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>>280758638Tactics.
Talking about other squads and agents.
Also, a good chunk glazing osamu.
>>280756899Truly, an isekai protagonist
>>280758638Osamu's future wife.
>>280758919https://e-hentai.org/g/949218/e881dc70d1/
Jackson's POV.
Best KTR probably still has nightmares from this day
>>280758638Borderchan Rank Wars:
>Create your own squad: 2 Average Agents and 1 Ace.>Assign each of them a role (Attacker, Shooter, Gunner, Sniper, Trapper, Spotter).>Set their Triggers in (spoiler) and write your squadโs main strategy also in (spoiler).>Donโt read anyone elseโs spoilers until youโve posted your own.>RulesEach agent must be assigned a role, if he performs out of that role he decreases one rank. Aces are A-Rank, Agents A/B are B-Rank. Only Agents A/B performing out of their role are C-Rank.
Rank System
>A-Rank always wins against 1 B-Rank, loses to 2 B-Ranks at the cost of one, never loses to C-Ranks.>B-Rank always wins against 1 C-Rank, loses to 2 C-Ranks at the cost of one.>C-Rank only wins against other C-Ranks.Altough it may seem obvious, just to clarify: an Ace alone will also lose to an Ace + Agent.
>What if two different roles fight?You still follow the Rank-System.
Example:
>An Ace Sniper vs an Average Attacker = Sniper wins before attacker can close in.>Two Average Attackers vs an Ace Sniper = they close in and kill him, but lose one.>Same-rank fights = stalemates.Stalemates can only be resolved through discussion.
I'm also planning on create a randomizer so you roll your 3-man team between the B-Rank agents but Im waiting untill all of them are revealed.
Format:
Agent A - Role
>Main Trigger 1 / SubTrigger 1>Main Trigger 2 / Sub Trigger 2>Main Trigger 3 / Sub Trigger 3>Main Trigger 4 / Sub Trigger 4Agent B - Role
>Main Trigger 1 / SubTrigger 1>Main Trigger 2 / Sub Trigger 2>Main Trigger 3 / Sub Trigger 3>Main Trigger 4 / Sub Trigger 4Ace - Role
>Main Trigger 1 / SubTrigger 1>Main Trigger 2 / Sub Trigger 2>Main Trigger 3 / Sub Trigger 3>Main Trigger 4 / Sub Trigger 4Strategy: Your Main Strategy Here
>>280758638Just your average day in Border-chan
I'm surprised to see several anons saying they dislike Oji squad. To me they're another squad with a memorable and likeable captain and two inoffensive but less memorable squadmates like Suwa and Arafune squads.
>>280759060This image never gets old
Scorpion nerf FUCKING WHEN!?
>>280759174Grasshopper is the real bullshit.
>>280759187Look like Doctor from Arknights.
These goddamn cliffhangers got me a little to curious so I read ahead a little and now I'm almost at the latest volume....
>>280759112The white glows can't seen in manga format.
They have completely different first impression.
>>280758974I love this image so much.
T2 were always the villains but with Chika placed on top, it shifts the power dynamics and highlights male harem T2 actually is. An evil queen behind the guards and her gentile smile spells doom. Kuga is the enforcer and Osamu will do what he must.
Meanwhile Katori is a cute pumpkin getting raped.
>>280759112I think there's a bit of a difference with Suwa and Arafune's squad mates
Hisato's already shown a fair bit of progression for a side character and Daichi while never getting much presence still manages to pull his weight like him taking out Katori in the final match
Arafune squad mates while not getting as much story focus keep appearing in the sniper sessions consistently showing they're capable.
Oji's team has just had less time for anything like that. Though I do like their shooter being a trigger nerd.
>>280759174>engineers study slime trigger>develop optional trigger for scorpion to turn into similar substance
>>280759235and now you are here with us, waiting, praying for Ahishara. welcome
So how would you design your squad's uniforms, /a/? You're not a chuuni, are you?
Personally I'd copy Yuuba's bomber jacket design but with a darker colour.
>>280759455I like Suwa & Azuma's uniforms, nice and simple. so I would just copy that design with minor adjustments.
>>280758995Agent A - Sniper
>Lightning / Egret >Shield / Shield>Bagworm / Grasshopper>Raygust / HoundAgent B - Sniper
>Lightning / Egret >Shield / Shield>Bagworm / Grasshopper>Raygust / HoundAce - Sniper
>Lightning / Ibis>Shield / Shield>Bagworm / Grasshopper>Raygust / HoundStrategy: Upon arrival everyone activate bagoworm and spread in a wide formation maintaning maximum distance in a way that each can cover-fire the other, if caught out of position at the beginning, agents that are closer to each other will cover-fire and retreat until they can position themselves. That's why all of them are mobile Snipers. Agent A/B will complement each other each peltering enemies from maximum range, meaning that if you pursue they will be far away from each other. The Raygusts are there to help buy time for the sniper to survive if ever caught in meele, giving the other two more time for cover fire and a window for repositioning if possible, grasshopper+bagworm providing mobility for positioning and repositioning.
The Ace will always keep moving and maintaining himself closer than the other two agents, since you need at least two agents to kill him with no losses, you'll need to go through him somewhat if you want to go after the other two snipers, and on close combat he is a B-Rank Attacker/Shooter wich means he can stall a B-Rank Agent alone indefinetely in meele or medium range. Ace also has Ibis to deal with cover-stalling.
After last thread I decided to drop thrusters in favor of Hounds in case we have to deal with chameleon abusers.
Man, I'm proud of this team.
>>280756829Karasawa's reasoning is sound but his casual use of "dispose" and then needing to backtrack is a hint at something darker. Even Netsuki is disturbed, that's really saying something.
>>280759235I love the Tachikawa squad uniform (especially the coat), but Katagiri squad uniform is also growing on me, so something similar to it
>>280758974It was a brutal team combo and that finisher from Kuga was probably pretty scary to experience first hand. But I don't think it will get to him.
>>280759455I love the Tachikawa squad uniform (especially the coat), but the Katagiri squad uniform is also growing on me, so something similar to either of them.
>>280759592He forgot he no longer works for an evil organization. Or at least not an explicitly evil one.
>>280759592Netsuki is a normal PR guy, he isn't some shady character.
Now Karasawa, yeah, he glows.
>>280758604 (OP)Man, I shouldn't have jumped the gun on making the Afterparty and actually finished the volume first.
Eggplant Curry would've been a much better OP.
>>280759524>triple 3x mixed attackers>2 snipers each>with no empty slotsI hope youโve got some trion monsters on your squad
>>280759455I like Kageura squad and their treading the line between insurgent paramilitary organization and boy band. So something like that.
>>280759592Kido IS the leader of the part of the organisation that hates neighbours, and hyuse has zero value as a bargaining chip or POW; Had he not been captured by tamakoma, he would either have been brainwashed, enslaved or killed. We know most neighbouring countries also do the former 2 to the people they kidnap, and by this point meeden has lost thousands of people.
Ashihara clearly prefers lighthearted stories, but his worldbuilding sure isn't naive.
>>280759455Naked for intimidation factor.
>>280759770ICarrying two snipers drains more trion?
I didn't even knew about empty slots, how does that work in practice?
>>280759455>>280759662also Katagiri for me, that white looks really nice and they have cool emblems
>>280759941I want to facefuck Maki
>>280759884Thereโs a trion cost to spawning your weapon. I would imagine theyโre not running around dual wielding snipers. The empty slots allow for more trion for bullets. If youโve got all your slots filled you donโt have much in the way of ammunition.
>>280759884Not that.
But snipers tend to always have bagworm on which costs a fair bit of trion.
Empty slots give you more trion to play with, every trigger you brind with you costs you from your total even if you don't actually use it.
>>280759884The more slots you use, the less effective your triggers, so if you are a trionlet you want to use as few triggers as efficiently as possible.
>>280759941which reminds me they also have a spotter as a role with unique triggers which we'll hopefully see soon
>>280759967>>280759968>>280759979I see, to offset that I'd probably drop Raygust on the Agents and instead of peltering enemies we would focus on making our shots count
>>280759805>hyuse has zero value as a bargaining chip or POWYou're not thinking political enough. A few hundred conquistadors didn't topple the Aztecs through military might. They did it by turning them and their allies against one another. While Meeden is bigger and more populous than anything in the neighborhood, Border is a small fish. Winning other neighbor nations and factions over to their side is the best way for them to make up for their relative weakness.
Gaining a political prisoner who is important enough that Hyrein felt threatened by him is a huge win. Especially since his loyalties put him in direct conflict with the factions on Aftokrator that Border is most likely to have to confront.
>>280759884As others have said, just equipping costs some trion. But honestly, it's probably negligible for everyone not a 2 trionlet like Osamu. He only has two free slots and seems to operate just fine.
>>280760103>seems to operate just fine.have you seen the absolute size of his cubes?
>>280759884Come to think of it, the rationale behind empty slots hasn't actually been explained yet. We have to wait until Usami bakes cookies in Volume 19.
>>280760103It's also that no sniper (most who are in like 5-7 trion range) apart from Chika has a full trigger set, despite there being useful triggers they could always use.
So, a team heavily relying on bagworm use and taking shots might run into similar issues
>>280760103His shots are so weak that no one could tell his asteroids were actually hounds. He is not doing just fine.
>>280760144>>280760288That's because he has 2 trion not because of his slots being filled.
>>280760103Other trionlets Kitora, Yosuke, and Koala also leave themselves with at least 2 slots open. Then again Kageura leaves himself with 3 open despite having 7 trion and a fighting style that barely uses any.
I'd guess that extra triggers are enough of a trion burden that, if you're not going to use them, it's a noticeable waste. But if it is something you're going to use, even sparingly, it's probably worth it unless you're a trionlet.
>>280760076Hyuse absolutely refuses to betray aftocrafter in any way, and border has no contacts they could use to exploit hyuse's current status; you can't apply real life logic here because enemy contries on earth are always reachable, one way or the other, but here border is more often than not completely cut out from the neighbourhood.
>>280760359Kage loses a lot of scorpions, remaking at attacker trigger is costly.
>>280760347Yes but itโs also the reason Osamu was discouraged from installing additional triggers in the scene
>>280760202 describes.
>>280760386Scorpion is way cheaper to make appear than remaking the entire raygust or kogetsu.
>>280760398That's because his total trion is bad not because it'll make his current triggers weaker.
>>280760076Yeah, it occurred to me during this reread that Jin probably was okay with the possibility that Hyuse would succeed in leaving with Galopoula because it wouldn't have been bad for Border. For all the focus on worrying about Hyuse possibly betraying Border, we should remember that Hyrein marooned him basically out of fear that Hyuse would incite an open rebellion against him. He probably would have killed him too, except he wasn't sure how far Viza would be willing to go in harming her former pupil.
So if Border plays their cards right, they can use Hyuse to incite open civil war within Hyrein's faction, while also convincing the other 3/4ths of Aftokrator to remain neutral as they have their own solutions for the next god and don't need Chika.
>>280759968Isn't there a specialized bagworm that's highly efficient but the drawback is yuge?
>>280760508That's bagworm tag I think.
Which is for trappers, it takes up 4 slots on the same hand.
>>280759112It's just unfortunate they're introduced alongside Ikoma squad, who are much funnier and more endearing overall.
>>280760076Yeah, it occurred to me during this reread that Jin probably was okay with the possibility that Hyuse would succeed in leaving with Galopoula because it wouldn't have been bad for Border. For all the focus on worrying about Hyuse possibly betraying Border, we should remember that Hyrein marooned him basically out of fear that Hyuse would incite an open rebellion against him. He probably would have killed him too, except he wasn't sure how far Viza would be willing to go in harming his former pupil.
So if Border plays their cards right, they can use Hyuse to incite open civil war within Hyrein's faction, while also convincing the other 3/4ths of Aftokrator to remain neutral as they have their own solutions for the next god and don't need Chika.
>>280760458Hyrein didn't strike me as the particularly violent type; he didn't hurt reighi went he lost the will to fight and didn't even order for enedora to be killed, he simply told mira to retrieve the black trigger; She was the one that decided to brutally murder the former user in the process.
>>280760144Cube size is proportional to trion level. It would be the same even with all slots filled. He would have just overall less trion to work with.
>>280760273This could be true or part of the reason, but I think Kugaโs reasoning is probably what resonates most with people. If youโre not proficient with a Trigger, you shouldnโt equip it just because you have free slots. The cost could be little or a lot but it's still a cost nonetheless. Also, as another anon pointed out, there are agents with high Trion and unused slots. They just stick with what they like and what works for them.
>>280760632He kidnaps children.
>>280759112Scheming is only cool when Osamu does it apparently. Top rankers doing it is cheating.
>>280760632>he simply told mira to retrieve the black trigger; She was the one that decided to brutally murder the former user in the processThat's a stretch, it's pretty obvious that Mira was executing Hyrein's plan. Although I wouldn't put it past Hyrein to blame it all on Mira if it would be convenient for him.
>>280760632I think killing Enedora was planned regardless, not a spur of the moment decision by Mira. The primary issue was that Enedora was unstable and prone to going rogue. He'd be too much of a risk to leave alive. Hyuse they could at least be sure would stay loyal to his master and not easily give up information or defect to Medeen. They simply underestimated Border's willingness to negotiate with Hyuse.
>>280760656Can't they toughen their shields with the extra trion?
>>280760747Scheming aside, Oji is a cunt.
>>280760373>refuses to betray aftocrafter in any wayhis master*. Hyuse's only loyalty to Hyrein and Aftokrator are through his master's vassal obligations. And even that is tenuous based on Hyrein's fear of him. He is the perfect ally. An opportunistic, disloyal sort like Enedora is easier to turn against his former allies, but he can never be trusted. Hyuse's steadfast loyalty to his master means that it is possible to turn him against other factions in Aftokrator while he remains reliable; he will always act in his master's interests.
Anyone going into the neighborhood expecting to find anyone more devoted to Meeden than their own nation is delusional. The only reason that works with Yuma is because he was a rootless wanderer with a connection to Meeden through his father. And the ones already at border have no other choice after losing their world. People like Hyuse and the Galopoula people whose self serving interests happen to align with Border's are the best you can expect and what Border is going to have to work with if they want to succeed.
>>280760859Is he? I think it's a form of respect that he didn't pull any kids gloves on Osamu.
>>280760859Four eyes is cheating by having neighbor scum in his squad
>>280760616That's a good point. No one can compete with Ikoma squad for likeability and memorability.
>>280760859He's not, he's basically the only one in the whole rank wars that ever treated osamu as an equal.
>>280760762Volume extras state that both rambaein and hyrein are terrified at the prospect of being bethroed to mira, i assume that enedora would be spared if hyrein specifically ordered as such, but otherwise he wants to stay out of mira's way.
Even the black trigger that choose him is specifically unable to hurt flesh and blood directly.
>>280760616Ikoma squad is also more relevant in the long term.
>>280760859Oji is one of the friendliest people in border. He even treats Osamu with respect instead of looking down on him as weak. And unlike Inukai, he isn't bullshitting. He's just a genuinely very friendly guy.
why did everyone forget about the better ktr
>>280761015I also think that Oji being a smart planner fucks him over. His first match ever is against the main character who fills the same role, so Oji is destined to get outplayed and lose at his specialty.
>>280761250but he wasn't outplayed at his specialty, arguably what went wrong from him was focusing too much on tomakoma-2 and completely dismissing ikoma, who proceeded to target both teams at the same time and screw over both his plans and tamakoma's counters, making chaos that yuma benefitted the most from
>>280760931>>280761001>>280761111>>280761184 >"hurr durr did you really think you were good enough"
>*grabs your throat before stabbing you*
ODF fuck off. He doesn't underestimate (his words) Osamu but also doesn't think much of him.
>>280761250Here's hoping he gets up to some fun stuff in the next arc. I think everyone on his squad would be down for some scheming.
>>280761639>also doesn't think much of him.The whole match would disagree.
>>280761185People glimpsed the makings of a real tsundere and not just a bitch
>>280761639He respects Osamu as a strategist but not as a combatant
>>280761639Did you get flashbacks from being bullied at school or something?
>>280761749Something you want to get off your chest, anon?
>>280761128That just means she's the perfect person to do his dirty work. Hyrein has no complaints about the job and even feels the need to defend his actions to Ranbanein (even if Ranbanein is cool with it), so Hyrein was clearly the person making all the decisions.
>>280761639There is no way to lose against Osamu in an 1 vs 1 combat.
Oji respects Osamu as an agent, but he also knows that Osamu as a combatant is a joke.
>>280761723He respects him enough as a combatant that he thinks he needs to die first, by his own hand if need be. His banter was simply pointing out osamu's flaw in overextending himself trying to get results he doesn't have the ability for, just like inukai did when they were fighting - if anything he is clearly paying very close attention.
>>280761911>There is no way to lose against Osamu in an 1 vs 1 combat.Jacksonbros...
>>280761185Should have increase the bust size on her trion body.
>>280761973Osamu is the KING of the lower b rank.
Ok, maybe Yuiga is the king
>>280761723That's true. I'm curious though, what's your reasoning for why he would so casually grab Osamu's throat there? Was it flair?
>>280759060>Chano squad shoots at Yuma the "humanoid neighbor">no Yuma rumors in BorderKido memory wiped Chano squad, didn't he.
>>280762009Not the guy you were talking to, but he's only using one hand there because he's using his other hand to constantly spam Hound at Chika to prevent her from shooting him
>>280762008EXCUSE me? Yuiga is ELITE A-RANK #1. You'd do well not to forget it.
>>280762009Obviously because he's a chuuni and thinks it looks cool
>>280762036that only reached the higherups, they were probably told the gist and to keep it a little quiet.
>>280762051 Something tells me casually grabbing an enemies throat isn't a requirement for activating Scorpion.
>>280761973>Fails all of his shots despite being IN FRONT OF HIMJesus fuck
He's so bad
>>280762036>if you say anything we're kicking you out of border and mind wiping you and your entire extended family
>>280762162It just looks classy in the video stream.
Oji lives living up to his surname.
>>280762009To surprise osamu.he practised enough to instinctively use raygust to block a glowing scorpion heading his way, but an outreched and was completely unexpected to he froze a fraction of second to think over what ouji was trying to do. Yuma would have had the expericence to automatically chop ouji's arm before he would have been able to touch him
>>280762162It isn't, but if you grab someone before activating it, you get a guaranteed hit.
He's was in the middle of switching from hound to scorpion, and had his other hand busy with Kogetsu that Osamu was blocking.
Is the story still pretending that glasses protag's presence has any value?
>>280761973To be fair, that was 3 vs 1 combat.
>>280762009It's a mixup. You can't block grabs.
>>280761973Aren't trion bodies meant to be enhanced, hence why people can leap to buildings and such? How is Jackson not just kicking Osamu off?
>>280762302Just tech the grab, it's that easy.
>>280762308Because Osamu is in a trion body himself but also Jackson is a bitch
>>280762009To surprise osamu. Osamu practised enough to instinctively use raygust to block a glowing scorpion heading his way, but an outreched arm was completely unexpected, so he froze for a fraction of second to think over what ouji was trying to do. Yuma would have had the experience to automatically chop ouji's arm before he would have been able to touch him.
>>280762273No need to pretend anymore. He's genuinely useful now beyond being a combat operator.
>>280759187Osamu picking up wires was the best possible thing he could have done as both an agent and a team leader. It may have been just a 15-minute lecture like Kitora said, but it was the best advice imaginable for him.
>>280762241Sometimes the odds are just against you.
>>280762308he's getting pushed down by raygust, a heavy blade, by another trion body.
I'm pretty sure that outside of height and weight, all trion bodies are physically the same either way,
>>280759187I've been looking for this pic forever. Thanks anon
>>280762347Osamu has improved. But he's still the kind of guy to panic under pressure and just hold down back.
>>280761185Kitora got overshadowed by basically all the other female characters. When she was the only female character at the start of the series, she was noticeable. Then Chika, Usami, and Konami were introduced, and she started losing relevance. She hung onto it for a bit by being the only female character to get some combat time, and having a crush on Torimaru. Then during the invasion she got eaten by a rabbit and sat out the rest of it, while Konami got to start to show her strength in combat which made Kitora look like a rookie. Following the invasion, various jokes and remarks in character bios made it clear that she was just one of many girls at Bordre with a crush on Torimaru, so that ceased being relevant. While as the rank wars went on, Chika started growing as a combatant, Usami got more screentime as T-2's operator, and Konami both got a lot of screentime during the down time guarding Hyuse and being a mentor/defacto big sister to T-2, and got to show off her combat skills even more during the Galopoula raid. During which time the story also introduced other female characters like Nasu who looks far more impressive in combat than Kitora, and Kako who's theoretically strong and has a much more fun personality. While Kitora's big accomplishments during this time were helping stall one enhanced trion soldier offpanel, and very haughtily recommending that Osamu try using wires. The trend continued with Katori being introduced as a capable combatant who's just as bitchy as Kitora, but is far more expressive than the cold Kitora, and has a far more interesting background than we've seen from Kitora. That bring us to the current point of the storytime, but you can see the general trend which doesn't really improve for her.
So people paid attention to Kitora at the start when she was the sole female star in the series. And they stopped as it became clear she was just one jealous, petty female character not particularly important in combat or the story.
>>280762513Osamu should evolve into a gorilla that never holds down back at all and just mashes DP on wakeup.
>>280758995If you wanna get very funny we could make a way to determine random terrain or who gets to pick it.
Agent A - Shooter (Captain)
>Asteroid / Asteroid>Meteor / Hound>Dummy Beacon / Bagworm>Shield / ShieldAgent B - Sniper
>Egret / Egret>Viper (Handgun 1911) / Empty>Grasshopper / Bagworm>Shield / ShieldAce - Attacker
>Scorpion / Scorpion>Spider / Chameleon>Escudo / Bagworm>Shield / ShieldStrategy: While it doesn't follow the rules of the game I am sticking with my funny tactic with some adjustments.
Agent A focuses on setting things up, but not in a defend the castle way. He is leaving trails of meteor landmines and dummy beacon set to run in other directions. Salamander for long range, other composite shots no always doable because B rank.
Agent B is there for covering fire with Erget Range and using the Viper handgun to detonate said landmines. Grasshopper is for running away and also throwing enemies around. Works with Agent A plenty.
The Ace is there to hunt people down and possibly regroup with A or B if he needs the help. The stalemate breaker. For a non-trionlet he can use Spider to grab people, lay traps, and to help get around. And Chameleon for decisive ambushes.
A typical match has Ace and Agent A fighting as dirty as possible with Agent B on supporting from firing lanes. Ace can also turn Meteor landmines into Meteor tripmines and use Escudo / Spider to help isolate targets.
>>280762189Master class soon
>>280758919Rokuro loves Hana
Yuta loves Yoko.
Hana suggest Rokuro and Yuta fucking their difference away.
Is that NTR?
>>280759455Very chuuni AND edgy actually. Those tacticool jacket with a bunch of random pockets, a long coat. and standard WW combat helmet (when I think about, it's pretty similar to Fallout's NCR Ranger gear without a gas mask).
>>280758995Glad to see this again, I missed the last afterparty.
Agent A - Gunner
>Assault Rifle(Asteroid +speed +range --power)/Scorpion>Grasshopper/Bagworm >Shield/ShieldAgent B - Sniper
>Lightning/Bagworm>Ibis/Shield>Grasshopper/Empty>Shield/EmptyAce - Gunner
>Shotgun(Asteroid ++power --range)/Raygust>Bagworm/Thruster>Shield/EmptyShotgun is designed to have a shortened barrel
Strategy: Sniper is the Captain, making callouts and providing support (I also assume a Sniper can give more info over the whole battlefield to the Operator). Gunner is focused on mobility and harassment, and I chose Scorpion instead of another gun for more precise shots and just in case they go up against an Attacker. Ace is focused on closing in with Bagworm and defense mode Raygust, charging in with Thruster, and then firing point blank with power-maximized Shotgun (shortened barrel so it's easier to fire around the Raygust and prevent a Kazama vs Osamu draw.
>>280761973Ashihara once mentioned that the idiot trio that gave Yuma the points to be B rank are stronger than Osamu.
Losing against Osamu must be very embarrassing.
Does Trion continuously leak from wounds, or is it only for a short period of time? I think the anime made it seem like the latter.
>>280763228I thought it was the former, it continuoulsy leak from wounds.
>>280763228It's only for a short time, although the severity of the damage might cause it to leak longer. That's why they're willing to cut arms and stuff. They'll never bail out from that alone.
>>280763228Only for a while, eventually it stops leaking
>>280763228They leak from wounds, but trion bodies have a self repair function that eventually stops the bleeding unless the damage is too extensive or the body runs out of trion.
>>280763228Depends on the size of the wound as I recall. Trion bodies are good about shutting down small leaks, but stuff like Yuma getting his side blow out takes longer to stop. Hence why he used a scorpion as a temporary bandage, but was okay turning it off later in the match.
A remainder that they would have gotten 8 points if Chika used a normal Hound instead of Lead Hound.
>>280763619Mkura saving Katori's ass from the big black long rod.
>>280758604 (OP)Pfft, if he used kogetsu he wouldn't have been wounded in the first place.
>oh Scorpion can form a new footDon't lose your foot, shithead.
>>280763619>only functional member of squadHe's earned it.
>>280763518they would have had more if chika wasn't shooting leads in general
>>280763518True, her Lead Hound definitely looks impressive, but her regular Hound is better considering it can just blast through shields and only needs one hand
>>280763518They also would have gotten 4 free points in the snow match if she'd been aiming to kill. But in both cases, if she could do that, then the opponents would have acted differently to begin with.
>>280763619Katori cake must be protected at all cost
Why does Katori bully her male teamates by making them wear the faggiest uniform on boder?
>>280764183She's a brat needs wire correction!!
>>280764183Did you see their squad room? Humiliating them is clearly a hobby of hers.
>>280762732Its
>>280762554 here. I'm a sucker for white/grey uniforms for more urban camo. Probably a nice high collar as well. (Popping it is optional).
This is a battle of range unless its a majorly indoor map. Lightning and Ibis means your Sniper is gonna have to work those legs and grasshopper to get in range faster since Egret has the longest range. Your Ace takes out either of my agents once he gets close. Raygust + Thruster means good burst, but also straight lines. Probably easier for him go get my Shooter than Sniper. A fight between our aces could go either way, though I'd give yours the edge. Mine isn't a super mobile, but still has Spider for getting around. Amped up Asteroid would chunk the Escudos. Raygust isn't your guys forte, but I think the stronger shields can help deal with someone that isn't insane, just pretty good, with Scorpion.Between our Shooters you have the range advantage, but once the distance is closed even a little by mine I think mine has the edge with the more powerful shots + Hound to help with Grasshopper. Your sniper being the captain means they probably have a better idea of figuring out which beacons are the real deal or not to shut that down. Though that could leave him open to being caught by my own Ace. Probably my own personal biased to give myself the edge, but I could see times where your Ace simply guns mine down then hunts down my Shooter, leaving my Sniper to have to take what points they can get then bail.
>>280764183I feel bad for Fagson. It's not so bad on Miura but, with the glasses, the blue eyes, the white hair.
Dude's look like he came straight out of a pride parade.
>>280764370The hair style too.
Poor dude.
>>280760894You think Hyuse would be willing to betray Aftokrator as a whole if Border helps save his master and/or overthrows House Veltiston and installs House Ellin in its place?
>>280764321To be fair, the implication that I got is that the squad room is basically Hana's house (seeming like she didn't want to just freeload with Katori's family).
So I can understand it being a bit restrictive on them, though it still feels unfair.
I want osamu with a handgun trigger and raygust for that riot police aesthetic.
>>280764410I mean, the haircut is his own fault.
>>280764548Cushion only for Katori.
Living room is the nap room for Katori.
The only thing the males are allowed to touch are the 2 small circular chair in the living room.
This should make it easy to understand who are the talented ones and those who need to change their training regime.
>>280762437I found my WT folder from the last storytime, so many rare Osamus
>>280765528>Rajinmaru after YoutarouWasn't he with Youtarou from the start, or was he created after they made the main base?
>>280765528Hey, the idiot trio has real names. Real last names, at least. Their firsts sound like nicknames.
>>280765528Wow there are a lot of A rankers from only 2-1 years ago. I wonder if there is a hidden reason why Suwa Squad are B rankers despite being around longer or if they just aren't good enough.
>>280765528Kakizaki joined 4 years ago and is still at B rank. Biggest shitter.
Suwa joined 3 years ago and he is still in B rank.
Tsutsumi joined 3 years ago, a little later than Suwa, and he is still in B rank.
Osano and Kagami are the only operator between in the 3 and 4 years ago joining group who is still at B rank.
Between the 2 years ago joiner, it seems to be more divided.
Katori squad joined together and are in the group of the early joiners of 2 years ago group and are stuck in B rank. Arafune also joined in that batch and he is in B rank, but we can argue that he is not interested in raising his rank.
The 1 year ago joiners are quite something and I think it's thanks to Border having a better training regime with more mentors.
Everyone except Makoto, Itsuki, Takeru and Taichi are very strong.
>>280765766The idiot trio joined later than Osamu and are stronger than him.
>>280765699 I thought so too but that date nesciates otherwise. She was probably born when the World Trigger at Border was integrated. Which i think happened when they went public?
>>280765528Sakurako is quite amazing to be important for the management despite joining 2 years ago and not be a part of an A-rank team.
>>280765528Kitora entered only a year before Osamu, is a triolet and still made it to A rank
Truly a superior specimen
>>280765912Sounds right, I think they mentioned that the MT base was made after they went public.
Popularity chart (pre Ikoma).
>>280766010Youtarou has a great future here.
Wants to be popular and he is extremely popular.
Katori wants to be super popular too, but she is beat by Nasu who doesn't care about it.
Karasuma, Arashiyama and Narasaka are the hotte trio who doesn't care about it.
Wakamura is actually popular. I guess Border girls like his faggy outfit.
RAIJINMARU, the sexiest girl in Border.
>>280766010But megane also ranked high on popularity pollโฆ
>>280766010kinda feel a little bit bad for Fuyushima
>>280766010Yuiga-bros...you are an outlier
For someone as abrasive as Kageura, he's fairly popular, Osamu tier. I would expect him to rub the wrong way in morepeople
>>280766118That's in our world popularity, in their world full of ikemen, he is a bit bellow average.
If Osamu cared about it, he would remove his glasses.
>>280762732I'm
>>280759524 I dropped my Raygusts on the Agents for more Trion.
Since you don't have chameleon I'd also drop the Hounds for more trion. I think I'll go with my standard strategy here. But your Sniper doesn't carry double shield for full defense so I'd focus fire on them at the first chance I get, might want to correct that, the same for your Ace, although he does carry a Raygust, my strategy would be wait for him to drop it and go for the shotgun to focus fire 2 egrets+lightning.
The school smarts charts.
>>280766230You missed the shield in slot 2 for the sniper.
>>280758995Agent A - Captain/Gunner
Meteor (Grenade Launcher) / Asteroid (Assault Rifle)
Teleporter / Hound (Assault Rifle)
Shield / Shield
- / Bagworm
Agent B - Sniper
Egret / Shield
Ibis / Bagworm
Grasshopper / -
Shield / -
Ace - Attacker
Kogetsu / Scorpion
Senku / Teleporter
Grasshopper / Bagworm
Shield / Shield
Strategy: Ace is mobile and tricksy using teleports and grasshoppers to mix up spacing, close distance, and nothing personnel people. Prioritizes stronger opponents, particularly those that pose an immediate threat to Agent A.
Agent A ideally wants to support Ace by using meteors to break up entrenched positions, disrupt squad cohesion, and just generally create chaos for Ace to pick people off. Uses gunfire either to double team Ace's opponents or suppress whoever he's not fighting. Will go full attack (yes, with meteors) if he feels like he can get away with it. Mostly just teleports for better positioning or defensively to get out of trouble; both he and ace wear Ikoma goggles.
Agent B is a pretty standard sniper. The grasshopper is just for quick repositioning and fleeing. Watches over other two, countersnipes, and keeps opponents honest.
If Agent A goes down Ace and B shift towards assassinations and kill steals. If Ace goes down A tries to flush people out for B to snipe.
>>280766256Katori has an weird placement there.
>>280766256Considering that Konami goes to an ojou sama school, Konami is not stupid in school, but I bet that a lot of her perfomance is because she believes everything they teach her so she remembers it right away.
>>280766282Oh shit.
Forget the focus firing them. Back to standard strategy. and wait for the ace to drop Raygust.
>>280766256Imagine being lower than Raijinmaru
>>280766256Ah, so this is where those scales on the trion and position affinity calculator came from.
How were Jin's grades middling? He can cheat.
>>280766256I forgot Yuma even goes to school.
>>280766256>Kitazoe says he has average grades.>Gets worse grades than a rodent.
>>280766256Konami placement suprised me
Also Osanu Rui checks out from what i remember from the homework arc
>>280766320Remember she's getting these grades with no studying
Their real physical abilities.
>>280766256My retarded wife Kunichika
>>280764183yeah her uniform looks great on her but sucks on her teammates. i hope wakamura takes hyuse's advice and forms his own team when katori goes on the away mission
>>280766448It's not that, it's just that she's more liberal arts oriented than sports oriented (?)
Also, would Katori be mad if she saw that Hori fattened her up?
Their taste in the opposite gender.
Nasu and Kumagai are included, I thought they were gay.
>>280766513Seems like everyone is confident she'll make it.
Including me.
>>280766568Kunichika likes the energetic and good looking guys.
>>280766568So Konami doesn't care about looks?
>>280766568Satori is "as long as it has a hole"
>>280766568Katori is the opposite of what Osamu wants, Chika's got this.
>>280766568>Katori wants a well behaved good looking guy...
>>280766568Konami and Teruiya likes a cheeful, energetic ugly bastard
>>280766010>Satori is the least popular of the Arashiyama squadThey didn't see it...
>>280766754Opposites attract.
>>280766759She is going to be disillusioned once she meets Karasuma. He is a hottie who is well behaved in public, but in private he is a nasty troll.
I can't say I ship them exactly.
But man, oh man, do I want to see these two fighting together.
>>280766796Nah, that's exactly what she wants. Karasuma is "composed" almost all the time. What you're talking about is his personality, which doesn't concern Katori.
>>280766920Oh c'mon, really?
>>280766759Is there any stance of Mikumo being called good-looking ever?
>>280766592i didn't think it was ever possible at first. but on a reread, they immediately joke about her going at least twice. and now her teammate is told he can improve better without her. however there's a big counterargument: she has a date with karasuma now. so i dunno.
I just want to say that I understand Jackson.
>>280767090The date just makes it more likely that she'll have to go.
Can also set up some death flags. She ain't coming back guys.
>>280767021Osamu without his glasses is a literal Karasuma clone.
Rate my team.
I'm the operator
>>280766010Funny thing. The operators of the top teams are generally popular.
>>280767091>saves her friends family over her own because the rumble looked lighterThose screws aren't loose, they are missing, anon.
>>280767217I can't really respect teams without snipers.
But I'd love to watch these three together.
>>280767291I wonder how much different would have been if Hana had Jin's side effect.
>>280766568based Ashihara
>>280767197He had 3 spider cubes before getting necked.
>>280766568>Nasu is attracted to a cheerful guy with good personalityShe's not gay but I never had a chance...
>>280766184>Q.063: It seems Fuyushima-san was scouted by the operator Maki Risa and got his front-lines job, but how did Touma-san join?As he was idling around with no intention of forming a team, he was scolded by the then middle schooler Maki Risa to โdo some workโ, started enjoying himself somehow and formed a team. Fuyushima-san joined after that.
>Q.064: Why is Fuyushima-san weak to high school girls?Because he wasnโt popular in high school.
>>280767217I can imagine Mikumo trying to talk about team strategies while Katori on her cellphone tells him to shut up because he's a four-eyes and Ikoma trying to show Mikumo this new Curry Place he found out about.
>>280765528>Kitora, Midorikawa and Futaba made it to A rank in less than a yearDamn, they sure cucked a lot of people huh.
No wonder an insecure brat like Katori gets so frustrated, people can get left behing really fast in Border.
>>280767291I think the idea there is that she didn't think she could save them. Either because she couldn't get to them or because she assumed they'd already been crushed to death. So she figured she should at least try and save her friend.
>>280767512To her credit, she would be A-Rank if:
1st - She didn't try to be a Captain.
2nd- She wasn't in such a bad team.
>>280767465>grown man railroaded by middle schooler
>>280765793They don't have an ace in their team.
Their teamwork is good and Suwa is a good captain. Remember that even if they were half joking, the strategy to hold Yuma for 2 seconds was a solid one. Suwa was also the one who lured Enedora to the training room.
>>280766568Wow Kuga cares about looks more than I thought.
>>280767601He is into tanned tomboys.
>>280767589Suwa and his team are exactly where they should be, and that's no demerit.
Not everyone needs to be A rank.
I think I know why Suzunari 1 always tries to protect their captain.
>Q.087: What is Kuruma-sempaiโs favourite instant noodles flavour?
It is Tomato flavour, but since Taichi loves that he doesnโt eat it himself.
>>280767699>Q.090: Why is the genuine evil Taichi always wearing a hat? Is there any meaning to the fact that it has ears?Seeing Youtarouโs helmet, Kuruma-sempai bought it for Taichi as he worries over Taichiโs clumsiness. Taichi cherishes and wears it all the time.
Hyuse is on Konami's level.
>Q.106: Whose clothes was that hoodie with the horn mark Hyuse was wearing in Tamakoma Branch? (multiple)
It is from Borderโs supplies that Usami added a needlepoint design to on Youtarouโs orders.
>Q.107: Does Hyuse think Raijinmaru is a dog
He thinks โMidenโs dogs have large faces, but thatโs whatโs so good about itโ.
>>280767564She's A-tier in terms of combat, especially if someone else is giving her [competent] commands. We haven't seen much A-tier combat but if you think back to T1 holding off the HQ kill squad in the beginning, Katori would definitely be able to handle herself in that mess.
>>280765848>The 1 year ago joiners are quite somethingWhen Yuma and Chika enlisted Suwa and Tsutsumi were talking about the previous group being really good. But there's also some selection bias here. There's way fewer of them on this chart. Which means their shitters probably haven't filtered up out of C rank yet.
>>280767465Why not call it Maki squad at this point?
For the anon who asked if composite bullets can be made between different people.
>Q.144: Can bullets generated by different people be joined together into one composite bullet?
It seems to be impossible at this point. If it was possible you can probably make a Spirit Bomb or something.
>>280763518bro if Chika is acting like a normal soldier then she would make an ibis-blocking fixed shield and spam meteor like some sort of unassailable god
>>280766568>Konami looks for energetic and good personalityFUCK
>>280767731>>280767699Suzunari-1 is so cute. They're like a doting father, protective older brother, and energetic little brother.
>>280768043>at this pointSo it's totally possible, they just need to see a neighbor do it to try it themselves
>>280768098Don't forget the operator. She is the sister who is exasperated at Taichi's clumsiness.
They don't have an accuarium due to an accident and I bet that was Taichi's fault too.
>>280768127>Hyrein uses his egg to steal everyone's trion and summons a blue whale
>>280768043I still want to know how composite Gunner bullets work. Is it same side or both sides?
>Q.155: Please tell us when Raygust was developed as well as the story behind its development.
Terashima Raizou (18), a top class Kogetsu wielder at the time, got pissed off at the enhancing and popularity of bullet triggers and transferred to Engineer, where he made Raygust as an anti-bullet trigger blade with Shield and Scorpion as the base. This was when Raizou gained weight.
>>280768151>Blue WhalesNo mammals, unfortunately.
>>280768186>REEEEEEEE HOW DARE THOSE SHOOTERS
>>280768155I think you need the bullets to be in different triggers unless it's a gunner trigger which can hold 2 bullets at a time, although if you do that, the gun can only fire the composite bullet.
>>280761185because someone superior showed up. this poll is ancient, current day would be much worse.
>>280763228>Q.179: Is there any way to plug trion leakage when trion bodies are damaged?Trion bodies have a function that automatically closes the wound (stops the bleeding), so unless itโs a very big wound the trion leakage will stop in 1 minute even if it is left alone. If it is plugged with hands or something, I think there can be even less leakage.
>>280766307>>280762554 here.
Teleport is gonna be a real pain for my squad. My Ace can handle it somewhat with Escudo since it based on line of sight iirc, but the others have got to play the prediction game. Our Snipers are about even with range. Yours has more power, but if they somehow wound up close to one another mine would have the edge. Could be an angle to play off of if it came down to it since in a snipe off yours has the advantage with an Ibis. Both our Captains are big meteor fans which makes me think they might get along. Your Gunner would certainly blow away traps laid, but that opens them up to retaliation Salamander. I feel sorry for whatever third squad is stuck in a match with both of ours since we both fairly chaotic squads.
>>280767999Because they ultimately made Fuyushima the captain. Which is a formal rank and gives him some responsibility, so that Maki isn't doing everything administrative herself and they don't have to trust Toma to do anything more than sniper stuff.
>>280768261Yeah, for shooters we know they have to be on opposite sides. And, like you said, for gunners we know a gun that fires composites can only fire composites. But, as far as I know, it's never been confirmed if a composite shooting gun occupies two slots on the same side or one on each side. I'm inclined to believe it would be the former since it just makes more sense conceptually and the latter would be total trash. But no one uses them so maybe that's why.
>Q.191: What will happen if you liquefy or gasify with โVorvorosโ in the middle of a rainstorm?
You can hide in the surrounding rainwater or puddles if you liquefy so you are super strong, but you will probably lose to the wind and be blown away if you gasify so you are super weak.
For those who think it's weird that Osamu didn't know about trion until he was given a lesson by Replica-sensei.
>Q.203: Is the concept of โtrionโ not made public?
It is only made known to those who are B-rank or above, but even C-rank agents seem to hear about it somehow or other. There are also many corporations within Borderโs sponsors who are interested in trion technology, so people like those and officials of Mikado City that Border coordinates with receive an explanation to some extent.
>>280761973>>280762241>taught by Inukai for half a year>point blank shot>Osamu couldn't break his shield with a raygust slash and was moving downwards on a predictable trajectorythis is beyond embarrassing, its either a blunder of unspeakable proportions that haunts your nightmares or complete incompetence.
>>280768477>C-rank agents seem to hear about it somehow or otherI wonder if it has anything to do with the rank wars matches that they are allowed to watch with commentary that frequently mentions trion?
>>280762036No, they are just retarded.
>Q.220: How much awareness is there in Border that Yuuma is a Neighbour?At this point, excluding Tamakoma branch, it seems the only ones who know are Borderโs upper management and those who participated in the fight over the Black Trigger (volume 3 & 4). People like Chano squad are also pretty suspicious.
Usami is a top tier operator.
>Q.232: Why are there more 4 people composition squads including the operator than 5?
Because increasing combatants from 3 people to 4 people adds to the operatorโs burden by a lot, and, unable to provide sufficient information support, agents actually get taken down more easily. It can be said that teams that win with four agents is a testament to the skills of their operator.
>Q. 233: What exactly do the operators do? (multiple)
They project various information in the field of view of the agents in battles in real time. Tags for enemies displayed on Radar, routes for the squad to regroup or escape paths, warnings for enemies coming from the side or back and for snipers, predictions of enemy movements, development diagrams for strategies, etc. etc. The more skilled the operator, the better they can narrow down the displayed information to only whatโs important, and make it so that agents can take it in naturally.
>>280766010Those 4 squares between the Yuiga & the wall? Osamu & fat cat. Osamu takes half a square.
>>280766256>Katori on top of Osamu>vol 14 versionso this begun quite some time ago
>>280766496man, Osamu is in the gutter. Reiji needs to kick his nerd ass harder.
>>280766568Yeah, Osamu is lying but he is not aware of it. That one quip about his mother shows that females below 11 don't even register on his radar as females.
>>280768694Which Operator is most likely to give agent directions in the form of the Crazy Taxi arrow?
>Q.267: Tamakoma 1st is called the strongest squad, but frankly speaking are they stronger than Tachikawa squad?
Thanks to the existence of the keyperson Yuiga Takeru, I can state conclusively that Tamakoma 1st is definitely stronger.
>>280767021This is how he looks without glasses and it is long before he hits his actual peak looks. In 2-3 years border will have a second Torimaru situation if not worse. We know his mother is in the tier of her own and we also know that she solo killed his father by jumping on him without mercy. So his dad is bound to be good looking too. Osamu may delay it by hiding behind glasses but he is not escaping his bishonen fate.
>>280766568knowing that Nasu is heterosexual is enough for me
her preference is boring though
>>280768989Osamu will NEVER remove his glasses so no one will know how good he looks
>>280765528>there are people who remember every one of these characters' names
>>280767291We were shown that her household was abusive, she didn't have any friends and her room looked like a library. Worse yet she spent time in Katori's house where both parents adored their children and were friendly and nice people, a complete fucking opposite of what she saw through her life.
She double taped them to make sure before moving on to pull out Katori.
>Q.012: If Chika-chan could activate Fuujin, how many strands of light can she manifest?
About 50~60 strands it seems. It probably wonโt look like a sword anymore.
>>280766256>>280766496>>280766568Is this what the trion quiz is based on?
>Q.017: Please tell us more instances of Konami-sempai being tricked. (multiple)
Being told if you turn a dry battery round and round it will recharge and doing so for 30 minutes, being told a kappa appeared in the river and lying in wait with a camera for a whole day, being told if you swallow gum your stomach will explode and going to the hospital crying, etc.
>>280768596In fairness to them, it's a kind of confusing situation from their perspective. They ID'd him as a Neighbor purely because he wasn't using a Border trigger, and possibly because he was skilled at enlistment. Then Arashiyama squad showed up, saved their asses from a Rabbit, and told them Kuga was "one of us", and they may or may not have overheard Tokieda and Kitora talking with him about his black trigger. Then they were distracted by the base being bombed, after which Arashiyama reported things directly to Shinoda and Kido. Who clearly know who Yuma is, identify him mostly as a black trigger user, and Kido orders Yuma to stick with Arashiyama squad and stay clear of other agents so they mistake him for a Neighbor like Chano squad did.
So as far as Chano squad might know from what they've been told and from likely overheard conversations, he's using a black trigger that's in Tamakoma's possession, but the higher ups don't seem to be acting like he's a Neighbor, and they don't have any other confirmation he's a Neighbor. What are they supposed to think under those circumstances?
>>280769108My stupid bird wife
I think Four Eyes trion should reach 3 by the time the combat test ends, considering Kitori went from a trionlet to low trio (4) in a short time
>>280767999Fuyushima is a trapper. You can't really strategize for the trapper... Also I think he would find it too humiliating to be on high scholar squad so Maki gave him a bone so he wouldn't cry in the corner.
>>280766727>Q.034: Satori put โgirlsโ in the things he likes, but does he have a type or any hangups?He doesnโt. He falls in love with all types of girls equally.
>>280768155As far as I understood Gunners couldn't make composites. Unless maybe the Connector trigger that Konami uses to combine her axes could be modified to work on a pair of guns instead.
>>280768925we know a few actually do this but I don't remember the teams. they highlight sniper sightless & shit like that with them.
Tachikawa trivia:
>Q.052: Tachikawa called Kumagai โKumaโ, but what relationship do they have?
The relationship of a university student who read the kanji for โKumagaiโ wrong 6 times in a row, and a broad-minded female high schooler who tolerates that.
>Q.053: Tachikawa called Suzunari Firstโs Betsuyaku โTaichiโ, could this be because he canโt read the kanji โBetsuyakuโโฆ?
โItโs not that I canโt read it, Iโm just not sureโ is how it is.
>Q.054: Why did Tachikawa-san grow a beard?
โBecause I was told having a beard make you look smart!โ, because of a dumb reason like that
>Q.055: What can Tachikawa-san do besides fighting?
He can grill mochi nicely on an earthen charcoal brazier.
>Q.056: Did Tachikawa-sanโs eyes become grid-shaped because he burned the mesh for grilling his beloved mochi into his eyes?
Thatโs it. Thatโs probably why.
>>280769052one day Katori will bash them off
>>280769108bullying Konami too tears should be punished by fighting her.
Pick your 3 man squad anon.
Print each name (Ctrl+Shift+S can help, don't cheat c'mon) the next two squads posted will be your adversaries on a 3-way.
https://wheelofnames.com/cq8-jfw
>Q.100: What is Commander Kidoโs favourite movie?
The Great Escape.
>>280769369I got Kuruma, Hyuse, and Yuba but I'm too retarded to prove I'm not lying
>>280769423Kek, no worries.
>>280769369>Fumika>Inukai>IkomaHoly shit this squad is insane
squad
md5: 348bf23d448026f3457cd8daa71e0d8e
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>>280769369I want a 4 man squad.
3
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>>280769369pretty good rolls.
My Ikoma/Nasu crackship...
>>280769489sure but your operator is Rokuta.
>>280769106You might be on to something there. It does seem like tuning the bars to approximate Fuyushima's graph positions is the only way to get Trapper compatibility.
>>280755003>omoshiroiEven here?
WHO
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>>280769369I'm forever doomed in lower B
>>280769470>>280769369Let's put on a new rule, if a team repeat agent, it's moved to next fight.
So now it would be:
A
>Satoshi Mizukami>Hisato Sasamori>Sumiharu InukaiB
>Tetsuya Kuruma>Hyuse>Takuma YubaC
>Fumika Teruya>Hiro Kitazoe>Kai MinamisawaMy predictions:
Team A plays it smart and can snag weakened survivors for cleanup points.
Team B wins by sheer quality. Hyuse and Yuba are top-tier and can reliably secure kills.
Team C starts strong but fades, too linear.
>>280769558Ikoma can cook and is pretty entertaining, if she likes his antics it would work, otherwise doomed. On that note he can always take Obishima they seem to work well together.
>>280769559I will just remove the last member. Bye Teruya.
>>280768387In addition to blocking vision, escudos would also provide some protection against meteors, so that would be a big help for your squad. Although, like you say, the wires and meteor traps would get cleaned up pretty quick.
Despite the big difference in overall strategy, our squads are quite similar in makeup. I think it would come down to a fight between the aces. If yours is able to do some good initial damage with a stealth strike then it snowballs in your favor. But if they both end up clashing in more of standard fight I think mine would have the advantage. Although your captain would be the juiciest prize. Taking him out would make it a lot easier to flush out the other two.
>>280769558>cheerful (technically)>good personality (technically)holy shit
>>280769369Daichi is the Suwa squad guy right?
Pretty good
>>280769605Forgot to reply to
>>280769423 and
>>280769489No Rei for you, 3 members only.
Also Nasu is mine, fuck you.
>>280769587Hokari actually outperformed Arafune in sniper training.
Kotaro is about a year away from being an ace.
Sorry about Taichi.
>>280769369>Hiro Kitazoe>Shinnosuke Tsuji>Kazuto TonookaAlmost got the Squad 4 comp. Though this is an incredibly well-balanced and chill team. This is a comp I could unironically see go far, even without any of the aces.
>>280756250>>280756259>>280756256>>280756346>operator burdenWhy don't they just have two operators then?
>>280769643You don't have a good personality nor a cheerful one.
>>280769631I wonder if Azuma could mold Taichi into an actual combatant, technically Taichi isn't a retard...
>>280766256oh no, oh no no no no. He is worse than Tachikawa.
>>280769369>Hyuse>Water god>GodzumaI'm made
>>280769696too many people
>>280769712nta but Nasu is made for rape. her consent is an active determent to enjoying her bedridden body, she needs to break and accept her fate after I'm done having fun savoring her futile resistance not before.
>>280769369Yukari Obishima
Kazuto Tonooka
Tetsuji Arafune
Not sure about this composition, two snipers and a non-ace level all-rounder seems dicey.
>>280769369You know what I learned from this?
Hyuse is a slut.
>>280769696two operators sound awful, imagine the possible infighting between the two when they are supposed to be the most important part of the team.
But anyway, if you keep increasing the members on a team it's simply better to divide them.
>>280769782He really needs to get back to Aftokrator, pls understand
>>280769781You have Yuba squad without Yuba and Arafune is a stable 8k sniper for quite some time. I'm just saying it would be high time for him to move on to the next class.
>>280769135They probably assume he's like Amo but wanted to do rank wars so he shelved the BT.
Why is Fumika acting like Fujin on these rolls?
>>280769470 A
>Fumika Teruya>Sumiharu Inukai>Tatsuhito Ikoma>>280769587 B
>Kotaro Tomoe>Taichi Betsuyaku>Atsuishi Hokari>>280769673 C
>Hiro Kitazoe>Shinnosuke Tsuji>Kazuto TonookaTeam A wins through Ikomaโs disruptive attacks, Inukaiโs clean follow-ups, and Teruya capitalizing on chaos.
Team C starts strong with Kitazoeโs pressure but loses momentum as they get outmaneuvered.
Team Bโs stealth and sniping can't make up for their lack of firepower, they get points but not enough to keep up.
>>280769696Pic Rel
>>280768186Nino was A-Rank at the time. Imagine having to fight him and Izumi, then getting made fun of by Kako. I have nothing against Izumi because he's a great person (I know he actually has some ego and pride), but having to fight him sounds demoralizing on top of the other two.
Then you go against gunners, voila, fucking Yuba back when they were A-Rank as well, then Kazuma who is number one so you know he is a pain in the ass to deal with, Katagiri, Miwa, and so on.
I cannot wait for another Raizo to pop up, this time against Scorpion users.
>>280769369Yuto Kumagai
Yuta Miura
Takuma Yuba
Lots of Y's, but very satisfied.
>>280769873Erm Scorpion is fair and balanced thougheverbeit
>>280769369Yukari Obishima
Haruaki Azuma
Tatsuya Kuruma
>Azuma with a Rookie and someone that needs just a bit more of a push.Yeah its fucking over.
>>280769890Cast of the next card game franchise installment
>>280769873Yeah that is 3 out of 4 good shooters. I'd imagine it would be pure cancer to be an attacker on the map with 2 of them, Nino/Izumi sandwich would be the absolute worst.
>>280769873What's wrong with Scorpion?
It can be combined to make Mantis.
It can be used to create artificial limbs.
It can be used to close big wounds.
It can be used as propellers in underwater combat.
It can be used to create hidden blades in your body.
It's balanced.
>>280770010>It's balanced.Correct
As expected of the weapon created by the fair elite agent
>>280769369Tonooka
Chika
Hanzaki
As far as all sniper squads go I guess this one's not too bad.
If Scorpion is so broken then why is only 1 of the top 4 attackers a scorpion user while everyone else uses Kogetsu (Konami used to be a double Kogetsu user too)
Checkmate
Buff scorpion
>>280759455Wearing a suit isn't chuuni though
>>280770109scorpion optional trigger soon
Kogetsufags have TWO optional triggers
That's totally unfair, I tell you!
>>280770010Now you make me wish we could see Yuma creating snorkel fins or even a functional turbine using scorpion, lmao.
Someone on or in charge of T2 needs to drag Chika into a sim room and make her shoot them over and over until she gets over her fear or blowing up trion bodies. The story would lose all tension if they did though so it will never happen.
Spear trivia. It's a weapon for trionlets.
>Q.137: Is the extension and contraction of Yoneyaโs spear shaft a function of Genyou Kogetsu?
It is not Genyou Kogetsu, but an ability unique to Yoneyaโs spear. Finding it inconvenient in narrow places, Yoneya requested the engineers to modify it for him
>Q.154: Who made Kogetsu (Spear) and when did it happen?
Yoneya made it with one of the Chief Engineers. Due to the idea that โbecause the trion cost to construct the handle of a Kogetsu is lower than the cost to construct the blade, if the blade is shortened and the handle lengthened then even people without a high trion ability can have a long reachโ, it became a spear shape.
>>280759524>>280762554>>280762732>>280766307So we have Sniper Squad. Trapper Squad. Gunner Squad. And Tele Squad. Whatever the map starts as, it is gonna get emptied out between the Trapper and Tele squad's love of meteor. Though everyone may be aware of that, it is still the primary game plan. The longer the match goes on for the better it is going to be for Sniper squad. Everyone here also has a Sniper.
Gunner and Sniper squad are both pretty mobile with their squads being nearly full Grasshoppered. Difficult terrain won't be much of an issue for them. Both Trapper and Tele Squad love their chaos so a big energetic 3v3v3v3 seems up their alley.
On a typical map, let's say Cityscape A. I think Gunner Squad is going to be at the biggest disadvantage. They're gonna want closer range encounters since their Sniper has less range of operation and their Ace is still borderline melee. But with buildings to use as cover and the ability to go quickly between it they should still do fine in theory. Sniper Squad is also in trouble some since it seems all the other Aces are gonna be aiming for solitary targets. Covering fire means more exposing as well. Without a layout for where people spawn I can only say so much though.
My own Trapper squad is going to be drawing attention with Dummy spam and people are gonna be wary about Chameleon in a messy 4 squad battle more so I feel. It also means more likely someone can third party after a sneak attack.
I think Teleporter Squad has solid chances. Kogetsu for more range on an attack + a mix of Meteor spamming to flush out hiders with an Egret sniper means they have the most well rounded approach. This is of course assuming even spawns and a normal map like Cityscape A.
>>2807701092 of the top 4 use Scorpion. Jin & Kazama.
>>280770351Jin is a cheater
They should ban him from Rank Wars and take away his points
>>280770220Izuho is a good friend.
> Q.168: Kogetsu can be turned OFF without being put back in its sheath, but is it possible, for instance, to use a feint like holding a gun in one hand with it OFF while attacking with a Scorpion from the elbow?
It is possible. โPretending with Shield + Gun but actually Scorpionโ is one of the feints that All-rounders equipped with Scorpion (like Arashiyama squad) use a lot.
>>280770382>Jin is a cheaterOur elite agent will never do such things!
>>280770321or right, Yosuke has 4 trion but unlike Kitora he doesn't even care to mention it.
>>280770395Chik is smiling at the prospect of shooting her friend.
>>280770321>Kogetsu mace could be real>Kogetsu flair could be realPlease Ashihara give me these
>>280770395She needs to do a montage of silly faces while exploding. That way whenever Chika goes to shoot someone she'll think of silly exploding Izuho, ":>", and then turn someone into fine trion mist.
>>280770220You're right, it's totally impossible, there's no one who has the authority or attitude to so rudely and bluntly call out Chika's inability like that and force her to confront it on the team.
>>280770369upwards to S-rank.
>>280770409Kitora even copes by saying it's average when there's litterally no agent with trion lower than that until Osamu came
>>280770429Flail*, my bad
>>280769529 A
Hyuse
Tatsuhito Ikoma
Yuka Kumagai
>>280769631 B
Haruaki Azuma
Daichi Tsutsumi
Fumika Teruya
>>280769781 C
Yukari Obishima
Kazuto Tonooka
Tetsuji Arafune
Team A wins through overwhelming close-range pressure. Hyuse is near-unstoppable if he survives the opening volleys, and Ikomaโs Senkou creates instant kill chances. Kumagai supports just enough to keep them from being flanked. Once they break sniper lines, itโs over.
Team C performs well thanks to strong balance and coordination. Obishima and Arafune can contest Team A in melee, while Tonooka may win a few sniper duels if he avoids getting tagged early. They donโt dominate, but they score consistently.
Team B starts strong with excellent long-range control and might pick off a member or two from other teams early on. But if they fail to maintain distance or get flanked, they fold quickly. Without a strong frontline, they get overwhelmed in the mid-to-late game.
>>280770331Seems like my sniper squad attracts too much attention on 4 ways.
>>280770409Yosuke is honestly more impressive to me than her. He is dumb and a trionlet. But he has the skills to fight Neighbors multiple times and be one of the best attackers. And he is one of the more recent people as well shown from earlier in the thread.
>>280770465I think against a more melee heavy mix of teams they would do better. And it isn't that I don't think they'd do well, just that with there being many teams the ability to provide covering fire means a lot more people might be aware where a shot came from / happen to be closer by in bagworm themselves.
>>280770429Flails are stupid IRL but if you could make the "chain" controllable then it would be an interesting weapon. Probably not efficient though since you'd have a head that needs kogetsu-durability at least and having to compromise between durability and control on the chain. And most of what you could get out of it, scorpion can do better. A heavy head like on a mace or flail would mostly be good for shield-breaking, and in terms of that niche Konami is already testing a prototype with her axe.
>>280770466And he's just a swell guy. Definitely one of my favorites.
>>280770444Team A here. I think Hyuse gets Azuma'd, any other sniper who joins get secret weapon'd but I'm pretty sure that the Azuma fight is doomed. Kumagai goes for mutual kill on either Obishima or Teruya if she is lucky to survive long enough to get into melee and then Ikoma cleans whoever is left but If either Tonoka or Azuma are still alive by that point I lose. It might sound bad but I'm pretty sure my team will be focus fired from the start and they have 4 snipers to my 0 and neither of my agents are equipped with proper mobility tigers, escudo trick is good an all but its no grasshopper and Azuma hits areal targets like its nothing so its a one way road.
I actually think either B or C win depending on how the Azuma thing plays out.
>>280769751 A
Hyuse
Satoshi Mizukami
Haruaki Azuma
>>280769890 B
Yuko Kumagai
Yuta Miura
Takuma Yuba
>>280770032 C
Kazuto Tonooka
Chika Amatori
Yoshito Hanzaki
Team A wins by combining raw ace power and layered strategy. Hyuse can take the fight to Team B in close quarters, while Mizukami controls flow and Azuma threatens long-range. They can crack Chikaโs defenses without overcommitting and avoid brawling too much with Yubaโs team.
Team B has strong duelists, but struggles to deal with snipers on both ends. Yuba and Miura can crush in direct fights, but Azuma and Chika force them into cover or bait them into bad positions. Without a ranged fighter, they get picked apart or kited.
Team C With Tonookaโs brings support and decent coordination, but a team of snipers against Azuma is complicated, they can score if they get in position. But if they canโt secure space, withou a good frontliner they will just get overwhelmed.
>>280770700Analysis guy here.
Yours is better. I agree.
>>280770466Kitora joined later than him.
>>280770867Yeah but she is smarter and doesn't use a cool Spear.
>>280770331>four raygust users>only one kogetsu user; also has a scorpion>every single sniper has grasshopperborderchan has very different ideas about the meta compared to border itself
>>280770826Can you count my team for these fights?
>>280767217
>>280766010>Osamu has the same popularity as Kagehow is Touma so low? he seems to be a pretty chill senior agent
>>280770957>Osamu has the same popularity as KageHave you seen how shameless that four eyes is, bribing senior agents to teach him left and right?
>>280770944My trapper Sniper does plan to use it to throw enemies around or make obstacles more than use it to move around themself. But yeah Grasshopper is very strong.
>>280770957He seems too low key for his celebrity to reach his status. Also, his matches would be miserable both to participate it in and watch, so he's unlikely to gain fans through that.
>>280770957Seems irresponsible and his performance in training might make him irritating to some people.
>>280770944If we include my team from the previous afterparty, we have 2 kougetsu and he is not scorpion user.
He is a Kougetsu and Gunner (Asteroid/Viper), although honestly, he would fit better as a scorpion since I gave him Chamaleon, Bagworm and Grasshopper.
I know that Chamaleon and Bagworm can't be used together, but having the choice is good.
I don't remember who Sasamori is but Nasu and Ko on the same team is such a cool duo.
>>280769369>Kazuto Tonooka>Tatsuhito Ikoma>Rokurล WakamuraWhat an akward combo.
Don't think this will go well at all given the only 2 competent guys are used to completely opposing tactics for teamplay.
And Jackson is Jackson.
This also has no one suited to being captain, so this is probably gonna end up as a mid-B rank team.
>>280771084Anon A - Atacker
>Raygust/Raygust>Thruster/Thruster>Shield/Shield>Bagworm/---Anon B - All Rounder
>Kougetsu/Uzi (Asteroid/Viper). Short Range, focusing on power and fire rate at 50/50.>Senku/Grasshopper>Shield/Shield>Bagworm/ChamaleonAce: Shooter
>Asteroid/Asteroid>Meteor/Viper>Shield/Shield>Bagworm/HoundStrategy: Anon A (atacker) is in charge of guarding the Ace (shooter) while Anon B (All Rounder) is in charge of flanking. Ace attacks using composites while protected, otherwise, he uses Vipers to lead his opponents towards Anon B. Snipers are dealt with using Salamander while gunners are dealt with Tomahawks or Gimlet depending on the map.
When Anon A bails out, Ace stop using composite out of cover and fights mainly using Vipers. Traps are cleaned with Meteors.
Anon B is in charge of flanking. When is with Ace, he uses Kougetsu, when is with Anon A, is Gun.
Chamaleon or Bagworm for surprise attack when Ace gives him an opening depending on the situation. Anon B is also in charge of hunting a lone Sniper after Ace bombards the sniper with Viper or Composites and covers Anon B.
>>280769106Definitely.
Your stats and rival depends on how close you are to those charts.
>>280771133Trust in Jackson.
>>280747967This trigger is too damn versatile, no wonder anons are clamoring about nerfing it.
>>280769369>Yoshito Hanzaki>Chika Amatori>Tetsuji ArafuneOops, all snipers!
Forgot to screenshot when spinning, so here's the wheel with only those 3 missing to prove it I guess.
>>280771123He's Suwa squad's attacker. The kid with chameleon that helped with Enedora, hugged Yuma in T-2's first real match, and fought off Yomi idras alongside Tsuji. He'd complement that squad well as a more aggressive attacker that can go after people that try to get through Ko.
>>280771133>Ikoma>"no one suited to being captain"
>>280748441Geez calm down bitch, you're the one trying to talk to him.
>>280767217Ok. Seems fun.
>>280769914 A
Yukari Obishima
Haruaki Azuma
Tatsuya Kuruma
>>280767217 B
Osamu Mikumo
Yoko Katori
Tatsuhito Ikoma
>>280771123 C
Rei Nasu
Hasato Sasamori
Ko Murakami
Team C wins through tight synergy and Murakami's reliability. Nasu keeps the team moving intelligently, while Murakami consistently wins duels or survives long enough to turn the tide. Sasamori helps open space or trade effectively, I give the win to them by surviving late game. Azuma is king but I'm pretty sure not even he can survive long against Nasu's viper.
Team A is solid and methodical. Azuma is a persistent threat and may pick off a reckless Katori or Ikoma. Kuruma helps zone enemies together with Obishima and with Azuma cover they can dominate the mid game. Second Place.
Team B is fun but...
Katori and Ikoma may get a flashy kill or two especially on Sasamori or Kuruma, but their styles clash, this team has little cordination, they get picked off or overextend. Osamu helps them not fall apart entirely, but heโs not enough to push them ahead unless the chaos really plays to their favor. If Osamu manages to tard-wrangle both, then the best bet would be creating spider zones who would buff Katori immensely. Their biggest hurdle here would be Azuma
>>280771133>>280771244I don't think the wheel is a proper randomizer, everyone's getting Ikoma. Other names also repeated a lot.
>>280766256>Nire and KunichikaI'm gonna teach those two some lessons
>>280771454The randomness is the same for all names. But if you'd like I shuffled the names and addead 1 second to the spin.
https://wheelofnames.com/brj-ezb
>>280771527I got Teruya again.
There is something wrong with Teruya.
>>280749922What this girl said rings nicely with what Yuma's father said to him.
>>280771084I think kogetsu (with senku) could work really well with both grashopper and chameleon. Grasshopper could allow for extended range senku lunges and bouncing back out of attacks to counter with senku. And you can switch off of kogetsu without getting rid of it completely. So you could get ready to strike with a kogetsu while still in chameleon. And someone immediately senku'ing out of chameleon would be difficult to avoid, I think.
>>280771527Well I got Suwa. But Miura and Taichi are repeats.
Sorry Suwa, I love you, but what a shitty team.
>>280750100I'm guessing that's why she's wearing the gloves.
>>280771607Yeah, but that's something I can imagine an Ace doing, not a random agent.
>>280771615It's a balanced one.
Sniper Taichi, Kougetsu guardian Miura and Gunner leader Suwa.
>>280771573>Hana has as much bleak pragmatism as a child soldierPoor girl. She needs a squad that isn't cancer.
>>280750335>>280750397Cocky brat should get correction this early, but now it's too late and she's grown into a bitch.
>>280771269Ikoma isn't at least regarding actually managing a team onfield.
He just has offloads that to Mizukami who actually instructs everyone on what to do.
He's fine as a captain otherwise but the issue for that team is no one is suited to actually leading during battle.
>>280771527Hokari
Tsutsumi
Ko
Almost like a better Suzunari-1.
>>280771709She just didn't get enough hugs from her dad, that's all.
>>280750909>>280750956Okay, fuck that. Uhh... a bunker made of the grounded shield thing that I forgot the name of? The one Jin used to trap PoW boy.
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>>280769369I didn't pay attention so I didn't screenshot Osamu. But man now that I think about it, a squad with Osamu needs Sniper to cover for him, aren't they? With Obi-nyan and Kage both can do solo but nobody will protect Osamu
>>280751070Feels like she could surround herself with the shield with her huge amount of trion. Too slow to act?
>>280771816Escudo?
That thing can only grow on a solid surface so you won't be able to protect your head.
That bullshit is something that only Chika with her 37 trion (and growing) can do.
Since it's like a composite of Hound and Lead Bullet, she can't use a shield so you have to kill her to protect against that thing.
>>280771872>Too slow to actYep. You don't even need high trion to shield against omnidirectional hound. She's just inexperienced in fighting.
>>280771133 A
>>Yoshito Hanzaki>>Chika Amatori>>Tetsuji Arafune>>280771244 B
>Kazuto Tonooka>Tatsuhito Ikoma>Rokurล Wakamura>>280771615 C
Kotaro Suwa
Yuta Miura
Taichi Betsuyaku
Team B wins by combining high-impact offense (Ikoma) and sniper pressure (Tonooka). Or just for being the only balanced team here. Theyโll likely get early picks, especially if they find Hanzaki or Betsuyaku out of position. If Ikoma gets even one point with Senkou, the momentum snowballs. Jackson is used to chase around aces so he can actually keep up with Ikoma quite well and do his average job.
Team A is great at stalling and denying space, especially with Chika. Arafune and Hanzaki are bothable to punish leaded enemies and clean up and set them up for Chika. But nothing much than that. Arafune would do best by staying close to Chika and guarding her since bar Ikoma he can deal with the other meeles.
Team C fights hard but lacks range or unpredictability. Miura and Suwa can hold their own in duels, but theyโll struggle to close distance on a map with so much powerful snipers. Without kills early, they get overwhelmed by smarter positioning since from all snipers here Taichi is probably the lowest ranked.
>>280751499Not a bad way to go down, good hustle.
>>280751537So that's two Scorpions attached to each other for range? What can't that damn trigger do?
>>280771978>What can't that damn trigger do?be durable
be trion efficient
>>280771978>What can't that damn trigger do?senku
>>280770957Osamu isn't a very sociable guy unless shit hits the fan, we know that when left to his own devices he just chills by his lonesome, outside of critical situations he only talks with the people he already knows or the ones he was advised to approach. To an outsider he is just a shady guy in the corner who has an absurdly strong team who for some reason goes to HQ high command meetings every other day and is known to be Jin's favorite pet.
At the same time Yuma has butchered Midorikawa in front of the large crowd of people and he made it crystal clear why that happened, respect Four eyes or else, amount of fighters who won't be stabbed to death by Yuma is probably under 10 and that would include scary monsters. What if Four eyes takes offence if you try to talk with him? Nah better stay the fuck away and since Osamu won't bother anyone without a reason... well it is what it is.
However this is bound to change. Press conference got them 130 new recruits making Osamu already set to be somewhat of a celebrity, T2's track record is pure cinema for anyone watching and with just a few finishing touches Osamu is on the path to become a literal living legend, potentially even bigger than Torimaru.
>>280772061>To an outsider he is just a shady guy in the corner who has an absurdly strong team who for some reason goes to HQ high command meetings every other day and is known to be Jin's favorite pet.This guy's a neighbor, isn't he? Fucking Tamakoma.
>>280752129Simple, but effective. I'm impressed.
>>280752290Cute! Somehow this is making me horny.
>>280771978Cutting an Ilgar in two with a single slash.
Cutting the crab leg trigger.
Tanking a cannon.
Scorpion is more like an anti personnel weapon, so against big and sturdy things, a kougetsu is better while a Raygust is better for defense.
>>280772257>Scorpion is more like an anti personnel weaponwhich makes sense because Jin made that shit just for fighting Tachikawa
>>280770466Yeah, Yosuke is just cool, he might not be gifted or best but he doesn't care about it because he fucking loves his job and this instantly puts him above a huge chunk of people. The true grind it out trionlet fightfag.
>>280771573it means she actually hates them with passion now.
Attackers Ranked:
>Jin
>Tachikawa
>Konami
>Kazama
>Kageura
>Ko
>Kuga
>Ikoma
>Azuma's brats fighting together.
>Yosuke (spear guy)
>Midorikawa
>Futaba
>Shiro (Ear's side effect guy)
>Tsuji (Kogetsu Ikemen)
>Hyuse (Kogetsu)
>Sasamori (Suwa's Attacker)
>Miura (Katori's simp)
>Koarai/Okudera (Azuma's brats)
>Oji (Nickname guy)
>Obishima
>Kumagai (Jin's property and Nasu's lesbian wife)
>Kai Minamisawa/Yutaka Kashio
>>280772498I think I can put the two K*T*R over there too.
Katori under Futaba and Kitora under Shiro.
>>280771150Composite shot GODS rise up.
Why nobody tries a raygust shield and kougetsu spear combo?
>Raygust/Kougetsu (spear).
>Thruster/Senku
>Shield/Shield
>Bagworm/Genyo.
This set seems quite good. It won't be usable by trionlets, but it seems powerful for those who can make a powerful Raygust shield and fight like a hoplite
>>280772661We've only got one Spear user in Border as far as it can be seen. Raygust as well just isn't that popular. It would also be very heavy. It isn't terrible for a low Trion person honestly, so long as you aren't 4eyes level.
>>280772661Kogetsu spear is only available to A rank, and having both in hand would make you very heavy, even with thruster
It hasnโt been that long since Kitora joined Border, right?
Considering she grew to 4 trion in such time, I feel Osumaโs tiny trion should show some growth now
>>280772556aren't both of them more all rounder, maybe around utagawa
>>280772498Hyuse is too low, top 5 kicking out Ko.
Kai is too low. he is 8k masterclass and will shred a bit less than half of this list 1 on 1 without racking a sweat.
Boomagai > Obishima as a pure attacker.
Kitora should be stronger than base Katori but we don't know peak Katori.
Miura doesn't score kills, good defense or not he is below everyone on the list.
>>280772800Heaviness doesn't matter. You are a hoplite.
Throw the spear, you have enough trion to respawn it without issue.
A strong focused shield? Throw the spear.
An opponent running away? Throw the spear.
An opponent getting close? Shield bash and Senku.
Many opponents with focused shields? Genyo Senku.
>>280772851no way hyuse is higher than ko they double team ko + kuruma distraction and just barely won
>>280772883Remove the double guns from his back and let them fight it out property not a mad rush into Ko's blade. Hint Ko fucking dies.
>>280772498Assuming there are no Black Triggers invovled and in solo battles, Tachikawa should be stronger than Jin.
Hyuse is an "attacker", this N is an All Rounder.
>>280772661It would be extremely good against Attackers, but you would get pinned down and shield broken against all the Shooters. Spear throwing would also be pretty shitty since you lose access to those Triggers until you recover it.
>>280772925dead even when Jin has scorpion.
>>280772851Miura is actually pretty high when it comes to solo points, 7.4k points.
>>280772915eh if you remove kuruma and kuga out, then ko also wouldn't need to split his focus between fighting and protecting (with is a big thing in his squad), and hyuse is pretty much the first attacker ko faces with the kogetsu/viper/escudo, give him some time for his side effect and I can see him winning easily
>>280772960I know right. I am rooting for the guy so much you have no idea. Reality is, he doesn't score. Like at all. Obishima is better than he is.
>>280772994yeah that is what I meant, proper 1 x 1, I'd say 6/4 Hyuse favored and getting worse for Ko over time. Hyuse needs an actual swordsman to fight against him so he can wake up to his old training. I'm operating under the assumption that Viza with a stick > Tachikawa, so naturally Hyuse > Ko.
My most important takeaway from all this is that Kotaro is the best KTR of them all.
>>280773092but the more they fought the more ko would do better thank to his side effect, and I dont see how viper could swing the match up too much when suzunari stomped nasu every single time
>>280752610That kid is still wearing that vest.
>>280773161because Nasu was fucking retarded
>OOOH WE SHOULD STICK TO MIDRANGE BATTLE OOOOH SUWA GENIUSreally bitch? REALLY?
as for Ko, Hyuse can both just sword fight him and wins more than he loses, as for viper he can just crush him head on, 7 vs 18 trion difference, enough to obliterate him directly through the shields, just hit the side without raygust. but I wasn't counting on viper when I was making my evaluations. as I said Hyuse was trained to an absurdly high standard and the main issue was years of combat duty with Lambris that dulled that training. Ko is nowhere close, or he would be above Kazama.
>>280773334>Hyuse can just sword fight him and win more than he loses*fixed, I am having a stroke, send help
>>280770944I think what makes borderchan so different isn't just that Kuga is one of our MCs, but also we don't have to worry about training time. Raygust and Scorpion are more recent additions to Border than Kogetsu. Grasshopper is also better for Kuga than most due to him being smaller, but even some basic hopping is still a very useful trigger. Also I don't think we've seen any Lead Bullets so far either.
>>280772814He will be at 3 by the time of the away mission. I'm sure of it.
>>280752744Sure, his current priority is going back to his home country. But then what? Stopping his master becoming a god? Who's the best candidate for that? Then he will point his sword back towards them to get Chika. I say let him guide to the neighborhood, then incapacitate him before they arrived to the destination or something along that line.
>>280773299It's his only one.
>>280752985I assume that's where the Canadian thing is from.
>>280773447You assume correctly. Well, to be more precise that's the start of it.
>>280753376>Kukkoro doujin when?Holy shit, it's been such a long time since I saw that term. A fine taste.
>>280754186>shared birthday, blood type, and height with this Mizukami guyWhat the fuck. This nigga better not be disappointing.
>Maori, anon saying this is MarioBig points for the short untidy hair, she is super CUTE! I concede, anon.
>>280773380I think if we were talking A rank teams then the lead bullet setup Miwa has might be somewhat popular. But having to essentially full attack for it makes it a lot less appealing compared to what else you could be doing, even setting aside the heavy trion cost. The only reason Chika even bothers is because of her unwillingness to shoot people.
I agree that lore reasons could contribute to kogetsu being so popular. Especially at C rank, kogetsu kinda sucks without senku. So you'd imagine after a few years the other two would start catching up. Especially scorpion with Yuma impressing everyone with his tricks.
I still think it's strange that Oki is the only grasshopper sniper. Pinballing requires a specific build and skillset. But there's plenty of attackers that use grasshopper in less extreme ways. So you'd think the coordination to hop up a building wouldn't be that rare.
>>280773677You won't be disappointed with Water God.
>>280773738Think about the training snipers have until they hit b-rank, its all about chilling, slowly grinding from stable positions and hiding in the buildings. One wouldn't even want to use grasshopper for mobility in these scenarios because 120+ pairs of eyes are looking in every direction, a fast moving dot = 15-50 hits on that shiny ass.
>>280773738I guess is due to the shield and bagworm thing.
Main:
>Lightning.>Egret.>Ibis.>Shield.Sub
>Shield.>Bagworm.>--->---This set allows a sniper to fire while having the bagworm all the time. If you put a Grasshopper, then you will have to deactivate the Bagworm to jump.
Oki is benches the Ibis and puts a Grasshopper to get around that problem.
Main:
>Lightning.>Egret.>Grasshopper>ShieldSub:
>Shield>Bagworm.
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>>280756078>nicknames AND icons for the enemiesAutism.
>>280756747I'm surprised what I said got pointed out.
>we know their moves so far, let's wing it
This is basically Ikoma team's plan, based if you ask me.
>>280771894Then I can only say to dive into a building and hope she doesn't just demolish it the moment after.
>>280773824Yeah, I assume the standard way of incorporating the grasshopper would be to drop one of the snipers. There's a decent amount of snipers that already don't use all three. And I think Azuma is the only person to make legitimate use of all three. Just do what Oki does and always bring egret and either lightning or ibis depending on the situation.
>>280773749I'm looking forward to it then.
>>280773738You don't have to full attack with lead bullet unless you're doing a combo with it I don't think. Chika has to to snipe with it and the hound cube was to guarantee a hit, but if you're just shooting it it's like any other gun.
>>280755039Osamu being a shameless weakling with a polite facade is why we love our megane
>>280774118Miwa has a special lead bullet, it counts as a custom option for his gun and that allows him to shoot lead bullets without it being a double trigger combo. A-rank exclusive thing.
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>>280774457this hairstyle & tragic uniform nerfs her good looks so much, brutal
>>280769369>Tomoe>Oki >MiuraThe potential squad.
>>280771838What can Osamu even do for Kage?
Spotter?
Kage would rather just wreak havoc on everyone he met.
Obishima is obedient and has good head between her shoulders, she probably can also be Kuga-lite with heavy training. I feel like that would just hurt her future, though. Kuga is good, but he is not the end of it all.
>>280774674Honestly, the wire zones would be great for him too, he's pretty mobile.
>>280774693Wire zones are great for Kuga because he is small.
So far, in all battles, Kage has confronted everyone head on.
He would probably welcome wires in some places to trip up his opponents, but that's a bit of a stretch.
>>280774674Bait, sekuhara people into doing stupid things and preventing them from looking for Kage. Kage doesn't care about wires but they will slow down the enemies and make them easier to blend. Obishima trained by Kage would a pretty funny creature. Her build is small but she is senku kogetsu no grasshopper shitter so no massive synergies. On that note her suwas are pretty big, so there is potential to use her as ranged threat, meaning she can help Kage without walking into blend range.
>>280769369>Rokuro, Chika, OsamuMegane and trion power. You can't beat them.
>>280775163>get close to any of them>kill
>>280775163What kind of strategy could they pull? Both megane is too weak and Chika can't shoot people.
>>280775249Osamu has to carry with Chika's lead support, Rokuro is now on free point duty. Its over
>>280775308I'm sure Osamu could actually make something out of jackson, he's a pretty decent captain all in all and he could probably find a way to have him improve since they are both equally shitty.
>>280775343Have him pick Kogetsu and Senku and ask Tsuji how to be a good support.
>>280775343Jackson failed to shoot at Osamu in point blank range, he has 2 years of gunner experience & half a year of training practice with Inukai, its bad. real bad.
>>280775387Much like Osamu, he REALLY doesn't have the skill for that.
To be fair, I don't know what kind of strategy that team can pull without an ace to farm `points
>chika won't shoot>osamu is a shitter>rokuro is a shitterThey can assrape the lower b ranks I guess?
>>280775163I don't think you can salvage this one without Chika becoming Ninomiya. And at that point literally any squad would work.
>>280775409Osamu legit evaded that.
>>280774566>>280774630>>280775163The 3-way-match is
1st squad,
>Tomoe>Oki>Miura2nd squad,
>Mizukami>Ikoma>Hyuse3rd squad,
>Rokuro>Chika>OsamuThe first squad can become real good if either Tomoe or Oki become the captain.
The second squad is overpowered, unless something real stupid happen, they will win.
The third squad is free points, with Chika potentially breaking out of her blanket after Rokuro and Osamu died to protect her.
>>280775411Spider Osamu + lead Chika is a threat to anyone in mid-b tier, even Nasu & Ko. The main issue is that Jackson is dead weight even as a gunner. I have said it before and I will say it again, he could be a good sniper but he doesn't cut it to be a gunner, especially not the Inukai kind. The main issue is that this team doesn't need a second sniper and I fear that giving him shooter cubes wouldn't work well.
So the best plan would be to tell him to use hound and well, do the Inukai. Run around, move people towards or out of wire zones depending on the combat salutation and stay alive for as long as possible. On stats alone Jackson should be able to do this. The issue is that he can't. This style requires constant thinking, evaluating, fast decisive turns and decisions, Jackson cannot do that. So even the skillset he is supposed to have is entirely useless, worse yet it is unreliable as we could see with the most recent 1 vs 3 against a fucking free point, all he needed was to magdump Four eyes in the face the moment he got line of fire.
So... Hound only and run around the wires where Osamu isn't, asking him to make sure Chika has sight lines and can assist him might be too much.
They would still terrorise lower b and occasionally upset mid-b when stars align but that is about it. Maybe Jackson would evolve into human, who knows. With an Inukai clone they would actually have a decent team.
>>280775438To me it looked like he slid on the tiny shield he couldn't break with his raygust slash. That doesn't matter, Rokuro should have opened fire a good 15 seconds before that, its the gunner's main thing.
I can't wait until this arc fucking redeems Jackson, the setup is there already and this is shonen, payoff is expected.
>>280775653Katori has a gun too. Why did their plan involve approaching him at all when they could just shoot him from multiple angles? He's a trionlet so that would actually be enough to kill him. And in the meantime send Miura to kill Chika.
>>280775732one arc wont save him, he needs like 3.
>>280775732Will be a bit long, but it's worthwhile,yes.
>>280775761>why didn't their plan involve teamworkAHEM, it's Katori's squad.
>>280775763Osamu went from the WALL SNIPE to taking katori in a single arc.
He'll manage.
Kakizaki will step up as a captain and give Teruya the dicking she wanted.
>>280775761Chika was raining fire and brimstone on them so they couldn't open on him from cover, she was shooting every other panel.
Now why they didn't insta focus fire when Teruya was on her, I dunno. Maybe they though raygust would last or maybe they thought Wakamura + Yuta sneak attack would be more successful than a shootout. They just were in one with Kakizaki and the only thing it got them were bullet holes in their bodies... is what I would say if Rokuro didn't have Hound. We all know how to use hound to sure kill Four-eyes in that scenario, right? Katori only had asteroid so she needed line of fire. But yes, focus fire would work, Hounds high asteroid in the face would work. Hounds high hounds on target would also work. All of that could have been done by Jackson without leaving cover.
>>280775846sorry, she was penetrated by a superior man
>>280775872Water GOD will get pegged and he will like it.
You think composite asteroid + meteor makes a frag grenade?
>>280775883that is Zaki's fetish, so I doubt it.
That slightly gloomy mood after being the ultimate hard carry of the b-rank, slowly radiating the most fine tuned chad aura we have seen in a long time, borderline Suwa tier. for the rest of her life Teruya will compare her captain to that. Its never been more over.
>>280775954This arc is the shitter redemption arc.
Believe in our shitters, since the b ranks are plagued with them.
>>280775850>Chika was raining fire and brimstone on them so they couldn't open on him from coverThat's what Mueller is for. Either she shoots at him to slow his advance, leaving Osamu to die. Or she keeps protecting Osamu but dies faster herself and Yuma and Osamu's fights become actual 3v1s.
Kakizaki messed up by not sending either of the kids right away when they could still 2v1 Yuma with the other gone. But the side with Yuma shouldn't have needed to be the one to send someone to kill Chika anyway. There is not a squad in border that can't pin down Osamu 2v1.
>>280775985oh no I am positively sure that Zaki will fuck someone up and I want him to, If he doesn't its just cruel. however It won't unfuck Teruya.
>>280776033He just needs to let his people loose, his team is tailor made for that.
>>280775941Condensed explosion probably.
>>280775954>fine manTeruya don't really like that kind of people though.
Remember that she's into weaklings.
Also, read Kakizaki's brief again... THAT's what she considered a weakling.
>>280768509To be fair that's a concentrated shield meant to block melee hits and sniper shots, plus Osamu doesn't properly swing his sword but pushes awkwardly. Well, he rarely swings his sword and relies on thruster usually. But Raygust got the weakest attack of all melee triggers and there's nothing unusual about blocking a melee attack with focused shield, other agents even blocked Kogetsu like this.
>>280775998>Mueller?
>There is not a squad in border that can't pin down Osamu 2v1Katori squad, low-bs and mid-bs if one of them ins't an ace. Osamu doesn't choose easy battlefields and doesn't go down for free. Yes, he won't win but he won't die instantly. The main issue for him are top tier goons.
Bullying Zaki beyond reason is cruel, his plan was reasonable if Katori was in the mood.
>>280776139maybe I worded it poorly, but I wasn't implying that it was embarrassing for the Free point four eyes with 2 trion.
>>280766513>Katori and Osamu will have more bonding on away mission>Chika will be the new god of Afto probably voluntarily>Yuma's trion body will reach its limit>Hyuse will be the new first gentleman of AftoOssamu and Katori will be make a new team after away mission and murder Jackson struggling B team on ranked wars.
>>280776201Osamu's mom is right, he will marry Chika and nino 2.0 will seethe.
>>280776073have you ever seen Teruya that fried up when she was with Kakizaki? even after she was repeatedly penetrated? nah, her tastes are being reshaped live. why help weaklings if she needs all she can muster to keep up with the soaring chad thundercock? now she is the biggest weakling in the room and we can see thatit is a new and exciting feeling for her.
>>280776201do you want dead inside Osamu? because that is how you get dead inside Osamu.
>>280776216I fucking wish. Ashihara pushed Ema too hard for that to happen
>>280776254It's Ossamu, not Osamu. It's Osamu after a deranged anon possessed his body and abandon Chika and Kuga for a bitch's pussy.
>>280775846Kakizaki really just need to step his tactics and they'd easily get into upper middle tier.
He should also look into T1/Oji as inspiration since there's pretty much no deadweight on the team (like Taichi) and all have similar skill ceiling.
>>280776255we have too many cucked boys around, so its entirely possible for Ema to join their ranks, in fact he is already there as his crush has a male harem, but I don't think Osamu even registers that Chika is a female, yeah there was one tiny quip of him blushing but that was 3 lives ago.
The thing about Kakizaki is that he feels like someone who will make sure his subordinates come back alive.
That's probably why Ashihara is able to spoil the fact that he will live to old age.
>>280776271>T1nope. that thing has Konami. Konami is Tachikawa with meteors. She can remove most a-rank teams by her lonesome. Their battle plan is to pin shit down with excess fire while Konami annihilates it.
>Ojithis might work
>>280776271His whole unit needs to pick egret. Then he will have the most adaptable unit ever.
>>280767512Didn't they start Kitora with 3k points? She was by al accounts a super rookie despite being a trionlet.
>>280769272holy shit he's a legit brainlet
>>280769369Tatsuhito Ikoma
Yลko Katori
Kลtarล Suwa
Yeah, I'll take it
>>280770466sasuga Shiori cousin
>>2807767903.6k starting points for Kitora and she took out her first training bamster in 9 seconds
>>280776974Also, she's a gunner before reaching B-rank.
Pistol, most likely, considering her trion.
>>280768127Maybe identical twins can pull it off
>>280769873Yuba was A rank? I don't remember them having the custom emblem.
>>280769873Imagine fighting Azuma with his original squad WITH Azuma actually trying.
I honestly think even T-1 would lose.
>>280777153T1 at full power or 20%? because full power T1 has 4 members.
>>280777216Jin is a cheat.
We don't count Jin.
>>280776831His brain is just very focused
>>280769369Murakami, Suwa, Oki
Pretty good composition, we could basically replicate Suzunari-1's tactics, with Oki's mobility making up for Suwa's lower range.
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ending it deep inside Nono's nonos
>>280778313 >picked last in dodgeball
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