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NEW Jump is OUT!
>>280528700 (OP)Lame. Why can't i link the threads?
I wish the mangaka had the balls to make a Persona reference
shillBlue is sucha snore
BLEAK Box becoming BASED again?
>>280528700 (OP)where's the illustrations by the legendary mangaka and that cuckold hori?
>>280529224dude doesn't want to feel worm inside her vagina
>Kaedegami author can't draw fight scenes
>Harukaze author is asleep because there's no fucking story in this shit. They are just ticking off all the checkmarks of what a shonen sports manga is. THERE'S NO EMOTIONAL CORE. THERE'S NO FRIENDSHIP BEING BUILT OR CHEMISTRY.
This batch sucks
That was a great Kagura chapter, very nice payoff for all this time spent on Samura's arc.
>>280529439Harukaze is still worse, haremfag
KNY movie tickets have begun to sell out across all theaters.
This thread WILL be chill.
2chan thread
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https://may.2chan.net/b/res/1335383976.htm
>>280529439>Everybody hype Harukaze's first chapter>Then the hype die after the second chapter>Everybody is hyping Kaedegami's first chapter>Then the hype fell off after 3 chapter>And the same happened with OtrThis is why you shouldn't be hasty with new series
Watch it and LEARN:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=60BH5_BNCmI
>>280529439No Chiyou's ass shot
>>280529450>They are just ticking off all the checkmarks of what a shonen sports manga is.
Kou feels manlier than Ichi...
>>280528700 (OP)Why are you forcing fanbase war between two series no longer in WSJ?
Ichi the Witch takes the chapter of the week for me. My top-3 is completed with Kagurabachi and One Piece. Very good chapters for Akane Banashi and Shinobigoto too. Nue's Exorcist has also been pretty fun this time
Kaedegami
>>280527854Ping-Pong Peril
>>280528456Me & Roboco
>>280529524
At this rate Nue's axe is gonna happens in february 2029
Author's comments
https://www.viz.com/blog/posts/mangaka-musings-07-13-2025
>>280529439I really liked this chapter though? It's still episodic which is normal at this point and it's introducing the next important character/quest so that's cool.
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>>280529439Because people only cared about Chiyou's ass and tits and only pretended to likr everything else.
man, OTR pacing is all over the place. majority of it is fine. but then you have hostage situation and---- its already resolved by the next page, and at the same time, releasing iron spirit too. there is no rhyme and reason, no set up or payoff.
and Six Horn is Ice's General. so we already speedrun that trope, huh.
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i read the second chapter out of pure pity but damn, this is so bad
nowadays jump doesn't even ask people to draw decently anymore, how low have we fallen
>>280529962handholding rape
Jump festa 2026 will be glorious for the new generation
>>280529963Lmao, this post reads like "i Iike everything, please don't fight among yourselves."
>>280529450Kaedegami draws fight scenes better than nue author.
None of the new series will break 10k
>>280530152not really, bad art manga got axed. so you never notice them. like bone collection. Bobobobobo next manga. ole golazo, etc/ A LOT manga have similar or worse art.
>>280530243Honestly? i don't even think he beat Kill blue (the worst in WSJ) on this category
>>280530193>>280530279Kill blue is ending this year.
>>280530117Yeah it's annoying because that looked like a genuine problem for Otr and the antagonist was actually winning, but then he just... gets faster and solves the problem immediately which makes the villain look weak. Why even have the hostage situation when you could have had Otr realize he can't fight him right now and focus his energy on the forge spirit?
>>280530193Kill blue might not get an anime (i would be surprised if it survive this year)
>>280530344I hope so, fucking finally. Most of the mag is garbage now.
>>280530409It clearly is surviving
>>280530461And it's clearly ending.
>>280530491Some of you said this last 2 arc
>>280530409He will
We got a new batch of flopper
>another Black Clover Spic threadI'll just post what I said in the other thread and head off to get something to eat. I might come back again if just to clown on you.
>>280527950Wrong. Toho, the biggest distributor in Japan, takes around 50%+ of the box office gross in most anime deals. Anime studios (like Ufotable) only get a slice of the profits via the production committee system. For Demon Slayer, the committee includes Aniplex (the investors), Shueisha (the IP owner), and Ufotable (the animators) and the split isn't even. Ufotable, being the animation contractor, is not the main beneficiary. That's why they have all these cafรฉs. They make money elsewhere BUT the animation.
If you're talking about "60%" going to the Japanese side collectively (i.e. Toho + committee), you'e still wrong. The studio doesn't get 60%. The distribution chain does and itโs split between many stakeholders.
Also, calling people "mongolids" (lol) while making fantasy accounting isn't a power move, it's an IQ test you just failed.
>He doesn't realize kny made ufotable open a global web shopNo one outside of your Discord echo chamber is buying Zenitsu plushies from the Ufotable shop at scale. Yes, Ufotable opened a shop. BUT...
>Target audience?Hardcore collectors.
>Follower count on Twitter?~100K.
>Meaningful global revenue?Basically nothing.
Compare that to:
>Marvel merchandise revenue in 2023 = $3.2B>Superman merchandise revenue in 2024 alone = estimated ~$700M across toy lines, licensed clothing, and promotional dealsEven Chainsaw Man outsold Demon Slayer in international merch spikes post-episode 1. Meanwhile, Demon Slayer's global toy sales are so poor, Bandai stopped expanding the Tamagotchi and sword toy lines overseas after 2021, lol.
>PLS PLS BUY KIYOSHIT, L-LOOK WE HAVE FUJOSHIT ELEMENT TOO
how are you gonna make ping pong a manga that can last long? it'd make more sense if it were about ping pong club.
>>280530193>WSJ is flopping and fans are now is desesperate for Jump festalmao
It's crazy. Shinobigoto would be a solid fucking battle shonen if the art look really good.
It's still gaining new audience so i guess it might still change the trajectory of it's future.
nice prison is very spooky this week
>>280530739I like the male character designs.
is this really my good old WSJ? what the FUCK happened? did women truly ruin another hobby yet again?
>>280530780I don't like the eyes. The fight scenes and the writing is doing a heavy lifting. I hope the author ART improves ALOT as time goes by
Haven't read since like ch 60 but what the hell happened to the art style?
>Try to copy Ichi's
And it failed
>>280530912funny how more emotional kgb and ichi are compared to nuecuck
>>280529934They want to be relevant again and KGBfags have so much free time, these schizos have been shitting up /wsj/ with off-topic posts
>>280530912The bottom panel is a recycled face im pretty sure i saw it before
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baseball
>>280530912This mangaka can't do anything original.
>>280530912>If only you knew how much I missed my dad right now
Look like no one is dumping Ekiden Bros chapter 3
maybe I'll do it
>>280530951Nue is way more emotional than KGB and Ichi are, retard.
>>280530993>chihiro smiling with tender eyesLiterally impossible.
>>280529439>Kiyoshi killer>Nue killersigh
>>280531041the only emotions there is in nue is cuckiness
>>280530994>This gonna be Daiya no AceI want to burn down this retard's house
>>280529917Maybe but Ichi really stepped it up this chapter
>>280530854Honestly what stopping me from reading it is how MC looks more feminine than Ichi
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also otr because why not
>>280530264Bone Collection art was bad but it wasn't that bad to be put alongside Bobobobobo and ole golazo, at least outside the last few chapters
Second...
>>280528545You mean... reruns of old arcs pulling high ratings on Fuji TV, one of the largest terrestrial broadcasters in Japan with no competition in that time slot?
I bet you didn't even look at the actual data you posted:
>Swordsmith Village (Sun)Runtime: 193 min
Rating: 8.8%
>Swordsmith (2nd ep) (Fri)Runtime: 166 min
Rating: 8.1%
>Entertainment DistrictRuntime: 168 min
Rating: 7.5%
A primetime rebroadcast of one of Japanโs biggest recent anime pulled in under 9% while Anpanman reruns pull 17%+ in the morning. You just posted evidence that Anpanman mops Tanjiro's huge forehead in ratings. Also: Fuji TV is a broadcast network, which always has higher baseline ratings. These aren't groundbreaking, this is average legacy IP engagement, not "domination."
It's also funny how you seem to forget this one detail:
>Sazae-san still airs weekly and gets ~6-8% every week for 50 years>Chibi Maruko-chan does the sameThis isn't "Kimetsu domination." Itโs "airing something popular on the most watched network in a good time slot."
Also: TV ratings =/= box office.
>>280530193Out of them all, I only give a shit about Ruri Dragon.
>Akane BanashiIt's too boring and repetitive. The art is nice, though.
>Kill BlueBoring art and boring plot.
>KagurabachiIt's genuinely trash. It tries to mimic other successful series way too much, the characters are bland, the protagonist has negative charisma and it has shit for all choreography, the action is mainly some impressive-looking spreads.
>Some exorcist slop mangaDon't care.
>"Otr you have to be flexible and crestive with your flames"
>Couldnt beat the ice general
>"I know... Ill just... BURN HARDER"
>NANI? MASAKA
Amazing stuff
>>280531119imagine being so triggered by someone liking a manga
chill out nuetard
>>280531183>more feminine>ichi wears a fuking neck collar
>>280531204Fuck off with your off-topic talks
All these seething about kimetsu and it's still going to pull insane nation wide numbers according to the most basic predictions. Literally low balling at around 200 million in japan.
>>280531185>that avatar>that commenti may whine about our local schizos and the shitposting but things like this remind me how scary the world outside of 4chan truly is
>>280530776I shouldn't like Nice Prison as much as I do
I think I like that it's getting through the objectives so rapidly, it knows its' on borrowed time so it's not worrying about stretching things out
>>280530738Jump festa is traditional, wdym by desperate?
>sakugafest
>got lotus juice
>but the OP is gross as shit and the song is meh
generational flop coming for gachiakuta
>>280530776This makes ping pong looks hundred times better in terms of drawing
>>280531294Poor Shin, he just keeps looking worse and worse.
>Kill Blue hater still here
KWAB
>>280531379Should I read it?
>>280531275Had a feeling I would find him in Kiyoshi's comment section and there he is
>>280531215Liking a shit manga is fine, brainlet retards have shit taste anyway
But comparing a literal garbage with a classic work that got featured in Koushien stadium? Imagine defending that level of retardation.
>>280528700 (OP)How did Saito managed to release four (4) flops in one batch?
>>280531271No one talks about it, autist. Read the new release chapters of current series instead
>>280531476and that's on top of otr/nice prison batch
>>280531432chill down buddy its just a comic book nothing serious
First look at Me & Roboco Volume 23 Cover.
>>280531476>>280531499here's your new golden generation bro
>>280531499and on top of Sid, Hakutaku, Embers and Beethoven...
>>280529286Damn, none of those views boost blacked clover sale numbers
>>280531432It's literally another manga that is nothing special, who cares
>>280531499>>280531476The bottom 6 ranks are going to be warm for a while
>open Otr chapter
>start with infodump right away
Kawaguchi just can't help himself.
>>280531476KAEDEGAMI will be FINE, they will LIVE and THRIVE despite hater.
>>280531593Kubo pls come back and save us
>>280531606I Will wait to see the September batch but 2025 might end up as a fucking hilarous year for jump
>>280531830your pic rel could work for nue or kill blue and they still exist
KINO Piece
Me and KINOco
SaKINOto Days
The Elusive Samurai
KINO Watch
BLEAK Box
AKINO-baNINO
KINO Blue
Nue's ExorSHIT
KINOrabachi
Ultimate Exorcist KINOshi
HORRENDUS-Ten!
Ichi the WINNER
KINObi Undercover
BAD Prison
Otr of the Flame
Harukaze WOuNd
KaedegaMID
Ekiden BLOWS
PEAK-Pong Peril
>>280531620How new are you? Are you old enough to be here?
>>280531851They still exist because Jump keep releasing FLOPS this whole time lmao
At this point I might even regret to have shit on Astro
>>280531865Should use this pic
>>280531830 instead
>>280531250No.
>>280531271>seethingLol. The only who seethes is the underage child who made a console war thread with MHA and some irrelevant, dead manga (Japan don't care about Black Clover) because your daily threads (I'd bet they're FULL of samefags, about 1-2 people talking to themselves mostly) are dead so you migrated. You also know nothing about film business and how the industry operates.
>Literally low balling at around 200 million in japan.Lmao. Thatโs not lowballing, that's science fiction. You just woke up, inhaled a bag of expired Mugen Train merch, and decided box office gravity doesn't apply anymore.
First off, Mugen Train made ยฅ40B (~$390M) in Japan during peak lockdown, when:
>there were no other blockbusters>theaters were empty, so rewatching was easy>people were desperate for any content.>it had a movie-style narrative with a finality>the government gave stimulus checks>and it had unprecedented media blitz coverage, down to literal government shoutoutsSwordsmith Village (2023)
>made ~ยฅ3.8B (~$25M)>with IMAX rollouts, with a dubbed release, with premiere hype, with bonus chaptersAnd guess what? It flopped internationally, and underwhelmed at home.
Hashira Training Arc (2024)
>final gross in Japan: less than ยฅ5.5B (~$35M)Down again. This time got beaten in multiple foreign territories by MHA filler. That's right, Tanjiro got bodied by a dead franchise.
There's zero sign of this thing pulling anything north of ยฅ10B-15B unless:
>they start selling literal crack with each ticket>Jurassic World gets banned from screens>Japan enters a second pandemic and locks people in the theaterAnd even then, it's a stretch because:
>Infinity Castle has long runtime (2h35m)>less rewatch value>not accessible to casuals>marketing already showing fatigue (as per trailer views vs earlier hype)>pushed into September to dodge Hollywood competition and it's getting eaten alive by Jurassic World 20 days after Infinity Castle drops
I am enjoying Harukaze so far. Itโs pretty by the numbers so far but since it got to an actual game now I hope to see it divert & become its own thing.
>>280531894I read it and it's just as generic as harukaze is, nothing remotely special
It's not the work of art caviar you think it is
>>280531830??? what??? KDG is more unique than otr. nue, hokazune, etc. jump dont have chinese aesthatic-and mythology right now.
>>280530117i liked the chapter but yeah, there just isn't any payoff. we barely met the dwarf chick two chapter ago and it's already going for the big hostage situation. it's like kawaguchi knows the basis of a plot but doesn't quite know how to apply the "glue" to hold them together.
this villain is close to being cool, but he was too little to late
>>280532077yeah this guy is full of shit
>>280530629>has to put kimetsu versus some of the major industry colossi like marvel and anpanman, implying it is in that league as a franchisemha could never
>>280532049This shit is way too gay
I refuse to read any more of it until the focus is back on the witches
>>280529286black clover won hard damn
>>280532077slapping chinese aesthetic doesn't suddenly make you unique, dumbass.
>>280532165>tfw ichifags thought it was haremshit and it turns out to be fujoshit insteadlmao
God, I wanna enjoy Otr, but there is just too much going on with the art.
>>280530738>fans are now is desesperatethe nigger in your pic is somehow more literate than you
>>280532194it does compared to other manga running in jump, like your precious generic garbage that is nue, retard.
>>280531934Predictions from non-copium adults in the room? Realistic Japan total: ยฅ10B-ยฅ14B ($65Mโ$95M) If it overperforms massively? Maybe ยฅ15B-ยฅ18B tops. ยฅ20B+? That's dreamland. Not a โlowball,โ a hallucination from a child who doesn't know anything about the film industry. Even the Japanese on Yahoo Japan say this movie will most likely make ยฅ15B because the Demon Slayer boom from 2020 waned off not to mention Japan are suffering from an economic collapse right now as we speak.
And once again: $200M in Japan = ยฅ31B. Not happening. That's 75% of Mugen Train's total, with none of Mugen Train's once-in-a-lifetime conditions. Not even Jujutsu Kaisen 0 could sniff that. You're really out here thinking every new Demon Slayer release gets a Get Out of Market Forces Free Card.
You can ride high, though. The crash is gonna be delicious. Especially when Jurassic World drops.
>>280532099same thing with his fight. other mangaka will spend this chapter only to hype up the villain. or even the whole arc. if you great writer. but he just speedrun the solution and the power up. there is like 3 different plot going and he resolved it all in few latest chapter.
>>280529772What are they saying?
>>280532099>we barely met the dwarf chick two chapter ago and it's already going for the big hostage situation.This but kaedegami
>>280532214you can give up now, it already suffers from shit ToC ranking anyway
>>280532165This new chapter was agressivly heterosexual though
you just have to subscribe to the believe that bakugami is female
even if bakugami is male it would make the chapter gay in a very masculine way
>>280532077Harukaze shit on Kaede on every chapter so far
>>280532241Ching chong, ching chang chong, faggot.
>>280532309??thats for comedy more than not. so never in serious danger. especially how it play, and with chiyou in owl form too.
>>280532378you're so mad, retarded nuecuck
>>280531830I take "generic but good" over "unique but complete ass" anytime.
I WILL MAKE A VOW.
If shinobi undercover gets a major studio to adapt the manga, it won't be another exister. IT WILL BE MAJOR HIT. The fact a literal who ch from last week trended reaffirms my belief
>>280532077Ichi just had a chink arc
>>280532354i shit on your face every time,.
>>280532194This.
Kdg is still the best of his batch but the bar is low
i can't wait for TOCs for the new batch to start coming out
surely baseballfags will continue to be so talkative with their super cool manga topping everything right?
>>280532422anon has gave up on kiyoshi and kaedegami
>>280532422>still voting for hotel of the flame
>>280532432hmm, thats racist. Kagami is likely japan. with their name characters and all.
>Shinobi does a railgun
First KGB with the antiSojo squad
Now Shinobi
When Ruri?
>>280531848september and november are last chances right?
>>280532077Otr is more unique than Kdg lol, what are you even saying
I swear these fags can't defend their series without bringing others
>>280529772Which WSJ manga have their own 2chan threads? Does One Piece?
>>280532523Yeah, but depending on november's batch, it may end up going into jump's next year.
Ichi and kgb both started on september's batch, maybe it'll be a repeat.
>>280532500Their name works the same to Mao Mao or Jinshi
>>280532269he needs to learn how to write good characters the reader can care about. that's his biggest failure.
velou in RH was barely interested in the world and the call to adventure. he was just along for the ride at best and needed to have his village burn. even then what was his goal? a vague "let's kill werewolves". grimm had a vague goal in "curing her curse" but she barely felt interested in her own plot.
otr has the same issue. otr himself is just kinda going through the motions "i guess i'll fight the ice kingdom now that i have fire powers".
he needs to have characters connected emotionally to their goal.
take luffy. he wants freedom and adventure. his emotional connection is the promise to shanks, the man who sacrificed an arm to protect him.
naruto, he wants to be hokage to earn the respect he never got growing up. goku, he embarks on a journey to find the dragon balls with a girl. one of the mcguffins is an important family memento.
otr has nothing. he has a sister back home and that's it. she is barely ever mentioned again after chapter 1.
>>280532500The message is very CCPcore, with religion being abolished, and that religion was a lot like opium, the queen just needed to step down and let the workers take control
>>280532467You are just gonna have the last 6 places taken by all the new series + Kill blue
>>280532506>When Ruri?I'm not sure Ruris even coming back
>>280532546they don't have generals but have threads for most new series as long as they're established
after a thread or two it's forgotten until next chapter
>>280532607surely Saito will prefer to sacrifice 1-2 older series first before sending his own batch to immediately die
>>280532537>norse slop which has been done a lot and has elbaf right nowNo one here is ready for when KDG pulls out the xianxia/wuxia sword riders
>>280532537OTR IS THE SLOPPEST SLOP THAT EVER SLOP.
elemental magic power system
Nation with elemental have conflict and one of them try to conquered ll
Spirit- loli form
TRAINING arc
KI-HAKI- secondary power system
SWORD
Sword with elemtal power
human- demon - dwarf- race
>>280532664I think Kaede might make it, it's the only decent one out of the batch.
>>280532664Believe it or not but Ping Pong
>>280532664Please be Ping pong burrying his batchmates pls pls pls
>>280528700 (OP)I can't believe we're like 10 chapters from the end of Kill Blue and Juzo's daughter never came into play.
>>280532578so it's completely different since the queen ruling is the point and everyone is cool with it?
>>280532680Literally better than the exorcist slop that is Kaedegami
The last time we saw this guy was chapter 67
>>280532747Thats just window dressing to not be as blatant, but the core message is there
>>280532680Settle down han, no need to get mad.
>>280532537>ice people bad fire melt ice fire goodTruly the paragon of creativity
>Otr
>Kdg
>Harukaze
>Nice Prison
>Ping pong
>Ekiden
>>280532675Speaking of i'm not totally convinced Otr won't go slightly xianxia, specifically in that I think it will turn out this whole ice kingdom conflict is all small players in the grand scheme out things and once otr has overcome it all he will move onto a conflict of the next tier of power level
>i want to have a sexy companion
>no, i want to have a mascot
>no, i want to have a sexy companion
>no, i want to have a mascot
this is kdg.
>>280532842TOC will be fun in a few week
>>280532751now you just pure hating. with how you clearly dont have any good one reason at all. i will not engage in this superficial bigotry
>>280532214>but there is just too much going on with the art.the fuck is wrong with you people? how come you cant read a manga unless half the page is white?
>>280532323every majick has been male (sissy) until now and I expect it to continue this way
>>280532876Works for Witch Watch
>>280532862I LOVE RUNNING
>>280532842ALL OF THEM NEED THE AXE
>>280532901why you all limit yourself with gender??? majik is magic-being. who care about their gender. its all about their personality.
Kaedegami is so funny. It went from having so many new fanarts to having none.
>>280532842>Batch of 4>Release 3 spokonThat was a really good idea huh
>>280533004also they didnt reproduce, sexually or not. they just spawn.
>>280532972>MOVIE Airing>sales keep decreasing as if nothing happenedCSM bros, I'm utterly scared...
>>280532972>movie air>sales drop>s2 announced???
>>280532162Reality check: Demon Slayer wants to be in that league. It mimics blockbuster strategies. But it doesn't have:
>the market diversification>the long-term brand power>or the financial stabilityTo actually compete there. It's cosplaying global dominance, not living it. Marvel (even in its slump) does:
>$600M-$1B+ per movie regularly>with zero reliance on any one country>with built-in home media, toy, game, streaming profit chains>and nearly two decades of continuous cinematic IP generationDemon Slayer:
>is totally Japan-dependent (90% of Mugen Train's revenue came from Japan)>loses steam every year after Mugen Train>has no real global merch ecosystem (unless you count niche Aniplex webstores that sell out because of limited supply, not demand)>and will end after Sunrise Countdown, it's a time-limited IPThat's not Marvel tier, that's Fate/stay night with better animation and a stronger launch window. Also, LOL @ saying Demon Slayer is "in the same league as Anpanman." Possibly the biggest self-own imaginable.
Anpanman:
>has been running since 1988>dominates toddlers to grandparents>has over 30 movies released>generates billions in merch every year>is literally used by the Japanese government in social programsDemon Slayer:
>will be done in 2 more arcs>has maybe 3-4 movies total by the end>cannot sell outside Asia at volume>and collapsed internationally post-Mugen TrainThey're not even in the same solar system, let alone the same league.
Meanwhile, MHA:
>doesn't chase IMAX or red carpets or award-season cosplay (Aniplex tried to submit Mugen Train into the Oscars and were laughed out of the building)>quietly racks up $50M+ movie grosses for literal filler>got a Hollywood LA with Legendary Pictures (same as Godzilla, Dune, Detective Pikachu)>has a growing streaming and licensing footprint>has consistent momentum without needing event gimmicksIt's not trying to be Marvel. Itโs trying to be durable. And that's the key difference.
>>280528700 (OP)>Hey Chihiro what do you think about the current state of jump?
It feels a bit too soon to be having these kinds of stats...
>>280532972>Spade Kingdomyou just can't make this shit up
>>280533314>Everything max out.nigga, this is only ch 4. WTF
>>280533314GoLdeN GenERaTiON.
>>280533294>He thinks he has a choice
If kaedegami cant survive the early axe, i can't imagine the rest of the batch
>>280533004I see no T&A. also the shark is an Okama in the nip version
Ping Pong is pretty good but holy shit the art is pretty atrocious, the author can't even be consistent with it
Can I get a reminder of which wsj series started in 2025? for curiosity of course
>>280533314>Who says that the stat chart stays within the circle
>>280533416It will survive along with Harukaze but they will just worsen jumpโs current state
w-where's the blue box thread...
>>280532689This. The other three are DOA
>>280532862Advanced Long Distance Running Strat: Prevent nipple bleeding by not having nipples.
Kimetsu manga sales? Doesnt count
Kimetsu tv ratings? Doesnt count
Kimetsu being recommended by several all star mangaka? Doesnt count
Kimetsu first movie selling well? Doesnt count
Kimetsu re caps doing well? Doesnt count
Kimetsu merch sales? Doesnt count
Kimetsu in school text books? Doesnt count
Kimetsu recognized by JP's Prime Minister? Doesnt count
Kimetsu boosting Japan's economy? Doesnt count
Kimetsu being played at the Olympics? Doesnt count
Kimetsu loved overseas? Doesnt count
Kimetsu IF trailer views? Doesnt count
Kimetsu pre sale tickets selling out left and right? Doesnt count
Kiyoshi thread died with 22 posts. A new low. Axe soon.
>>280533444>Timber>Beethoven >Otr>Nice prison>Harukaze mound>Kaedegami>Ping Ping peril>Ekiden bros
>>280532432It was literally japan
https://may.2chan.net/b/res/1335320375.htm
>the Japanese are still shitposting about Time Paradox Ghostwriter
Warms my heart to see an axed series live on like this
2ch opinions on the new batch, they mostly talk about the ping pong manga.
Ping pong
>a fun mess, I love it!
>It will survive!
>Pingpong is fun but the table tennis element isn't
Ekiden
>Good story but the art is homosexual
>Ekiden needs to close his mouth
>The story is interesting but I can't stand male athletes just suddenly undressing
Harukaze
>It's bland
>The author is weak at writing
>The smell of death is strong this week
Kaedegami
>Clean art so it's easy to read
>Kaedegami can draw handsome men too
and many mythology and folk lore related talks...
>>280533524Harukaze>Kaede>>The rest
>Another sit-less chapter of Kaedegami
>>280533024>so many new fanartsWhere?
>>280533666>Two of them will likely do worse than Kaedegami in sales
>>280533605>Nothing above 15k so farLmao
>>280532806kudos for your backtracking championship. bravo sir
>>280533666Kaedegami can easily have KB be its cushion if the author went for Chiyou's fanservice
>>280533638As someone who did track & cross country Ekiden having guys just randomly stripping is the most normal thing ever. It could be 100 degrees to 20 and someone would not have a shirt on.
>>280533638Kaedagami is the winner.. i told you. the chapter is great. a/ is just full of shit.
Rehashing the cover process, but with Sakamoto as the example.
>2025 shitters are fighting
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>>280533845Too bad it started itโs mascot shit at chapter 2
>>280533937To be fair I do think Ping Pong is pretty amusing in it's first two chapters, but I thought that about Beethoven, too. It's just not a manga I can see ever becoming a hit or even a success.
>>280533970>Somewhere out there is a sketch of this cover with Akane instead of Nico, and it'll never see the light of day
>>280534054There's no data yet so the author wasn't in a rush to shove fanservices into our face
>>280533907Maybe it would be well-received if the artist was good at drawing men bodies
>>280534269Ort artist really should partner with a competent writer
>>280534269Now this is a good spread
>>280533907or sports in general.
>>280533588>Kimetsu manga sales? Doesnt countYeah, because they don't anymore. DS's manga hasn't sold a single new volume in four years. Every boost was:
>during its peak boom (2019-2021)>from anime-triggered back catalog surges>and followed by massive drop-offs after the anime cooledCompare it to One Piece or JJK where volume-to-volume retention exists and DS's sales graph looks like a cliff dive after the anime finale.
>Kimetsu tv ratings? Doesnt countCool, Fuji TV aired a special rerun marathon and scored decent household ratings in a low-competition timeslot. And let's not act like Japan hasn't crowned Sazae-san king of TV for decades. Ratings in Japan are heavily tied to time slot and legacy trust, not necessarily cultural dominance.
Meanwhile, where's the international discussion about those reruns? Oh right, nowhere. Because they don't matter outside Japan, and even within Japan, re-airing old arcs doesn't scream "franchise growth."
>Kimetsu being recommended by several all star mangaka? Doesnt countYou mean the same all-star mangaka who recommend dozens of Jump series? You got:
>Togashi recommending TPN>Hori hyping World Trigger>Oda shouting out Mashle>Kishi praising KagurabachiThis is Jump marketing cycle 101, not a holy anointment. They promote everything with a pulse. DS's manga was underperforming for 3 years until Ufotable dragged it to relevance with sakuga sorcery.
>Kimetsu first movie selling well? Doesnt countIt *does* count -- as the peak of a bubble. Mugen Train was:
>released during Japan's post-Covid theater drought>the first major anime-only theatrical continuation>a perfect storm of timing, emotion, and no competitionAnd yet... every movie since then has performed worse. That's not "franchise strength." Thatโs a flash in the pan.
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>>280534478>And yet... every movie since then has performed worse. That's not "franchise strength." Thatโs a flash in the pan.Or the fact you keep avoiding, it hasn't had a single movie since mugen train.
Superman confirmed to have done worse than quantumania's opening weekend and will struggle to reach 500 million btw
Has Gege ever praised any new series in wsj so far?
>>280534304This is a movie that isn't going to pull insane numbers.
Roboco is officially longer than Undead Unluck
>>280533638> ekiden readers are all homophobes> kaedegami readers are all gaypretty on brand
>>280534641He โrecommended โ mamayuyu. (got paid)
>>280532866I'm not convinced otr will live long enough to do that
>>280533588>Kimetsu re caps doing well? Doesnt countYou mean 'doing well' by getting beaten overseas by MHA filler? A recap film doing okay in Japan where literally any anime can pull decent numbers with IMAX trickery is not a flex. It's marketing inflation, not content success.
>Kimetsu in school text books? Doesnt countViolet Evergarden was also in Japanese school text books, as was Oreimo among other series. Demon Slayer is not unique in that aspect.
>Kimetsu recognized by JP's Prime Minister? Doesnt countPR stunt. Japan's new PM Ishiba Shigeru dressed up as Majin Buu for the opening ceremony of a figure museum once.
>Kimetsu boosting Japan's economy? Doesnt countJapan's economy has been so bad they counted capsule toy sales as GDP contributors. Demon Slayer boosting anything was just a symptom of a media-starved pandemic bubble. Same thing happened with:
>Yo-Kai Watch>Frozen>Evangelion 3.0None of them remained economic pillars after 3 years.
>Kimetsu being played at the Olympics? Doesnt countAt this point, you're listing state-mandated cultural moments, not global dominance. The Olympics shoutout came from Japan, for Japan, during its only relevant year, 2020. Meanwhile:
>One Piece was repped by Olympians internationally>JJK was shouted out in the Paris Olympics>Naruto cosplay made international TVDemon Slayer never got that love again. Even at peak, it wasn't organic. It was manufactured domestic hype.
>Kimetsu pre sale tickets selling out left and right? Doesnt countBecause you capped the number of tickets to boost artificial scarcity and anime fans pre-order like it's idol merch. Let's wait for those actual box office legs before screaming "record-breaking." This is the Swordsmith Village scam all over again: fake IMAX "event" rollout, big opening... then flatline internationally.
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>>280534703He dropped the ball by remove mamama from main cast! so screw him!
>>280528700 (OP)jump weekly outside
>>280528700 (OP)jump weekly outside
>>280534304dont just post nonsense without explanation!
>>280534875State of movie theaters for kimetsu's screenings, white is available.
They became available for preorder today.
>>280534875>Ticket sales for the premiere screening,starting at midnight on Friday, July 18, have begun.
>>280534304Japan's movie event of the year after all.
>>280534912>>280534935thanks/ cant wait to see jimbo have stroke and cant type anymore.
>>280533608it literally had an opium crisis and ended with religion being abolished
>>280535021It could unironically do better than mugen train and he'd still find a way to spin it poorly.
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>>280532675>flying swordsSo it's a xianxia thing? The more you know...
>>280535021Implying he types all those walls of text
Kill Blue - 40,587
Ichi The Witch - 195,527
Kagurabachi - 249,641
Otr of the Flame - 136,537
Nue's Exorcist - 37,769
Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi - 71,601
Shinobi Undercover - 64,786
Hima-Ten - 99,806
Kaedegami - 162,567
>>280535100It's impossible because he takes a solid 20 minutes between replies, which means he just feeds it to some ai until he gets a proper answer.
The TRULY sad part is that he mass reports through several ips everyone who argues with him, so it's not like he even wants to talk.
>>280535081its more wuxia since its an evolution of the trope of "his sworsmanship is so powerful he doesnt even need to wield the sword to control it"
How come noone made a Harukaze Mound thread?
>>280530739The art looks great, are you retarded
>>280532751>exorcist slopLmao
Lmfao
There isn't a single trace of exorcist slop in KDG storyline, there's nothing to 'exorcist' and MC doesn't kill monsters because they're threat to humans
Why you retard keep lumping KDG with Nue when they're obviously two different genres?
>>280534821You are never going to convince anyone that your fucked up third world math means the recaps got beat by MHA filler movie. Its time to let it go.
>>280535313Hayabusa is the most attractive Shinobigoto character. There, I said it.
>>280535258It's dying so why bother?
>>280535258>sportslopwhen's the last time anyone cared about a sportslop manga on /a/
some said, TOHO site died after midnight. add another to KNY's mysticism. imagine sold out after a minute.
Harukaze's biggest problem is the existence of other Jump baseball manga and all of them already have dedicated fanbases even though Strikeout Pitch is pretty new.
>>280532751the only exorcism slop is nue
kdg isn't even about the generic japanese exorcism
>>280534304Clearly just psyop bots hired by Aniplex because KnY is dead and forgotten after all.
Sexiest villain in Jump family right now.
>>280535131Kaedegami above Otr, wow
this is never gonna fucking end is it? I'm not even mad just shocked it lasted this long
>>280535701That's not the problem, baseball fans will always try out other baseball manga. HM problem is being shit and author doesn't know how to write
>>280529439The fact that the author legit can't draw actions scenes nor fight.
And also the duolingo
>>280535430>Why you retard keep lumping KDG with Nue when they're obviously two different genres?Ask all these people
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/Kdg%20better%20than%20nue/
>>280535131What about 3 other sport series? Lower than Nue?
>>280535977The fights aren't that bad imo but the story is kinda boring.
>>280535430>>280536018Nue is garbage exorcism slop, KDG isn't and actually does something original. That's the difference. KDG isn't exorcism.
>>280534528>Or the fact you keep avoiding, it hasn't had a single movie since mugen train.Wrong. Swordsmith Village arc released as a theatrical event internationally and in Japan. Aniplex marketed it like a film:
>IMAX release? Check>Dolby rollout? Check>Global dub/sub premieres? Check>Press tour with cast? CheckYou can try calling it "TV episode compilation," but it was sold, distributed, and marketed like a movie. You can't sell someone a Big Mac and then scream "but that wasn't a meal!" when they complain it tasted like a stale reheat. Even Hashira Training got the same treatment. You think that shit was airing in IMAX for the vibes?
So don't play the "there hasnโt been a movie" card. Theyโve been testing waters for years, and nothing since Mugen Train has come close to recreating its box office magic. That's the point.
>Superman confirmed to have done worse than quantumania's opening weekend and will struggle to reach 500 million btwDo you even math, bro? Or just post with your feelings? Quantumania made $104M opening weekend in the US and fell off a cliff. Superman has already made $123M in the US by Day 2 and $96M+ internationally, which means it's already sitting around $219M+ global in two freaking days. That's already a better trajectory than:
>The Marvels>Quantumania>The Flash>Blue Beetle>Shazam 2Hell, it's outpacing Man of Steel which finished at $668M. Superman 2025 is clearly headed to $600M+, maybe even more depending on legs. That's a W no matter how you slice it. Also, Quantumania bombed because of:
>awful word of mouth>frontloaded core fanbase>and no overseas strengthSuperman is:
>getting positive buzz>pulling monster day-1s in UK/Mexico/Brazil/India>holding better domestically>and doesn't need China or Japan to carry it.This ain't Quantumania 2: Kryptonian Boogaloo.
>>280536018Dunno why this guy is always mindbroken by Nue
>>280536092I think it's boring for westernfags that aren't well-versed in asia's myths or folklores
>>280535977I think KDG mangaka is studying hard on drawing fight scenes as we speak, this weak point is too obvious
>>280534304Cool, people are preordering for Infinity Castle. You know what else sold out in seconds and then flopped internationally? Swordsmith Village. Preorders = hype, not box office reality.
>t-the seats are selling!!Congrats, it's the most hyped IP in Japan... in Japan, rofl. That's never been the debate. The issue is:
>it flops internationally>it can't hold screens past Week 2>it's releasing in September, the dump month, far from awards season or prime box office windowsAlso, a ton of these seat maps are for premiere day: anime fans are always frontloaded. What happens after the fans go? That's when legs matter. And legs = where Demon Slayer consistently fails since 2021.
>>280535063>i-it could unironically do better than Mugen Train!!It won't. It's:
>releasing in a crowded market>coming after audience fatigue>being slotted right before Jurassic World>carrying a 2h35m runtime (fewer screenings per day)>and it's a multi-part arc, not a single climax event like Mugen TrainYou'd need Jesus Christ animating on 1s to even touch Mugen Train's numbers, and even then, it's not happening overseas.
>>280536302>And legs = where Demon Slayer consistently fails since 2021.Maybe because... it hasn't released anything that isn't some episodes stitched together since then.
>>280536137But is KDG better than Nue??
Wait a fucking moment, Hima-Ten's at chapter 50? When did the time go?
>>280536358Nue is shit. Anything is better than Nue.
>>280536018I do think KDG is better than Nue in general (artstyle, characterization, world building,...) but I don't care about Nue enough to shit on it. Meanwhile hating on KDG for being an 'exorcist' slop is just shitposting without actually reading the manga
>>280536092boring for you, braindead. its actually have interesting lore and myth, and the story so far is short and sweet.
also based on 2chan thread, its clear that they into the mythology. thats great, they didnt complain about the art, chars or plot. unlike otr, they straight up having good time.
how long until another jump series gets a set
>>280536447I mean Nue IS pretty bad in terms of everything (combat drawings are literally just bad, way worse than kaedegami, story is boring as fuck and bad, characters personnalities are just the same as any other harem manga girls and cliche as fuck, main character has that weak as fuck personality that makes him unlikeable, drawings are poopy and half the time the characters are drawn chibi mode without details, like really surprising people are shitting on kaedegami which does fine for it's drawing but not shitting on nue.
>>280536572I think Nue draw better fight tho, honestly it's not hard.
>>280536649Show me some Nue panel with nice drawn fights? I can't remember any.
>>280536572how do you expect nue fan to shit on nue??
its clear from the start that KDG hater and critique is just superficial and lame
My Jeremy cope compliation is coming along great.
>>280536370But is KDG better than Himaten??
>>280536572>nobody shit on nueLmao
>>280534304Great, another meltdown coming. Just what this thread needs.
>>280536831To be fair, it's the same, continued meltdown, it just keeps evolving and evidence cornering jeremy piles up.
>>280535536Harukaze was bad this week. It shouldve put a lot of emphasis on the opposibg team, the difference in their teams and the opposing players. There wasnt much of that. I retract my statement and put it right into axewatch with Ekiden.
Kaede was pretty mediocre too but it still stays afloat the axe line for me. Otr had a good chapter, better than last week's for sure. Ping Pong's artstyle is off-putting to me but so far it's interesting and keeps up the momentum. These 3 live imo.
>>280536649Aside from Kill Blue (from what i remember of it), anyone in jump draw better fights than Kdg, it's not just his forte
>>280534194And that's a good thing. Good riddance.
>>280536681Nue fights aren't that good but they're better than Kaede. Nue is dragged down by the weird style choice with the heavy blacks used to portray the powers.
>>280534269This is much better than the jumbled ice in the previous fight. This is much clearer and has a strong sense of movement.
Did Kawaguchi cocksuckers jump ship to KDG? They defend the manga the exact same way
>>280537113We still here nigga
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BTW, the Black Clover cuck is NOT going to like this, lmao. It seems like my predictions are coming true after all (again).
>https://chomanga.org/archives/395818
For context:
This post revolves around the announcement of 5 million giveaway items for Infinity Castle, with the "break-even line" stated as 7 billion yen (~$45-50M). But here's the kicker:
>These handouts are NOT cheap to produce or distribute
>Studios and exhibitors only throw this much bonus merch early when they know they need to frontload hard
>They're not doing this because the movie is so popular it sells itself. They're doing this because it won't without help.
And here are some of the comments in the thread:
>"Feels like itโll need to hit 13 billion yen at least"
Translation: Even hardcore Japanese fans are setting bare-minimum bar expectations around 10-13B yen. That's less than half of Mugen Train.
>"70 billion yen = 5 million admissions"
Translation: They're literally tying ticket handouts to how much it needs to earn to save face.
>"This art stand? Mid."
Translation: Merch being mocked = low perceived value = less incentive for non-hardcore fans to show up.
>"Itโll need to sell out those 5M giveaways in 1-2 weeks"
Aka, this is heavily frontloaded. If it doesn't hit big out the gate, momentum's dead.
>"20-25 billion maybe... 15 is the lowest it should go"
Translation: 15-20 billion yen is where expectations are set, not predictions. These numbers come with pressure. Anything below 200 will be seen as a stumble, especially if Fanastic Four and Jurassic World steals legs.
>"Mugen Train's 40 billion was because of Covid conditions."
Self-awareness from Japanese fans unlike Westoid fans. They know that original boom was a freak phenomenon, not replicable.
>"Just a sheet of paper?"/"Spy x Family only got 4 million bonuses, lol"
Even Japanese otaku understand this is all part of the merch-push hamster wheel, not genuine demand.
>>280537113Stay malding, faggot.
Kagurabachi more like Flopperabachi.
>>280536977we'll never know what kind of gamer she is
>>280537184>especially if Fanastic FourA bigger flop than superman incoming.
>didn't even hit 3 million on its first weekend>overseas numbers are generally awful>dead in china>will struggle to hit 500 million
>>280537217FLOPPAmoto Days.
>>280537184Yeah, can you imagine promoting your own movie and giving out stuff?
Abd it's going to do 200 million with ease, but nice if you to backtrack from
>120 tops
>>280536986>Nue fights aren't that goodThey're literally shit. And no they're way worse than Kaede. If we compare first 4 chapters of both manga, Kaedegami's fights are way better.
>>280528700 (OP)deku, as usual is submissive and breedable
>>280537411Lowkey i feel like Kdg's are actually worse
>>280537480>Lowkeygo back to xitter
>>280537184Thanks for providing the source so I can read the entire thread and how you cherrypicked comments. 7b is chump change. Its making that back easily.
>>280536277>boring for westernfagsIts doing better on M+ than Otr, which is the westerncoreshit
>>280537213Literally about to get axed retard lmfao
Man oh man. This year keeps getting better and better. I was right about all of my box office predictions thus far, I was right about Trump winning and I'd be right too about Infinity Castle not even touching Mugen Train. My predictions landed HARDER than Tanjiro getting dropped into a real blockbuster market.
>"Demon Slayer can't replicate Mugen Train success."
CONFIRMED. Even its own fans admit that ยฅ40B is a dream. Most are now clinging to ยฅ15-20B as the "save face" range, which is half of what Mugen Train pulled during a pandemic boost. It's sliding from cultural juggernaut to just another seasonal anime event.
>"Franchise fatigue is setting in."
CONFIRMED. The giveaways are at MHA levels of desperation now, and the trailer views (lol @ 11M in 7 months vs Mugen's 40M) scream that mainstream casuals aren't showing up anymore. It's now just running on the fumes of hardcore local fans.
>"International appeal is evaporating."
CONFIRMED. Swordsmith Village flopped hard globally, and there's no strong evidence Infinity Castle will reverse that. Mugen Train was a one-time anomaly. Outside of Japan, Demon Slayer is no longer an event, it's content filler at best.
>"Hollywood IPs (Superman/Fantastic Four) would undercut its box office footprint."
CONFIRMED. Superman literally came in swinging, taking premium screens, dominating LATAM and Europe, and now heading toward a $600-750M run with no Japan reliance. Meanwhile, Demon Slayer is praying for $45M break-even with 5 million handouts.
>"Jurassic World will be the real threat in Japan."
Itโs not even out yet, and already people are discussing Demon Slayer's need to frontload and finish early. That means the box office legs won't last through Jurassic's rollout. I already predicted Demon Slayer would shift release dates or screen strategies to avoid competition and that's EXACTLY what Aniplex did.
>>280537772More like Ichi the FUCKBOY, amirite? :^)
>>280537807>CONFIRMED. Superman literally came in swinging, taking premium screens, dominating LATAM and Europe, and now heading toward a $600-750M run with no Japan reliance..... actually check that again. Dead in europe, barely ok in LATAM, will struggle to even hit 600 million since it had an opening worse than quantumania.
The funniest thing about Kokuho surpassing Superman is that Kokuho's runtime is damn near 3 fucking hours. So much for the runtime cope.
KGBT thread died the moment it stopped being constantly necrobumped
>>280530776>Clown rape. Picked up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP7la6a1H1g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dq21OHPJTk
Kagurabachi's anime is in good hands.
>>280537990Hikaru's direction is on fucking point.
Ehm, whatโs the best site to follow Knys box office? I remember when Mugen train came out, there was a forum that was updating every single day with numbers and the guy who did was corpse something. Here I highly doubt thereโs gonna be people tracking everything compared to that guy.
>>280538137Someone will do it on x, no worries about that.
>>280537961STOP THE COUNT
You can feel it in the silence, Jimbo trying to write a post.
>seething about KnY, but cannot hide his irrational hatred for Black Clover
You're literally the ONLY person I've ever seen seething and hating on BC, when are you going to stop samefagging?
>>280537807>Its heading towards $600 - $750M runAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Which series is getting CP next week?
oh, i didn't realize until now that you can buy jump issues from back to 2014 in the jump+ app
Is all kaede really needs to get its footing just better fight choreo? The mc is already a based chinkoid who will bash your skull in or kill you for pissing him off so the pieces are already there in that regard, maybe the mangaka will learn how to properly show a fight when it's time for the real intro arc villain fight and not random shitters
>>280539670Told you it already shot itself in the foot chapter 1
Author blew his load with the face reveal climax, now there's no investment in anything past that
>>280536092The story just started. Next week is a lore dump where Kou and Chiyou will learn about the wereabout of her missing parts and the potential reveal of more serious bad guys.
>>280539670Fight choreo was bad ever since chapter 1 but I didn't mind so far. This latest chapter still had bad action but I don't care that much either, but if the conflict resolution is always fight/action oriented then its just gonna be a constant showcase of the author's weak points.
I hoped he would go for a more strategic resolution to the conflict.
>>280537857This week's chapter confirmed that Ichi exclusively tops.
>>280529533>Cool, battle hardened, blind warrior>Retard, clueless, ex-blind bum
Our WINNERS anime studios
>>280540322Ruri will get bind
>>280539829should've done this at chapter 8 (end of volume 1)
>>280540361>RuriI know what you think anon
Although this would be a great combinaison
>>280540322I still can't get over how Cygames decided to pick up KGB, aren't they a gacha anime studio so why pick up a shonen series?
>>280540463They see the vision.
The summer Hikaru died is pretty good, for those who know, are the animators in house or freelancers?
>>280540463Same reason they picked up (and arr delivering super hard) Hikaru
They want to become a real anime studio that isn't just gachashit.
This TES chappy was boring AS FUCK
>>280530837What the hell?
Captcha: H0M0X
>>280530854They all have the same face, and that face is of a mentally challenged person.
>>280530837the face amd shoulder are garbage, the armpit looks too skeletical, this isnt muscle, this is malnutrition
>>280531767>autismAnd not the good one.
>>280540852It also looks flat, dude can't portray volumes well.
>>280540127He switches with Gokuraku.
>>280532049>Don't touch my boyfriend
>>280540852That's how pro runners look like. They burn calories like crazy from running all the time and focuss their training on gaining stamina over muscle mass.
>>280532862>no nipplesyeah.
not even fujos/yumes can save this trash
>>280533314bit too soon for such gimmicks too.
the editor isn't doing their job properly and just letting the author cram as much shit as possible
>>280532862His face don't match with the body, it's disturbing
>>280530837Ew holy shit. Women don't wanna see this either
>>280532862Yaybro, can you please?
>>280533638>Harukaze >It's bland >The author is weak at writing >The smell of death is strong this weekI really thought the series would do well since they already had a oneshot that they can polish/reiterate with before, but no.
It's like the author hasn't touched a baseball manga before.
WSJ new series in 2025 are full of shit oh my god, hope the september batch is good
>>280540742>>280540925I doubt he even care if it at low rank when he planned to finish it.
>>280541441it looks better than previous batch or nue and kill blue
I'll post this again. Just because I can do whatever the FUCK I want, especially I'm a shitpost console war spic thread.
>>280527950Wrong. Toho, the biggest distributor in Japan, takes around 50%+ of the box office gross in most anime deals. Anime studios (like Ufotable) only get a slice of the profits via the production committee system. For Demon Slayer, the committee includes Aniplex (the investors), Shueisha (the IP owner), and Ufotable (the animators) and the split isn't even. Ufotable, being the animation contractor, is not the main beneficiary. That's why they have all these cafรฉs. They make money elsewhere BUT the animation.
If you're talking about "60%" going to the Japanese side collectively (i.e. Toho + committee), you'e still wrong. The studio doesn't get 60%. The distribution chain does and itโs split between many stakeholders.
Also, calling people "mongolids" (lol) while making fantasy accounting isn't a power move, it's an IQ test you just failed.
>He doesn't realize kny made ufotable open a global web shopNo one outside of your Discord echo chamber is buying Zenitsu plushies from the Ufotable shop at scale. Yes, Ufotable opened a shop. BUT...
>Target audience?Hardcore collectors.
>Follower count on Twitter?~100K.
>Meaningful global revenue?Basically nothing.
Compare that to:
>Marvel merchandise revenue in 2023 = $3.2B>Superman merchandise revenue in 2024 alone = estimated ~$700M across toy lines, licensed clothing, and promotional dealsEven Chainsaw Man outsold Demon Slayer in international merch spikes post-episode 1. Meanwhile, Demon Slayer's global toy sales are so poor, Bandai stopped expanding the Tamagotchi and sword toy lines overseas after 2021, lol.
>>280541479They are all shit, 2025 might be the worst year for WSJ if september flop
Second...
>>280528545You mean... reruns of old arcs pulling high ratings on Fuji TV, one of the largest terrestrial broadcasters in Japan with no competition in that time slot?
I bet you didn't even look at the actual data you posted:
>Swordsmith Village (Sun)Runtime: 193 min
Rating: 8.8%
>Swordsmith (2nd ep) (Fri)Runtime: 166 min
Rating: 8.1%
>Entertainment DistrictRuntime: 168 min
Rating: 7.5%
A primetime rebroadcast of one of Japanโs biggest recent anime pulled in under 9% while Anpanman reruns pull 17%+ in the morning. You just posted evidence that Anpanman mops Tanjiro's huge forehead in ratings. Also: Fuji TV is a broadcast network, which always has higher baseline ratings. These aren't groundbreaking, this is average legacy IP engagement, not "domination."
It's also funny how you seem to forget this one detail:
>Sazae-san still airs weekly and gets ~6-8% every week for 50 years>Chibi Maruko-chan does the sameThis isn't "Kimetsu domination." Itโs "airing something popular on the most watched network in a good time slot."
Also: TV ratings =/= box office.
>>280530193Out of them all, I only give a shit about Ruri Dragon.
>Akane BanashiIt's too boring and repetitive. The art is nice, though.
>Kill BlueBoring art and boring plot.
>KagurabachiIt's genuinely trash. It tries to mimic other successful series way too much, the characters are bland, the protagonist has negative charisma and it has shit for all choreography, the action is mainly some impressive-looking spreads.
>Some exorcist slop mangaDon't care.
>>280541223He actually has muscle there, Eikiden MC is too much like a skeleton
WSJ will never have another million seller at this rate
>>280531250No.
>>280531271>seethingLol. The only who seethes is the underage child who made a console war thread with MHA and some irrelevant, dead manga (Japan don't care about Black Clover) because your daily threads (I'd bet they're FULL of samefags, about 1-2 people talking to themselves mostly) are dead so you migrated. You also know nothing about film business and how the industry operates.
>Literally low balling at around 200 million in japan.Lmao. Thatโs not lowballing, that's science fiction. You just woke up, inhaled a bag of expired Mugen Train merch, and decided box office gravity doesn't apply anymore.
First off, Mugen Train made ยฅ40B (~$390M) in Japan during peak lockdown, when:
>there were no other blockbusters>theaters were empty, so rewatching was easy>people were desperate for any content.>it had a movie-style narrative with a finality>the government gave stimulus checks>and it had unprecedented media blitz coverage, down to literal government shoutoutsSwordsmith Village (2023)
>made ~ยฅ3.8B (~$25M)>with IMAX rollouts, with a dubbed release, with premiere hype, with bonus chaptersAnd guess what? It flopped internationally, and underwhelmed at home.
Hashira Training Arc (2024)
>final gross in Japan: less than ยฅ5.5B (~$35M)Down again. This time got beaten in multiple foreign territories by MHA filler. That's right, Tanjiro got bodied by a dead franchise.
There's zero sign of this thing pulling anything north of ยฅ10B-15B unless:
>they start selling literal crack with each ticket>Jurassic World gets banned from screens>Japan enters a second pandemic and locks people in the theaterAnd even then, it's a stretch because:
>Infinity Castle has long runtime (2h35m)>less rewatch value>not accessible to casuals>marketing already showing fatigue (as per trailer views vs earlier hype)>pushed into September to dodge Hollywood competition and it's getting eaten alive by Jurassic World 20 days after Infinity Castle drops
>>280541544It will be funny to predict the sales of the new series
>>280531934Predictions from non-copium adults in the room? Realistic Japan total: ยฅ10B-ยฅ14B ($65Mโ$95M) If it overperforms massively? Maybe ยฅ15B-ยฅ18B tops. ยฅ20B+? That's dreamland. Not a โlowball,โ a hallucination from a child who doesn't know anything about the film industry. Even the Japanese on Yahoo Japan say this movie will most likely make ยฅ15B because the Demon Slayer boom from 2020 waned off not to mention Japan are suffering from an economic collapse right now as we speak.
And once again: $200M in Japan = ยฅ31B. Not happening. That's 75% of Mugen Train's total, with none of Mugen Train's once-in-a-lifetime conditions. Not even Jujutsu Kaisen 0 could sniff that. You're really out here thinking every new Demon Slayer release gets a Get Out of Market Forces Free Card.
You can ride high, though. The crash is gonna be delicious. Especially when Jurassic World drops.
>>280541654all below 10k except KDG who barely beats Astro
>>280541441Saito is trash
>>280532162Reality check: Demon Slayer wants to be in that league. It mimics blockbuster strategies. But it doesn't have:
>the market diversification>the long-term brand power>or the financial stabilityTo actually compete there. It's cosplaying global dominance, not living it. Marvel (even in its slump) does:
>$600M-$1B+ per movie regularly>with zero reliance on any one country>with built-in home media, toy, game, streaming profit chains>and nearly two decades of continuous cinematic IP generationDemon Slayer:
>is totally Japan-dependent (90% of Mugen Train's revenue came from Japan)>loses steam every year after Mugen Train>has no real global merch ecosystem (unless you count niche Aniplex webstores that sell out because of limited supply, not demand)>and will end after Sunrise Countdown, it's a time-limited IPThat's not Marvel tier, that's Fate/stay night with better animation and a stronger launch window. Also, LOL @ saying Demon Slayer is "in the same league as Anpanman." Possibly the biggest self-own imaginable.
Anpanman:
>has been running since 1988>dominates toddlers to grandparents>has over 30 movies released>generates billions in merch every year>is literally used by the Japanese government in social programsDemon Slayer:
>will be done in 2 more arcs>has maybe 3-4 movies total by the end>cannot sell outside Asia at volume>and collapsed internationally post-Mugen TrainThey're not even in the same solar system, let alone the same league.
Meanwhile, MHA:
>doesn't chase IMAX or red carpets or award-season cosplay (Aniplex tried to submit Mugen Train into the Oscars and were laughed out of the building)>quietly racks up $50M+ movie grosses for literal filler>got a Hollywood LA with Legendary Pictures (same as Godzilla, Dune, Detective Pikachu)>has a growing streaming and licensing footprint>has consistent momentum without needing event gimmicksIt's not trying to be Marvel. Itโs trying to be durable. And that's the key difference.
>>280533588>Kimetsu manga sales? Doesnt countYeah, because they don't anymore. DS's manga hasn't sold a single new volume in four years. Every boost was:
>during its peak boom (2019-2021)>from anime-triggered back catalog surges>and followed by massive drop-offs after the anime cooledCompare it to One Piece or JJK where volume-to-volume retention exists and DS's sales graph looks like a cliff dive after the anime finale.
>Kimetsu tv ratings? Doesnt countCool, Fuji TV aired a special rerun marathon and scored decent household ratings in a low-competition timeslot. And let's not act like Japan hasn't crowned Sazae-san king of TV for decades. Ratings in Japan are heavily tied to time slot and legacy trust, not necessarily cultural dominance.
Meanwhile, where's the international discussion about those reruns? Oh right, nowhere. Because they don't matter outside Japan, and even within Japan, re-airing old arcs doesn't scream "franchise growth."
>Kimetsu being recommended by several all star mangaka? Doesnt countYou mean the same all-star mangaka who recommend dozens of Jump series? You got:
>Togashi recommending TPN>Hori hyping World Trigger>Oda shouting out Mashle>Kishi praising KagurabachiThis is Jump marketing cycle 101, not a holy anointment. They promote everything with a pulse. DS's manga was underperforming for 3 years until Ufotable dragged it to relevance with sakuga sorcery.
>Kimetsu first movie selling well? Doesnt countIt *does* count -- as the peak of a bubble. Mugen Train was:
>released during Japan's post-Covid theater drought>the first major anime-only theatrical continuation>a perfect storm of timing, emotion, and no competitionAnd yet... every movie since then has performed worse. That's not "franchise strength." Thatโs a flash in the pan.
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>>280541588if the anime is good, kgb should be getting there
it's doing numbers similar to jjk or kny pre anime
I can't see other current series pulling off that tho
>>280541654They will all sell below 10k
>>280533361Itโs baseball. He can only come up to plate 3โ5 times a game if the opposing pitchers are decent enough, and can even be intentionally walked
>>280541769>Kimetsu re caps doing well? Doesnt countYou mean 'doing well' by getting beaten overseas by MHA filler? A recap film doing okay in Japan where literally any anime can pull decent numbers with IMAX trickery is not a flex. It's marketing inflation, not content success.
>Kimetsu in school text books? Doesnt countViolet Evergarden was also in Japanese school text books, as was Oreimo among other series. Demon Slayer is not unique in that aspect.
>Kimetsu recognized by JP's Prime Minister? Doesnt countPR stunt. Japan's new PM Ishiba Shigeru dressed up as Majin Buu for the opening ceremony of a figure museum once.
>Kimetsu boosting Japan's economy? Doesnt countJapan's economy has been so bad they counted capsule toy sales as GDP contributors. Demon Slayer boosting anything was just a symptom of a media-starved pandemic bubble. Same thing happened with:
>Yo-Kai Watch>Frozen>Evangelion 3.0None of them remained economic pillars after 3 years.
>Kimetsu being played at the Olympics? Doesnt countAt this point, you're listing state-mandated cultural moments, not global dominance. The Olympics shoutout came from Japan, for Japan, during its only relevant year, 2020. Meanwhile:
>One Piece was repped by Olympians internationally>JJK was shouted out in the Paris Olympics>Naruto cosplay made international TVDemon Slayer never got that love again. Even at peak, it wasn't organic. It was manufactured domestic hype.
>Kimetsu pre sale tickets selling out left and right? Doesnt countBecause you capped the number of tickets to boost artificial scarcity and anime fans pre-order like it's idol merch. Let's wait for those actual box office legs before screaming "record-breaking." This is the Swordsmith Village scam all over again: fake IMAX "event" rollout, big opening... then flatline internationally.
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>didn't bother replying
>just copypasted stuff
>>280533314is he trying to be the next oikawa
>>280534528>Or the fact you keep avoiding, it hasn't had a single movie since mugen train.Wrong. Swordsmith Village arc released as a theatrical event internationally and in Japan. Aniplex marketed it like a film:
>IMAX release? Check>Dolby rollout? Check>Global dub/sub premieres? Check>Press tour with cast? CheckYou can try calling it "TV episode compilation," but it was sold, distributed, and marketed like a movie. You can't sell someone a Big Mac and then scream "but that wasn't a meal!" when they complain it tasted like a stale reheat. Even Hashira Training got the same treatment. You think that shit was airing in IMAX for the vibes?
So don't play the "there hasnโt been a movie" card. Theyโve been testing waters for years, and nothing since Mugen Train has come close to recreating its box office magic. That's the point.
>Superman confirmed to have done worse than quantumania's opening weekend and will struggle to reach 500 million btwDo you even math, bro? Or just post with your feelings? Quantumania made $104M opening weekend in the US and fell off a cliff. Superman has already made $123M in the US by Day 2 and $96M+ internationally, which means it's already sitting around $219M+ global in two freaking days. That's already a better trajectory than:
>The Marvels>Quantumania>The Flash>Blue Beetle>Shazam 2Hell, it's outpacing Man of Steel which finished at $668M. Superman 2025 is clearly headed to $600M+, maybe even more depending on legs. That's a W no matter how you slice it. Also, Quantumania bombed because of:
>awful word of mouth>frontloaded core fanbase>and no overseas strengthSuperman is:
>getting positive buzz>pulling monster day-1s in UK/Mexico/Brazil/India>holding better domestically>and doesn't need China or Japan to carry it.This ain't Quantumania 2: Kryptonian Boogaloo.
>>280541828Some got deleted so heโs copy pasting them again
>>280534304Cool, people are preordering for Infinity Castle. You know what else sold out in seconds and then flopped internationally? Swordsmith Village. Preorders = hype, not box office reality.
>t-the seats are selling!!Congrats, it's the most hyped IP in Japan... in Japan, rofl. That's never been the debate. The issue is:
>it flops internationally>it can't hold screens past Week 2>it's releasing in September, the dump month, far from awards season or prime box office windowsAlso, a ton of these seat maps are for premiere day: anime fans are always frontloaded. What happens after the fans go? That's when legs matter. And legs = where Demon Slayer consistently fails since 2021.
>>280535063>i-it could unironically do better than Mugen Train!!It won't. It's:
>releasing in a crowded market>coming after audience fatigue>being slotted right before Jurassic World>carrying a 2h35m runtime (fewer screenings per day)>and it's a multi-part arc, not a single climax event like Mugen TrainYou'd need Jesus Christ animating on 1s to even touch Mugen Train's numbers, and even then, it's not happening overseas.
>>280533314man, save that kind of shit on volume extras
rip
>>280541779KnY sure but JJK?
>>280529146It's funny how she was better at holding her disguise than Juzo.
So her being age regressed is confirmed.
Now we need a confirmation she also was an assassin, but it seems self-explanatory now and I wonder if Oka being here we'll confirm my suspicion that she was JARDIN's spy at not umbrella.
BTW, the Black Clover cuck is NOT going to like this, lmao. It seems like my predictions are coming true after all (again).
>https://chomanga.org/archives/395818
For context:
This post revolves around the announcement of 5 million giveaway items for Infinity Castle, with the "break-even line" stated as 7 billion yen (~$45-50M). But here's the kicker:
>These handouts are NOT cheap to produce or distribute
>Studios and exhibitors only throw this much bonus merch early when they know they need to frontload hard
>They're not doing this because the movie is so popular it sells itself. They're doing this because it won't without help.
And here are some of the comments in the thread:
>"Feels like itโll need to hit 13 billion yen at least"
Translation: Even hardcore Japanese fans are setting bare-minimum bar expectations around 10-13B yen. That's less than half of Mugen Train.
>"70 billion yen = 5 million admissions"
Translation: They're literally tying ticket handouts to how much it needs to earn to save face.
>"This art stand? Mid."
Translation: Merch being mocked = low perceived value = less incentive for non-hardcore fans to show up.
>"Itโll need to sell out those 5M giveaways in 1-2 weeks"
Aka, this is heavily frontloaded. If it doesn't hit big out the gate, momentum's dead.
>"20-25 billion maybe... 15 is the lowest it should go"
Translation: 15-20 billion yen is where expectations are set, not predictions. These numbers come with pressure. Anything below 200 will be seen as a stumble, especially if Fanastic Four and Jurassic World steals legs.
>"Mugen Train's 40 billion was because of Covid conditions."
Self-awareness from Japanese fans unlike Westoid fans. They know that original boom was a freak phenomenon, not replicable.
>"Just a sheet of paper?"/"Spy x Family only got 4 million bonuses, lol"
Even Japanese otaku understand this is all part of the merch-push hamster wheel, not genuine demand.
Man oh man. This year keeps getting better and better. I was right about all of my box office predictions thus far, I was right about Trump winning and I'd be right too about Infinity Castle not even touching Mugen Train. My predictions landed HARDER than Tanjiro getting dropped into a real blockbuster market.
>"Demon Slayer can't replicate Mugen Train success."
CONFIRMED. Even its own fans admit that ยฅ40B is a dream. Most are now clinging to ยฅ15-20B as the "save face" range, which is half of what Mugen Train pulled during a pandemic boost. It's sliding from cultural juggernaut to just another seasonal anime event.
>"Franchise fatigue is setting in."
CONFIRMED. The giveaways are at MHA levels of desperation now, and the trailer views (lol @ 11M in 7 months vs Mugen's 40M) scream that mainstream casuals aren't showing up anymore. It's now just running on the fumes of hardcore local fans.
>"International appeal is evaporating."
CONFIRMED. Swordsmith Village flopped hard globally, and there's no strong evidence Infinity Castle will reverse that. Mugen Train was a one-time anomaly. Outside of Japan, Demon Slayer is no longer an event, it's content filler at best.
>"Hollywood IPs (Superman/Fantastic Four) would undercut its box office footprint."
CONFIRMED. Superman literally came in swinging, taking premium screens, dominating LATAM and Europe, and now heading toward a $600-750M run with no Japan reliance. Meanwhile, Demon Slayer is praying for $45M break-even with 5 million handouts.
>"Jurassic World will be the real threat in Japan."
Itโs not even out yet, and already people are discussing Demon Slayer's need to frontload and finish early. That means the box office legs won't last through Jurassic's rollout. I already predicted Demon Slayer would shift release dates or screen strategies to avoid competition and that's EXACTLY what Aniplex did.
>>280541779>it's doing numbers similar to jjk or kny pre animeMHA was doing better numbers (250-300k pre-anime) and it never became a million seller
I don't know why people think tracking the same pre-anime means it will get the same sized anime boost
>>280542026What about Black clover?
>>280542050What about it?
>>280533314yeah this is stuff for volume frontispieces
>>280533314If it's only him then it's fine I guess. I doubt his whole team would have crazy stats this early
>hima-ten introduces another girl
What is this shit?
>>280540463The horse girl franchise alone gave them billions in revenue
They have money to burn (especially with a greedier new director)
>>280540463they want the next kny / jjk anime
Remember, Jeremy, when you said it'd do like 120 million max in Japan and now you're already coping how 200 million is the minimum.
I remember.
There is an interesting implication. It's very possible that Ping Pong was supposed to start until the next batch because it seems that Chapter 2 was not prepared in advance. Just fuels the theory that Numa asked to axe him one round earlier.
>>280542026I unironically think that being too popular pre anime actually stunts the anime boost, since a good anime is actually a better gateway to a series than the actual manga.
>>280542521or he just isnt ready for weekly schedule
>>28054194215-20 billion would already make the movie top 10-20 movie in JP history
>>280543049I'm so glad this shit is dying
>>280543132FUCK YOU AND FUCK THE AXE!
'JUMP FESTA 2026' will be held on Dec 20-21, 2025!
What Announcements do you expect to see?
>>280543455should have kept him wearing the femboy battle gear
>summer hikaru visual are kino already
yep kagurabchichads won
>>280543547Kagurabachi
Nue
Akane
The three for sure, i still have doubt about Ruri, i hope it get an anime already but i feel like there is not enough chapters
>>280543547I expect everything WSJ related be be announced before Fes unless it's some remake/adaptation of already finished manga.
>>280543547Most of the series represented in this image aren't running anymore
>>280537866Nice cope. But the numbers don't lie (you do, though). Here''s the actual global opening for Superman in 2 DAYS:
>UK $9.8M>Mexico $8.8M>China $6.6M>Brazil $5.9M>Australia $5.3M>France $4.2M>Korea $4.2M>India $3.8M>Spain $2.9M>Japan $2.6MThatโs $54M from just 10 countries in 48 hours. Add in $123M from the U.S., and the total is already $177M in 2 days. That's a monster result, and without taking into account that now Superman made $96M outside of America in just 2 days. Meanwhile, Mugen Train in those same markets...
>Mugen Train made ~$49M total outside Japan. Over multiple months.>UK: $1.9M (over a month)>Mexico: $3.2M (over a month)>Brazil: ~$2M (over weeks)>France: ~$2.3M (over weeks)>India/Spain/UK/etc? Practically ghosted it.>>280537366>backtrackingNope. I never backtracked because I predicted Infinity Castle wouldn't come close to Mugen Train, and that 20 billion yen is the new cope ceiling. I was right. You're the one moving the goalposts from "Kimetsu is guaranteed 30-40 billion yen!!" to "even 15-20 billion yen is a win!!" which is, again, proving my point.
>>280536351That's the point. And yet they kept charging full theatrical prices for TV recap expecting Mugen Train-level money. That's a branding problem. If the franchise can't pull numbers without a pandemic, novelty, and massive Ufotable push, then it isn't "timeless." It's event-dependent. And guess what? Even now with new content, people are dragging the bonuses, mocking the art cards, and saying it needs multiple waves of giveaways just to sustain hype. That's called franchise fatigue.
>>280537293>A bigger flop than superman incoming.Cool. Even if it does, it still has no bearing on the Demon Slayer discussion. It was only ever used to prove the IMAX and premium slot competition, which it has already done because Toho sure as fuck aren't playing favorites with Demon Slayer.
>>280543547Will Jump festa be the Saito redemption?
curious to see what studio will nue get
>>280543566Top tank kinda look too femboy, his editor probably told him to don't use it in down the line. And to speak of editor, we STILL don't know who is editor for kawaguchi yet.
Ping Pong won this thread.
>>280541715>look at these gigantic franchises, they sell more than kimetsuno shit?
what people mock you for is that you have to go there to even find a victory over that series because it shits on anything else.
everything else is you saying kimetsu has no staying power, lo and behold, we're here 5 years later watching how its new movie is set to make a shit ton of money
i do not understand you and i mever will
>>280540322Will Akane ever get an anime? Rakugo is pretty niche.
>>280543913yjk he stayed too long with matsui
>>280528700 (OP)MHA is mogged by it's own spin off
>>280544329I saw in YouTube comments the other day of Dekufags defending Deku on allegations that spinoff protag is better by saying Deku is the number 4 hero or some shit after he got his suit (did Hori have to make another epilogue to soothe Dekufags? Christ)
Damn that manga sucks.
What!? Now a super popular idol has an interest in our housekeeping protag???? That's crazy. *insert Seinfeld uwhhaaaat*
I guarantee the next girl will be a foreign princess.
>>280544266kawaguchi and matsui are a little bit too much common with shotas....
>>280544131a power point adaptation maybe
>Otr begins with exposition about things said in the last chapter. Weird, but understandable.
>>280544329>>280544432Yes, Horikoshi wrote himself in a corner with Deku's powers.
>>280543867probably gonna be jc staff or silverlink
>>280544106Now you're just trying to rewrite the argument into "you're only right if you compare Demon Slayer to the biggest IPs in history." Yeah, no shit. That's the whole point. Demon Slayer put itself in that lane. You're just mad I'm judging it by the standard it chose to emulate.
>you have to compare it to Marvel and Anpanman to find a win!!Dude, you are the one who compared it to Marvel first. Demon Slayer fans claimed it was the next big global IP. They brag about:
>IMAX rollouts>red carpet premieres>global theatrical launches>Mugen Train being #1 worldwide in 2020>Oscars submission>Infinity Castle trailer doing "Hollywood numbers" You can't cosplay as Marvel-tier and then scream "stop comparing us to Marvel!!" when your numbers fall short. That's not logic, that's just fanboy whiplash.
>we're here 5 years later watching how its new movie is set to make a shit ton of moneyBro, a franchise still making money after 5 years doesn't automatically make it a dominant IP. It's peak anime short-burst behavior:
>huge boom>fast saturation>reliance on seasonal revivals>no real global shelf presenceThat's not Marvel. That's Tiger & Bunny with sakuga. If Infinity Castle does ยฅ200-250B, cool. It's still down 40%+ from Mugen Train, which had no competition, no streaming saturation, and pandemic scarcity on its side. That's not growth, that's controlled bleeding.
>i do not understand you and i mever willBecause you literally can't. Your entire argument is built on Demon Slayer exceptionalism, this idea that the rules don't apply, that success is infinite, and that every criticism is hate. Meanwhile I'm just holding up a mirror saying:
>"You want to play with the big dogs? Cool. But that means you get judged like them."You want Demon Slayer to get blockbuster status without accepting blockbuster scrutiny and that's not how this works. And that's why I'm winning.
Why is this guy seething so fucking much? who gives a shit how much money kimetsu makes?
>>280543867Ufotable would be unexpected and kino
>>280545305The problem is that money is not going to MHA
>>280545365Even if it went to mha he's getting nothing out of it. I don't understand the seething unless you're an active share holder
Was MHA really the last thing propping up WSJ? I donโt come to these threads often
In other word
Black clover lost
>>280545415Ping Pong Peril is the future of the magazine.
Iโm liking Otr and Kaedegami so far but theyโre both lacking in ways I hope their respective mangaka can improve on. Otr stumbled with that training arc, even if it was short it killed momentum but the past month has been mostly good chapters and the new castmates, Etupirko and Sindra, seem promising. Otr himself is kind of bland so he really needs good castmates to bounce against to bring out his good qualities and to keep audience attention for slow chapters. The mangaka is also working on improving the panel flow and clarity of his pages. I think itโs too early for Otr to win against the current big bad so I hope he wins by being a quick witted leader that marshals Sidra and Etupirko so itโs a three against one instead of Otr winning single handedly.
Kaedegami is very consistent in its quality. Every chapter has been good so the problem now is that it isnโt โgreatโ and itโs lacking any standout characteristic. The mangaka probably should bring back the fan service and needs to improve their fights. Next chapter seems like it will be a lore dump which should actually be good because so far the manga has been very straightforward and hasnโt presented any mysteries for the readers to mull over.
>>280545305This is what console wars do to a motherfucker.
Kaedegami? More like Kaxedegami.
>>280544432>by saying Deku is the number 4 hero or some shit after he got his suitSeriously? What good is a quirk then? Sounds like it is more about being a likable faggot on TikTok than doing hero work. Why not give a bunch of people these iron man suits?
>>280545474Its too late for Otr, Kaedegami is building up intrigue i think its too early for a lore dump, i think it will just explain monsters and send them to a fetch quest
>>280545605nue is 100 chapters in and they still didn't explain monsters or anything so who cares about lore in wsj
>>280545474>itโs lacking any standout characteristicI feel it too, which is why I think this new batch is kinda doomed to be on the 10k league at best which is bad in a way.
>>280545605Nobody give an about kAXEdegami expect those ching chong lovers.
>>280545707>ching chong loversso hoyofags?
thats a big demography
>>280545707actually we do care about it unlike nue, nuetard
I don't care about sales. I masturbate exclusively to bakudeku twink porn. In fact, I'm going to do it right now <3
Kaedegamiโs first chapter sold people on the ecchi stuff in a way but so far he kinda dropped it and now use the cute mascot things (itโs a shit idea))
>>280545729>>280545738oh I'm sure there is like 3 fans of it.
>>280545749The only reason Chad Clover doesn't sell as well as Gaylord Academia is because Tabata doesn't pander to homos like you
what were marshall king sales?
>>280545605>>280545668Itโs been consistent enough and enjoyable enough for me I would be content if it was a little episodic adventure series but I donโt know if that works for the magazine right now.
>>280545474I'll just say it cause niggas here are too illiterate, Kaedegami has no actual story.
>Next chapter seems like it will be a lore dump which should actually be good because so far the manga has been very straightforward and hasnโt presented any mysteries for the readers to mull over.Just look at this shit. "Oh it's going to have mystery soon" "Oh there's going to be lore" "Oh a real bad guy will show up soon"
This is not a story, it's a checklist of tropes and you have no real investment.
>>280545809I'm glad hori listened to the fujos. Togachako is fantastic
>>280545834no one actually cares about story in jump
Look at Ruri doing 100k with just a premise
>>280545755>False premiseM-MASAKA
LMAO. The mental gymnastics on display here could qualify for Olympic gold.
>>280545305>Why is this guy seething so fucking much? Who gives a shit how much money Kimetsu makes?You do, clown. Literally 80% of the Demon Slayer fanbaseโs personality since 2020 has been:
>"It outsold One Piece!">"It made more than Your Name!">"Itโs the highest-grossing anime film ever!">"It broke all TV rating records!">"Gurenge played at the Olympics!">"Look at the box office!"Now suddenly after multiple years of decline, recaps flopping overseas, and Superman nuking it in LATAM and Europe, you're too cool for revenue? Nah, that's not disinterest. That's retreat.
>>280545365Oh, so now you care about the money again, just in time to use it as a dig at MHA, lol. Pick a side. You just said, "who cares how much Kimetsu makes?" But now you're implying it's relevant again because MHA's not making it? That's like bragging about winning a race and then crying the finish line was in the wrong place.
Also, friendly reminder:
>MHA doesn't even try to compete with global box office dominance like Demon Slayer does>It doesn't spam theatrical releases or play the Oscar bait game like Demon Slayer didAnd it still gets Hollywood backing, a Legendary co-production, and consistently hits $40M+ per film with no IMAX boost, filler plots, and minimal marketing
Meanwhile Demon Slayer:
>Puts out full arcs, not recap filler anymore>Dumps $5M+ into marketing per launch>Sells giveaway merch at theaters>Builds up "event" hype months in advanceAnd still canโt repeat Mugen Train numbers. If MHA doesn't get the money, it's because it doesn't need it to stay afloat. Demon Slayer does.
When Demon Slayer was dominating, it was:
>"THE SALES PROVE ITโS THE GOAT!!"Now that it's fading under real competition, it's:
>โBro why you so obsessed with sales tho??โYeah. That's called copium and you're flailing harder with every post.
oh my god, there we go again.
>>280530152The art is ugly but the action is easy to follow. I prefer that over good art with incomprehensible composition.
Mindbroken by Kimetsu mogging Flopademia
I know post count doesn't actually mean anything but that Kiyoshi chapter was so gay the thread died in record time. Not to mention the laser beam [GREEK GOD] spam.
> "Yabba dabba damnโฆ she's getting Plus Ultra'd again."
Through the paper-thin walls of his dorm room, he hears Uraraka moaning โBakugooooooo!!โ for the fourth night in a row.
He sniffles.
He smiles.
โThatโs fine. As long as sheโs happyโฆ thatโs what a hero wants.โ
He opens his journal. Page 347: โNew note: Bakugoโs thrust velocity seems to increase under emotional stress. Must analyze.โ
He flips to the next page and draws another All Might face.
โThatโs the spirit, young Midoriya,โ he whispers to himself, pretending All Might is proud of him.
RAOH
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Post MHA influencing any other manga
>>280531276It's basically Murakami but actually occasionally funny with the lolsorandumb
>>280546201Zipman
Red Hood
Otr
oh wait...
>>280546175Reminder that deBITCH is someone's hero
He really thinks he's arguing with one person.
>>280545999I understand shitposting once or twice, but seething for over a week about how much money an anime for kids makes all day long seems excessive for me, don't you think?
>>280546425>a weekIts been 7 years with him
>>280546425Normally I would agree with you but this is also the WSJ thread and if there was ever a place to sperg about sales and popularity, itโs here.
>>280546425He's been perpetually mad about his own spinoff for more than half a decade
>>280543867We wonโt know until fiesta 2026 or earlier in 2026. Kill blue is getting announced first.
>>280546610This one baffles me the most. Its a MHA property but he wants it to fail?
>>280546610>>280546805he doesn't want it to surpass mha I guess, it's as if boruto surpassed naruto, a naruto fan would be pissed off
>>280546874It's more about "how DARE you say you like this premise better"
What a chill thread this was
>>280545570See tailman, people are asking this for a long while
>>280545999>>"It outsold One Piece!"This was entirely on Jump editorial and OPfags
>>280546425Vigilantes MC destroyed Deku's themes.
So.....basically Tafuku won?