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Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba – Infinity Castle Arc
Chapter One: Akaza’s Return
Box Office Flash Report
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【Surpasses 10 billion yen in just 16 hours】
It’s certain to exceed the opening day record of *Demon Slayer: Mugen Train*’s 12.6 billion yen by the end of today! It’s on track to become the No.1 opening performance in movie history.
Two fucking months to go I guess.
I care and am going to watch it
Nope. It's 1 billion yen in 16 hours, because 1.3M+ people bought first-day tickets, and the average price of a ticket is ¥2000 yen. The Japanese even corrected the guy whose source you’re using, lol.
Anyone know where I can buy this artbook?
>>280684767 (OP)>Prior to its release in Japan, the film set monthly sales records for advance tickets sold for two consecutive months in September and October 2020.[31] Upon release, it set several box office records including highest opening weekend gross (¥4.6 billion, $44 million)Retard even your Mugen Train data is incorrect
>>280684767 (OP)>10 billion yenbit too much
>>280684767 (OP)Holy shit. You think the final movie could surpass this?
>>280684767 (OP)Two months for the rest of the world to see it is bullshit man.
There is something amazing about having been in the spoiler threads from day one and now getting here. All the retarded shitposting spam couldn't stop this juggernaut
>>280684992Panties is not real
It's fake Chinese version
>What's your most memorable moment when winning the award
In my award winning work, I tried to depict the theme of traditional Japanese clothes, vampires, a strong human that even the vampires fear, and someone who works hard and doesn't let their handicap show. The work is far from perfect. After winning the award, when I work on my one-shots and series, I always thought about wanting to payback those who evaluated my work at that time.
>Please give a message to newcomers who are aiming for Jump New World award
Whether you're drawing a storyboard or manuscript, try to finish it as a whole first before comprehensively evaluating the work overall. You'll learn many things that will help you improve. If you are stuck and stop half way through, try to think carefully what's the cause (for example, is it the character, structure, or the setting that makes the story difficult to develop).
>Editorial comment on "Kagarigari"
The author has a unique sense that standout, but lack enough drawing power to express it. Additionally, the author needs a structure that helps the readers emotionally connect to the characters.
https://www.jump-mangasho.com/sinsekai_100gotoge
>>280685918>Whether you're drawing a storyboard or manuscript, try to finish it as a whole first before comprehensively evaluating the work overall. You'll learn many things that will help you improve. If you are stuck and stop half way through, try to think carefully what's the cause (for example, is it the character, structure, or the setting that makes the story difficult to develop).Take notes Hori
>>280685918>Whether you're drawing a storyboard or manuscript, try to finish it as a whole first before comprehensively evaluating the work overall.Evidently, he didn't take his own advice when his manga is poorly written and his fights are very, very badly drawn and reads like a PowerPoint with all these exposition dumps.
>>280685941More like gege
>oh I'm tired>pls nobara, finish this
>Obanai and Mitsuri hold hands while falling
CUTE CUTE CUTE
Jeremy is gonna kill xerself.
>>280688385How much did it make total? Just to laugh at Jimbo I mean.
>>280688485https://x.com/franspeech/status/1946218917405323510?s=46
>>280688485At it's current pace compared to Mugen train it's likely to surpass $1 billion globally
>>280688793Only remotely possible if it gets a timely release in China.
>>280684897I prefer going in dry
Lisa and Aimers songs in any moment now.
Out
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=rspzC40lGVk
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=XMCxgVHD0Iw
>1. "Demon Slayer: Mugen Castle Arc" 1.8 billion
>2. "Demon Slayer: Mugen Train Arc" 1.27 billion
>3. "ONE PIECE FILM RED" 1.23 billion
>4. "Jujutsu Kaisen 0" 1.07 billion
>5. "Detective Conan: Afterimage of the One-Eyed Man" 1.05 billion
>6. "Detective Conan: The Million Dollar Five-Point Star" 960 million
Don't let HIM see this. Also make sure HE sees this.
>>280689041I thought they were going to be for OP&ED but they are just for the Akaza fight.
>>2806890416:24 for LiSa song, crazy
>>280688385>>280688719Lmao. You posted a tweet that literally says:
"The devaluation of the yen against the dollar dims the international shine of this mega-success."
Which is exactly what I've been hammering for two straight weeks. So thank you for the self-own and backing me up. Maybe try reading next time before you cheerlead yourself off a cliff like a retard.
Second, this part?
>>280688793>At its current pace compared to Mugen Train it’s likely to surpass $1 billion globallyIs actual unfiltered brainrot. Mugen Train did $504M worldwide. The idea that Infinity Castle , a film with no China release, weaker overseas legs, a depreciated currency, and no pandemic vacuum is going to double that and hit $1B is so delusional I wouldn't even say it sarcastically on this Chinese chalkboard forum. Let's do math (again) since clearly nobody in your camp passed middle school:
>Domestic (Japan): Let’s say it reaches ¥20B (generous). That's ~$125M USD at today's rate>Overseas: Maybe, maybe, it scrapes together $60-70M more across Korea, SEA, Taiwan, and some scraps in the USTotal? Best-case $185–200M.
You're not hitting a billion. You’re not hitting Mugen Train’s $370M from Japan. You're not even hitting its global $504M. You're screaming "W!" because it broke a Day 1 record with holiday inflation, IMAX saturation, and merch bundles and you're completely ignoring the drop-off that’s about to body this movie in Week 2. Enjoy your opening day fireworks. Just don't look too closely at the currency conversion, the long tail box office, or the absolute bloodbath of summer competition that’s about to kneecap this thing.
Also, maybe stop posting tweets that support my argument like they're dunks. You're self-owning harder than Netflix stock in 2022.
It'll make more monkey upfront due to hype. Will have worse legs with normies because post covid and interest has been lost.
>>280688844Did the Mugen Train get a chinese release back then? I know Kimetsu needs plenty of digital censoring to air in China, Tanjiro's earrings are edited, females showing too much skin have 4kids levels of digital clothes being added, etc. Seems like a really tough job to make it into theaters.
one billy dollars incoming
>>280689220>Did the Mugen Train get a chinese release back then?Nope, never did and Infinity Castle never will thus its box office is capped out lmao.
>>280689342Ok then, making a billie seems out of reach without China, can only hope to do similar numbers to Mugen Train at the end of its run.
>>280689342I just remember that China wiped out like a billion dollars of various foreign movie sales in 2020 because the shitty Monster Hunter movie made a pun about Chinese and knees
>>280689415>can only hope to do similar numbers to Mugen Train at the end of its run.>*blocks your path*It made $560M+ in just two weeks BTW
>>280690039Are those people rowing away from a trex? Seems like they’re pretty cooked
>>280690039I genuinely don't understand what's up with people and dinosaurs. The first movie of the christ Pratt trilogy was kino but the rest were incredibly underwhelming. From what I heard this one is beyond shit yet still prints money. Does humanity has such a big dinosaur boner?
>>280689157Feels like your analyses underrate how well it’ll do outside of Japan and the effect of its word of mouth and reviews. Going to the movies nowadays is less about seeing whatever’s good and more about seeing whatever is an “event” whose experience cant be replicated well on a computer screen, and DS is a perfect example of that for western anime fans, even for all the complaints that the story is mid
>>280690964His analysis basically says that because the recaps do what they do, the movie will do the same.
Abd he won't listen.
I haven't watch any movie in theater since 2022. Maybe I will go see this film if it come out in my country
Can;t believed people convinced themselves that a fucking Superman movie is going to affect this show in Japan.
>>280691431One delusional guy isn't "people"
>>280691403If your country has a theater chain like Cinemark or a similar franchise it is likely coming out there, even if in limited screenings.
>>280691431that was just the typical meltdown by our resident schizo
hence mods banning him repeatedly
>>280691451Nah some people discredit Mugen Train's run because it got no "competition" from hollywood movies, when nips these days has really no interest with other media except K-pop and whatever Tom Cruise film.
>>280691672It's fucking weird how much some people need to have their head canon that this shit isn't popular. For the longest time they claimed it wasn't popular outside of Japan
turns out 25% of it's sales were non nips
Love KnY
Love Superman
Like JJK
Meh on CSM
Dislike MHA
Simple as
>>280691882What are you thoughts on dinosaurs?
>>280691965Love them but I'm mad that the latest JP movie does the hybrid shit again. Literally the coolest looking T. rex in the whole series and it gets one (1 (uno)) scene
>>280691782>it wasn't popular outside of JapanI can see where some people(probably from the west) saying this when S1 and Mugen train aired, but even then the whole Asia was as obsessed with it.
>>280691431>"James Gunn’s Superman Soars In US But Gets Crushed By Demon Slayer In Japan">"Superman scores big in the US, but Japanese audiences are all in on Demon Slayer’s latest release."https://www.koimoi.com/box-office/james-gunns-superman-soars-in-us-but-gets-crushed-by-demon-slayer-in-japan/
Was there any doubt?
>>280692101>giving more screens to the biggest japanese movie of the year... BAD somehow
>>280692101That movie can't even outgross
Kokuho in it's sixth week, not that there's anything wrong with it, Kokuho is good and going to be the first L.A film to earn 10b in 22 years in Japan.
douma vs shinobu full fight is 22mins and has been leaked
also kanao finding her
need the pic from shinobu saying giyuu is ugly and gay
>>280691782I really think that boxed set is where they got a ton of sales. Tons of upper middle class kids asked for that and their parents were like well it's better than a videogame. Compared to the usual amerifat thing of buying one fifteen dollar volume 1 of a manga then never touching the rest of it it's a much better strategy to worming print comics back into the US.
>>280692556koku scene too
>>280689157Shut up faggot.
You went from pretending Mugen Train was anomaly and Demon Slayer's hype is diminishing to Infinity Castle having more admissions does not matter because it will not due to conversion rates.
You are grasping for any sort of L for Demon Slayer but you will ultimately fail and catch the L yourself.
Next you are gonna pretend Demon Slayer is no longer popular because it could not beat Ne Zha 2.
Everybody can see your fallacious and the goalpost you keep moving. You are a clown to everyone who reads your messages.
>NOZOMU ABE 1 minute cut of Akaza has 5000 drawings
>>280692669>Next you are gonna pretend Demon Slayer is no longer popular because it could not beat Ne Zha 2.This will 100% happen in these threads lmao. God that movie is fucking forgettable.
>>280692693>these movies are just three episodes stitched together!>milking!They are so worth it, you don't get stuff like this on tv
>>280692556>douma vs shinobu full fight is 22mins and has been leakedwhat are they doing for 2 hours and 10 mins? did they seriously extend zenitsu shit to 40+ mins while kneecapping shinbou?
>>280692693So is the social media thing where they're saying ufotable got a bunch of animation all-stars to do cuts correct? Maybe Sony actually gave them an extra couple of million for production after making a half a billion dollars.
I must be strong. I mustn't watch the leaks. I mustn't.
>>280692803Give 90 minutes to Akaza, what else.
Akaza death scene is on twitter
>>280692757>you don't get stuff like this on tvYeah because these big shot animators has no constraint and deadline when it comes to drawing for a movie, much for a series like Kimetsu.
>>280692803Zenitsu fight is like 15 min
Akaza fight is long and have a whole flashback
>>280692907so almost two hours for akaza? way too long
>>280692928It's
>pillars doing stuff >zenitsu >shinobu
>all the Akaza stuff There's A TON of content to cover there
>>280692829>Maybe Sony actually gave them an extra couple of million for production after making a half a billion dollars.They are in production committee themselves.
Ufotable must be making big bucks out of this
>all ufotable cafes are busy
>their theaters are also busy
no longer need to tax evade for at least 40 years
>>280692693I'm going for the IMAX seat
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>>280692928The beggining of kanao fight happens too
Idk why no one talks about that
>they extended the whole fights to all the caste structure instead of being one or 2 rooms thing like in the manga
Good or bad?
>>280693044>The beggining of kanao fight happens too>Idk why no one talks about thatBecause the best part of the Kanao fight is Inosuke
the animation and colors look way higher quality than anything ufo did before even though im watching leaks
maybe its the screen idk
>Memon Slopper
When's the Tenkaichi: Nihon anime
>>280684767 (OP)Is there a title with less deserved success than this? It's sad to see such a mediocre story, full of cheap tricks, break so many records.
It's legacy is exclusively commercial.
>>280693017I think that guy got a better return on the money than the feds would have
>>280693140your favorite manga / anime
>>280693121Good idea? It'd look way too samey otherwise.
Douma can't move from his room and koku will probably stay in his too because of the PILLARS.
mfw
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>>280693121>Infinity Castle>only use like 4 rooms for 4 fights
>>280693140Please get your own opinion instead of parroting twitter posts
>>280693121Bad for trying to keep the humans kinda human but good for the spectacle. To be honest I disliked that at first when they over did it with Uzui and then that Rengoku original but at this point, yeah why not?
>>280693121It makes it less credible that the Ubayashikis are commanding anything when all the pillars are warp skipping around a 50 mile section of Blame! superstructure
Like they did a silly thing in RLD where Zenitsu had to be doing his warp slash to kill Daki for 15 minutes while Tengen was fighting.
But in the end it's just a show, relax
I can see the next movie ending all three um fights, but i can't see the finale adapting 26 chapters when half of them have dialogue + epilogue
>>280693181>>280693199What are the artistic merits of Demon Slayer?
>>280693270Being far more artistic than your favorite manga / anime
>>280693259If the last movie is a 3 hrs movie it might actually be possible
Scene I'm most hyped to see is Giyuu tearing up at Tanjirou's opening slashes against Akaza
>>280693270Ok answer this
Is DS use cheap tricks as you say why is no one else able to do it?
>>280684767 (OP)>three movies (presumably released over the course of three years)>and apparently there is going to be another arc after the movie before all this Kimetsushit actually ends>that is of course assuming that they don't keep milking this shit with spin-offs, prequels or maybe even a sequel
Apparently its rumored that the production cost of the entire trilogy is 7 billion yen. 47 million USD.
so this movie has a budget of ~16M. They'll have an insane ROI
>>280693259I think they'll cut movie 3 when they return to their home and pray over the graves of the family. Then they'll do a TV special of the volume ending and epiologue.
>>280693363>with spin-offs, prequels or maybe even a sequelIt's been 6 years and there's still nothing.
>>280684767 (OP)I don't care about this
Trash that has the best animation in the world is still trash.
>>280689041kind of disappointed in the first one but lisa's is alright
>>280693445keep posting more OP posts about how demon slayer is trash and how you hate it.
Surely that'll stop its sales and its popularity KEK
So
Movie 2: End of Douma, UM1 fight, a bit of UM 4
Movie 3: End of UM4 and Muzan
>>280693363This story is so airtight in the sense everything that could be explored is over, that you can't truly make more of it.
A prequel wouldn't matter when we know about Yoriichi. A sequel can't be possible when the author killed the thing that created Muzan. The author would have to become the mother of all hacks to continue this somehow.
>>280693582Didn't stop Toriyama
>>280693582>The author would have to become the mother of all hacks to continue this somehow.DBS and boruto already figured this out
Aliens.
or in DS case another country or whatever
you have so many ways to milk it. The author likely refused though considering we didn't see any milking compared to naruto
>>280690964No. I didn’t underrate anything, I modeled it based on actual market behavior and historical precedent. You're just "feeling" things because you want them to be true, which is how 5-year-olds process box office trends. You act like word of mouth and event cinema are new. "People want to see movies that feel like events!" Yes, and that's been true since Star Wars in 1977. It also doesn’t change:
>The absence of a China release>The collapsed yen dragging down WW gross>The glut of summer blockbusters competing for real estate>And the fact that anime doesn't have a deep enough global base to scale past $1B without miraclesMugen Train hit $504M at the absolute best possible moment in moviegoing history for a local product. Infinity Castle is not in that moment. It's running in a crowded field, on a weakening currency, in a market no longer deprived of blockbusters. Your "feelings" won’t print another $800M.
>>280693785>Your "feelings" won’t print another $800M.Who the fuck is saying that it'll do one billion? You legitimately raise points as if copypasting answers from different conversations (which you probably are).
>>280693785even if it makes just 200m. That's insane return on investment and among the top anime films. Also 20B in Japan is top 8 of all time. even 10B would make it within top 25-30.
The manga is 7th in all time and the highest per volume. Merch is selling like hotcakes. All of this essays you post, won't change a single thing. Just like how they didn't the past months and years.
>>280689041What did they do to Aimer, fuck. Some parts are ok but I expected something better.
I really don't understand why this dude wastes his time doing this all day every single day.
He's clearly not enjoying his copes getting BTFO either. Literally brings zero benefit and only regret to spend your time seething like this
>>280692669No, retard. Not pretending. Stated outright, so keep your mouth shut. And it is an anomaly. Mugen Train was a perfect storm:
>No competition>Theater monopolization>Word of mouth feeding on a content drought>A still-locked-down global industry>A pandemic that amplified demand for escapismYou cannot replicate that environment. Not even if you slap a billion yen in IMAX tickets onto Day 1.
>Infinity Castle having more admissions does not matter because it will not due to conversion rates!No, I said it matters less internationally, because you can't brag about admissions when the currency those admissions are priced in is in the toilet. That's not a goalpost move, it's just your retarded underage brain struggling to process the part where ¥1 billion today = way less in real value than in 2020.
>N-Next you are gonna pretend Demon Slayer is no longer popularNobody said it wasn't popular. It's clearly a megahit in Japan. I just can't distinguish between being popular and having long-term legs and economic dominance. That's your problem, you think breaking a single-day record means the movie is immortal.No one talks about Mugen Train anymore for a reason except for underage faggots who make up the vast majority of this poorly written manga made for 10-year-old's fanbase and still clinging to his 15 minutes of fame. Spirited Away is still talked about, so is Your Name. They actually left an impact. They're the only two anime films that made it to the Top 100 Greatest Movies of the 21st Centuryand highly regarded by film veterans. Mugen Train tried to submit itself to the Academy Awaerds and got laughed out of the building.
>TL;DR?Infinity Castle is a financial success. But not Mugen Train 2.
No China, weak yen, crowded market. The ceiling is real.
$1B global is fantasy pulled out of someone's colon.
More admissions =/= more dollars when ticket prices are inflated and currency is devalued.
Opening day =/= box office dominance. Just ask The Flash.
>>280693999It's an edging song with no true release
>>280694055>I'm not obsessed>doing this stuff for at least 12 hours a day for two weeks is normal and just my hobby>YOU are obsessedHe's not mentally ok.
that aimer song is ASS, it's giving me flashbacks to when she covered beyonce songs and those were terrible
>>280693270Good use of silhouette
>>280693785Who is arguing it'll do 800M? Sure, Japan simply doesn't have enough people in it to remake those absolute world breaker numbers outside of Covid. It doesn't change the fact that this is going to be a generation-defining success of a movie in its primary target market.
It's about RoI. This isn't Superman, which is doing good numbers domestically but is ultimately going to be seen as a lukewarm success due to the fact that its budget demands a worldwide hit.
>>280694078>$1B global is fantasy pulled out of someone's colon.Yeah, yours, considering you brought it up.
>More admissions =/= more dollarsBut more admissions=more people are seeing it=more popularity
Moving the goalposts to making "less money" because its dollar conversion rate is shit now is retarded, because it'd be pulling the same results even if it was the same as when mt released.
>>280693270Kokushibo's whole character
>>280693270https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/253314102
here's some thread I remember that had some good discussion about KnY's writing. I also liked reply 253341965
>>280693785I think it'll do more than $200M but less than $1B. I'm just saying that almost all of your discussion points are about how people are overestimating how well it'll do in Japan, stuff like competing against JW or them cramming theatres in opening week or the weak yen, etc., but you just sorta state that it'll make next to nothing outside of Japan without any extra reasoning. If I'm wrong idrc though as long as I like the movie, which it seems like I will based on twitter reviews
Entire movie already leaked lol
>>280694279Holy shit
>>253341965 was mine, I should reread KnS2
>>280694279>you just sorta state that it'll make next to nothing outside of Japan without any extra reasoning.His reasoning is that the recaps weren't international smash hits (still did better than stuff like mha's last original movie, for example)
>>280694055He'll continue to seethe until he believes his own bullshit about MHA being more popular than kny
remember this post ?
The nips losing interest on the series and fatigue are probably among the funniest cope I've ever read, should known that Japan of all country has a numerous series/franchise that get annual movie every year.
>>280693270Nothing. It's fast food anime. There's a reason why Spirited Away and Your Name made it to the list of Top 100 Greatest Movies of the 21st Century while Mugen Train didn't make it to the cut. Avengers made it to the cut because it left an impact (for better or worse), so did Spider-Verse that pushed 3D CGI animation to the max. Godzilla Minus One made it too and a Korean drama is at the top so clearly, they have no bias for Asian media. Demon Slayed just isn't art and never will be: it's a cheeseburger anime.
>>280694442Why did no dragon ball or mha movie make it there then?
>>280694403>kimetsu was running laps around MHA all along
>>280694474Yep, at least kny author made it to the times
>>280694078>You cannot replicate that environment. Not even if you slap a billion yen in IMAX tickets onto Day 1.Do you know theaters had pandemic restrictions? forcing them to have less seats available per showing?
>because you can't brag about admissions when the currency those admissions are priced in is in the toilet. I care about admissions because it reflects the number of moviegoers
>That's not a goalpost moveNo, you're moving the goalpost, you were originally claiming Kimetsu no Yaiba was no longer as popular as it used to be. Turns out there are more Kimetsu no Yaiba fans showing up on opening day than in 2020.
>Nobody said it wasn't popular. It's clearly a megahit in Japan. I just can't distinguish between being popular and having long-term legs and economic dominance. It has economic dominance over your favorite shitty manga, okay.
>$1B global is fantasy pulled out of someone's colon.You keep bringing up that number, almost like it will be your next cope once Infinity Castle does as well as Mugen Train.
Try something else, retard.
Ufo just finds a way to make Shinobu a little prettier each time she's on screen
>J talking about art when he dick sucks dragon ball , mha , op , nart etc
>actually defends never ending slop and shits on SNK
kek . Kimetsu is far more artistic than all of the slop you gurgle
>>280694474They were smart enough to stay in their lane unlike Demon Slayer that wants to join the big leagues, hence why Aniplex tried to submit Mugen Train into the building but were immediately rejected and laughed out of the building.
>>280694584So you agree dragon ball , one piece, my hero academia, naruto are all also cheeseburger slop?
yes or no?
>>280694619Yes. They're all slop too. But they all have redeeming qualities unlike Demon Slayer. Dragon Ball has good art and good choreography, something Demon Slayer don't have. One Piece has the worldbuilding, something Demon Slayer don't have. My Hero Academia has gold art and god-tier porn, something Demon Slayer don't have. And Naruto is the king of slops, it's the most popular anime in the world bar none.
>>280694697Why are you so proud of eating slop and defending it so hard you spend so much time on it? do you also defend mcdonalds this much whenever someone says they don't like it and prefer resturant x?
Cant wait for September so we can talk about something other than sales faggotry and shitty camrips.
>>280694697>stops using chat>English skills instantly tank Always funny to see.
>>280694697>Yes. They're all slop too. But LOL
>no activity for minutes
Readying another barrage.
>>280694697Demon Slayer shows genuine familial bonds which your zog manga will never display positively.
This is why it is popular in Japan and this is also why your pozzed mind fails appreciate it.
>>280693852Wrong. Literally in the post in this very thread:
>At its current pace it's likely to surpass $1 billion globally.You only backpedaled after I mocked it into the dirt. This is textbook cope cleanup. I'm not going to let you slither out. Own up or shut up.
>>280693951Lmao. This is rich coming from people who were screaming "it's gonna beat Mugen Train!" 48 hours ago. You people pivoted so hard, you've dislocated both your shoulders. Yes, ¥20B is a strong result domestically. Yes, $180-200M global is a solid anime film performance But you're acting like this was always your line. No, chief. You don't get to lower the bar mid-run and then brag about clearing it. This is like someone saying you're going to the Olympics and then calling it a win because you placed top 25 in a regional qualifier.
>>280694055Funny words coming from the faggot who's been:
>Quoting me>Stalking my posts>Screenshotting my replies across platforms>Writing walls of text about my postsAnd now suddenly it’s:
>Why are you so obsessed?Nah, brat. You're a one-man archive of my existence. You're the Wikipedia editor for my takes, and you're mad that I'm still right.
>All of this essays you post, won't change a single thing.And yet you keep reading them. Every word. Every thread. Every time. Why? Because you know I'm right. They hurt and they sting your underage ego. I could post just:
>¥160 to the dollar. Still true.And it would set you off for 7 posts. I'm not trying to "change the market." I'm clapping back against delusional underage fans with logic (something you don't have) and that's exactly why it rattles you. You need this movie to be untouchable and all you showed me is that it's just strong, not historic and not god-tier. Just solid. And that's the real offense to your psyche.
>>280695175are you gonna adress this post
>>280694403anon?
what happened?
>>280695232It takes him 20 minutes to reply to a couple posts, ask yourself why.
>>280695327He doesn't try to refute that he went from
>KnY is not as popular as it used to beto
>Yen to US dollar conversion rate will cause it to make less money, while admission rates and popularity no longer matterabsolute kek
>>280695164>Demon Slayer shows genuine familial bondsIt doesn't, because Demon Slayer doesn't show you what it means to be a brother and sister and other aspects on what makes a sibling bond beyond just unconditional love, it just tells you and vibes around. Nezuko is such a non-character that you could replace her with a dogand Demon Slayer would be a touching story about a boy trying to save his dog. That's how irrelevant that glorified onahole is. I'd make a power move on you by name-dropping other manga that were more competently written than your poorly written children's comic starting with...
>FMAEd and Al is how you write siblings. They argue. They disagree. They support each other fiercely but aren't afraid to call each other out. Their bond is rooted in shared trauma, mutual responsibility, and guilt, not just "brotherly love." It's messy and grounded.
>Ousama RankingDaida and Bojji's relationship is not your typical sibling bond. There's resentment, jealousy, regret, and eventual growth. The manga actually gives both characters time to develop individually and together. It doesn't cheap out on forgiveness either; it earns it. Nezuko meanwhile gets written out of the story in favor of the glorified jobbers the Hashira.
>My GirlFocuses more on fatherhood, but the extended family and sibling-type dynamics are incredibly grounded. There's this unspoken sense of duty and unglamorous love that hits hard.
If your sibling character doesn't grow, struggle, lash out, forgive, regret, or actually affect the plot with agency, then you're just dressing up a plushie and calling it "bond." The author didn't have the emotional intelligence to write a sibling relationship beyond unconditional love and Nezuko isn't a character, she's a Tamagotchi that bites.
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>Vig's got an insane adaptation
>Black Clover anime coming back
>Demon Slayer trilogy becoming the best anime movies ever made
>Deku got the cuck ending
It genuinely, and I mean absolutely genuinely, could not have been a worse ending for this retard and it's so funny
>>280695457Also remember how he said Infinity castle won't do mugen train 3- day numbers?
>>>the film sold 3.42 million tickets and made $43.8M in 3 days.Which actually reinforces my point because that wouldn't happen now. Why? Because Infinity Castle:
>>280692693>1 minute of ultra IMAX quality sakuga of Akaza beating the shit out of TomiokaDeserved for being ugly and gay
>>280695457You see asking him to not move goalposts and be consistent with his arguments which is absolutely impossible.
>>280695525And soon KGB will come in with the steel chair
>>280695592absolutely lol
>>280695504>demon slayer doesn't show genuine familial bondsOut of all the years you've spent shitposting and being a general cancer on this board, that might your absolute worst take Jeremy
>>280695504Cope, cope, cope.
Keep your ass blasted, 99% of Japanese people disagree with you, and 99% of non-Japanese too.
Yes, I am appealing to popularity, but there is no use arguing over subjective matters that you will never come to agree with me on.
>>280695735It's much more simple than that. The person you're arguing with has a genuine mental disorder and no amount of discussion or analyzing will ever convince him because he is a massive faggot who devotes his life to being the biggest waste of sperm possible
>>280684767 (OP)Does it have the entire Akaza fight?
>>280695827Yes. It ends dramatically at the end when he goes to hell with his wife
>>280695827Yes plus the Shinobu vs Douma.
>>280694260>Yeah, yours, considering you brought it up.Nope. (You) were the one who brought up that fever dream and mocked. You're now pretending I were the one hyping that fantasy, when in reality I said from the start: no China release + shit yen + stiff competition = no way it touches Mugen Train globally, let alone $1B. You screamed "$1B is coming!" until reality slapped you in the face, and now you're retroactively blaming me for predicting what you claimed. That's not a rebuttal, that's a flaming case of projection.
>But more admissions=more people are seeing it=more popularityCute sentiment. Completely meaningless for international box office analysis. Why? Admissions =/= Revenue.
Revenue pays studios. Admissions stroke egos. Mugen Train had fewer screens, lower ticket prices, no gimmicks, and worse capacity, and still made more money, that's strength. Infinity Castle padded itself with premium pricing, merch bundles, IMAX bloat, national holiday timing, and still needed every ounce of that inflation to break records by a nose. If admissions are what matter, then go count the number of likes on fanart too, maybe that’ll help your GDP.
>Moving the goalposts to making "less money" because its dollar conversion rate is shit now is retarded,Lmao. Welcome to the real world where studios measure performance in dollars because they don't pay animators in vibes, faggot. You can't call something the biggest success ever and then ignore that the money it made is worth significantly less than in 2020.
If I hand you 10,000 Venezuelan bolivar for your product, it's technically more than I gave you in 2018, but it also buys you a sandwich. This is like bragging your crypto is "up in coin count" while it tanks 70% in USD. Cope harder, loser.
>the cope has moved from "Superman will stop it" to "the numbers don't count because inflation
>>280695845>>280695861No Kokushibo tease/cameo?
>>280695861Does it have the entire Doma fight? So movie 2 is Cat and movie three is retard?
>>280695968If its like the manga, Koku should appear just to say Akaza was a scrub for giving up his supreme power.
>>280696010No it has the Shinobu vs Douma and it ends with her death and the start of Kanao vs Douma.
>>280695794>picAnd even that failed when the actual ending was released later. I came back for the movie hype and I can't believe he's still here. At least he's still getting btfo constantly.
>>280696032It's actually amazing how well she remembered to tie up loose ends
>Akaza is the first upper moon ever created by loses to Doma because he refuses to eat women and Kokushibro because mother fucking Kokushibro Also the running theme of their humanity being the downfall of most upper moons
On the topic of western cultural relevance it's funny how hard JJK cucked MHA out of the "strongest" archetype. All Might was meant to be the Superman stand in but Gojo completely usurped his place. And unlike the westaboo Hori, Gege probably didn't even know about Superman vs. Doomsday, and yet he somehow recaptured the entire appeal of that fight in Gojo vs. Sukuna. Also doesn't help that the actual Superman got a movie while Cuckademia is floundering as well.
>>280696066The best part is that this series is immune to his shitposting. Even while he tries his best here people are still talking and discussing it because it's just a great fucking story lol
Koku/Yorrichi are the best bros in shonen
>>280695730Yoriichi isn't a character, he's just a symbol. And Akaza is a badly written character who the author had to do a lot of damage controlling and forced whitewashing in order to redeem him. The "ackshually Akaza never killed any women!!" cope has no impact when you realize Akaza doesn't interact with a single female character in the entire series.
>>280695735I don't give a FUCK about what normalfag Japanese think, so I don't give a FUCK about your appeal to popularity, lmao. This is the same country that thinks Akira Kurosawa is a bad director and Hiroyuki Sanada (the modern day Toshiro Mifune) had to go to the West to be truly appreciated because Japanese don't care about the craft of filmmaking. They only care about idols which is why Takuya Kimura dominated the Japanese film industry for nearly two decades.
>>280696084Nothing in BnHA worked at all. All Might was good but nothing and I mean fucking NOTHING worked about him being the strongest beause Hori didn't have the balls to kill him off
Not to mention the school story aspects and Deku being a cuck just tainted the whole thing. There is an old Muscular fight post some anon made about why Hori sucks cock at his pay offs in writing
>Yoriichi isn't a character, he's just a symbol
Yeah no one even respond to this fat retard
He's either baiting or intentionally retarded or both
>>280696084One thing Gege did well was built his story around the strongest beings in his world. The moment Gojo was sealed everything went to shit real fast.
Compared to mha, where a big deal was made about the fall of the symbol of hope there was little change in the story, just a couple offhanded comments about the rise of crime in Japan but in reality there weren't many actual consequences. This mirrors how everyone in the verse says Deku is super heroic but he doesn't actually do much hero work.
>>280696179It's both
It's always both
>>280696143I got that Muscular post
>>280696179Yoriichi the symbol failed in his mission but Yoriichi the person left behind a legacy that brought down Muzan.
>>280696287>One thing Gege did well was built his story around the strongest beings in his world. The moment Gojo was sealed everything went to shit real fast.Exactly! Holy fuck for all its flaws it at least did world building well. Hero's world building sucked fucking ass
I still can't believe they foreshadowed every single death with red / gold
>>280696084Regarding this topic specifically, MHA started out with All Might in a weakened state and in declining health. The same went for All for One. Meanwhile Gojo was not just the strongest of the verse, he was growing stronger as the story went on, same went for Sukuna who gained Megumi's ability to counteract Gojo, something he never had at the height of the heisei era.
I am not J, but you are really comparing apples and oranges here.
>>280684767 (OP)I like how in this poster you can see everyone clearly except for Zenitsu
>>280693259>>280693302My most recent theory/cope is this: we all know these movies will be split into a season later.
WHAT IF...
The 3rd movie ends into either a cliffhanger (Tanjiro's death, Muzanjiro ENTERS) or a very open ending (Tanjiro wakes up after rejecting Muzan) and then UFO announces that the end of the serie is "THE LAST EPISODE" that will air with the TV season, kinda like the Rengoku filler we got for Season 2?
A single episode (probably a 45min special) is quite different from an entirely new season, but it would still make the 3rd movie much more feasible since they would have SO MUCH SHIT to cram if the movie is also supposed to cover the epilogue.....
>>280696137>about what normalfag Japanese thinkyet you discuss sales and parade sales and revenue in nearly every essay you post
>>280695909>Revenue pays studios. Admissions stroke egos.But RoI is meaningless for this movie, because it's pulling like a x20 anyway.
You said it was dead, that its popularity was dead and something something fatigue, yet far more people showed up.
THAT is strength, no
>because the yen is far weaker now it made less money>who cares if it was at the exact same value as last time it would have done way more money because way more people showed upInsane cope jimbo.
>>280696654that's the funniest part
>"I don't care I don't care! It's incredibly important to tell you how much I don't care!"
>>280696536Yeah, cry about your badly written manga being called out for being badly written.
And I still don't give a fuck about what normalfag Japanese think. Japan, like anywhere else, is deeply susceptible to mediocrity, comfort, and idol culture.
This is the same country that:
>Thought Akira Kurosawa was a bad director>Let Hiroyuki Sanada, Japan'a most refined dramatic actor since Toshiro Mifune struggle in domestic obscurity so he had to go to Hollywood to be appreciated while Takuya Kimura reigned as a wooden idol-actor for two decades>Snubbed masterpieces like Shogun despite it being one of the best portrayals of Japanese feudal history in decades So no, "what Japan likes" is not a valid arbiter of artistic value.
Yoriichi = symbol, not character
Akaza = retrofitted, sanitized anti-villain
Appeal to popularity = fallacy
Japan's mainstream taste = not proof of literary value
>>280696540I think the trilogy will end with Yushiro crashing the fortress with everyone inside and the movie ending like the S2 climax episode.
The epilogue will be a new season.
How long until mods nuke his posts
>>280696540I still feel like 3 movies is enough. Fight scenes don't take that much time and you could have the last to be entirely about the fight with Muzan and the end no problem. While they could end it on a TV special, the appeal of ending it on a movie is way too strong
>>280696540It would make no sense to put the epilogue in a tv episode
They clearly want it to be a movie. and Imo a movie works better
they can fit douma + koku + nakime next movie in under 2h20m. If they don't put out any original scenes.
>>280696757Good luck with that, he admits to ban evading every time as he mass reports everyone who ever replied to him rrom several devices.
God I cant wait to see Akaza's ENTER scene where he barrels through several floors to get at Tanjiro. No Im not interested in a camrip. I want to experience it on the big screen with surround sound.
>>280696717I am clearly not the one crying, as a Demon Slayer fan I am happy to see it receiving a godly adaptation and enjoying overwhelming popularity the likes of which your favorites will never see.
Meanwhile you keep grasping for a virtual L to give this franchise while repeatedly moving the goalpost.
>>280696084>Akaza is the first upper moon ever createdKokushibo was the first by virtue of predating the system and being Upper 1 from the start in his flashback, when Muzan turned Akaza into a demon he talks about creating a group of elite demons under him, the Twelve Demon Moons, making Kokushibo some company thereafter.
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>>280696729Not possible anymore. The hope for a exclusive movie for Koku was UFO moving the Zenitsu find around for the 2nd movie. There's no universe where Douma gets a 2 hour movie all for himself, it would need obscene amounts of padding and there's no business incentive for a movie without Tanjiro where the 3 most featured characters are not in the Top 5 in popularity.
At this point, there's little doubt that Movie 2 covers both Douma and Koku.
3rd movie is just confusing cause it's gonna need to be DAMN long.
>>280696771>>280696797I disagree, but I'm not confident about this hunch. I feel like an extra special episode would "justify" the "rehashed material" season better, just like the Rengoku filler. But my main reason is still the hard task of imagining a 210 minutes movie not being too emotionally exhausting, given its content.
>>280694547>you were originally claiming Kimetsu no Yaiba was no longer as popular as it used to beNo, you absolute donkey. I never said Demon Slayer isn't popular. I said:
>It's still big, but not a once-in-a-lifetime juggernaut anymore and the boom from 2020 has since toned down>Mugen Train's miracle run isn’t repeatable>Inflation + competition + economic decay = lower impactYour dumbass is inventing strawmen because my actual points are too accurate to touch.
>It has economic dominance over your favorite shitty manga, okay.What the hell does this even mean? Who cares what manga I like? This is literally just flailing nonsense because you have nothing left. Might as well shout "Wan Piss mid" while you’re at it.
>You keep bringing up that number, almost like it will be your next cope once Infinity Castle does as well as Mugen Train.Nah, bitch. I mocked that number. I clowned it. I stomped on the number and then lit it on fire. You're panicking so hard now that your fan fantasy is collapsing that you're trying to say you secretly hope it hits $1B so you can cope about it even though I've clearly and repeatedly shown why it won't. That's not just goalpost moving, that's hallucinating a whole new football field.
>>280685899If panties don't exist in Kimetsu's universe, then what is Daki wearing?
>>280684767 (OP)/a/ and its narrative lost again. LMAO
>>280697373/a/nons were the original KnYchads and everyone who was there on the original run will never let people forget.
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>>280697313I don't know if your retarded ass can comprehend this
but a weaker currency exchange works in favor of kny overall profit as other currencies will bring more money comparable to when the yen was stronger. Ufotable studio pays their employees on yen. they produce by buying in yen etc.
Sony has already explictiy said this in their financial report, such as their games section. Infinity castle is likely to be far more profitable if the international numbers remain the same or become better (especially in US). Even when the YEN > usd box office conversion is "weak" that doesn't really matter to the bottom line.
Get educated faggot
t.PE investment analyst
>>280697373/a/ loved Kimetsu it as one of the few places that didn't went "Who??" before the anime.
/a/ only became contrarian after the anime massive success in the West post-Episode 19.
>>280697439>retards will never remember the pre 2019 period where this board was the only place that even cared about this series>and scanlated it
>>280697481>/a/ only became contrarian after the anime massive success in the West post-Episode 19.It was only some seething OPfags and snkfags. now its just one person who's constantly seething and one other fag who comes to seethe once in a while. Very easy to spot.
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>>280697481>/a/ loved Kimetsu it as one of the few places that didn't went "Who??" before the anime.Cool horseshit bro
>>280697239>I am clearly not the one cryingYes, you fucking are, lmao. You're replying. Repeatedly. With zero arguments and nothing but smug ego-huffing about popularity like that somehow makes the writing good. You've been emotionally flailing from the moment someone called your favorite toy "poorly written." You're seething behind a thin veil of smugness. Every word you type is just tears rerouted into snark.
>as a Demon Slayer fan I am happyYou're not happy, you're defensive. If you were truly content, you wouldn't still be trying to justify why you think it's good by pointing to how many people bought into it. That's not confidence, dipshit. That’s validation addiction. You're not defending art, you're jist defending your identity because someone dared to pull the veil off your dopamine-feeding golden calf.
>and enjoying overwhelming popularityI don't give a FUCK about your badly written manga made for greasy losers, underage children and old hags going apeshit over it, rofl. You've just admitted you value sales over quality. You're literally saying "I like it because it’s popular." That’s NPC-tier media consumption. You don't actually like stories, you like hype trains and consumer success. And you're not a fan of Demon Slayer, you're just a pathetic Black Clover faggot who's a parasite sucking clout from its popularity because nobody gave your bog standard medieval Naruto copycat the time of day. Your taste is determined by how many other people liked something, not why it's worth liking.
>>280697543>Cool horseshit bro>922 results in the archiveJimbo...
>>280697543>He wasn't in the potato head threadsHow new are you?
>>280690234I liked the second one more for the slasher Dino
>>280697658Those dead threads?
>>280697687>Moving the goalpostSure, they weren't a whole week deal like they became after the anime, but they were good enough.
Has anyone said whether or not any of the hashira acknowledge the castle from the intel they should've gotten from snake and wind? The plothole Ufotable introduced in their season 4 filler still irks me a bit.
280697552
Cope, seethe and dilate. Then repeat in that order. No (you) for you.
>>280697552>the likes of which your favorites will never see.Yeah, because actual art doesn't pander. Great stories, stories with subtlety, depth, emotional honesty, and layered characters don't trend with dopamine-starved underage brats who need crying flashbacks and sword particle effects to feel something. The best stories aren't always the most sold, they're the most remembered by people with a brain. Phoenix, Nausicaa, A Bride's Story, Vagabond, Pluto, Shin Angyo Onshi. Spirited Away and Your Name are also still talked about while Mugen Train is already irrelevant 5 years later. Aniplex tried to submit Mugen Train into the Academy Awards and wanted validation from the film industry but were promptly rejected and laughed out of the building. Spirited Away won an Oscar and Your Name was nominated, both works will age like wine. Demon Slayer will age like a TikTok trend.
>Meanwhile you keep grasping for a virtual LNah, I'm not grasping. Your spine's been turned into a mop for multiple posts straight. The L is not virtual, it's tattooed on your forehead in Comic Sans. Your only rebuttals have been:
>"It's popular!">"Cope!">"I'm not mad, YOU’RE mad!">"Look at the anime!">Your'e moving the goalpostThis is what fanboys say when they don't understand the conversation. No one moved shit. You've been flailing between "it's good writing," "it's popular," "it made me cry," and "look at the animation." I held the same line since the start:
>Demon Slayer is poorly written.>The characters are shallow.>Popularity is not proof of quality.>Japan's mainstream does not define artistic merit. This is the country that thinks Kurosawa is a bad director and dismissed Sanada while Takuya Kimura ruled the industry with an iron fist.No goalpost moved. You're just too retarded to keep up.
>>280697828Why would they its anime original
>>280697543>cool horseshit broWhoa a classic.
Reminder that this turbo fag got exposed as a filthy redditor by /wsj/. Thats the 3rd time he's been doxxed.
>>280698060Also his timezones.
Also continent and probable country of origin despite larping as french.
Fucking basketball, man.
>>280697955What do you mean why? It's a plothole they made canon and it wasn't mentioned at all during the hashira meeting.
>>280697452>A weaker currency exchange works in favor of kny overall profit since foreign currency brings in more yenYeah, no shit, retard. That's true for Sony's internal accounting, not for box office reporting or global impact which is what I've been debating for two weeks. I'm not talking about whether Ufotable gets a fat backend bonus, I'm talking about media reach, franchise dominance, and global prestige. And by that metric? The weak yen cripples the perception.
>Mugen Train in 2020: ¥40.4B = ~$370M USD>Infinity Castle in 2025: ¥40.4B = ~$255M USDSame audience, same money, but 30% less value on the global leaderboard. So yeah, if your only goal is for Ufotable to buy more curry rice, then congrats. But if you’re screaming "TOP 10 GLOBAL!" like your dumbass has for a whole year, then the weak yen mathematically erases your flex.
>Sony graphYes, the slide shows FX impact helping revenue totals. Again, for internal revenue reporting, not theatrical performance comparisons across time or borders. But you're either too retarded or completely ignored the rest of the same report:
>FX Impact: +419.8 billion yen in sales.>But Operating Income? -28% despite that.In other words: Yen inflation pumped up the sales line, but actual profitability tanked because foreign exchange volatility also increases costs, especially for overseas marketing, distribution, and partnerships. You think you dropped a nuke. But you actually posted evidence that currency distortion bloats raw revenue but can obscure the real performance of the business.
Also, box office success is not just about raw yen. It's about optics, prestige, chart rankings, and worldwide dominance. None of which are counted in ¥. If you want global bragging rights, you're measured in USD, not "how many vending machine tokens Ufotable can now afford."
>>280698203Its filler it's not canon
just like mugen train 1st episode
If you're going to treat fillers as canon than naruto has 1000's of plotholes
>>280698241You're really inept at all this financial stuff aren't you?
Its truly the worst thing when someone pretends to know what they're talking about in a subject you're experienced in.
Just suck it lad.
>>280698299 (me)
Also I was the one who brought up the currency exchange in wsj few days ago and you ran with this point. You're really retarded
>>280698060>r-redditor!!Cool story, faggot. Half of 4chan are Reddit posts. The internet isn't a turf war, this is not West Side Story. Nobody gives a fuck where you post when the points I'm making are bulletproof. And let's be real, you're not mad I post on Reddit. You're mad I post with clarity, receipts, and economic literacy (something you failed at) and it makes your reactionary fanboy posting look like emotional diarrhea.
>h-he got doxxed!!First off, you're not actually "doxxing" me. You're just obsessively screenshotting my posts across a public platform, which ironically just makes me the main character of every thread I'm in. That's stalker behavior, not a flex. Also, imagine proudly announcing:
>"We couldn't beat this guy's logic, so we had to find his Reddit posts and whine about it for days!"You’re not "exposing" anyone. You're exposing yourself as completely owned. You're so thoroughly clowned by my posts that your only comeback is 'he uses Reddit!' Not one rebuttal. Not one correction. Just stalking and shrieking. Rent-free doesn't even begin to describe it.
>>280698388Go back Wasabi. You lost.
>>280698388>Half of 4chan are Reddit posts.I mean, your posts will probably make half of 4chan at this rate.
>>280698376>that's not even my final form>missing screenings>saturday looks even more packed
holy shit that was a nuke so many posts are gone
blessed mods!
>>280698248Ah, yes. Comparing the seasonal show to the series that ran for years on end. The two filler episodes in kimetsu aren't directly tied to the season's canon arc or anything.
damn he got NUKED
Mods = GODS
Does this movie even benefit from being in IMAX? I thought the whole gimmick of IMAX was that the screen opens up beyond a standard 16:9 ratio. They don't really draw frames that extend beyond 16:9 though. I'm still going to watch it in IMAX, but I feel like the only benefit this movie is getting is just the louder audio and larger screen that usually comes with IMAX.
Hopefully this includes several rangebans too.
He gets assblasted when he gets rangebanned.
>>280698565You can't be serious man. It's anime original scene
a filler
You want ufotable to incorporate their dogshit anime original into canon? the nips would seethe
>>280698559It has reached to the point where his posts are done by AI machine and sound like a bot. You can’t engage in a discussion with someone like this.
>>280698633his phone posting wasn't nuked sadly, but hopefully based jannies will keep nuking him
>>280698611IMAX has higher quality screens overall
It feels good to be back KnYchads
>>280698805me on the right
>>280698641Brother, it already is canon because it's in the anime. I'm not sure how you don't understand this. Sanemi and Iguro seeing the castle is in the same episode as the hashira meeting, Tamayo's summon, etc. This isn't Tanjirou going to fight bootleg Akaza for 10 episodes in bumfuck Africa.
I kinda hate the fact they're going to make all the movie absurdly long
I liked that mugen train was short.
They should have just made it 4 movies.
at this rate the finale will be 3 hours which is dumb
Especially from a financial perspective for them, it makes zero sense.
>>280692770do you have the crow version?
Kaigakubros/sisters how we feeling?
Also someone please post leaks!
>>280698848I hate it purely because I have to wait 2 fucking months!
>>280698848naw I fucking love it
I want a new trend of anime movies giving great adaptations of good arc
Kagurabachi's entire auction arc would make a fucking fantastic movie
>>280697262>The hope for a exclusive movie for Koku was UFO moving the Zenitsu find around for the 2nd moviethat would have been better and made both movie 1 and 2 filled with enough characters while being like 2 hours each
I don't know why they didn't do it
movie 1: shinobu vs douma, akaza vs giyuu, some anime original scenes
movie 2: douma vs inosuke kanao, nakime fight, zenitsu fight, koku introduction at the ending
movie 3: 3/4 koku, muzan destroying the castle
movie 4: muzan fight + epilogue
it makes more sense, is better paced AND better for them from a financial perspective
>>280698983It's three volumes long, it really would be pushing it HARD.
>AIIIEEEEE SAVE ME MODS
Just for that, I'll repost EVERYTHING I said. I do whatever the FUCK I want when I want, and there's nothing you can do about that Black Clover faggot. I'm in charge of your samefag thread for tonight.
>>280689415>can only hope to do similar numbers to Mugen Train at the end of its run.>*blocks your path*It made $560M+ in just two weeks BTW
>>280699016mods jeremy is back and ban evading again
you have to range ban his ass
>>280689220>Did the Mugen Train get a chinese release back then?Nope, never did and Infinity Castle never will thus its box office is capped out lmao.
>>280699068You can try all you want, it won't work on me.
>>280699095>You can try all you want, it won't work on me.and why not
>>280688385>>280688719Lmao. You posted a tweet that literally says:
"The devaluation of the yen against the dollar dims the international shine of this mega-success."
Which is exactly what I've been hammering for two straight weeks. So thank you for the self-own and backing me up. Maybe try reading next time before you cheerlead yourself off a cliff like a retard.
Second, this part?
>>280688793>At its current pace compared to Mugen Train it’s likely to surpass $1 billion globallyIs actual unfiltered brainrot. Mugen Train did $504M worldwide. The idea that Infinity Castle , a film with no China release, weaker overseas legs, a depreciated currency, and no pandemic vacuum is going to double that and hit $1B is so delusional I wouldn't even say it sarcastically on this Chinese chalkboard forum. Let's do math (again) since clearly nobody in your camp passed middle school:
>Domestic (Japan): Let’s say it reaches ¥20B (generous). That's ~$125M USD at today's rate>Overseas: Maybe, maybe, it scrapes together $60-70M more across Korea, SEA, Taiwan, and some scraps in the USTotal? Best-case $185–200M.
You're not hitting a billion. You’re not hitting Mugen Train’s $370M from Japan. You're not even hitting its global $504M. You're screaming "W!" because it broke a Day 1 record with holiday inflation, IMAX saturation, and merch bundles and you're completely ignoring the drop-off that’s about to body this movie in Week 2. Enjoy your opening day fireworks. Just don't look too closely at the currency conversion, the long tail box office, or the absolute bloodbath of summer competition that’s about to kneecap this thing.
Also, maybe stop posting tweets that support my argument like they're dunks. You're self-owning harder than Netflix stock in 2022.
>>280699016This is mental illness Jeremy
>no I'm just a BO aficionado!
>>280690964No. I didn’t underrate anything, I modeled it based on actual market behavior and historical precedent. You're just "feeling" things because you want them to be true, which is how 5-year-olds process box office trends. You act like word of mouth and event cinema are new. "People want to see movies that feel like events!" Yes, and that's been true since Star Wars in 1977. It also doesn’t change:
>The absence of a China release>The collapsed yen dragging down WW gross>The glut of summer blockbusters competing for real estate>And the fact that anime doesn't have a deep enough global base to scale past $1B without miraclesMugen Train hit $504M at the absolute best possible moment in moviegoing history for a local product. Infinity Castle is not in that moment. It's running in a crowded field, on a weakening currency, in a market no longer deprived of blockbusters. Your "feelings" won’t print another $800M.
>>280699137Like I said, I do whatever the FUCK I want when I want. And I rule this thread with an iron fist. Technically speaking, I'm keeping your dead thread on life-support because your samefag ass can't sustain it by yourself.
>>280699177>And I rule this thread with an iron fist.See, mental illness.
>>280692669No, retard. Not pretending. Stated outright, so keep your mouth shut. And it is an anomaly. Mugen Train was a perfect storm:
>No competition>Theater monopolization>Word of mouth feeding on a content drought>A still-locked-down global industry>A pandemic that amplified demand for escapismYou cannot replicate that environment. Not even if you slap a billion yen in IMAX tickets onto Day 1.
>Infinity Castle having more admissions does not matter because it will not due to conversion rates!No, I said it matters less internationally, because you can't brag about admissions when the currency those admissions are priced in is in the toilet. That's not a goalpost move, it's just your retarded underage brain struggling to process the part where ¥1 billion today = way less in real value than in 2020.
>N-Next you are gonna pretend Demon Slayer is no longer popularNobody said it wasn't popular. It's clearly a megahit in Japan. I just can't distinguish between being popular and having long-term legs and economic dominance. That's your problem, you think breaking a single-day record means the movie isimmortal. Noone talks about Mugen Train anymore for a reason except for underage faggots who make up the vast majority of this poorly written manga made for 10-year-old's fanbase and still clinging to his 15 minutes of fame. Spirited Away is still talked about, so is Your Name. They actually left an impact. They're the only two anime films that made it to the Top 100 Greatest Movies of the 21st Centuryand highly regarded by film veterans. Mugen Train tried to submit itself to the Academy Awaerds and got laughed out of the building.
>TL;DR?Infinity Castle is a financial success. But not Mugen Train 2.
No China, weak yen, crowded market. The ceiling is real.
$1B global is fantasy pulled out of someone's colon.
More admissions =/= more dollars when ticket prices are inflated and currency is devalued.
Opening day =/= box office dominance. Just ask The Flash.
damn demon slayer becoming the most popular manga ever made while bnha is a laughing stock really broke him
remember the cuck ending for Deku where he becomes a wage slave while all his friends become heroes? lmao
>>280698376Jesus christ. Imagine the next two movies. I wonder if this will somehow increase the manga sales even though every household in japan probably owns the Manga already
>>280697262Hell, the second movie needs to be long too. It's going to cover 4 more chapters than this one. I just hope the third one isn't rushed due to it being like 25 chapters long.
>>280699003This is what I thought they would do. It's somewhat surprising they aren't doing a 4th movie to milk the IP more.
>>280699246oh absolutely
they need to bundle the manga together with the final movie and give out merch
I would 1000% buy a sick box set
>>280698848Nah fuck off, i would watch a 3 hour long Movie of my favorite series if one existed.
>>280699246it'll prob be at 250M by the time the third movie releases. and if they release a kanzenban it'll hit 270m in a short time frame
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I'm still here, and I can do whatever the FUCK I want. Your crying won't work on me.
>>280699221First off, I don't care about MHA. Second, One Piece is the best selling manga of all time with no equal and will stay that way forever. And unlike the Demon Slayer, Oda has the privilege to make money from both the Toei anime, the Wit anime AND the movies. The Demon Slayer hack wasn't paid a dime for the money and only got once for Mugen Train: a measly $10K. Dragon Ball is second and Naruto is the popular anime in the Western market.
>>280690964No. I didn’t underrate anything, I modeled it based on actual market behavior and historical precedent. You're just "feeling" things because you want them to be true, which is how 5-year-olds process box office trends. You act like word of mouth and event cinema are new. "People want to see movies that feel like events!" Yes, and that's been true since Star Wars in 1977. It also doesn’t change:
>The absence of a China release>The collapsed yen dragging down WW gross>The glut of summer blockbusters competing for real estate>And the fact that anime doesn't have a deep enough global base to scale past $1B without miraclesMugen Train hit $504M at the absolute best possible moment in moviegoing history for a local product. Infinity Castle is not in that moment. It's running in a crowded field, on a weakening currency, in a market no longer deprived of blockbusters. Your "feelings" won’t print another $800M.
>>280699341He's so beautiful and Miyano is so perfect (as expected)
>>280699431The problem is you're a massive idiot so you're analysis is wrong
the same way you've been wrong about most everything lol
>>280699459Stop replying to him, just let mods do their job.
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>>280693270Nothing. It's fast food anime. There's a reason why Spirited Away and Your Name made it to the list of Top 100 Greatest Movies of the 21st Century while Mugen Train didn't make it to the cut. Avengers made it to the cut because it left an impact (for better or worse), so did Spider-Verse that pushed 3D CGI animation to the max. Godzilla Minus One made it too and a Korean drama is at the top so clearly, they have no bias for Asian media. Demon Slayed just isn't art and never will be: it's a cheeseburger anime.
>>280699487Won't work on me, I'll still come back. As I said, I rule your samefag thread with an IRON FIST. And there's nothing you can do about that.
>>280699494I forgot there was this based dad scene.
>>280694474They were smart enough to stay in their lane unlike Demon Slayer that wants to join the big leagues, hence why Aniplex tried to submit Mugen Train into the Academy Awards but were immediately rejected and laughed out of the building.
>>280694619Yes. They're all slop too. But they all have redeeming qualities unlike Demon Slayer. Dragon Ball has good art and good choreography, something Demon Slayer don't have. One Piece has the worldbuilding, something Demon Slayer don't have. My Hero Academia has god-tier art and god-tier porn, something Demon Slayer don't have. And Naruto is the king of slops, it's the most popular anime in the world bar none.
>>280693852Wrong. Literally in the post in this very thread:
>At its current pace it's likely to surpass $1 billion globally.You only backpedaled after I mocked it into the dirt. This is textbook cope cleanup. I'm not going to let you slither out. Own up or shut up.
>>280693951Lmao. This is rich coming from people who were screaming "it's gonna beat Mugen Train!" 48 hours ago. You people pivoted so hard, you've dislocated both your shoulders. Yes, ¥20B is a strong result domestically. Yes, $180-200M global is a solid anime film performance But you're acting like this was always your line. No, chief. You don't get to lower the bar mid-run and then brag about clearing it. This is like someone saying you're going to the Olympics and then calling it a win because you placed top 25 in a regional qualifier.
>>280694055Funny words coming from the faggot who's been:
>Quoting me>Stalking my posts>Screenshotting my replies across platforms>Writing walls of text about my postsAnd now suddenly it’s:
>Why are you so obsessed?Nah, brat. You're a one-man archive of my existence. You're the Wikipedia editor for my takes, and you're mad that I'm still right.
>All of this essays you post, won't change a single thing.And yet you keep reading them. Every word. Every thread. Every time. Why? Because you know I'm right. They hurt and they sting your underage ego. I could post just:
>¥160 to the dollar. Still true.And it would set you off for 7 posts. I'm not trying to "change the market." I'm clapping back against delusional underage fans with logic (something you don't have) and that's exactly why it rattles you. You need this movie to be untouchable and all you showed me is that it's just strong, not historic and not god-tier. Just solid. And that's the real offense to your psyche.
>>280695164>Demon Slayer shows genuine familial bondsIt doesn't, because Demon Slayer doesn't show you what it means to be a brother and sister and other aspects on what makes a sibling bond beyond just unconditional love, it just tells you and vibes around. Nezuko is such a non-character that you could replace her with a dogand Demon Slayer would be a touching story about a boy trying to save his dog. That's how irrelevant that glorified onahole is. I'd make a power move on you by name-dropping other manga that were more competently written than your poorly written children's comic starting with...
>FMAEd and Al is how you write siblings. They argue. They disagree. They support each other fiercely but aren't afraid to call each other out. Their bond is rooted in shared trauma, mutual responsibility, and guilt, not just "brotherly love." It's messy and grounded.
>Ousama RankingDaida and Bojji's relationship is not your typical sibling bond. There's resentment, jealousy, regret, and eventual growth. The manga actually gives both characters time to develop individually and together. It doesn't cheap out on forgiveness either; it earns it. Nezuko meanwhile gets written out of the story in favor of the glorified jobbers the Hashira.
>My GirlFocuses more on fatherhood, but the extended family and sibling-type dynamics are incredibly grounded. There's this unspoken sense of duty and unglamorous love that hits hard.
If your sibling character doesn't grow, struggle, lash out, forgive, regret, or actually affect the plot with agency, then you're just dressing up a plushie and calling it "bond." The author didn't have the emotional intelligence to write a sibling relationship beyond unconditional love and Nezuko isn't a character, she's a Tamagotchi that bites.
>>280694055It's a mixture of being schizophrenic and other mental illnesses. He's been at it for over a decade
>>280699003>>280699258In the end, I think there's too much pressure not to delay the Genshin anime until 2031.
KnY keeps almost all of UFO's hands on deck all the time, so they don't intend to delay the end of the franchise more than what is needed to deliver a top product and print lots of money. It's a pity. Not the most ideal outcome, but meh, it's still better than what 99% of anime will ever get.
As I said, I still think there will be a "goodbye episode" included in the TV version of Infinity Castle, as it would not demand another year of hands tied to produce a 45min. special.
I think it's a bot because he's posting the exact same posts that the mods already deleted
even the files are the same
>>280694260>Yeah, yours, considering you brought it up.Nope. (You) were the one who brought up that fever dream and mocked. You're now pretending I were the one hyping that fantasy, when in reality I said from the start: no China release + shit yen + stiff competition = no way it touches Mugen Train globally, let alone $1B. You screamed "$1B is coming!" until reality slapped you in the face, and now you're retroactively blaming me for predicting what you claimed. That's not a rebuttal, that's a flaming case of projection.
>But more admissions=more people are seeing it=more popularityCute sentiment. Completely meaningless for international box office analysis. Why? Admissions =/= Revenue.
Revenue pays studios. Admissions stroke egos. Mugen Train had fewer screens, lower ticket prices, no gimmicks, and worse capacity, and still made more money, that's strength. Infinity Castle padded itself with premium pricing, merch bundles, IMAX bloat, national holiday timing, and still needed every ounce of that inflation to break records by a nose. If admissions are what matter, then go count the number of likes on fanart too, maybe that’ll help your GDP.
>Moving the goalposts to making "less money" because its dollar conversion rate is shit now is retarded,Lmao. Welcome to the real world where studios measure performance in dollars because they don't pay animators in vibes, faggot. You can't call something the biggest success ever and then ignore that the money it made is worth significantly less than in 2020.
If I hand you 10,000 Venezuelan bolivar for your product, it's technically more than I gave you in 2018, but it also buys you a sandwich. This is like bragging your crypto is "up in coin count" while it tanks 70% in USD. Cope harder, loser.
>>280699692He did say he'd just repost them, but he does this every time he gets banned and deleted.
>>280699670Ufotable has 300 employees and they're already working on the mahoyo fate anime i think.
But yeah they're pretty overworked. according to the phamplet with the movie it took 3 years to create the movie iirc
>>280699692He's reposting it after ban evading. just ignore and do that and let him get nuked again and again.
>>280699692>it's JeremAIOh god he's gonna haunt this board forever
>>280699731>>280699719can the mods range ban him already
Remember, he isnt obsessed.
>>280699745He already can't post pics (as his posts show).
This makes him even angrier.
>>280695730Yoriichi isn't a character, he's just a symbol. And Akaza is a badly written character who the author had to do a lot of damage controlling and forced whitewashing in order to redeem him. The "ackshually Akaza never killed any women!!" cope has no impact when you realize Akaza doesn't interact with a single female character in the entire series.
>>280695735I don't give a FUCK about what normalfag Japanese think, so I don't give a FUCK about your appeal to popularity, lmao. This is the same country that thinks Akira Kurosawa is a bad director and Hiroyuki Sanada (the modern day Toshiro Mifune) had to go to the West to be truly appreciated because Japanese don't care about the craft of filmmaking. They only care about idols which is why Takuya Kimura dominated the Japanese film industry for nearly two decades.
>>280699745I do whatever the FUCK I want when I want, and your Black Clover faggot ass ain't gonna do NOTHING about that. I'm the main character who keeps your samefag thread alive at a gun-point.
>>280699670They should just scrap the Genshin anime. I still think it's the reason season 3 turned out the way it did.
>>280696536Yeah, cry about your badly written manga being called out for being badly written.
And I still don't give a fuck about what normalfag Japanese think. Japan, like anywhere else, is deeply susceptible to mediocrity, comfort, and idol culture.
This is the same country that:
>Thought Akira Kurosawa was a bad director>Let Hiroyuki Sanada, Japan'a most refined dramatic actor since Toshiro Mifune struggle in domestic obscurity so he had to go to Hollywood to be appreciated while Takuya Kimura reigned as a wooden idol-actor for two decades>Snubbed masterpieces like Shogun despite it being one of the best portrayals of Japanese feudal history in decadesSo no, "what Japan likes" is not a valid arbiter of artistic value.
Yoriichi = symbol, not character
Akaza = retrofitted, sanitized anti-villain
Appeal to popularity = fallacy
Japan's mainstream taste = not proof of literary value
>>280699809I only have two complaints about season 3
1) they didn't get his psycho face right
2) one episode dragged on too long
everything else was great
>>280699809>They should just scrap the Genshin animeufotable is never gonna do that. It's their big cash cow after kimetsu
ufotable is also the sole company in genshin (along with the ip owner obviously) so they're going to make a lot and can infinitely milk it
There's a risk of them becoming a genshin company, though i think they'll make a seperate team for it
>>280694547>you were originally claiming Kimetsu no Yaiba was no longer as popular as it used to beNo, you absolute donkey. I never said Demon Slayer isn't popular. I said:
>It's still big, but not a once-in-a-lifetime juggernaut anymore and the boom from 2020 has since toned down>Mugen Train's miracle run isn’t repeatable>Inflation + competition + economic decay = lower impactYour dumbass is inventing strawmen because my actual points are too accurate to touch.
>It has economic dominance over your favorite shitty manga, okay.What the hell does this even mean? Who cares what manga I like? This is literally just flailing nonsense because you have nothing left. Might as well shout "Wan Piss mid" while you’re at it.
>You keep bringing up that number, almost like it will be your next cope once Infinity Castle does as well as Mugen Train.Nah, bitch. I mocked that number. I clowned it. I stomped on the number and then lit it on fire. You're panicking so hard now that your fan fantasy is collapsing that you're trying to say you secretly hope it hits $1B so you can cope about it even though I've clearly and repeatedly shown why it won't. That's not just goalpost moving, that's hallucinating a whole new football field.
>>280697239>I am clearly not the one cryingYes, you fucking are, lmao. You're replying. Repeatedly. With zero arguments and nothing but smug ego-huffing about popularity like that somehow makes the writing good. You've been emotionally flailing from the moment someone called your favorite toy "poorly written." You're seething behind a thin veil of smugness. Every word you type is just tears rerouted into snark.
>as a Demon Slayer fan I am happyYou're not happy, you're defensive. If you were truly content, you wouldn't still be trying to justify why you think it's good by pointing to how many people bought into it. That's not confidence, dipshit. That’s validation addiction. You're not defending art, you're jist defending your identity because someone dared to pull the veil off your dopamine-feeding golden calf.
>and enjoying overwhelming popularityI don't give a FUCK about your badly written manga made for greasy losers, underage children and old hags going apeshit over it, rofl. You've just admitted you value sales over quality. You're literally saying "I like it because it’s popular." That’s NPC-tier media consumption. You don't actually like stories, you like hype trains and consumer success. And you're not a fan of Demon Slayer, you're just a pathetic Black Clover faggot who's a parasite sucking clout from its popularity because nobody gave your bog standard medieval Naruto copycat the time of day. Your taste is determined by how many other people liked something, not why it's worth liking.
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>>280699846I almost feel like it's a bit too late. It would have been amazing a few years ago but now other gacha like Wuthering Waves and Arknights are arguably better
>>280699874>the likes of which your favorites will never see.Yeah, because actual art doesn't pander. Great stories, stories with subtlety, depth, emotional honesty, and layered characters don't trend with dopamine-starved underage brats who need crying flashbacks and sword particle effects to feel something. The best stories aren't always the most sold, they're the most remembered by people with a brain. Phoenix, Nausicaa, A Bride's Story, Vagabond, Pluto, Shin Angyo Onshi. Spirited Away and Your Name are also still talked about while Mugen Train is already irrelevant 5 years later. Aniplex tried to submit Mugen Train into the Academy Awards and wanted validation from the film industry but were promptly rejected and laughed out of the building. Spirited Away won an Oscar and Your Name was nominated, both works will age like wine. Demon Slayer will age like a TikTok trend.
>Meanwhile you keep grasping for a virtual LNah, I'm not grasping. Your spine's been turned into a mop for multiple posts straight. The L is not virtual, it's tattooed on your forehead in Comic Sans. Your only rebuttals have been:
>"It's popular!">"Cope!">"I'm not mad, YOU’RE mad!">"Look at the anime!">Your'e moving the goalpostThis is what fanboys say when they don't understand the conversation. No one moved shit. You've been flailing between "it's good writing," "it's popular," "it made me cry," and "look at the animation." I held the same line since the start:
>Demon Slayer is poorly written.>The characters are shallow.>Popularity is not proof of quality.>Japan's mainstream does not define artistic merit. This is the country that thinks Kurosawa is a bad director and dismissed Sanada while Takuya Kimura ruled the industry with an iron fist.No goalpost moved. You're just too retarded to keep up.
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>>280699877it lost out in some popularity but its still mega popular
Also, just like kimetsu and fate. it works really well with their cafe business.
>>280699837Episodes 4 and 7 were both really bad. Episode 11 was really dragged out as well, but Sotozaki worked on that episode so I'll just blame him.
>>280699846I can see the studio continuing to pump out KnY merch for a long long time.
>>280697452>A weaker currency exchange works in favor of kny overall profit since foreign currency brings in more yenYeah, no shit, retard. That's true for Sony's internal accounting, not for box office reporting or global impact which is what I've been debating for two weeks. I'm not talking about whether Ufotable gets a fat backend bonus, I'm talking about media reach, franchise dominance, and global prestige. And by that metric? The weak yen cripples the perception.
>Mugen Train in 2020: ¥40.4B = ~$370M USD>Infinity Castle in 2025: ¥40.4B = ~$255M USDSame audience, same money, but 30% less value on the global leaderboard. So yeah, if your only goal is for Ufotable to buy more curry rice, then congrats. But if you’re screaming "TOP 10 GLOBAL!" like your dumbass has for a whole year, then the weak yen mathematically erases your flex.
>Sony graphYes, the slide shows FX impact helping revenue totals. Again, for internal revenue reporting, not theatrical performance comparisons across time or borders. But you're either too retarded or completely ignored the rest of the same report:
>FX Impact: +419.8 billion yen in sales.>But Operating Income? -28% despite that.In other words: Yen inflation pumped up the sales line, but actual profitability tanked because foreign exchange volatility also increases costs, especially for overseas marketing, distribution, and partnerships. You think you dropped a nuke. But you actually posted evidence that currency distortion bloats raw revenue but can obscure the real performance of the business.
Also, box office success is not just about raw yen. It's about optics, prestige, chart rankings, and worldwide dominance. None of which are counted in ¥. If you want global bragging rights, you're measured in USD, not "how many vending machine tokens Ufotable can now afford."
>>280699928It's going to keep pumping out merch and will get a lot of money. but there's no content to animate afterwards unlike genshin which has theoretically never ending content
>>280698060>r-redditor!!Cool story, faggot. Half of 4chan are Reddit posts. The internet isn't a turf war, this is not West Side Story. Nobody gives a fuck where you post when the points I'm making are bulletproof. And let's be real, you're not mad I post on Reddit. You're mad I post with clarity, receipts, and economic literacy (something you failed at) and it makes your reactionary fanboy posting look like emotional diarrhea.
>h-he got doxxed!!First off, you're not actually "doxxing" me. You're just obsessively screenshotting my posts across a public platform, which ironically just makes me the main character of every thread I'm in. That's stalker behavior, not a flex. Also, imagine proudly announcing:
>"We couldn't beat this guy's logic, so we had to find his Reddit posts and whine about it for days!"You’re not "exposing" anyone. You're exposing yourself as completely owned. You're so thoroughly clowned by my posts that your only comeback is 'he uses Reddit!' Not one rebuttal. Not one correction. Just stalking and shrieking. Rent-free doesn't even begin to describe it.
what I'm most excited for is if Wani will do anything else. I know she has essentially a green light to create anything after Demon Slayer, but I don't want another Samurai 8
Hopefully her God tier status as a mangaka means she can just request that amazing editor that she did the entire story with in one night
>>280698060>>280698172for the love of god please source me that shit
>>280699972Hope she goes back to edgy niche stories
if she goes for the romcom i dont think ill read it though i dont like romance
I don’t think ufo is touching Genshit, they will continue with Mahoyo which is the project they are already established and gave a proper trailer.
>>280700019her original pitch for demon slayer was way, way, way more dark and fucked up
>>280699972>that amazing editor that she did the entire story with in one nightSadly, today's wsj editors are kinda shit. Look at all the directionless new series we got in the past few years.
>>280699972Has she done anything in the past few years? I feel like she fell of the side of the earth.
>>280700033>which is the project they are already establishednot like it counts for much
>girls work>touken ranbu>genshinand now this kek
>>280699998Look familiar?
>>28069897415mins screentime
>>280699972legendary piece of WSJ lore.
literally the beggining of a phenomenon.
>>280700111The thread in question when it happened
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And done. Now, I'll reply to you underage losers.
>>280698299>You’re inept at financial stuffExcept I literally:
>Accurately distinguished between internal currency benefits for Sony vs. global box office optics in USD.>Cited FX impact inflating sales figures without masking operating income drops.>Explained that ranking and perception, not just local yen returns, matter for measuring international dominance.Your counterargument is absolutely nothing. Just vague posturing like:
>Y-You don’t understand finance like I do, bro!!If you were half as "experienced" as he claim, you'd drop:
>EBITDA margins>Localization spend vs. domestic ROI>International distro contracts>Comparative FX-adjusted grossesBut nope. All you got is:
>I feel superior because I said so.Which is textbook Dunning-Kruger syndrome. Idiots who wants to act like they're smart. I'm not arguing that te movie won’t make yen, I'm arguing that the yen it makes is now worth less internationally so bragging about rankings is pointless.
That's not "fake finance," that's just basic economics (which you don't understand), and you have no rebuttal because it's undeniably true. I'm doing foreign exchange math. You're doing anime-tier cope fanboyism.
Your goal isn't truth, it's looking smug in front of your Discord mutuals in your samefag thread. That's why you're:
>Screenshotting my posts>Accusing people of "coping">Waving your arms around like a YouTube finance broBut notice that you never addressed the actual numbers. Because he can't. You're just an idiotic child who doesn't know a single thing every time you start yapping.
>>280699846Does the story have the legs to stand on it's own outside of the game? I've never played it.
>>280700033I want them to adapt the Fate route of FSN and the Ciel and Arcueid routes of the Tsukihime remake.
>>280700074she took a well deserved break since she had done all 205 chapters but once (they forced a covid break week) without ever missing a beat
>>280700154based editor
where did this guy end up?
>>280700189It has huge massive character based fanbase
the story literally doesn't matter as long as they show the character
imagine multiple gojos but gojo popularity is 10x
>>280700181Him freaking out and attempting to samefag and mass report the call out posts
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/280585471
holy fucking shit this is him look at this
the posts are identical this is some faggot reddit ban evading spamming the thread with his massive autistic hate boner for demon slayer:
https://old.reddit.com/user/DrWasabiX/?sort=new
>>280699972It's very obvious that Koyoharu Gotouge isn't doing anything right now because he just isn't really up to the task let alone capable of being a prolific multi-work mangaka like Akira Toriyama, Rumiko Takahashi, Yoshihiro Togashi, Takehiko Inoue or even Hiro Mashima.
Demon Slayer will be the peak and sole entry in his entire career all in large part thanks to Ufotable, Aniplex and Sony Music. He's never done anything else before or since to have a proven track record. Gege, however, seems to be very capable of making another hit manga. So in a way, he's like Aka (who's also a hack, but has a very prolific career unlike Gotouge) and even Horikoshi seems to be up for the task as he's very passionate about drawing and his art only got better (Gotouge's art never improved much).
>>280700189>Does the story have the legs to stand on it's own outside of the gameIt's average imo, not great but not bad either
there's a lot of lore autism but i don't think that works for anime
meh, that fan video was much better and epic
https://x.com/Kaviimrul21/status/1946281870364422256
>>280700207Katayama is the name
Last thing I know he was editing was Dorondoron because he's been editing that guy since Golem Hearts. But a long time can pass where you don't hear shit about editors because they only really come up in interviews about other stuff.
>>280700302Jesus Christ you're a tourist if you're calling croc sama a fucking dude
>>280700315>>280700379my poor beautiful boy...
>>280700297 >These posts are... similar!
No shit, retard. I've been consistent. I use evidence, I present real numbers, and I argue the same projections across platforms. That's called having a coherent argument, not a "ban evading hate boner." If the worst thing you can say is "this guy also posts on Reddit," you've already lost the plot. Also, what's your angle here?
>"You made accurate predictions on two websites! GOTCHA!"You're having a breakdown because I'm consistent and correct, rofl.
>Monitoring my Reddit like an ex-girlfriend? Check>Tracking my posts in real time? Check >Quoting me line-by-line like a jilted ex? Check But I'm the obsessed one? Okay, lmao. This isn't box office discussion anymore, this is internet parasocial warfare, and you turned into a full-time unpaid private investigator of my posting habits. I've won the war when you stopped arguing the topic and started trying to erase me from the discussion entirely.
Also, still not not a single rebuttal to:
>The FX conversion tanking international prestige>Inflation juicing Day 1 at the cost of legs>The difference between profitability vs. cultural dominance>Ufotable's internal wins =/= global rankings
>>280700654Quite a few in xitter and leakers openly post them. Search up in the character names like Shinobu Douma or Kaigaku Zenitsu etc
>>280700658stop ban evading
>>280700658>Accurate predictions AHAHAHAHA DrWasabiX you are a riot.
can't wait to watch it desu it will be good fun
>>280700654Just look through this
>>280700315
Shinobu's death
https://x.com/INFOCUSMTV/status/1946303863553753368
>>280701073So good. Seething womanlet to the very end.
>>280700737Take your own advice, Black Clover faggot.
>>280700902Thanks for confirming that I've been consistent and accurate across platforms. Meanwhile, your receipts are just Reddit screenshots like a jilted ex-girlfriend.
I break down currency shifts and global box office legs. You break into a cold sweat and post my username like it's Voldemort. You're not debating, you're heckling. And heckling is what losers do when the scoreboard isn't on their side.
My track record thus far:
>"Infinity Castle would be frontloaded."Proven.
>"The weak yen would tank its global USD footprint."Proven.
>"I predict a ¥15-20B ceiling in Japan."It's still in range.
>I said fandom cope would be through the roofAnd I'm seeing the evidence live, rofl
So yeah, you can mock the username all you want. But unless you come back with hard math, it's all just whiny noise from a kid losing an argument he thought was a slam dunk.
Man, i wasn't really expecting it because of the security and all, but a lot of the movie has leaked. I am surprised. Akaza vs Giyu is out of this world literally. I am really happy the movie seems like it is not only meeting my expectations but surpassing them
How badly are people going to cry at
>Shinobu's death
>Kanao crying for the first time
>Akaza cradling his wife in his arms
>Akaza cradling his wife in his arms again
>Sun bro crying as he holds the child
>Wind begging the gods not to let GUN die
>Mist
there's just so much pain coming and I cannot fucking wait
>>280701618I refuse to see any of it until I am in Japan
>>280701618Hoping the whole thing is leaked soon. I want to see Tanjirou fighting Akaza.
Akaza's master is voiced by Yuichi Nakamura
https://x.com/Eduard_roh/status/1946247846325260772
>>280701618The leaks for Gayuu vs Akaza are fucking fantastic.
Can't wait to see it for real
holy fucking shit the Akaza leak
that makes the Uzui fight look like the fucking Rui fight god damn
Akaza is probably the most useless UM
dude had 10's of chances to kill giyuu and maim tanjiro and did nothing
>>280701853Muzan shouldn't you be focusing on the poison
I hope they allude to the poison a bit harder considering how badly everyone speed read in the manga
>>280700302>becomes extremely rich and beloved in 4 years of intense work>not an editorcuck like Toriyama>never has to set foot on the slavecamp againWani won so hard, bros.
>tomioka va Akaza
Just take as long as you need with koku UFO, no rush, 100% trust.
>>280702047She's insanely based
>found out early on that her editor was being reassigned>so the two of them pulled an all nighter and wrote an out line for the ENTIRE story as well as important story beats and character moments and themesshe's amazing
>>280701641I can suppress my emotions for everything else but I can already see myself crying at sunJesus crying and then being told he's not worthless
It gives happiness every time Tanjiro is attached to Giyuu. At the end of the Muzan fight with Giyuu helping Tanjirou with the final blown before dawn, will be the dead of me. That shit needs to be adapted godly with all the billies they will get with the trilogy.
>>280685695i give it 2 days before it's leaked online and a few hours for subss
>>280700658i dunno anon, the one who seems to be having a mental breakdown is that faggot who's been seething about kimetsu for the past month basically
>>280701641Mist meeting his twin hit me so hard, especially seeing how he outgrew him yet he was still so fucking young
>>280699809>>becomes extremely rich and beloved in 4 years of intense workAll thanks to Ufotable btw. If not for them, his sloppy manga would've ended and he would be eating instant ramen for a living, lol.
>>not an editorcuck like ToriyamaToriyama will still be remembered far longer than Koyoharu Gotouge who already faded out in obscurity and the public don't really care about. Tezuka chose him as his heir apparent and Tomino named him in the top 3 most important mangaka in Japan. Oda and Tezuka too. They're pretty much rock stars in the manga world. Gotouge is a dime a dozen like Kubo is.
>>never has to set foot on the slavecamp againA bit ungrateful for the magazine that published your slop in the first place, are we?
>>280702203>sun bro's compassion and kindness was so strong it invoked a multi generational love for him to pass on the tradition that would end muzaninsanely
absurdly
ridiculously
based
>>280702212Just now I'm realizing this kind of bond is what Zenitsu and Kaigaku were supposed to have
>>280702294>he kill yourself DrWasabiX and stop ban evading
>>280702221I want to experience it for the first time in theaters. It deserves that much. The rips can be for rewatching my favorite parts.
>>280702212holy shit yes that broke me
>that moment when he sees tanjiro in the rengoku position at the endAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>280702294>for the magazine that published your slop in the first place>bunch of saboteurs who duck oda cockNope.
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>>280701618>>280701769>>280701811Can someone tell me what the relevance even is for Giyuu vs Akaza. There's no emotional connection. Giyuu doesn't have emotions at all, he's boring. Shouldn't it have been someone who actually cares about Rengoku? I know Tanjiro, but teaming up with othera that cared about him. Not the beep boop robot.
>>280702341Yes, HE. Literallt nobody outside of your ESL/predominantly Latinn fandom Wiki page who uses a second hand source from that buffoon Ken Akamatsu. Wikipedia doesn't even accept it as a reliable source and are very careful about addressing Gotouge's gender.
>and stop ban evadingNo.
>>280702368All that cocksucking Oda gets is justified when he single-handedly carries that magazine on his back and keeps it alive. Everyone should suck his cock and then some more since it's thanks to Oda that every slop mangaka you like has a job in the first place.
It's also thanks to Oda that Demon Slayer is even published on Jump BTW.
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>>280702366You did not have to remember me that. Fuck. The voice acting will sell this scene. (please Sakurai, don’t do anything stupid and keep that role).
>>280702487>It's also thanks to Oda that Demon Slayer is even published on Jump BTW.Back then? Not even close.
But of course rigging stuff is only ok when you agree with it after all.
>>280702487Im gonna give you a wedgie and shove you in a locker nerd.
>>280702087Akaza vs Giyu was crazy good
>>280701403>>280701515God, the things I to want in her to inside cum myself
>>280702551That kind of quality is why no one really gets annoyed it's released as movies.
You can't do that for tv.
>>280702434Giyuu is Rengoku and the reason he was paired with Tanjiro in this part of the story is because of Sabito. Now with these clues go re read.
>>280702607Mugen train was originally being made as episodes before being turned into a movie. There are several sections where you can tell when an episode would have ended and where the next one would have began. It looked really good despite that, but I still think the best that KnY has looked visually is the end of Red Light District
>>280700315>human instantly wiping out a demonSo the usual. Why did the manga CONSTANTLY push the idea that demons were flat-out superior in every way when humans are obviously stronger?
>>280684992This is fake. Nezuko's panties are white, not pink
>>280702657>Giyuu is RengokuWhat
>because of SabitoThat whole thing was obviously early arc irrelevance before the story was revamped. Ghost kid shit? Come on. And Sabito has nothing to do with Akaza.
>>280702527>Back then? Not even close.Yup. No Oda, no Jump, no Demon Slayer, no Black Clover, no Jujutsu Kaisen, no Chainsaw Man (though it was a bomb anyway).
>"One Piece Saved Shonen Jump." - Kazuhiko Torishima>According to Torishima's recent interview, after Dragon Ball ended, Weekly Shonen Jump suffered from poor sales and a lack of new talent. Toriyama's style and work were so revolutionary that it took some time for a new generation of artists to come out, who had learned the lessons of the master. That's when Eiichiro Oda and One Piece came along, in 1997, before Kishimoto made his debut in 1999 with Naruto, and Tite Kubo with Bleach in 2001.>Many fans believe that after Dragon Ball ended its serialization, Naruto became Shōnen Jump's saving grace, but according to Torishima, this is far from the truth. In a recently released interview with Imaginez with Discovery, legendary manga editor Torishima mentioned that One Piece almost didn’t make it to serialization. While it is hard to imagine a world without Oda’s masterpiece, higher-ups at Shōnen Jump (including Torishima) initially doubted the potential of One Piece, but, after seeing the passion that Oda held for the series and the lack of available talent at the time, they decided to give the series a shotEvery time a new manga succeeds? It's all because of GODA.
>>280702607>Giyu vs AkazaI mean, Gyutaro vs Tengen was close but this is way better.
>>280702489He already did something stupid and is still here. I hope he doesn't kill anyone though, I don't know if nips will forgive that
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>>280702734Gyutaro vs Tengen was better because Tengen is infinitely more based than Giyuu and Gyutaro is literally me.
>>280702729Just think about where these characters are coming from at that point in time. C'mon, isn't this a simple story for children?
When are we getting webms?
>>280702737Kamiya really isn't nearly as good as sakurai as medicine seller.
He's still ok, but, you know.
>>280702765Akaza would destroy both of them easily
>>280702734Gyutaro vs Tengen was like 1 minute too.
This movie outdoes it just for the sheer length of the fight scenes in consistently high quality.
>>280702765Can I fuck your sister?
>>280702733I see now you are trying to bait someone into mentioning Togashi. I forgot you had something against HxH too for a moment..
I think this is gonna be the first movie i watch three times since Lilo & Stitch in 2002. For all we know, the next one is coming in 2027
>>280684867How so? it literally releases in like few hours and you can watch with fan sub
I love my nameless green wife!
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>>280700315Pretty odd they made Godspeed look way more impressive in the anime compared to how it looked in the manga, while Thunder God is pretty much 1:1 to how it went in the manga, other than trying to make Zenitsu charging his jump more impressive that is.
Well, it is good enough still.
>>280702776>webm of camrips
>>280702874She can poke one of my eyes out anytime she wants.
>>280702688>Mugen train was originally being made as episodes before being turned into a movieNope, Zenitsu's voice actor, Hiro Shimono, speaks on Kimetsu Radio about how his audition to work on the series went, ufotable and Aniplex planned 26 episodes and the Mugen Train movie simultaneously, the movie was their bet to see if the series would become popular to keep going or not.
>>280702866>For all we know, the next one is coming in 2027Since 2019 when the anime originally debuted there hasn't a single year without new animated Kimetsu content, if the next movie doesn't release in 2026 they would break that streak.
So next movie will have
>Inosuke/Kanao vs UM2
>Genja/Tokito/Sanemi/Jimejima Vs UM1
>Mitsuri/Obanai Vs UM4
I don't know whether they'll include Tanjiro/Guyu Vs Muzan or leave it for the next movie. Ending the movie or starting the last one with their meet up would be equally good, but due to runtime constraints, it might be better to do it in the second movie
>>280703260So third movie will be Kokushibo/Muzan/Tanjiro?
>>280703312>KokushiboHe is gone in the second movie, anon. Last movie is all Muzan
>>280703312no it'll be all muzan and technically biwa
>>280703260Next movie will end on chapter 180 probably.
>>280702212I love the part where Giyu finally relaxes in the end after Tanjiro wakes up and talks. Reminds me of various "oh Jesus it's finally over" moments in life
>>280703022Jesus, a movie on top of a super deluxe 26 episode two cour, ufotable really went apeshit
Why did mappa pussy out with Chainsawman
>>280703022>>280703657The gamble really paid off, didn't it? All they had to do was evade taxes. The only problem is all their other projects look like they've been pushed back a decade.
>>280703657>Why did mappa pussy out with ChainsawmanMappa paid for Chainsawman out of their own pockets, no production committee, they did the opposite of pussying out, they bet eveything.
Wait, so at this rate… is this trilogy gonna be the end of it all?
Like, are we seriously never getting another new(I mean final) KnY anime season ever again?
>>280703831>Like, are we seriously never getting another new(I mean final) KnY anime season ever again?You can ask for light novels and gaidens
>>280703766They still took tons of Sony sponsor money.
>>280703831They'll remake it in 20 years, all AI
>>280703831There's obviously going to be TV cuts for movies later on, aniplex won't miss a chance to further milk the broadcast ratings in Japan.
>>280703872Give me my husband Hairo!
>>280703831Everything has to end at some point.
The insane quality it got was worth it.
>>280703831It will end as literally the highest quality adaptation of all time so can't be too mad
>>280703831Same.
I thought this trilogy is till koku and final season is gonna be vs Muzan.
Imagine how long final movie would be.
>>280703936If the last movie is really just muzan... I hope they don't cheap out on the tentacles.
I wonder if
>Inosuke/Kanao vs UM2
>Genja/Tokito/Sanemi/Jimejima Vs UM1
>Mitsuri/Obanai Vs UM4
Is enough to fill an entire movie. Seems a bit too little
>>280704156chapter wise it's more than the first movie
you're probably forgetting how much koku has going on
>>280703260The final movie’s probably gonna need to be like 3 and a half hours long just to fit everything in.
Far as I remember, only stuff like Lord of the Rings or Avengers: Endgame even comes close to that runtime.
Doing this with an anime film feels completely unheard of.
>Me wake up to that wall of text
>>280704543He got deleted, mass spammed again and went to sleep so he's fresh for another shitposting spree tomorrow.
>>280704514I think they'll cut it short and save the volume ending/epilogue for a TV special. On the same principal that Lord of the Rings cut the scouring of the shire epilogue, it's not very movie-like.
>>280703903Who should voice him?
>>280704433Im pretty sure that comes much later.
If Kokushibo gets to one-shot murder someone who should it be?
>>280704660He is surprising resilient.
>>280704433Why did he do it?
>>280704433I have never understood this once in the thousands of times you've posted it
>>280703657Because CSM is dogshit?
>>280704896No, just mentally ill and should have been thrown in an institution a long time ago.
>>280704433Woah! Is this a manga panel? Are they guarding the new master or Nezuko? Holy fuck that is cool! I can't wait to see some awesome fight scene with them, maybe with Urokodaki as well. That's going to be epic. Don't spoil it for me.
>>280704433I don't understand this.
Someone explain pls.
The audio is the most underappreciated part of this adaptation
It feels like the OST never reuses a single track despite having a theme for each character. Mugen Train's OST in particular may be one of my favorites in the medium
https://youtu.be/TbnoDFKxens?si=FqIRVVZo6axTKtsK&t=701
But more than that the single best part of the adaptation, even better than the animation, is the voice acting. Natsuki Hanae's performance is literally 10/10 perfection. It's the role he was born to play
>>280700181hahahaha god damn, thanks for linking
>>280705694KnY, including its TV series, uses a film scoring approach similar to what you see in Disney or Ghibli films — creating custom soundtracks tailored to each individual sequence.
This method delivers a level of immersion that completely blows the typical “recycled OST” system out of the water.
Honestly, I have no idea why more anime don’t adopt the same approach. It baffles me.
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Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba – The Movie: Infinity Castle Arc
Chapter One: Akaza's Return
Box Office Breaking News
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In 34 hours since release,
Box office revenue exceeds 20 billion yen
Audience attendance surpasses 100 thousand people
Fastest ever to break 20 billion yen. This weekend, today’s momentum is outpacing yesterday!
>>280693044Because we don't see shit
Just cut to that moment
I watched that yesterday and my wife Kanao is beautiful even when she's mad
>>280706267There are few OSTs that I believe I have never heard them or at least what I can recall, for example this one
https://youtu.be/sCnAonU2BsI?si=8SW3B_IlPf81AcYF
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>>280706398Do you own any of her figures? I got this one a while back. She has really cute panties, even if they're a little plain
>155-minute runtime
>Japs on social media complaining they need diapers
Have they never sat through a 3+ hour Hollywood blockbuster before?
>>280706588That's my picture
I'm that anon and yes I own almost every one of them. They don't give her panties most of the time after that one
>>280706391Those children the croc sacrificed paid off!
Why do you people derive your self worth from how much your favorite anime movie grosses at the box office or how many copies your favorite manga sells?
>>280684767 (OP)30 BILLION Yen!
That's what, $10,000 USD?
>>280706831Oh hey, it's your picture. I don't have a good camera so I haven't taken any photos. Still one of my favorite images posted in these threads. I've only seen panties on two of the figures from pics I've seen, one of them being the one I have
>>280706851At this point its purely to torment the resident schizo.
holy shit see through world
>>280707232>holy shit see through worldWhere?
>>280707331little snippets of it
https://x.com/rashooxdd/status/1946212761425350738
>>280707802Yes!!!! new crayon shin chan movie!!! Subs when!?
>>280707819also 15 minutes of the akaza fight
https://x.com/fukastylist/status/1946306691714408929
>>280702717humans are weak but have big numbers, their strategy until now was throwing hunters at them until they got the job done. They even say the org was almost wiped out multiple times. So yes demons look like shitters now but you have to remember the upper moons were unchanged for over a hundred years and this is the strongest generation since Yoriichi.
>>280707997Jesus
https://x.com/fukastylist/status/1946344591919370250
Superman Box Office Drop's in Asia Compared to Last Friday
China -94%
Japan -80%
Korea -65%
So much for being Demon Slayer's competition in Japan
>>280704433The new UM5 was supposed to attack but Gotouge kinda forgot
Just watched it.
Yeah, the visuals were absolutely insane — felt more like a full-on visual attraction than a movie.
But I couldn’t help noticing that Tanjiro felt kinda nerfed compared to the manga, while Giyuu definitely got buffed.
It really felt like Giyuu was the one leading the fight, and Tanjiro was more of a surprise-power sidekick than the main driver.
>>280708301well Tanjirou isn't any where near as strong as Giyuu
he needed the mark to keep up with base Giyuu
>>280708301He's always like that though
>>280708301>It really felt like Giyuu was the one leading the fight, and Tanjiro was more of a surprise-power sidekick than the main driver.reread it this was always the intention, Giyuu was the main fighter and Tanjirou was the surprise counterattack
https://x.com/kimetsu_off/status/1946419729557778540?s=46
New poster when?
>>280708168and to think that the entire time Koku had this activated
>>280708554I see the movie is PG13 in Japan, like the Mugen Train was, so Akaza's mangled torso made it in the theatrical cut or it is a scene only the home release can show?
considering Akaza's final attack I hope Douma's statue and most of Kokushibou's attacks have a similar feeling
the only thing that has dissapointed me was the Zenitsu vs Kaigaku fight was kinda hoping that they would zip around the fortress like Giyuu and Akaza did
>>280709024Yeah, I was a bit confused when Kaigaku's first attack was him running at Zenitsu instead of flashing to him.
>>280709024In a way it makes him look weaker which is great. He's not really on the same level as other UM
>>280709463he has the power of an upper 6 he just has no idea how to use it
which could have been better displayed but yeah
just wish this fight moved around more with some more arena destruction
and made each of the other thunder forms more cinematic
>>280709463>He's not really on the same level as other UMKaigaku is on a weird limbo between Daki (pretend UM6) and Gyuutaro (real UM6), even if not quite strong as Gyuutaro he still is a demon with Breathing arts, something that is noted to be strongly difficult to accomplish as explained by Kokushibo.
>>280708554I thought that the new Aimer song was not really good, but seeing this trailer, I think it goes perfectly with the visuals.
>>280706391Should be 2 billion not 20
THIS MANGA ENDED IN 2017. WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL SO OBSESSED.
I didn’t know the manga ended a year after its release
Absolutely glorious thread. The Jeremy seethe is beautiful too. Also, I fucking called it saying we'll get leaks, even at this early stage. Waiting for a madman to capture the entire thing and share it by the end of this weekend.
https://x.com/prophitHZ/status/1946251961604730897
damn
>>280711053>centipede Amazing, also foreshadowing
>>280703831how is it even possible to finish all remaining chapters with only 3 movie length?? it's impossible
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>akaza gets glorious expanded backstory and fight scene
>pic related got fucking nothing and looked more pathetic in the anime
why
>>280711453No one likes Gyokko, but I wish he got his backstory.
Hopefully they do something with nakime's too.
>>280711453Don't worry. He'll come back in the second movie.
>>280684767 (OP)>10 billion>12.6 billion yen>>280706391>20 billion yen>20 billion yenstop machine-translating and start understanding how japanese groups large numbers (it's in steps of 10^4 and then, logically, 10^8)
>>280711453i just think they just had no idea on how to show his second form off
>>280711453Blame the storyboarders and directors who didn't care. And it's so weird too, since Gyokko was animated so well in SSV
>>280707997While I’m glad the fight scenes are ultimate quality, I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t feeling a bit conflicted.
It doesn’t feel like a fight between a Hashira and a demon anymore — it looks more like a Holy Grail War, probably Saber vs Berserker or some shit.
Hashiras are supposed to be just strong humans, not superpowered beings. Their power level should be more or less on par with Baki characters at best.
Of course, I get it — from a marketing perspective, having them tear through an open-world-style Infinity Castle in flashy 3D sequences is what draws crowds.
But still... I can’t shake the feeling that Ufotable — along with KnY’s explosive popularity — has turned it into something it was never meant to be.
>>280711715Now THAT's a chatgpt opinion.
>>280711715most of the destruction is coming from the demons(and Gyomei)
>>280711053Douma was literally playing with her
she can't outspeed him
>>280684767 (OP)This looks exactly like what happened with shinkai's weathering with you. It had a way bigger opening than yourname and ended up making nowhere near it.
>>280711837No one really expects it to do like the first movie.
But it's still going to do amazingly well.
>>280706391Stop Grok (or any machine translation without nuance). It's 2 billion yen, not 20, rofl. The source you're citing is being stylized for dramatic effect but are still numerically correct, 2 billion yen = 約 $12.5M USD. Grok likely saw "20" and spat out "20 billion" without understanding the full monetary context or applying common sense, because if it had made 20 billion yen (~$125M) in 34 hours, it'd be rewriting the laws of physics.
Anyway, it's a monster start and fastest to 2B yen ever is no joke. But again, my point stands: it's not Mugen Train 2.0 unless it keeps those legs moving week after week, and it won't benefit from the open field Mugen had.
Hell, the 2 billion yen is textbook frontloading. This 2 billion yen in 34 hours isn't the flex some people think it is, it's the warning sign I've been screaming about from day one:
>massive start =/= strong legs2B yen in 34 hours is absurdly fast. But that's exactly the kind of spike you expect from:
>national holiday>IMAX/4DX saturation>merch-bundled tickets>fanbase marathoning it like it's a national sportAll of that concentrates earnings in the first 24-48 hours. That's not sustainable, and definitely not organic. If we do the math, if this pace somehow continued, you'd expect ¥2B every 1.5 days and that's like ¥10B in just over a week. But you know it won’t hold that because Day 1 was artificially juiced. Mugen Train slow-burned into ¥40.4B over an entire year because:
>no competition>no distractions>empty cinema schedules>repeat viewing wasn't just fan service, it was the only thing to doInfinity Castle doesn't have that luxury. Jurassic World, Kamen Rider and even Fantastic Four are all looming and they all want their spot on IMAX/4DX, especially Jurassic World that's actually build for 4DX unlike Demon Slayer (it's 2D).
Why don't /v/ watch anime anymore?
>woke up again
>another day to be obsessed with the movie he's not obsessed with
>>280711783And yet she won. It’s utterly absurd, it shouldn’t have happened, but she won. As usual it was just a mumbled excuse as to why (uhhh…poison and arrogance and stuff). Why wasn’t this supernatural poison not deployed until that moment? Look, shut up and take the panty shot victory will you this is a shounen that’s trying to wrap up. In “reality” she shouldn’t have even been able to FIGHT with him let alone win.
>>280711971He's kny biggest fan
>>280711996>And yet she won.The Insect Jobber didn't win anything, lmao. She tried acting like a main character, then Douma gave her a reality check that she's nothing more but a side character and she started crying like a little bitch, got consumed, and then got written out of her own battle by Inosuke and Kanao, a comic relief character and another side character.
A fight is about who's left standing. Nothing else. She didn't live to see her victory, thus, she is a loser.
>>280711996>>280712193Imagine seething so much about KINObu you have to samefag kek
>>280708615According to leaks yes
that'll be enough to make it R rated in the US probably though
>>280712279It looks fucking great too.
>>280712251Nah, she got bodied, started crying, got eaten, and disrespected mid-digestion. Insect Jobber didn't win, she didn't finish the fight, and she sure as hell didn't survive it, thus, she's a loser. Lmao
Just finished watching it this morning. The detail and camera work in the Infinity Castle were insane — felt less like a movie and more like some kind of immersive visual attraction.
Pretty sure the folks at Ufotable are dying to kill off Nakime.
>>280711837Correct. I'm getting a very deja vu feeling from Weathering With You.
>Your NameOpened modestly, not crazy
But held like a monster for months
Strong word of mouth, cross-demo appeal, grew organically
Final Japan gross: ~¥25.0B
>Weathering With YouOpened way bigger than Your Name
Huge fan anticipation + media hype
But less crossover appeal, weaker legs
Final Japan gross: ~¥14.0B
Big opening, but couldn't sustain the wave
That’s literally what’s happening with Infinity Castle vs Mugen Train.
>Mugen Train Huge opening, but spread over soft-capacity days
Unmatched, ran for a whole year
General public + fans
Regular screens, minimal inflation
COVID vacuum
Self-contained, rewatch friendly
>Infinity CastleExplosive frontload legs
TBD, but likely sharp falloff
Mostly fans, maxed early
Bloodbath summer
Premium formats spammed
Too long, fatigue and burnout
Mugen Train - Infinity castle
6PM - 631,480 - 684,263
>>280712421>fatigue>says this when not even kimetsu in 2020 brought in as many people on opening weekendFor a franchise you described as
>everyone is tired ofIt sure is drawing in more people from the get go than the first one.
>>280712449>>280712451let him seethe stop replying to his bullshit
No matter what he says, what he copes about
The facts are
>it'll be among the biggest anime movies ever, likely top 5. making hundreds of millions>manga is the best selling in terms of per volume and is still selling. >merch is selling like hotcakes>we're going to get 2 more high qualtiy films. and he'll seethe about that for years>kimetsu created unbreakable records for itself, both manga and anime and movie AND merch sales Literally no matter how he copes, he lost. and his future cope already lost. he can only seethe
>>280712421>Premium formats spammedHow mad you are your
>muh screensexcuse got thrown out of the window.
>>280712449>>280712474The funniest part of your samefag meltdown is how you're proving my entire point while thinking you're owning me, lmfao.
>It sure is drawing in more people from the get go than the first one.That's exactly what fatigue looks like in a franchise that still has a loyal base but has burned its general appeal. I'd lay it out for you simply: Yes, more people came on opening weekend. But that doesn't disprove burnout. It proves frontload (look up that term). Hype train fans cram in early. But you already shot your shot. You don't sustain without the mainstream showing up after.
Mugen Train didn't hit ¥40B by flash-mobbing Day 1. It stayed in theaters forever, got rewatched by normalfags, grandmas, couples on dates, salarymen, and people who don't even watch anime. That's legs, baby.
Infinity Castle is:
>We dumped the entire fanbase into Friday, Saturday and Sunday, and now the general public is like, 'Wait, there's three movies?'>muh top 5 movie ever!!Sure. By yen. Which is in freefall. Top 5 in local currency doesn't mean top 5 globally or culturally. Right now, 1 US dollar buys more bragging rights than ¥160 worth of cope. You're about to have:
>One of the highest-grossing anime films in Japan>But only a mid-tier global performer by USDThose are not mutually exclusive. But underage fanboys like yourself can't process nuance.
>s-still selling! still popular! merch is hot!!Never said Demon Slayer was dead. That's a strawman so dried out it could catch fire in a microwave. What you said was:
>This is peak again!What reality says is:
>This is a strong but narrowing peak.You don't break through the ¥40B ceiling just by having raw fans. You need everyone to show up: normalfags, outsiders, anime casuals, repeatedly. And this ain't that.
>funny
he says while crying and seething for a full day and having a meltdown before sleeping because the based janny nuked him
kek
>>280712574>>But only a mid-tier global performer by USDAnd anyone should care about that because... you are mad at it and spend every waking moment posting about it, in 15-20 minute intervals god knows why because you start reposting hard the moment you are rangebanned and deleted.
>>280712574No one takes you or your schizo rants seriously after this
>Like I said, I do whatever the FUCK I want when I want. And I rule this thread with an iron fist
>>280712659It's so fucking funny, dude thinks he's in a war or something and that all his essays are doing something and affecting anything
kek
>>280712670He does affect something. Everything he said so far turned out to be wrong. It's like the powers that be or whatever is trolling him
>>280711956They don't even play games anymore.
>>280712624You're still not refuting my core argument, because you know you can't. I've laid out:
>The frontload vs legs distinction (accurate)>The weakened yen impact on global box office prestige (true)>The Mugen Train miracle circumstances vs Infinity Castle’s engineered spike (undeniable)And what's your response?
>"Haha meltdown janny seethe rangeban iron fist KEKAROO"That's not a rebuttal. That's just someone screaming into a pillow because they can't read a box office chart without Googling what "yen" means. You're completely incapable of addressing my actual points, so you're trying to meme me into submission.
>And anyone should care about that because...Doesn't matter what you feel, I'm still 100% correct. You're just mad because it hits a nerve. Infinity Castle is...
>Absolutely one of the biggest anime films in Japan, no doubt about that.>It is not going to hit global dominance on the level of Mugen Train.>Has no China release>Is bottlenecked by a collapsing currency>Is frontloaded like a fire saleThat's not an insult, it's just economics. But if I point it out, apparently I'm "crying and seething." You really are just a child who knows nothing.
>you are mad at it and spend every waking moment posting about it, in 15-20 minute intervals Nah. If anything, you're mad I won and you want to pretend I didn't. And I'll keep posting, because that's called consistency. Meanwhile, you refresh the thread just to scream “kek” and samefag your way into thinking you're right.
>>280712670>dude thinks he's in a war or somethingNo. You're the one taking Ls like it’s trench warfare and then acting like you're too cool to care while responding to every single thing I write and even tracking my activities across platforms like that affects me, lmfao. It's not war. It's accountability and you can't handle it because you're just a child.
poor little schizo
reading "Japan economy" in google didn't really affect infinity castle and now has to cope
I'd love to know what happened to you three months ago that made you go back to seethe intensely about kimetsu again.
>>280712881This retard is an OP/DBfag, sadly.
>>280712895>This retard is an OP/DBfagHe isn't even so, he thinks they're mediocre slop yet vehemently spends days seething about kimetsu (because it made more money? and that somehow makes him mad?) as if he gets anything out of it. he's like a self aware cringey disney adult
>>280712749>Everything he said so far turned out to be wrong.Surely? Because:
>I said Infinity Castle would be frontloaded. It is.>I said ¥15-20B domestic ceiling. It's currently at ~¥2B after 2 days. I'm still well within range.>I said the USD conversion would cripple its global bragging rights. Literally backed by every major tweet and media outlet, including the one (You) posted.>I said it wouldn’t beat Mugen Train globally. There's still no China release. $500M is not getting matched.>I said it'd be a box office event, but not a generational phenomenon like Mugen Train. And it's tracking exactly that way.You're calling it all wrong because you wants me to be wrong, not because I am (you know I'm right). That's called copium-induced reality distortion.
>It's like the powers that be or whatever is trolling himThis is loser talk. This is what someone says when they can't logically refute my point but need to believe I'm somehow cosmically cursed for your ego to survive, rofl. It's like saying, "You’re losing because fate said so!" Which is just a loser's way to say, "I don’t have a better argument, so I'll pretend reality itself is my wingman."
>>280712850Cool story, dipshit. I never said Japan's economy would "affect" ticket sales. I said the yen's collapse affects international perception and USD-based comparisons. That's a currency value argument, not an economic depression claim. The value of those ¥20 billion yen (if it even gets there) is now $125M, not $185M like in 2020. That absolutely matters for global charts, rankings, and prestige.
Even the tweet you posted and thought was a "W" showed Infinity Castle "broke Mugen Train’s record" with less dollar value. That's my point in a nutshell. I didn't Google Japan's economy for fun, I used basic macroeconomics, and you're so allergic to reality you interpreted that as a witchcraft ritual. Again, you're nothing more but a stupid child who knows nothing.
>>280712937this movie is easily passing $600M and there's nothing you can do about it
You know gaslighting doesnt work when you type everything out right?
The Infinity Castle pamphlet sold in theatres after the movie premiere confirms that the production of the film took 3.5 years.
the 7 billion yen rumor cost for the trilogy and 2027/2029 dates are looking plausible
>>280712985>the 7 billion yen rumor costNot bad, cost recoup in a weekend for each movie.
>>280712970Mugen Train didn't make it into the Academy Awards despite Aniplex/Sony so desperately wanting to be validated by Hollywood and get that Oscar, thus, it will never be a masterpiece. Miyazaki won an Oscar, twice. And Shinkai got nominated.
Demon Slayer was laughed out of the building. Your shounen slop will never be anything but just another shounen slop that appeals to the lowest of scum.
>>280712996Yea they'll get insane ROI. 10x+ their money easily
>>280712970Based
Kimetsu no yaiba is the greatest manga ever
Gotouge is a genius
>>280685695Remember when it would take years
>>280713041>a whole month left until mononoke fire rat is available6 fucking months.
>>280713019Your samefaggotry won't make it true, no matter how much you try to scream it to the clouds. Tomino already name-dropped the three 3 most important mangaka: Osamu Tezuka aka the Father of Manga (Astro Boy), Akira Toriyana aka Tezuka's successor and the man who made the most popular manga ever (Dragon Ball) and Eiichiro Oda aka the man behind the greatest selling manga of all time and soon the greatest selling comic in human history (One Piece).
Demon Slayer is just another trend. And when the anime ends, the franchise ends.
>>280713060Demon slayer sold the most per volume
therefore it's the greatest by your popularity salesfag metric
sorry you lost
>>280713060>who made the most popular manga ever (Dragon Ball)Then why isn't it the most sold manga ever?
>the greatest selling comic in human history (One Piece).probably the most volumes turned into toilet paper too.
>>280713060>Demon Slayer is just another trenddamn such a long trend it's lasting over 6 years after the manga ended.
Demon slayer is really the GREATEST
>>280712978Not even close, rofl. I'd math this out again, slowly, so even your emotionally unstable Demon Slayer faggot ass can process it through the fog of IMAX fumes and Shounen Jump-induced brainrot:
>Japan box office (domestic)I'd be very generous, if it legs it out and hits ¥25B, at the current exchange rate of ¥160/$1, that's ~$155M.
>Overseas (optimistic scenario)Let's say it does well in Korea, Taiwan, Southeast Asia, and gets a semi-decent US release. Maybe that pulls in another $70-80M max.
Total global? You're looking at $220-230M in a dream scenario. And that's being kind. So where the fuck are you getting $600M from, lmao? Magic? The spirit of Rengoku whispering in your ears? Crunchyroll NFTs? That number would require either:
>A massive China release (not happening)>Western breakout success beyond anime fandom (never happened outside of Mugen Train)>Or an exchange rate miracle (lol, good luck with that, yen's hitting record lows)
>>280713060Every single post you make is a reformatted post with needless shit tacked on.
Not beating the chatbot allegations.
Jeremiah Wasabi Fudge! Did I catch you sleeping during your KnY seethe shift? Expect one less hot pocket in your paycheck.
>>280713070>Demon slayer sold the most per volumeAnd One Piece sold the most copies, therefore it's the greatest. One Piece holds the Guinness World Record for most copies sold by a single author, a record that was surpassed only by... One Piece itself.
One Piece is Michael Jordan, Demon Slayer is Jeremy Lin. One viral season, one trendy explosion and no legacy. Every single manga on Jump, including your beloved Demon Slayer, only exists thanks One Piece saving that magazine from dying after the collapse of Dragon Ball ending. Oda is also in the top 10 highest selling authors, surpassing even the creator of Harry Potter. Gotouge is a dime a dozen, who the public don't care about while Oda is the most powerful mangaka in Japan and a celebrity.
>>280713151Do you just have a stack of posts to repost? Genuinely curious.
>>280713151Nah, sellnig per volume is the better metric
Kimetsu is the only one to break the 6m,7m,8m,9m barrier
You can cope and seethe about overprinted total. I can print my 100 volume shit 100000 million but i can't sell it 10 million per time
Even Twilight sold more than 15 million per book. One Piece can't even break 4m even with overprint kek
>>2807131519.5M copies sold per volume is much more impressive than +500m after 27 years and +100 volumes.
>>280713200>>280713231Overall sales >>> muh sales per volume.
So cry more. One Piece sold 523M copies which is double the sales of Demon Slayer, Jujutsu Kaisen, ChInsaw Man, My Hero Academia and Black Cloved all combined. And last time its sales were updated was back in 2022, so as of now, estimates are well over 550M+. It outsold Batman's entire lifetime worth of 85 years and became the second best selling comic ever. And it just needs another 50 million to outsell Superman, the best selling comic in human history. That's also why Oda also has net worth of over 200M. He makes money from both Toei and Wit Studio. Gotouge doesn't, he doesn't get a single penny from the anime and was only paid as a one-time deal of $10K for Mugen Train. He's not getting any money from the Infinity Castle movies.
Your baby series is nothing more but a small fish in a big pond.
>>280713304You can cope but the fact is demon slayer is the best seller of all time and is a masterpiece
>>280713304>Overall sales >>> muh sales per volume.No?
>I sold 1 boock for 500>I sold 100 books for 6 eachOne author is more successfull than the other.
Also
>a one-time deal of $10K for Mugen Train. I knew your arguments are just reformulated through chat.
>>280126058
>>280699911>Shin Angyo OnshiI always knew that Gookshills are brainless since no one every try to bring up this series, it's always us
>>280713324You can cry, but the fact is that One Piece is the greatest selling manga of all time (won't ever be surpassed) and it just needs another 50 million copies sold and it'll be the greatest selling comic in human history (won't ever be surpassed).
Oda owns One Piece and he's an industry by himself. Gotouge doesn't own Demon Slayer, he's just another ex-Jump mangaka whose IP got adopted by a production company and used to sell popcorn and plushies.
>>280713349Nah demon slayer is the most profitable and popular manga ever
proven by box office
Facts over feelings lil buddy
Look at this autistic op npc that needed a lifetime of volumes to be where it is right now
and struggling to reach 1 mil copies to sell per volume
Meanwhile KnY author broke records with few volumes and only needing few years to tell the story.
>>280713349>and used to sell popcorn and plushies.That's literally Oda, so cucked by his editors he turned chopper and all his forms into plushies
>>280713336Nope. Success in literature = total units sold, sustained demand, cultural influence, and brand value. Not price per copy, especially when price isn't set by the author in manga.
And in manga, all volumes are priced the same, this isn't Sotheby's auctioning a signed Gutenberg Bible. It's mass-market serialized entertainment. You're trying to imply:
>D-Demon Slayer selling fewer books at a higher rate per volume means more value or prestige!!And that's not how manga or publishing works. Value in this space isn't about price per copy, it's about reach, cultural footprint, and market consistency.
I'd flip this analogy against (You). One Piece is like selling 100,000 albums over 25 years, topping the charts every year, influencing the entire music industry. Demon Slayer is like one viral single that hit #1 once because of a massive marketing push and timing, and then the artist retired immediately. So guess what, faggot?
The legacy artist is ALWAYS more successful, because they built something that lasted.
>>280713360Still can't refute Oda's legacy. Still hasn't proven Gotouge's writing is better. And now you're inventing economics to cope with One Piece’s domination
Meanwhile:
>Oda has out-earned and out-sold nearly every author in literary history>One Piece is about to surpass Superman and become the best selling comic in human history on record time>Gotouge got a $10K paycheck and disappeared from public view
>>280711053>Tengen can barely keep up with UM6>Bug can momentarily outspeed UM2Fastest Hashira, what a joke
>>280713420nah kimetsu is more profitable and successful
>>280713431>"S-Shinobu blitzed Douma because she was faster than him! It has nothing to do with him being a lazy faggot!">conveniently forgets how Douma casually yanked Kanao's sword out of her hands with her super-vision and skill succeeding the one of Shinobu's (her own words btw)>conveniently forgets that Kanao and Inosuke landed a couple of lucky hits on Douma (wow they definitely in the same league of speed!)Shinobu is shit tier and you have to deal with that.
>>280713420>The legacy artist is ALWAYS more successful, because they built something that lasted.In fact, people will remember that one song more than a mediocre artist's whole outpuit.
> and market consistency.OP doesn't have this, consistent decline, if anything, held together with duct tape by shueisha overprinting the shit out of it.
>>280713420Demon Slayer started, peaked, and ended — and still made more money than One Piece ever has at its “peak.” No amount of Gear 5 clown faces will change that.
>>280713420That's like saying that ff series is more successful than, say, GTAV.
Popular, sustained series just aren't it compared to super smash hits that leave them in the dust and every time there's a new release they break the industry and everyone avoids them like the plague.
>>280713447One Piece got a live-action TV show backed up by Hollywood (unlike Demon Slayer who's still seeking Hollywood's approval), who put a LOT of deep money into it. It has a budget of of $200M and each episode costs $25M to produce, making it more expensive than...
>Game of ThronesWhich costs $6-15M to produce.
>The MandalorianWhich costs $12-15M to produce.
>Stranger ThingsWhich costs $6-12M to produce.
>The WitcherWhich costs $10M to produce.
One Piece is more profitable in the long-term while Demon Slayer flatlined itself hard. When the anime ends, the franchise ends.
>>280713526nah sorry not sorry kimetsu is far more popular and profitable
>>280713556Cool. Where's the $200M Demon Slayer live-action series then? I'll wait.
why would you want a shitty live action anyway?
animation is the best medium
>>280713624kimetsu is far more popular and profitable doe
>>280713641JImbo's case? Perceived popularity.
OP's series wishes it made that much money, or the MHA movie he propped up.
>>280713644Still waiting for that $200M Demon Slayer live-action though.
>>280713641Live-action, especially one backed up by Hollywood, is the final form for anime and where you REALLY know you made it into the mainstream. Hollywood put a LOT of money into One Piece because they saw gold, meanwhile Demon Slayer is desperately trying to get Hollywood's validation with Aniplex trying to submit Mugen Train into the Academy Awards but were rejected and laughed out of the building, rofl. One Piece graduated from anime. Demon Slayer is stuck in the anime ghetto. Might get a live-action, but a shitty low budget one made in Japan with shitty Japanese acting.
>>280713706kimetsu is far more popular and profitable ?
>>280713624>most expensive show per episode>yet it looked cheaper and was more cringe than a CW showThat HAD to be some money laundering scheme