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Thoughts about AI being used in anime /a/? IMO they seem much better than shitty CG

garbage
next thread please

saaar...

>>280404343 (OP)
Good, far better than CGIshit.
>>280404436
>>280404448
Cry harder.

Oh great, another stupid fucking faggot spam thread.
Bhenchod

>>280404343 (OP)
that looks exactly LIKE shitty CG. i spit out my drink the moment that berserk-looking ass carriage appeared on screen

>>280404343 (OP)
looked acceptable until 0:03

in 60 years they will look back at the people complaining about ai and laugh

>>280404343 (OP)
Holy shit that is terrible, it makes Berserk 2016 look like a masterpiece

>>280404343 (OP)
WAY TOO UNCANNY HOLY SHIT

>>280404343 (OP)
I assumed this was an example of terrible CGI, until the replies said this was AI.

>>280405168
I doubt it.

>>280404590
Exactly this.
>>280405226
and this
>>280405168
In 60 years they'll think this swill looks like even more ass than we do, the same way we think about how goofy ass monster movies from the 20s look absurd.

You're fellating a transient form of media.

>>280405168
Why would they? Unless the material made by our AI gets lost

>>280404343 (OP)
Some of the shots are impressive, and the character consistency isn't bad, but I assume the trick is image to video using the same starting frame with multiple different prompts.
Probably also helps that the characters are all in the same outfits, and that the outfits are so concealing.

>>280404343 (OP)
it is not bad or goood, it is inevitable

>>280404343 (OP)
Something inhuman about this video.

>>280404343 (OP)
It ain't gonna happen because right now is already its peak
AI is all over the place simply by the fact that AI companies are not charging much, if they charge anything at all. They are funded overwhelmingly by investors who expect a profit in the future

In a few years, they will start asking for a return on investments, and enshittification begins.

>>280404343 (OP)
>IMO they seem much better than shitty CG
AI is way better than 3d cancer.

>>280404343 (OP)
Unneedful saar, apologize to cgi

this was done in 1 hour by 1 person as a hobby, keep in mind, with traditional nethods you cant even draw 1 frame in that time

>>280407737
too bad this isn't presentable so that's 1 hour of time wasted

>>280407737
>by 1 person
1 machine, you mean

>>280404343 (OP)
>AI copies shitty CGI
kek

>>280407153
Much like corporations failed to stop open-source software on consumer PC in the 90s, there doesn't seem to be a good way for corporations now to enforce control over AI. The general public may not care about profit motivated enshittification until it gets really bad, but the niche market that does is still large enough to sustain itself.

Why do low IQ people think this shit looks good? Like flies to shit they are.

>>280404343 (OP)
That looks like shit. Get back to streetshitting you cretin.

>>280405168
in 60 years constant mega storms and heat bulbs are going to be an every day occurrence and nobody will be watching anything, ai or otherwise

>>280405168
two more hours

>>280409055
literally what the fuck is a mega storm or a heat bulb.

>>280404343 (OP)
Fuck off.

>>280404343 (OP)
Motherfucker couldn't even move his eyes to look at his target. A consistent problem with AI is that it's so bad with character acting. Even the king getting killed here isn't reacting appropriately to getting shot. Awkward camera angles, too.

>>280404343 (OP)
It looks better without context yes but it’s completely devoid of emotion. If this were an ingame cutscene in a lower budget sprite based video game and it plays when something big happened it’d be completely passable. But as something to actually watch, it looks bad plain and simple. Less appealing than actual CGI.

>>280404343 (OP)
This is horrific

>>280409285
>>280409370
>>280409397
luddites

>>280404343 (OP)
All sequences are a single image animated to give some little movement, it's not good way too stiff. Also SAAS should never be used because they will roll up enshitification soon enough.

>>280404343 (OP)
Who's driving the carriage?

>>280409285
There is also a shitload of copy and paste faces, faces shifting from shot to shot, faces distorted everywhere, hands holding the staves are all fucked up,odd nonsenseical movement, outfits changing, details changing all the time, like the king's crown changing between shots, the city shifting from moldy ruins to pristine, the archer looking away form his target, him pointing at the sky when the target is just in front of him and below, no one controlling the horse, the color temperature changing all the time.
There are shitload more issues but that is with just 20 seconds alone.

>>280404343 (OP)
It's fucking garbage and I will not watch it.

>>280404590
>>280405128
I agree. If they wanna use it for small portions is ok, but for long scenes? lmao

>>280407153
Another looming problem is that AI needs vast amounts of data to train and the main source of that, the Internet, is now being heavily polluted by AI itself. Feeding an AI's output into it's training data leads to worsening results and eventual model collapse.

>>280404343 (OP)
You can't post that kind of piss and then call it better than CG. CG comes in stages of awful, that right there is beneath it all.

>>280410060
ai driven carriage

>>280408911
AI costs a LOT to power and maintain
Individuals can use it but it will never go far without corporate backing

AI needs to hurry up and save anime by replacing the 3d disease.

>>280412995
>let's save anime!
>by replacing cancer with tubercolosis!

>>280411558
Maybe what works without being run by a shitty corporation will lag behind what the shitty corporations can manage burning money right now, but at some point those companies have to stop burning money, they'll make their AI shit, and that opens the door to non-shitty AI as a business model.

A lot like how Microsoft made their OS into shit because that is more profitable and the general audience doesn't care if their OS is shit, but there is also a niche audience for a non-shit OS and companies that make good money from that. Not as much as Microsoft, but their offerings are better.

>>280404343 (OP)
The arrow hitting the guy had no impact whatsoever. Doesn't even look the least bit satisfying.

>>280405168
Literally daily cell animation threads on here and you actually believe this? Bahahaha

>>280404343 (OP)
I love how he shoots without looking at the target or contracting muscles.

>>280404343 (OP)
what's wrong with their hands?

>>280413716
flesh is imperfect, machines have no use for those crude things

>>280413060
No, individuals cannot really match corporations as they can make purchases in bulk
AI processing is known for burning graphics cards like it's mining for bitcoin
LA is filing complaints to Musk due to how much power he drains from the city just to power Grok

What is this shit? Did someone edit in aislop into some old cel animated show?
>the exact same aijeets running defense as every other aislop investor advertisement thread on every board

>>280404343 (OP)
this shit is so ass

Oh no, it's entirely aislop. The fuck is this garbage doing here?

>>280408988
Like you could do any better faggot

>>280414391
Musk can just sell the heat produced by grok data servers, easy

>>280404343 (OP)
Looks like it was done by a guy who read 1 "how to draw anime" book.

>>280404343 (OP)
cgi carriage made me laugh

>>280404448
?

Call me when AI can make this into an anime
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/209219703/#q209228089

>>280414391
You're the only one talking about individuals. There are a lot of small companies running AI data centers, and like I said the shittier the big company makes their product, the more that eliminates the cost advantages of the big players. Shit software is more expensive to run.

>>280410800
stop being retarded, that's better than any 3dpd shit

>>280418875
Posting this for the 50th time isn't going to make it true.

>>280413703
That's how good he is.

Looks exactly like shitty anime, only hundred times cheaper.

>>280404343 (OP)
>Even shitslop can't animate horses
How are they so powerful?

AI will save anime.

>>280418875
Do you even know what 3dpd means?

>>280404343 (OP)
Seamless transition is possible now (without having to employ gazillion in-betweeners)

>>280423793
>AR but bad

>>280407737
Who cares? You could have 10 people spend 10 hours on this and it still wouldn't look better because the way genAI itself works is shit

>>280423793
>seamless
That right there has more seams than a pair of jeans

>>280404343 (OP)
Their cloaks fluttering in the wind in the beginning looks insanely well done.

AI might be best right now for draw-intense scenes but as time goes on it can do more and more scenes.

Maybe.... Maybe I can now make my own anime?

>>280413716
New Naurto hand signs look dope.

>>280404343 (OP)
CGI may have been shitty in the beginning, but at least it was consistent and cohesive. AI is not there yet. It's gonna come though.
I know this is claimed all the time, but give it two years. People see OP's video and rightfully call it shit, but they forget the peak of video AI gen two years ago was this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itbc12qXr30

>>280404343 (OP)
I don't know what this has that makes it look so cold and creepy. I wonder if even the most amateur animator can reach this lack of soul. Anyway, i expect greedy studios using AI this to produce anime with less cost.

>>280404506
poo

>>280409285
It's only going to get better from here, give it a couple of more years

>>280424689
Please do saar, and upload it so that I may point and laugh at it

>>280410060
IT'S LELOUCH HE WAS THE CART DRIVER

>>280425043
The improvements over the last couple of years have been negletable at best. In 50 years it will still be as bad as it is not, because that's just how LLM works

>>280423793
This is like if you told a machine to forcefully move around a still image, it ended up being uncanny valley. That isn't even how an anime expression looks like. It's just very off-putting and un-Japanese.

>>280405168
Oh 100% it’ll be like cavemen complaining about fire.

>>280405168
>60 years
We ain’t makin it bub

>>280405168
>Mr. Nostradamus thinks he can predict the future and we're supposed to simply believe it
huh?

>>280405168
Nah more like someone smart enough is going to figure a way to snuff out AI and he's going to be a billionaire in a day or two. There's going to be a paid internet with no AI and one full of it before big tech realizes there's a market for it. Same for spam/bot free internet aka the internet when people could actually engage. This version of the internet will still be around but it will be flooded with bots.

>aislop is the futu-ACK!
The rope is coming Rajeesh

What does /a/ think of AI dubs? https://youtu.be/T00E7_4Av00?si=6DODMXP4-SvPr4LC

>>280426484
Was already posted here not long ago and we called it shit back then too.

>>280426410
Adblocker but for AI. Dude will be the first trillionaire.

>>280410060
Never mind who's driving the carriage, how is the carriage staying upright and moving when there's nothing connecting it to the horse?

>>280426448
whenever I came across youtube videos made by AI or using AI voiceovers I immediately blocked them

>>280404343 (OP)
I think that slop is a reference to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVNfLKS_iiw

>>280404343 (OP)
it's like everything, you need to use it right
AI is a tool. if you can use it well, none of the faggots here crying about "muh soul" would be able to tell the difference, and certainly no one here gives a shit about how many jobs could be lost because of it

same for cgi and digital animation
there was a lot of shitty hand drawn animation, there was a lot of shitty digital anime and a lot of shitty 3d, why should AI be different? it's just a tool, and if studies can use it properly, it can be good

sadly it's how technology works. when digital animation became commonplace, many people who didn't keep up with technology were left behind in place for the ones who can turn on a computer. in reality, anyone who ever had a future in animation will move on and learn AI, and the way it's advancing, in a couple of yerars people will be unable to tell when it's used

>>280405168
I'd be over 90 by then so I don't care.

>>280405168
No, we will look at AI the same way we look at uranium enriched makeup and toys. Since it has only brought cancer upon the internet.

>14 hours later
>ai advertisement thread that is NOT ANIME OR MANGA is still up

It is based

>>280404343 (OP)
People don't appreciate things just because they look good, they appreciate them also for the work and talent that went into making said things.
Call me an optimist but I don't think humanity will so quickly start appreciating the work of AI over the work of humans. After all, soul vs soulless is pretty much whether the work has a human soul imbued into it from effort and passion, something AI can't do even if it can perfectly replicate the style.
If we do start to prefer AI shit, then humanity is actually doomed.

>>280426880
Can AI make this cat dancing?

>>280404343 (OP)
You are a real woman, OP. And this is real art.

>>280404343 (OP)
Looks like shit

SAAR LOOK AT THIS BEAUTIFUL AI ANIME, WHY ARE YOU MAD
CRY HARDER BLOODY BENCHOD LUDDITE, 60 MORE YEARS, DO NOT REDEEM

>>280426410
So like the old and new net in cyberpunk 2077?

>>280405168
In less than 20 they'll have made AIs making anything a form of copyright violation

>>280428197
I have two friends who have specialised in AI in their industries, and the amount of people who just don't care about how shitty the things the AI produces is absolutely staggering.
I don't think any of those people would give a rats ass about human effort either

I've made tens of thousands of AI generated pics to coom to and I have to say that when I get done making AI pics and sit down and watch some 90's anime and I can appreciate all the hand drawn lines, it's like it sooths my mind...

>>280404343 (OP)
It's a huge pipeline boost but still far from perfect, we're back at the 80s CGI basically, though progress will come much faster now.

>thread is still alive
GOOD MORNING SIRS

>>280404343 (OP)
Same as CGI. I don't care as long it's good enough.

>>280426448
Oh no, how will the 20 000 voice changer using virtual tube cope with this?

>>280429923
It's really not a boost though. It's only going to add more work to correct all the fundamental fuckups the AI makes.
And then there is the fact that you can't copyright anything made by an AI in the US which will more than likely disuade the Japanese further

Reminder that are 700 million indians that have recently gained access to the internet and it's still not even half the country's population

>>280429376
lul
We all know why AIfags don't tag it

>>280429993
Voice changer has no problem
It is your accent and grammar that reveals everything about you

Lavabod Omoi vs Yab Large
The great debate

>>280430087
Of course people who seek out art would care about the artestry. I'm talking working drones who are barely literate in what they do themselves.

>jeets worshipping aislop like how they worship cow dung
Kek. Even flies have better standards

>>280423793
Notice the background shift before the camera turns away, then after it turns back
that video is a bad example, it can't even maintain coherency in the same shot if something leaves the border

>>280429957
It's 3pm in India now, you sleepyjeet...

>>280408804
>This
It's all so tiresome.
We've arrived at a place where crappy cg is based and soulful compared to slop shit because at least someone real made it.

>>280416536
>>280414391
I wonder if in the future we'll see huge settlements in places like Arctic Canada built on top of giant servers
The local climate would cool the servers while the servers would warm the settlement above.

>>280426448
Isn't promoting slop in their financial interests? Are they doing it to limit how inbred their models are?

I really don't like the overuse of the term "AI"
Man there's "AI" in everything. From video games to appliances.
What we're talking about is procedural generation.

>>280415238
are you at least getting paid to shit up the board like this

>>280430048
We have to go back. Turn off star link.

>>280404343 (OP)
>IMO they seem much better than shitty CG

I agree. Corporations are just waiting for public acceptance.

>>280430505
That's how tech-related businesses operate nowadays. Marketing based around buzzwords over actual merit or meaning.
Doesn't help that "AI" has always been a broad umbrella term that really does apply to many solutions, while the general public still thinks it's basically "smart human but on computer :OOO".

>>280405168
>in 60 years they will look back at
Stop. No. In 60 years they won't be looking back at anything, because the world will be flooded with so much junk that any sense of history will be dead. You won't know your past, you won't know your leaders, you won't know anything. This is the obvious and inevitable conclusion to the tech we're seeing today.

>>280405168
We still complain and shit on about bad CG even though its been around for over 20 years so I don't know why you think this would be different.

>>280430826 (Me)
..which is somewhat funny considering we've been calling video game bots "AI" for years. And I don't think many people consider them good.

>>280423793
What's the workflow for creating this kind of video?
Have you seen it used commercially yet?

>>280423793
I don't get why people post this shit and try to pretend everything's cool when everybody else also has eyes

>>280430785
saar link

wow this is literally ghibli tier quality i'm shaking luddites btfo

>>280426448
I wonder how those AI trailer shit channels are going to survive now

>>280426448
oh no this is literally a holocaust save me grok!

>>280426448
I don't believe that.

>>280430482
They have to tone it down because their AI models become even more incomprehensible when fed their own generated bullshit to the point that even NPCs start to notice.
You can’t get anything of value when slop is overflowing from your plate.

>>280426448
Better question that nobody is asking: how will they determine who or what is real or not?

>>280430946
kek

>>280431015
Funnily enough, using AI.
They can also watermark outputs of their generative models.

>>280430947
why is this shitty cat so smug?

>>280410582
Agreeing with this. Sooner or later, ai will just become incestuous shit feeding off itself. Theres only so much it can pull from before ai slop will overtake the source material it's trained on. Using ai to “enhance” or “improve” animation is unlikely to be sustainable in the long term especially given how fundamentally flawed the results already appear but greedy corporations don't give a fuck as long as they can fire employees and save a buck.

>>280432508
>bumped from page 10
thanks, ranjeet

>>280404343 (OP)
holy shit, rip studio gilbili

>>280426448
NOTHING
EVER
HAPPENS

>>280426448
>>280434351

>>280434379
So? The further they drown in their own dravidian filth, the better

>>280404343 (OP)
>king reacts to getting shot before the arrow hits him
kek