on his way outHonestly, given what happened in Ashura with Agito, Yumi legit could've sat Metsudo down and told him that he wanted to seek an employer with safer conditions and better pay and got what he wanted with no issues.
>>280454282NTA but yeah. This argument falls apart considering there is ZERO hype in Omega.
I'd take fucking Solo Leveling over this garbage just for a modicum of payoff to a built-up fight even as shitty as it is.
>>280454135>>280454331That's fair, but it's super funny how Sandro specifically phrased that Yumigahama killed a bodyguard while he was "running away".
And not only that, he even revealed in some gaiden that Yumigahama was obeying orders to kill Yasunaga, and also successfully went through with it. Yasunaga is even more inconsistent than Rikuto. At least his circumstances of death weren't suddenly retconned hundreds of chapters later.
>>280454135>Yumi killed one of the bodyguardsDoes Metsudo care about them, truly?
He was partying while the other bodyguards were mourning their dead comrades from the coup. The coup which he ALLOWED to happen because he wanted to have some fun with Hayami. Whom he spared and kept in a high position of power and influence in Omega.
>>280454360>garbageHey, no need to suddenly rag on Xia Ji's food sources. Expired ramen is perfectly edible.
>>280446102>>280446131>come home one day to shitty apartment you share with childhood friend>he's been gooning too hard and physically hurt himself>tend to his health before going back to studying yourself>he responds by pondering if he should kill you on the spot >before he can make up his mind, your clone dad walks in>starts schizophrenically rambling at you about more shit you didn't do>tells you he's finally had enough of you and to stay out of his life forever>completely snap, throw caution to the wind, and challenge your clone dad to fight that very second>politely relocate to a deserted area because you don't want to trouble your landlord or neighbors>clone dad beats the shit out of you while your friend watches and does nothing>half conscious, you barely make out him preparing the final blow while ranting at you for killing one of his friends in one of his latest schizo hallucinations or something>this equates to you "pissing him off for the last time" and having to die now>your life flashes before your eyes as he throws the punch>something wells up inside you, a lifetime of resentment and outrage>somehow manage to deflect it without even fully understanding how>mutter about shonen manga as you stand up for one final stand>still beaten down by clone dad>just when you think it's finally over, something happens>clone dad has some kind of seizure from sheer disbelief and outrage at you daring to not immediately die >babbles nonsense sounds to himself and walks away>can't help but laugh to yourself at the absurdity as you lay there in the rubble>friend comes over to help you up>there's a really awful smell coming from his pants for some reason, but you're too nice to comment on it
>>280454135>betrayed his previous employer for a fatter check.There's literally nothing with working for whoever pays you more. They couldn't even refute it when Yumi brought it up. Killing the bodyguard is just another excuse Sandro asspull when he realized he didn't make Yumi hateable enough, but it makes the writing even more jarring because despite not doing anything wrong, Yumi still got chased by Metsudo's minion like some kind of cult and got cornered enough to consider killing one
>>280454869No, anon, you don't understand - it's perfectly fine for a CEO to leave a company behind to start another one and compete with the original, he would even be hardworking if he did so, but a worker leaving a company for another? A vile TRAITOR, that's what he is. There is an insurmountable RIFT between the CEO ubermensch and the blue-collar PRIMATE who thinks he's worth more.
>>280454135I think one of the issues with Yumi is that as far as I see it Yumi in the yakuza business isn't really doing anything different from let's say the Kure clan where they work with the highest bidder and then bounce once the money well dried up
I guess in Yumi's case it's because he's just one guy and can be easily bullied unlike the Kure who have a whole village to themselves that makes money off tourism or something and can regularly go back on a deal if it suits them. This is the Underground World of fighting and killing so it's not like Yumi is doing anything seriously crazy for their standards
>>280455034>This is the Underground World of fighting and killing so it's not like Yumi is doing anything seriously crazy for their standardsIn the original page that inspired the edit posted in
>>280411258, it's Nogi basically saying that fraud and trickery is perfectly acceptable within the KAT, and there's even a societal pressure that prevents victims from speaking up.
If it was early Asura, we might have gotten a few pages of narration about how companies who have been fucked over by bigger, stronger companies within the organisation take their frustration out on the smaller ones who can't fight back and are just so happening to utilise the same tactics.
Too bad this is Omega where everybody is either tarred with feathers or whitewashed into noble purity.
>bump limit
FUCK YOU LUOHAN
>stubbed my toe on the bed
FUCK YOU LUOHAN
>missed my stop at the train station
FUCK YOU LUOHAN
>spilt my coffee over the table
FUCK YOU LUOHAN
>misplaced my keys
FUCK YOU LUOHAN
>>280454494>>280454869>>280455187Like I said, the killing of the bodyguard wasn't the reason Metsudo hated him.
It was because he displayed zero respect or formality with leaving. Metsudo, as Yumi's EMPLOYER, should EXPECT the monke to treat such an act in a formal way, not just run away to someone who pays better with no prior warning or formal discussion of it.
It is basic fucking courtesy to your employer to explain if and why you're leaving their employ, and in a society like Japan doing all that shit in such a disrespectful way is a really serious offence.
>rescues me from an organ harvesting facility
FUCK YOU LUOHAN
>>280455581I didn't mention Yasunaga in my post.
>>280455581>and in a society like Japan doing all that shit in such a disrespectful way is a really serious offence.Isn't South Korea even worse in terms of work culture? How deep can it get?
That goddamn piece of shit Shen Wulong's failed clone... I can't even say his name.
>>280455601I'm talking about the one where backstabbing is expected in the KA.
That doesn't give you free fucking reign to do it because one, that's shitty business practice because it basically says "You cannot rely on me," and two it's incredibly rude.
That kind of rudeness and disrespect is expected but consequences for such behavior should also be expected.
>>280455623I'm pretty sure it's worse there, but like I said Yumi's real crime wasn't leaving, it was leaving the way he did.
>Zero notice or formal discussion>Randomly kill one of your co-workersIt's unnecessary, dumb, and cruel. See, death is expected in an organization like the KA, but killing someone for zero practical reason in a way that just draws heat to you is a terrible idea.
Yumi is less evil than he is completely fucking retarded
If Yumi didn't want to be chased like a dog and get his knees broken, he should have asked nicely his LORD and MASTER for a leave. Can't believe people here defend pure evil behavior like this, really makes you lose hope for the world.
>>280455636>because one, that's shitty business practice I don't contest this, but I do contest the idea that Sandro isn't applying double-standards or the idea that Sandro has written business politics well at all in general. In the page with Nogi, we're obviously supposed to see his words as authoritative.
Obviously Yumi is an ass, I just don't like Sandro's double standards. I get why the Kure Clan is a hypocritical mess, but I wouldn't have a problem if they were treated like Yumi was.
>>280455707Yeah
>>280455702This but unironically. Just running out and killing a coworker is a retarded way to quit a job
>>280455804>Just running out and killing a coworker is a retarded way to quit a jobYumi was unironically following orders to murder Yasunaga by some nebulous third party who bought him out. We CAN agree that's bad, but if Hayami manages to get away with a second coup attempt, what happened to Yumi is definitively a case of bullying the little guy who can't fight back as hard as the slightly bigger guys.
>>280403733DBM is miles better than DBS.
Miles.
>>280403733If they just started out Goku vs XXI like this, it'd be fine, but they baited us with Goku breaking out of the reverse HTC beforehand. Should've just skipped that scene entirely, because now it just feels like we were being led on to believe this was going to be a real fight.
>>280455581>literally had to run away while having another bodyguard chasing after his assGood fucking luck sit down to "discuss'' with that old arrogant fuck and can leave that place in one piece
>>280455804There's zero reason Yumi would murder another bodyguard he had no relationship with unless Yasunaga tried to harm him. Sandro did asspull ANOTHER reason that Yumi was following order but it makes zero sense that someone with that much power would tell him to assassinate some irrelevant bodyguard instead of you know...someone actually important like the old Fang or Metsudo hรญmelf
>>280455939NTA, just jumping off of your post.
Metsudo genuinely has himself to blame with how Hayami got away with pulling another coup that also threatened the lives of the world leaders. In another story where Metsudo has to face consequences, it would have led to him losing a lot of trust and influence and even cause his bodyguards to start flaking because they have an obvious sign that Metsudo will let them get away with a lot of shit. Yumigahama doing what he did IS in fact a logical outcome of Metsudo's actions and "leniency" towards people like Hayami.
>>280455939I'm STILL mad. Yumi could have just been a normal heel and reoccurring rival for Koga but Sandro went full retard instead and made him an irredeemable murderer (not a problem for Raian of course).
>>280456362Koga is only allowed to have rivalries against homeless bums now, sorry. I hope you're anticipating Xia Ji's return and the third-coming of Yumigahama as a guy who has to whore himself out in soaplands to survive!
>>280453409>Himuro Ryo>the guy who couldn't finish off a cripple nah I'd WIN
>>280455581The issue is that Metsudo deemed Fighters as nothing more than pawns, so there's no telling how Metsudo would have reacted if told that Yumi wanted to quit working for him. Agito only got away with dipping out because he lost his title and Metsudo was personally raising him so there was a certain degree of kinship there. Yumi was just an employee who rose through the ranks
Yumi isn't, or at least wasn't before Sandro wrote him working for the Yakuza, a guy who was cool with killing people. He was just a retarded school bully who pressed people for fun. Him killing some literal who nobody after being chased down by Metsudo's men makes it sound more like self-defense than Yumi killing for no good reason considering who it is he's trying to get away from
>>280453622>>280454135What about that time Muteba just let every civilian on a boat get killed by pirates because he wasn't being paid to protect them? Remember that?
>>280454135>Yumi killed one of the bodyguardsthey literally tried to stop him from leaving, the fuck you mean killed ? they held him against his will, it was self defence
>AND betrayed his previous employer for a fatter check.he literally just left, the fuck you mean betrayed ? agito did the same shit by leaving
>>280456479It's not even that Sandro made Yumigahama into a murderer just to get readers to hate him, it's also that he doesn't even have the guts to make Yumi actually hurt anybody we can care about on-screen. He did it AGAIN with Kure Rikuto and for all we know Sandro will probably write an additional addendum in some future gaiden that Rikuto actually committed suicide because the bad guys can't even have THAT little thing going for them.
>>280456537Sandro will write a Rikuto gaiden where we see him fight Eddie, where Eddie is being overpowered and on the ropes, looking terrified. "THIS POWER!!! IT'S JUST LIKE KURE ERIOH HIMSELF IN HIS PRIME!"
But then the VILE Luohan backstabs the noble Rikuto and fatally wounds him. Luohan smiles at his friend Eddie and goes to help him up, only for Edward to slap him and tell him never to interfere in an HONORABLE clan feud ever again, not that scum like him could possibly understand a duel.
>>280456498Muteba's epithet is literally "The Genocider" and everybody's cool with him because he's polite.
He's more of a "Surrenderer" now, but I digress.
>>280456498Well they're EVIL for using weapons (like Kenganvengers)
>>280456598>Luohan>fatally wounding THE Kure RikutoMaybe in a scrapped draft of the gaiden where Edward slaps him for interfering in an alternate universe anyway.
>>280456644You made a good point...
Luohan appears and BLACKMAILS the noble, unfathomable Rikuto, telling him that his ambiguously existing "men" who also targeted Yamashita in a parallel universe, have a rifle trained on his wife and children at that very moment... forcing him to stop fighting back and throwing away his well deserved victory... a true tragedy...
>>280456735We're also getting a page dedicated to Rikuto opening a wound in himself so Edward will be able to kill him, because no way Edward Wu by his lonesome can kill a perfectly healthy Rikuto even with Mount Tai North Star Eightfold Trigram Palm Fist. Truly a tragedy...