Anything made before the 2000s

>>280536497 (OP)
Name?

2004 is retro now.

Man Kei and Yuri look off

>>280537315
That ova has the best designs.

Fantasy Dirty Pair. Check it out

>>280536497 (OP)

What happened to the one from yesterday?

>>280537542
It's superhero Dirty Pair for me.

>>280537237
2005 too
20 years is the cutoff period

>>280539879
OP says before 2000

Allegiance or death
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSRuR6BgRnE

>>280536826
Punky Funky Baby... erm... Seriously, is it a prequel for Dirty Pair?!

>watching this is portuguese cause that's the only version available online, not counting the JP raw

oh well if anything, the voiceover is nostalgic

>>280536497 (OP)

>>280537237
The term retro doesn't refer to any time frame.
>imitative of a style, fashion, or design from the recent past.
OP and 4chan as a whole use it incorrectly, anyway OP also said anything before 2000.

Anyway Shonan Bakusouzoku is really good and the most recent episode I watched had a cute American girl speak Engrish for a lot of the episode. 9/10.

>>280542494
Golden Boy?
You're Under Arrest?

>>280537237
>Rozen Maiden is considered to be retro now
feels weird desū

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY7QR46JuVU

lucky star is nearly 20 years old, azudaui came out in '02, are they retro?

>>280537237
This is the exact kind of retardation that killed /vr/

>>280548237
>>280548711
Tamaki best character

>the thread that exposed /a/

>>280550216
It was me who did it

>>280536826
Punky Funky Baby.

>>280541246
> is it a prequel for Dirty Pair?!
Nope, they are completely unrelated.

>>280551184

>>280538135
Hag

https://youtube.com/watch?v=c5XjjmGlzu8

>>280552154
That was a great special

>>280552330

Yea, ima rewatch it since i found one that wasnt from a 40 year old tape.

The ending felt rushed, but over all Saint Tail was a fun show.

>>280553510
It looks kino, didn't the team from sailor moon make it?

I recently finished Anne of Green Gables. It was absolute kino. Also Anne is gorgeous after the timeskip.

>nostalgic
>over something you have never seen or even heard about, made 30 years before you were even planned (if you were at all)

>>280553978
I honestly have no idea. I was too busy looking at her uncovered shoulders and pits.

>>280554048
I finished that whole series a few years ago, it was amazing. I only watched the first episode the new anime, pretty mid I'm comparison.

>>280554059
That's natural. Nostalgia is passed down.
Sorry if you got the 'tism.

>>280536497 (OP)
You all niggas are 40yo, lol

>>280554196
>Nostalgia is passed down
wrong, zoomie

You ARE watching Marco Polo no Bouken right?

>>280554108
It's not fair to compare both shows considering the 79 version was directed by one of the best anime directors ever and modern directors are just employees

>>280554263
Try working on your imagination a little, it might help you.
You can start by dropping words like zoomie.

>>280554350
it's awesome

>>280536497 (OP)
>nostalgic and retro anime

Well how would you define that? I was born in 2007, so if we're talking anime from before I was born, I guess pic related for me; it was one of the first anime I had exposure to; I remember my older brother and sister talking about it when I was a kid. I still haven't watched it, looks mid af, but I typically don't like old ass series made before I was born. What, do you like watching black and white movies? Yeah that's what I thought boomer.

But if we're talking about my personal favorite series from when I was a kid, it'd have to be SnK. My older brother introduced it to me when I was in elementary school and it was my favorite series for a while. For the millennioids out there, SnK was our dragon ball. I remember watching clips on YouTube during lunch with my friends, man those were the days lol.

>>280537657

I miss Tenchi and wish Kajishima got more budget to make what he wants.

>>280554106
>he couldn't tell they both had the same art styles and choreography

>>280554582
>Well how would you define that?
>Anything made before the 2000s

>>280555589
Cute

>>280554106
Praying in an anime?

I love Maruko

>>280554048
Great show
>>280553510
>>280554106
This looks beautiful

>>280558802
fucking A

Looks like wap is doing a stream on friday

>Only major adaptations of Go Nagai were of his action series
>his comedies only got a handful of OVAs

It's not fair.

U-Jin suffered from this too (I guess he got Sakura Diaries but that had an utter piece of shit MC). They just kinda hated non-action seinen back then.

>>280537432
>When you first discover a series through an OVA which had absolutely peak designs and find all the other forms of the series just weren't as good

>>280536497 (OP)
That looks like something straight out of Cream Lemon or the expanded series

>>280560362
More like Lolita Anime. Cream Lemon had more class.

>>280560259
To be fair this goes both ways for KOR if you could the original 1985 OVA

>>280537315
>>280537432
I want a nice cosy semi-lewd Dirty Pair thread in /m/ away from /a/'s dogshittery.

>>280562064
Make one then?

>>280560362
>make a light, mostly yuri, hentai series
>realise one of your stories is really good
>decide to make it a normal OVA instead

Gotta love Project A-ko. Wonder what a Pop Chaser TV series would've been like, although I guess half the humour from that relied on the sex/

>>280537237
>>280539879
>>280541964
Simple. Retro is cel-animation. Hand painted backgrounds, characters painted on cels. Modern is animation made with digital tools, drawing tablet

>>280563401
Last cel-painted episode of Pokemon was aired in 2002. So after that I would say it is modern

>>280562064
so make some IRL froends are stop talking to us cunts on 4chan, faggot

>>280558579
Relatively common both in shoujo and WMT style shows because of all the historical western settings and in action shows because of the "looks cool and exotic" tradition led by westaboos like Nagai.

>>280560166
Surprisingly obscure picks

>>280537315
ro-ro-ro-roshian roulette!

>>280554222
46 actually

If you're into short-term horror, Gakkou no Yuurei and its sequel are finally fully subbed.

>>280563401
There are a handful of 90s anime that uses digital animation.

>>280569745
thats why 1998-2002 is in the gray zone of nostalgia

>>280564871
silence esl

>>280537542
I have. Wish it was longer.

>>280569745
It was even a bragging point at points. Ah, it was a different time.

>>280574609
It was evidently part of a novel series but I haven't found much information on that. There was a video game though. It looks pretty basic.

What about manga from before 2000?

>>280574860
I'll allow it

>>280561360
season 2?

>>280567380
This was hardly ever subbed

>>280560166
I wish that site was more popular, because the guy running it does a real nice job. But with a niche subject matter like that I guess I can't expect too much.

>>280575755
That's always the catch. you either live well in obscurity or you get famous and suck.

>>280575755
What is the name of the site?

>>280575839
Wap-chan
The only imageboard focused around retro anime as far as I'm aware

>>280565132
Christianity in Japan is seen as Taboo

If there's one thing I really dislike about modern internet is the general recency bias it seems ti have. I don't expect old stuff to have the same volume of discussion as new things do especially in terms of hype and speculation but it feels like too many things are forgotten as soon as they're over. You rarely see the same kind of sustainability. There's no real focus on creative personal fan sites and shrines and web rings like that. It's only reddit and wikis and whatever feeds the hype train.

>>280576172
People still run independent fan sites (largely on platforms like neocities and nekoweb), they just don't get a lot of traffic.
Also a lot of shows discussed here are genuinely unpopular, not because they're bad or anything it's just that they're niche. For a lot of people discussion on twitter and discord is enough to get by.

>>280576465
>it's just that they're niche
Well I feel like that's more to my point. Where else should the niche come up if not the enthusiasts site. I feel like that idea has really changed meaning too.

>>280576172
I feel a little insulated from this because I hang out with a bunch of fujos who are still talking about YYH and the like (older fujos in my experience have been excellent anime conversation partners). I haven't seen a bona fide series/character "shrine" in a very long time, but there are more modern webrings for general weeaboo interests.

>>280542494
I.. Imagine

I don't have any screencaps but I watched Riding Bean last night and it was great.

>>280576059
I'm sure it was at some point, and breaking taboos by making his major heroes christians was probably part of the fun for people like Nagai, but the extent to which WMT and shoujo portrayed religion leads me to think "taboo" was a bit of an exaggeration by the 70s. Stuff like Flanders no Inu goes beyond "documentary freedom" as religion becomes part of the core narrative and themes. The ending is pretty legendary for that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxsXErQsf8I
I can give you that Takahata scrubbed religion out of Heidi though. It was probably for the best too.

>>280577059
While almost certainly not intentional, I tend to view WMT's heavy religious themes to be satire.
>Surely God made me a slave and killed 20 other children for a reason
>Surely God sank our ship and only left 5 people alive for a reason.
>Surely God gave my mother cancer and made my father lose all his money for a reason
>Surely God caused and earthquake and killed both my parents and half the people in my village for a reason

>>280560259
But the writing was shit.

>>280577059
>I'm sure it was at some point,
Mostly between the years 1600 and the late 1800s. It was a whole thing. In the modern days it's less Taboo and more uncommon. Almost like if you met someone who told you they were Mormon. Though before the era of Isolationism some warlords very much loved the Christian's guns

>>280577381
I could see the staff sometimes having a laugh behind the scenes. In fact, in the case of Flanders I just remembered the Calpis producer involved in it was apparently christian (土倉冨士雄 on wikipedia). But yeah WMT could be pretty hardcore and the studio seemed to embrace that as part of their identity, beyond that producer.

>>280578619
Haha. Makes sense.

>>280577574
I for one am not going into OVAs expecting brilliant writing.

hair

why doesn't anime look like this anymore?

>>280581103
few reasons. Chiefly though because they forgot how important hair is

>>280576059
Within the past eighty years, four prime ministers have been openly Christian. That doesn't sound very "taboo" to me.

>>280580202
hhoott

Started Video Senshi Laserion, a mecha about MC's video game robot being transported into real life to be used to fight in a war against a rebellion by moon colonists of the people of the Earth Federation. Clear inspirations from other shows, like Gundam, but it's pretty self aware in that there are nods and meta jokes towards tropes and references. They also do lean into the concept of it being a robot from a video game, as the robot can teleport and materialize itself and weapons out of what seems to be computer data, which is presented with those cool 80s laser grids like in Tron. Laserion (the robot) seems to take design inspiration from the Transformers series, having blocky limbs, and is unique in that other mecha in the show are more reminiscent of Zeta Gundam's mobile suits, having curvier features accented with pointy parts like wings or shoulder pads. It's pretty good so far.

>>280583122

Looks intetesting, might give it a watch sometime.

Just so we are clear:

Retro: Ink, paint, cels, film cameras.
Nostalgic: Early CG with little 3D.
Modern: Updated CG with a lot of 3D.

>>280583491
>Just so we are clear:

As said in the OP
>Anything made before the 2000s
This isn't complicated

>>280583852
Nice art

>>280567380
Too long for a simple story
Aunque la verdad estuvo de puto madre el doblaje
https://youtu.be/jtZgNWmlJXI?si=zm3JkKAu0ZEf4BmW

>>280581103
It's a genrational thing

>>280585135
*generation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxliJlqdvZQ

I remember those comfy Eko Eko Azarak threads back in November.

>>280577059
Do you remember what episode this is or do they pray often? I'm interested in watching this now.

>>280586008
Let me put it this way, if I tell you the episode it's going to be a massive spoiler for the franchise

>>280586741
I'll just watch it from the beginning then, thanks.

>>280575945
It's pretty dead there

>>280582196
Serena looks upset

>>280536497 (OP)
Suzuka´s underwear in 1970s Doraemon

Spoon obasan/Mrs. Pepper pot

There are way to many series I like that are in dire need of a BD release

>>280587610
Big ears

>>280588794
all the better to hear you with

>>280588814
All the more to be filled with wax

>>280537315
Dirty Pair was for 80s otaku what K-on was for 00s otaku

>>280542494
women don't take their shirts off like that. they cross their arms to grab the hem from the front and then pull it up over their heads.

>>280558579
there was a cultural fad for Christianity in Japan in the 80s and 90s.

>>280560166
>fire tripper
proto-Inuyasha, except Koga wins

>>280576172
because the internet has made it trivially easy to create and spread new content, so before anything can develop cultural momentum it gets replaced by thirty other things. 30+ years ago you really only had TV and movies which were constantly being reran for years on end.
in the case of the western anime fandom specifically, there were only a tiny fraction of series that were ever released officially so the reference pool was much smaller.
If you lived in America and wanted to watch anime in say 1993, you had like a half dozen OVAs and maybe three TV series you could watch without having to learn Japanese physically go to Japan to buy the tapes (and TV anime mostly didn't get home releases back then so even then your only choice was bootleg recordings or OVAs).

>>280583491
wonder what they used to make that reflection. zooming in it looks like a strip of tinfoil or something that reflected the camera flash

>>280585744
she's like 30 meters tall

>>280589717
Spooky

>>280590828

>>280590952
hot dang!

>>280583852
These threads have come to this, eh?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yPczVFMEfd4&pp=0gcJCc0JAYcqIYzv
>>280583491

1991 soul

>>280558684

>>280593037
Anime name?

>>280581103
Its cell vs digital

>>280585575
Honestly this would be best depiction of elves in anime if they didnt push for the interacial so hard

>>280593069
Wanpaku Omukashi Kumu Kumu

>>280593144
Thx

>>280592921
>>280593075
Even digital nowadays don't look as good as back in the late 90s.

>>280590242
God, I miss practical effects in anime.

>>280577381
It's like that in real life too, though.

>>280593124
This would be the best depiction of elves in anime if they pushed for interracial harder.

>>280594377
my man

>>280593144
cute
https://files.catbox.moe/5j1pj1.png

>>280594544
Probably one of the first fanarts of that characters in existence.

>>280594377

>>280594544
Nice drawing

>>280589717
Name?

>>280598621
Galaxy Express 999

Advice 90s blu-rays of OVAs and movies.
My top:
Bean Bandit
Armitage III
Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-Ohki 1, 2
Bubblgum Crisis

>>280590828
the perspective is a little strange in that shot but she looks normal when the other people are in frame

>>280587414
She looks upset almost every day at some point, sometimes multiple times

>>280598682
I remember watching this show thx

>>280599691
well anybody is gonna look normal next to a bunch of goat head carrying freaks

>>280599769
What a baby

and I need therapy now

>>280601558
RIP Mutsumi Inomata
one of the greats

>>280601819

>>280601246

>>280548237
>>280548711
What did she mean by this?

>>280575557
It exists because of MaruChanSubs but all his stuff gets taken down a lot. He's having to reupload his Maruko Chan stuff first.
The only Azuki episode that's still up is the first 1. He used to have a lot on his YouTube channel but YouTube scrubbed nearly everything off it. https://youtu.be/P_Ckr_CAGsU

>>280602442
I like maruko chan

>>280603224
Same. Sucks she can't get a good English dub.

>>280603518
I agree

>>280603224
Maruko is cute.

>>280605264
They would not do that today.

>>280560229

I wouldve liked an Omorai ova even if everybody else hates it.

>>280592681

Does the bluray have the original audio, cause i cant stand that new audio redo at all.

One of my all time favorites. Such a cute movie.

>>280607297
You are correct.

>>280608109
that reminds of popolocrois

>>280608788
>that reminds of popolocrois
Yeah it really does have that feel to it. Love me some Popolocrois.

>Still no BD release

No kinnikuman?

>>280602238
reika was the best character

>>280605264
original Maruko was way lewder

>>280552108
How?

>>280608788
>>280609132
>Popolocrois mention
Eyyyy... Sex with Jilva

Bump

>>280610578
>Sex with Jilva
Incredibly based.

>>280551264
I miss the chibi art of that era. They still retained the body curves, just compressed height.

>>280611337
Lex Luthor?

>>280609132
Looks like a Peanuts x Popolocrois

>>280554059
younger zoomers and older gen alpha have 2000s nostalgia even though a lot of them weren't even born in that decade, that's why shit like frutiger aero is popular as an aesthetic. my gf was born in 2006 and she's obsessed with 2000s shit like lucky star and azumanga daioh

>>280607297
Studios just need to have balls https://youtu.be/OcaiPRRNZOo

>>280611412
That's only because modern times have no real artistic direction or sense of belonging, so they move onto past shit and try to bring it into modern times with a faux sense of nostalgia.

>>280611381
Yes, penis x balls

favorite lesser known OVA?

>>280611412
Reminds me of how john k reminisce the 1940s animation despite being born in the 50s.

>>280612208
I already posted it earlier

>>280612208
This
>>280537657
Its just 2 ep but worth the watch especially the part where you can see their barely covered asses as they fly

>>280612208
Utsunomiko

>>280560259

DP had like a few good episodes in the OG

>>280602442
Were the deleted videos archived anywhere?

>>280587494
>Suzuka

>>280614282
>all that chiba usa hentai when I was a teen

Man people were horny af back then

>>280587110
I mean what did you realistically expect from a modern niche imageboard that doesn't just pander to the lowest common denominator? I'd rather have a slow board that's good than a fast one that's shit.

>>280612229
To be fair they showed looney tunes on at least one of the big TV networks for four decades straight, so multiple generators of people grew up watching these cartoons that were made 40-60 years before they were even born.
https://youtu.be/aFTTB6gOAJA
https://youtu.be/WowalkW6lKg

>>280614672
This is something I sort of take a big issue with. Roughly till just after my generation or so it wouldn't really be weird for kids in the 80s and 90s to be VERY familiar with stuff from our parents generation. And I don't just mean cartoons like Loony Toons or Scooby Doo but a lot of shows. Either through Nick at a night and the like we were all very familiar with The Munsters, Gilligan and Barbra Eden's midriff. Even the show of our generation made pretty overt references to older shows, for example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmIaL2BK1Zk

To be honest I feel like it's weird now that kids really don't seem to get anything that's even just a few years old. I really wonder what changed things. I suppose when media is based on streaming and online distribution audiences are only watching what's trending specifically rather than just catching whatever is on but I can't help but think it can't be that simple.

>>280614952
Corps want to sell newest thing

>>280615030
That's always been the case. Problem is now THE NEWEST thing comes out faster than anyone can actually enjoy it.

Go to space. There's heavy metal.

>unc

>>280614301
Hot

>>280614672
Looney Tunes isn't anime

>>280537237
>Those weird sci fi shows with god awful early CG used for everything that wasn't the characters
They made the lazy modern CG look like the work of Pixar.
Also Divergence Eve was great, shame about the second season being a mess.

>>280616320

https://youtube.com/watch?v=c4BWyb14SOs

>>280618628
Absurd claim
Source?

>>280614298
>back then
Chibiusa is a natural born slut
She makes Chloe + Ilya + Miyu combined look like prudes
The thirstiest loli known to man

>>280616320
that is the most Star Wars-era album cover ever

>>280563401
>Hand painted backgrounds
A lot of high-profile modern production still use backgrounds hand painted on wooden, physical media: they're just scanned to be then used in digital compositing

>>280554362
Takahata's autism almost killed a man during Anne's production
>During production Yoshifumi Kondô contracted a severe lung infection but kept working under Takahata's strict timelines and almost died; producer Junzô Nakajima begged for him to get medical help, but his presence was deemed necessary for the show to keep its quality

>>280619778
>oh noez I've got a mild cough I'm gonna die
why are Japs like this?

>>280619906
Yoshifumi Kondô suffered from lung problems throughout his whole life. In 1985 he resigned from Telecom Animation because his pneumonia got too severe.

>>280619906
Bacterial pneumonia is no joke. It's what killed Jim Henson.

>>280598621
Miru

>>280611316
Mink!

>>280536497 (OP)
retro threads are the only ones I feel at home now

>>280554582
>SnK was our dragon ball
Not to shit on other people's nostalgia (never watched SnK), but Dragon Ball was a fucking religion over here.
We skipped classes to watch the morning DB time-slot even though we knew the episode was going to be repeated on the after school time-slot.

Our school's copy center/photocopy lady was forbidden by the school's director of copying any Dragon Ball pictures, because everyone was collecting them on albums (probably from the few folk that had internet and downloaded them), and were making it impossible for teachers to copy actual school documents.

Also, not sure if you're trolling, but so that you get a bit of glimpse of time perception for when you get older. To me, it feels like SnK is still one of the newer anime, that was popular last week, or last month.

>>280616320
I remember the guy who hosted Anime82 had a whole Odin fan site. I watched it years ago, but barely remember it.

>>280613647
No, he's very niche and has to reupload everything, it's a slow process because he has to get through all his Maruko Chan subs first.
>>280614282
Probably won't be the last time that happens to her.

>>280602238
>Not posting the full version
Pathetic

>>280554582
>2007
You have to be over 18 to post he-

Currently watching GTO.
Why did I think this was going to be an action anime?

>>280536497 (OP)
Any other fans of City Hunter here? Absolutely love the series. Gotta go marathon the movies and specials someday.

>>280554582
>Harui today is twice as old than how old Cowboy Bebop was when Harui aired

>>280622387
You should read the manga once you are done, if you haven't already

>>280554582
>What, do you like watching black and white movies? >Yeah that's what I thought boomer.
Fuck you
SnK is what you deserve

>>280622516
Maybe after I'm finished reading Gunsmith Cats.

>>280560259
Madoka best girl of the 80's

>>280554582
>talking shit about Marx Bros.

>>280620800
the only 21st century series that came close to the level of culture penetration that DBZ did is maybe Naruto. MHA and AOT and Bleach were big but they always fizzled out pretty much immediately whenever they weren't currently airing. meanwhile literally everyone born post-1993 watched Naruto.

>>280622424
I remember this airing in Locomotion, but I never got around to see it.

>>280623247
Everyone I hung out with at the time watched Naruto, but no one I continued to hang out with finished it.
Food for thought.

>>280623718
No wonder.
I watched Naruto since it first started airing. It was one of my favorite shows ever. "Better than Dragon Ball!" we used to say. But the story and fillers got so bad in Shippuuden that I just couldn't keep watching it.
Everyone I knew that was watching it also stopped.

>>280623718
nobody finished anything else I listed either. Bleach is probably the most egregious of it, the popularity for that one died pretty much instantly after the gang saved Rukia from execution even though that's only like a quarter of the way through the series. at least Naruto's popularity lasted well into Shippuden.

>>280554582
>What, do you like watching black and white movies?

Yes.

>>280622387
I hated GTO. Too many japanese pervert jokes that were weird and unfunny. Dropped at episode 1

>>280622989
They are cool

Tenchi Universe was pretty good

>>280623875
I too remembered enjoying the manga when i was a teen. Now that remember it, its just full of gross shit (cum shit piss) jokes that it really icks me out

These films should get HD scans
wtf is Toei doing?

>>280625973
the damn thing aired every Saturday around 5am in my country
One Piece aired even earlier iirc

>>280627050
They're too busy doing popularity polls on which tokusatsu show they should do blu-rays of.

>>280627050
>Toei quality BD releases
Oh, my, I'm already excited
I'm at the edge of my seat
What kind of wonderful treatment will Toei give these almost half a century old movies?
Surely it'll be great

>>280627918
Anno must be proud. He claims Japan should feel more proud of tokusatsu than anime

>>280627918
>>280628082
Fucking hell

>>280621757
How did they get away with this?

>>280628346
Anno would want them to stop being faggots and just release the shows without all this nonsense. Probably.

>>280619906

https://youtu.be/qb-PqxPuqpc?si=mHZn8TSn6t_GdoOn

>>280627050

Swan lake doesnt have hd scan? Im sure ive seen screenshots of it that were very clear before.

>>280626624
Cute

>>280629442
Actually, seems you're right and they made a scan for their Toei Channel but I don't see any rip
https://www.toeich.jp/program/1TT000003686/202508

There recently has been a subgroup that has been subbing the Haikara-san 1978 version and releasing batch release with the most recent being 15-28 meaning all that's left is 29-42

>>280618350
I like Silent Mobius. I feel like it fell off the face of the planet though. Can't even find manga scans online.

>>280614952
There are still plenty of zoomers who watch the old big things though. The big 3, fmab, etc. Even the older stuff like dragon ball or yyh.

I think part of it is the shift in style as well. Cel anime look pretty but because it's so much harder to do, you get a lot of still frames and janky or non-existent choreography. It doesn't appeal to the zoomer mind. Yes I'm sure there's a lot of nice movement being shown in this thread but most of that comes from OVA's, not TV series. And that format is practically dead now because of streaming.

>>280622387
Because it's the sequel to a delinquent manga

1990s anime isn't retro. I can't be that old.

>>280632485
>90s Senran Kagura

>>280622516
>>280622556
Just don't read paradise lost

>>280623247
>but they always fizzled out pretty much immediately whenever they weren't currently airing
That's just not true. All three of those are huge and very mainstream in their own way, even if not Naruto level.

>>280632550
>you get a lot of still frames and janky or non-existent choreography. It doesn't appeal to the zoomer mind
It's the complete opposite, "modern sakuga" has zero choreography and an overaboundance of flashy special effects with no idea on how to make appealing direction... also, for some reason, they last forever
Take a look at a random scene from a low profile TV series
>https://www.sakugabooru.com/data/4187fba5ec2eca4a8e4f474b52da5d87.mp4

>>280614952
>>280632550
The turn of the century and big switch to digital that goes full force right when the 2000s start kind of changes things. Those old cartoons could still be passed off as looking sort of contemporary because of the way things were made in those few decades and even though a 60s or 70s cartoon might look old if you were watching them in the 90s, they really start to look old old as the 2000s and beyond happen (old doesn't mean bad btw).
Also it seems like the money all started going to CG animation at roughly the same time period and all those big budget CG movies are even more different looking. Like you could take 1970 to 1995 and then 1995 to 2005 and you can see much bigger changes in that 10 year window than you could in the 25 year window

The cel anime was the early 2000s is pretty neat. Cool that sparse amounts were still being made while it was being phased out

>>280537237
The op specified a year which is pre-2000

>>280633051
>you could take 1970 to 1995 and then 1995 to 2005 and you can see much bigger changes in that 10 year window than you could in the 25 year window
This is a gross exaggeration
1972 to 1995 is Mazinger Z to Evangelion, 1995 to 2005 is EVA to Eureka Seven, to only use mecha (there was no mecha on TV in 1970 sorry)

I've been watching L-Gaim and these end card/previews are way funnier than they should be.

>>280617167

>>280633369
Bye Bye Chizuru

>>280592681

https://o.uguu.se/MVsFWKmK.mp4

>>280536497 (OP)

>>280631242
What is the name of the sub group?

>>280581046
yuri > kei

>>280633326
Sorry for not specifying but I meant that with western animation like Disney movies, the handdrawn stuff from that 25 years window looks more similar than the mid-late 90s period where there was still handdrawn stuff but then the new wave Pixar/disney etc CG animation started being released side by side with the traditional stuff and things changed pretty rapidly in that 10 year window

>>280633178
it only got phased out cause of the fiat federal reserve money system. it's just too expensive to do casually.

>>280633178
*from the early 2000s

>>280634103
I cannot at all blame animators for wanting to experiment with the new tech. Initial D first season was really cool

>>280634270
initial D and mech makes sense to use the new tech, but everything else suffers.

>>280634061
>I meant that with western animation like Disney movies
Oh yeah in that case you're correct

>>280633261
Hunter x Hunter 1999 started releasing in Q4 of 1999 but most episodes came out in 2000 and the later cel OVA wasn't until 2002. Can I post screenshots/webms of the entire show here or am I limited to the 10 or so episodes that actually released in '99? Pic rel is from December 1999 I believe

>>280633507
>>280633051

>>280634349
No need to be autistic
I doubt anyone here would object posting Inuyasha, that started in October 2000 and kept going untill 2004, even just because the first 100 episodes are the last big TV anime production on cells

>>280632878
My favorite part is how the action is all in frame. A lot of the time it feels like the way action used to be directed wasn't so far removed from live action stuff. Even when there's beams and energy and stuff there was a decent sense of framing and staging.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwQOn7er0-Q

>>280634505

>>280634438
boku tachi waaaaaaaa

i would love to see
- Bemubemu Hunter Kotengu Tenmaru
- Gaki Deka
- Pink Lady Monogatari: Eikou no Tenshi-tachi
but i cant find them anywhere. If someone knows some whereabouts them, i would apriciate to know. Otherwise those stay as lost media/partially lost ....

thanks

>>280634465
>the action is all in frame
>the way action used to be directed wasn't so far removed from live action stuff
Because back in the day animators who wanted to draw action scenes grew up with an healthy dose of batshit insane kung-fu flicks that taught them how to make the most complex choreography fit behind the camera in a single uninterrupted shot
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOnbbAJhua8&ab_channel=eugi71

>>280622424
a este tio mas lo llamo coke :v

>>280634790
It's really just a matter of proper film making. I wonder how many modern directors even know how to decently storyboard. Also A lot of the more famous directors got their careers started doing bitch work.

>>280635393
>how many modern directors even know how to decently storyboard
Nah, there are contemporary (that got their start after 2000) directors with masterful eye for composition and are in the same ballpark with the master of old.
Naoko Yamada, Kenji Nakamura or Kiyotaka Oshiyama are all great.

>>280635712
Post a good scene from these directors.

>>280635712
See that post above? That's why you never spoonfeed retards. They want you to do their homework and will complain that your answers aren't good enough.

>>280635967
Shit meta post

>>280636009
If you want sincere replies, start replying sincerely.

>>280636120
What part wasn't sincere? Insecure retard

>>280636154
The "old good new bad" part. Enjoy your misery.

>>280636230
This >>280635905 was my first post in the chain
I'll enjoy the works I like just fine thank you.

>>280633955
I miss moomins

>>280632742
they built up a dedicated fanbase but they didn't become longstanding cultural phenomenons.

>>280633326
I'd split anime up into pre-OVA/bubble era (<1984), OVA/bubble era (1984-1996), transition era (1997-2004), and modern era (2005+)

>>280634103
fiat currency has been the norm since 1972. You're suggesting that's the sole culprit of something that happened in 1999, nearly 30 years later.

>>280639101
yes. Reminder, Japan is the biggest bond holder of the US. This was post WW2 and it was not a coincidence. However, because of the surge of money this caused due to again the fiat money system, the japanese sold their soul to the new american empire created post WW2. There's more details than this the situation created ruined Japan forever.

>>280639221
why did 80s anime blow 60s anime out of the water, then.

>>280639324
Because at the time, the anime and manga industry was not bought out by printed money yet. Then the suits rolled in and took out all the soul. Thats why you had many people being worked to death quite literally cause they were being taken advantage of. The new styles are meant to cut costs not to invoke soul. As is the inevitable end of fiat systems.

>>280554582
>>280620800
>>280623247
On cultural phenomenon works (and I am speaking strictly on Americans), people tend to forget that Dragon Ball had a similar way of 'fizzling out', like how Naruto and Bleach did towards the end, or indeed like how Attack on Titan did.
Like, a lot of interest had waned and moved on to other works when Dragon Ball GT started airing- and yes, that is part of Dragon Ball as America knows it. Dragon Ball was not a manga over there- it wasn't even "Dragon Ball", it was "Dragon Ball Z".

The only big anime that sustained interest for the entirety of their runs on a popular scale would be shorter ones. Longest you got is Fullmetal Alchemist 2003 (stole quite a bit of DB's thunder).

>>280639477
>Longest you got is Fullmetal Alchemist 2003
FMA was a meme.

>>280639582
Yeah and it was the biggest fucking deal at the time outside of Dragon Ball (shortly followed by Naruto's boost in western popularity around 04-05), that's why CoS is UNIVERSALLY regarded as complete dogshit, everyone watched FMA03 and went to see the sequel.

>>280639405
Toei has existed since the 1950s.
working animators to death has been the norm across the world since the very beginning, Walt Disney was basically forcing interns and receptionists to do unpaid overtime to finish movies back when he was alive, and the Jap animators were getting paid even less.

the reason bubble era anime was so well animated is for the same reason their economy was booming: real estate speculation meant they had more money than they knew what to do with, so they were throwing mountains of cash at any vanity project that came an investor's way because they were guaranteed to make the money back.

>>280639644
You got half of it right. They did have a lot of money, but that was their downfall.

>>280639477
DBZ remained a major cultural touchstone for years after the series stopped premiering. There's a reason why so much of 00s anime internet culture is DBZ references. NO other anime has had something as iconic as Over 9000 or power levels, for example. People reference that stuff even without knowing what it's from, just from cultural osmosis.

>>280639755
>There's a reason why so much of 00s anime internet culture is DBZ references.
That's because DBZ was still airing on broadcast TV and getting "new" movies at the time, simply because Americans got the series so late. Dragon Ball Z, as Americans knew it, ended in 2003.
The things you listed as iconic are also primarily iconic BECAUSE for several YEARS the same 50 odd episodes of DBZ were rebroadcasted in the 90s. That's why they took off.
But my point was that this idea of sustained popularity = cultural touchstone is dumb because Dragon Ball itself didn't stay relevant. Barely anyone cared about DBGT which aired from 03-04, and basically nobody gave a shit about DB which aired concurrently.
Naruto itself IS a cultural touchstone in the same way. There was a whole thing during covid about "Naruto running into Area 51", years after Naruto had ended and over a decade past its peak of relevancy.

>>280639888
>ended in 2003
and for years after was still getting memes. Shoop Da Woop and Daily Dose are from what, 2007?
>nobody cared about GT
and? we're talking about Z.

the Naruto Run meme was the first time anyone talked about it or cared in years, and Shippuden was still airing at the time.

>>280640111
>Shoop Da Woop
More like 2005 probably.
>Daily Dose
That was literally forced spam. That's in the name.
>and? we're talking about Z.
Which again, shows that Dragon Ball as a franchise had a sell by date on sustained interest.
>the Naruto Run meme was the first time anyone talked about it or cared in years, and Shippuden was still airing at the time.
Huge difference there in that the majority of people interested in Naruto had finished it by 2015.
With Dragon Ball Z, the vast majority of people watching it watched it via American broadcast.

>>280640259
>2005
not according to KYM (grain of salt), the first shoop da woop is a YT video from 2007.
>forced spam
still a meme, one that people still talk about today. you post purple and green anywhere and people will know what it's referring to. regardless, my point with Over 9000 and power levels is that they got so popular that people who have never seen DBZ will reference them in regular speech even 20+ years after the fact. They've become general internet slang. the fact GT has no real internet memes despite airing afterwards is proof of my point.

can you name a single Naruto meme? not even one that normalfags recognise, but just in general?

>>280640503
>not according to KYM (grain of salt), the first shoop da woop is a YT video from 2007.
I didn't need to check, but I did and it confirmed what I was thinking, which is that it actually came from /b/ (and that they don't know the exact date it came around, just that the earliest YT example is 2007).
>can you name a single Naruto meme? not even one that normalfags recognise, but just in general?
Well, I did. Naruto running. I don't tend to stick around in normalfag circles, but I do recall the soundtrack also being a meme, similar to how the American replacement score for Dragon Ball gets used a lot for memes.

>>280640637
Naruto running being the only one, and requires 'Naruto' in the name for people to recognise it.
Over 9000 doesn't need a 'Vegeta screams' clarification.

>>280554582
Anon I'm born in 04 and read books from centuries ago.....

>>280640887
The problem with Naruto is that shit that was done all the fucking time in ninja suddenly all got attached to Naruto even if its something incredibly basic. You can't even have plated head bands without some pud acting like they invented that shit.

>>280641358
DNR is a crime

>>280642138
no se pq pasaban ranma con ese mierdero doblaje castellano y no con el doblaje latino

>>280622387
In hindsight, GTO is an epitaph for the era of delinquent manga. MC is an ex-delinquent teaching a new generation of kids who outwardly aren't rowdy or running in gangs, but who are quietly suffering with their own struggles. It's a snapshot of a society in transition,

>>280536497 (OP)
I finally started GTO and it's peak. Onizuka already rocketing up the list of my favorite anime protags.

>>280634152
thats a fun shot

>>280619716
oh hey i just downloaded this yesterday thanks to the webm thread. those bgs look gorgeous

>>280642632
I know that

>>280622387
GTO was a good manga, but I couldn't get into the anime. If you want a good mix of action and GTO goofiness read the prequel.

>>280648190
cute spook

>TFW you finish a favorite OVA and are left wanting more

>>280626624
I like the manga

>>280650699
Aren't the commercials?

>>280536497 (OP)
Just watched Black Magic M-66 and Appleseed, they’re pretty great.

Boomers up in here

>>280639477
Sorry, but America is an outlier in the case of DB. Sure it was super popular, but the fact that you guys didn't see the original DB makes it so your run was much shorter than the rest of the world.

And no wonder GT fizzled out. I know it aired right after Z, but it was horrible filler no one cared about, fans or not. There's no excuse to consider it part of the rest.

>>280639755
Also this. Around here, DB kept airing and re-airing for more than a decade on non-mainstream channels.

>>280639888
>Naruto running into Area 51
Naruto was still airing and was completely relevant at the time.

>>280639628
>>280639582
FMA aired on mainstream TV in America? Didn't know that.
And what is "CoS"?

>>280642138
>>280642688
Wanna know what's even weirder?
Locomotion aired a version of Ranma in Portugal in brazilian portuguese that never even aired in Brazil. What the fuck!?

>>280652595
The botched release of DB not once but twice in the states was a tragedy. They couldn't even get DBZ right the first time they tried to release it heavily edited in 96.

I think Naruto had been off the air for a few years before the Area 51 event.

FMA ran on Cartoon Network which would have been included in almost any basic cable package at the time. COS probably refers to the FMA movie.

>>280652758
>The botched release of DB not once but twice in the states was a tragedy
Indeed. When I first got internet, I was shocked to learn that the americans started the DB story right in the middle, which made absolutely no sense to me. Like, characters weren't even introduced, they all just showed up nonsensically with planet-destroying powers.
I think they didn't even know that Goku's full name was actually Son Goku. Same for Son Gohan, etc.

The swapped OST was another tragedy. The original japanese soundtrack was absolute soulful and is still one of the best ever for action anime for me.

>>280652910
It's like how we got GTO. Shonan Junai Gumi was full of great stories and character development that was completely ignored in the states. GTO might have felt like a more well rounded series, but it was made so much better with all the context of the original.

I didn't watch much DBZ growing up. When I finally went to watch the series from the beginning DBZ felt totally uninteresting compared to DB. DB was so much better, but it never gets talked about here.

Does bible black count?

>>280652595
original Dragon Ball only aired chronologically in a select few other countries, mainly France. and it did air in the US starting sometime during the late Buu saga. it was sold as a prequel.

>>280653059
>It's like how we got GTO
I've only watched the anime. I still have the "prequel" manga in my to-read list. But yeah, I know what you mean.

>DB was so much better, but it never gets talked about here.
Agree. DBZ was also awesome, but it was a totally different kind of show. The original DB felt like an adventure. I was glued to the TV back then.

>>280653134
>select few other countries, mainly France
Wasn't that the case for most of Europe?
Here in Portugal we got the french edit, so we got the full show.

>>280651255
Its from a direct to video episode

Give me an old anime to watch that's good but hasn't been mentioned yet in the thread. Ctrl+f if you have to.

>>280653108
No

>>280653850
Detective Conan.

>>280554222
Not everyone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDk6ebycUnw&list=RDDDk6ebycUnw&start_radio=1

>>280653850
Tiger Mask

>>280633955
Ranmaru'sBoys

>>280655076
luv me sum gekimation

Can I ask for recs here? If so, I'd like to hear some of obscure sci-fi or fantasy anime you like that isn't some ahead of it's time, underrated hidden gem but just a solidly entertaining work. A 7/10, if you will.