Thread 280444999

This summer

Awaiting his meltdown.

I rabu Iori.

where's the second season goddammit

our

Pander or not to pander, which one is true?

chad asta... please fuck my wife

I'll believe Otr will survive!

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PLEASE, PLEASE TALK ABOUT KGBT

>>280445759
It's too late for Otr. MH hates it.

>>280445861
Sorry, I'm spent after that three hour long maxed out thread this morning.

>>280445759
I know Otr will die

>Hiruhiko
>Uruha
>Samura
Pick one. Explain why.

>>280445759
Kawaguchi couldn't overcome the voices in his head. Again.

>>280446290
What the hell am I picking one for.

>>280445972
>MH
Who?

>>280445861
We love loud twinks, poses and swords clinking.

>Rie Matsumoto was so disgusted by Shueisha's line up she'd rather do a kodomo manga
Yikes

>>280446290
>Uruha
Hottest

>>280446290
Samura>Uruha>Hiruhiko
Fuckability wise.

>>280446338
MangaHelpers anyone remember that Nuefag who had a hate boner for KGB?

>>280446290
Uruha.
He had less screentime and thus was less fucked up by Hackazono.

>>280446290
Samura>Hiruhiko>Uruha
Retardedness-wise.

>>280446290
Samura, he's the coolest of the three and I just like him the most out of all of them.

[Theatrical pre-sale ticket sales] As of July 9, 2025, according to the websites of cinema branches and the information released by the official channels of the branches, the sales of movie pre-sale tickets of several major distribution theaters in Japan were manually counted: 96 Lawson theaters nationwide, 75 TOHO theaters, 25 Shochiku theaters, 22 Toei theaters, and 21 109 theaters, as well as independent theaters other than the major theaters. Because some theater websites failed to synchronize the inventory data of movie pre-sale tickets in a timely manner, the system missed a high rate, which was particularly prominent in AEON theaters and independent theaters other than the major theaters. Therefore, the actual sales volume may be more than the statistics show. At present, at least 320 theaters have sold out the [8-set set] . The number of theaters where both the [Set] and [Combination] <組み合わせ別ver. > are sold out has increased to 121. [Aiwoza version] ＜Aiwoza Building ver.＞ 172 theaters reported sold out.

>>280446459
>Hackazono
Leaked chapter confirmed he's not a hack fraud though.

live

very relative.

>>280444999 (OP)
>>This summer
>everyone's favorite plumber…

>>280445759
I think it's possible, but it might not stick. Maybe it can scrape by in the next round if the new sports series do worse than it, but unless something substantially changes, it's going to meet the axe sooner or later.

>>280445502
HEROES

>>280447141
From right to left
>dead father
>dead father
>not dead father
Samura has so many flags at this point I think they will just save him from certain death.

>>280446539
You got the source to this? I want to see it.

>>280447167
>>not dead father
His fate of becoming flower fertilizer is inevitable.

>>280447141
BACHI HEROES
BACHI HEROES
FIND YOU, CONFINE YOU, DEFYING YOUR REIGN
BACHI HEROES
BACHI HEROES
SETTING THE STAGE FOR A HERO'S PARADE!

>>280446570
>from depressed, suicidal badass
>to bumbling, sweaty mess in one single look from his daughter
No wonder Uruha lost, Inori had him grabbed by the balls.

FUCK THE AXE!

>>280447451
Uruha never had a chance, even after he poisoned and killed Inori.

>>280447549
>six horns of the ice devil
Even that sounds lame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciaL325dUos this scene is better than any scene from bc btw

>poker
>now horse racing
Jump should open their and see that gambling and ludopaty are whats hot right now
Make shonen Akagi/Kaiji

Guess the wsj character by their famous quote:

"I JUST SHAT MYSELF!!!"

>>280448598
Heh, classic Tafuku.

>>280448517
Just make early YGO again

KINO Piece
KINO×KINO
Me and KINOco
SaKINOto Days
The Elusive Samurai
KINO Watch
BLEAK Box
AKINO-baNINO
RuriDRAGon
KINO Blue
Nue's ExorSHIT
KINOrabachi
Ultimate Exorcist KINOshi
HORRENDUS-Ten!
Ichi the WINNER
KINObi Undercover
BAD Prison
Otr of the Flame
Harukaze WOuNd
KaedegaMID
Ekiden BLOWS
PEAK-Pong Peril

>>280446290
Uruha because he's my cute retarded gay loser husband.

>>280448922
>t.SHIThiko the PATHETIC JOBBER

>>280445759
Why would it survive? Kawaguchi literally made that same mistakes he did with RedHood

A lot of the new manga seem more like trash that should've been thrown on Jump+ instead, I don't know what the editors are thinking.
KDG was so-so storywise but the mangaka could at least draw hot girls, then he immediately threw out that audience by turning her into shitty mascot character. What was he thinking?

>>280449307
at least kdg is better than nue

>>280449465
I say this. I hope the first ED for the anime is Chihiro just driving around at night.

>>280449307
>What was he thinking?
editor told him to add a mascot

>>280449526
thank you for reminding me that chihiro canonically knows how to drive

Read her manga.

>>280449569
Shame Takeru hasn't done much with that, hope we get a car chase scene with him behind the wheel at some point.

Even if Ichi ends up becoming a 100k seller thanks to Tsugimanga it's still fucked because all the good anime studios are really busy. It will end up being another SD

>>280449687
Cygames will pick it up

Jojo has it worse and it came out survives just fine.

>>280449687
offsource to a chinese studio so they animate the chinese arc, that way the CCP pays for it

HI

MA

TEN

"exclamation mark"

Cosmetic Brand "Himariz"

An energetic high school girl president

With 80,000 followers

I'm the charismatic model Yoshino Himari

But I can't cook

I can't do laundry

I can't clean the dishes

And I can't even use the copy machine.....

I totally suck at housework

My company hired a personal housemaid for me

A GUY FROM MY CLASS?!

IEMORI TENICHI?!

I CAN'T LET THE ENTIRE SCHOOL KNOW ABOUT THIS

It's a secret between us

WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO?!

Good Morning Iemori

"yawn"

My high school life is over

I'm so lame

That's right, you baka

Himariz? That's my cosmetic

I look up to my housekeeper

From now on, please protect my home, okay?

My housekeeper <3

i kagurabachi on your moms face troles
fuuuuuuucccccckkkkkkk
who would you rape more
1. akedaegami shoungai
2. akane
3. iori

>>280450199
Iori exists purely to be raped.

>>280450199
the girl from kaedegami is easily the hottest girl in current wsj

>>280447549
Man, so glad I dropped this after ch3. U19'd again?

>the autistic Black Clover Spic is still right going on with its pre-sale cope flag and trying to mask desperation as confidence
Your insecurity is reeking, just like Aniplex's insecurity is reeking with all of their rebroadcast cope to get general audiences back.
>>280445382
Over what? lol. All of my box office predictions are looking good so far (I was right about Minecraft, Lilo and Stitch, Jurassic World, Snow White and even that piece of shit Elio made over $100M rofl. Superman projections are chaotic, but it'll very likely makr $130-171M opening). Even the Japanese think this movie will cap out at 15 billion yen and admits the situation is different from Mugen Train, which was able to monopolize screens across Japan because of Covid. Go to Yahoo Japan and see for yourself.

>>280448871
SaKINOto Days won
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gmCvxwqcsw

>>280448922
Both retarded zoomers at the core.

Ah, Mexican cope. I love the smell of it. Also, I'd just copy and paste what I said in the last thread to dunk on you (again).
>>280446539
Selling out some collectible-packed sets in select theaters just proves what we already know:
>Demon Slayer has a loud, early-bird fanbase
You win Twitter hype, cool. Now try converting that into legs at the box office.
>Pre-sales = front-loaded fans, not general audience interest
>Legs and repeat viewership are what make real box office hits.
Mugen Train had that. Infinity Castle won't. Now for the real killshot:
>"Chinese fans really want it"
China won't get the movie just like how they didn't get Mugen Train. And even if it does (it won't), I'm not going to pretend like Maoyan "interest" metrics mean anything until the movie actually drops (it never will) and clears censorship (it didn't). You know what else Chinese fans "really wanted"?
>Black Widow
>Spider-Man: No Way Home
>Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
And they all either never released or got kneecapped in China. You're clinging to preorder merch bundles and click metrics like they're real revenue. They're not, they're just noise. Theaters don't care if a few hundred otaku grabbed an "8-set combo" if the movie gets outpaced by Jurassic World by Week 3 (runtime of 2h14m which is a LOT more favorable than Demon Slayer's 2h35m. 2h14m = 4-5 showings per day, 2h35m = 3 or 4 (if lucky) showings per day). Pre-sales are not profits. They're advance allocations. If the casual audience doesn't show up, it crashes and burns no matter how many coasters or postcard sets the fans hoard.

>>280449243
AND didn't include any attractive muscle mommy.

>>280449307
Fujos got upset.

which way Hori

Hinao will get Lolibaba's Enchanted Blade.

>>280450826
who?

>>280450643
Why are you ban evading?

>>280450833
Hinao: owner of Cafe Haru Haru, Char's babysitter, and future Enchanted Blade wielder.

>>280449526
That was original Chihiro, the CHAD. NuChihiro, the fujo, on the other hand, would be sitting with Hakuri watching stars or something even gayer.

>>280450934
how is she the owner of a cafe being this young

The Bachi-banshi B block...

>Subaru has an enchanted kitchen knife
>two sword stands
He will teach Chihiro to dualwield after he forges an enchanted wakizashi

Otr should have been rejected, why are editors retarded?
They rely on surprise hits (KGB, Ruri) or manga with big names attached (Ichi)

>>280450971
Don't worry about it.

I also saw you were coping in the other thread. I'll also dunk on your underage ass here just for extra measures.
>>280445262
>It'll easily make $200M
No, it won't. Not in 2025. Not with that runtime. And not with this market. Mugen Train made $507M under a once-in-a-lifetime perfect storm conditions:
>zero Hollywood competition
>pandemic stimulus checks in Japan
>no Marvel, Pixar, DC, or family films playing
>IMAX domination due to no other options
>deep fanbase obsession + "final chapter"-like emotion
Meanwhile, Infinity Castle:
>2h35m = fewer showings/day = revenue bottleneck
>Week 1: Superman
>Week 2: Fantastic Four
>Week 4: Jurassic World
>Global market in September = box office dead zone (September is a dump month)
>no China release
>no finale hype (it's Part 1 of 3)
>franchise fatigue after annual content drops for 6 years
Reality: This film struggles to break $175M unless it massively overperforms in Japan. And even then, it'll be a steep fall-off from Mugen Train. You're not getting that "with ease." You’re getting that with hope, luck, and theater mercy.
>>280445108
Alright, math time again:
>One Piece Film Red: $246M worldwide
>MHA: You're Next: $32.2M worldwide
>Total: $278M
You're saying a 2h35m non-finale middle installment is going to match and exceed a musical shounen juggernaut and another big IP's fourth movie?

Nope. It won't even sniff that number. Demon Slayer will be lucky to match OP Film Red and that was a tight 1h55m standalone with a pop music angle, not the first of three war arcs with declining emotional pull.
>you have to consider how much KnY grew internationally since then
Yeah? Funny. Because:
>Mugen Train did $507M
>Swordsmith Village did $56M
>Hashira Training did $44M (only $13M of that outside Japan and US)
So where's that "growth", exactly? That's regression. The IP is bleeding casuals, and Aniplex knows it. They're stretching 47 manga chapters across 3 movies hoping the fans don't wake up. It's not growing. It's fading out.

>>280451104
traitor

>>280451050
>enchanted wakizashi
That enchanted wakizashi's name? Kuregumo.

>>280450927
I dunno man, why are you ban evading?

>>280451174
Only after she gets her Enchanted Blade! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlOi8Nxwnrg&list=RDOlOi8Nxwnrg&start_radio=1&ab_channel=NoTolerance

>>280450958
Still manlier than Ichi.

>>280451261
Fucking Ruri is manlier than Ichi

>>280451261
ichi the witch more like ichi the AIDS riddled FAGGOT AHAHAHAHAH BOYKISSIN AAH JAPANESE MALE GEG

>>280451221
who was the traitor in bleach?

>>280451509
Ishida until the final final arc

>>280451509
Gin betrayed Aizen
This is like if Samurai betrayed Yura because his childhood crush was almost killed by Yura

>>280451572
>his childhood crush
I've always thought Rangiku had a crush on Gin and Gin looked at her like a sister instead

>>280450232
facts, imma bust rn

>>280451656
cute duolingo bird

>>280451141
So is our date to the Demon Slayer movie cancelled then?

what a chill thread

>>280451701
I know right

what in the Dan Schneider

>>280450731
Fuck Horikoshi, bring back Furudate instead

>>280451794
He's so cool....

>>280451084
It's funny Kawaguchi is another artist who can easily slam Nue in the ecchi department but chooses to do shitty video-game tier adventure instead

>>280451928
Akane is one lucky fiancée

>>280449683
so he can wreck shiba's car again? kino

>>280451996
please end already

>>280450731
He already made a manga on par with those on the right, can it get any worse?

KGB BROS DID WE WIN?

>>280450958
chihiro can drive while hakuri has his head on chihiro's lap

>>280451996
Kino. Gas. Aura. Heat. Tuff.

>>280450731
This doesn't even make sense since Hori already had two flops prior and Witch Watch is far from a success considering its selling worse than all of his previous works.

>>280452087
>chihiro can drive while hakuri has his head on chihiro's lap
*Chihiro can drive while Iori gives him a footjob
Ftfy

>>280444999 (OP)
When's someone going to dump this weeks CP?

>>280451141
kinometsu warped you

>>280450731
Hori is going to get axed easily

>>280452963
No he isn't. He has a cult following like Nishi who will prop him up no matter how terrible his new series is.

>>280447607
oh yeah icehead gill was a thing

GCP when?

>>280452536
>this weeks CP
ask Watsuki

oricon out

>>280453165
Post it

chad clover won

>>280453165
KEK KGB BROS

>>280452071
>peaked at volume 4
yeah. i knew it
bring back Souya kino, now!

kgb did 40k

>>280453258
>Spoiler
Soon

>>280453165
>oricon out
KGBros....

557960 (3)2025/07｜ONE PIECE 112
**52315 (3)2025/07｜Kagurabachi 8
**48604 (3)2025/07｜Ao no Hako 21
**20761 (3)2025/07｜The Young Master Who Ran Away 21
**17978 (3)2025/07｜Witch Watch 22
**10160 (3)2025/07｜Nue no Onmyouji 10
******* (*)2025/07｜Super Cruise! Choujo Senpai 6
******* (*)2025/07｜Astro of Wishes 6
******* (*)2025/07｜Kiyoshi the Exorcist 4


**60596 (3)2025/07｜Dandadan 20
**53011 (3)2025/07｜Chainsaw Man 21
**40599 (3)2025/07｜D.Gray-man 29
**35150 (3)2025/07｜BORUTO -TWO BLUE VORTEX- 5
***6777 (3)2025/07｜Shibatsuki Property 4

>>280451656
What’s the kanji for her name?

>>280453399
What was KGB 7 week 1?

>>280453438
55925

>>280451261
This has to be an edit.

Ex-Kiyoshi hater fucks with Political KGB

>>280446588
>>280446678
>>280446715
>>280446786
>>280446840
I hate how mangatubers and their horde of slopper think they have inside knowledge on how Jump and other publishers operate just because they read Bakuman.

>>280453470
>thousands fujos dropped it
its over...

>>280453399
>557960 (3)｜ONE PIECE 112
617218 (3) ｜ONE PIECE 110

the drop continues for one piece, soon it won't be able to crack 1m in a year.

>>280453602
damn, a literal 600k sales drop from one piece volume 104 (which did 1 168 821 in 3 days.)

>>280453602
Wouldn't it still be the biggest manga in the world?

>>280453650
>600k
610k* to be exact
>>280453658
Well yes it won't matter if they keep printing 3.2 million out of every volume, circulation won't be affected. but it'd look more and more fake

Elbaf can't be that bad among the nips, can it?

I mean. At least it's showing more relevant stuff than what Egghead did

>>280453734
Egghead has the more popular characters. No one cares about the giants by comparison

>>280453734
Wano fucked one piece in the ground

>>280453734
Wano killed the momentum.

>>280453734
One Piece is just powerscaling at this point, all the big reveals revolve around it so non-battlefags are burning out on it. It used to be the shonen for people who didn't care much for the fights or agendaposting.

>>280453399
top 10 weekly (total by series)

>>280453881
>top 3
lets go KGB bros

>>280453734
Egghead had the canon rape though. It's more exciting than some BB's ugly dad

>>280453881
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE! BACHIBROS, OUR FUCKING ANKLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE!

>33./ Takopi #1 (9,074 / 588,734)
>35./ Takopi #2 (9,005 / 546,308)
since he is coming back, what kind manga do you want him to do

>>280453399
>**52315 (3)2025/07｜Kagurabachi 8
>**48604 (3)2025/07｜Ao no Hako 21
KGB already outselling manga with anime

>>280453049
You now remember Samurai 8

>>280454009
Anime boosts run out so fast now

>>280447141
you forgot one

my heroes

>>280453994
He already proved that he is a one-trick pony, Ichinose was basically Takopi without Takopi.

>>280454259
Where is Misaka?

>>280454346
raped by Hishaku

>>280454346
getting aurafarmed by accelerator

What the fuck is Takopi?

>>280454502
takopi my pants
hehehe

>>280454502
TAKOyaki

>>280453994
He is going back to jump+, no way he tries again in the magazine

>>280454540
He could do a short, 30 chapters series, he cant do long series for shit

>>280454259
imagine losing to a moba-ahh supporter.
We don't see a tank or carry in action yet.

>>280454346
Already assassinated

>>280449307
>he
Author is obviously a woman that hates drawing fanservice when being forced to

>>280453413
Just search chiyou mythology

extreme amounts of kimetsu collabs in Japan right now

>>280450232
If KDG survives, I can see the author being forced to draw wsj heroines collab CP

https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/weekly-monthly-yearly-oricon-comics-light-novels-ranking.3000431/page-31
it's out

>>280454852
KGB won

>>280453881
Awfully low for DDD despite anime.
No backlog?

>>280451084
Can say the same about this batch's sport series

01. ONE PIECE: 577,901
02. DAN DA DAN: 83,041
03. Ao no Hako: 67,489
04. Kagurabachi: 67,305
05. Jibaku Shounen Hanako-kun: 64,346
06. Hikaru ga Shinda Natsu: 61,693
07. Chainsaw Man: 57,652
08. BLUE GIANT MOMENTUM: 56,965
09. Blue Lock: 52,173
10. D. Gray-Man: 41,475

>>280448788
That ping pong

>>280454884
the backlog was in the 300's and 400's
That's shit tier boost

She pings on my pong til I peril

>>280454194
>Hiyuki
Soon + 2 more weeks.

>>280454950
Yea OP is bagging this year's Oricon unless KnY comes out of nowhere

>>280454960
HNNNNNNNNNNNG!

How's KGB's backlog doing?

>>280455014
They sold 15k last week.

>>280455001
Depends, boost might get bigger or we might get a dark horse. It won't take much to take oricon's top imo
but for now OP is likely

how are sdfags on 2ch?
on life support?

why did kgb thread die?

>>280455082
I don't think anyone aside from OP is hitting 4 M at this point. DDD is probably getting another 800k-1 M until the end of the year, but not enough. Maomao is not there. Frieren is gone till January. BL is also not there.

>>280455106
No Tafuku.

>>280455106
The first thread WON a bit too fast

>>280455102
He was confident KGB wouldn't even break 50k and now he's moving the goalpost

>>280455139
roru
rumao even

>>280455174
Sushi strong

>>280455204
Misaka*

>>280455174
Last chapters leak/official release thread hit 700 if I remember correctly.

>>280455168
>Bachi's sales are overtaken by Ichi in just three volumes! Bachi that isn't overtaken has a different paper color, so it's in the double digits! Bachi, which is ranked second that week, will never reach 50,000 in its initial sales! It does reach 50,000,
>what's with this one-off retard, trash?

>>280455174
some of it were from loliscat tbf

>>280455257
bread?

>>280455260
Loliscat got cleaned up so it didn't add to the final post count.

>Top 1 oricon 2021: 30 m
>Top 1 oricon 2022: 12 m
>Top 1 oricon 2023: 10 m
>Top 1 oricon 2024: 4.6 m
Top 1 oricon 2025 about to be 4 m too
Grim. Everything is dying.

>>280455288
People are just shifting to digital

>>280455288
2024 was 7.6m

I liked the fact that we never got the full Sojo backstory.

7m-10m has been average oricon for years before kny. It's normal
this year its way below average tho
There's no big hits publishing they all ended, so its kinda expected.

>>280453734
I doubt Oda could make an arc more boring than this one even if he tried

>>280455347
El Hermano will give it to us.

>>280455321
Japan already shifted to digital post-covid. It's been at least 3 years since then, mate.
The market is obviously declining.

what is she reading?

>>280455430
OG Anya x Damian

>>280455321
If that 30m physical turned into 26m digital we'd surely have oricon digital sales numbers by now
The cold reality is that most of those buyers are gone and the market in its entirety has shrunk significantly

>>280455102
Funny how KGB and SD have consolewars on 2ch but not on here, wonder why that is.

>>280455489
Those 30m were for JJK
jjk ended
99% of manga didn't sell that much, your issue basically lies on the fact there's no new big IP nor ongoing new big IP to sell tons. Everything ended and what we have are trash

>>280455491
>2ch
5ch, and SD actually has readers on 5ch

>>280455540
if JJK continued for example and released 2 more vols, it'd rank top 1 with 6m+

>>280455491
SD has no fans here after 'people fight' raped its reputation

>>280455491
>wonder why that is.

>wsj manga isn't even making money off twitter
wtf

Why did we stop having pitting new manga up against each other? That was fun.

>>280455540
>there's no new big IP nor ongoing new big IP to sell tons
They've been trying yet nothing sticks.
Next week K8 is gone with a fart too. Next year might only get 3 m oricon unironically if OP releases its latest volume this November.

>>280455657
non of the new series are doron vs ayaSHITmon tier

>>280455288
it was one piece on top with sales like 10-15 million for many years before 2019 when demon slayer exploded, which set off a little boom for JJK and Tokyo Revengers. Now it's pretty close to back to normal except One Piece has kept deteriorating and Oda can't get many volumes out either.

>>280455600
Our HEROES....

We are in dire need of some objectively bad manga that we could shit together every week like Earthchild or TPGW.

>>280455745
>TPGW.
The plagiarism manga?

>>280453734
maybe people quit because of egghead?

>>280455718
Normal was 8 m. It's only gonna hit 4 m this year. Probably next year too because I don't see Frieren the Hiatus beating its 2024 numbers.
It got cut in half. Nothing normal to it.

>>280455745
>Kiyoshi
>Otr
>Ekiden
>Sakamoto (we already shit on it every week)
There's options but the energy isn't there to hate on most of these

>>280455783
The Vegapunk speech and Five Elders fight dragged a lot but Egghead was very solid

>>280455787
I don't know what's up with authors that publish for the first time and it becomes a hit then they get ill?
like togashi pumped up 25+ volumes before his back got hurt

>>280455756
Yup. We had some real fun back then during its run.
>>280455813
Those are just boring, but not stupid and irritating like Earthchild for example.

BACHI HAPPY MEAL SOON

>>280455989
Those happy meals better include sushi.

>>280455989
in 5 years maybe

>>280453602
>>280453734
According to 5ch
>youtubeでワンピ叩きが再生回数稼げるのは人気がある証！とか言われてたが
ちゃんと実人気も落ちてたんだなって
>It is a sign of popularity that one-piece bashings on Youtube can get a lot of views! but I guess the actual popularity was declining as well.
Basically one piece is getting shat on by the day due to oda recent writing
I don't know why they didn't shit on it from timeskip but i guess egghead was the breaking point?

>>280445584
and then Yoshida went to become EiC of Jump Dying Veteran Nursing Home

>>280456086
One Piss bros

>>280456086
>I don't know why they didn't shit on it from timeskip
Mate it was 2010
Adults were shitposting on NND and kids were none the wiser

>>280455745
Isn't that people running?

>>280455989
>Kuro, Aka, and Nishiki as Happy Meal toys.

>>280444999 (OP)
All these years and yet I still don't know what this manga is called l, something something black butler?

>>280456346
It's a bull's manga. basically the MC there fucks all the MHA girls

>>280455657
a certain schizo ruined the practice

Manga sales are just gonna keep going down every year atp, its not even the individual series that are the problem anymore. Shifting to digital, Japan being a broke fucking nation that is now poorer than even Spain, pirating shit online are all contributing more and more to the decline of manga sales. WSJ gotta get on top of it and monetize online shit ASAP

>>280456480
Population's also shrinking which only furthers the decline. Physical manga is never gonna disappear but it will become a shadow of its former self.

>>280453734
it's probably one of my favorite arcs so far but i feel like shonenspics may find it boring. all those niggers care about are FEATS and powerscaling

>>280456480
>>280456521
What is this retarded cope> just three years ago we hit one of the biggest oricon years and thats after covid and inflation.
there's just no interesting manga, nobody is going to buy kiyoshi or sakamoto

>>280456523
>all those niggers care about are FEATS and powerscaling
But Elbaf is doing that kind of thing right now.

>>280456523
I am talking about on general desu, all mangas have shit sales now, you can see the decline in the entire manga industry

>>280455989
>Mcdonalds family bachi sword draw memes
>then chihiro as mcdonald employee shitposting
>now McDonald marketing director is a bachibro

>>280456583
Who are you talking to?

>>280456480
I just checked some stats
>Japan has now a smaller gdp per capita than Spain who itself has a smaller gdp per capita than Slovenia
>Japan is now a smaller economy than even India, sitting at 5th biggest economy in the world
Kek. Imagine staggnating for 30 years this hard, gonna son be a smaller economy than Bongland soon

man, what happened to ichi.
i dont remember early iruma being THIS gay.
is it the art perhaps, that's doing it?

>>280456633
Japan gonna have to open its borders soon, total indian immigration

>>280456588
This gets us one step closer to Kaguraland btw.

>>280456567
While that is true, that was COVID where people don't do anything else besides spending on animu, vtuber, gacha, manga and food
Pretty sure you can check gacha and vtubing trends and they're all down by a lot too compared to 2020-2021 boom.

>>280456691
Horrifying

>>280456702
that was 2 years after covid
what are you talking about
sales only declined this year, last year and 2023 were fine

>>280456702
Vtuber viewership on twitch is now complete fucking ass compared to even just 2 years ago in 2023. I genuinely think that Japan getting so much poorer over the last 5 years and inflation being through the roof is effecting these entertainment industries hard, not as much disposable income anymore

>>280456719
Covid ended in 2022 bro
Even if you don't consider 2022 as that, the manga that sold then were COVID boosted juggernauts like SxF (anime during covid), JJK, TR, K8

>>280456706
That or actually 15th century style forcing femoids to have children. Japan is a net negative a whooping 919K people last year, or approx 0.8% of its population in a single year, this isnt even some doomsday scenario anymore, this is total ethnic suicide

>>280453399
>**52315 (3)2025/07｜Kagurabachi 8

>>280456762
movie box office is running %10-15 ahead of 2023 btw

>>280456825
>this is total ethnic suicide
Mass importing Indians is the true total ethnic suicide.

>>280456841
2024*

>>280456086
hmm. wano was the biggest offender, you dipshit nippon.
wano will bring back the glory they said, it will surpass KNY they said.

>>280453399
>still losing to CSM
bachifags are on suicide watch

>>280456836
One Piece is also low. DDD and BB have no backlog despite anime. Chenso is Chenso.
Everything is dying kek

>>280454884
DDD was never good to be begin with
Its incomprehensive writing with a people.fight plot, the weirdshit artstyle that make every character appears unattractive... Not just weebs but normalfags would find it hard to read

>>280456635
Nishi got into omegaverse

It's just people are dropping out f the never ending milking
Oda has played the "ENDING IN 5 YEARS" for 28 years by now. So I'm not sure it'll even work

>>280456852
Its both desu

>>280456925
>Oda has played the "ENDING IN 5 YEARS" for 28 years by now. So I'm not sure it'll even work
He said ending in 5 years when Wano ended

Egghead was two years and Elbaf is more or less more than a year
Definitely not ending

>>280456480
wsj have jump plus. big hit after big hit since debut (SxF, K8). people claim it will surpass wsj. but, sad after csm went there it become stink and produce 0 hit since. its like youtuber channel change demographic and political leaning, OG reader gone and replace with new reader, who are gooner degenerate.

>>280456943
>He said ending in 5 years when Wano ended
He said it was ending many times by now.
IIRC it was said in 2017 which would have made it end in 2022. But we know how that went

>>280456925
Nigga the spoiler leak of the latest chapter has like 5m views on twitter in a single tweet and the chapter was trending 6th in the US while the whole Epstein saga was going, shit is doing massive numbers in the west, but its just like >>280456886 said, nips just arent buying mangas at all

>>280456480
jump PLUS!!! have huge great start. i dont see any web manga from other shonen making top 10 oricon.

>>280456977
Well they don't even have rice to buy now, why even bother buying manga

>>280456977
The trend didn't peak at 6 it peaked at 10 with less than 10k tweets.
Literally who gives a shit
even my cuckold academia gotten 60k tweets in its "hype" chapters

>>280456221
soft toys or plastic?
i would buy them by the way

>>280456912
>aboshit
gross

>>280456983
Wind Breaker was 12th last year

>>280456346
>something something black butler?
black lagoon duh

>>280444999 (OP)
Based Clover

>>280457013
Nip bluds... our once great economy...

>>280457021
>The trend didn't peak at 6 it peaked at 10 with less than 10k tweets.
keep in mind 50% of trends tweets are also crypto and OF bots

>Manga sales are declining
>Is it maybe because there's no interesting manga?
>No its because of the people refusing to buy
Some of you guys have a bright EiC future ahead of you

>>280456912
>>280457053
is that the one where boys have uterus in their butts? Tell me more, my penis is interested

The fact that WSJ keeps approving nishi autism despite him never making a hit is so retarded

>>280456567
I don't think it's true that there are literally no interesting manga or no interesting stories. Frieren was able to go mainstream when adapted so the stories that manga tell clearly still work, there's just an issue with converting new fans into manga buyers.

>>280457346
Frieren was interesting. It sold 300k+ pre anime and got a good boost relative to its genre.

meanwhile nearly all the WSJ garbage is uninteresting and there's no new SNK or whatever. We only have KGB and Yomi no tsugai so far.

>>280457390
>SNK
I'm still mad.

>>280457390
Yeah but the TV ratings were passing One Piece and Doraemon, despite its genre it was hitting mainstream level so the sales should've reflected that but they never did.

>>280457443
Buddy, Frieren had 7.2 million in circulation at 9 volumes. before the anime
It was always popular
>One Piece
are you seriously comparing a battle shonen to niche fantasy concept like frieren? Frieren has a certain ceiling. battle shonen shit has a higher floor and really high ceiling.

>>280457054
i hope jump plus are not squandered their lead and potential. but we know thats not the case. 3 years w/o hit battle manga.

>>280457295
i think it is yeah
everything i know about abo/omegaverse has been against my will, but i think the bottoms (omegas?) are the ones who get pregnant? also they all go into heat and need to fuck

>>280457471
Anon it broke that ceiling with the TV ratings. A niche series shouldn't get this high but it did because the story was able to appeal far beyond its niche. The sales ultimately never caught up but it other ways it still went past its niche appeal. Again the problem is getting people to buy the manga, people don't have a problem consuming the story in adapted form even though its the same narrative.

>>280457513
I don't think you understand. Conan is also right there but doesn't sell in the millions.
People consume battle shonen the most, and this reflects in sales. Regardless of TV ratings as not everyone watches anime in japan in the first place.

Go look at best sellers and you'll find they're supermajority battle manga. The only one who mogs battle manga is Inoue's sport manga Slam dunk.

>>280457390
and Sunday more in dipshit, dumbass. they didnt have hit either since frieren. not even 10k debut manga.
Magazine dont even have their manga nominated on tsugimanga. thats how dire their online presence is.
compare to wsj who have 3 50k-seller. and multipe exister being nominated.

>>280457600
t.nuerat

Why are you guys fighting between Sunday and jump when they are both own by the same family? They probably don't give a fuck who wins as long as they bring money

>>280457513
based on tv rating and manga sales. the next big trend for manga is female-family friendly-centric. with mao mao and frieren. also SxF.
meanwhile manga for coomer with weird plot and fanservice, like DDD only peak like 160k with backlog.

Ruri would have been huge if Shindo wasn't ill all the time

>>280457568
>I don't think you understand. Conan is also right there but doesn't sell in the millions.
That's what I'm getting at, there's no anime viewer to manga reader conversion. If you want a non-battle shonen yet mainstream example, there's also Spy x Family that was able to hit a 900k-1M first month at one point. Genre isn't set in stone as a hard ceiling or floor, we already had battle shonen that sold as low as 5k during peak covid era.
>>280457694
>the next big trend for manga is female-family friendly-centric. with mao mao and frieren. also SxF.
Yeah I wanted to mention SxF but seeing the decline, we probably won't get another manga hitting its peak in manga sales even with the trend. Only anime viewership is untouched.

One Piece sales dont even matter atp, as an IP it makes more selling Chopper plushies alone than in manga sales. It rakes in too much money for sales to matter that much, it raked in like 700m+ dollars on just merch last year, a personal record for OP. What WSJ should be worried though is how shit the rest of the magazine is selling, KGB is already dropping in sales and it just started, same with everything else. WSJ isnt producing those households names that become big IPs down the stretch anymore, and thats an issue I think

>>280457805
>KGB is already dropping in sales and it just started
Considering the lack of bonuses I honestly expected worse this volume

>>280457805
profits getting lower is a problem nonetheless
Shueisha problem is the lack of meritocracy and its old ruthlessness
Shueisha doesn't mind fucking over a popular IP either (see DB) for some illogical reason.

No oricon thread?

>>280457833
>lack of bonuses
There's a doodle of Itsuo and a younger Samura, but that's it. Somebody should crack Takeru with a whip and have him add a little extra to the volumes.

>>280454194
>>280454259
the true heroine

>>280457744
this too.

>>280457805
>down the stretch
the saying is
>down the line

Guess the WSJ character by their famous quote:

"What a tasty looking child!!!"

>>280458006
Oops, wrong pic!

>>280457987
I mean the postcards they usually do

>>280458006
>Canonically fucked by HIM

>>280458142
KEKugo wishes he was 1/10th of the man Misaka was.

Shueisha needs to return to meritocracy and its old ruthlessness
its not too late to save WSJ

Editors really looked at that sports manga with ugly art and said "Oh yeah this will be our next big sports manga"
The level of incompetence is unreal

That little period of time when a few axed manga got meta about being axed was pretty interesting right? Nice and surreal.

>>280458274
what is sadder? that they have so few applicants they have to pass it or they have lots of them and that's genuinely one of the better submissions?

They're really overplanning the kgb anime. Manga with a sales drought don't usually get a significant boost. They need to announce it fast.

>>280458329
I'm holding my Jump Festa announcement stocks.

>>280458322
Like a cow talking to you before you eat it for dinner

>>280458348
they are waiting for kgbs first anniversary

>>280458354
Kagurabachi is like the only thing calling itself "Neo-Japanese", it's one of those silly editor bits nips love
It's also during KGB's anniversary

>>280458366
>first anniversary

>>280458348
Just look at ddd
>>280458366
it's long past

>>280458355
Or your shit talking to you before you flush it down the toilet

>>280458366
>first anniversary
Anon... it's been 2 years

>>280458401
and fire force
Their boost is not that much

>>280458413
Remember those first threads? I remember them, I wish Charnnibal theory was true.

>>280458376
There's also an issue of WSJ coming out during it

>>280458405
red hood is the only one were it felt like it was the plan all along ro go meta like that

>>280458445
Eh, Time Paradox Ghostwriter was always a manga about making manga, it was always going to be meta. It's funny how the editor who shat on the MC is the only lasting legacy of the series

>>280458433
Vaguely, the only shitpost that stuck with me was Kaguraland

>>280453399
I cannot believe kgb is actually going through a sales drought lmao

>>280458535
and chainsawman still somehow manage to beat kgb again

>>280458354
When is the stage info announced again? If KGB is red it's basically guaranteed

>>280458502
Hard to explain but there's a difference between metafiction and a manga about making manga. In Bakuman/TPGW, you still have a conventional narrative about a guy trying to make it in the manga industry. They don't have anything to say about the nature of narrative, they only offer insight into how the industry works.

>>280458529
>Kaguraland
>Shitpost
It's coming.

>>280458502
And Ayashimon always had the protagonist comment on being a manga protagonist from the beginning, so maybe that was always intended?

It makes it seem like the mangaka purposefully made a shitty manga so they could commentate on it, which is hilarious. Phantom Seer did something like that, where the heroine was a useless damsel who kept getting kidnapped, and so like ten chapters in she gets a super fast training arc to become a fighter, explicitly commenting that she hates being useless, like the author knew people would find her lame. Also, the bonus chapter for that featured the sister whom everybody loved way more than the MC.

When will Otr gain enough hype to become leak worthy? is it just too campy and uncool?

>>280458588
Frankly I have no idea what Ghostwriter was trying to be, what a weird manga. Was it really the in-story plagiarism that got it axed so quickly, or was that a theory?

>>280458632
Just a theory, like how people think shoplifting killed Psych House

The best character in Ayashimon was the serial anal rapist, WSJ could use more of that

>>280458588
I hope Hori comes back with one, he definitely has the experience and it'd be easier on the old man

>>280458661
>shoplifting killed Psych House
But it did

>>280458661
>>280458661
>shoplifting killed Psych House
it did kill it
the heroine is pretty much unsalvageable at that point.

>>280458617
let it go, bruh. otr is done and soon gone.

so is kawaguchi will be the first and only mangaka with 2 U19???
thats special achievement for special guy.

>>280458711
>>280458759
UU would've been U19 then if fucking shoplifting can kill a manga

>>280458785
>so is kawaguchi will be the first and only mangaka with 2 U19???
Not even close, tons of no-names have multiple

>>280458803
wasnt the author sucking off the eic's cock very hard or something?

>>280451953
kill yourself nedicbas

How much longer until the Hishaku are given a lovable mascot?

>>280453399
>checked catalog before coming here
>no oricon thread
Yeah that's how I knew KGB's sales declined again

>>280458583
>f KGB is red it's basically guaranteed
It's already guranateed
KGB is the only bullet WSJ has. and its overdue for anime annoucement. If it comes late next year It'd have 14 volumes or so of backlog which is almost what JJK was at (IIRC jjk released the anime at vol 13 and kny at 15)

>>280458938
I mean if it's not announced before hand

>>280453399
BACHIBROS WE LOST TO CHENSOMAN!?!? AAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>280458401
Anyone that followed DDD through its releases knew the anime wouldn't do much to the manga.
It got so big in the first place because it was stapled to SxF and K8 during Covid. The story ultimately just turns into Scooby Doo and people just dropped it into what you see on your chart there.
It gaining 100k from the anime is testament to how great its adaptation. Once people start reading its source they met the same problem.

>>280458061
The director guy in Act Age

According to Video Research, MLB opening game tops TV program viewership ranking for the first half of 2025
- Estimated nationwide viewership calculated from audience ratings survey -

[Anime]
1st Sazae-san (8.943 million)
2nd Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba/Entertainment District Arc (8.012 million)
3rd Chibi Maruko-chan Special (6.272 million)
4th Detective Conan (6.272 million)
5th The Apothecary Diaries (6.156 million) The

Entertainment District Undercover Arc had an overall average viewership of 8.01 million, comprised of core viewers (6.2%), individuals (5.3%), and households (6.6%).
With that being said, episode 2 of the Swordsmith Village Arc, which ranked higher than this, came in 1st and 2nd in the second half of the year, and that confirms it for annual viewership as well.

■Swordsmith Village Enemy Attack
Core (6.1%), Individual (5.6%), Household (8.1%) Overall average viewership (9-10 million?)
■Swordsmith Village Bonds
Core (7.7%), Individual (6.7%), Household (8.8%) Overall average viewership (10-11 million?)


Keep in mind the RLD has been aired and reaired multiple times by now.

>>280455491
I destroyed SD reputation with people fight

>>280458355
I like the artist's style from back then. Now it's just skinny walking stickmen

>>280458274
Anon, Harukaze will prove to you that even with good art, sport manga can still flop

>>280459418
cross account had sexo girls, i was sad it got axed

>>280453994
Takopi was a covid boosted fluke. This hack will never hold a pen again.

>>280459301
Most likely people wanting a refresher or to catch up before the movie.

>>280458274
It worked for Yowamushi Pedal.

>>280444999 (OP)
Rakuten Kobo Overall Rankings for the First Half of 2025 (All Ages, By Series)
Title
1 Kingdom
2 One Piece (Black and White Edition)
3 Jujutsu Kaisen
4 Medalist
5 Dandadan
6 Frieren's Funeral
7 Only I Level Up
8 The Apothecary Diaries
9 Sakamoto Days
10 Haunts of Terror
11 One Piece (Color Edition)
12 Blue Lock
13 Spy x Family
14 Detective Conan
15 World Trigger
16 My Hero Academia
17 That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime
18 Aoashi
19 A Country Old Man Becomes a Sword Saint
20 Kaiju No. 8


Sigh, where is my Kagurabachi? People buy SD, but don't buy KGB(((

>>280459619
All of those series have an anime, give it time

>>280459442
Harukaze loses to every other Jump label baseball manga with some established popularity.

>>280459619
>6 Frieren's Funeral
>7 Only I Level Up
AOTYbros...

>>280455491
Whenever people talk about SD it's always just
>this panel is so cool!
>this asspull is so wack!
Unless there are some very dedicated fags who keep forcing discussions there's not much to discuss about it

>>280453399
>60704 (3)2024/10｜Kagurabachi 4
>52315 (3)2025/07｜Kagurabachi 8

I'm falling, falling, falling down.

Strongest Nue character that Chihiro can beat in a fight?

>chapters have over 400k views on mangaplus despite months long breaks
>tabata doubles down on bringing the HYPE
>3 chapters at once next issue and color and tribute art by other mangaka
BC will not be ending any time soon.

>>280459875
YEP YEP WE"RE WINNING BLACK CLOVER CHADS

>>280459619
Rakuten has partnership with Oricon for E-book/digital platform so this is redundant
We need Honto, booklive, etc. instead

digital for wsj is less than 20% of total circulation
we've already seen this for JJK
digital matters more for non WSJ series
Your 30k axebait isn't selling 200k digitally bro

>>280459875
Why relegate it to a C-magazine instead of putting it on Jump+?

>>280459806
it's owarida

>>280459964
The only way we're seeing this again is if the chinese go crazy over another JP manga like they did for DB (Dragon ball is estimated to have sold ~400M+ there in bootleg copies)

>>280459806
Unironically what went wrong? Th earlier volumes got a boost because of the memes that seeped into japan?

>>280459955
Jump+ still has a certain amount of series limit so they can retain the competitiveness.
Tabata has immense pollen allergy and his family was dying last year so he needs longer breaks.

What do you think is KGB's ceiling post anime? I'm thinking kaiju 8 tier at the very best.

>>280459935
More like people don't know Oricon already counts digital stores kek
Not everything, but you can see the difference on stuff like CSM which ranks lower on Shoseki but higher on Amazon.jp, then it has a 5k increase on Oricon

>>280460043
Yea also oricon added mappa store recently
so mappa anime BD sales will be more accurate now

>>280459955
Because it's simply not popular enough to be on J+ and it's clearly a series agonizing towards its end

>>280460199
Most Popular English Chapters on Manga Plus in 2025

1. 814,157 : Boruto TBV 21
2. 695,569 : Chainsaw Man 193
3. 649,987 : One Piece 1138
4. 530,797 : Dandadan 182
5. 489,926 : Black Clover 378

>>280460300
>#1
>Boruto
cringe

>>280459979
First reason:
>It had strong beginning+memes and western buzz that helped it through Manga plus and J+, then vol4/5 had their culmination overlapped with Tsugimanga victory. It created the perfect storm for vol4/5, that is slowly going away as vol6's 5th week has already been weaker than vol5's 5th week. This downfall continues into vol7 and vol8.
Second reason:
>Current arc. Hardcore fans may say whatever they want, but it's evident that this arc is less exciting and engaging for a broad audience than the previous two. There is less hype and less activity in comparison to what was happening during Rakuzaichi.
That downfall could have been prevented and numbers - increased even - if Hokazono made it less long and used side characters people attached to better.
Although I think it fell less hard than it could (and should).

>>280460043
Isn't that because shoseki is still just estimates
The numbers from shoseki are calculated with a program

MOST VIEWED 1ST CHAPTER ON JUMP PLUS

1. One Piece (9.941.986)
2. Hunter x Hunter (2.858.672)
3. Sakamoto Days (2.181.786)
4. Black Clover (1.862.451)
5. Ruri Dragon (1.511.406)
6. The Elusive Samurai (1.181.644)
7. Blue Box (1.066.086)
8. Kagurabachi (698.397)
9. Me & Roboco (643.173)
10. Witch Watch (588.254)
11. Burn the Witch (469.159) - Trial
12. Akane-banashi (461.540)
13. Ichi the Witch (391.539) - Trial
14. Shinobi Undercover (276.773) - Trial
15. Kill Blue (227.195)
16. Nue's Exorcist (219.615)
17. Otr of the Flame (199.134) - Trial (31 Days)
18. Nice Prison (177.366) - Trial
19. Embers (175.675) - Trial
20. Syd Craft: Love is a Mystery (167.763) - Trial
21. Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi (165.324) - Trial
22. Hima-ten! (151.957) - Trial
23. Star of Beethoven (140.773) - Trial

>>280459979
Very simple. KGB got any traction at all because there was literally NOTHING else around at the time. Everything has ended/was ending. Now there are better options available and KGB's 5 second of fame are over.

>>280460338
I also think kgbfags has nothing to sperg about as it's obvious that with anime the sales will be boosted very well, because the first season would be the locomotive of amazing scenes episode after episode.
Unless of course anime studio will somehow fuck it up or manga will go to shit by that moment.

>>280460340
Shoseki has never had online storefronts like Amazon and Rakuten included
You can check Oricon and Shoseki about pages

>>280460300
holy shit mhacucks lost again

>>280460435
>ESL
>copium
kek, the SEA KGBT cord woke up

>>280460300
umm black clover chads? we winning?

WE WUZ SHIINUCHI AND SHIEEET

>>280460342
That's bullshit btw I have the app
CSM first chapter was viewed 10m+ so this list is BS.

>>280460300
Ok and? Western fans are a drop of piss in the ocean. Besides controversies are known to cause a lot of interest

>>280460550
t.mha coper

>>280460550
>Western fans are a drop of piss in the ocean
30+ millions of circulation from western fans by the way

>>280458121
Yeah, without those they're definitely losing out on all the megafans who buy like 5 copies just to get multiple postcards. Guess it means more people really have picked up the series

>>280460584
30m from worldwide countries all over the world its nothing
Until WW outnumbers japan in sales 2:1 or 4:1. Then it'd matter.
which isn't looking likely with how things going worldwide imo (too many shit too list)
and this is just for mainstream shit, non jump manga will take decades to sell this amount WW unless they're a big name (ie berserk)

https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/237315041/#q237323881
>>Sakamoto
>Selling 70K isn’t carrying the magazine
WAS HE RIGHT?

Remember when some people thought sakamoto was the next JJK? kek

>>280460645
Those replies are sad in retrospect. TMS did it dirty.

>>280460625
>>280460584
>>280460550
why is japan manga sales so much higher than worldwide btw? it's not like manga are a small thing worldwide either, whenever i go in a book store i'm sure to find manga in there, even if I go to some convenience store i can find them

>>280460584
MHA???

>Failed to become the next SxF
>Failed to become the next JJK
What trend will Suzuki chase and fail in next?

>>280460694
It was tiny as fuck until covid, and that boost is dying.
>Why
nobody wants to buy manga, even in the west most people buy it for "collecting" not actually reading. If you're a fan you've already read the volume contents a year ago. It's also expensive for kids to buy all the volumes, so its mostly manchildren in the west who buy and collect manga.

>>280460694
It's a normal cultural thing for them and it's much cheaper and more accessible in Japan. They grow up reading WSJ which is full of manga and costs them $2. The way their society is set up it's much easier to buy books, too.
You don't have to go to a bookstore or anything, just go to the convenience store which is literally a short walk down the block. Kids can do it on their own.

>>280460694
Only MHA has ever used that on its circulation to be fair. There's also the problem that people buy knockoff versions "publishers" print themselves.
If Slam Dunk, Dragon Ball, Naruto used worldwide circulation too I'm pretty sure they'd be way, like WAY more.

>>280460645
>ヤシャツバキ
https://imgur.com/a/1xr9BiC

Genki Ono, I owe you an apology, I wasn't familiar with your game.

>>280460718
>It's also expensive for kids to buy all the volumes, so its mostly manchildren in the west who buy and collect manga.
you know that kids do have parents right?

>>280460756
DB and SD espeically so, bootleg literally number in the hundreds of millions in SK and china
they were hugeeee back in the 80's and 90's
but shueisha would never count them as they're not official (unlicensed)

>>280460718
>>280460737
These are murrica-brained answers
Manga are extremely easy to find and cheap in Latam, SEA, China and friends, and places like Frogland

>>280460793
There's no other country beside the GREAT USA

>>280460793
Yeah yeah eslfag, no one cares

>>280456086
Where the fuck were they during wano? That arc was the shittiest arc ever.

>>280460841
Editors cannot say no to oda anymore so his retarded pacing and ideas go through without any disagreement

>>280459780
I can't be bothered to actually care about the plot after Uzuki's motivation/master plan got revealed

https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/259278806/#q259289642
>I fell down the Genki Ono rabbit hole. Did you know he replies to fanletters with art of the Full Drive's heroine?

I just saw this when searching Genki Ono on twitter. This is pretty cool, no wonder he has a loyal fanbase.

>>280460862
The fact that they were ok with the Nika bs was the breaking point for me. Fuck that shit.

>>280460875
A lot of the nips hated that too so you aren't alone

>>280460865
so you're saying i can get free art by genki?

>>280459955
trying to give a boost to the magazine? the goal of jump giga is to give exposure to new talent, but they know not enough people would buy it for that and that's why the covers are always of established wsj series with bonuses for them
mha and jjk had a lot of covers and bonuses but now they're both over

Doron would've 100% survived under Saito. It might even get a lot of CPs like Kiyoshi.

>>280459875
>BC will not be ending any time soon.
because it's in a magazine that only releases 4 times a year
the sovl is gone though

>>280460991
the sovl died after the elf reincarnation arc when the founding tale of the clover kingdom got powercrept making both the first king, the demon, and the multiple other demons existing at the same time look retarded

>>280461028
i'd say it died during spade raid, there was still some embers of sovl during the early parts of that arc but then he started phoning it in more and more as his body gave out
everything with lucius has been sovlless

>>280459979
no more Souya kino

>>280461133
Black Clover completely fell off with Yuno's second grimoire, that's when things started being completely senseless. From there it never recovered, the rivalry is being shoved n readers' throats never before, they constantly try to hype Yuno but nobody likes him, everyone gets power-up out of nowhere, timeskips everywhere, fucking not Japan and Tabata repeating the elf saga without the charm

>>280461401
yuno is top 4 in popularity poll retard

>>280461475
For a rival/deuteragonist, he is a flop.

Like, does he even have a figure?

>>280461507
>Like, does he even have a figure?
I believe only Asta has a fig. The rest of BC barely has the standard merch. Fucking UU has figs

>>280461524
Not even the girls? They always get priority in figures.

>>280461524
nakano really went all in on uu

>>280461524
BC has always been more of the case of its popularity outside of Japan is always greater than its homeland.

Obviously, not being popular in its homeland is the bad part

>>280461507
i've seen one but i don't know who the maker is or what counts as official figures

>>280461475
Yeah, after being shilled to infinity and beyond, with Noelle disappearing and the 5th poll mid results reveal showing he was 9th. Currently the shilling reached the level of making even the fucking main character disappeared to hype Yuno
He's a fucking failure, Tabata and his editor love the character too much to realize how much he hurts everything

>>280458329
>Shibuya
>Neo-Japanese
>Worldwide View
Just fucking announce it if you're gonna be that obvious

>>280461574
I unironically manage to saw the Andy and Fuuko figures in my country's anime stores for some reason. Netflix doesn't even have UU for crying out loud

>>280461574
UU was great though

>>280461524
Yuno and Noelle have one but can't recall if Yami has one.

BC has always been super limited in that venue unless S2 marketing changes that

>>280458803
it's dead anon, let it rest

>>280461524
He does have a couple I think? He's behind Asta, Yami and Noelle most of the times for obvious reasons

>>280458842
Nha, it survived because WSJ was in shit waters and had decent sales and fanbase. Still surprised it got rushed to end only to be replaced by even bigger flops

>>280461694
You just gotta take the chance sometimes
Kaede and Harukaze at least seem like they are doing okay

At least you're not WW
>Most of the popular characters are male
>The only ones getting merch are the girls and one of them barely appears in the manga anymore

>>280461694
>replaced by even bigger flops
it sold 20k
its lower than current flops

Why does no one care about My Hero Academia anymore? Was it just a fad?

>they're hosting a kny event at a temple
holy fucking kino

>>280461725
>its lower than current flops
Kek, yeah, no, WSJ would love it to be true

>>280458632
nips are moealist sheep, they need to socially punish bad behavior
but even without plagiarism i feel like tgpw wouldn't have lasted long. they clearly had no clue what to do past the basic premise
what i meant with red hood is that there was foreshadowing about "gods that want ro read a good story" since chapter 1

>>280460338
>>280460435
least obvious esl samefag

why did KGB mindbreak this schizo?

>>280461574
Isn't there a quote from one of the editors that they wanted UU to be in the same level as CSM and KnY?

>>280461831
CSM couldn't even be as successful as Bocchi and every editor would like to publish manga as popular as kny

why is KGB such a flop?

>>280461694
>WSJ was in shit waters
what are you smoking? this is what wsj looked like when uu was starting out
1. Black Clover #242 (Lead Color Page)
2. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #197
3. One Piece #973
4. Dr. Stone #142
5. Haikyu!! #385
6. We Never Learn #150 (Color Page)
7. My Hero Academia #263
8. The Promised Neverland #170
9. Chainsaw Man #61 (Color Page)
10. Undead Unluck #8
11. Jujutsu Kaisen #98
12. Guardian of the Witch #6
13. Mission: Yozakura Family #27
14. Mashle: Magic and Muscles #7
15. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs #198
16. Mitama Security: Spirit Busters #28
17. Act-Age #104
18.Agravity Boys #12
19. Samurai 8: The Tale of Hachimaru #41
20. Zipman!! #13

>>280461818
it's popular, simple as. he thought people talked about it too much and so he dedicated his life to demonstrate the manga is actually bad and unpopular.
that's why he cries about every single plot point and cheers for every possible number that shows a slight decline, then has a melty everytime there are good news. he literally clings to everything he can grab. like a wsj cover where chihiro is slightly in the back, for example, which he sees as a big own.
before then he would try to create fandom wars, he tried to make it nue's rival, then ichi's. he used to constantly spam ichi sales as an own "see this manga is more popular". he is so mentally ill he started to machine translate chapters just to show ichi was more popular than kgb. then ichi vol 3 sold less than kgb's vol 3 and he dropped that tactic entirely, pretending he never liked ichi and making ichi talk die on the spot showing it truly was just him same fagging.
no one talks about "kgbt" more than him.

tl;dr profound mental retardation.

>>280458632
>>280461787
I think one of the main issues TPGW that it had was how much they tried to sanitize and whitewash the MC and his actions with making him a nice guy who helps little kids. They could have make him a nice guy who is a flawed person that desperately wanted to be a mangaka and was willing to take the easy route aka plagiarism, because people don't have issues with inmoral characteres otherwise Death Note wouldn't be popular.

>>280461995
Exactly, all the biggest series besides MHA and OP ending with only JJK as a hit
Considering only UU place in the magazine at the beginning is fucking dumb

>>280462037
and it never explained why he is so obsessed with making a manga. bakuman gives time to setup why the duo really wants to make a manga, but we never get anything for teppei
the author having the girl go "ok you can keep it" killed all possible drama as well

>>280462021
He also turns any good news into bad news
sounds like J

>>280461995
>no dragonball
>no slam dunk
>big 3 dead
>OP being shit
yup, it was bad

>>280462068
I miss the daily bakuman threads....

>>280462078
>>280462021
Can't wait till we get an anime announcement and he'll take 1 wonky looking in-between and spam it, calling it bad animation for months

>>280462078
for me it's the growth% chart he spams. which is retarded because all vol8 needs to do to raise the line is to sell less the 7 but by less than 7 did 6.
growth% is a stupid metric no one uses, there is a reason that graph only exists for kgb and it's because it's the only way he could produce a downward line

>>280462092
hey, we have platinum end. that is just as good
r-right?

>KINOshi will get a trophy for reaching 50+ chapters
Shit tasters, your response?

>>280461818
>>280462021
>>280462078
>>280462112
>>280462130
holy fregoli

>>280462130
Genuinely what were they thinking with Platinum End

>>280462021
Both doomfags like this guy and positivefags like the brazilian are pathetic

>>280462191
The only one pathetic on here is Jeremy, he spends 14 hours seething and only takes a sleep break . Probably sleeping on his cum stained keyboard

>>280462191
it's all you, nigger

>>280462068
The worst part, they could give him a backstory that is just "i wanted to be a mangaka to prove my family and peers that i am not a failure for chasing my dream" with that could give some justification for what he did.

Ichi won

>>280462256
...the shilling competition

>>280462256
fair and square

>>280462256
'fraid so

>>280462290
Now show vol 3s

>>280462212
>he is still on that "it's the one guy" train
You are ngmi

chihiro with his wife and daughter

>>280462328
>>280462161

>>280462021
I'm positive I'm doing just one of these things you've mentioned, so it makes you wrong and schizo.

in other news: Superman opening day in japan flopped hard to a movie called "Kokuho" (under aniplex sony btw) on its 5th week! and is 175 mins long.
Superman seats will get raped soon.

>>280461806
Because I got a follow up thought, retardbro...

>>280462359
superman is 129 mins and has all those IMAX and seats, sad.

kgb is trending down, trending down

>>280462359
Snyderjeets won

>>280460043
They don't. Only physical purchase from Amazon but not digital copies

>>280462290
ichisister... don't look...

>>280462359
>Kokuho
Tbf it's a great movie. Well deserved

The fuck is this guy talking about superman movie of all things?

>>280462587
Do you know what "digital copies" from Amazon mean?
A single Kindle promo week for a nobody isekai manga with the entire 10 volumes priced at 10% of its original price and it's already selling more than actual popular manga. This promos happen to everyone.
How do you even count those.

>>280463108
Jeremy thinks Superman will dominate the Japan box office