Watch Frieren. They got wonderful storytelling, well executed jokes, characters full of personality, beautiful enviroments, and especially Frieren who is the BEST main girl of the entire anime industry. If you hated itthe you're all fucking idiot who can't comprehend the emotions.

>>280713914 (OP)
this but unironically

>>280713914 (OP)
No thanks, I'll watch an anime that's actually good, like Solo Leveling or Dragon Ball Super

>>280715032
Shounenfags are the worst.

grannyfucker arc is misery
macth namek is misery in the manga
the native isekai storytelling is miserable
tournmanet arc is the author clearly running out of fumes as he cant do yet another village in the woods quest + flashback

would rather an aura spinoff

>>280715115
Would rather spinoff where stark goes off the journey to rape every female in the setting

Waifushit of the season.

>>280715115
She's dead, move on

>>280713914 (OP)
Love this silly elf

>>280713914 (OP)
>>280715346
I just want to have sex with short, flat elves, frankly.

>>280713914 (OP)
Mushoku Tensei does everything Frieren does and does it better. and Rudy is a more likeable main than Frieren also.

>>280713914 (OP)
>Watch [moeSHIT for pedos]
No, I will not.

>>280715115
warrior mage mage warlock party
wtf?

>>280715032
I watch both Solo Leveling and Frieren.
They are both good for different things

>>280715032
Based

>>280715839
>Rudy
Literally who

>>280713914 (OP)
>Watch [EYECANDY SNOOZEFEST]
No thanks, i dropped it after the first few episodes

>>280715053
Frieren IS shonen

>>280715839
>mud shit poo crapsei

>>280713914 (OP)
Elf cute.

>>280715304
fuck you i won't do what you tell me

>>280713914 (OP)
>well executed jokes
I kind of disagree with this. Granted I am only 12 or so episodes in, but the jokes are just alright imo.
The anime seems to be focused more on relationships rather than emotion imo. Like they don't try to play with your emotions but more so show kindness and love through healthy relationships- which are achieved by controlling your emotions. At least that has been my understanding of the themes of the show so far. It is pretty great. It isn't my favorite anime but I've been enjoying it so far. Except Fern is kind of annoying at times but she's also overly protective of Frieren so I can kind of see why she behaves like that.

>>280713914 (OP)
>beautiful enviroments
but that one is true, isn't it?

>>280713914 (OP)
>kek
>>280715839
>kek
that was a strange harmony of dumbposts

>>280716758
frieren is SOL thats why shonentards hate it

>>280718713
SoL is just its genre.

>>280719068
shonen is a genre whether you like it or not
demon slayer is shonen, your lie in april is not

>>280715839
>isekai
Commit suicide.
>>280715860
>moe
Consider seppuku
>>280716480
>i watch solo levelling
The "manwha" ended a long time ago and the story goes to shit so kill yourself.


You people are pathetic. Anime becoming mainstream ruined this board.

>>280713914 (OP)
2000s fantasy anime were better.

>>280713914 (OP)
I like the part where she gets fooled by the mimic

>waifu show but it's actually good
They really cracked the winning formula

>>280715839
Don't start this shit. I love both of these series. You direction brain niggers are the antithesis of any discourse

>>280719179
The reddit spacing really sells this.

>>280713914 (OP)
Will she finally do something in this arc? I feel like she's been mainly a spectator while things have been happenign around her.

>>280719158
Shonen is a demographic. Demon Slayer is a battle shonen. Yotsuba is a SoL shonen.

>>280720785
I mean that's what she does in other arcs, analyse the situation, other characters take some of the spotlight for a bit and then she steps up and comes up with the solution in the end

>>280719687
where are the waifus?

>frieren is not shounen
i'm so tired, bros...

>>280721193
Hanging out at my place

>>280721150
In the golden land arc she had a big fight with Solitar and reversed the curse on the city. She was the driving force, with Denken arguably sharing the spotlight. In the time travel arc she pulverized that demon. In this arc she hasn't really done anything.

>>280715839
enjoy your fantasy harem slop

>>280721280
Eh, in Golden Lands she spent most of her time reading memories or recovering from the task. Fern and Stark were fighting Solitair while Frieren was taking a nap.
Frieren fighting Solitair and dispelling the Golden Lands curse is the climax of the arc, the current arc hasn't gotten to that point yet, but probably will pretty soon

>>280721406
>Fern and Stark were fighting Solitair while Frieren was taking a nap.
Their fight was very short and they were about to get their shit pushed in before Diagoldze saved them. Frieren's fight was longer and the clear focus, same with Denken vs Macht.
>the current arc hasn't gotten to that point yet, but probably will pretty soon
It hasn't gotten there but I hope she will have a big part to play, as the protagonist and the character's whose journey I'm following. Ideally they will give some spotlight to Sein as well. He more than deserves it.

>>280721667
She's been playing detective the whole time and the people they are up against are trying to erase her masters legacy. Of course she will have a big part to play, it's her story.

Frieren is boring because it's too fucking safe. The characters and story follow the same rinse&repeat formula every chapter. The facial expressions are minimal. And the life lessons are almost childish.

>>280721667
>>280721797
These two pages give you everything you need in terms of what to expect
Frieren has been super cautious the entire arc, mainly because she fears for Fern and Starks safety so she's mainly been analysing the situation and trying to figure things before the shit inevitably hits. But when it does she will be all in, not for Serie's sake but for Flamme's

>>280721946
It's not boring because it is "safe" but because it is generic.

>>280721946
>it's bad because they aren't gurning like in One Piece

>>280721946
>The facial expressions are minimal.
I agree wit you, which is why the anime is much better, as they can covey a lor more emotion through voice and tone, as it was especially the case with Frieren.

>>280722115
>But when it does she will be all in
I want them to reach a point where some shadow warriors are on the verge of killing Fern or Stark, and Frieren is forced to kill a human.

>>280722126
>it is generic.
So what? Originality does not have some intrinsic value. A compelling story and characters done right, can have a huge impact, and Frieren is a perfect example of this.

>>280713914 (OP)
>Frieren
>wonderful storytelling, well executed jokes, characters full of personality, beautiful enviroments
KEK

>>280721321
thank you, I will. It's better than bland fantasy slop.

>>280713914 (OP)
You Shitter and Redditards will never convince me this show isn’t mid as hell

>>280724143
Congratulations anon, you're special, just like you hoped.

>MC is an autismo sperg
SHE'S JUST LIKE ME!

>>280724208
I honestly wish I wasn’t

>>280723494
>A compelling story and characters done right
as opposed to done generic, you mean?
>and Frieren is a perfect example of this.
easily impressed anon

>>280724295

141 when

>>280715268
But stark is the worst character

>>280728789
Comes out Wednesday

>>280728843
Fern*

>>280728961
Spoilers when?

>>280729394
Apparently they're out already on Baidu

>>280713914 (OP)
Freddit

>>280729578
Ahem

I was oneshotted by Frieren's cuteness.

>>280723372
This series can’t even explore demons correctly. Why would Frieren kill a human and be expected to change anything about her character?

>>280730672
>explore demons correctly
lol

>>280730672
>Why would Frieren kill a human
Because she is responsible for Fern and Starks's lives, and explicitly said she might end up having to kill some of the shadow warriors.
It would also be an interesting avenue to explore her character:
- Did she kill any people before?
- If so, how did it impact her? (he know killign demons did)

>>280730395
I wasn't. It was right there in ep1.

>>280721228
Where's Serie?

One day Methode will be mine. Nothing else about this series matters.

>>280730909
Chill out, Sein

>>280730830
This is one of the greatest original short scenes ever. So fucking beautiful and calm.
The one who thought off it was a genius.

>shounenfags in here seething over peak
clean em up tranitors, dump them off in /v/
>>280729668
2016-2020 looks like the worst run in anime history in this image what the fuck is this list

For any manga readers. Do we get any summoner type mages? Like someone who can create a Bird-lizard hybrid or something?

>>280731613
>Frieren's soft seinen like Hunter x Hunter.

>>280731807
There's a chapter about a Flamme's creation, but I'm not gonna spoil anything.

>>280731868
She makes me a soft seinen with how cute she is

>>280713914 (OP)
shut up faggot
übel > flamme > methode > serie > sense > frieren > fern, who agrees

>>280731982
>ubel first
opinion discarded, not even funny as a shitpost you're one of those retarded zoomers who follows trends. Sense is the best girl by far Ubel is bottom barrel whoreslop.

>>280732052
>ubel is bottom barrel whoreslop
IDGAF about her being a whore
all women are queens
it's 2025 bitch

>>280731885
Sounds cool, thanks.

>>280732052
literally nothing is appealing about sense
you are a faggot in denial

>>280732201
>nothing appealing
>literally hottest anime only character
She's only toppled by the nu-demon researcher that will appear this season.

>>280730830
at least post it at a decent resolution
>>2255222

>>280730830
at least post it at a decent resolution
>>>/w/2255222

I have high expectations for the anime. Macht is just a better Lugner but they’ve already done right by Denken

>>280713914 (OP)
Brilliant and touching first episode followed by kind of dull and meandering...well, everything else.
All characters have emotional range of bricks, a few good fights and a lot more less good fights, zero narrative tension, plot kind of doesn't matter.
One of the more obvious examples "I had a great oneshot idea that really took off but how the fuck do I continue it now"
Looking forward with morbid curiosity just how far you can propel a story purely on the first episode and good production values.
Given that Solo leveling exists, I expect the answer to be "forever"

>>280721228
ALL of them are built for Stark

Who gives the best footjob, Frieren or Serie?

>>280732597
I have high expectations for the soundtrack.
I demand something like this for the Macht's battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mByDcrNSV0&ab_channel=Shirrako

>>280732975
Serie of course
Frieren walks too much

>>280733060
Serie walks barefoot, I think that balances it out.

>>280713914 (OP)
Well I dunno about all that but I do like that image

>>280715860
>ti
>tp
Db is moe, sweet tea

Am I crazy, or does Serie come off as jealous of Frieren sometimes?

>>280734552
I think Serie is meant to represent what Frieren would have been if she never decided to change.
She might be jelly because Flamme changed her too, but she never had the courage to accept that change.

>>280732975
Probably Serie.

>>280713914 (OP)
the comfiest

>>280730942
She's more into something cute anyways, so Frieren, Serie, or some unfortunate shota would be on her sights.

>>280734552

Is there a reason why she loves chests?

>>280736318
gacha addict

>>280736318

>>280736318
Sometimes there's really neat stuff in there.

>>280730672
>explore demons correctly
There's nothing to explore beyond setting their motive and method, which is clearly and simply explained.
Demons are an antithesis of all life. Perfect mockeries. Like a virus in the shape and behavior of a person.
In-universe, demons are simply nothing else. The characteristic they mock are only window dressing for plot.

Not my fault you can't pay attention.

no BL, no watch

Of course it has been mentioned in other threads but it has to be done again. I greatly dislike Übel. Her schizo "Lmao, scissors < hair" breaks a solid magic system.

>>280713914 (OP)
I like how Fern doesn't feel anything when she kills Daemons.

If Frieren is flat, is Serie stacked?

>>280737466
Serie is stacked in mental illness and a desire to fuck humans.

>>280715115
>character from one episode
>not even most interesting one episode character in the series

yeah no

>>280715115
I'd like to fuck Aura's ass while I make her make a smug face because I control her since I have more mana.

I'm at episode 6, when it starts getting good?
It's so slow and boring.

>>280737862
>.t shounen only

Drop it and go do your 5th watchthrough of Slop Piece.

>make story about a mature topic of growing from loss
>make it slow paced, relying on a mature emotional understanding of people's meaningful interactions
>some skiddo pants shitting 19 year old xomes along
>I dont get it its boring!

1982 Blade Runner was boring to me, when I was 9. Now I can't stop watching slow paced 1960s western films.
Frieren is great, but you have to have the life experience to understand why. It just won't be seen for its meaning by someone who doesn't.

tl;dr eye of the beholder, matter of persepctive, etc. If you hate it you're probably just young and cranked out on gas station pills

>>280737466
The anime didn't give her the booba she has in the manga, I consider this one of the greatest crimes. She does have a better body by far though

>>280713914 (OP)
Frieren Season 2 when

>>280737549
based villainess dominator

>>280738589
January/26

>>280715839
Frieren doesn't have a pedo ojisan masquerading as a young boy and trying to rape underage girls

>>280738729
It can't come soon enough.
We need time travel to watch it now

>>280739035
Enjoy other anime in the meantime. Dandadan is good.

>>280715839
>Frieren
very good, a masterpiece
>Solo Leveling
boring garbage generic slopa
>Mushoku Tensei
it started good, but then it turned into something worse than Solo Leveling, don't watch it

>>280721946

> Minimal expression

It's great. The voice actors are able to really shine, and there are still some subtle expressions which convey emotion well enough.

> Life lessons childish

Listen sonny, you're too young or too bitter to get them. While IDK who the author is, there's some genuine good story telling and exploration of themes on mortality and relationships.


>>280736318
Anyone who's ever once opened something very rare in a lootbox/chest/gacha/etc. in a game knows how that feeling is able to cloud better judgment

>>280715839
this shit is even more boring than frieren and THATS a fucking achievement

>>280738238
I would have said drop it at the end of ep1 if it didn't grab you, but since you're there go for ep 8

>>280717939
Yeah, lowering your expectations rather than treating it like a masterpiece seems like the way to better enjoy Frieren. It's much more of a "turn your brain off" type of anime than it's contemporaries.

>>280739235
>friendren
>dandandelion
levelling alone too amirite

>>280741234
>It's much more of a "turn your brain off" type of anime than it's contemporaries.
Contemporaries such as?
People make this strawman of Frieren as if it's trying to be deep or complex. It's not. It's failry simple in its themes, characters and plots, but it's effective nonetheless.
However I would not tell people watching it to turn their brains off, oterhwise they'd miss little details such as the sour grapes spell.

Hop in

Frieren is great, the overrating it gets from obnoxious fans is not.

i literally cannot think about or watch frieren without becoming very sad, and i don't know why. the entirety of the first season i watched it with this utterly dreadful, hallow feeling in my chest that never went away.

>>280741958
lets fucking go flielen

>>280742289
That's a bit surprising. The first and a half episodes can be downers, but the rest of the show is fairly optimistic, about enjoying the little moments in life.

>>280742563
the worst moment for me personally was with old man voll. that episode actually broke me and i had to watch it piecemeal over the course of an hour

>>280742575
Old man Vol is a great episode/chapter
Also funny how one of the few times you see Frieren get actually pissed at someone it's towards her dementia dwarf friend

>>280713914 (OP)
can't, in the anime they all have these stupid bean-eyed faces
manga is better anyway

>>280715115
>most popular jp fanfic
https://syosetu.org/novel/317306/

>>280715115
>>280742803
Total Demon Wife

>>280740078
Does anything happen in Frieren?

>>280713914 (OP)
I find the anime boring, pacing is way too slow, I dont mind slow pacing animes but Frieren is just too much.
I do enjoy the manga a lot more, I recomend it over the anime.

Toho wins if you watch Frieren, Mushoku Tensei, CatCat, Puniru, SpyXFamily, UmaMusume and all the other popular shows.

>>280742934
The dream is having no more dragons to slay, only mountains to climb.
Or to put it another way, everything important already happened, and we're living in the fallout.

>>280744028
The manga has all the meh and mostly none of the visual qualities tho.
I mean, I read it from the 1st chapter, I even started with the lolduwang TL (picrel), and still keep reading it to see where it goes.
But it frustrates me and I kinda hate when people that don't know better praise it up to the heavens.

>>280744489
>Your future is beyond my imagine.
Still amazes me.
Did he mean that she'll live without being molested by him? Did he mean she'll never score? Was it foreshadowing of the horrible time travel arc?

>>280744546
>Did he mean
He's calling you a retard for reading an AI scanlation

>>280744082
>Toho wins
Well TOHO actually knows what's needed to make a successful anime. Not afraid to invest in their bigger IPs where other companies just seem to be doing the bare minimum and then wonder why so many others never take off.

>>280744811
I don't think you got that

>>280737476
Serie is just an autistic elf.

>>280738816
>Frieren doesn't have a pedo ojisan masquerading as a young boy and trying to rape underage girls
Not really doing much to counter his argument, are you?

>>280744811
Mate you'd want to translate that as
>The future holds more for you than I could ever imagine
Or something along those lines.
The AI translation gave you the meat of the intention, you just have to clean it up into common parlance.

>>280746385
>not really doing much to counter his argument, are you?
NTA but anime like that are gutter trash for effete pseudointellectual manchildren like you, so it's actually a really good counter.

>>280742803
i can barely understand it with google

>>280741958
Sounds like fun.

>>280747258
I was inferring that overt lolicon MCs are based but you really had to jump to some wild fucking conclusions huh.

>>280741958
Weeeeee

>>280742743
That's a good point, she almost never gets frustrated. Even when Aura mentioned Himmel it pretty much bounced off Frieren, but this case it was different.
>>280742797
>manga is better anyway
Not in this case though.

Frierenfags are the Mormons of /a/.

>>280713914 (OP)

>>280713914 (OP)
>itthe you're all fucking idiot who can't comprehend
Most literate Frierenfag.

>>280750924
not really

honestly the definition of demons in frieren isn't far removed from a psychopathic or at least sociopathic human
the main difference isn't in the attitude
it's just in the physical strengths and magical abilities
but the people running this show seem to not want to play humans like that because then the lines would blur too easily and that destroys the narrative they're trying to set

>>280736318
It's something she doesn't have.

>>280752502
It's an alegory for autism. Autists should be screened for like they do down syndrome babies and they fetus should subsequently be aborted.

I like the way Fern says "furiiren-sama" :)

>>280755227
>22 years ago
>Alucard rambling about "JUDASU PURIESTO"

>>280755701
FASTER THAN A BULLET

>>280753197
k

Himmel spent a lifetime simping over frieren, but in the end it will be kraft who plaps her cheeks to ensure the survival of the elven race

>>280753197
Lol. Autism is superior to whatever retardation you have

>>280753197
Autism is legitimate mental retardation. Hands flapping, shit all over the walls, impossible for them to be anything close to a well raised downie.
"Autism" is a person who prioritizes physical reality over human social bullshitting.

One is a real affliction the other is the general human species' aversion to being called out on their fake faggotry.

>>280713914 (OP)
Frieren cast Ultra Shrink.... on me!

>>280756941
I wish it was even that. Between native isekai protag celibacy and the elves always dying out cliche, you can bet nobody is going to put cake in that oven, whether Frieren or Serie

Spoilers are up. I'll try to get to them when I have a chance. For a small preview -
Frieren is eating a lot of cake and says Sein has tested it for poison so they can eat as much as they want.
Fern suggests just striking first and killing all the shadow warriors, but Frieren talks her down. Fern and Stark dance again.
Kanone is under orders to not do anything untill either the association or the shadow warriors start something.
Clematis encourages the other shadow warriors to enjoy themselves to blend in.
Iris and one of the others split for the group and are headed on a collision course for Ubel and Land. Ubel is teasing Land about "looking for her reins."

>>280752502
>onestly the definition of demons in frieren isn't far removed from a psychopathic or at least sociopathic human
Minus the part where they feed on humans.

>>280760614
Thanks anon.
Why is Frieren eating a lot of cake if she knows shit's about to go down?

>>280760614
>Nothing happens but fanservice
Thank you for the 7month wait Yamada-san

>>280760614
Frieren owes Sein a dance

>>280760244
>you can bet nobody is going to put cake in that oven, whether Frieren or Serie
Unless they have a spell that can give them the lust of a human, they're pretty fucked in that regard. And Serie is probably worse than Frieren when it comes to not recognizing someone's advances.

>>280760614
>Frieren is eating a lot of cake
Holy kino

>>280760614
>>280761299
How fucking hard is it to get Frieren to have a casual dance with Sein?

>>280761421
take away her cake

>>280761590
Fern should do her job and eat all the sweets.

>>280760614
>Frieren mentioned before that she's interested in the enemy she's facing and what power he has, since he can envision killing Serie
>Next chapter, as she's eating cake she gets invited to dance by none other than Lowe
>Frieren realizes who he is but she uses the see-through clothes spell to know he's not hiding any weapons
>They begin a slow dance while Lowe tells her about his plan, all while in the background the set pieces are being set for the major fight

>>280760614
>Fern suggests just striking first and killing all the shadow warriors, but Frieren talks her down. Fern and Stark dance again.
Why is Fern like this?

>>280762199
She is “based” and “red-pilled” as the kids would say

>>280762199
Because the bitch has no self-control.

>>280762199
the tight corset is making her antsy

>>280762871
>Because the bitch has no self-control.
We noticed.

>>280760244
>muh fighters unstopable at short distance, muh assassin wank
>Serie just whips out a lightsabre at the one-eye fagget and BESTS HIM IN SINGLE COMBAT
I know what I would write to make the series based

>>280765917
also, finish by grabbing him by hair from the back and separate the head from the body by hacking from both sides, then kicking the body down from balcony

>>280760960
The question is the answer.

>>280713914 (OP)
Just finished it yesterday. It was pretty good, definitely a step above most shows released these days. Most of the jokes didnt really land for me and i felt that fern got flanderized pretty hard, but aside from that i cam see why it got so popular

>>280760848
and there are humans who even go that far anyway

>>280762199
Killing your enemies before they can harm you is pretty cool. If we had killed the Jews before the Nazis bungled murdering them all we wouldn't be in the modern mess we're stuck in.

>>280721946
>The facial expressions are minimal
Wait you actually like it whenthe only joke is
>character do exaggerated funny face!!1!!111
Are you cucking 12

>>280713914 (OP)
I did. I liked it for a little while but it got very boring. Shame because Frieren is pretty hot and I'd keep watching just for her.

>>280760614
Alright here's first part of the full ch spoiler
At the ball Sense is tending to Serie's every need as if she were her maid. Serie is just relaxing and eating whatever she wants. Frieren is just eating cakes too since she rarely has the opportunity to just eat whatever she wants. Fern and Stark are both confused about how Frieren can eat so calmly under the circumstances. She calls them over to join her and explains that Sein has tested the cakes for poison, so it's fine. Sein mentions that he tested with his magic, not his mouth and for Frieren not to use him to excuse her gluttony.
Stark mentions that he thought this place would be extremely dangerous and he had already prepared himself mentally to face death, but it all seems very normal. Frieren says he doesn't understand and that indeed this place is extremely dangerous, it merely seems calm and peaceful. And that's why Serie has handed operational command to Sense who is in her serious examiner mode, so she's extremely calm and collected. In addition, she points out that they know their enemy's faces from their intel, so they can make a move when necessary.
Fern is puzzled and asks why they don't take advantage of that to just attack preemptively and end this all at once. Frieren responds that that could work in a remote location, but not at the venue of the imperial ball, crawling with security teams. If they take the initiative to strike, the Empire will no doubt see it as a declaration of war by the CMA. So instead, they should enjoy cake and be ready for when the shadow warriors make their move. She adds that if they can't sit still, they can go dance to calm their nerves. Fern understands, so she calls out Stark and the two of them go off to dance.

>>280768414
damn i had no idea the country music awards was involved in this

>>280768414
The scene changes to some security guards at the venue. A new character, Lager (maybe) turns to his colleague, Klaw (maybe) and tells him to look at the CMA idiots goofing around. He's reminded by his companion that the CMA is actually watching them carefully, and at that moment Lager's eyes meet Sense's. He decides to wave to her and she responds by making a gesture towards her neck. He wisely decides to stop looking at her and talks to Klaw.
He asks why they were sent as security for this venue. Klaw responds that they were simply sent to hold down the fort and everything's fine as long as no one makes any funny moves. Lager is stunned and can't believe any one would try to start something with the monsters from the CMA. He thinks those people must not value their lives much. Klaw replies rather helplessly that they could end up being counted among those people. Lager is shocked and jokes about writing out a will, but he doesn't want to die. Klaw replies with a slight smile, but this isn't actually funny for them.
The scene changes to Kanone addressing Frase. She points out that there is currently no public information available on the shadow warriors and it's as if the organization had never existed in the first place. She asks if security at the venue won't be a problem if there's no information to work with. She replies that it's up to them. They must keep the venue secure. As soon as either the shadow warriors or the CMA make a move, they're to take action. Frase orders her to be ready to act on her orders and until then she's on standby.

>>280768835
The scene now shifts to the shadow warriors. (the spoiler guy doesn't really use the shadow warriors' names, so I hope I'm getting the characters correct) Clematis, Gazelle, Iris, and Routine are at the venue. Gazelle asks Clematis if he's not worried about them being out in the open like this. He tells him to stop worrying as the security of the venue guarantees that the CMA won't make the first move on them for the same reasons Frieren mentioned.
Iris expresses her doubts. After all, aren't they also a target of the security forces? What's to stop the security forces from making the first move and coming to get them? He responds that it depends on Frase's mood. She's a die hard fanatic of the Empire after all. The ball is not just a symbol of peace, but of the empire's strength. If the ball goes south, it could be interpreted as the empire itself facing severe problems.
The special forces won't allow the Empire to lose face like that, so there's no problem with them being there at the moment. Besides, they fight in the shadows, so they know they won't start something in the open. So he says Frase is waiting for them and the CMA to fight in the shadows in order to finish them both off.
He tells them that since it's such a rare opportunity, they should go dance. After all, they were taken in as child soldiers, so they've never experienced anything like this. Even if they survive this mission, they'll never experience such a high class party again, so this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Iris jokingly asks Routine to dance, and the other girl grabs her hand to go, only for Iris to shake her hand off and refuse. Routine was disappointed.

>>280750774
She's probably never dealt with someone she knew from her past sliding into semi-lucid dementia, come to think of it.

Lawine's mom

>>280769153
ris asks Clematis if he's serious about this, given what they're there to do. He replies that he is, and tells them to do as they were taught and imitate the people around them. Then he makes fun of Gazelle, pointing out that Gazelle was a fool who didn't know which hand to use for a knife and which for a fork, but he learned by observing.
Gazelle, who was eating steak off to the side was offended and asked if Clematis was picking a fight. Do you want to go right now? Clematis ignored him. Iris stood up suddenly, listened carefully with her ears, and told Clematis she would return shortly. He was worried and told Routine to accompany her. Routine caught up and reminded her that they aren't supposed to move around alone. She says she knows and tells Routine to come along. She grabs her hand and they head off. Gazelle asks Clematis why he didn't speak openly just then.
Clematis responds, asking him why he talks like he knows everything. He replies that he just knows him too well. After all, since he saved their lives in the northern battlefields, they've grown up under his tutelage. After being together this long, how could he not understand him. Clematis responds that he just raised them all to be good pawns.
The scene switches to Iris and Routine. Routine asks Iris what she heard, and she responds that some belligerent people seem to be approaching the venue. Routine asks if it's someone on their list of targets. Iris says she doesn't know, but her intuition tells her that if they just ignore them, it'll affect the mission.
Then we see the two she sensed are Ubel and Land. Land is asking Ubel where her reins are and Ubel teasingly replies I don't know, why don't you come look for them?
Next ch - encountering the enemy
End of chapter.

>>280769410
Bad mommy.
She let her only daughter grow up into an abusive lesbian.

>>280769535
That's the dad's fault

>>280768414
>>280768835
>>280769153
>>280769468
Thanks anon

>>280769468
>Land is asking Ubel where her reins are and Ubel teasingly replies I don't know, why don't you come look for them?

By the end of this arc, Übel will definitely have learned the clone magic of Land.

>>280721797
Just started chapter 139, is that really the empire goal? I thought they just didn't want anyone more powerful than the empire.

Is the character in the latest chapters named Lineal or Linear? I swear I saw Linear at one point?

>>280771897
Official is Lineal iirc. Kana reads the same of course, and both are words in German.

>>280772863
Thanks

>>280718713
The first four episodes are SoL. It turns into shonen battling by the end of S1. Too bad.

>>280771708
>is that really the empire goal?
That's the goal of the shadow warriors, explicitly stated by Lowe

>>280774726
Wait it's in ch139, so you might not have gotten to that bit yet

>>280713914 (OP)
i can't get myself to watch it since it looks and sounds way too bland

>>280776135
It's worth a shot. I got flashbanged by Frieren's grief for Himmel in the first episode and then spent the rest of the series salivating over Serie until she finally appeared, at which point I stopped salivating and started jerking off

>>280776175
she does look sexo

>>280776175
>Obsessed by a minor character that doesn't appear until episode 21 and will rarely be in the story again
Pure mental illness

>>280713914 (OP)
you are right sister but frieren is anime for women, we dont like female mcs

>>280776236
>minor character
>a mage so strong her suppressed aura is twice the capacity of frieren's full power
We should all be asking why this maniac is hellbent on spreading combat magic solely for the sake of combat and not out there clowning on everyone.

>>280776236
>minor character
She's the biggest reason Frieren gained so much power. Had Serie not mentored Flamme, and had she not gained such an incredible amount of power on her own, Frieren would still be picking giant mushrooms and fucking around in the forest to this day. Serie a sexo and she is my wife

>>280776175
>>280776378
Anon, she wouldn't even glance in your direction when you call out to her, but simply say "rejected".

>>280713914 (OP)
Crazy how this is the best anime since 2000 easily.
like it's not even close.

So we all are aware that Serie secretly wants to die, and her entire Magic Association thing is trying to find someone who can be strong enough to kill her, right?

>>280776531
You're not creative or mad enoigh to be a mage in Frieren's universe.

>>280776344
>She's actually a super important character because.... Power level glazing!
Kek, she's like Netero from HxH. Old powerful sage but largely irrelevant to the story until he becomes a plot device later on. Difference is Netero actually did things, unlike Serie who spends all day sat on her flat ass complaining like a roastie
Writer obviously doesn't give a fuck about her, she's not even playing 2nd fiddle in the current manga arc. He gave that to Ubel

>>280713914 (OP)
It's best to wait for the dust to settle before deciding if these trendy anime are really worth watching- both fans and anti-fans get carried away.
I just finished watching Shingeki no Kyojin for the first time yesterday in accordance with my normal methodology of 'wait ten years and see if people still think it holds up.'
Maybe 10 years from now I'll watch Frieren when we can look at it more objectively.

>>280776663
The irony of what you said is Frieren's ultimate magic requires the caster to use zero creativity or "madness"

>>280776664
>2nd fiddle
The entire arc is about her. The last chapter introduces her as a main player (of the arc's buidling conflict and resolution)

>>280776866
I started reading the manga about 8 months after chapter 1 released. The entire industry isn't anime you know...vast majority of the good stuff everyone praises start as mangas.
As always I suggest to people, read the mangas. If anything you'll waste a lot less time figuring out if you like it or not than waiting for 22 mimutes of animation to sum up a 5 minute chapter.

>>280776891
>The entire arc is about her
Anon this manga is called Frieren, every arc is primarily about Frieren.
Serie is in a grand total of two chapters out of 15 in the current arc, she is barely in it because all she is used for is to be a plot device. You see way more from Ubel

Read the above leaks, this isn't changing. Sounds like Serie is in one or two panels at most then it switches to the characters who have actually been an active part of the plot so far

>>280776957
her presence and role in the current arc is major regardless of the amount of her screentime

>>280776663
Could also be the "chaotic neutral character wants to kill God" trope.

>>280721946
That's fair, but the animation is stellar work from Madhouse, it's still worth a watch if you turn your brain off.

>>280777205
>One page out of the last 300 where she wasn't just a background character
Oh wow, I guess it really is Sousou no Serie now

>>280776957
>this manga is called Frieren, every arc is primarily about Frieren.
Frieren is an unobtrusive kuudere who's more than comfortable letting others take the leading role.

>>280776664
>she's like Netero
>Netero actually did things
Netrou was a more or less irrelevant side character, more or less comprable to the other proctors of the Hunter Exam untill he was pitted against the strongest chimera ant and had an even fight.

>>280776544
I like it very much, It probably resonated with me like nothing since watching Clannad ~After Story~for the first time. But I think that in 10 years from now there will be many, many series that will be seen as more influential. And in terms of production, attention to detail, musical score etc. I can think of anime such as Vinland Saga, Made in Abyss which are not far off.

>>280776378
Serie's first impression of Frieren was that she "must be strong", when they first met. Frieren was already the strongest elven mage in her elven village per her own reckoning. Frieren was strong from the start and if she led a long life she was always going to get even stronger, even if that isn't a thing she particularly cares about.

>>280770926
How do you know she hasn't already lernt it and they're both in the basement of her house doing kinky things while their clones are going to dances together and get caught kissing in the closet by the magical FSB or whatever (*they're on bodyguard duty*).

>>280775909
legalize marrying demons

>>280715839
vgh... if only frieren was a pedo...

It sucks as adventure, fantasy and slice of life. Not sure why teenagers think it's profound. Lack of experience, probably. /a/ is nothing but casual shitters after all.

>>280779118
>frieren was already strong
Maybe. Maybe barely. Maybe the Flamme/Elfen Village introduction scene was just plot. Maybe Frieren wasnt "strong" at all, just strong enough and lucky to be the last one standing. How old was she then? 50? 100? 200? A thousand more?
Frieren still hasn't surpassed Flamme's peak, many centuries later.

We can try to make claims with no evidence or we can take story's meaning for the sake of the plot, much like idiots calling Frieren Clone's last attack a curse despite all evidence.

best frieren x himmel fic?

>>280781338
You watch anime characterizing the military as women and think you have any position to criticise.
The shame you would let yourself feel, if you were aware of what's been done to you.

>>280781385
Thanks for proving that frierentards are politics obsessed tourists who do not watch anime. Go back to pol, resetera, xitter, bsky or whenever you came from, faggot.

>>280781338
>Not sure why teenagers think it's profound
The average age of Frieren fan in Japan is 44

>>280781351
>A thousand more?
No, we know Frieren is less than two thousand years old. We just don't know where she lies between one and two thousand.

>>280781338
>>280781478
Not an argument, as a neutral bystander I declare you lose.

>>280781478
Are you implying military anime isn't fundamentally political? And then calling me dumb.
Jesus fucking christ.

>>280782034
Mate it was a hyperbole

>>280770885
Why include Land in this at all? Ridiculous image

24 h until Frieren is back

>>280781338
>>280781478
Not a neutral bystander, same guy calling you shamefully stupid, and I declare you win.

What now faggot.
Huh.
What now.

>All that external buildup
It will fucking end like SnK, won't it?

>>280782453
>Frieren finding a man?
>No I don't want that!
>She has to keep thinking about me, for another thousand years at least!!!

>>280782389
Oh and the manga will not be in next weeks issue but confirmed for the following week (August 6th)

So probably going to be bi-weekly release for now

>>280781351
>the scene was just plot
not sure what to make of this.
>Maybe Frieren wasnt "strong" at all
The scenery implies she solo'd a demon general, her dialogue with Flamme alludes to her fighting him head on with sheer magical might, the visual representation of an exausted Frieren is stil larger than what a current year first class mage might consider the aura of an experienced old mage. Conversely I think there are precious few clues that's not strong.
>Frieren still hasn't surpassed Flamme's peak
What we see of Flamme is vaguely comparable to Aura and Heiter in terms of mana. But sure Flamme's legacy is still greater than Frieren's. And though she considers her a failure overal, I don't think Serie would begrudge Flamme a 1st rank mage title if she went and took the exam.

>>280782453
Souls aren't real. Flamme lied about Areole (which is conviently where the Demon King's castle is) in a bid to get Frieren to confront him. But in the end all of that is irrelevant because the journey was the destination all along.

>>280783193
Serie doesn't grant mages the rank based on their power or skill. She only cares about them being combat cqpable and/or having a unique level of gifted ability.

>>280781385
to be fair, that anime is no masterpiece had both stronger feels and stronger thoughts. Let's say it was a stronger showing within the vast spectrum of generic anime.
>>280781487
dunning krueger doesn't go away with age, or does it

>>280784140
>had both stronger feels and stronger thoughts
Can you try that again in English?

>>280784331
*but had stronger etc
shouldn't be hard to grasp anyway

In many ways Frieren is an unreliable narrator. Look, who was at the Demon King fight, and who wasn’t? That’s literally all there is to say on the subject.

>>280781351
>much like idiots calling Frieren Clone's last attack a curse despite all evidence.
Any spell that isn't understood by humanity is a curse, unless Frieren goes and teaches her final resort to people it will remain a curse.

>>280785896
Can't stand this shit. Use your head. Apply logic. Assume the translations don't work correctly.
The curses given as examples are sleep, paralysis (not to be confused with restraint spells), and what is essentially Midas' Touch
Human understood magic involves solely the physical manipulation of objects or magic as a conjured physical force.

Frierenclone's attack was something like magic power purely as energy, or even unblockable and undetectable telekinesis.
That doesn't make fit the given examples of curses, doesn't fit Qual's Zoltrak being known as an attack not a curse BEFORE deconstruction.
More to me, sounds like translation problems AND the general population being retards and wrong.

You are wrong.
Why are you all so stupid.

>>280785896
I'll give you one caveat and go a step higher.

IF it is a curse, the only thing it can be is the mage controlling the target's mana and using it against them. Hence why it couldn't be detected or blocked or countered.

>>280785896
Incorrect, Frieren is part of humanity. Therefore, humanity understands the nature of her attack.

>>280776344
>a mage so strong her suppressed aura is twice the capacity of frieren's full power
>twice
Did you just make up shit?

>>280781351
> Maybe Frieren wasnt "strong" at all, just strong enough and lucky to be the last one standing.
She explcitly said she was the strongest in her village in ep 10

>>280715860
BASED and STRONGESTINFICTIONpilled

>>280768414
>>280768835
>>280769153
>>280769468
Thanks anon

>>280718713
>>280773348

>>280788392
Nigger, mana auras are visually shown. Serie's suppressed mana completely fills the 3rd stage flower garden. Completely. Frieren didn't have that much during Aura's judgement.

>>280788761
Lernen said Frieren and Serie's mana was about the same, so you are wrong

>>280713914 (OP)
>characters full of personality
>meanwhile the characters for 95% of the series :|

>>280788905
yeah, that was some major >implying on the part of the OP

>>280788815
Serie restricts her mana much the same as flamme and frieren my dude.

>>280790120
>Serie restricts her mana much the same as frieren
Absolutely nothing suggests this, Frieren spent most of her life perfecting it while Serie considers it an inefficiency waste of time.

>>280790439
What could this mysterious lady possibly want at the goodheart orphanage for very sick demon children?

>>280790355
>Absolutely nothing suggests this
NTA but please pay attention to what you're watching or reading m8.

>>280790615
>>280790120
Wrong
>>280790355
Correct. Frieren suppresses her mana to 10% of what it normally is. While Serie suppresses as well, it's likely not as much as Frieren, as she considers the practice to be a waste of time

Things we know:
>serie suppresses her mana
But not how much
>kraft is older than frieren by centuries
>serie is older than kraft
But not how much
>Heiter had the equivalent of a 500-year elf or demon mage's mana
>when Heiter met Frieren he assumed her (suppressed) mana was 1/5th of his
This means, at the start of the Hero Party's 10 year quest, Frieren had twice as much as Heiter.
>Lerner said he thinks Frieren has "almost as much" as Serie
>almost
But not how much

So we know Serie is stronger, we know serie suppresses, we know lerner interprets Frieren's true mana as close-but-not-quite to Serie (but he can't see that she suppresses). We dont know how much she suppresses, nor exactly the difference in her suppressed and frieren's true mana.

Some nerd did a pixel-count guess on reddit but he bungled the measuring horribly so that post is entirely unreliable. I'll do one when I get home. I'll even attempt to compare depictions of frieren and serie's suppression instabilities to see if there's any pattern that can estimate the amounts.

Yes, we are now Dragon Ball Z Power Level fanfic'ing Sousou No Frieren.

>>280791409
It doesn't really matter anyway, since mana is just one of many components that make a strong mage.
Even if you could account for all those things, the world's most powerful mage could lose to somebody much weaker than them just because they had a terrible matchup due to the rock/paper/scissors nature of things

>>280791550
I'm not waxing autistic about all the details. Only attempting some half-baked-reasonable estimation method of mana pool.

>>280713914 (OP)
>They got wonderful storytelling, well executed jokes, characters full of personality, beautiful enviroments
Until the mage exam arc started. What the FUCK happened? It's like the original author died and somebody else took over.

>>280788761
Lerned said Serie's supressed mana was the same as Frieren's unsupressed one, so not twice

>>280791101
>Frieren suppresses her mana to 10% of what it normally is.
Wrong. She started supressing her mana to 10% 1000 years ago, we can see it got noticeably larger in the meantime. That being said it's clear Serie has way more mana than Frieren, as it was to be expected.

>>280791409
>when Heiter met Frieren he assumed her (suppressed) mana was 1/5th of his
But her supressed mana is not a 10% of her full one, this is plain wrong. it was a 10% 1000 years ago when she started training. Her mana grew qignificantly in the meantime as we can see in EP 10 when she met Flamme, and then again vs Aura - whatever how much she supresses it today, it's clerarly a much smaller number than 10%.
This also means that Heiter's mana is not half as hers which would be absurd.

>>280793319
It got noticeably larger because her base mana increased over the thousand years. She's still suppressing to 10% as far we know

>>280713914 (OP)
Nah, I'm watching Mushoku Tensei: Isekai ittara Honki dasu.

>>280715839
Kek, the amount of seething you caused for telling the trvth.

spoilers of 141 when

>>280793458
>She's still suppressing to 10% as far we know
No she is not. Your information is 1000 years out of date. Why would you assume that the level she was at when the started training is the same level she was at at the end of Flamme's 50 year training, let alone 1000 years later?

Besides that we have seen it. We have seen her supressed and unsupressed mana in present day, and her supressed and unsupressed mana 1000 years ago. Her supressed mana is roughly the same size todayt as it was during Flamme's time , while her unsuperssed one grew a huge amount.

>>280793565
see
>>280760614
>>280768414

>>280775247
Yeah lol, I just went to back to your reply and now it all makes sense.

>>280793696
> Her supressed mana is roughly the same size todayt as it was during Flamme's time
It absolutely is not. Go and rewatch/reread

I gave it a shot but when cross referencing manga with anime there are too many inconsistencies.

In anime, Aura Vs. Frieren scene, the side-by-side shows Aura with a 540 pixel mana and Frieren with 110.
In Frieren true mana scene, scaling with perspective, we come to a Frieren @ correct height mana of about 2180 pixels.
But the manga givees something like Aura=365, Frieren (corrected size) 105, and Feieren true mana = 910 when I do comparisons and image scaling to match character sizes.

So there's no consistency in the visuals and it cannot be used to gauge anything.
Author's words have to be taken at face value, which leaves it all vague and unimportant.
How boring.

>>280794101
Here you go.
Her supssed mana is roughly twice the size today as it was 1000 years ago, while her unsupressed one is waaay more than double.

>>280794499
Thank you, i accept your concession

>>280793422
Incorrect. Aura's assessment of Frieren's suppressed mana is that she has the mana of someone who's trained for around a century. Then Frieren pops her real mana of around a millennium of training. It's still 10%.

>>280791101
Serie is actually much much better at suppressing her mana than Frieren. This is demonstrated clearly when Frieren says that if she set foot in the Golden Land, Macht would be able to instantly detect her mana, whereas Serie walked right into the Golden Land, right behind Macht and he didn't notice until she started talking to him.

>>280795124
>no argument in the face of data
Typical.

>>280795315
Who gives a shit what Aura says, the facts are here
>>280794499
It's clearly less than 10%

>>280788640
wow fern is so wide

I have unconfirmable ideas about how their mana is described and shown and what it means.
Frieren seems to maintain her mana at the level it was when Flamme found her. This suggests she's about 1,100 years old and was 100 or so during the village attack.
We know Kraft is centuries older than Frieren and was an ancient hero about 1,500 years ago.
We know Serie is older than Kraft. We know she is from the "mythical era" but have no details.
We know Serie's mana suppression is essentially perfect
We know Serie suppresses her mana to just above Frieren's natural output.

I think Serie is 5,000 or 10,000 years old and is either the original Elf created by the Goddess or something close to it.

How do you feel about the series becoming super plot heavy? I don't mind

>>280793563
that show went to shit immediately in s02 and everyone knows it especially you

>>280793563
>haven't watched pass episode 6
do mushokeks really

>>280796653
I honestly wish Serie looked more like a shrunken old lady. Her character design is pure sex as is, so I don't want to complain too much. But it would be so sensible if you could just say: this elf looks older and therefore is older (aprox). There's no other characters from the age of myths so nothing Serie says is at all verifiable.

>>280798324
It was kino from S1 EP1 to S2EP24 and will continue to be the best when S3 comes out.

>>280715032
i showed Frieren fight scenes to my shounenfag friend
He seemed impressed but honestly I think he likes big hunky men more than cool fights.

>>280796653
An thing to note is that while for Frieren a thousand years is "most of her life", Serie talks about a thousand years the way Frieren talks about fifty. But hell, she talks about watching the birth of human civilization.

>>280798324
>a minor slowdown
>went to shit
erroneous.

>>280713914 (OP)
Who cares, I want to fuck the elf.

>>280798884
>Turn a fantasy show into a Erectile dysfunction comedy...
yes it went to shit, anything else is cope.

>>280799100
i wonder if the people most triggered by this have ED. it's the only reason i can think why this pisses them off so much.
hits too close to home, huh. understandable.

>dont criticize my fav anime show

everytime

damn it cuts to the bone. it's ok man. they make pills for that. you are not alone.

sometimes it best not to post

give me a rational reason for hating the ED subplot that doesn't involve how badly you're mentally scarred from ED, and i'll listen.

insecure mtfags and shitposting in other threads, a classic duo

>>280730505
who will complete frierens harem?

>>280799616
look at the complete lack of argumentation
it's ok dude, take a time out, go cry about your broken dick, then come back and stop sperging.

>>280799709
im not even the person you were talking to

>>280799758
nobody cares. you have to go hard when you're tearing someone down. collateral damage.

>>280798324
kinda funny somebody would feel so much need to convince others the show he likes is not shit that he would spent such effort on a gif

>>280800102
I mean, probably makes mushokufags the match made in heaven for frierenfags, I can certainly see the parallels

>>280793563
>r/isekai
>made a webm to cry about reddit not liking your anime
Mushokufags this is NOT helping your image

>>280800412
reddit retards don't speak for me
i like both, i think both have their strengths. frieren has most consistently excellent animation, i'd say it's the best animated show of the year, probably the decade.
but everyone is a Rule of Cool chuuni, it lacks the heart and warmth of MT

>>280796653
>We know Serie is older than Kraft.
We do?

>>280801011
No. That guy made up like half the things in his post

>>280801011
>>280801071
Isn't Serie kind of semi-famous? she runs the current Bureacracy of Mages or whatever.
Kraft remarks he thought all the elves had gone extinct, but surely he should know of Serie, even if he's never met her, he would have heard something. Unless Serie is some kind of autistic hikikomori.

>>280713914 (OP)
The blurays are expensive, which is fine cause I found the show fairly overrated when it was airing.

>>280801192
>Unless Serie is some kind of autistic hikikomori
He's not a mage, and likely suffers from the same apathy regarding institutions that Frieren does.

>>280801192
The magic association is pretty new, 50 years old or so. There are statues of Frieren and Kraft all over the continent, but not a single one of Serie, meaning that she likely hasn't done much of note throughout her life. At least nothing worth being remembered for

>>280802331
how did she maneuver herself into being the head bureaucrat of a human organization?

>>280802418
Probably nepotism or something, idk

>>280802418
It was in Flamme's last will & testament, which despite Serie tearing it up, she apparently followed through with. Such is befitting of my wife

>>280802418
she said she was in charge and no one could stop herb

>>280802721
She must have some badass spells and mana then
but ultimately i think they could outgun her. she wanted to be in charge and they took the path of least resistance.

>>280801192
There's a chance Kraft is so fucking old he doesn't even care about anything that happens in current times, even Serie or the Magic Association.

>>280796653
>Frieren seems to maintain her mana at the level it was when Flamme found her.
Almost the same level: >>280794499

>remember that i need to buy part 2 of the dvd set
>it wont come out until late september
why the fuck is it taking so long?

Prediction: this whole assassination plot will involve anti-magic crystals. There's no other reason those were introduced into the story earlier.

Screencap this. I will be proven right due to my 500 IQ.

>>280729668
4riren

>>280729668
Guess all the votes for shonenshit went towards Frieren since there's barely any that came out that year, and 2 out of the top 3 were genderbender series. Can't think of anything more divisive than Onimai and it still managed 2nd place. Folks that wouldn't vote for genderbender series just threw their votes on Frieren I guess. Also /a/'s tastes seems to have shift towards being the same as redditors past 2021, not sure if this is a good thing, for the number 1 spots at least

>>280805129
I think so too but then again I also thought that Ubel would kill at least one other contestant during the mage exams, or that Macht's gay little bracelet would activate before the end.

>>280807093
based

>if frieren was a pedo
what do you call 1000 year old and 20 year old?

>>280713914 (OP)

>>280809023
Two consenting adults.

>>280713914 (OP)
Yeah it was a really good time

>>280802418
When you are the absolutely best at what you do you'll get in charge pretty quickly if you want.

>>280782313
I agree, it should have been yuri

>>280801011
>We do?
We don't. Having said that, Kraft's world saving adventure happened within the last 1500 years, we do know that. We also know that when he was young he didn't believe in the Goddess of Creation but came around to his faith later on. Supposedly the goddess of creation last walked the earth during the age of myths, which is the time Serie hailed from.
There's enough there to suggest that she's older, but that's all. We absolutely don't know it for sure.

>>280713914 (OP)

>>280802418
Isn't she the one that created the organization?

>>280805129
>Prediction: this whole assassination plot will involve anti-magic crystals
Wouldn't surprise me if that happens.

>>280713914 (OP)
>If you hated itthe you're all fucking idiot who can't comprehend the emotions.

>>280809774

>>280815221
No, she just took over it. Sounds like humanity has been organized in their magic research since the age of Flamme.

>>280816809
Flamme created the magic schools, she didn't create the magic association, did she? Otherwise, how is a guy like Lernen the first ever 1st class mage?

>>280816909
Flamme didn't but it feels like it's a natural evolution which she set into motion. Frieren said that these organizations and their standards change all the time, so this feel like just a recent iteration of it when Serie just happened to pop on the scene and take ownership over it.

>>280817062
Sounds like headcanon.

>>280817062
>>280817090
nvm, I went through the ep againt and Richter says "founder"

maybe it will make me sound like a sentimental fag, but after over 10 years of enjoying anime, frieren reminded me of why i love anime so much. its something i will always hold dear to me.

>>280811929
>Kraft's world saving adventure happened within the last 1500 years, we do know that.
We do?

>>280818827
Based kino appreciator

>>280818827
Me too. I'm a 30yo boomer watching anime since I was a kid and I can count using the fingers of one hand the number of times I appreciated an anime as much as I did with Frieren.

I'm am gay for 1,000 year old short woman.

>>280815221
yes, Serie formed the CMA 50 or so years ago.
>>280820324
Yeah, the ancient statue of Kraft and his human bro show that his bro was a priest holding the scriptures. The scriptures didn't exist before 1500 years ago.

>>280713914 (OP)
It lost to Solo Leveling. Stay mad.

>>280822991
It won on reddit though. :3

>>280713914 (OP)
>Watch Frieren.
No

>>280713914 (OP)
I miss it already, I can't wait for season 2 of KINOren

I watched it over the weekend. It was pretty good to be honest, I put it off for a long time because it gets talked about too much. It is certainly overrated though. I'd give it a 7-8/10. The first-class mage exam arc really devalued it for me. It become too battle-shounen-esque for my taste. It really felt like at some point in the second half the director changed or something, there were also some really out of character moments from time to time seemingly randomly. Overall, its ok.

>>280713914 (OP)

>>280721946
you just don't understand it

>>280827154
I really liked it up until the magic exam too. The prior episodes set a pretty breakneck pace for everything, sometimes transitioning weeks or months regularly between episodes. Then you get to the magic exam and everyone kind of just accepts its something they have to go through just to travel further north and you end up spending every episode up until the end in one location accomplishing what is essentially a sidequest.

Frieren fags are officially worse than Edgerunner shills
At least we just had to deal with a handful of episodes and that was over fast
These faggots just keep pushing this mid-show and manga FOR YEARS
Just fuck off with your pleb tastes

>>280830495
except frieren is actually good

>>280713914 (OP)
Adult Swim Latinamerica is adding Frieren in August 4 at 9:30pm in the South American feed (Apothecary Diaries and Spy X Family are also being added), no idea if the dub is any good

>>280713914 (OP)
>Watch Frieren
I already did. It was the best anime I've ever seen this decade so far.

>>280713914 (OP)
Only if she has either a nice butt or cute boobs

>>280713914 (OP)
The animation's good but I wouldn't say the writing's great by any means.

>>280827154
Yeah, lowering your expectations and turning your brain off on a rewatch made for a better experience.

>>280715032
As a DBZ fan, DBZ is the only good anime. All other anime sucks. I hate this garbage medium.

>>280715053
How dare you criticize us shounen fans. We are always right. I am fucking offended by this and you should feel ashamed.

>>280715860
That's right. Whenever us DBZ fans speak, you WILL sit your ass down, listen and learn from us.

>>280715860
>>280835814
Son Goku! Oh please save us from the rampant gooner loli degeneracy and overall perversion of women that has been plaguing the anime/manga fandom for millenia.

>>280831713
How DARE you say your boring mid moeblob tranime show is actually good? MY show is the only actual good show here.

>>280713914 (OP)
i watcheded it already and it was good

>>280818827
man, you are not alone, before frieren my favorite anime was cowboy bebop

I tend to agree but some of the Arcs are just too fucking bloated to make this a manga about a proper journey.
>we need to get through here but you need a PERMIT for that so we have to do a fucking TEST for fucking ever even though Frieren is one of the best mages in the fucking world obvious to everyone who comes across her.
This shit is also where the "native Isekai" lable comes from.

>>280776175
uhh, based?

>>280805129
This gif is full of emotion but the contrarians told me it's an emotionless anime.

>>280732052
Sense is Serie (the psychopath's) snitch & spymaster. Stuck up mages. That's why Ubel is cool, she bucks their snobby paradigm.

>>280786206
>That doesn't make fit the given examples of curses, doesn't fit Qual's Zoltrak being known as an attack not a curse BEFORE deconstruction.

How about a deconstruction of your living room when I drive my SUV through it little nigger boy

>>280781478
>Thanks for proving that frierentards are [HEADCANON]
cute doya btw

>>280713914 (OP)
Sorry, I don't watch shounenshit.

>>280839546
Definitely not a flex if you're consuming pedo moe shit or Yurislop

>>280836730
The tournament arc is indeed the worst as it made no sense whatsoever logically, there were a million ways to get around that city, the author should've just went with Fern wanting to get the 1st class mage certificate for future purposes, though I despise this tournament arc regardless, it just doesn't fit well in the overall setting.

>be himmel
>you reincarnate as frieren and stark's son
what do?

>>280838231

>>280842857
SoL comedy where the dad survives all sorts of peculiar incidents around the house

>>280713914 (OP)
cant tell if srs

>>280838231
Never listen to contrarians and form your own opinions

>>280742803
>Japs call them delusions instead of fanfic/fanart
Is this more accurate?

>>280713914 (OP)
>Watch Frieren.
Only when season 2 (dubbed) comes out.

Legalize demon wives

>>280854320
You have to de-horn and de-fang them first.

>>280835735
Spicbro...

>>280842857
Kill Stark.
Impregnate my elf mother.

>>280854533
Demons don't have fangs.

>>280854320
Honestly could be a pretty interesting setup: me with some sort of magic control spell, which Solitär must obey but she tries to circumvent the spell and murder me.

>>280855440
Some do. If they don't, then remove their canines.

>>280713914 (OP)
ironic

>>280713914 (OP)
watched it

wont watch it