Despite how rushed it is, does Sasuke Retrieval's positives outweight the negatives?

>>280547085 (OP)
I wouldn't call it rushed, but the pacing definitely picks up a bit near the end; what with the Tayuya, Kimmi, and Sakon fights all going on at the same time. It leads to lowkey one of the best ENTERs in Part 1 though, so I don't mind.

>kidomaru has massive tunnel vision and only thinks of trying to exploit the byakugan's blind spot
>neji's gentle fist somehow can't pierce spider goo if it's on the skin
>kiba didn't thrust into tayuya at max power for some reason
>lee has back surgery, recovers, and is able to catch up to the protags and fight in less than the 3 hours they've been gone
I used to like it, but I feel like it's just falling apart at the slightest bit of scrutiny.

>>280547244
>neji's gentle fist somehow can't pierce spider goo if it's on the skin
It was a very HARD goo though.

Come to think of it, weren't Izumo and Kotetsu just delivering papers when Tsunade heard the news that Sasuke ran off? Surely she could've sent them too?

>>280547085 (OP)
Odd, Sakon's hair is supposed to be gray but the colored manga made it blue-ish, is this the only time where the anime is closer to canon when it comes to color schemes?

>>280547349
They would've been fucked

>>280547349
Maybe? Aren't they Hokage bodyguards or something? Honestly, the fact their carrying paperwork at all is fucking dumb if you think about it. Why not have a genin do that since they aren't the one's going on high-rank missions? Or fuck, just put all that shit into a scroll and zip across the rooftops straight to her office? Why waste time slowing moving huge stacks at walking speed?

>>280547349
Probably, if they can blitz Kakuzu then they should be able to make quick work of the sound jobbers.

>>280547349
To be fair to her, sending off your elite members to "rescue" some deserter isn't the best use of resources, especially when your village is unstable at the moment.

>>280547244
>neji's gentle fist somehow can't pierce spider goo if it's on the skin
He fucked up the goo armour and cracked it and kishi showed that it fell to pieces with 64 fists before knowing it was not possible to break it and when kido was caught off guard.

Kido only tunneled vision after playing it very smart, pulling distance, camping, testing angles and limits, and finally got too excited "gamer mode" and wanting to one shot Neji with a big arrow instead of witling him down further with spam.
>kiba didn't
because he isn't smart, and shikamaru was the thinker. He was probably running a shikamaru laid out plan just like how naruto triple-feinted for his coffin snatch to happen. The mission was not to kill, but to retreive. They know if it comes to combat they were disadvantaged as mid/genin and kept leaving a man behind.
>lee
Yeah that's bullshit. It also minimizes the supposed impact of Lee's decision and resolve, as retarded as it was.

>>280547447
>Aren't they Hokage bodyguards or something?
That was Gemma, Raido and some other guy, i dunno if it was Aoba.

>>280547470
Pretty sure those guys are tokubetsu and not full jonin.

Obito could literally have just grabbed Naruto during this arc. He left the village of his own volition with no protection except a few Genin and a freshly promoted chuunin.

It's not like Orochimaru would have cared or tried to stop him.

>>280547523
>>280547470
>>280547349
So what the fuck is the supposed Anbu TEAM good for

>>280547597
Obito wasn't completely thought out yet.

>>280547597
Even outside of this arc there are countless opportunities where Obito could've just taken Naruto. Kamui puts him in the top 3 strongest characters in the entire series before the tentails shit, it's not like anyone from the Leaf could properly defend him. It's pretty retarded how he just lets him wander around.

>>280547611
They're good for jobbing. It takes a lot of talent to have an entire organization job as hard as they do.

>>280547349
Ninjas are also capable of administrative work, please understand.
>>280547611
Anbu are worse than fire style jutsu, smart of the best hoekage to not send jobbers to die. Also could be that the elders or the one eyed man didn’t want to send any.
>>280547085 (OP)
Arc is very fun which is all that matters. The Opening is really one of the best from Naruto and we get to at least see some of the cast do stuff.

How fucking far away is Orochimaru even supposed to be right now from the Leaf?

So Here's a list of every contrived bit we've seen so far in the daily:
>Only sending 5 genin to rescue Sasuke, no other genin or chunin were avaible or worth bringing up, not even Izumo and Kotetsu who were just doing paper work
>Neji having his Byakugan off so Ukon can break Shika's Shadow possession
>Neji being completely unable to see Jirobo digging underground.
>Everyone agreeing to let Choji 1v1 Jirobo despite the fact that they would've taken him out in minutes at best if they gang up on him.
>Jirobo had multiple opportunities to suck Choji's chakra and yet didn't do it.
>Jirobo suddenly changes his mind about killing Choji by leeching his reserves dry to just punch him to death instead, while also stopping midway through to take a bite out of Choji's snack.
>Jirobo could've gone underground to avoid getting his ribcage crushed by Choji.
>Naruto doesn't even attempt to use fox chakra to cut Kido's webs.
>Naruto waiting for all his clones to he destroyed to sneak attack Kidomaru.
>Neji being unable to see Kidomaru's armor until finishing 64 palms and not seeing that the giant spider was fake.
>Kidomaru getting like a kilometer or so away from Neji off-screen and still being able to locate Neji without a fucking Byakugan.
>Neji pulls out a never seen before paralyzing technique using the principles of the gentle fist, because Kidomaru didn't take out the thread from his mouth after hitting it.
>Half dead Neji being able to reach a free falling Kidomaru before he even lands on the ground right AFTER having a flashback and struggling to reach him the whole fight.
>Naruto didn't just bombard Sakon and Tayuya with thousands of clones.
>Kiba not hitting Tayuya.
>The team splitting up because Akamaru TRIPPED and Sakon retardly went for the dog instead.

>>280547820
>one eyed man
He's been alive for so long in a village full of magic eyes, he couldn't scrounge up a spare one?

Actually this makes me think. What the fuck happened to all the dead Uchiha eyes, did no one secretly not take one or two before they were cremated? Like, they keep making a big dead about how even a dead uchiha eye could benefit research on a village breaking level.

>>280548397
Kishi made it seem like stealing a body with a kekkei genkai could somehow let enemies reverse engineer its secrets or something, but I don't think that topic's ever really brought up again.

>>280548224
>Everyone agreeing to let Choji 1v1 Jirobo despite the fact that they would've taken him out in minutes at best if they gang up on him.
The extra fucked up part is that the exact same thing could've been done in reverse once Jiribo domes them. Even just Tayuya staying behind with while Kido and Sakon go on ahead probably would've been enough. Jiribo sucks them up, and Tayuya puts them into a genjutsu they can't chakra surge out of.

>>280548224
All of the neji stuff you said just proves you don't pay attention.

Kido was not a mile away. He was just outside the 50m range. The big spider was not a fake, it got popped or desummoned upon hit, creating a diversion.

Neji's byakugan is not always active, and still require chakra to kick into start mode at his level. Also shown to be limited in 50m range AND he was popping a chakra fart around him to make up for the blind spot to detect stuff. Kishi did the page of graphic to show this.

Kiba tayuya stuff was explained, their goal was not to kill/fight, but to retrieve and run.

Naruto has almost no conscious control of fox shit at this stage.

The Jirobo stuff you are right on.

>>280548545
>Kido was not a mile away. He was just outside the 50m range.
The shot where we Kidomaru's arrow tearing through the forrest looked MUCH further than just slightly more than 50m.
>Neji's byakugan is not always active
It was active in the moments i mentioned.
>The big spider was not a fake, it got popped or desummoned upon hit
I don't think that's how summoning works.
>Kiba tayuya stuff was explained, their goal was not to kill/fight, but to retrieve and run.
He could have hit Tayuya, sending her flying and then grab the casket, kills two birds with a single stone.

>>280548545
>Naruto has almost no conscious control of fox shit at this stage.
He literally used against Neji and attemptented to do so against Kisame, all with ease.
>>280548224
Forgot the part where Shizune and some other guy only decided to check in on Gemma and Raido after they were not only defeated but the sound 4 also got so much further away that they didn't even bother pursue the jobbers.

>>280548766
Didn't Naruto basicaally have to beg the fox to let'em use the chakra in that fight or was that a different moment?
Also yeah what the fuck is up with Genma and Raido shit. They heard the commotion of the Sound 4 running through the woods but Shizune and the other dude didn't hear any of the fighting?

Has anyone here played Gekitou Ninja Taisen 4 for GameCube? It's a fun fighting game based on the Sasuke retrieval arc, I'd imported it back in the day. Some people modded the game to be more balanced, and apparently now it has it's own little community. If anyone is interested here's a video of a recent tournament: https://youtu.be/aVmByZzdkII?si=u2imTZYFJJHGcst_

>>280548827
It wasn't much of a beg and more of a demand like "time to pay your fucking rent", for all the grumpness Kurama has, he never denied Naruto chakra when he asked or needed and i don't think Kurama wouldn't give him chakra there.

>>280548545
Bro, you CANNOT fucking tell me that this isn't a multiple kilometers distance.

>>280549062
what is that in freedom units? like 600 inches?

>>280549158
1 km is lile 0.6 miles.

>>280549062
That is definitely not a multiple kilometers distance just judging by the number of trees.

>>280547981
Well, he's presumably in another country.
I can't remember where in the Land of Fire the Leaf village is, but if it isn't close to the border, then it'd clearly be quite a ways away.

>>280549316
But it is WAY higher than 50 meters, which makes you wonder how Kidomaru was even able to see Neji at all.

>>280547470
That deserter was the only Uchiha/pair of Sharingan left.

>>280549316
The smoke doesn't even fit in the panel though, there could be more trees between Kido and Neji there.

>>280547085 (OP)
No, it's shit like the rest.

>>280550360
Thanks for the bump, fag.

>>280548224
The Leaf already spends all of its GDP to make sure Sasuke's coddled, get him a black ops, and his own court jester. All those funds from Itachi along with with Tsukiyomi recorded genjutsu can do so much. Part II explained Danzo stole the rest of the money for Root leaving Tsunade with the bare minimum. Orochimaru got kicked out cause he wanted that bloated science budget.

I kinda failed to notice, but Kishimoto broke the rule of "shadow clones disappears when you hit them" by having 2 of them take Sakon's punch barrage.

>>280547085 (OP)
I missed todays chapters of Tayuya being cute

>>280551181
Would your wife have TANKED Kiba drilling into her if he wasn't retarded?

>>280551398
Fang over Fang isn't that strong, she'd be hurt but not defeated.

>>280551479
Would've made things easier for Shikamaru.

>>280551181
Were her eyes also brown in the anime?

>>280547470
That's not just "some" deserter, that's the last sharingan user of the village. Surely Orochimaru obtaining a sharingan vessel is an existential threat to the village?

>>280551797
Y-yes, the last. There are no others. Absolutely not.

>>280548887
that's pretty cool. gnt board on gfaqs was one of my earliest communities

>>280551816
Okay fine, that slightly suspicious gentlemen might have ONE eye beneath those bandages.

>>280544423
>>280544423
>fuck this dog in particular

>>280551524
I don't think it would actually defeat her before Temari shows up.

>>280551041
There is no rule. Clones do whatever is convenient at the moment.

where's my personal snowbunny secretary?

>>280547085 (OP)
This arc is proof that Shikamaru bags nothing but older women. I wonder if Sasuke and Neji are more of the same.

>>280548224
You forgot
>The elite bodyguards of one of the most powerful guys in the setting can all get defeated by 13 year old trainees.

>>280552655
Choji had to take suicide pills, Neji is a prodigy and everyone else had to be saved by the Sand siblings, one of which was Kage material and the other two were more or less jonin at that point

>>280547085 (OP)
>Despite how rushed it is
We just making shit up now?

>>280552894
After Neji vs Kidomaru, it definitely felt like Kishi was rushing to get to Naruto vs Sasuke.

>>280547244
Tsunade is the best medic in the world fixing up the local sped ninja so he can rush off on a suicide mission like 20 minutes after surgery is childs play

I love them

>>280553293
why didn't they have more moments together?
why didn't they hookup sooner
goddammit kishi

I love them.

>>280548397
My beautiful wife and her cute weasel...

>>280553359
Temari unintentionally saved Hinata from indulging in homosexuality and becoming a genetic dead end to the Hyuga by killing Tayuya.

>>280553394
>genetic dead end
She wouldn't be.

>>280553359
tayuya fag, please

>>280547085 (OP)
The daily chapters really made this series even worse

>>280552987
>it definitely felt like Kishi was rushing to get to Naruto vs Sasuke.
No it didn't.

>>280553717
You can't read Kiba's fight and say this.

>>280553485
Please what?

>>280553394
The Master Plan can continue with sperm donors, relax

>>280551666
Seems right, maybe not as dark

>>280553339
What if Hinata was in Team 7 and the female lead instead of Sakura? Basically if they switched places. Would Naruto as a series be improved? Or does Hinata lack the "it" girl energy?

Do you guys ever talk about anything new or interesting?

>>280554569
Such as?

>>280554638
You tell me. It's the same shit that's been talked to death over and over. No idea why you faggots cling to this series when there's nothing new to talk about.

>>280549359
probably with webs

>>280551797
not really the sharingan is strong but it's not like it allow you to win against everyone simply by looking at them that would be ridiculous

>>280548397
didn't tobi take them?

>>280551398
Yeah I think so if she braced her tummy with a little chakra

>>280553359
What's with fanbase's obsession with Hinata crack pairings?

>>280554138
please make me kiss ur feet

>>280554522
Her original team is all about detection and gaining an info advantage on a target so they can gain an starting advantage through sneak attacks and surprise rush attacks.

Team 7 is basically one massive stat stick, a guy with the most busted level up learnset+innate ability and is super versatile, and Sakura who mainly does healing and any other responsibilities you don't want the two battering rams to waste time/chakra/focus on.

>>280554745
And I don't get why you need to constantly enter these just so you could seethe relentlessly at them. You're really pathetic.

>>280554569
>>280554745
You think we know about everything that was posted on the internet and discussed about Naruto since 2000 until today?
>dude this was discussed on yahoo answers in 2004 by xXNinja_GodzillaXx, find something new

>>280555015
>you need to constantly enter these
I don't, but it's cute you think I'm some boogeyman in these threads. Says more about you than me. Quite pathetic, really.

>>280555065
Anon, pls. You don't have to defer to dead obscure forums to know these threads, and this site, just talk about the same shit over and over, unless you're a gargantuan newfag.

>>280554745
If you don't think there is anything new to talk about why don't you just leave?

>>280555139
Excuse me for seeing if there was anything interesting in the thread there's not but just like every Naruto thread on this board, as of recent, the only discussion that ever occurs is pointless arguments because of faggots like you that can't bring anything else to the table.

>>280555134
what's your point? people talk about the same things all the time, on all websites

>>280547518
>because he isn't smart, and shikamaru was the thinker
The plan was Shikamaru's, that's why he looks pleased when Kiba does it like it's all going as he planne, so it ain't a matter of him being dumb. Unless you mean Kiba should have ignored what Shikamaru said in which case lol no because Kishi would never allow his self-insert's genius be questioned.

>>280555197
>everyone else does it so it makes it okay!
It doesn't matter anon. I'm just commenting how sad it is you faggots can't move on from a series that ended a decade ago. On top of that, you can't even have interesting discussions about it anymore. Oh well, enjoy talking about your irrelevant waifus and pointless power wanking.

>>280555248
so your mad that Naruto was a cultural phenomenon that people are talking about to this day, and we should CONSUME THE NEXT PRODUCT and move on.

>>280555139
>>280555346
Stop replying to the retard.

>>280547085 (OP)
the storm 1 and clash of ninja 4 version of this arc is interesting

Just a few more chapters until the undisputed STRONGEST genjutsu debuts.

>>280555403
>strongest genjutsu
>genin Shikamaru and Itachi manage to escape
classic Kishimoto

>>280555346
>so your mad
ESL...
>that Naruto was a cultural phenomenon that people are talking about to this day
Are they? Who is talking about it, outside this board?
>and we should CONSUME THE NEXT PRODUCT and move on
What a sad mentality. Were people just CONSOOMING when they first read Naruto? Are you just CONSOOMING whenever you try to read something new? I understand most of the current things are shit, but if you're outlook is that of
>trying anything new = consooming next thing
Then you're going to be stuck in the past and never move forward.
>>280555377
Concession accepted. You lost.

>>280555468
>Are they? Who is talking about it, outside this board?
this thread called naruto in the anime and manga board of 4chan? where you are posting right now? or you could go anywhere that you would expect to find Naruto discussion and find it? you're a brainlet dude

>Then you're going to be stuck in the past and never move forward.
no one is staying here 24/7, I bet everyone in these threads have 100+ tabs open with other interests. YOUR mad bro.
Naruto won

>>280555616
>you're a brainlet dude
The projection is strong with this one.
>this thread called naruto in the anime and manga board of 4chan? where you are posting right now? or you could go anywhere that you would expect to find Naruto discussion and find it?
>no one is staying here 24/7, I bet everyone in these threads have 100+ tabs open with other interests. YOUR mad bro.
Words words words. All the seething is palpable, and you have no arguments. Concession accepted. You lost AND you're pathetic. Lol.

>>280555468
Don't bother anon. These threads have become full of SARS. They have no real agency or capability for real discussion. They just shit out the same topics. It's all they know.

>>280555660
>replies with no arguments

Gotta say, one thing that I really hate about this series are how bad the relationship between all the characters are and how much everyone seems to hate one another.
>Naruto is a retard that annoys everyone around him
>Sasuke doesn't care about anyone
>Sakura has a one-sided obsession for Sasuke while she treats Naruto like shit
>Shikaramu is an asshole to everyone except for Choji
>Choji's whole character is him being a fat retard
>Ino is like Sakura
>Kiba is like Naruto but more of an asshole
>Hinata and Shino barely interact with other characters
>Guy's team is extremely similar to Kakashi's in terms of their dynamics
It just kinda makes everyone really unlikable. I remember watching ATLA (western slop I know) and really appreciating how the main characters clearly respected and cared about each other. It made the whole show really enjoyable.

>>280555692
Careful there, they're guaranteed to report you whenever you call them out. It's amazing how thin skinned they are.

>>280555692
>real discussion is when you post porn images like in the other threads XD
lmao

>>280555712
You lost lol

Gotta say, one thing that I really hate about this series is how bad the relationships between all the characters are and how much everyone seems to hate one another.
>Naruto is a retard that annoys everyone around him
>Sasuke doesn't care about anyone
>Sakura has a one-sided obsession for Sasuke while she treats Naruto like shit
>Shikaramu is an asshole to everyone except for Choji
>Choji's whole character is him being a fat retard
>Ino is like Sakura
>Kiba is like Naruto but more of an asshole
>Hinata and Shino barely interact with other characters
>Guy's team is extremely similar to Kakashi's in terms of their dynamics
It just kinda makes everyone really unlikable. I remember watching ATLA (western slop I know) and really appreciating how the main characters clearly respected and cared about each other. It made the whole show really enjoyable.

>>280552655
They admit they would've been trashed by two jounin if they hadn't gone curse seal 2 right off the bat.

>>280555790
>Kiba is like Naruto but more of an asshole
Honestly Kiba seems more like he's just Naruto but less bratty, like he'd be a year older maturity wise in terms of scale.

>>280555761
Lol. What a dumbass.

>>280555468
>>280555692
>>280555754
>starts samefagging
God you're so pathetic, lmao. I bet you're the same faggot who keeps spamming this picture
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/filename/16851266526931.jpg/
I hope you stay mad forever.

>>280555847
Lol. Get a load of this SAR. Thin-skinned and predictable, as always.

>>280555832
>he's just Naruto but less bratty
He kind of nearly got his team killed in the Forest of Death though

>>280555863
Prob gonna get banned anon. They don't like being exposed.

>>280555876
That's more just curiosity I think, no way they could have known what a freak Gaara is

>>280555790
they are inconsistent. Naruto is a retard until he isn't... and Sasuke is his rival until he's the only true friend he had. And he's lonely until he had friends in the village. Rock Lee has a rivalry with Neji until he doesn't, for no reason. Shikamaru is an asshole until you get a flashback when he was always friends with Naruto. it's poor writing

>>280555440
Itachi couldn't get out on his own though, he needed Sasuke's help.

>>280547349
They didn’t instantly die to Kakazu so they probably could have done something against the jobber 4.

>>280556129
I believe that's the issue

Yawn. Boring thread

>>280547244
>neji's gentle fist somehow can't pierce spider goo if it's on the skin
gum style web block chakra
>kiba didn't thrust into tayuya at max power for some reason
it works if you use the rule that only appeared once that Shika takes the damage of his target, wich unironically fixes many things of the shadow possession, at the cost of being even more copied from Ino, and making the team composition even more unbalanced.
>lee has back surgery, recovers, and is able to catch up to the protags and fight in less than the 3 hours they've been gone
That's just comical, he spawns beside Naruto without meeting anyone of those they left behind just to stall a bit Kimimaro.

>>280547244
and at the end of the arc there's no spy sent by Tsunade who can see where Sasuke is going to locate Orochimaru? not even someone from the Sand village? Why is the sand village sending genin to another village to help? Wasn't Kakashi aware that Sasuke could be kidnapped when he already has a curse mark and him and Anko knew it was Orochimaru who did it? there was no way for Kakashi to use one of his 1000 jutsus and dogs to locate Sasuke and attack Orochimaru?
then 2 years pass and nobody attacks Orochimaru after killing 2 Kages? And after he left Akatsuki and wanted to destroy the village of the Kyuubi - they send Itachi to get Naruto but absolutely ignore Orochimaru betraying them as an asset? even more, Sasori is willing to make plans with Orochimaru at the bridge without Pain killing them all?

stuff like this is why you can't treat this manga seriously

>>280556870
Gaara and his siblings were clearly above genin level thoever.
(you can also chalk it up to Suna being a shit village and its best ninjas being the Kazekage's kids)

>>280557313
Suna doesn't make sense at all. Their existence should be about going to other places for resources but they don't have anything to offer other villages

>>280554522
there are tons of fanfics with this premise

>>280557567
What resources? They're a military outpost, the state gives them what they need.

>>280557808
...Orochimaru larped as their leader for months

>>280557844
He larped as the leader of a military outpost.

>>280554522
The real replacement for Sakura is did you think I was gonna say Tayuya? Well I was actually thinking of RtN Sakura, because she would (or at least, logically should) take being a ninja more seriously than her canon self.
How the fuck did she get there? Somebody else can some up with an explanation when they make their fanfic.

>>280554522
She'd be less annoying but it still wouldn't be interesting because she's still a girl. A very marginal improvement.

>>280557881
dumb hat
dumb bandages

>>280547820
>the elders
I swear fucking ninja boomers ruin every village

>>280554522
>>280558027
Solution: Turn Sakura into a boy.

>>280558104
>Still alive in Boruto with the same positions
Literally too corrupt to die.

>>280558114
Based

>>280558027
this pink bitch needs a proper good dicking

>>280558243
Rock Leebros... it's time.

>>280547085 (OP)
The story really rushed through pre-TS.
Naruto and friends went to fighting other genins to suddenly fighting low tier jonins (Sound Four).
It could use 2-3 more smaller arcs where they fight ninjas from other villages that are at genin-chuunin level to make the progression feels smoother.

>>280558346
>Naruto and friends went to fighting other genins
they literally never fought genins

>>280558377
Tournament arc?

>>280558432
nobody there was a "genin" except Sakura and Ino

>>280558469
The fuck are you trying to say?

>>280558489
figure it out yourself retard

7 more years of Boruto, and then what?

>>280558703
10 years of Saruto.

>>280554811
Beside they still have the byakugan

>>280558703
Millennials will be in their 40s so probably a full remake of the Naruto anime without filler and hindsight of adjusting some scenes and lines to make retcons less egregious.

>>280559100
>hindsight of adjusting some scenes and lines to make retcons less egregious.
Kakashi gets stabbed 20 times only in the Tsukyiomi

>>280559100
I miss the time when Akatsuki was menacing

>>280554522
It would be improved for the following reasons:
>better NH development
>possibility of exploring Hyuuga stuff more (more Neji/Hiashi/Hanabi screentime)
>Sasuke has a platonic female friend for a change
>Hinata just naturally fits better as a medic (built in x-ray/microscope, nurturing demeanor, high chakra control from gentle fist)
>Sakura's affinity for genjutsu can actually be explored
>did I mention better NH development?

>>280556870
>stuff like this is why you can't treat this manga seriously
And it's all over the place. I spit on anyone debating this manga seriously when it's clear Kishimoto paid no attention

>>280548545
>He was just outside the 50m range
What 50m range? Do you seriously suddenly believe Neji can only see in a 50m range? Because this is laughable. This is the most retarded attempt at damage control for Kishimoto's badly written manga.
>NO LOOK SEE THE FIGHT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE HUH... NEJI CAN'T SEE BEYOND 50 METERS WITH HIS BYAKUGAN EVEN THOUGH REGULAR PEOPLE CAN SEE FURTHER THAN THAT AND HINATA CASUALLY SEES THINGS 10 KILOMETERS AWAY, IT'S DEFINITELY WRITTEN LIKE THIS ON PURPOSE AND NOT JUST KISHIMOTO WRITING THOUGHTLESSLY AS ALWAYS

>>280555403
>>280555440
>>280556129
>strongest genjutsu
ENTER.

>>280561634
>genjutsu gives you a weapon to finish off your opponent with
The frogs thought of everything.

>>280561592
>What 50m range? Do you seriously suddenly believe Neji can only see in a 50m range?
It is explicitly stated.

>>280562130
>sense all airborne attack within 50m
Does that mean he can only see up to 50m? This is retarded and vastly inconsistent with everything else. Is Hinata able to sense all airborne attack within 10 kilometers?

>>280562165
>Does that mean he can only see up to 50m?
What the fuck else could it possibly mean? "Oh I can see these but I can't sense them" like what???

>Is Hinata able to sense all airborne attack within 10 kilometers?
Yes?

>>280562179
This is retarded and if you believe somehow Neji can only see up to 50 meters and that was Kishimoto's intent despite drawing scenes of Neji watching things from very very far away. Were the sound 5 only 50 meters away here? Why do they need Neji to find them then? Why aren't they hearing Naruto yell?

This is why you're a mouthbreathing autist, you're trying to make sense of what is obviously Kishimoto writing for children with no critical thinking, putting you lower than even them

>>280562179
>Yes the clan of guys who can see really well and really far? Well, their genius can't even see as far as a regular person, but one of their untalented shitters can at least 10 kilometers ahead. Is that ever highlighted and part of the plot? Do characters ever highlight how shit that makes the so-called genius? No, in fact it will only come up in a line that tries to set up context for a badly written fight to pretend this fight makes sense (even though it doesn't even if you accept it)
Why are you like this?

.

>>280562130
I don't think that 50m is referring to his sight, he says he can sense attacks in a 50m radius, probably similar to how he used his chakra to sense and deflect a later attack

>>280562348
Ffs the artwork is so much shittier in Shippuden

>>280562348
GAYYYY

>>280562400
It's literally the same shit as now. Simplified designs in line with the anime ones.

>>280562400
Kishimoto's gritty artstyle lasted a grand total of 40 chapters. And tbf the characters looked far too cartoonish early on. This one is too clean but character models are better in most panels.

>>280562348

>>280562241
>>280562302
>>280562373
The cope is huge. Sorry the manga contradicts your headcanon. Try to be more mature about being proven wrong.

>>280554522
It wouldn't improve because Kishimoto is still the writer and Hinata is still a woman.

>>280562970
Hinata was good in every appearance she had.

>>280562948
It's not about "headcanons", or "feats" or whatever, it's about COMMON SENSE and writing you fucking retard

>>280563010
Common sense is just your bias and preconceived notions. Calm down and be objective for a change.

>>280563072
I am perfectly objective about the simple fact that Kishimoto's writing is wildly inconsistent and that he never intended to have Neji be the blind retard who can't see beyond 50 meters but wrote a line that seems to imply that in the context of this badly written fight that makes no sense with or without it

>>280562991
She actively got worse as the series went along and it would be even worse if she was a main character.

>>280563123
Nah, she was good. This is just rationalization on your end.

>>280563281
Kishimoto turning an one-off gag at the end of part 1 into a defining trait of hers in part 2 is laughable.

>>280563308
filler and the rock lee joke spin off did that

>>280563508
Her debut in part 2 did that and those pick it up.
Kiba straight up says "Why do you always do this?"

>>280563822
this is a massive stretch and you know it

>>280563860
>The text is lying bro

>>280563822
It doesn't matter what Kiba says, she doesn't do it any other time in part 2.

>>280564718
I'm saying that it retroactively implies that Hinata did it a lot in the academy days or even before the chunin exams.

>>280565049
Even so, it's just a statement. Her actual character moments don't involve it.

seeing hinata go from a lovely young girl to a beautiful grown woman gives me a weird boner
like the childhood romance you never had

goddammit

>>280563308
>>280563822
>>280565049
I don't remember what you guys are talking about. What does Hinata do?

>>280565636
he means the stalking and fainting memes

>>280565140
I gave an example, it's not the defacto reason why her part 2 iteration sucks.

>>280547085 (OP)
>negatives

It's one of the best anime arcs of all time, what the fuck are you talking about?
LMAO, post-2020 anime fans are different.

>>280565969
If you were actually reading the manga you'd know exactly what people are talking about, the arc is rushed af

>>280547085 (OP)
I think Kishi's phase in this arc of having "sequence" panels like these is very interesting, I forgot that I had clipped together this example a while ago

>>280565969
Since when was this arc ever considered perfect?

>>280566229
this looks like Kido was 2 trees away from Neji lmao

was rewatching Sasuke retrieval kinda sad that Naruto didn't just get to have a nice 1v1 fight against Sasuke on some buddy rivalry shit, it was always life or death shit with them. Why couldn't Sasuke just be cool

>>280565908
The point is that her actual scenes are good.

CAPTAIN
ORDER US TO ARREST YOUR SON
HE'S BEING A DICK TO US

lol why are Uchiha so retarded

>>280566179
Oh really? Did you read it when it was released weekly?

>>280567175
Only good scene Hinata has in part 2 is helping Ino in the war and slap Naruto.

>>280567311
The confession is good, as is the scene where she convinces everyone Naruto's not a zetsu.

>>280567161
Uchiha genetics unironically causes brain damage.

>>280567283
Reading weekly usually makes the pacing seem worse than otherwise

>>280567161
Always remember to say "thanks Aoba"

>>280567345
>The confession is good
The scene that was more of plot device than a moment for her to shine?

>>280567283
No, but I read it, multiple times, and the arc is very short and underbaked, Choji vs Jirobo is a non fight, Neji vs Kidomaru is just 3 chapters of Neji getting shot at and then grabbing a wire

Naruto series has some "so bad it's good" effect on people

>>280567553
>muh plot device
Shut the fuck up you TvTropes redditor

It was a love confession and it showed a lot of things about her character, it was also admirable. You'd have praised that shit if she went on to have an extended fight with Pain or some shit even though it would have added nothing story wise

>>280567619
you're thinking of bleach

>>280567553
Holy shit you sound insufferable.

>>280567650
>TvTropes
You do know the term plot device has been a thing longer than Buffy the Vampire Slayer, right?

>>280567749
I'm not implying TVTropes invented this, I'm implying you overusing this term where it doesn't belong make you one of them

>>280567553
>more of plot device
The fuck does this even mean? What a vapid thing to say.

>>280567650
>or some shit even though it would have added nothing story wise
I would've praised it if she did something smart that actually helped Naruto while putting himself and the village at risk.

>>280568068
You're completely missing the point of the sacrifice if you think "achieving something smart that helps the village" is how it should have went.

>>280568068
can you think of anything or are you the type of retard that thinks smarts is a super power?

>>280547085 (OP)
Bad writing galore, the S4 should be able to gank fucking Genin

>>280568068
*while not putting himself at risk
>>280568103
Hinata was still insecure after that scene and her relationship with Naruto barely improved, there wasn't a point outside of freeing Naruto

Is there a name for this recurring fandom phenomenon where the shipfaggotry is the lasting legacy of the media in question?

>>280568191
That's an issue you have with what happens AFTER the Pain arc, not the sacrifice scene dumbass

>>280568183
they don't have the power of god of chakra and friendship (even though they were no different than the bootlickers of Konoha)

>Kishi appologists getting this defensive over saying the guy who sucks at writing women sucked at writing women

>>280568209
sex sells + the "will they wont they" intrigue is a true and tested way to get people engaged

>>280568264
I literally mentioned a problem i had WITH the moment itself, the fact nothing happened afterwards shows that the author didn't fucking care about it.

>>280568301
No one's getting defensive, we're just not accepting flimsy evidence.

>>280568346
It shows Kishimoto is a bad writer which I never discussed, not that this scene isn't good

hinata should've used aishteru instead of daisuke

>>280568362
>>280568385
You accept that Kishimoto is a bad writer but not that he put very little effort and meaning into a scene of a character he admittedly sucks at writing?

>>280568479
He made a good scene for a character that had decent foundations but then refused to elaborate on it which is one of his main writer sins, yes

>>280568498
The only thing that changed from her part 1 self is that now she was willingly to directly throw her life away for his sake instead of to impress him.

>>280568301
Personally I think him trying to shill Choji makes it clear he doesn't know how to write good male characters on purpose either desu

how did Yahagi allow him to write women so bad?

>>280568571
There aren't many developments that go beyond throwing your life out for someone. Nobody said Hinata became an incredibly fully fledged 3 dimensional character with tons of new traits, we just said this was a really good scene for her and it really is

i fuck hinata vanilla everyday

>>280568649
You do you i guess.
>>280568602
Choji doesn't count since he's fat.

>>280568613
Yahagi didn't care about that.

>>280568479
You haven't been able to undermine the main point, which is that the few scenes Hinata did get were good. Also he never admitted he sucked at writing Hinata.

>>280568998
Hinata is not a woman then?

this hinata talk reminds me of the thread where her plump bare ass was the op
nice thread and nice image

>>280569038
Argue the main point or stop arguing.

>>280569065
What's there to argue?
The only difference from before is that she got mini Lions for hands and Naruto was in danger when she was throwing her life on the line.
This was not worth the +300 wait for her to do something, but if you enjoy eating that up, more power to you.

>>280569190
The point is that her scenes were good. You are in the severe minority thinking the confession was not good. Case closed.

>>280569190
>*+300 chapters wait

>>280569231
You haven't even elaborated on why it's good.

>>280569329
Oh fuck off, now he's gonna think i'm the schizo.

>>280569288
Because it's a moment where she shows courage not only in revealing her feelings but in fighting a battle she knows she will lose because she can't bring herself to let Naruto go without at least trying to help him. She says she's being selfish and the dichotomy of that selfish impulse for an objectively selfless act makes a good contrast. If you can't understand this talk to a psychiatrist.

>>280569357
it's a funny gif

>>280569369
>Because it's a moment where she shows courage
>but in fighting a battle she knows she will lose
She already did that in part 1 with a much better execution.

>it's literally impossible to discuss this character without having the entire thread turn into an autistic shitstorm

>>280569447
In that battle she was standing up for herself. In the confession she stands up for Naruto. Also, again, she confessed her feelings. That is significant whether you like it or not.

>>280569464
I miss the days on /a/ when Naruto had just ended and everyone was celebrating that the best girl had won the ramenbowl. Those days were sweet.

>>280569480
Oh, so it was just shipfaggotry all along, thanks for wasting my time i guess.

>>280569532
>a character getting the courage to say something they were afraid to say before is just shipfaggotry
You are a pointless existence.

>>280569447
The Neji fight is COMPLETELY different from killing yourself for your convictions

>>280569518
you like your burrito?

Remember that time Hinata tripped over a Rock and then she just gave up walking for a moment and mentally begged for Neji (who was dead) to save Naruto? That was something i couldn't even see Part 1 Hinata doing.

>>280569518
It is legit pretty impressive how people still seethe at her to this day.

>>280569642
Alas, it is rotten.

>>280569567
Naruto didn't care about it and their relationship didn't change, so much for getting courage.

>>280569733
>Naruto didn't care about it
He straight up calls back to it in the war arc and says that she saved him
>their relationship didn't change
Again see above
>so much for getting courage
Whether or not it had an effect changes nothing about whether she was courageous you disingenuous retard.

>>280569778
>she saved him
that was Minato

>>280569825
God you're so fucking intellectually dishonest. Can you read? Can you read the little words that are on your screen? Naruto says that she saved him, meaning he did care about it. Fuck off, you're not arguing in good faith and you don't have a point.

>>280569464
she's just so fucking cute
would do unspeakable things to her
>>280569518
Zoomers, man

>>280569778
>He straight up calls back to it in the war arc and says that she saved him
Naruto already thought Hinata was strong beforehand, he even counted the proud failure speech as her saving him.
>Whether or not it had an effect changes nothing
Hinata doesn't even the courage to ask Naruto out or advance their relationship after the war, so much for courage.

>>280569860
That wasn't me.

>>280569874
>Naruto already thought Hinata was strong beforehand, he even counted the proud failure speech as her saving him.
You are moving the goalposts because you are intellectually dishonest. You said Naruto didn't care about it. That is objectively wrong. Fuck off.
>Hinata doesn't even the courage to ask Naruto out or advance their relationship after the war, so much for courage.
You simply cannot get around the fact that she was courageous in that moment. Fuck off. You lost and now you're trying to change the argument. It's not going to work.

how anyone respects sakura for straight up lying to naruto's face about loving him I'll never know a lie so blatant naruto saw through it immediately

>>280569926
>You said Naruto didn't care about it
He didn't care in the sense that his opinion on her didn't change, he already thought she was strong and already thought of her as a savior.
Nothing changed.
>You simply cannot get around the fact that she was courageous in that moment.
Oh, so now it's can't complain about inconsistencies in the story?

>>280570034
*i can't
Fucking autocorrect.

temari is the only good female

>>280570034
>He didn't care in the sense that his opinion on her didn't change
Goalpost moved. Fuck off.
>Oh, so now it's can't complain about inconsistencies in the story?
The entire point of this argument is whether or not the reasons I gave for the confession being good are valid. This includes whether or not Hinata was courageous. She was. Now you're trying to change the argument. Fuck off.

>>280570107
Her and Tsunade are the only competently written female characters in this series.

>>280570122
>Goalpost moved
You not understanding what i meant is not moving the goalpost.
>This includes whether or not Hinata was courageous
She was effectively as courageous as she was in part 1.

>>280570280
>You not understanding what i meant is not moving the goalpost.
You are arguing a different thing. That is moving the goalposts. Fuck off.
>She was effectively as courageous as she was in part 1.
By doing something she was incapable of doing in part 1? Fuck off.

>>280570308
>You are arguing a different thing
I specifically said he didn't care because their relationship didn't change.
>By doing something she was incapable of doing in part 1?
She was willing to die to look cool infront of him, she'd die to save him.

>>280570192
>Her and Tsunade are the only competently written female characters in this series.
There's also Chiyo and Sasori arc Sakura.

>>280569953
she should have fainted and call for help

>>280554569
Nope

>>280570428
>I specifically said he didn't care
You said he didn't care. He did. Whether or not the relationship changed is a matter of interpretation and has no bearing on him caring. Fuck off.
>She was willing to die to look cool infront of him, she'd die to save him.
She didn't think she was going to die against Neji. Also we were talking about her confession, which she wasn't able to do in part 1. Stop changing the argument and fuck off.

>>280570107
she's up there, real shame she wasn't present during de hidan & kakuzu arc

>>280570550
>You said he didn't care
Because his opinion on her didn't change, which is the case.
>She didn't think she was going to die against Neji
She literally got hit in the heart.
>Also we were talking about her confession, which she wasn't able to do in part 1.
She never had the opportunity to do so there.

>>280570633
>Because his opinion on her didn't change
So because he thought well of her before and thought well of her after means he didn't care? What? You're so lost in the sauce of salvaging your precious feelings over being BTFO you can't even think coherently. Fuck off.
>She literally got hit in the heart.
God, why are you so stupid? She didn't THINK she would die. And Neji wasn't the guy who just obliterated the village and defeated Naruto. Fuck off.
>She never had the opportunity to do so there.
What?? She could've done so at literally any point. Fuck OFF.

>>280570700
>So because he thought well of her before and thought well of her after means he didn't care?
Yes, it didn't change his feeling on her at all.
>She didn't THINK she would die.
So Hinata had that much trust on the medics there for no reason?
>She could've done so at literally any point
Hinata and Naruto didn't even become friends until the end of part 1.

>>280570825
>Yes, it didn't change his feeling on her at all.
This is completely irrelevant to him not caring.
>A likes B
>B saves A's life
>A still likes B
>this means A didn't care somehow
How can you be so stupid?
>So Hinata had that much trust on the medics there for no reason?
Yes? Why wouldn't she?
>Hinata and Naruto didn't even become friends until the end of part 1.
Naruto clearly cared for her from her fight with Neji on, you illiterate fuckstain.

Take a step back and look at yourself. Look at the shit you are writing. You are backed into a corner by the cold hard facts of my argument and you can't do anything about it so you're twisting yourself into knots trying to save yourself. It's not working. You're just making yourself look more ridiculous.

>>280570700
You say that like Hinata didn't confess specifically because she thought they all could die there.

>>280570280
Stop being fucking retarded and comparing fighting an asshole like Neji is like throwing your life at the god who killed thousands 5 minutes ago

>>280570926
That was in reference to Neji, not Pain.

maybe the pain arc actually sucked dick when you take off the nostalgia goggles

>>280571055
Nah it's pretty strong and held up during the 2020 storydump, people loved it.

>>280570925
>How can you be so stupid?
For all intents and purpose, it didn't change their dynamics or relationship, he cares about Hinata saving him as much as he cares about Sakura saving him from getting beheaded.
>Yes? Why wouldn't she?
She literally doesn't know them and is fully aware about how dangerous Neji and the jyuuken are.
>Naruto clearly cared for her from her fight with Neji on, you illiterate fuckstain.
He still did not see her as a friend.

>>280570947
What difference does it make if you get killed by the cartel, a polar bear or a nuke? You're still more than likely going to die.

>>280571149
Neji killing her wasn't expected, she was fighting in a tournament. You can die from boxing with someone too aggressive if things go bad, you WILL die if you go fight a cartel

>>280571108
>For all intents and purpose, it didn't change their dynamics or relationship
So fucking what??? This is completely irrelevant.
>he cares about Hinata saving him as much as he cares about Sakura saving him from getting beheaded.
He straight up calls back to it in the war arc. He never did that for Sakura. God you're SO fucking disingenuous..
>She literally doesn't know them and s fully aware about how dangerous Neji and the jyuuken are.
This is just you making shit up now. Refer to this poster: >>280570947
>He still did not see her as a friend.
Oh yeah because swearing an oath on her blood and telling her he really likes her means she's not a friend. Fucking kill yourself.

>>280571055
Most of Naruto sucks in hindsight tbqhwyf

>>280571196
I'm starting to think that poster is the same guy who thinks Neji can only see 50 meters away because of one throwaway line, same kind of autistim

>>280571184
The moment she was caughting blood and Neji didn't intend to stop should have been enough of an indicador her life wasn't safe.

Is there a point to these arguments? Do you guys come here to actually have a discussion and change your opinion on these topics or is it all just throwing shit at each other?

>>280571198
your words cut deep
deeper than any blade

>>280571266
Tons of genins were wounded during their fights and Neji was pretty much just telling her to give up. NOBODY would read this fight as "Hinata kills herself", it's "Hinata shows her guts", Neji going for a potential kill shot at the end gets the match stopped instantly, meanwhile Pain WILL kill her and there's no doubt about this you retard

>>280571196
>He never did that for Sakura.
Because Sakura never doubted her strength infront of him.
>This is just you making shit up now.
She literally doesn't know those medics but knows Neji.
>Oh yeah because swearing an oath on her blood and telling her he really likes her means she's not a friend. Fucking kill yourself.
We literally see a vision of all of Naruto's friends in that arc and Hinata wasn't included.
>>280571225
That's a different guy.

>>280571306
Nagato literally won and killed everyone, even Naruto

>>280571306
You realize that the damage already delt to her was enough to kill her and WOULD HAVE if not for Kabuto.

>>280571457
lol, dumbass

>>280571457
No, she went to a hospital and she was treated just fine. It was a fucking match. If someone was asking Hinata "are you dying here for this match?" she wouldn't say "yes" because that's not what they're doing here. Meanwhile she IS killing herself by throwing herself at a god. Stop being autistic for even a second you goddamn retard

>>280571396
>Because Sakura never doubted her strength infront of him.
So fucking what?
>She literally doesn't know those medics but knows Neji.
You're just making shit up about Hinata's thoughts.
>We literally see a vision of all of Naruto's friends in that arc and Hinata wasn't included.
Yeah bro she's the first thing he thinks about when he wins because he just doesn't give a shit. Fuck OFF.

>>280571488
>>280571509
I don't think you guys understand how fucking dangerous having a heart attack is or how having that wound + other is fucking fatal.

>>280571586
>bringing real world biology into shonen
You lost.

>>280571561
naruto and hinata were both cheated
of each other and being competent

>>280571586
You are too autistic to understand TONE and MEANING of a fucking comic book for kids

>supposedly hits hinata's heart
>begins coughing blood
kishi failed anatomy

>>280571561
So you're just gonna ignore Kishimoto's intention?
He befriended hinata along side the others, him caring about her is him being kind and plants a seed of an actual bond but that doesn't mean they were really friend at that point.

>>280547085 (OP)
I'd say no, a bunch of the arc is pointless fighting for characters

>>280571594
>>280571655
Dan quite literally died to a wounded kidney while having Tsunade herself trying to heal him, but sure, Hinata had no chance of dying there.

>>280571880
That's not the point you autistic simpleton. Kishimoto didn't present this match as a suicide, in fact the moment the adults perceived killing intent they stopped it. That's as far removed as possible from throwing yourself at a god with a killcount in the thousands

>>280572098
He did.

>>280571055
it's not nostalgia goggles, some people are just genuinely retarded

>>280571294
I think it's just autism simulator and a lot of people here are probably just rehearsing arguments they had on actual forums they got kicked out of, especially factoring in how long Naruto was soft-banned on /a/

>>280555790
A lot of them act like cunts for comedic purposes (banter) but then that carries over to their real personality. Probably just unfinished characterisation

If the Uchiha crisis would have been averted and Orochimaru stole the body of some random Uchiha how would the Konaha crush go

>>280573071
What in the ESL

>>280572098
Right before the fight starts we are told how dangerous the gentle fist is then have Hinata get hit and bleed from multiple important organs that would've killed anyone otherwise + Sakura straight up saying she could die if the fight kept going.
I don't think it could've been more clearer that Hinata could've died besides Kishimoto straight spelling it out.

Whatever happened to Sasukejeet? The threads have actually gone back to how comfy they were the first few days after the site came back.

>>280575966
He had gotten banned, but i assume the reason he hasn't shown up is due to him realizing nobody was gonna remember his persona once he was gone like in the 10 days post hack.

>>280575966
I think a mod over at /v/ might have banned him, since he posted a lot in that one thread over there and I don't think he's posted since.

>>280576537
holy based /v/ mods

>>280571184
Hiashi would brain jelly Nejis ass if he killed Hinata

>>280575966
>comfy
There's nothing really comfy about these threads, unless you're a retard i guess

>>280576587
Hiashi didn't care about Hinata at that point.

>>280576537
Why do we have so many /v/ faggots here?

>>280576815
not this "retcon" horse shit

>>280547085 (OP)
it was fun for what it was
maybe Sasuke's new team mates in the timeskip should've just been these dudes who survives, or at least one or two of them anyway.

>>280577131
Retcon? Hiashi straight up says he doesn't care in that very arc.

>>280576939
Surely you understand why there might be an overlap between anime and video game fans.

>>280564718
she barely appears after that, this is the personality you're given for her

>>280577131
Crazy that people still struggle to admit that Kishi just made most of this story up as he went along and that it doesn't hold up if scrutinised so many years later. You can enjoy Naruto while acknowledging that.

>>280577326
Nope. Stay in your containment board,
filthy /v/ faggot. Your kind has proven to be the most cancerous on this site. Just look at the no-life-sauskefaggot

>>280577368
that is every goddamn shounen mangaka and i don't see any retards screaming RETCON RETCIN RETCON

BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT A RETCON IS YOU DIPSHIT

>>280577438
>every goddamn shounen mangaka
Not reallt

>>280577495
One Piece, Fairy Tail, Dragon Ball Z, Demon Slayer, Bleach, Yu Yu Hakusho, Hunter X Hunter, Tokyo Ghoul and many many others.
nost manga have pilot chapters unrelated to what they actually become, you fucking imbecile

>>280577589
>this quick to anger
>incapable of understanding what a retconn is
Lol. Lmao even.

>>280577438
how many are discussed at length years later
with Dragonball everyone acknowledges that Toyirama made shit up as he went along

>>280577438
Hiashi not caring about Hinata isn't a retcon.

>>280577994
It's really stupid to have females become Ninja in a combat role sense. Unless they're strictly used for recon purposes or have some busted kekkei genkai, it's pointless to have them train to be combatants

>>280578167
Chakra makes bone and muscle estructure completely relevant.

>>280578233
>my ass: the source

>>280578233
*irrelevant
>>280578295
Part 1 Sasuke could literally kill a giant bear with a kick.

>>280578415
>Part 1 Sasuke could literally kill a giant bear with a kick
That's a reconn

>>280578630
He was also able to jump multiple meters away and break rocks.

>>280578692
That's pretty standard for any of the male characters

>>280578722
Sakura can literally do the same, so can Hinata.

>>280578722
Point is that civilians can't do that shit, chakra invalidates physical attributes.

>>280579191
>so can Hinata
Good bait
>Point is that civilians can't do that shit
Proof?

>>280579269
Hinata's chakra control is better than Sakura's

>>280579269
Literally in the pain arc she is shown making a crater in the floor.
Do you even follow this manga?

>>280549062
Do you think that's the size of the juubi laying down? Because the Juubi (humanoid form) is 1km tall.

>>280579931
>doubling down on your shit bait
Lol
>>280579981
>samefagging
Lmao

>>280579931
>Hinata's chakra control is better than Sakura's
Where was that stated?

>>280580398
In my head

>>280580041
That's not even me.

>>280578167
The whole point of kunuoichi is infiltration and information gathering so yeah they do have their niche in the ninja world.

>>280580771
Learn to read a post. Dumbass.

>>280580398
Lion Fist requires perfect control

>>280580879
Source?

>>280580907
fourth databook

>>280581069
Lmao. So you have nothing?

>>280581069
>databookshit

>>280581126
>>280581127
cope and seethe, sakurafags

>>280581161
Still waiting for a source
Also
>muh waifuwars
What a faggot lmao

>>280579269
>>280580041
Literally 10 seconds Google search.

>>280581355
>takes over an hour to respond
>posts a random panel thinking it proves anything
Lol

>>280581489
It literally proves that she can make a crater like i claimed?
I'm not the same guy who claimed she surpassed Sakura, and I was posting in the daily thread.

>>280582199
>I was necro-bumping in the daily thread
ftfy