Thread 280494839

Episode 2 today. So why doesn't this have a BL tag on any anime website? I thought the first episode was pretty gay.

This episode should cover THE gayest and best moment in the series, hopefully.

its not gay if its an alien

>>280494903
So this episode is peak faggotry? If I get through it what are the gayness levels for the rest of it?

>>280494839 (OP)
>So why doesn't this have a BL tag
Yuuri on Ice doesn't have one either.

>>280495274
Despite the author trying to get far away from the bl tag and trying to no homo it, the story is basically Yoshiko coming into terms his feelings for "Hikaru" aren't projecting.
And Hikaru is basically a dog discovering real feelings that don't come from the original.

>>280494839 (OP)
>So why doesn't this have a BL tag on any anime website?
It actually used to have it.

>>280494839 (OP)
Because one it's not really a boy as much as an Eldritch abomination so it's not really gay.

Sex with eldritch horrors beyond human comprehension

>>280496312
If he was a cute girl you wouldn't say it's not straight.

>>280496702
cute girls are for yuri, silly!

>>280494903
It was this early? That's the only scene the manga is known for

>>280494839 (OP)
It does?

>>280494839 (OP)
Because it's a seinen

>>280494839 (OP)
>Episode 2 today
Rrrrrun away!

>>280494839 (OP)
The author wanted it not tagged as bl. Bl is too hard of a sell to the mainstream audience, its not like yuri.

Bastards, they killed Hikaru again.

I pass on all sadcore anime. my life is depressing enough.

Kino OP. Same singer/director as ousama ranking?

More cool visual tricks compared to ep1. I hope the source material doesn't shit itself too hard so I can call it aots.

Spooky

If summer rendering had a creeping sense of dread culminating in action this one bounces between lighthearted sol antics and bizzare spooky occurences.

sex with Hikaru

>>280499998
singer yes director no

>>280494839 (OP)
Watch episode 1 today and got jumpscared by gayness and surprisingly relatable feeligns about your firend.
What the fuck is this shit? I don't approve of faggotry.

Episode 2 drops in like 3 minutes, no?

>>280501035
>surprisingly relatable feeligns about your firend.
Anon, you may be in the good place.

>>280501035
Self-hate is corrosive to self-worth, anon. You should be more disapproving of your lack of acceptance.

>>280501035
It's fine the author no homo'd it, Yoshiki will end up with the tomboy after 'Hikaru' dies for good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP7la6a1H1g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dq21OHPJTk

>>280501377
>>280501517
Nah, I am not a faggot, at worst I am tranny adjcanet and would never touch a man with a ten foot pole.
>>280501706
Okay, so it's fine I guess

Yandere Yoshiki is now a possibility. Can't have Higurashi without one.

>>280501734
>Spoiling chapters that won't be adapted
What the fuck did the hack animators mean by this?

>>280496140
Screw that historical revisionism. What prompted MAL to change it? And angry letter from the publisher? Give me a break.

>>280496312
It's not gay for 'Hikaru', but it's gay for Yoshiki to fall for Cthulhu in a male body.

>>280501035
>I don't approve of faggotry.
Now, now, there's no need to be so hostile. Why don't you take a sit right here and relax, you're among friends.

>>280502004
Probably don't want MAGA to raid the site but don't want to yeet it either.

Hope there is a creepy ride at some point.

>>280502007
Okay, I bear intense dislike for homosexuality and especially homosexual individuals.

>>280502104
>MAGA
Since when do they care for anime?

>>280502118
Then why are you in this thread and on this board?

SYMBOLISM

>>280502172
Because I got recommended this anime by a friend of mine who didn't care to mention gayshit and seeing cute anime girls do cute stuff and perhaps some anime twinks have fun is my only joy in life since I hate being a man and am doing my best to collapse inward.

>>280502222
>I hate being a man
Gotta kys first before you become a tranny.

>>280502222
Not in proper English but my head hurts like hell. You get the point.

Is this even possible?

>>280502244
Yeah, I know. Though I am too much of a coward to actually go through with doing it.

This is my
>FUCK THIS SHIT
face.

>>280502272
Obviously? Why wouldn't it be?

>>280502312
You wouldn’t die from that

CUTE

The animation and direction in this show is so fucking good.

>>280502303
Imagine having your dead crush being skinwalked by some eldritch monster.
Imagine falling for it too.

>>280502327
You would. If you shove your hand far enough down not only will you severely damage your throat, you're literally suffocating yourself.

How many fucking ghosts do they have on that mountain

GROSS

>>280502368
>Imagine falling for it too
>Humans are...[dramatic pause] weak.

>>280502399
>How many youkai are there around Natsume's house?!

THIS MUST BE THE WORK OF AN ENEMY STAND

this episode was literally porn

>>280494839 (OP)
>it actually is BL
I hate you all so much.

JESUS

>>280502683
What's wrong, not comfortable with your sexuality?

You're walking through a forest and see this. What do?

IT'S FOLLOWING YOU

>>280502737
look straight ahead and walk robotically forward, pretending I didn't see anything

>>280502683
What, you've never fisted your friend platonically in the gym storeroom?

Is this a form of...voyeurism?

>>280502118
You seem a little tense, anon. You don't need to have your guard up around these parts. Just have a drink and loosen up a bit. Come on, let's enjoy the weekend.

>>280502816
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

THIS FUCKER DRINKS GREEN TEA WITH SUGAR

>>280502877
he's an idolfag who walks around with a hamster cage, of course he sweetens his green tea

>>280502683
It's a competition between bros to find out boss of the gym.

>>280502683
...

>>280502683
You never played gay chicken?

IT MIGHT BE ONE OF YOU

>>280502984
time for a test.

>>280502971
How do you play it?

>>280502984
Sus.

>>280501706
Dropped

>>280503067
you shouldn't just believe everything you read on the internet

>>280503111
You too. I didn't even start watching lol

Yandere mode.

>>280503264
that's only the 5th most yandere line he had this episode.

>>280503351
And they are all great.

YOUR HEART WILL BE MINE

So what is this show even about? Schoolboy terrorized by an amorous, amorphous shapeshifting alien? Who keeps dying Kenny style? Does the alien have a true form/gender/sex like Saya and just happens to be gay, or is it genderless so technically it's not even BL? Why is it attracted to the protagonist?

>>280502683
I love you back, anon.

>>280502844
>>280502864
Losing your virginity on school grounds, wow. Too depraved.

>>280503577
>So what is this show even about?
The power of friendship winning once again.

>>280502644
Yuri!

>>280502816
The face of a man deriving sexual pleasure from getting fisted.

Sucked in.

>>280503633
This doesn't look comfy at all

Ayo this shit gay as fuck

Post-nut clarity.

>>280503861
Picked up.

Low quality webm due to file size limit

God damn this show is well directed

Every Japanese village in anime is full of shitty people, huh.

I'd become a NEET to if I had to live around such people.

The heroine who will save the day and the MC's heart!

>>280503971
/a/ won't care though.

>>280503956
Thanks.

Already making those Shiki anemia faces.

>>280503461
In the Japanese it was like "I'll do something to him so that nothing can steal him away"

>>280494839 (OP)
I think I'm dropping this one

>>280504139
This probably does owe a lot to Shiki

GET THOSE KAIJUU POWERS ALREADY AND JOIN A SUPERHERO SQUAD

>>280494839 (OP)
>Hikaru ga Shinda
Kono hito de nashi!

>your sister is a freaking NEET lmao
>just tell her to get out of bed and go to school already
>why can't your mom raise her own kids properly?
>dad shouldn't have married a dumb outsider
>also, your parents are too loud at night
>my son is cooler than you btw
>those bangs make you look like a hobo

>>280503822
It's a show about comfy life in the countryside.

>>280502984
>The Thing but BL
Why though

>>280503956
Have you tried with mp4 and playing with the bitrate?

>>280504185
I knew this guy was from Shiki, he voiced Tomio.

>>280503822
It's a show about comfy life in the countryside.

>>280504185
>>280504578
Will this show produce anyone as based as the old man from Shiki?

Been a while a non-Shaft show tryharded the visuals.

>>280504542
small town obaasans do be like that

>>280504565
To juxtapose with the Lovecraft yuri this season ig.

his eldrussy game is just too strong

>>280504542
At what point does he sic Hikaru on her?

>>280504730
I like the security camera footage.

>>280504730
Got one for ep1?

kek

>>280504900
There's lovecraft yuri this season too?

The talismans didn't help much, huh.

>>280503956
>1920x1080
Lower the resolution to 720p, anon.

>>280504993
Necronomico Cosmic Show.

>>280504730
This show reminds me of Hiroshi Hamasaki's directing style

>>280505109
The synopsis made me think it was some kind of vtuber shit. I'll have to give it a watch.

>>280505016
Nounuki-sama is just too strong

>>280504542
old people from small towns are downright evil most of the times

>>280505159
It is, it just also has cthulhu yuri.

>>280505217
Aren't all old people evil? They survived so long, that's suspicious.

>>280502683
You've never been kinda homo with your bestie bro?

>>280505294
Much better!

>>280503577
country side horror the best kind of horror

I like this show but I still can't say why though

God the direction is so fucking good.
You just know that if this show featured cute girls it would be talk of the board

>>280500262
Kate Bush?

>>280505608
Two cute schoolboys in love, you don't need any more explanation than that.

>>280494839 (OP)
The author specifically did not want it labelled as BL which I get because that has certain expectations that the actual story here doesn't have.

>>280505923
I call bullshit on that.

>>280504542
SILENCE OBAASAN

>>280505971
It makes sense though. People who pick up works labelled as "BL" expect a lot of focus on feelings, romance and a certain 'vibe'. Summer Hikaru Died doesn't really have those in the manga.

>>280505923
Bullshit pussy move, it's not the 80's anymore, there's over 40 BL magazines (physical and online) and you can literally publish anything under the label.

>>280506107
Yeah, but it drives normalfags away
>oh this looks coo-
>bl
>not reading
Since hikaru has normalfag appeal in general.

>>280494839 (OP)
Really who cares? Why do tags even matter?

Shintan Kairou is scarier and it doesn't even have eldritch abominations, heck most Harada stuff have a heavier vibe to them and they're all BL.

>>280506098
>People who pick up works labelled as "BL" expect a lot of focus on feelings, romance and a certain 'vibe'
Where are you pulling these 'facts' from? Your ass?

>>280506200
>most Harada stuff have a heavier vibe to them
Yeah, but most harada stuff is about extremely toxic relationships riff with classic melodrama.
And the only harada sex scene I've ever found hot enough is the yandere dude with the limp.

>>280506098
I hate this, it's why shoujo died and why Chinese bl is getting more popular since they dont give a fuck about that stupid sort of expectation. People who believe in that sort of thing are just shooting themselves in the foot.

>>280506237
Chinese bl is more popular because it's not 1-2 volume series focused on feelings.
Even the ones that are sol still have a decent length.

>>280506174
Then the same normalfags will complain about being tricked into
>reading/watching homoshit
It's really a disservice to everybody involved.

>>280506312
Once you are tricked into AND like the vibe you are more willing to stick through with it, instead of discarding it immediately based on genre.

>>280506262
Yeah, they don't call themselves "not bl" just because there's a scifi apocalypse ft. mutating abominations plot going on. a Little Mushroom adaption would go hard with good quality direction

>>280506341
Would be about as shit as the original novel.
Melting city would be cool however.

>>280506237
Yeah, I agree.

>it's why shoujo died
I wonder at what point exactly and why the publishers collectively decided to only print romances in shoujo magazines.

>>280506336
Or they will simply decide not to watch any anime that is not based on battle shounen manga again. False advertising is evil, immoral and short-sighted.

>>280506341
I remember how people tried to no-homo No.6 back in the day kek. Another show that is 'not BL', according to MAL:
>https://myanimelist.net/anime/10161

>>280505159
didn't like it, but watching the 1st episode was worth it for the translator's name meme

>killing the manga in an attempt to pander to these people
Was it worth it?

>>280505923
Maybe I just assumed best intentions but I just thought the author didn't want it labeled as BL because it's kind of a one sided love and the story doesn't really focus on the romance. The horror part is the main focus really.

>>280506657
you are mentally ill

I feel sorry for MC and even kinda relate to him but I hope this will end with a total alien extermination. Fuck them.

>>280506746
You WILL cry as he holds a dying gooey abomination in his arms, give it up

>>280506669
Fwiw, there's bl that are one sided. Funny example is pic related.
It probably happens more in bl than it does in other genres desu.

>>280506669
How is it one sided? the original Hikaru died and "Hikaru" loves Yoshiki, and Yoshiki always loved Hikaru.

>>280506879
BL side was really good. Only time I've seen that kind of relationship properly depicted.

>>280506904
Hikaru is canonically incapable of having romantic feelings

>>280506904
I didn't think that "Hikaru" actually loved Yoshiki, I thought he didn't understand what that actually meant since he's not really human.

>>280501750
>tranny adjacent
>not a faggot
>>280505690
It would also be worse because the shameful gay parallel would be lost because girls experiment way easier than guys because man-gay is way less accepted than woman-gay.
Threads are also better because of the soft-BL filtering the tards.

>>280506921
He's trying his damn best to figure out his feelings for him.
They are the closest he can have to romantic feelings, which is "good enough"

Modern BL doesn't need the characters ending up together, look at Nakamura-kun which is also getting an adaptation, the MC never got together with his romantic interest, if anything he got cucked.

>>280506921
>>280506938
Romantic love is almost exclusive to some species in the entire planet, why should some alien monster figure out his exact feelings? heck even Parasite had Migi figuring out he/she loved Shinichi, but it doesn't mean romantic love but love in general. It's a very common trope gay asian series, and you can easily adjust your feelings without having to label them.

>>280506657
Where is this from?

>>280506669
So any action comedy show that focuses more on action than on comedy should be labelled as 'action' only according to your logic? Same for any other genre mix.

>>280506969
Sleeping Dead is another good one sided case. Also Color Recipe by Harada, I liked the desperation in that one.

>>280507043
Alien wants to get fisted (and enjoyed it) but somehow is incapable of romance?
Hell even the ghosts(?) are lonely. Even if the alien is manipulative and possessive isn't really to say all of its actions are fully the result of ulterior motives.

post fanart

This is the best horror show in years, homo regardless. I'm so starved off horror anime I actually rewatched Mayoiga.

>>280507060
Color Recipe is peak, I reread it from time to time, I recommend the Drama CD because the VAs fit the characters perfectly. Also, Happy Kuso Life has the MCs enjoying their perverted side without compromising and they mentioned having girlfriends and sex with women in general. BL nowadays can literally do anything, and everything.

>>280506746
>total alien extermination
Repent, fascist. And get fried in a taiyaki machine just like this faglord.

>>280506921
As long as he can feel lust, it's homo.

>>280507266
Mayoiga is a comedy, not horror. Same for Another.

>>280507274
>As long as he can feel lust, it's homo.
He can't feel either

>>280507286
With Shiki and Pet Shop of Horros it's time to accept homos just make the best horror shows.

>already adapted gayest scene
It's all down hill from here

>>280507235
Wish granted.

>>280507266
>I actually rewatched Mayoiga
Whoa, hardcore. Which memes were the most nostalgic to you?

>>280507052
>Where is this from?
2ch

>>280507357
Sad.

>>280507433
>Toshiaki
Is this a samefag spammer?

The op song is actually pretty boring for a Vaundy song

>>280507060
I loved baldy. I need more autists like him.

>>280507538
No lol everyone is Toshiaki in 2ch

>>280507538
Yeah he goes by "Anonymous" here on 4chan too

>>280507667
The famed hacker known as Antonymous?

>>280507550
she's unironically one of my favorite authors. I hope there are more like her subverting bl expectations in the fututre

is this yuri

Are they going to be ok?

>>280507803
Rest assured, it's as yuri as Yuri on Ice was.

>>280506336
If I am tricked into watching\reading yurishit like hell am I going to stick through with it, I'll drop it and never pick anything from those authors again.

>>280507831
>>280507833
We share the same braincell friend.

That was a little upsetting and I usuallly don't get scared with horror anime.

>>280507052
>So any action comedy show that focuses more on action than on comedy should be labelled as 'action' only according to your logic? Same for any other genre mix.
Well, no, I personally believe you should label something as thouroughly as possible so that people know what they're getting into. I'd label this series as BL if I was the one making the decisions. I was just trying to imagine what the author is thinking.

>>280507875
I can sympathise. If I don't want romance and a show introduces a love triangle or harem(bait), it just pisses me off. Especially adaptations of self-insert web/lightnovels are full of stealth haremshit despite not being labelled as such. Another reason why I gave up on watching web/lightnovel junk altogether.

>>280506969
Nakamura-kun isn't over the author is sick as fuck though, probably cancer since her dumbass was a smoker.

>>280507803
Yes

>>280507424
This scene turned me on more than most sex scenes do when I originally read it in the manga, is that weird?

Okay, how gay does this get? Because it was weird as fuck, which is good and gay as fuck which is bad.
I like watching a dude jerk off some yokai, but if it gets much gayer I'll have to call quits

>>280508086
This is the gayest it will ever be, sadly. You're safe for now.

>>280508113
Okay thanks. It looks promising, perhaps the best of season if it keeps up the atmosphere.

>>280508086
See >>280507357

>>280508007
It's now eaten and digested.

>>280507893
Or assume I'm stalking your online activity lel.

>>280508073
You've just developed a new fetish.

>>280508073
Have you read Madk?

I'm getting Sweet Pool flashbacks, and I didn't even play it, or watch this show for that matter. And Tamayura flashbacks... And flashbacks of that one super obscure BL vn about a bunch of mutant freaks who escaped from a lab and are trying to survive in a post-apocalyptic world desertified by weird alien plants and escape from the evil lab staff and demons of their past. So it was pretty damn sweet and surprisingly nicely written, and the guy I picked first was the sweetest gentle giant and there was so much bonding. Then the protagonist turned out to be an evil alien plant who possessed some poor bastard and he was only interested in the big guy because he wanted to eat his life force as well. I kinda knew what I was getting into from the start, and that probably wasn't the true ending, but holy fuck. Never ragedropped something this hard in my life.

On second thought fuck this show, I'm not watching. I hate yaoi.

Yooo I think I found one of the Hikaru schizos twitter accounts. Same broken english and same page spam.
As well as a gachafag that's into bara and shonen lol.

>>280507176
'Hikaru' is extremely possessive of Yoshiki, anyone who denies this is retarded.

If they just cut “that” scene the episode would be perfect. It didn’t even contribute anything, it was pure gayservice and nothing more

>>280508507
It's a filtering measure.

>>280508086
Yoshiki gets WAY gayer, however.

>>280494839 (OP)
its bromance, ppl with best friends understand.

>>280508212
I haven't, but I'll give it a read if you recommend it.

>>280508507
It adds a sense of unnerving over how "Hikaru"'s body works, what is it that its able to do something like that? And what it's capable of, it's actually pretty necessary in the long run.

>>280508416
Hikaru
>deeply cares about yoshiki
>puts him before his needs
>wants to be with him forever
>wants to be the only one he looks at
>learned to accept these feelings weren't ported over from the original
It IS love, just a monster version of love, but love nonetheless. I mean, this episode adapts the marriage scene and how hikaru wanted to mark him.

>>280508627
It's hardcore shit but the art it's great, be warned.

Show's atmosphere is pristine. Reminds me of Ghost Hound a bit. Somehow its not even that gay. Maybe because it doesn't feel like its yaoibaiting. Season's two best shows are about alien happenings in the coutryside.

>>280508725
Whats the other one?

>>280507424
>That one anon who edited the hoodie onto every character.
Take me back, man.

>>280508725
>Season's two best shows are about alien happenings in the coutryside.
And high production values. Turns out that the look and directing actually matters. Most shows are shit because the directing and animation suck. Funny how we got two well-produced series with a similar plot (including alien disguising as a dead person) in the same season.

This adaptation is kicking ass so far.

The small town japanese horror aesthetic has always been kino. I loved Shiki and Ghost Hound and this hits all the same buttons.

>>280507266
>I'm so starved off horror anime I actually rewatched Mayoiga.
I can't imagine why anyone would willingly subject themselves to that

>>280508086
Nothing as raunchy as this but Yoshiki slowly becomes more and more of a super duper faggot in the annoying whiny uke bottom way.

>>280508212
>>280508627
it's not the same unsettling horny though. It's a good series but recommending it based on this alone isn't a good way to compare the series. although tbqh it's the better of the two series

>>280507773
Speaking of, that author does have a nonbl seinen out for those that aren't into gay shit (mc is a girl) but are curious about the vibes.

>>280508725
So far, the directing is amazing. One of my favorites of the year. I hope it continues being this good.

>>280508761
Takoπ

>>280509139
>Takoπ
That's misery porn that goes so hard it turns into a comedy.
Some retarded twists to come.

>>280509160
Still better than the summer Hikaru loredumped

>>280509189
No, especially with that fucking ending.
Takopi falls off HARD after just one volume.

>>280509122
Yeah i own everything by her. she's such a good author. i still remember her being like "i write for people who hate women experiencing bad things so i write men doing it instead" kek

>>280509189
Go post in those threads then faggot.

>>280509196
>Takopi falls off HARD after just one volume.
Just like Hikaru!

>>280509196
hikaru feels like it turns to utter shit because th beginning was so good. imagine if your series goes from 10 to 4 rather tan 6 to 4. it's why it angered so many people when it turnt in to utter shite

>>280509189
Takofags will eat these words with the absolute abysmal drop in writing quality.

>>280509217
Obaa-san is trying to censor opinions she doesn't like...

>>280508761
Takopii.


Trying to think what else has a similar tone,other than Ghost Hound and Shiki. Mouryou no Hako kinda fits. Higurashi i suppose. Now,i'm in the mood for a live-action movie in this vein.

This anime is literally just Jennifer’s Body but yaoi I don’t get the hype desu

>>280509334
Do you have a better horror anime to recomed? That's why

>>280509334
This and Jennifer's Body are nothing alike, are you smoking?

>>280509268
>I hate this anime, this other anime is better
>Okay go post in that other animes threads
>WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO CENSOR ME
You are paranoid.

>>280509412
I can post in any thread I want

>>280509334
Haven't seen that but every single image makes it obvious its a generic splatter horror with barely a thought put into it. Hikaru is just oozing atmosphere.

>>280509447
And it's not censorship to ask why you don't just post in threads for anime you like you mentally unstable fella

>>280509334
>>280509467
Iirc that movie was more about the sexualization of women (they wanted Megan Fox being sexy) so they're pretty different with that alone.

Why does the shittiest manga always get good adaptations but really good manga always gets shitty adaptations. what is this bullshit

>>280506107
People say this but no one ever has an example of a BL that actually has appeal beyond the main demographic and has managed to break into the mainstream. Yuri has a similar problem but at least Bloom Into You is an example of a standard romance done competently and the green yuri is a twitterfag hype aura version of romance that managed to draw people in with the art alone. I feel like Hikaru could've been the BL to breakout into the mainstream but the author didn't even want the association with the genre.

>>280509987
Your favorite manga a shit

>>280509987
u jelly?

>>280510017
Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation? It got a live action, an anime, a blcd, and a stage play, at least.

>>280509204
This is some kind of strange end-stage misandry/feminism
>>280506960
There's no "shame" expressed in the series by any of the characters. Neither in subtext nor overtly. The Japanese don't process homo stuff in the same way westerners do.

>>280510290
More like grandmaster of ccp censorship, tho to be fair the romance is probably the weakest aspect of the novel

>>280510387
>There's no "shame" expressed in the series by any of the characters. Neither in subtext nor overtly.
Nta but it does get directly mentioned later on, a lot can honestly be seen as a metaphor for a kid realizing he's gay for a friend and being terrified of the ambiguity of his friend's actions and the relationship.

>>280503861
Hikaru wants Yoshiki to blow his load inside him so bad

>>280510387
>There's no "shame" expressed in the series by any of the characters.
What the fuck are you talking about?? Yoshiki alone is a walking pile of complexes for fuck's sake

summon the long necked fucker to kill that guy specifically

>>280494839 (OP)
Well shit, here I was thinking they were close friends, not fags

>show is gay as fuck
>but not really cause the love interest is a souless monster
So what's the point? The gay shit will filter a large portion of the audience who just wanted to watch a horror, and the gay romance being fake might filter the people who just wanted gay shit (me.) I hate bromance, misery porn bl and other wishy-washy crap in this vein. A shame, because the show looks very well made.

>>280511001
The point is you're not only a faggot but a coombrained one
Get your dick out of your hand and actually attempt to understand what the story is trying to present

>>280494839 (OP)
>Episode 2 today. So why doesn't this have a BL tag on any anime website? I thought the first episode was pretty gay.
The BL was retconned

>>280510017
BL is the most "mainstream" in its live action adaptations, to the point you get multiple countries adapting the same BL like picrel.
Anime is far more popular with men, and they'll recoil in horror at BL, but be okay with yuri. So, yuri tends to get more anime than BL. But live action dramas are far more popular with women, who are disinterested with yuri but enjoy BL. So, BL is more commonly adapted via live action. You decide whether appealing and being popular to a specific gender in multiple countries is considered mainstream.

>>280511161
These posts are so stupid. It doesn't stop it from being gay as fuck.

>>280511123
No dick, no fucks to give. I would rather watch something more uplifting.

>>280511195
Why do you forgive blatant homophobic censorship? Stop eating shit. There are plenty of actual BL to read or watch. Hell, even bait and subtext are better than outright censorship.

>>280511195
It's literally just one schizo hater on a crusade, like most shitposts on /a/

>>280511389
>blatant homophobic censorship
Nta but does an author selling out for a mainstream audience/getting westpilled about asexuality really censorship?

>>280511215
Then you were never the audience. Horror isn't uplifting. See ya.

>>280511389
Not him but I couldn't give less of a shit about what authors say on social media and in interviews. If they claim something they should show it in the series. Not shown, not real.

>>280511711
Why do you like eating shit? Being gay doesn't mean you should be into scat.

>>280511642
Then who's the audience? It's a fujobait show. Who is going to watch it, regular horror fans? Too gay for most of them, probably.

>>280511746
we eat the poopoo, sir

>>280511711
It is in the manga though, it got posted in this very thread

>AOTS can't even hit the bump limit
It's over
Even Orb did better

Let me see if I understand the lore correctly after getting caught up on the manga. Spoilers, btw.
>After mistaking mercury poisoning for a curse, an ancient village began sacrificing people to what they believed was a god. In reality, they were sacrificing them for no reason.
>The village splits into several villages, each one specializing in sacrificing a different body part. These meaningless deaths end up creating a massive amount of enraged ghosts, which are kept in check by "Hikaru" -- a mindless inhuman entity that acts as an apex predator. It is not a ghost, demon, or god, but something native to the spirit world that is unaffected by Shinto rituals.
>In 1749, the real Hikaru's ancestor, mistaking "Hikaru" for the non-existent god, asks it to revive his dead wife. It does -- as a living severed head that dies a few days later. This incident also opens up doors to the spirit world across the region, which are closed by regular child sacrifices. To atone, Hikaru's family becomes the priests of the "god," which does not notice. None of their rituals actually do anything to appease it.
>In the modern day, the entity possesses the corpse of Hikaru, granting it consciousness for the first time. It leaves its mountain home, which causes the ghosts to rampage throughout the region, as it is no longer eating them.
The manga takes so long to update I felt I needed to recap it. Plus, it loves its twists, so this could all be bullshit anyway.

>>280512460
So all sorts of supernatural shit like spirits and demons and black magic rituals powered by human sacrifice are real, but the curse wasn't? Sounds dumb, and like a certain other popular anime about a cursed village.

>It is not a ghost, demon, or god
What is it then? An alien? Cthulhu? That grinning little faggot from Fullmetal Alchemist?

Seriously, what is the point of this story? It sounds like several other horrors except it's gay, EXCEPT it's not really gay and it doesn't seem to make any sense. Epic.

>>280510017
Cherry Magic was so popular in japan it got multiple adaptations in various formats, and it's the most basic vanilla romance possible. Just because /a/ doesn't talk about it doesn't mean it's not popular.

There's gay romance that it's not under the BL label that are extremely popular between the mainstream japanese public, not otaku, like Kinou Nani Tabeta.

How gay is this from 1 to 10?

Around a 3 maybe but i've only seen these two eps.

>>280494839 (OP)
I just marathoned the manga and it was... ok? I feel like the pacing is too slow and there's too much S A D B O Y moments with Hikaru being depressed. There's also not as much occult stuff going on. 99% of the time they just wonder about the identity of Hikaru and how to deal with him, but no other occult stuff. I enjoy stuff like Urban Legend Files (manga) and Urban Myth Dissolution Center (game) far more than this. I'll follow the manga just to kill time since it's still mildly interesting, but this anime season is so packed that I don't think I want to waste my time watching the anime.

>>280513385
"Hikaru" is a mushi obviously.

>>280513963
4 I guess?

>>280507538
Lurk more.

>>280494839 (OP)
I don’t know how to explain it, but there’s something in the way the show is directed that makes it feel like a fake documentary or found footage. It has such a vivid quality to it. A lot of attention was given to its world.

>>280514282
Did you actually watch the anime? I dunno about the manga but the show is superbly directed. Have you read Dara-san?

>>280512317
/a/ is in the shitter right now. Practically every series struggles to hit the bump limit.

>>280514502
Why? Too many bait threads? People just don't want to talk about anime?

>>280514415
the directing is quite movie-like, especially the sound directing (that dude almost exclusively does movies, the last time he did a regular TV anime was Gankutsuou 2 decades ago)

>>280514621
bait threads and 24/7 never-ending shounen generals

>>280501706
Based if tru

What are those pills Yoshiki is taking?
They've shown it twice in the anime but I don't remember those were ever mentioned or shown in the manga

Trippy.

>>280515052
I figured they're sleeping/migraine pills. Nothing too important, but background stuff to casually emphasis that Hikaru dying fucked him up.

>>280515052
Drugs. He's hallucinating most of the plot.

>>280506098
Yeah no shit. Boys love is about love between boys. Without the love it's just shounen or porn or whatever the fuck this is.

The chorus from the opening is living rent free in my head. So fucking good.

Gives me Shiki vibes

>>280515052
Won't be surprised if it's antidepressants

This has to be the most homosexual thing I've ever seen.

>>280516251
They've somehow made it even gayer with the way Hikaru'not moaned

>>280510017
Fujos always backstab their fandom once they go legit.

>>280515839
Shiki was so fucking good. Slow burn to madness in Japanese Salem's Lot

>>280511541
The funny part is the author sold out because she has fujo shame so she feels the need to appeal to normalfag bi women who get angry at "toxic" yaoi relationships and only consume non-bl gay shit.

>>280494839 (OP)
Can't be BL when one of them isn't human

>>280508612
Bromance (buromansu) is a Japanese genre for closeted fujos with denial kink. Basically BL without the payoff, marketed as such. Like a game of gay chicken turned into a story. Or there is payoff, but the author confusingly insists there's not, so it's basically false advertising. It's the shittest genre known to man, woman, and hambeast, and certainly some kind of scam. Like diet coke, or gluten-free coffee, I suppose. So yeah, I do agree with your assessment. It's that piece of shit for sure.

Is it common to find girls EXACTLY like Yuki-chan in the japanese countryside?
Asking for a friend.

>>280516784
i dont care about your weebshit, i'm talking about the western concept of bromance.

>>280503956
whats up with this animes focus on eyes so much? also why do they visually show his bangs from his pov? does that have any meaning?

>>280517023
So start talking about western shows, somewhere far from here.

>>280517144
no. kill yourself.

>>280517168
You first

>>280507424
So that's his vagina?

>>280517229
That's his yaoi hole. Usually it's located somewhere in the undercarriage, but he's new to being human so he put it in the wrong place on accident

>>280512317
Orb threads were slow burn to get there, kept alive by stitch anon, until like episode 4.

>>280494839 (OP)
by god they made it even gayer.

>>280516784
I'm coping by seeing it as the homo version of cgdct.

the summer hikarupi drained my balls!

>>280516424
>ywn make love to an otherworldly entity and hear them moan in your ear

>>280509204
Based, there's not enough male ryona out there.

>>280510017
>I feel like Hikaru could've been the BL to breakout into the mainstream but the author didn't even want the association with the genre.
Saving that crown for Owari no Seraph, perhaps.

>>280515052
Stomach medicine. I don't think it was ever mentioned in the manga either.

>>280518528
Neat

I like the ED more than the OP. This beach scene reminded me that YoruKura had one too.

Cute

>>280518704
Made me think more of the jjk ED that the director did actually. He directs some really good OP/EDs like the Senpai Uzai one.

>>280509296
Sankarea, but the anime only adapts a portion of the manga. Ajin too (at least in the beginning). Just don't watch Ookamikakushi - it's trash.

>>280510017
>no one ever has an example of a BL that actually has appeal beyond the main demographic and has managed to break into the mainstream
>what is Bravern
>what is Yuri on Ice
>what is Banana Fish

>>280508612

>>280518882
JJK had great music and OP/ED visuals, true

>>280518567
Thanks anon

>>280518950
How are you meant to feel if someone uses your dead crush's body for fanservice?

>>280519066
If it's only to me and he doesn't do it in front of random strangers, gaslight myself into thinking the original would be the same.

Is this actually about mystery or is it just BL/Gay niggas?

>>280511001
>I hate misery porn
You're an outcast here.

>>280511215
>I would rather watch something more uplifting
Then do? Nobody's stopping you.

>>280514621
Discord hijacked all discussion.

>>280514655
>the last time he did a regular TV anime was Gankutsuou 2 decades ago
No wonder I liked it so much. Another not-REALLY-gay-but work by the way. If you know young men with daddy issues, recommend it to them as a troll and see how they react.

>>280518950
Bravern isn't gay, though.

>>280516784
But Tiger&Bunny was good.

>>280517057
The eyes are the windows to the soul, or something.

>>280517550
>>280517870
He tricked Yoshiki into massaging his prostate, by placing it in the wrong body section 'by accident (totally)', huh.

>>280519184
You must have not watched it then.

>>280519162
Its a combo of both.

>>280519364
That's a regular friendship between guys in mecha.

>>280519162
It's more of a horror.

>>280519384
I agree that /m/ is a the most homosexual anime genre.

>shoves his hand deeper after Hikaru says it feels good
Too damn lewd

Ok real talk, is it Yoshiki x Hikaru or Hikaru x Yoshiki

>>280519453
In a normal town, it may have been the summer he stuck it inside Hikaru, that out he waits for a deltunk accident during uni.

>>280519453
>>280519066
Can you make a version with sound and post it on /wsg/ too?

>>280519488
>>280519453

>>280518950
>Bravern
>Banana Fish
We're talking about manga with the actual BL tag, which the Summer Hikaru Died doesn't have either. Yuri on Ice wasn't even close to being as popular than the usual FOTM sports anime, either, the latter of which gets views from dudes too.

>>280519571
Afaik Yuri on Ice wasn't marked as a BL either

>>280517057
Dunno, but I love when they do that.
This year, Ave Mujica had a lot of shots focused on the eyes too. I really liked them.

>>280514655
>(that dude almost exclusively does movies, the last time he did a regular TV anime was Gankutsuou 2 decades ago
KINO CONFIRMED

>>280499603
???
>The genre tag and direction of advertising on the official website have not changed since the beginning of the series. Within the reach of the official, it consistently advertises itself as a "coming-of-age horror" from the very beginning. (It's also true that the official reach is very narrow...) Whatever the genre tag, and even if this story isn't a romance, I assure you that it's a GAY story (Word of God)

>>280519571
>Yuri on Ice wasn't even close to being as popular than the usual FOTM sports anime
At least don't lie.

>We're talking about manga with the actual BL tag
Tags are now the Word of God to you? Use your own brain. See >>280506483
>I remember how people tried to no-homo No.6 back in the day kek. Another show that is 'not BL', according to MAL:
>https://myanimelist.net/anime/10161

>>280506341
No studio has the talent to pull off Little Mushroom, this also isn't the early 00s anymore where anything could get a 50 episode series

>Yuri on ice didn't sell well
What fucking delusion is this?

>>280514502
Ruri rocks has 13 threads hitting bump limit

>>280520241
Or many other series
But they don't count because it won't fit his schizo narrative

>>280520241
>>280520321
They're probably not counting tits and ass shows tbf, hence Orb.
I haven't paid attention to what gets threads though, desu. What shows (that don't have that handicap) have gotten lots of threads recently?

>>280515839
Do I watch Shiki?

>>280516334
KEK

>>280503956
Why did they make this part so gay? I just remember it being freaky and weird in the manga, not even explicitly homoerotic

>>280494839 (OP)
Wow this OP is trash. Why is it so hard to make them properly edgy? At least Tougen Anki gave me a good old-fashioned OP full of edge.

>>280520441
Yes

I still can’t believe they killed Yuri on ice in cold blood

>>280517678
orb threads were weekly "religion is le bad/religion is le good" quarrel

>>280503956
>>280505294
i came

>>280520944
>Why did they make this part so gay?
To reflect the true spirit of the manga.

>>280519732
Now the real translation

>I have not changed my opinion that the genre of “The Summer Hikaru died” is something that readers are free to consider, but I describe it as “coming-of-age horror” because I think it should be a story that is accessible to those who have been left out of stories about love and sex.
>I think the key is the fear of not being “normal” and not having a place to belong, which is common to all kinds of people regardless of their demographics.
>I think it's okay for there to be queer stories that aren't romance.
>That is why, from the beginning, we have tried to avoid positioning the story as a love story.
>I think it is also important for a queer story to be about “not understanding romantic feelings and sexual desires”. But I know it's an easily misunderstood part of the story…
>I think it's great that people who aren't specifically interested in queer stories can enjoy this story, and I think stories should be read in different ways, so I'm fine with people reading it as horror.
>"The Summer Hikaru" is a story with queer elements, but it is not a love story. That is because not being able to date or not dating is also an important part of the story. And how you interpret this story is up to you, but it has been officially promoted as a "youth horror" from the beginning. I don't know if it was conveyed, but it is about this.

>>280521126
Then why was it tagged as BL on the government site and pixiv?

>>280521061
That was only half of the thread, the other half was homo pic spamming by that one schizo who is hated even in the homothread.

>>280519732
>>280521126

>>280521153
Ann lists it as 'romance' too kek.

Because every anime needs a mascot.

Hikaru a cute.

>>280519181
Misery porn is good, especially if it's so over the top it loops around to comedy. I just don't like when they insert it into an already niche romance genre cause then it's more about making the viewers miserable than the characters.

>>280521438
>it's more about making the viewers miserable than the characters
Are you perhaps the same autist who infests Cyberpunk Edgerunners threads with never-ending 'tragedy bad' outbursts?

>>280521461
Why would I be? Not every anon you disagree with is the same fag.

>>280494839 (OP)
>>280521461
why do women like these beady-eyed character designs so much

>>280521503
The eyes give them an inhuman look.

>>280520369
Literally every other shows with decent popularity hit bump limit lol

>>280521582
Most of them over several days.

>>280521153
The what now?

>>280504185
Oh boy Shiki mentioned.
What a trainwreck that was.

>>280504565
Because gay shit makes most people even more uncomfortable.
Especially if it arouses them.

>>280504730
I don't know where this director's come from, but he's doing good shit.

>>280506960
>Threads are also better because of the soft-BL filtering the tards.
I agree, it does the job... for now.
But eventually it might cross into the NGE Kaworu zone where even plebs will tolerate it.

>>280522094
I don't think "plebs" would tolerate it if NGE was all about Shinji and Kaworu's yaoibait instead of unusually gay 5% of a franchise about giant robots and a harem of emotionally unstable girls.

>>280519435
I used to think it was a meme until Turn A.

>>280504565
Ah because fag among us

>>280522314
>I need society to advance faster so I can legally marry a femboi

>BL
>yuri
>probably hetero too
This shit's got everything checked. Now all we need is furry for the title of the most degenerate anime of all time.

>>280522325
Loran didn't like crossdressing ironically though. He had a harem of women including national leaders.

>>280522344
>>yuri
No yuri anon, these girls are all super straight.

>>280522356
And he went for the worst, absolute simp option in the ending.
Fuck you Loran, also Tomino for writing that retardation.

>>280522374
Turn A is the best gundam though.

>>280522660
No, in fact, it's pretty crap with huge pacing issues and a generally shit cast.

>>280510017
there's actually plenty but a lot of them are invisible to westerners. and that's a good thing. one for example, you almost always see this in oricon
>Five million copies of the Japanese edition of What Did You Eat Yesterday? were in print as of January 2019 and 8.4 million copies as of October 2022.
>What Did You Eat Yesterday? was the most-awarded series at the 101st Television Drama Academy Awards awarded by Kadokawa, winning Best TV Series; Best Actor in a Leading Role for Seiyō Uchino (with Hidetoshi Nishijima placing second); Best Screenplay for Naoko Adachi; and Best Director for Kazuhito Nakae, Katsumi Nojiri, and Kenshi Katagiri.[29] The 16th Confidence Award Drama Prize [ja] given by Oricon was awarded to What Did You Eat Yesterday? for Best TV Series and Best Actor in a Leading Role, the later of which was won by both Nishijima and Uchino.[30] The series was additionally awarded the July 2019 Galaxy Award, given by the Japan Council for Better Radio and Television.[31]

>>280522324
Sus

I know everyone wants to feel impressed because we are so starved of horror and gay anime, but this is actually not that good at all

>>280503956
this is great

>>280519530
>>>/wsg/5922184
>>>/wsg/5922185

Personally, I really liked this scene
>>>/wsg/5922189

>>280522362
Nah the author is a yurifag

>>280494839 (OP)
TSHD isn't just a BL story. It's a queer psychological story with horror elements added in to highlight the struggles and complexity of a closet queer teenager. That's what makes it so special in the first place and yet some straggots are already trying to deny it already

>>280523372
>good music
>good direction
>good acting
>good artstyle

It's an enjoyable show.

Being contrarian isn't a personality.

Anon, do u think Hikaru had reciprocal feelings for our protagonist before he's dead?

>>280523709
No author keeps saying hikaru was super straight

Place your bets on whether the manga will get a conclusion similar to Shamanic Princess or not.

>>280523494
Thanks so much!

>>280523596
What are you even getting at? That BL stories can't be 'queer' psychological dramas?

>>280523846
This isn't a BL because the author said it isn't and it's not tagged as such in the official website, simple as

>>280523861
Then why did she tag as bl initially

>>280523846
That schizoid just spams the same one liner and page every single time, there's no point replying to him.

>>280523892
I think she initially wanted to go through bl route but later got chickened out

>>280494839 (OP)
It was the gayest shit, even through direction, visuals and music is very nice I can't bear it, not watching more.

>>280523965
Nah, I bet this was always going to be about monster fucking. It probably won't even take on Hikaru's form by the end.

>>280523861
1. Fuck the official site.
2. Death of the Author.
I hope you have eyes and a brain to judge for yourself rather than use corpos and their marketing campaigns as your intellectual crutches.

>>280523892
People like her who find their own pursuits (BL) shameful deserve all the shit they are getting online.

Bl-sisters, please recommend me some good stuff to read.

>>280524120
It's already posted It, use your eyes

>>280524118
You sound mad

>>280524113
I wish I saved those sketches she drew of a guy being in a relationship with a tentacle monster.

>>280523846
Literally just a copy of some xitter post. Which confirms the hikaru hater is a xitter tard.

>>280524113
then do a bl like the old guy x monster one that actually is really good

>>280523004
it's simply because more BL is adapted as LA rather than anime and /a/ hates 3d. A lot of the nip BL live actions are actually pretty nice.

>>280519571
>Yuri on Ice wasn't even close to being as popular than the usual FOTM sports anime
It was so popular that it was featured in the fucking Olympics years after it ended. Not many reach such a mainstream status. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN2H7tbu8E4

>>280521126
>"The Summer Hikaru" is a story with queer elements, but it is not a love story. That is because not being able to date or not dating is also an important part of the story.
God, I hope bl doesn't start being considered as just love stories, this is such a shit way to think about genres.

>>280524835
I mean the genre it's called Boys Love not Gays Doing Stuff

>>280524775
this is still one of my favorites til this day. They really got what i loved behind the music of this skate. the longing and hope.

>>280524438
funny thing i was looking through a mal version of LA cause a manga i know got adapted to LA apparently. i just found out BL is pretty popular on the live action scene. from japan to korea hell even china despite the heavy censorships there. no wonder netflix tried to copy it with halfass gay westernshits like heartstopper, etc. makes me wonder why more fujos prefer live actions than animated adaptations

>>280524835
>story where the mc is gay
>nothing homosexual ever happens and no one even remotely gets together
I wouldn't call that bl.

>>280524865
>>280524887
Bl has more than just love stories, and as far as Hikaru goes (there's clearly romance in it) its stupid to think its too different from other bl to count.
If this doesnt count, series like >>280507060 wouldn't either, but it does because that author doesn't trying to shove the genre into a "muh pure romance" box.

>>280524118
Did the author actually deconfirm anything of import? So it's not a BL series...cause it's "queer" and the genre is whatever you want it to be. And "Hikaru"'s species doesn't feel love or lust so it's not like he likes the protagonist back... except soulless creatures like robots and demons and sociopaths who become more human-like and fall for the protagonist are a massively popular romance cliche. The series is still ongoing and apparently full of twists, so anything could happen at this point.

>>280524883
it's easier to cast people (and takes less time) then is does it animate. actors learn the lines in their own time (in the case in CN sometimes you just have to lip sync good enough to be properly dubbed) and all you need is a rental location, practice the scene a few times, and then a few hours of shooting.

>>280525005
But homosexual shit DOES happen in that one.
The gayest thing in Hikaru is literally Yoshiki sticking his arm inside him, otherwise it's him struggling with his feelings and that's it.
It's a story with a gay mc but it's not bl, there's s difference.

>>280524887
"sad kid falls in love with straight friend but gets rejected/gets bullied/becomes a bully and has to move on and the story ends on a bitter note" is a bl cliché, if anything.

>>280525118
Since when? Examples?

>>280525118
You forgot the part where those usually feature some kind of attempt at romance, sex or even rape.

>>280525069
Im just using this as an example, but there's clearly series with no sex, no romance, but still rejection, and its still bl.
>The gayest thing in Hikaru is literally Yoshiki sticking his arm inside him,
That's gay af, the author just wants a bigger audience and thinks bl is too plebian for her work to count.

>>280525137
>give rec pls
Go on mlm, pick tragedy and school life, you'll find at least one after a bit.
>>280525174
Like stuffing someone's hand inside of them?

>>280524865
>Boys Love
It's shitty ENGRISH conceived by the Japanese - it's not supposed to make sense in English.

>>280525051
Yeah, it's definitely cheaper. None of those live actions require expensive sets, travel to remote locations, CG, stunts, explosives etc. because 99.9% of them are modern day SoL/drama/romcom. And that's the reason why I couldn't care less about any of them.

>>280525069
>It's a story with a gay mc but it's not bl, there's s difference.
Please. Maybe in theory, but not in this case. Yoshiki's actions and feelings are prompted by his homosexuality - they don't happen in a vacuum.

>>280525183
And there's nothing sexual about it.
>but there's clearly series with no sex, no romance, but still rejection, and its still bl.
Oh come on anon, all those series have an attempt at it and will end up featuring sons kind of confession.
Sorry my standards for bl are
>some kind of homosexual scene happens
I guess they are too high.

Just saying, if this was yuri then then everyone would probably be screaming at how yuri it is.
Ig given the same standards, GWitch is no longer yuri but a coming of age scifi with vaguely queer characters.

>>280525051
Nta, that explains why LA is cheaper, but that doesn't explain why fujos (or women, rather) prefer LA over anime. Other manga adaptations that are mostly read by men (even something down to earth like school romances) are more likely get anime compared to the female demographic, since men are the majority of anime watchers. But why is that the case? Why is one medium more popular than the other for each sex?

>>280525220
I don't want recs.
To be fair, I stopped reading yaoi manga like a decade ago cause I switched to visual novels and then got sick of them too, but the stuff I remember wasn't like that at all. All the stories with this kind of premise and other dramatic and horrifying shit always ended on an unrealistically happy note. So it just sounds to me like you are making shit up, or exaggerating the importance of some artsy outliers that have always existed but weren't exactly the norm.

>>280525418
Its probably the same case as with figures. It isn't that women prefer cheaper acrylic stands and keychains, its that people prefer it when women get the acrylic stands and keychain shit while men get good quality figurines.

>>280525005
Sleeping Dead it's way more focused on the relationship between the main characters than Hikaru. Hell, I was reading the manga expecting some thriller shit with the medical company and the research and all the murder going on and It just never happens because it's so lazer focus on the two leads and their issues.

>>280525476
>To be fair, I stopped reading yaoi manga like a decade ago
So you dont know what you're talking about and are just pulling shit out of your ass about vague happy endings in some shit you read a decade ago and blaming others who do read it as "making shit up".

>>280525555
Nta but Hikaru so far has been 80% gay feelings.

>>280525556
That's why I asked for examples. If you can't give me any, your words are more worthless than mine.

>>280525233
Cope

>>280525586
You mean Yoshiki's depression because his best friend/crush is dead.

>>280525616
Whatever you call it, his gay depression over his gay crush is pretty gay.

>>280525640
That doesn't count because bl is gross and porn and this is just queer and not gross.

>>280525640
>>280525586
That's like calling Higurashi a school romance

>>280525137
Check danmei novels on NU under the 'tragedy' tag.

>>280525174
>attempt at romance
Moving the goalposts? Pining no longer counts?

>>280525293
>GWitch is no longer yuri but a coming of age scifi with vaguely queer characters
I'm sure that's what Bandai execs actually want though...

>>280525798
>Replying to multiple post
>Unable to move on from the author making a choice you don't like
>Pushing the conversation to the same topic over and over again
Are you our designated autistic schizo?

>>280525798
>danmei novels
That's not even /a/... So you were full of shit.

>>280525798
>Pining no longer counts?
If no one ever makes any attempt at displaying or acting said feelings? No. Having a gay mc flfkesnt make something automatically danmei.
Also
>Check danmei novels on NU under the 'tragedy' tag.
Most of those are a bunch of novels with explicit romantic and sexual content.

>>280525787
>this anon didn't read Meakashi-hen

>>280525787
I don't think the creator of Higurashi would deny the straight romance tbf, though in comparison its still lighter than what happens in Hikaru.
Does he deny the yuri?
>>280525892
Nta but there's more than one person on the discussion and danmei is a part of bl, like it or not.

>>280525899
Nta but pretty sure the bit is that a lot of danmei literally can't have sexual content because China has cracked down in it and are fining/arresting authors that pull it.

>>280526013
They still have some
>and then they did something at night and the mc can't walk straight the day after

>>280526041
Maybe one just thrusted his arm inside the other guy's chest, that doesnt count as bl.

>>280525952
>there's more than one person on the discussion
Perhaps? But there's also more than one post in this thread that makes generalizations about BL that sound completely off to me. So I was kind of addressing them all.

>and danmei is a part of bl, like it or not.
Nope. We are on /a/, talking about Hikaru and Japanese gay comics for fujos, not gay Chinese novels. Might as well bring up shit like Dream Daddy or Call Me by Your Name at this point. Sounds about as on-topic.

>>280524118

I mean it isn't a BL, though?

There's conventions and tropes to BL, this doesn't lean into those because it wants to be a standard horror. It's basic "know it when you see it" stuff.

>>280526409
If you're >>280525476 then of course they wouldn't make sense desu.
As far as danmei goes, it does count as bl. Bl awards have had danmei winning its novel category for years. Given dumb ideas like how bl can *only* be romance, it makes sense why it was easy for something like danmei to skyrocket into popularity.

>>280526648
>There's conventions and tropes to BL
What is Hikaru avoiding that's in bl?

>>280526856
Because danmei is gay romance+plot.
Note the
>gay romance
part.

>>280526648
>There's conventions and tropes to BL
>source: my ass

>>280526877
The
>anything remotely homosexual ever happening
part, probably. Even sticking his arm in hikaru is basically a glorified headpat as far as he's concerned.

>>280526883
Of only it stuck to having the mc be a weepy sad uke while shoving his hand into the seme's chest, then it wouldn't be gay at all, just a queer coming of age.

>>280526966
Anon can't into symbolism.

>>280526941

Source: the entire concept of genre.

Romantic feelings expressed in a fantasy novels about vampires doesn't explicitly make it a Dark Romance Twilight clone, there's other genre tropes that need to exist for it to be considered one over the other. The same applies to other entries in other genres that echo, but are not, different sub-genres.

If you don't know the difference you're just autistic, sorry.

>>280526856
>Given dumb ideas like how bl can *only* be romance
Who said that, ever? Most BL visual novels, especially the popular, translated ones are mostly plot with some raping and kissing thrown in as a reward. The point is that something called Boys Love is supposed to have boys loving each other, romantically or physically to be worth its salt. Permanently one-sided feelings are not romance, especially if they are subtext tier. So Hikaru is not BL. It's some weird horror+LGBT-flavored coming of age drama hybrid.

>>280527394
It's about the focus, the author wants to make clear that Hikaru is mostly an horror story with some gay, not a gay story with some horror.

it seems to be doing okay
>>280525051
although yeah it's probably cheaper but even when it does require budget they still chose live action. the untamed happened after the anime. they still made an LA version of it. and then there's stuff like interview with the vampire where it requires a bunch of expensive props and bigshots.
>>280525418
i think most girls are just normalfags so they prefer real people more? since popular pairings from the west used to came from live action shows like supernatural, hannibal, etc.

>>280527394
>Permanently one-sided feelings are not romance
So is something like Sleeping Dead not a bl because it ends on a one sided note?

>>280496676
SAVE ME FAGGERMAN

Can you retards stop acting like the author hates BL when she's drawn BL herself.

>>280527578
Sleeping Dead Is not one sided, they pretty much declare their love to each other. It's just one dies before the other.

>>280527578
The real answer is that the author just wants the mainstream audience and thinks bl is too lowbrow. There's nothing wrong with that, I'm not sure why its necessary to try to cover it up with "actually I just want to make a queer coming of age and its not romantic, bl is all super 99% romance focused so this is totally different", it was pretty clearly romantic at the start so it just makes it seem like the author can't write.

>>280527666
The uke very clearly never loved the scientist, even to the end. That was just pity.

My opinion is that gay is gay, doesn't matter if it's 10% gay or 20% gay.
Kitsu and Anilist both have the tags, users are the ones who pick the anilist tags though. Idk about Kitsu.

>>280527807
He went and found him in the afterlife

the styling of this OP made me think of a certain anime.

>>280527578
Idk? I haven't read it, but it totally looks like some weird artsy outlier that's only called BL because it was serialized in a BL magazine or something. I mean, one of the main guys is balding?? The designs alone scream "this one is not like the others!"

>>280527758
This, its one thing to say the author thinks bl is shitty romance only, its another to start repeating as if its true.
Shoujo sucks ass now because of that, authors all make it seinen instead so they can act like they're cooler.

>>280527926
>the author thinks bl is shitty romance
She never said that, it's this how brainrot looks like?

>>280527868
>The designs alone scream "this one is not like the others!"
So it looks like how Hikaru wants to be lol

>>280527364
>Source: the entire concept of genre
Go whine how space operas with laser battles and gigantic mecha are not real sci-fi, because 'it's magic, not science/only used as plot devices - not exploration of scientific concepts'.

I don't care what your definition of BL is, because it's shit and useless for the anime/manga community. The entire concept of 'genre' exists to make it easier for fans to search for what they like and avoid what they don't like. The majority of /a/ doesn't care for your autistic unpacking of what 'should' or 'shouldn't' be in a genre - it's not needed, detrimental (as you can see here >>280507433), and a pointless exercise that's the definition of fucking things up for everybody in the name of 'improvement'.
The MC's arc revolves around homo stuff/homo stuff driving the plot = BL/GL/yaoi/yuri. Simple as.

>you're just autistic
The absolute lack of self-awareness lel.

>>280527856
It was out of pity because he failed and went to hell.

>>280528233
You're sure stretching this bit.

>>280519488
Hikaru wants Yoshiki to penetrate him with his warmth bro, what do you think?

>>280528270
The whole story had the scientist being as pathetic as possible, though I dont think the bit was stretched, it paced it well enough.

>>280527394
>Permanently one-sided feelings are not romance, it's not BL.
Iirc, picrel features blonde loving him romantically one-sidedly until the end. Black hair cherishes him, but doesn't understand/match the romantic love. They show their "love" to one another the way black hair understands, which is through cannibalism . And despite its one-sided love, it's still a BL, a horror one at that.

>>280529284
But that definitely felt like BL throughout because there was some romantic development from both sides. And god I hated the ending with the lesbians.

>>280529350
Black hair came to the realization it wasn't romantic after being indifferent to the kiss. He liked eating/being eaten. It can feel like that, I agree, but he didn't take it in romantically. At least, in a way the average human represents romance/sexuality, because he never does understand it.

>>280529284
Sounds (and looks) like BL with a dark twist at the end. Hikaru sounds like horror with some gay undertones. Also if there's regular gay sex in it, that's definitely BL. And again, that's another outlier. I really doubt BL manga nowadays are about boys dumping and cannibalizing each other and dying tragically. There was another example itt about the guys fucking women and having girlfriends which was supposed to be novel and showcase how much the genre has changed. Except this stuff has always been a thing in BL so I just don't buy what they're saying.

Haven't liked any anime that's come out in a while until this dropped so i haven't posted here in years but it's nice to come back to a mostly nice thread, even if 80% of it is retarded genre tags discussion.

>>280530388
>Also if there's regular gay sex in it, that's definitely BL.
They never do.
I'm just reiterating, while BL does have common themes, outliers do exist and are still labelled BL. I gave an example of that. Black hair never showcases the way he cherishes blonde hair the normal "human" way. Black hair doesn't understand that sort of love to the end. The way the mangaka labels Hikaru is her own perjorative, but I'm specifically quoting to stand against the notion of some constraints being put on BL by anons here.

>>280527364
>>280528159
Bl can do what the fuck it wants. Night of the tricorne and a second goodbye to you are listed as BL but the focus isn't o nthe romance.

>First two volumes were literally listed as Bl for years
>Played as classical moster boy x shounen romance
"hurr hurr is not bl"

sure

Holy shit come up with something new to talk about. Is every one of these threads just going to be two retards arguing over autistic genre nitpicking? Who fucking cares?

>>280530946
There is nothing else to discuss. The story is really boring as the latest chapter.

>>280530695
Why does it feel like with any example given, the response will just be "well that bl is just trying not to be like other bl" and "even if it is one-sided and not romantic Hikaru is even more one-sided and not romantic so its different"

>>280495078
It's a youkai of the mountain.