Thread 280507554

What's your favorite canon incest couple?

adopted siblings are as much siblings as step-siblings are. it's not incest

Stepsiblings are not incest.

>>280507628
>>280507647
You're relying on the biological definition of incest which doesn't encompass all of it. Compare 2 half-siblings who never met taken who were born in different parts of the world and meet later and fuck. That's biological incest, not legal/relational incest. "Incest" has multiple meanings, and legal/relational incest is definitely still incest. Adopted siblings and stepsiblings are incest.

>>280507786
>Compare 2 half-siblings who never met taken who were born in different parts of the world and meet later and fuck
That's a love that defies time and space to reunite two people who were fated for each other from the moment they were born. Purest form of love.

Erenkeks... not like this...

>Eren hates how Mikasa is stronger than him and wants to be her protector instead
>Mikasa acts like an over protective mom to Eren(something Isayama himself said)
>Mikasa doesn’t mind always protecting him
>Eren stops being an asshole to her once they’re ready to take back wall Maria
>gets depressed and goes schizo once learning the truth about the world
Never minded the progression of their relationship but we needed some more insight into his complicated feelings and maybe Mikasa’s own feelings changing due to Eren’s cold nature which is why she only saw him as "family". I get what Yams was going for with the whole tragic never meant to be romance

>>280507786
>stepsiblings are incest.
Legally it isn't, at least in Burgerland.

>>280508101
Mikasa only saw Eren as "family" because that's literally all he was. Even if she felt romantically towards him, adored him and all that, she still couldn't cancel out the fact that she saw him as a brother first. She couldn't even indulge her fleeting dream fantasy without feeling guilty about it and immediately wanting to snap his neck off.

>>280507786
Nont-blood related is for cowards. Full-blooded incest is just better.

>>280507786
What are you even going by if there's no blood relation?
>uhhhh you lived too close to each other and were taken care of by the same guardians while you were children so you're now siblings and sex would be evil
>but if she lived 2 meters from your house and saw you for the same amount of time every day it wouldn't be evil, mmkay?

>>280507878
I fell in madly in love with my much younger half sister. Nothing came of it but it nearly drove me insane.

>>280507554 (OP)
Mikasa is a cheating traitor whore who will burn in hell.

>>280508480
Yes, incest is also about being raised in the same household together as siblings by the same parents. You can't even tell if someone is biologically related to you without a DNA test. Historically, adopted incest is just as fucked up as biological incest. Are you saying it wouldn't be messed up for adopted siblings, who call each other brother and sister, to have sex while they live under the same roof?

>>280507554 (OP)
Can you blame Eren for always being angry? You’d be pissed too if your hot sister is stronger than you and you’re the one with the dream of going outside the walls and destroying titans

>>280508671
It's certainly not common because people naturally avoid it. But whether anyone finds it "messed up" is irrelevant. If there's no shared DNA, only the law can draw any kind of hard line on the sand, arbitrary as it may be.

For example, Eren and Mikasa don't call each other siblings, lived under the same roof for a year at most, and mey while they were 9. There probably wasn't even any kind of document concerning Mikasa's "adoption". Some people might call it incest, but it's not very much time for people to develop an aversion to seeing one another in a certain manner.

>>280508671
>Yes, incest is also about being raised in the same household together as siblings by the same parents.
It isn't. Historically is was purely about consanguineous relations. People would adopt and then marry their unrelated kids together all the time.

>>280509048
So you wouldn't find it fucked up? Ok, well you're an outlier because most people consider it wrong to fuck adopted siblings.
>If there's no shared DNA, only the law can draw any kind of hard line on the sand, arbitrary as it may be.
If you found out your sibling you grew uo with wasn't biologically related to you by DNA, would you suddenly put them in the running as a potential sexual partner?
>Eren and Mikasa don't call each other siblings.
Are you saying Kodansha's translation is incorrect?
>lived under the same roof for a year at most, and mey while they were 9.
9-11 years old is a pretty significant developmental time. My cousin lived with us for 6 months when I was that age, and I consider him close enough to be called my brother.
>There probably wasn't even any kind of document concerning Mikasa's "adoption".
Grisha considered Mikasa his daughter according to the official English translation.

>>280507786
Biology is 100% of what makes incest bad and wrong

>>280509211
>So you wouldn't find it fucked up? Ok, well you're an outlier because most people consider it wrong to fuck adopted siblings.
Not exactly how morality works. Anyone could just pull the culture card here, even blood relations aren't safe from it, but adoptive ones even more so.
>If you found out your sibling you grew uo with wasn't biologically related to you by DNA
People's sexual aversion to their relatives is usually due to growing up together. There's some research on whether it's got to do with biology and smells or whatever, but the answer is no.

Either way, the two of them wanted to bang each other. Legally (probably) and genetically, it wouldn't be incest. Anything else could be debated endlessly.

>>280509807
>Not exactly how morality works. Anyone could just pull the culture card here, even blood relations aren't safe from it, but adoptive ones even more so.
I know, but what's moral, and our laws, are based on our values as a culture. Laws aren't always necessarily moral, either. In the US, adopted sibling incest is illegal in the majority of states, and most people agree it's wrong.
>People's sexual aversion to their relatives is usually due to growing up together.
Yep, that was my point. It's not due to biology.
>Either way, the two of them wanted to bang each other.
I'm not disputing that, I'm just saying that it's incest because according to Eren's dad and the official English translation, Mikasa was adopted. Eren and Mikasa also refer to each other and think of each other as "family," not in a romantic way, but referencing Mikasa being adopted by Eren's parents.

>>280509240
sibling incest is bad and wrong because if some strange boy knocks up my daughter I can claim weregild and use that to set my daughter up in a household of her own, but if my own son knocks her up then I'll have to pay 2x the money for ½ the number of grandchilderen.

>>280509958
Not that it matters, as I said, but just going by definitions, most exclude their case. Some dictionaries specify it as sex between blood relatives, others as between people who are not legally allowed to marry. We don't know the latter with certainty, but as I said I doubt there was any documentation, and even if there was, we don't know if it's illegal in Paradis or whatever. So we're going by "they refer to each other as family but still wanna fuck so it's incest". Well, sure, why not...

Incest isn't illegal in my country, and reactions towards it aren't as strong. People still don't want to fuck their siblings, naturally, but you can already see a cultural difference when someone is inclined to view something as disgusting, even though it's pretty far from what the cultural norms even existed to prevent to begin with.

>>280510568
>So we're going by "they refer to each other as family but still wanna fuck so it's incest". Well, sure, why not...
It's more like "they were raised by the same parents for a year or more during developmental years who raised them as siblings and still consider each other 'family' in that context after their parents died so it's incest".

>>280510568
>>280511349
Like, the problem is that if Grisha and Carla hadn't died, Mikasa and Eren would have lived under the same roof together with the same parents from ages 9 to 18. The only thing in fans' eyes commonly said to prevent it being incest is that it was "only for a year." But the sibling dynamic was already set up there.

>>280511349
That wasn't really the point of the post. You might want to call it incest because you personally find it just as disgusting as the dictionary meaning, but still none of that is part of the definition.

On an unrelated note, you're overstating the developmental years bit. Once puberty's set in, it's gonna take cultural biases to prevent attraction to someone you've just met. Not every culture has such a strong response to finding out someone is a relative, so if a boy meets a hot girl, then later finds out she's his cousin, his feelings might not change much, compared to Americans who would for sure feel a lot of ways about it. This is especially true if said person isn't actually a blood relative. I've known cousins who messed around at that age, and heard stories in person too but that bit is suspect.

>>280512110
If Grisha explicitly considered Mikasa his adopted daughter, then yes it's still incest, legally and relationally. Nobody brings up "adoption papers" in AOT because it's a fictional world and simply saying she was adopted is enough.

>>280512248
That's a suspect context considering he was trying to gain sympathy there, and needed to be concise. Mikasa also referred to him as "Eren's father". I'm not saying they needed to show adoption papers, but what I'm saying is that it's legitimately not possible to know if it was legally incest or not. I mean Paradis's law in the literal sense.

>>280509240
>Biology is 100% of what makes incest good and right
Fixed

>>280512583
It's not suspect. Here's him ruffling her hair for doing a good job with her chores. >>280509958 He considered Mikasa his kid, as he stated. The official guidebook agrees Mikasa was adopted, and clearly Mikasa and Eren both felt the same way.