Thread 280748043

Heavy as it Should Be
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1025788

Cute Mother-Wife is cute.

>>280748302
>being of immense power that sundered the world in two
>Bai Ze is saying this
Yellow Emperor is definitely a boss in the future. We're going five emperors.

The end

>>280748043 (OP)
Thanks for the dump anon pretty good so far, tho look like its kinda slow pace huh unlike others

>>280748579
This pacing is perfect to be fair. 1st volume is gonna end with Kou being burdened with the true weight of being Chiyou's avatar (chapter 8?)
2nd volume probably finishes the entire first big arc and moves into the next.

>>280748401
>>280748346
I'm starting to think Kou is her daddy-husband instead

Series is one I look forward to each week. Its fun and I like the setting a lot. How are the Japanese audience taking it so far? I think it needs more busty panels of Chiyou like this >>280748445

>>280748151
I was hoping for a comedic relief and I get two, blessed day

>>280748445
Did they just make out in front of a child

>>280749394
I’m pretty sure it’s more like Chiyou molested Kou in front of a “child”

Chiyou my momwife

>>280748579
I don't know if it's good for it in modern Jump, but I like that it's taking its time and not just speedrunning to the next epic event. I also like the oneeshota.

>>280749717
Pretty sure this pacing is exactly KGB's Sojo arc pacing. Sojo even shows up on chapter 5.
It's gonna be fine.

Any reference i could read to understand what might happen in the future

>>280750027
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRZGo4arWEg&pp=ygUYaGlzdG9yeSBvZiBjaGluYSBpIGd1ZXNz

>>280750096
Right I'll watch it thanks

I think we are going to get another human character at the temple, the villagers on the river in chapter 2 mentioned shenguai hunters. I hope it'll be more antagonistic than joining an organization thing with the hunters seeing Kou as some kind of crazy cultist trying to revive the god of war.

>>280748445
Did she just silence him with a titty attack?

>>280748502
>man eating tiger demon nesting in an abandoned temple
That's a chinese trope if I ever saw one. There's one in Wukong too.
He better make this count, if its anything below stellar this next arc will be the end of the series.

I've read some stuff during the week for what this manga is referencing so I'm gonna drop some
>Kaedegami is 楓神, 楓 kaede - maple leaves and 神 - god hence this symbol >>280748048
>Chiyou was an ancient tribal leader who fought the Chinese ancestors, he had a bronze-coloured head hence Chiyou's red hair
>these Chinese ancestors were the Yellow Emperor and Flame Emperor, which later were turned into two of the Five Emperors who had those 4 beasts of north (genbu), south (suzaku), east (azure dragon), west (byakko)
>one of Yellow Emperor's pet (?) is Bai Ze here >>280748151
It means for Chiyou to collect her body parts she'll have to beat everyone she fought during the Chinese creation legend.
The story is basically a revenge story boss rush if you look it from Chiyou's perspective.

>>280748502
Don't normally see the really giant ones being so human like

Sex with Nyue

>>280750769
. . . With Nyue?

>>280750835
The little gremlin creature

>>280750194
Yeah i can see that it will make the story more interesting

>>280750892
But why

>>280750456
I see so why is her face with that low level shenguai?

>>280750747
Huang Di is Yellow Emperor. Bai Ze that shows up this chapter is under him in legends, which is why you see him kinda hostile to Kou and Chiyou behin his smile

>>280751022
Because it's onahole sized

>>280751102
You'll have to let Harukawa explain that kek
Probably got stolen from a temple or something. Despite the loss, the original Chiyou still had people venerate him. Probably gonna be the same here.

>>280748043 (OP)
If only Chiyou would step on my face like that

>>280751170
It's a bit vague though, because Bai Ze is also a species, and the name of a specific one? And this guy says something along the same lines

>>280748302
Urg Chiyou's battle costume looks ugly as hell

>>280748445
more uncensored eyeball sucking and titty tackles plz.
The only thing that's missing is them calling each other family, that would make this scene perfect

I’m enjoying how indulgent this is. Same chapter has Chiyou claiming to have raised Kou and then later silencing him with a titty attack. Chiyou will totally fall for Kou eventually at this rate.

>>280750388
>he
Are we sure the mangaka isn’t a woman? Kou’s design and writing gives me the impression that Jun is female. Maybe I’m biased but it seems like male mangaka can only write unattractive, pathetic simp characters.

>>280748353
OMGGGGGG I HAVE TO SCREAMM
THIS IS BASICALLY CONFIRMED THEIR FEELINGS ARE MUTUAL

btw Chiyou's side profile is beautiful as fuck

>>280750194
>I think we are going to get another human character at the temple
Pettanko exorcist girl in next week
Trust the plan

>>280748445
Fuck I wish I was Kou

>>280748445
>make out in front of people like it's nothing
I kneel author-sama

>>280751674
Of course it's not gonna be one to one.
We can see this Bai Ze has been around since the war. High chance he was on the opposite side.
Or maybe this Chiyou was some princess from the lineage of Flame Emperor so technically still Bai Ze's master hence him calling her madam. Find out more next week.

>>280748502
He is good-looking for a minion boss

>>280751814
Hmmm kou look similar to venti maybe you're right

>>280748445
Are we sure she is kou mother figure lmao

>>280751909
I think that’s too fast for that unless the mangaka is getting axe omens. It definitely looks like they will be endgame but I’m expecting more impediments before feelings are confirmed and reciprocated.
>Chiyou thinks Kou is just grateful
>Kou thinks Chiyou just thinks of him as a kid
Etc
The early chapters focusing on family themes seem like an intentional choice to muddy the waters for the readers and characters for future emotional conflict.

>>280750456
>>280749185
I wonder if the current Chiyou is lacking something like a brain, she is too tame and nice for the supposed God of War to spread fear over two worlds

>>280748445
Isn't he still a teen while she's a thousand of years inmortal being?

>>280752270
yes

>>280752235
>she is too tame and nice for the supposed God of War
she went through motherhood once with Kou and is probably planning to do it again with his child

>>280752235
Imagine if the author set something up like the more body parts Kou recovers, the more she returns to the god of war persona
It could evolve into a kino final confrontation where he has to fight her to save humanity
Also the split personality shenanigans could do unimaginable things to my dick

>>280752184
They share a strong bond with mutual trust. There's no girl or guy can get in between them.
Even if girls shove their tits at Kou's face, he already used to his motherwife titty monster

>>280752270
I think Chiyou is at yeast 5000+ yo

>>280752515
I want to see how Kou reacts to someone being flirty with Chiyou

>>280752509
Ngl that would be awesome
Kou needs a heartbreak once to become a man and get stronger so that he can tame his woman again

>>280752509
Yeah im thinking kino but lets see in few chapters if the author have the balls to do kino moments

>>280750096
You go back about 300-400 years before this video starts with Yu the Engineer and you get Chiyou's supposed era.

>>280752515
I think a long term theme to Kou's character development is him developing an attachment for humanity instead of just going murderhobo on both demons and humans alike
A human romantic interest could play nicely into this, we also need something to serve as some sort of obstacle to chiyou and kou just getting together and being done with it

>>280752822
I don’t think the manga should introduce a romance competitor until it is more safe

>>280748151
Can some stomp out Nyue? She's ugly as shit and has overstayed her welcome within her introductory page. The joy of her being gone cannot outweigh the pain of her being here in the first place.

>>280752822
>human romantic interest
Kou only has eyes for Chiyou how is this gonna work
>obstacle
Kou has no idea how love works and Chiyou has no function to feel love. I think if the 1st arc ends with Chiyou regaining a part of her body and becoming more feral that'd work for now.

>>280748579
>kinda slow pace huh unlike
There are so many series in Jump right now that are guarantee to get axed coming the next couple of batches of new series, that the editor probably told Harukawa, "take your time, don't worry.

>>280748043 (OP)
Thanks for the dump

>>280748502
What part are they going to recover this time?
I hope it's Chiyou's hands so they can hold hands

>>280750194
>crazy cultist
Kek

>>280752822
>A human romantic interest
I'm afraid there's no human that can be as beautiful as Chiyou
Kou's base standards for beauty is already too high thanks to his adoptive mother and she's surely a better jerkoff material than any other women with her cow tits in that slutty costume

>>280753830
I hope if not this arc then the next, Chiyou recovers her stomach/intestines and starts feeling the need to eat human flesh or drink blood.
Imagine Kou giving his blood to her and Chiyou indulging like a vampire.

>>280753830
depend on the theme. so far, the tiger have bad tendency to eat people. so probably that.

>>280748579
we didnt have lore dump chapter yet. Ichi have it in ch 2. still make sense pacing wise. especially with the villain already being tease too.

>>280752270
Last chapter we saw pieces of technology that would place this series sometime between 1850 and 1920, and Chiyou is involved in the Chinese creation myth dating back to circa 3,000 BC. She's pushing 50(00) years old.

>>280752235
don't nips associate courage with the liver or something? is that a chink thing too?

>>280748502
Tiger hunting!

>>280755678
You might be right? So maybe they're recovering Chiyou's intestines

The boy should've been younger to have a proper oneeshota
Eitherway the fact that she's basically his adoptive mother and still being all touchy makes it hot enough (would be better if she takes the physical image of his actual mom but whatever)
I'm liking this series

>>280756395
If he was younger the manga would be failing. This dude was assistant on Fabricant 100 which did try oneeshota. And Otr isn’t doing too well either. I think the readers prefer older MCs right now. It’s oneeshonen though I guess.

>>280748043 (OP)
I'm extremely confused on the logistics of her not having her body. in one panel she's hugging and titslamming kou and stomping on bai ze's face, and in another kou's hand goes right through her and she's unable to assist with fighting
>>280748445
giwtwm

>>280756395
>would be better if she takes the physical image of his actual mom
Why?
Kou wouldn't impregnate Chiyou if she looks like his biological mother

>>280755217
>Last chapter we saw pieces of technology that would place this series sometime between 1850 and 1920
What was the technology because I don't see it
>dating back to 3000 BC
I'm reading wiki and this was propagated by the Yuros that came to China, which then was adapted by modern Chinese.
Contemporaries of the guy who wrote this creation myth/history during the Han era said it was either 6000 BC or 3800 BC

>>280756606
Current Chiyou is like a shell on autopilot, she is hollow inside, Kou filled her up with his love so she was able to develop some human feelings

>>280756606
I’m guessing it takes her active effort to have any physical presence but I do think it should be clarified

>>280750194
that would be a fantastic development. I'm completely on board with this and I'll be a bit disappointed if it's not how it pans out
>>280752509
yeah, I had that thought after chapter 2. I can't imagine it not happening honestly, although I'm not sold that there'll be an actual fight between them. it'll probably be an emotional fight with kou expressing his love to make her current personality win

>>280749297
>How are the Japanese audience taking it so far?
They want Chiyou's boobs to dominate the ranking
They also praise Chiyou's suction power
A few of them have the same problem with not keeping up with the Chinese myths

I wonder if Chiyou is used to skin-ship and kissing others, Baize wasn't surprised by how she jumped at the kid either

>>280748242
>>280748302
>extrenely powerful woman made a pact with a mountain boy to tie her life with his without telling him the details for personal reasons
This manga really is Ichi with Chinese magic instead of European magic and that's a good thing. Sometimes I feel like Ichi isn't "dark enough" and this manga scratches the itch perfectly.

>>280757107
>Such loyalty and devotion, our kind shall never understand that!
High chance he's seeing all this and thinks Chiyou is manipulating poor Kou into a life of endless war.

Author comment.

>>280756552
Fabricant didn't have enough harrassment, even though the girl had hige tits
>>280756666
>Kou wouldn't impregnate Chiyou if she looks like his biological mother
He'd learn to accept it and eventually do it

>>280748043 (OP)
>>280748048
Love the gags

>>280757287
And also she is grooming the boy to have sex with instead of using him as a servant. GIWTWM

>decide to check the mangaplus comments for this chapter since chiyou was definitely not acting motherly and I know there are a bunch of fags there who don't want it to be a romance
most of the top rated comments are unsurprisingly saying things like they hope it doesn't develop that way, they'll drop it if it does, um he's only 16 and she's hundreds of years old yikes
how did these people get here.

Pushed down shota count:
>Ch1: 10
>Ch2: 1
>Ch3: 1
>Ch4: 0
>Ch5: 7
We are so back

Chiyou? Used to be Known as Kratos before moving to the Chinese patheon and transitioning.

I'll be honest with you, I really want to see more fanservice.

>>280758410
Seems like the mangaka is working off feedback now though if so it does make me wonder how they’d be developing the characters without having to worry about pleasing the readers. Would there just be no fanservice? Less flirting?

>>280748445
Those are full on airbags.

>>280748502
Thanks OP

>>280758135
If they are that worried they should just stop reading now. Seems to me that the whole point of Chiyou being ‘motherly’ is to act as an emotional obstacle so she and Kou don’t immediately pair up.

>>280748043 (OP)
giwtwm

>>280758709
The owl plushie is a complete waste of time, for one. If there’s no ara ara stitched into every moment of respite, this manga has no future

>>280760441
I mostly agree, but I'm fine with the duolingo form as long as it's used incredibly sparingly. basically just when she's around people who might realize she's not human, and then they quickly get out of that situation so she can change back

>>280760525
I don’t think we will be seeing much of the owl form I’m sure they were looking at feedback

I’m don’t know what people are worried about, their dynamic has been clearly established and I don’t think it’s ever going to depart from casual loving oneesan molestation. She’s not going to produce his human children just because they find her womb in a cave somewhere.

>>280758539
Lmao

>>280760441
>If there’s no ara ara stitched into every moment of respite, this manga has no future
if anything it's the other way around
I can guarantee you chinese autists are gonna leave if you put too much. There has never been any raunchy anything chinese that make it unless it's BL

>>280757287
>Sometimes I feel like Ichi isn't "dark enough" and this manga scratches the itch perfectly.
We just need a secondary human character to kill off to raise the stakes

>>280764202
Kumugi public execution arc soon.

>>280753830
You disgusting pervert. I bet you even want them to do it IN PUBLIC.

>>280767348
Chiyou doesn’t seem to mind

>>280758410
I can't wait one day Kou will push Chiyou down instead

>>280767348
Kou doesn't seem to mind

>>280758135
their readership has no impact on the series and japan at all, don't care
If the series swings to that direction and gets popular, the meltdown on X is gonna be hilarious

>>280768050
IMO the story would be unbearable if you can’t handle the fanservice or flirtation so I’d bet a lot of the Western readers don’t actually mind they are just too embarrassed to admit that.

Usually how many chapters in one volume?

>>280768520
Usually 8
Maybe 7 if you're WSM and got 70+ pages on your first chappy

>>280748242
That's pretty romantic.

>>280768736
Thanks

>>280748445
Okay, maybe I was wrong in my assumption that she would stay in the role of the mother figure.

>>280769132
The whole mother figure thing is just an excuse so they don’t immediately pair up. Kou is gonna have to prove to her that he’s a real man and actually likes her romantically and not as a child.

>>280748502
Now that the setup is out of the way, the story is finally starting. We rarely see fights against giant bosses, so I hope this man-eating tiger doesn't have a normal human-sized form. I'm looking forward to the next chapter. Thanks for the dump, OP.

>>280769233
Is that giant depiction on that panel even its real size? Seems like an exaggeration
It's nesting in an abandoned temple so it should be gigantic but not bigger than the temple itself

>>280769233
I think the tiger monster will be a human sized fujobait character

>>280769359
Maybe he can shrunk himself?

>>280748151
I wonder if this Nue version will do anything helpful... Apparently Nue is only appeared in Japan mythology and not Chinese

>>280748502
>I'm about to learn the hard way
I have a feeling that Kou isn't going to retrieve anything from the tiger boss and almost gets killed which shakes him hard since Chiyou might die as well.
Either something like this >>280750194 happens and the new character takes Kou back to their sect to treat his wounds then he starts training with them or Baize does it then lays out a new training map for him to get stronger slowly

Kek

>>280769867
This is the first arc. He's gonna retrieve the body part but realises he's basically a pariah against the entire pantheon of heavens.

>>280750027
Watch any version of Journey to the West

>>280770589
I don't think JttW talks about Chiyou and Yellow Emperor

>>280770589
Chiyou's creation myth was pre-Buddhism
We'll see when Kaedegami is set if the temple next chapter has a Buddha statue or Tao/folk religion statues instead

>>280770792
But 5000 years have passed since Chiyou was dissected

>>280770891
If you haven't noticed, it's a myth. The author that popularized it was a historian, but this part with Yellow Emperor fighting Chiyou and uniting Ancient China was peak
>Source: trust me bro
Then the Jesuit missionaries came into the picture during Europe's voyage age and mixed the myth with Abrahamic Noah flood into a fucking mess.
If you follow the popular modern dating Kaedegami would be set in 2500 CE lmao

>>280770589
>any version
cool i guess i'm covered by dragon ball

Chiyou owe me findom

>>280748502
China is so big, they even have tigers!

>>280757287
since when Kaedagami is dark or edgy?? last arc is lighthearted and tame. none died. ichi is more brutal to the majik itself, but not to any human chars.
the darkness so far is just teasing. no less. but still not there.

>>280748445
Unf. This is the first time Chiyou’s had lips in his life and he just resigned his kiss virginity like a champ

>>280748445
CUTE!

>>280774336
Once she gets more of her body this bird is gonna turn into a bird of predator and eats human

Paizuri doujin when?

I don't renew any china theme anime/manga that get big, maybe that maomao girl anime anything else? Is this have manga have potential?

>>280774702
*remember
*is this manga have
Sorry im drunk lol

>>280769867
A training arc would be a bad idea, he needs to learn on the job via combat. Or it might turn out this series will be less about flashy fight scenes and more about cunning.

>>280770107
>>280750194
This seems more likely. Kou might care for Chiyou but she has enemies among the Shenguai and professional Shenguai hunters have already been mentioned so he's gonna make enemies for himself among humankind too. Honestly makes me wonder how high the chances are of this ending sadly, Kou is taking a lonely path in his devotion to Chiyou.

>>280774036
I bet she just kissed him on the cheek

>>280774702
Because you're too new?
Kingdom is fucking big in Japan, then Houshin Engi is a successful work coming from wsj as well, Dragon Ball obviously, Saiyuki is famous for seinen readers,...
Maomao barely as famous as those above but it did well for being a story without fantasy elements, Saiunkoku Monogatari and Fushigi Yuugi are both famous chinese theme shoujo back in the day too, Koihime Muso is a popular eroge VN back in 2000s too

>>280774036
No wait
Now that you said it, it was actually THE FIRST TIME Chiyou kisses him!!
I completely forgot she just got her face back recently so all these times when they are cuddling, she couldn't kiss him but NOW she can!!!
And the kissing scene was offscreen???? That's so unfair... Are we expecting a true love kiss one day?

>>280775116
see >>280774875
If they ever lock lips it will not be offscreened

>>280763100
I miss this butt, it got censored this chapter for no reason

>>280768520
7 or 8 chapters for volume 1 because of the first chapter being long
after that every volume has 9 or 10 chapters

I wonder who going to join kou party gor the first time

>>280777850
A Shenguai that was part of Chiyou's old army or a lunatic schizo human who worships her for what she did, kinda like the KKK of Kaedegami (Qin Shihuang actually worshipped Chiyou on top of the usual Yellow Emperor worship).
They'll only join by the 2nd arc though

>>280748502
future teammate? needs fujo pairing to survice in jump

this is monster girl quest but replace alice with chiyou

>>280777965
>Qin Shihuang actually worshipped Chiyou
Oh that's interesting

>>280778780
That'd imply Kou fucking other women (never gonna happen)

>>280778780
Ok but where's my Monster girl dreams inspired manga
actually for that matter where's my monster girl dreams update it was meant to arrive a week ago

>>280777850
Unless he keeps his secrets from others, I don't see any demon hunters would want to team up with Kou and Chiyou
And if the hunter guild knows about Chiyou, they should be after Kou's life. Unless Chiyou has some loyal generals under her... But then the only people he will ever interact are demons

>>280777850
Another titty demon would be nice

I kind of hope it stays just the two of them. I'd be okay for them to run into a (probably newbie and idealistic) shenguai hunter who confronts and fights them, and then after being defeated/reaching a stalemate, they realize that chiyou isn't a threat, but they make a point to regularly cross paths with them to make sure she's still not a threat
and for my self indulgent desire to have chiyou get more lovey dovey with kou, you could make the hunter a girl who falls for kou, and once chiyou picks up on it she'd be openly flirty with kou to mark her territory

>>280780404
>once chiyou picks up on it she'd be openly flirty with kou to mark her territory
Chiyou looks like she is fine with Kou having multiple mistress, and she already openly flirting with him this chapter

>>280780404
Chiyou and Kou's relationship set up is pretty similar to Yukihime and Touta in UQHolder, even the characteristics are quite close. Yukihime didn't mind Touta having harem or any other lovers instead of her because she kind of developed a motherly love for him already so she acts like an encouraging mother whenever girls throw themselves at him. Touta was written to only have eyes for Yukihime but he ended up with a harem anyway and that's when UQHolder went to shit

>>280774848
>Kou is taking a lonely path in his devotion to Chiyou
Oh the donkey lady did saying something like that last chapter. Coincidently, Kou isn't very fond of humans either

My only issue with Kaedegami is Chinese names. Why weren’t they adapted during translation?

>>280780723
It's chinese mythology

>>280780593
>outa was written to only have eyes for Yukihime but he ended up with a harem anyway and that's when UQHolder went to shit
This is why harem is an extremely bad choice here.
Might as well just make side romances. BaiZe can have his fatherhood arc with Nyue. A shenguai hunter can have his own romance arc with a shenguai like Romeo and Juliet. A king can have his own arc with an ordinary girl. Just better stay away from muddling Kou and Chiyou's story.
>>280780723
Just read the original on J+. Surely you can read Japanese right?

>>280780723
Yeah sure let's localize the MC's name to Jamal and Chiyou to Mary, Jamal was abandoned in a swamp in Florida by his Hispanic parents and Mary is a native American goddess who raised him, actually screw that and let's localize the setting to 21st century Manhattan so it's more in tune with our American audience's sensibilities, actually let's replace the donkey transformations last arc for frogs and let's localize the shaobings as hot dogs sold by a kind Somali immigrant in a cart on the street
Let's localize the Chinese peasants as office workers, let's localize Chiyou's tits as silicone implants, let's localize Kou's sword as a loud speaker and let's localize his powers as a skill to rap better than eminem
Let's localize the goal of the story to gather Chiyou's expensive jewelry that is now under the control of America's strongest rappers by beating them in rap battles
Is that localized enough for you or wiggle you also like the manga art to be localized to comicbook style and every volume purchase to come with a free serving of fries?

>>280782401
>Let's localize the goal of the story to gather Chiyou's expensive jewelry that is now under the control of America's strongest rappers by beating them in rap battles
that sounds like a better premise than half of jump's current lineup desu

>>280782332
>BaiZe can have his fatherhood arc with Nyue
>Also grooming but reverse genders
a harem is not bad as long as Kou stays devoted to his motherwife, that's true love

>>280782613
Kek

>>280782401
kek, pretty sure he meant the pronunciation since JP pronounces the names in their own way.
Anyways the Chinese unironically sounds better. Baize>hakutaku

>>280748043 (OP)
>Heavy as it Should Be
When I read this chapter title, my first thought was Chiyou's chiyous

>Your mind appears to remain separated
Maybe future bosses will have demons that take over their human vessels completely

>>280782637
That's just mocking the story
The moment you see a character is there just to be a trophy, like Hina did on BB, that's the moment goodwill just drop to its lowest point.
Why make other romance interest when it's incredibly clear they're not gonna matter

>>280782992
To attract waifufags?
But true, it's best to avoid accidentally creating better girls than Chiyou

>>280783362
Just make other pairings.
It's like you forgot this is Chinese inspired. Three Kingdoms always have numerous ships and the Japs are familiar with them.

>>280775003
>Koihime Muso is a popular eroge VN back in 2000s too
Still getting remakes and spin offs as late as 2024 too

>final antagonist is a shenguai that stole Chiyou's genitals
>the antagonist has hyper rape powers, can create more powerful shenguai that also have sexual powers, brainwash all living beigns and basically is /d/ and /trash/ combined
>it's only defeated by a display of pure vanilla love from Kou and Chiyou

>>280784704
uhhhhhhh if chiyou's pussy got fucked (while separated from her body and attached to someone else) does it count as her being used goods or...?

>>280784312
Lmao

>>280784704
Fucking kek

>>280784914
>chiyou's pussy got fucked while separated from her body
Sound like an onahole

>>280784704
I don't think we will ever get a pure vanilla doujin for Kaedegami