Chapter 5: The Photograph

2, 3, 4 >>280602315

Hey OP

>>280696075
Meido!

>>280696086
she certainly is.

>>280696102
>window at 20
Jesus, man. What the FUCK happened to him

>>280696044 (OP)
I'm scared to pick this up, stories about maids always end up hurting me

>>280696118
a good girl, and a good meido

>>280696133
It was the 19th century anon. He probably died in the Crimean War or something

>>280696291
ded

>>280696375
lucky lad

And that's it. Incredibly unlucky day.
Did you have a nice dream?

>>280696461
Thanks, OP. I did not dream today.

>>280696136
I like this old lady

>>280696118
Very nice mistress

>>280696461
Emma is an amazing girl
I had a weird dream but I do not really remember it
Thanks as always OP!

>>280696461
I fear for Emma...

>>280696461
Thanks.

>>280696375
I like Emma's long face

>>280696407
>When he was still alive
Important notion, since in Victorian times people took fascination with photographing the dead too. Dressing them up, posing them, snapping shots.

>>280696461
Thanks OP
I dreamt I was talking about Regular Show with my sister, for some reason

>>280696727
is your sister single

>>280696670
Her face isn't long, it's perfectly proportional.

>>280696880

>>280696954
welp, I tried

>>280696213
ANKLE

>>280696291
NOOOOOOOOOOOO

The Full Moon watchalong will start in about 2 and a half hours. We will watch the new episode of CITY half an hour before that

>>280696102
>widowed at 20
>never remarried
Interesting that she would choose the uphill battle when age 20 wasn't that old. Wasn't marriage mostly an economical thing in this era?

>>280696213
some dangerous curves on that maid

>>280696375
Jonesbros, I'm feeling good about our chances.

>>280696461
Thanks OP.
Maybe I did have a nice dream, but I don't usually remember my dreams.

Just passing through. Cute maid. Thanks for the dump OP.

>>280698494
Maybe she's like that one hag from Anne Shirley and couldn't love another

>>280696461
I had a dream about the Denny's where no one else had skin, again. It's happened twice now so I'm getting worried there may be something deeper to it.

>>280700091
Go

Sexo with maids

>>280699792
Whether there are any children matters too I think.
Two ancestors of mine were widowed very young in the Victorian age, but then again they were poor with young kids. For them iirc it was either give the kids up and support only themselves or find a man who would marry and take her kids too.

why does this style remind me of pokespe manga? same artist? or assistant?

>>280696461
Thanks, anonsito.

>>280703512
I don't think Mori Kaoru was involved in the pokespe manga

>>280696375
>>280696442
What a powerfully smug woman.

>>280701265
Lesbian sexo with maids

>>280696461
I dislike having dreams, cause they tend to give me the annoying feeling of not wanting to wake up and that melancholy longing all day afterwards. Gotta get my life together, I suppose.

>>280698494
It happened sometimes

>>280696375
she loves him indeed

>>280696461
I dreamed I was a vampire on a cruise for some sort of religious tour (?) and Isaac Asimov was there. I wasn't part of the tour, but I turned into a wolf and bat to go into town to buy them some supplies they needed.

It was a very odd dream.

Not gonna lie, I'm a bit disappointed that Emma is the hottest bitch around and not a jimiko. It takes away from the realism and her struggles when she could just abandon maidhood and marry a rich prince.

>>280710238
this is a manga made by a woman for women.

>>280710328
It's a seinen.
Even so, most often that not the protagonist in female oriented manga isn't the hottest bitch around.

>>280710435
>It's a seinen.
That doesn't mean anything nowadays

>>280710435
>It's a seinen.
yeah, nope. it's a shoujo marketed as seinen to retards like you.
>Even so, most often that not the protagonist in female oriented manga isn't the hottest bitch around.
mc-s in shoujo have literally a line of hunks telling her how she's ACTUALLY more beautiful than popular bitch. women dont want to read about self-insert being mid, self-inserts must have a line of people fawning for them. see rumiko's works or anything else, really. the mid or ugly self-insert is NEVER actually ugly, she just was in need of a new haircut, a nice dress or stupid shit like that.

>>280710545
They did a bad job at marketing then because only women and retards like you talk about the show.
Shoujo MC aren't popular from the start, you said so youself. They are introduced as grounded cuties and then they start attracting bishounen over time. Women don't want to self-insert as hot bitches, they want to self-insert as plain janes who are secretly hot bitches. Emma IS already popular with men.

>>280710737
>they want to self-insert as plain janes who are secretly hot bitches
and that's what emma is. being popular is never a problem for the average femal reader, this is YOUR problem.

>>280710776
No she's not. You have clearly never talked to a woman in your life, much less to one who reads manga.

>>280710824
i have a sister and i have read my share of shoujo. plain jane is not a rule, there's many shojou with popular mc from the start, see kodomo no omocha or ayashi no ceres. actually akane or kagome also have many suitors from the early start, so they never are treated as plain. because that's not what women like. in a shonen the mc must be badass and in a shoujo must be beautiful and popular with the right people. there's also evil people that wants to bring down our heroine, but then they always lose the popularity war. that's how it works.

>>280710873
>a shonen the mc must be badass and in a shoujo must be beautiful
I agree but the shounen mc usually starts as the underdog. Emma being able to become a princess by chapter 3 is like Naruto being at hokage from the start.

>>280710873
Is just sister cute though?

>>280703512
>pokespe
First time I have heard Mori compared to Satoshi Yamamoto, but I guess you could call it a classic adventure manga style of drawing. This kind of early Mori reminds me more of Ashinano Hitoshi (YKK).

>>280711029
emma is still an underdog, she's just a maid after all. having all the hot nobles fawning over her is no different from naruto having the nine tail fox in him. they're both fated to win, this is what the mangaka tell us to.
>>280711046
yes but she's married.

>>280710435
>It's a seinen
So a manga made by women for women

>>280711545
Pretty lady

>>280710497
What about 25(?) years ago?

Bump

>>280711046
You'll fuck someone's sister one day. I believe in you.

What if Emma went to page 1?

Did mori's hands recover?

>>280717878
She has released a few chapters since then I think.

>>280718312
That's good.

>>280717878
What happened to her hands?

>>280696044 (OP)
Chapter 6: The Two Watches

>>280724428
Hi OP

>>280724536
Selamat pagi

>>280724483
Kick him out

Hey OP

>>280724664
'ello

>>280724473
MEIDOS

>>280724719
Unbearable

>>280724596
>reading

I want to procreate with Mori Kaoru

>>280724731
No customer confidentiality, this guy

And that's it. Reading porn in the library? Scandalous.
What book would you recommend to a maid?

>>280724624
nice hat

>>280724719
god she is cute

>>280724776
Thanks OP
That kind of book

>>280724776
Thanks, OP.

What is this manga about? I really like cute girls with glasses.

>>280725036
It's about a cute maid with glasses.

>>280724550
>not eating
Old lady, don't you dare start dying.

>>280725036
English person With glasses

>>280724596
lol now that's a nice condition to wait in

>>280724776
Thanks OP. I think the old man is going to join Ms. Stowner as wingman.

>>280725056
>>280725901
Perfect but what does she do aside from working and breathing oxygen

>>280724596
Horrid colonial trollops coming here and stealing our men!

>>280724653
>>280724669
Harrowing that this is all people had to jerk it to

>>280723074
She lost them. They're gone. Nobody knows where. It's all so very confusing.

>>280724428
I guess her sprained ankle was fatal.

>>280724762
>the average life span was fifty years
I guess I live in nineteenth century england.

>>280724683
It's true. Strong athletes can stay relatively fit well into their 80s, but the moment they stop moving, they'll die. It's still better than dying 10 years prior because you hadn't moved in the last 40 years, of course.

>>280727960
Fractures and falls can be deadly to the elderly. Lots of healthy grandmas and grandpas go south quickly after a fall.

>>280723074
Her love of intricate details combined with her deathgrip negative ergonomics pen grip style

>>280724731
>panel 1
lol, she saw the photobook and he knows it huh.

>>280724776
I hope the old woman doesn’t die, she’s nice.
Soredemo Machi wa Mawatteiru
Thanks as always OP!

>>280724776
Thank you for posting.

>>280724776
Thanks, anonsito.

>>280696044 (OP)
yes

>>280725036
Glasses girl but she's not cute.

>>280726982
kek

>>280734624
So, just glasses girl?

this maid lady
she seems kinda familiar

>>280737601
Maid Yomi is literally Tattsun.

>>280724473
i wonder how they talk in the original, is it just really informal japanese or do they speak in a period dialect?

>>280724483
>>280724495
That's stupid

>>280724750
>luv goethe
>luv maids
>luv me mum
>simple as

>>280737601
Why is she so fat?

>>280696461
For a few months when I was 21, I would have the same dream every night, in which I was tied down and mechanical devices cut my arms off and sewed useless rubber imitation arms in their places, which I would flop around helplessly before waking up.

>>280724669
Literally just Emma in a different outfit and bedroom eyes

>>280737601
What if she gets a William?

what the fuck why is there an Emma thread? Don't get me wrong, I absolutely adore this manga, to the point I've shelled out for the whole manga collections and blu-ray, but why?

>>280740614
It's a manga dumb, because why not on a modern /a/ filled with spam, netflix anime and shounenshit generals?

>>280740622
*dump

>>280740622
>manga dumb
frankly, I am big dumb so that's why I'm hella into Emma. Kaoru Mori is goat fr defo planning to get The Bride's Story for sure

>>280740614
If you adore it so much, why ask? I've personally been itching to see any discussion on this manga for so long that I'll take anything i can get. Do you think it's lacking something to be worth discussing for /a/?

>>280740737
good question. I have to say it's a surprised expression more than anything. Imo, considering the age of this manga, any point worth discussing such as class segregation and classic English romance or how modern romance can learn something from this is well exhausted. I'm sure someone can and will come up with something new, however, I'm yet to see so far

>>280724596
>last panel
He won

>>280740511
Me

>>280724596
Based

>>280724653
>victorian exhentai

>>280724776
Thanks OP

>>280726576
She can climb the everest solo without oxygen

>>280726982
You also had French postcards

>>280725036
A manga attempt at an upstairs downstairs drama but without all the bells and whistles

The author takes pains to be period accurate but takes a few freedoms with the setting that her Japanese audience would have no idea about

>>280724596
GIWTWM

>>280724695
That's important.

>>280741483
>instead of having to bypass a sad panda there's a ruffian employed to stand at the door refusing entry to anyone not correctly dressed.

>>280724596
it should have been me...

>>280740614
Because /a/ is healing.

>>280724596
Dusky...

>>280742906
They should make Mori God and put her in charge of making women from now on

>>280743443
She has great tastes.

I particularly love long, black hair and legs.

Bump

I should definitely try this IRL, I'm sure I'll get a GF this way in 2025.

>>280696175
that sure is an accent

>>280696291
stairs, the bane of the elderly

>>280696882
for a horse!

>>280711058
That's what I was about to say. Felt very YKK at times.

>>280724459
a memento of mori, if you will

>>280724495
I like the scantily clad indian sluts he carries around

>>280724653
ye olde porne

>>280724731
zawa zawa

>>280740614
We're reading it together, one chapter per day.
Not a hard concept to grasp, is it?

>>280742906
Incredible rump

Chapter 7: The Father, Richard Jones

https://youtu.be/biGHCa9Ljbw

>>280696044 (OP)
Very early chapter today.

>>280748694
Comically early

early as fuck

And that's it. Now it's starting to get dramatic.
Would you marry a filthy peasant?

>>280749459
It is a time of major societal change
I am a peasant myself
Thanks as always OP!

>>280749459
Some backwards farm girl gone in to domestic service is far preferable to filthy N*rman nobility wife.

>>280749000
>coming out ball and she doesn't have a dance partner prepared
Disgraceful

>>280724596
Poor guy gonna get raped!

>>280724711
Well, this is awkward.

>>280749000
Cute
Shame she's in the wrong manga

>>280696475
No new experiences to compress.

>>280749108
She lives

>>280749196
Kek

>>280749334
Actually Britain is comprised of three countries

>>280749386
>buying and/or reading
She approves of this daily

>>280749386
Not even the author gives him mercy.

>>280710238
She is eventually trounced by a whole flock of German maids in that regard

>>280749433
Oh shit I've had this saved a while and it's probably Mori
Must be from Shirley

>>280749459
Thx mate.

>>280749405
Oh that's where that's from

>>280749459
Thanks OP
The old conceptions of aristocracy no longer hold up. If she has a noble soul she is suitable

>>280724773
He didn't disclose her lending habits. Just what she shared herself.

>>280749220
Did she do a mistake?

>>280751612
I think he's being metaphorical of the differences between the classes. Not his fear of Scottish girls.

>>280752457
He explicitly stated that
I was making a funny

>>280751612
Yes, and both those upper-class characters would have know that, of course, but viewed it in a different way. To their class there was less difference between a Scottish Lord and an English Lord than there was between either of those and a farm labourer, woodsman or miner. And at this stage in history that latter group of people would still have been conscious of their own local, regional culture and a identity before their national one (particularly in the more remote rural parts and in the most working class areas of the industrial cities). Whereas the nobility were all of one culture regardless of region and viewed the populace as first as crown subjects together (but separated by class), nationalities second and probably didn't think much at all about the lower classes' regional identities. This was most applicable to the actual old nobility and less applicable to the newly created rich mercantile upper class, but these groups eventually moved in mostly the same cultural circle.

>>280752737
He explicitly stated that
I was making a funny

>>280749072
I would take her for a daughter wife

>>280749361
Cute, unfortunately she has the Herculean task of going against Emma so her life is forfit

>>280753292
Oh man.

>>280751745
There's only like 1 that is hotter than hair down Emma, well 1 maid and her mistress.

>>280753292
>>280753253
She's a brat!

>>280753445
I can think of three maids. The mistress is cheating.

>>280753495
Which are the three? I admit it's been like a decade since I last read this.

>>280753253
She's too old to start raising that way

>>280749000
>dancing without lace gloves
*inhales*
HUSSY

>>280752783
Work on it harder.

>>280751612
At the time they still had Ireland as well, right? Or are you counting Ireland and not counting Wales?

>>280754533
The UK and Britain are two different things. Britain is the island, the UK is the state
The UK then was comprised of four countries (England, Scotland, Wales, and Ireland), and is currently comprised of four countries (England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland). Then there's the various crown dependencies and overseas territories

>>280754533
British Isles = Geographical entity of Island of Ireland & geographical entity of Great Britain (the largest of the British Isles islands consisting of Wales, Scotland, England + small islands belonging to them)

As a political entity Great Britain = Great Britain (the geographical entity of the big island + the little ones belonging to each of the 3 countries on it)

As a political entity United Kingdom = Great Britain (the political entity and the geographical entity + whatever part of the Island of Ireland the UK happens to include at the time, used to be all of Ireland and is now only Northern Ireland)

>>280749000
Sorry kid but meido stomps

>>280749072
>boarding school for the lower class
Are they sure it's not one of those domestic service training schools in disguise?

>>280749459
Thanks OP
>Would you marry a filthy peasant?
idk, would she marry an even filthier peasant?

Oh my, early as fuck today

>>280749000
Cutie

>>280749072
Imagine NOT wanting her for a wife

>>280751447
For now :V

>>280749196
froge

>>280749250
MARRY AND REPRODUCE

>>280749459
Thanks, OP.
Dunno. I REALLY like ojou-samas.

>>280749459
Thanks!
>Would you marry a filthy peasant?
I am a filthy peasant!

>>280728042
Average life expectancy of males in modern Russia - 65 years
Age of retirement, barring special circumstances - 65 years.

Memento Mori

>>280748934
the reaction every indian wants when he meets a white woman

>>280759688
Showing off my bone temple to cute English meidos

>>280759688
my nigga Mori...

>>280756804
Not maid enough

>>280749459
Thank you for posting.

>>280748669
>OP 410
What happened to OPs 1 through 409?

>>280749386
I understand the purpose of the Indian girls completely.

>>280749000
Is this the designated loser?

>>280749032
>second panel
Interesting to consider in light of where this all goes. Mom seems to want to get her poor daughter out of their house and is fine, perhaps even prefers, an unremarkable man from a non-peerage family. Given who sets the standards for that in her house, it's not surprising.

>>280755656
It's hard to imagine now, but there was an era where generally educating everyone was a big deal. Very progressive stuff, and it crossed over coincidentally with businesses wanting a better trained pool of workers. But the was still a big moral push for it and that shouldn't be discounted, whatever else came of it.

>>280763576
Jones isn't unremarkable, he's the heir to a very wealthy trading company. The whole "noble family want a wealthy son-in-law / merchant family want to buy into the aristocracy" trope is exceptionally common.

Seriously though, where are the new Bride's Story chapters? I just want to see Mr. Smith get married.

>>280749000
she deserved to win. ten times cuter than the broad maid.

>>280749361
why must I like losers so

>>280749386
cute alice

>>280749459
Thanks, anonsito.

>>280752381
Yes, I believe she was supposed to put the teacup on the table. This is probably related to the notion that maids are always supposed to make their presence invisible, even when in the same room as guests or their masters, so making herself visible, let alone touching one (even by accident), must be breaking an unwritten rule.

>>280764976
>noble family want a wealthy son-in-law / merchant family want to buy into the aristocracy" trope is exceptionally common
Wasn't it because gentlemen as a rule weren't allowed to earn a living wage and had to subsist solely on the profit of their investments? If they made bad investments their fortunes diminished while the new blood businessmen were flush with cash.

>>280749459
Thanks OP
I don't think I would be opposed to having an arranged marriage. As long as she's cute and not mean to me, I'd be fine

>>280766389
Not so much investments as land rents which weren't as profitable compared to going into business so inevitably land would be mortgaged for ready cash in order to maintain an aristocratic lifestyle which led to an accumulation of debts which would then lead to having to get some wealthy commoner to marry into the family to pay off the debts.

>>280749000
I wonder how old everyone is? Eleanor would've been 16-18 here, William would have to be around 20 right? And Emma was said to be "quite young", so possibly still a teenager as well?

>>280767891
Realistically she'd be 14 or something. No way she's 18.

>>280768014
They don't debut that young.

>>280768069
It wasn't unusual at all for a girl to debut at 14.

>>280768338
Perhaps earlier in the 19th century, but certainly not when it's near the end of it? If anything, Vivian might be around 14 at the end of the manga, and her hair is still down, skirt only ankle length.

>>280765690
Funny, I always interpreted that as Emma listening to the conversation about Jones so she forgot to letting the cup go when the guy reached for it.

The anime second season was so dumb

>>280768873
You're probably correct. If Emma wasn't supposed to hand the saucer to him, he wouldn't have had his hand out to take it in the first place.

>>280767891
>Eleanor would've been 16-18 here,
Very likely 14.

>>280769769
I agree that she seems to be in the 14-16 range, which seems a touch young for a late Victorian marriage. I guess Mori is taking some liberties since neither family seems to be that pressed for time.

>>280696407
Was flipping through my copy of Anything and Something and found this. Good thing comick had it available

>>280752381
She's staring at his face because dad.

>>280767891
Eleanor is defo 17-18, Emma is younger than Tasha, and we know Tasha is about 23-25 so she's definitely around 21-22 ish

>>280770128
you fucking lucky bastard, I want that copy

Eleanor is clearly younger teen (13-16), her petite frame and innocence make it clear.

Is this the maid fetish manga?

>>280771857
It's over 10 years old, the pages are all yellowed now

>>280772047
is a very cute historical love story

and yes, the mangaka has a maid fetish

>>280696156
Not this one.

>>280771779
http://www.katetattersall.com/coming-out-during-the-early-victorian-era-debutantes/
I don't know why anons keep insisting she has to be younger. The age was generally 16-18, or even older, particularly later into the century. She's definitely coded more high school aged than middle school.

>>280772478
Because it makes her cuter. I'm sure Mori would agree.

>>280772068
A quick comparison pic with the first vol of scribbles

>>280772548
Oops

>>280772566
I need to buy this someday. The original Japanese copy too.

>>280772566
I always regret not buying more of the manga and other adjacent books that I liked, and from mangaka I liked, when I was younger and had disposable income.

Also I'm quite shit how a lot of this stuff is printed on paper that's of such low quality.

Is Emma kissed goods?

>>280749000
Cute!

>>280749386
This is my first time reading a work of hers, but I already love her.

>>280777106
>I already love her
Oh no, wait till he gets to Otoyomegatari.

>>280777824
>Otoyomegatari
Before the Emma storytime had even started, I had already placed that one in my "to read" list. I don't mind age gaps, if that's the implied issue here.

>>280771911
Wonderful.

>>280779279
Imagine the lewd behind closed doors

>>280782436
You should really read bangaihen.

>>280774081
Emma is a mouthhussy

>>280784520
This single panel made me read the manga. It was really cute but I felt like something was missing.

>>280784520
>walk past
>stop
>pat head

>>280696044 (OP)
Bump for my unironic GOAT.

>>280788004
Why would she be your ironic goat

>>280788067
It's more about the term GOAT which I find retarded, but she really is my GOAT. If I had to pick a favorite mangaka it'd be her.

>>280788067
If she were a baaaaad artist?

>>280696044 (OP)
Chapter 8: At the Crystal Palace

Hey OP

>>280789308
Hi OP

>>280789318
>>280789324
Yo yo yo

>>280789340
demon slab looking kinda funny

>>280789361
That's the demon slab in summer

>>280789385
>uncommon for someone of her social standing
There should be a law mandating the very opposite

>>280789546
Emma would look beautiful pregnant

>>280789569
yeah, by me

>>280789587
Cutie

>>280789658
>already making plans for next year
I like this guy

>>280789556
I wonder if that guy complaining about the class disparity will ever recant. I doubt it.

>>280789679
Quick thirty minutes

>>280789713
How rough and rowdy

they have a perfect excuse to have sex now

>>280789722
>I stayed after closing time and the place is closed
>this can't be happening!!

>>280789739
I HAVE TO GET OUT OF HERE
SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME
I'M TRAPPED WITH THIS CUTE MEIDO

>>280789754
>the Fullmoon certainly is bright

>>280789798
Emma, you can't take your glasses off

>>280789798
They're gonna be out all night and people are gonna think they had sex

>>280789828
>>280789844
oh my, that was quick
based Jones

>>280789844
Hooray!

>>280789828
>only kisses her when she takes the glasses off
filthy cretin doesn't deserve her

>>280789872
She's cute enough that I wish she was in a different manga so she could win

>>280789884
don't worry I have claimed dibs on her too

And that's it. Wonderful.
Are you a history nerd? A real fucking dork?

>>280789885
Just cruel

>>280789896
Thanks, dork. No.

>>280789906
It will be an excellent experience for all parties involved.

>>280789587
Wow Selhurst Park looks amazing now

>>280789844
Holy FUCK

>>280789896
Lovely kiss scenario. I'm sure everything will go well now
It's one of my favorite things in the whole wide world
Thanks as always OP!

>>280789896
Thanks OP
I enjoy it recreationally to a normal extent

>>280789896
Thanks OP. You could not pay me to care about anything that happened in the past.

>>280789866
glasses get in the way...

>>280789933
Name your top three historical periods

>>280790013

>>280790047
Early Modern Period and Early and High Middle Ages

>>280790047
Your mom's, your grandma's, and your great-grandma's. Interesting fact: Those periods all ended once they met me.

>>280789441
need to have a couple of drinks with Al
he looks like good company

The romancing just seems so sudden and forced upon, and even more-so in the manga. The anime at least adds a little but more to the Crystal Palace date.

For those whom haven't yet seen the show. There's moments where Emma nestles close to William after getting scared by dinosaur diorama, and another moment where they loose eachother in the crowd. Not to mention There's more dialog when they're stuck overnight.

The manga has a little bit of trouble expressing Emma's love for Will. Or at least, why she ends ends up accepting his love over the rest.

>>280790047
i like the heian period and mori actually drew some heian period scribbles, i think it would really neat if she wrote a heian romance next OR drew a manga adaptation of the tale of genji. i hope otoyomegatari isn't her last work since its going to end at 18 volumes going by her korean interview from last june

>>280790469
why do you feel its forced?

>>280789647
This page is UK imperialism in a nutshell.

>>280789884
>>280789888
get in line, there's me first.

>>280791299
most successful empire for a reason

>>280790606
It's probably just me nagging about pacing, but from Will meeting Emma, to walking her home a couple times and then buying her a handkerchief, shouldn't obligate the story to say "oh Emma's in love with Will now".

Emma is a poised and diligent maid with her responsibilities. She also has a narrow view of the world due to her upbringing and isn't the whimsical type as if she was influenced by fairy tales and romances. Falling in love, and falling in love ny first sight should be a foreign concept to her.

>>280764976
I meant unremarkable as an individual, at least in polite society (this appears to be how people in general think about him, though as we see this perspective is skewed). Obviously his money helps, but it feels notable to me the mother was really pushing this, given how it all shakes out.

>>280791475
oh okay, well that's fair considering how early we are in the story but sometimes feelings are like that and to be fair emma did point out that william seems to enjoy just talking to her and isn't pushing her for a response which makes me believe the other suitors have only gone after her beauty which she sensed and/or have been pushy in their approach and emma is pretty timid and reserved so that might have turned her off completely.

>>280789626
Roma invicts

>>280789844
MY HEART

>>280789573
This granny's a real one

>>280789872
You have to excuse him he was busy plowing cute meidos, maybe she can come by another time

>>280789828
>>280789844
this was fast

are there any actual high class men from this time that actually married maids? i love this manga but the whole thing is HIGHLY unrealistic desu

>>280789844
Our boy

>>280792439
Marry? Almost certainly not. I wouldn't say never, but it would've been very, vanishingly rare. Fool around with? Definitely, even in terms more "serious" than just taking advantage. This will color, though it's very rarely discussed this way explicitly, how people react to this relationship as it gets revealed to them. Most people understand these things happen, but don't think it can actually go anywhere serious, which is where the drama comes in.

>>280792439
Jones isn't nobility so it's a bit less unrealistic.

>>280792587
yeah i understand that, i love emma, its probably my favorite romance in manga but there are unrealistic things about it. a literal prince proposing to a maid would never happen, just like william picking emma over eleanor would never happen lol

>>280792755
hes still from the higher class

>>280792083
From >>280789427 we see that Eleanor is a third daughter which is basically excess baggage (won't inherit, no transfer of title, etc. so there's nothing to attract a nobleman), with the end result being that there's no harm to the family's reputation if she marries a commoner, while the family stands to gain by having a rich son-in-law.

>>280789819
>>280789866

>>280792835
>picking emma over eleanor would never happen
undeniable.

imagine being williams father and having your family accepted into high society without being nobility and you have the chance to marry into a family that comes from nobility through your son and there's a beautiful young blonde high society that wants said son but hes wanting to squander it for a literal maid..

>>280792439
Maybe some goof third sons if the father was too soft to disown him over it.

>>280790469
Romance has never been Mori's forte. She didn't really improve much in Otoyo either, I only really care for Pariya's.

>>280789546
>>280789587
I understand the sentiment here and am pretty much all for it because it's so sweet. But this does make me wonder about nerd things. Realistically, she would've altered her dress to keep up with the changing silhouettes, though it's entirely possible that it would no longer fit her anyway had she gained weight. The other thing is that the corset Emma is wearing would be different from the one Kelly wore in the 1860s(?), the bust was be lower and softer, vs the tits getting pushed up and flattened later on. I don't think it wouldn't quite fit right. There's also the question of: would it be worse to wear a plain, modern dress, or a nicer one that's 30+ years out of date?

>>280793345
>Romance has never been Mori's forte.
bait?

>>280792335
Was it?
Better this than the entire manga being blueballing

>>280793236
Have you seen the maid though

>>280793599
i love emma but shes a brunette with bad eyesight while eleanor is a blonde with perfect eyesight and light hair has always been coveted throughout history

>>280793754
I think we just have to chalk it up to William being an eccentric in the classic Victorian sense of the word.

>>280793858
>being an eccentric in the classic Victorian sense of the word.
just like his mother

>>280793345
Speaking of corsets Mori has six pages about them(and five about fireplaces) in Anything and Something

>>280793536
Not bait. You wouldn't recommend her works for the actual romances in them, would you?

>>280794168
I'm surprised she didn't include the Pretty Housemaid design. It was quite popular, and Emma would've likely worn one.

>>280793236
Isn't that what mistresses are for?

>>280794392
>You wouldn't recommend her works for the actual romances in them, would you?
I think she writes some of the best romance in manga. Whenever I want to read a good manga romance that doesn't overstay its welcome, I re-read Emma. I also really love the main romance in Otoyo despite the age-gap.

>>280794168
I'll never understand why they went so far with corsets. I'm sure that letting it out a centimeter or two on each side would make the waist look much more natural, while still being very vavavoom, and the corset would be more comfortable as well. Instead, they went with a pencil thin waist and ruined the reputation of the device forever.

>>280794652
you dont want to look natural, you want to look beautiful.

>>280794392
Is that one of the books she mentions or something else?

>>280794717
>you dont want to look natural, you want to look beautiful.
Funny how we've circled back to this. Eyelash extensions, filler and botox galore, buccal fat removal, BBLs, unrealistically white teeth etc.

>>280794392
If someone said "a romance drama manga" I'd likely say "Emma."
That might just mean "Kaoru Mori's stuff is memorable" and "romance manga are forgettable" for me tho.

>>280789828
>>280789844
>takes off her glasses
>gets kissed
It's that simple

>>280794851
since being beautiful is subjective and affected by both culture and trends it always produced questionable practices, like tall wigs, fake glossy black teeth, those lip discs of that african tribe, the white plaster of geisha and so on.

>>280789896
Thanks OP
>Are you a history nerd? A real fucking dork?
Yeah, it's probably my favorite subject. I love it

>>280794652
The waists weren't pencil thin though. Corsets generally shaved off around two inches of your waist, which is the same amount if you squeezed a measuring tape around your waist. Fatter/softer women would get a higher reduction, and tightlacing is like fancy high heels today: usually only for special occasions.

>>280794769
Different book, though I'd be surprised if that design wasn't mentioned in any of the references she used. The main difference is that the boning doesn't extend down to the hip, where there is instead less rigid cording for ease of movement. It's very popular as a modern design too.

>>280794592
>>280794899
The actual relationship between Emma and William is unexciting, most of their drama comes from external forces. I'm not asking for misunderstandings or will-they-or-won't they or anything, I'm just saying that a romance where they fall in love with each other at first sight and just kind of find each other pleasant, isn't an interesting one.

>>280789896
thanks, OP. I spent last weekend volunteering at a historical reenactment, so you bet I am

>>280795286
>I'm just saying that a romance where they fall in love with each other at first sight and just kind of find each other pleasant, isn't an interesting one.
Well that's fair, people like different dynamics. What romance manga do you like?

>>280789504
blush, whore, blush

>>280789830
Then they might as well do so. Get it out of the way. They are each the other's top choice anyway.

>>280795402
A lot, but I would say that Cross Game is one I that hold in high regard. You get to see two dishonest people navigate their budding feelings for each other while processing their shared grief, and their closest moments are told in the usual subtle Adachi fashion. It also has one of the best confession scenes I've ever read/watched.

>>280792335
To go on a date, you must accept it as a possibility. Otherwise it's just a day off.

>>280795776
Not my favorite Adachi work, but yeah Cross Game is good.

>>280795826
The only other Adachi works I've read so far have been Touch and Mix, I'll get to H2 and his other non-baseball manga later. Touch deals with grief better and Mix is a better as a spokon, but so far I do think Cross Game has the best actual romance.

>>280796024
CG doesn't contain my favorite Adachi romance, but as I said earlier, people like different dynamics! I wonder if an Adachi storytime will ever happen on /a/. I feel bad talking about another series in a story time so let me post something Mori related.

>>280791475
She's not indoctrinated into thinking it takes years either. How long do you think her mistress dated her husband before marrying him at 18?

>>280796195
>dated
did they even date back then?

>>280789896
Thanks, anonsito.

>>280789885
a tragedy in the making
>>280789896
Thanks OP. I'm as dorky as the worst of them.

>>280789896
Thank you for posting.

>>280797889
I... I need more of this.

Wait, this chapter...
WTF?
Were a man and unwed woman just alone together?

>>280801369
I like how you're implying that the man can be married in this situation

>>280801369
neo puritans are on the same level of the worst coomers
KYS

>>280793228
>despite the age-gap.
>despite

>>280801709
Victorians were the original neo-Puritans.

>>280799994
then you are fortunate, my good anon, for these form a set of three

>>280794431
>the Camilla strat
Yes, but Emma is too good to accept that arrangement meaning Jones would lose her if he tried.

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>>280802437
>>280797889
>>280799994
There's a rule 63 swords & sandals webcomic called Cerintha. Complete w/ Greek gayness and sexism against men.

>>280789844
It's not that fast. People are just too used to stories dragging it out.

Do not take mistresses.

I had a dream once where I was a son in a rich houshold in Victorian times and there was a main that was like an nee-san and I married her. Best dream I ever had desu

>>280789486
Cute boy.

>>280789896
No, I'm a dork appreciator.

>>280795337
is this image part of the k-on jeopardy nightmare?

>>280807855
Yes, during the CITY daily quiz arc. I still have the other 29 history ones I made on my desktop

>>280801877
Very true.

>>280811697
brown, uh, teen maid pussy?

>>280814931
>improvement.jpg

>>280817008
Come back!