Thread 280780036

Is this the biggest fall from grace? Haruhi Suzumiya experienced a precipitous decline in popularity, from a position of extreme renown to a state of complete obscurity. What caused this?

The passage of 20 years time?

>>280780036 (OP)
The answer: Haruhi was never good.
>>280780130
Gurren Lagann came out barely a year after Haruhi and is still remembered fondly and popular.

>>280780036 (OP)
Never heard of this show
>search it up
>aired 2006
Oh a retro anime

>>280780036 (OP)
Big hiatus + no ending

>>280780036 (OP)
>What caused this?
Without gimmicks like the non-chronological episode order, Endless 8, the guerilla marketing tactics it is nothing but a mid school club romcom with sci-fi elements with a godawful main heroine that was so bad that they had the basic bitch secondary character's story an entire movie. Another gimmick, since it would have never been a movie if they got rid of the le funny eight episode meme of Endless 8.

It was never good.

>>280780155
God I'm old

>>280780036 (OP)
it was always mid only liked by kimo otaku

Blame season 2. Killed all hype. I was here while it was airing and every thread was about how bad and lazy the endless eight was.

I want to hire the best animators in the anime industry to animate a 23 minute long scene of a girl eating breakfast and then animate 24 more episodes of the exact same scene from a different angle every time

>>280780234
Oh god I forgot how many guys wanted a cunt like her as a girlfriend. ugh.

>>280780149
Gurren Lagann is an exception and not a standard other shows should be held to. The mecha genre has heavily declined since it released and it's also the one mecha that people who hate mecha tend to like for some reason so it makes sense that people are still paying attention to the old stuff. There's a plethora of shows similar enough to Haruhi that people don't care about sticking to it after almost 20 years with no new content. K-On and Lucky Star were also massive back then and declined.

>>280780036 (OP)
Endless Eight drove a ton of people away and the movie wasn't enough to bring them all back. Then the main series stopped getting adapted after that and many of the people who still cared refused to watch the spinoff just because it wasn't done by KyoAni. Japanese otaku souring on Aya Hirano probably didn't help either. If anything, it's surprising how popular Haruhi still is in spite of all that.

>>280780658
>it's surprising how popular Haruhi still is in spite of all that.
Is she though?

>>280780036 (OP)
She was replaced with Bunny Girl Senpai.

>>280780784
yoru no hajimari sa...

>>280780036 (OP)
Most of the key art and animation staff who worked on the show are dead.

Yasuhiro Takemoto - dead.
Shouko Ikeda (who drew pic related) - dead.
Futoshi Nishiya - dead.

>>280780036 (OP)
who gives a fuck lol

>>280781014
remember when this artstyle looked original and not all generic as fuck?

>>280781075
Nobody cares about what shounentard retards like you think.

Now that /a/ has moved on from Kyoanus, we can all agree that Haruhi was never good.

>>280780036 (OP)
All the labels around it are negative - Haruhi is a bad/annoying person, Endless Eight, confusing watch order, generic school romcom. It scares away potential fans.
Most people watch it in chronological order, which is subpar because climax happens in the very beginning, and because it has 2009 episodes, which bring the show down.
Most people haven't seen anime earlier than Haruhi so they fail to see why it was groundbreaking. Meanwhile they've likely seen some similar school slop like Hyouka or Oregairu before actually watching Haruhi, so when they do it's just another formulaic hetero SoL to them with cliches they've seen before.

>>280780504
Do it

>>280781095
what the hell are you talking about?

>>280780710
She is. It may be a tad confusing gauging the popularity of a character from an almost 20 (!) year-old TV show. Especially now, because the new "otaku" are fickle, disloyal and easily influenced by trends, so you won't get passionate, autistic followings like with Jesus Yamato or Haruhi anymore.
Despite all that, there are still some traces of her popularity, like the video for God Knows, or the fact that there are still Haruhi events in Japan from time to time (there's a SOS Brigade pop-up shop going around right now at Gee Stores nationwide).
Compare that to something like Ouran, that aired literally the same season and was fucking huge, not only in Japan but all around the world. When was the last time you heard someone talk about it?

>>280781639
>"otaku" are fickle, disloyal and easily influenced by trends,


thats everywhere now sadly. i wonder if this will bite them in the ass down the line?

Are we pretending Haruhi isn't absurdly popular for a 20 year old show with no sequels and multiple fakeout announcements? The new LN made a lot of noise.

>>280781701
>The new LN made a lot of noise.
where

>>280781864
Japan. Was topping Amazon sales, a big worldwide launch with apparently solid numbers, they even had 100 personalities commenting on the return of Haruhi.

>>280781903
hot damn. it wasnt just old otaku comprising the majority of those sales?

>>280782115
Surely there would be a lot of 20-30 year old there but that's still a lot of sales and cultural reach regardless especially given the context

>>280782275
impressive! so is this like pokemon horizon where its popualr but not a lot of people make art of it that reaches over on this side of the world?

>>280780036 (OP)
it's just LNslop

>>280780149
Gurren lagann also gets regular re-releases, this is the big difference: how the right holders treat them
Haruhi got completely abandoned between 2012 and 2016, and barely any attention until 2020 from Kadokawa/Tanigawa

>>280781075
No

>>280782351
It's definitely a more Japanese series yes, which is for the best imo

>>280782524
they still changed the armband color to orange though

>>280780036 (OP)
Maybe if S2 was done properly instead of pulling that endless eight crap it would be remembered more fondly.

>>280780600
Code Geass is another exception. Or more like these are exceptional shows and Haruhi is not one of them.

>>280780036 (OP)
the redpill is Haruhi was FOTM trash that only got put on a pinnacle by western weebs because it was "my first subbed/non-Toonami anime".

>>280787852
Code Geass also had a spinoff, recap movies, an AU sequel movie and a sequel series last year. They were all terrible but they kept the franchise alive.

>>280782443
There was the Yuki AU spinoff series but that wasn't that popular. It didn't have any of the mystery stuff, the artstyle is very different almost unrecognizable, Yuki is a totally different character and she is supposed to be the mc of the spinoff and Haruhi is also a bit different.

>>280780036 (OP)
Haruhi only appeal was coming out at the right time for otaku culture, other than that the series is a 5/10 at best.

>>280782443
>Gurren lagann also gets regular re-releases,
Aside from the two-part movie, what else did it get?

>>280780036 (OP)
This series starts off so strong with the first two or three episodes, it really feels like it's going somewhere and sets up all these strands but it devolves so fast into aimless SoL shit. You even see the animation getting lazier with time too. I suppose it's the essential anime in that regard because what I just said applies to 99% of series too