Thread 280476775

I remember it being hyped up, but than it just disappeared. Was it any good?

if you watch anitubers you need to commit seppuku
also stop using dark theme you tranny

>>280476775 (OP)
>Was it any good?
No.

>>280477064
Dark theme is for based sigmas, light theme is for tranny larpers who desperately want to be white.

>>280476775 (OP)
You do need to kys for watching anitubers thoughbeit

>>280476775 (OP)
>Was it any good?
no

>>280477064
>if you watch anitubers
I dont, i just saw the thumbnail and screenshot it
>stop using dark theme
Sorry, I'm not a pajeet

I remember Toriko (and Magi) too BUT
>eceleb

It wasn't good it was great

>>280476775 (OP)
>Was it any good?
Yes, but not as good as they were trying to push.

easily one of my favourite storytime on /a/. Midora was best boy and Center was best nitro

Buy an ad.

Why even ask if something is good? Do you think /a/ posters are truthful and reliable?

>>280476775 (OP)
>Was it any good?
It had some good arcs but like many long-running shonen manga it suffered from making the story up as it went along. That resulted in unfocused story telling, power levels escalating all the time and some arcs feeling like genuine filler material despite being the source material

>>280478631
This is false. There are multiple instances of things that would be set up and paid off later. Most of the things that seem otherwise are endgame reveals that were cut down due to Jump canning the series due to Toei's atrocious handling of the anime. Plus the only time the power level jumps seemed as crazy as say Naruto War Arc, Namek, or Wano was literally the final arc. Did it have pacing issues at times? Yes. Were there ideas that could have used more time and effort? Yes.
But I still found it more enjoyable genuinely than I did with Naruto and Bleach at the time this was being run in Jump

Manga was fun, the anime wasn't the best adaptation, forced push by SJ caused people to negatively react to it unfairly imo
Shame Build King didn't work

>>280477153
>>280477181
>anon shittalks dark theme
>two retards INSTANTLY leap to "you're not white" and "you're a troon"
Using a dark theme actually means you have incredibly weak eyes.

>>280476775 (OP)
the manga was fun; it had some problems, sure, but not any problems that werent already present in most mainstream series
the main factors that kept toriko from being a success were
>komatsu's general existence
>woefully mismanaged anime

>>280480223
Erm I'm not a retard I scored over 150 on the mensa, and the eye thing has been disproven by multiple studies. Light mode can actually be just as bad for your eyes stop virtue signaling

>>280480465
>Light mode can actually be just as bad for your eyes
Yeah, I wasn't saying dark mode was bad for your eyes retard, I was saying you have WEAK eyes.

It's great if you like giant monsters and badass characters even if it got canned early.

>>280480549
real life apes would be much cooler if they had and extra pair of arms

>>280480465
>IQ tests
kek

>>280476775 (OP)
HxH is honorary big 4, it was there the whole time and it's still there

>>280476775 (OP)
Toriko was good for a shounen. It actually had unapologetic MCs and characters that actually killed and manned up barring Komatsu, but he's a different kind of wankery. Anons here have said everything else but I'll more to why it failed.
First off early in the anime, during the Jewel Meat arc, there was an actual product placement that was hilarious bad. That was the first nail in the coffin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI1q0JVxEgw
The second and final nail in the coffin was the end of the 3rd season. They did an anime original ending so bad it actually tanked the sales of Toriko for tankobons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxk6KDIAnAw
From then on Toriko gradually was removed from the front covers of WSJ. Hell, even it's ending proclamation was printed so abysmally small to the right side of the mag. After that, it was like it never existed. Barely any author gave it notice for Jump anniversary except for Murata who snuck some Toriko in his overly large tribute works to WSJ.
Now you know what killed Toriko. It was the business workings of WSJ top heads and editor who forcefully pushed it to the top without it naturally grabbing audiences, a fucking product placement and an anime end so abyssmal by Toei that it cratered Toriko as a whole.

>>280480546
Ok now you're just being mean... i have 20 20 but I am sensitive to light I have to use a dimmer app on my pc monitor to lower the brightness even more...

>>280480600
True people with autism will ace them with ease because it's all pattern recognition and nothing else.

it was a solid shounen manga that got pulled down by a dogshit anime adaptation and eventually received a rushed ending due to the axe

>>280476775 (OP)
>Was it any good?
The manga was, yes. Like "Fairy Tail," it went on a little too long, though. The rushed ending is proof-of-concept when it comes to subscription story-telling.

>>280476775 (OP)
>>280480624
The Big Three refers to a group of manga that achieved immense critical and cultural prestige/acclaim at around the same time heralding a greater interest in anime globally, but particularly within the United States.
Toriko could NOT be a part of that because its anime started in 2011. That's the big factor.

Hunter x Hunter actually COULD have been part of it, but nobody grabbed the license for its anime. In the west it kind of went like this:
>One Piece anime begins in October 1999
>Hunter x Hunter anime begins in October 1999
>Naruto anime begins in 2002
>Bleach anime begins in 2004
>One Piece begins airing under 4kids in 2004
>Naruto begins airing in America in 2005
>Bleach begins airing in America in 2006
[PEAK OF POPULARITY STARTS HERE]
>Pain invades Konoha in 2008
>Marineford begins in the OP manga in 2009
>the unending Arrancar arc of Bleach seems to be approaching a conclusion with Ichigo finally facing off against Ulquiorra and the battle against Aizen ramping up

>Hunter x Hunter's 1999 anime, now severely outdated, begins airing in 2009 in America
>the Arrancar arc finally concludes in 2010
>Naruto's Five Kage Summit arc concludes and the War arc begins at the end of 2010 and beginning of 2011
>One Piece continues on into its timeskip in the 2010s
>the 1999 Hunter x Hunter anime concludes on a cliffhanger as all of this happens
[PEAK OF POPULARITY CONCLUDES]
That was the issue.
Had HxH99 been brought over about 5 years earlier with the additional 30 episodes of OVAs, it probably would've received the same popularity- especially since the peak of popularity point aligns with the Chimera Ant arc nearing its conclusion (and it would in 2011, followed by Election immediately after).
But nobody really cared to license it, likely since it wasn't a digital anime like One Piece, Naruto, or Bleach.

>>280481150
>rushed ending

I'm not really surprised to learn this. When I was reading, it felt there should have been a few more big fights and shit that happened along the way (I definitely thought there would be fights against the Gourmet Executive Chef and Head Chef).

>>280481627
you also have to consider the fact that most of the acadia ingredients got skipped, assuming of course that shima had any plans on making characters other than toriko and komatsu the most relevant ones for entire arcs
one of my slight pet peeves was actually how much stronger toriko seemed to be than the other heavenly kings when they got to the gourmet world

It could have been better towards the end, that underworld cookong tournament dragged so long. But better than most, it stuck the landing.

>>280476775 (OP)
manga was good/great, storytime was S tier, and anime was really mediocre because it got a dogshit studio and budget

Why did he job so hard?

>>280481905
Current Toei would do amuch better job

>>280482400
he used damage knocking as a crutch for most things so he became kind of careless
I guess you could say that he was too strong to win.

>>280476775 (OP)
>"Oda once told Shonen Jump and Toei that his friend's manga "Toriko" was going to be "the next big thing" a multimedia franchise on par with Dragon Ball and One Piece"
>Series was shilled to no end, having 4 crossovers with One Piece with 2 of them having Goku in them even
>Multiple videogames including having up to 3 characters in Jump crossover fighting games
What went wrong? who is to blame for this series failure? of course it has nothing to do with the mangaka being a pedo since Watsuki is doing just fine, so was it the anime being heavily censored? the lack of females?

>>280482400
>>280482602
Wrong. He had built up all the damage over his life as knocking, and acacia just somehow managed to undo all of it. Complete and total asspull.

>>280482757
They pushed it too hard when it hadn't found its audience yet and they ended up not breaking even with the marketing. This made jump lose faith in it and they axed it early as a result.
If they let it have as much time dragonball did, and dragonball didn't become a big thing until Z, then it would have been fine. Look at dungeon meshi's popularity, there' was obviously a market for food-based shonen.

>>280482790
Not really, i assume Jirou was Guiness/Bambina level even with hisknocking, he got his head chopped off Neo, even base bambina survived the same punch.
Jirou was strong but he was no Midora whom i assume had a capture level of around 30k or so and actually only lost due to bullshit

>>280476775 (OP)
I’d say good start, but then he tried to expand the scope way too much while not really understanding how to balance several characters. The grand line version of the world wasn’t really bad, but I can see why it was canned. The ending is great for what it is, a fun final fight that’s a bit stupid in a good way. Never saw the anime, but every clip of it I’ve seen looks like absolute garbage. They definitely tried to shill it like it was the next big thing, but it definitely never reached that level.

>>280482400
His fighting style is too strong to go into the endgame. Technically, he beat the final boss, if not for needing closure. The scene is so stupid with what you learn at the end of the series, so it would’ve been nice to have maybe like a little retcon for that at the end.

>>280484019
No he wasn't, hisknockign could easily be cancelled/reversed by minority world, his durability is shit(below base bambina) and even his strongest attacks couldnt do shit to the likes of base neo, Midora is the overpowered one and he stillg ot bullshited out of a win.
>Jurou used grand knocking on midora
>MW reverses it and hegets knocked instead
>MW reverses the knocking he did on himself and he takes all the damage he stored up against him
>Food luck fuckery by the end of the story made his skill set obsolete as it wouldnt even land to begin with
>the damage that killed Jirou is said to be strong enough to destroy the earth several times over
>Midora and Acacia could spam large planet level punches and dwarf star level enrgy blasts casually in the final fight
It would end like this.

MW is really such bullshit for instance this

>>280484459
Why didn't he use minority world here in order to heal instantly and for all the damage to be deadl to NeoAcacia instead?

>>280480223
Why don't you just look at the sun for 30 minutes, anon, if your eyes are so amazing?

The complete lack of ANY sort of female characters was a huge problem. Like people are still making fanart of irrelevant ass Tsunade and Matsumoto because they have huge tits.
Toriko needed some sort of eye candy character to bait secondaries. Hell, even the shit anime had to add a filler female character because Toriko's world is so absolutely barren of women.

>>280485117
There was Rin

You can't just predict something's going to catch on with people without a massive market research initiative. The anime and merch were out of sync with audience demands, and all of them need to work together to turn a hit manga into a hit series.

>>280476775 (OP)
The anime is fucking trash while the manga is great.
I guess you missed the multiple story times we did of it

>>280481020
>i have 20 20 but I am sensitive to light I have to use a dimmer app on my pc monitor to lower the brightness even more...
NTA but that's explicitly proving his point.
They are weak to light, ANTA BAKA

>>280485355
Ahh yes the girl with 5 seconds of screentime

>>280476775 (OP)
it's better than jjk or mha

not a high bar

>>280485579
You don't need "massive market research" or any of that shit, you just need to take one glance at Komatsu and realise that everyone outside Japan is gonna despise him.

Was Bambina an ape?

>>280477191
Sex with Ruriko's co-workers

Most deserving of a remake. Hell, You can offer the creator to make the ending that he wanted when it reaches that point. Just bring back the gore, remove the filler and maybe keep the soundtrack.

>>280486142
apes don't have tails, only monkeys do

>>280488733
after the abomination that was the FotNS remake that just got announced recently I'd rather if Toriko remained forgotten forever than getting the same monkey paw treatment

>>280476775 (OP)
the anime was more censored than 4kids's One Piece

>>280481294
US went with Yu Yu Hakusho instead which at the time had more mainstream/better appeal for appearing on a network aimed at kids. Original shonen big 3 in the U.S was DBZ/YuYu/Rurouni Kenshin which were all pretty popular just a few years for the new big 3 was up and running

>>280484482
He tried, Minority World couldn't heal his wounds. Neo's black cells can override just about anything in the red, blue, or green universes.

>>280486142
He's a baboon. A ballboon, specifically.

>>280490577
kintamandrill*

funny how the series is filled with shit like this and yet power creep autists completely ignore it

>>280476775 (OP)

Why is no one mentioning the obvious, actual issue? Toriko was never going to reach Big 3 levels because the characters and art aren't appealing to your average normie, simple as. It's gag manga artstyle is too niche for a wider audience. Better story telling or a better anime adaption would have never saved it.

>>280491345
which gag manga looks like this?

>>280491314
Yeah, the final arc of toriko is one of the worst things ever put to a page.

>>280491377

The point is that Toriko's character design is more comparable to something like Bobobo than the Big 3. It doesn't matter if it has le epic page spreads if the character's aren't appealing enough for fan artists to also draw le epic art for it.

It's really just as simple as having a bad anime adaptation. But like >>280489086 said we'd just be asking for it to fail again.

Toei forced it too much.

The author went full pant on head retarded with power level

>I punch you 3 times at once
>Okay
>I punch you 10 times at once
>Okay
>I punch you 100000000000000000000000 times at once
>????
>I punch you infinite times at once
>I imagined i punched you so i already did
>I punch you with super Notkamehameha food energy laser
>I pull plotarmor out of my ass and punch you with it
>O MY THIRD DEMON THAT CAN KILL THE FINAL BOSS WITH A SINGLE FUCKING FINGER OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE

I mean, okay, it is fun, but c'mon son

>>280491806
If only all series could be as based as Shimabukuro.

>>280491502
Fuck ar eyou talking about? OP designs are way goofier

>>280490564
That;s complete bullshit regardless, MW is literally reality warping/causality manipulation via quantum mechanics the excuse for why it didnt work is still retarded

>>280491314
Scale to someof these is wrong

>>280491806
Holy kino