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Anonymous No.280510255 >>280513159 >>280514555 >>280514768 >>280514940 >>280515046 >>280516144 >>280516216 >>280517385 >>280517469 >>280517698 >>280519957 >>280520301 >>280522965 >>280523480 >>280523840 >>280524838
Wing is the only Gundam that comes close to the quality of the original and Zeta
Anonymous No.280510613 >>280510682 >>280514555
G gundam came out a year earlier and was better then wing
Anonymous No.280510682
>>280510613
G Gundam is great, but not serious enough to be as good as Wing
Anonymous No.280510775 >>280510899 >>280511156
Original and zeta are full retarded.

Thunderbolt, war in the pocket, Stardust, MS Team and 00 are gud.
Anonymous No.280510899
>>280510775
Such a midwit take
Anonymous No.280511156
>>280510775
Great take. Add Unicorn and IBO as well
Anonymous No.280513159 >>280514510 >>280520660
>>280510255 (OP)
Gwitch > Wing
Anonymous No.280514510 >>280515086 >>280517442
>>280513159
Completely wrong
Anonymous No.280514555 >>280515221 >>280515781
>>280510255 (OP)
>>280510613
Toonamifags are so braindead
Anonymous No.280514768 >>280515781
>>280510255 (OP)
Zeta is dogshit compared to the original
Anonymous No.280514940
>>280510255 (OP)
Wing was terrible and you only remember it fondly because of the Nostalgia goggles that compel you to this day to keep buying the gunpla.
Anonymous No.280515046 >>280515781
>>280510255 (OP)
But enough about 00.
Anonymous No.280515086
>>280514510
sadly there's no quality fanart/hentai or even official fanart to make a fucking wallpaper, all the pics online look like shit.
Anonymous No.280515221 >>280516509
>>280514555
Comfy anime and its just toonami core.
Anonymous No.280515532 >>280515781 >>280516627 >>280517607 >>280519957
Wing felt like I was watching an Idiot Plot, but the writers thought it was a serious drama. At no point in time did a single character do anything reasonable for the situation and absolutely none of the character relationships felt natural. Wing squandered some of the best mech designs in the franchise on one of the worst series.
Anonymous No.280515689
I liked it but it is pretty dated.
Anonymous No.280515781 >>280515840
>>280514768
Zeta is better than the original in may ways, but in some ways it pales in comparison due to not having the simplistic character driven narrative of the original.
>>280514555
A quality show is a quality show no matter where people first watched it.
>>280515046
it only had a good first half
>>280515532
Wing is too Shakespearean for you
Anonymous No.280515825
I feel your love reflection
mitsumekaesu hitomi ni
egaite haruka na Neverending Story
Anonymous No.280515840 >>280516038 >>280519957
>>280515781
Zeta's lack of consistent narrative and pacing is a major minus unfortunately; what you call simplistic could be rephrased as tightly focused driven narrative; a reason probably why the original is more memorable to the general public.
Anonymous No.280516038
>>280515840
Yeah, you're wording it better than me. There are events, etc in Zeta that occur that reek EXECUTIVE MANDATE that really hamper the narrative, that, even though a good chunk of MSG is mostly monster of the week, things that occur in it don't seem to have that same noticeable feel. The monster of the week enemies in MSG don't come off as SELL TOYS because the narrative heavily focuses on the effect these battles have on Amuro and the crew of the White Base. Whereas, Shinta and Qum's random appearance in Zeta reek of WE NEED KIDS IN A KIDS SHOW
Anonymous No.280516144 >>280516391
>>280510255 (OP)
SEED clears both btw
Anonymous No.280516216
>>280510255 (OP)
Wing goes way further then the original series in a lot of ways and its completely stupid all the while and that is why I love it so much.
Anonymous No.280516259 >>280517580
X was better than Wing. But wingtards wanted more heero shit
Anonymous No.280516391
>>280516144
Seed is shit. It tries to be edgelord like Wing, but fails because it's too afraid to be too cool for school. Also, there is way too much recap footage in the second half.
Anonymous No.280516509
>>280515221
your picrel makes sense except for last sentence
"entertainment" isn't supposed to offer anything of substance, that's why it's called entertainment
and I'm not excusing empty entertainment, I think fiction should aim above that bar
but it is not a high bar
Anonymous No.280516627
>>280515532
>some of the best mech designs in the franchise
please anon
wing designs are barely above Dragon Quest random encounter, metal version
half of them wouldn't look out of place in G Gundam fighting ambulatory windmills
Anonymous No.280517385 >>280517546
>>280510255 (OP)
Wing was kind of shit.
Anonymous No.280517442 >>280517649 >>280520596
>>280514510
Miorine, Lacus and Kudelia >>>>>> Shitlena
Anonymous No.280517469
>>280510255 (OP)
>quality of the original
You just said wing is bad.
Anonymous No.280517546
>>280517385
I'll always appreciate Wing for being the vanguard of Gundam getting a US release after waiting almost 20 years for one, but you're right it's pretty senseless shit that hasn't aged well and only gets dumber with every rewatch.
Anonymous No.280517580
>>280516259
Anonymous No.280517607
>>280515532
>At no point in time did a single character do anything reasonable for the situation and absolutely none of the character relationships felt natural
That's all gundam.
Anonymous No.280517649 >>280517754
>>280517442
>spends the majority of the series acting like a cunt and doing absolutely nothing of worth
>all of a sudden becomes mind broken because the plot requires her too
>is magically healed when suletta comes back to her after all the shit she put her through because bandai really wants that yuritroon money
>all the while people are dying in the process but no that doesn't matter and there will be no repercussions
Mirone is hands down one of the worst supporting characters in gundam.
Anonymous No.280517698 >>280517729
>>280510255 (OP)
Zeta is trash and so is ZZ.
Anonymous No.280517729 >>280520285
>>280517698
>trash
>Lets kill this guy because he is on a bike, no other reason
Add everything Tomino ever touched to that list.
Anonymous No.280517754
>>280517649
>all the while people are dying
ask me how I know you're from /v/?
Anonymous No.280519008 >>280519232
I like IBO
Anonymous No.280519232 >>280519546 >>280523767
>>280519008
IBO is even worse than W.
Anonymous No.280519546
>>280519232
i don't share your opinion.
Anonymous No.280519957 >>280520004 >>280522332
>>280510255 (OP)
all gundam shows are great, nothing comes close to the stories that the franchises tell. I watched shitty mecha
>>280515532
It's a creative anti-war mecha remake of Wizard of the Oz, and the appeal is finding the parallels between the source material and the actual show. The five main pilots aren't developed because the real focus is on Zechs, Treize, and Relena. There's nothing wrong with having flat characters if it helps with the theme of the story.
>>280515840
Zeta's narrative was consistent. I thought that it was interesting that all factions had the same beliefs but were divided on how to execute it. It was tragic because of it.

People meme that Reccoa had a woman moment, but the show points out that she was mentally unwell over having PTSD and survivor's guilt from the one year war, becoming susceptible to fascists after they temporarily lovebombed her. The Titans also had the same goals of the AEUG, but believed that it should be done with force as opposed to free will. That's why they were funding programs that brainwashed people into being Cybernewtypes. She was probably a doomer who took the accelerationist pill
Anonymous No.280520004 >>280520243
>>280519957
>all gundam shows are great
I could see someone with autism actually believing this since they wouldn't be able to tell how all the characters have autism.
Anonymous No.280520243 >>280520285
>>280520004
It's a show for kids, none of their behavior is illogical nor irrational. Kamille is clearly a spoiled nepobaby, which is why he acts abrasive by skipping school and punching military officers only for his parents to free him. He comments that his parents give him gifts and favors but not actual love at the first episode.

He crossed the line by stealing the equivalent of a fighter jet.
Anonymous No.280520285 >>280520294
>>280520243
No tomino doesn't know how to write a human.
see >>280517729
Anonymous No.280520294 >>280520302
>>280520285
i dont remember that being in gundam, which show and episode?
Anonymous No.280520301
>>280510255 (OP)
War in the pocket is the only gundam worth watching.
Anonymous No.280520302 >>280520413
>>280520294
It's Aura Battler Dunbine, episode 1.
This is relevant because the Gundam creator Tomino made them both.
Anonymous No.280520413 >>280520430 >>280520451
>>280520302
they were negging him for being rich because they think that he's a dick for owning that vehicle, it's pretty normal behavior. you know how people vandalize cybertrucks by accusing the owners of being nazi?
Anonymous No.280520430 >>280520492
>>280520413
Bikes are not expensive, and killing someone for riding one is not normal human behavior.
Anonymous No.280520451 >>280520462
>>280520413
actually, a better example would be people's attitudes towards cyclists or protestors. drivers think that those two groups are spoiled people hogging the road and will endanger their lives over stupid petty shit
Anonymous No.280520462
>>280520451
Apples and oranges, neither of those are capable of moving at vehicle speeds and impede traffic.
Anonymous No.280520492 >>280520537
>>280520430
It's considered luxurious because it costs just as much as a cheap 4 door sedan. it's like buying an iphone over a PC that costs the same
Anonymous No.280520537
>>280520492
Look this is so stupid that you are not supposed to argue about it you are supposed to just agree that Tomino can't write humans.
Anonymous No.280520596 >>280523759
>>280517442
>waifu fight bait
you could have just made another thread for your SoL shit with a sprinkle of Gundam
Anonymous No.280520660
>>280513159
>Gwitch and not WfM
You a Wing fan trying to keep the thread from dying or a gcuck trying to false flag?
Anonymous No.280520672 >>280520684
Gundam wing is for girls
Anonymous No.280520684
>>280520672
why don't more watch it
Anonymous No.280522332 >>280523480
>>280519957
>all gundam shows are great
Age and Seed exist to refute your claim
Anonymous No.280522965
>>280510255 (OP)
Wing is terrible. It has a charismatic cast and cool looking grunts, but the actual show is a repetitive mess. The reason Wing can be remembered fondly is because of its concepts. When you actually experience the day to day of Wing it's enough to tear your hair out.
Anonymous No.280523480
>>280510255 (OP)
Being close to the quality of the Original isnt a good thing but Wing is downright slop compared to Zeta. Theres not a single character as liable to start a discussion as Reccoa or even Katz in Wing.

If anything comes close to Zeta its 00.

>>280522332
What happened to Age was tragic.
>Flit arc was boring then had a cool end with muh urine

>Asemu arc was pretty great,lots of hype on Asemus development with his struggle of not being an X Rounder

>Then fucking Kios arc starts out promisingthen Kio himself fucks up the entire thing by pretending filthy Vagans require any mercy after they killed the hag who was clearly going to /ss/ him
Anonymous No.280523759
>>280520596
That'd be redundant since a Gundam Wing thread is a waifu/husbando thread by default
Anonymous No.280523767
>>280519232
I share your opinion
Anonymous No.280523840 >>280523891
>>280510255 (OP)
Why the fuck do fandoms insist on being tribalist retards?

But speaking of Wing, fuck everyone who hated on Relena. Hail to the Queen.
Anonymous No.280523891
>>280523840
I don't hate Relena, but I do think she is a piss poor Sayla Mass.
Anonymous No.280524838 >>280524973
>>280510255 (OP)
Kill all Toonamifags
Anonymous No.280524973
>>280524838
This.
Anonymous No.280525522
Anonymous No.280527452
ZZ ruined Haman Karn's character and was a complete let down following Zeta. For that I can never forgive it.
Anonymous No.280527685 >>280527846 >>280528506
>Why did she do it?
1) Lady Une enjoys her job and wanted to have some fun.
2) Making sure he's dead and getting rid of the body. Efficient.
3) Fuck that guy.
Anonymous No.280527846 >>280529666
>>280527685
Rewatching this and Escaflowne I was suprised how goofy it is when I thought it was high art when I was a kid
I feel bad for my parents for making them watch it with me
Anonymous No.280528506
>>280527685
I'm wondering why someone would shoot a man after throwing him out of an aeroplane.
Anonymous No.280529666
>>280527846
You're parents probably appreciated the cartoons you were watching had *some* semblance of thought put into them.