As someone that has been watching anime and manga for the better part of 25 years, I can safely say that she is one of the most realistic depictions of a woman I've ever seen in anime.

Like she's a huge bitch, but not a cartoon bitch in a tsundere sense, but how you'd expect a Stacey to act.

You've spent 25 years watching anime and you would unironically waste time viewing rent a girlfriend for even a nano second? Your taste is unsalvagable

>>280788207

Mami and Mini are the only two sensible characters out of the cast, everyone else is an emotionally immature trainwreck

>>280788207
Watching a lot of anime means also watching a lot of bad anime. If you ONLY watch classics and good stuff, you can't truly refine your palate as you'll take certain things for granted.

>>280788363
I agree, she's the only one with common sense.

>>280788131 (OP)
In general Rent Girlfriend is one of the best written stories in any media, not sure why it makes people so angry.

>>280789396
I unironically agree.

>>280788207
>hurr durr anime fans should only watch the best and 2nd best anime of that year AND THAT'S IT
dumb insipid cunt, as an anime fan you watch both good and bad anime.
and RAG is a masterpiece, fuckface.

>>280789545
>bad anime
some of my favorite anime is generally considered bad

>>280789545
No you are just a retard looking for even the cheapest forms of escapism. Imagine telling an avid music fan and conoisseur that he should also listen to Sexyy Red otherwise his opinions are invalid

>>280790123
RaG is a masterpiece because it goes against escapism and chooses to show a bit of real life issues.

>>280790123
I've seen what this board applauds.

>>280788207
the manga sucks but the anime is good, fag

>>280788363
Mami is an actual stalker. You call that sensible?

>>280788131 (OP)
Mami is so cute!

>>280788131 (OP)
>>>/r9k/

>>280790443
>stalker
hot

>>280790194
Reiji+Mengo+Ryou+Kei = blackpill gods

>>280790739
I don't feel like taking the bait right now, try asking again later.

>>280790815
Why, does that not align with your little collage?

>>280790884

>>280788131 (OP)
>As someone that has been watching anime and manga for the better part of 25 years
This means you've never talked to a woman though

>>280790336
The anime actually butchers the manga, it’s a serviceable adaptation but the amount of cut context makes it not even close.

>>280790974
>cut
like what? Ruka's panties and Kazuya's dad ?

>>280790919
Oh you’re *that* anon…

This series is frustrating for me since these are all magnificent characters with depth that you don't typically see in romcoms, with agendas that don't always revolve around the main character and clash in interesting ways that provide for excellent drama, but the progress from episode to episode is so insultingly slow, like the showrunners are trying to antagonize me for daring to like the anime on a fundamental level. I can't imagine how manga readers feel from the same treatment for 380 chapters on the more intimate level of the the mangaka personally hating you

>>280791068
No you're THAT anon

>>280788131 (OP)
This character is an expert depiction of someone who felt a piece of her die inside her and has no joy left to feel for life and is destined to end up trapped in an abusive relationship with someone who manipulated her into believing that he understands, or to become a lesbian

>>280791049
They cut:
>Ch 2, or their third rental date, or rather combined it with Ch 1. Each ch was supposed to highlight each other’s lies on behalf of the other.
>Kazuya falling on Chizuru’s tummy in Ch 3, another one of their “intimate” moments
>The pocky game in Ch 11, those two were extremely close to kissing
>Ch 17 where Chizuru confronts Kazuya at school after the beach trip, highlighting her attachment to him
>Ch 20 where Mami gets visibly upset after seeing them continue dating, to the point where she has to leave the classroom
>Ch 23 Kazuya stalks Ruka for way longer and is way more committed to prevent her blackmailing
>Ch 25 Kazuya wanted to end the rental relationship to prevent further issues but Chizuru stopped him
>Ruka’s backstory in Ch 28
>In Ch 35 during the shrine visit they spotted Mami and Kazuya had to hold Ruka and cover her mouth which made her fucking lose it. Mami also spotted Kazuya think she was hallucinating due to her obsession.
>Ruka’s panty and his dad chapters
>Chizuru thanking him for the motivation boost in Ch 55
Overall it wasn’t as cringe to read as it was to watch and the anime seemed to double down on the cringe. And Chizuru’s (and other girls’) attachment to Kazuya felt more believable in the source material than in the anime.

>>280790052
Divergence Eve should be appreciated more. I love mysterious sci fi anime from the late 90s/early 00s with sexy girls.

>>280791089
I find it funny we have a little mentally unwell shipperfag reply bot jumping to le umi whenever someone wants to point out roadblocks in the story or compare it other stories.

>>280792177
Okay incel.

>>280791089
>G-Guys Umi is totally going to try and have sex with Chizuru and Uh Ruka will do the same with Kazuya
I can feel my spirit leaving my body with how fucking cringe and out of place this "theory" is, Chizuru is allowed to actually have sex with anyone, does this fucking Umi-obsessed troglodyte really think that Reji will allow his waifu to be corrupted by attempted rape? Likewise Kazuya isn't allowed to have sex, he's not even allowed to attempt to have sex with anyone if it's not Chizuru, Ruka and Umi are just roadblocks, not actual characters, Umi will continue silently being a bitter little bitch because he can't get closer to Chizuru and Ruka will keep stubbornly harassing Kazuya until the writing on the wall becomes so obvious even for her.

>>280792289
>Chizuru is allowed to
NOT allowed, bloody post, missed that out.

>>280791713
none of these seem particularly essential or unaddressed elsewhere in the story
it's specifically the meandering and repetitious nature of the plot that causes the most frustration among readers, and the more interactions that can be cut while retaining continuity the better

>>280792268
Mate I had a oneitis relationship it’s just not worth it. Having self-respect is better for getting quality women.

>>280788131 (OP)
I feel like the only bitch is the Chizuru. Why Kazuya must lust for her when there’s 3 better options is beyond me

>>280792430
Mami's jealousy and Chizuru's willingness to stay beside him ARE all essential plot points. They flubbed the potential by cutting out all that peak and instead wasted the budget on this.

>>280792702
These motives are well established in the anime and the points where they're introduced are fine, and Ruka's breast jiggle is very important to capture in animation

>>280792941
Yes it’s serviceable but the source offers so many little bonus treats. I’m saying this as someone who watched 3 seasons + live action before starting reading.

>>280793397
Didn't the live one have an original end?

>>280793557
Yea and casting choice for Chizuru and Ruka aside it was the best way to frame the story imo.

>>280793790
I don't hate original ends, care to spoil it?

>>280793883
It’s pretty crazy, heavy departure from the original.
Mami tells him to become her fake boyfriend to have dinner with her parents and that’s when he found out they were cornering her into an arranged marriage, Kazuya feels bad for Mami, meanwhile Chizuru is on a rental date with a blacklisted guy who avoided detection, he drugs her and takes her to a hotel and proceeds to commence r*pe while Sumi finds out and comes in to tell Kazuya about the forbidden date but he can’t leave because of the dinner, the parents ask him what he likes about Mami and his response is all things he likes about Chizuru, then he runs out of the restaurant and finds the hotel where they are staying at, rings the alarm and then jumps the guy, saving Chizuru. He gives some heartfelt speech which glazes her and says “I’m your boyfriend”. Then they get together and live happily ever after.

>>280794581
Spectacular bait

>>280794651
Are you dumb?

Mw in Shiunji family

>>280796969
Poor guy did nothing wrong and he still has to suffer.

>>280788131 (OP)
>2D
>realistic

>>280796969
ICHIGEKI

>>280796969
Damn fuckin one-tapped

>>280796969
Nagi is that you?

>>280797821
Kyou is Banri's relative and was blackmailing her into selling some info about Shiunji to a magazine.

>>280788207
Watching sexy straight girls is every man’s favorite pastime

>>280797867
His goal was to expose their nonbloodrelation, get a top trending post on it on Shiunji-X(twitter), having no one surprised at this revelation, except getting them picked on at school more, then each of the girls will start to resent themselves for getting closer to Arata and the family will separate, except Kotono who will be left behind trying to slurp on his cock after hearing about his feat. Then the BR final bomb will drop to seal their familial destruction.

>>280788131 (OP)
Someone that's been watching anime for 25 years probably doesn't have a good grasp on woman behavior.

>>280789396
Being well written doesn't make something enjoyable, it's precisely because it depicts the worst aspects of females so well that people hate it.

>>280798817
Why would that be a reason to hate it except that you happen to hate women?

>>280798839
>Disliking negative things means hating women
Excellent bait, here's your (you).

>>280788131 (OP)
Watching anime for 25 years and understanding women are mutually exclusive categories.

>>280790336
Me when the majority of my blood is flowing to my dick instead of my head

>>280799136
women don't even understand women

>>280799129
>typed this out and clicked post
Zoomers have zero self-awareness
You're going to have to find a literal baby show to watch because even Precure is going to have to much drama and conflict for you

>>280799136
I have sisters and they are absolute cunts which turned me away from 3D in the first place.

>>280788131 (OP)
I love evil bitches in anime set in real Japanese setting

There's something alluring about them within the context of modern Japanese society

At least she doesn't get "fixed" and turned into a lame normie like pic-related

>>280788131 (OP)
If you want to learn how women behave in real life, you should read Kanojo Okarishimasu and Shonen no Abyss.

>>280796969

>>280798519
Is this real? Does he start gloating about his evil plan or something? Sounds way too elaborate.

>>280788131 (OP)
Mami may be a piece of shit, but she's been hung up on a low value man for like 1.5 years now, which is fucking pathetic. I'd understand if she was simping for Umi. Hell, even Sasapai would make more sense.

>>280796969
Already? This is so getting axed.

>>280788131 (OP)
>better part
>25 years

zoom zoom

>>280789396
People hate it because it reminds them of how much they hate women, and they see themselves in the protagonist and it reminds them of what a weak simp they are and how they look to others.

It's not bad because it's "bad", it's bad because it holds up a mirror to the things we don't want to see in ourselves. We've ALL simped before.

>>280792168
Never even heard of it somehow until now.
Gonna download it now, thanks anon.

>>280799136
Yeah it's the 26th year where it really clicks for you.

>>280802877
>>280802877
Most men mature and grow out of simping. They don't need to see the flaw they've left behind for 300+ chapters straight. This manga has nothing to offer them.

seeing threads like this really makes me feel like /a/ is filled with tourists

>>280803146
If that's so, why do so many men in their 40s and 50s pay for OF accounts?

Also yeah that's why I'm only watching the anime I feel like reading a super slow show for that many chapters would drive me insane. I'm hoping they condense everything down nicely.

>>280803171
How? What did OP say that was incorrect? It isn't even about if you like that shit show/manga, but Mami is an evil conniving bitch but isn't some cartoon villain.

>>280802877
People hate it because they jumped on the bandwagon, they don't read it and either know 5 out of context panels that get constantly shared or parrot jewtuber nonsense.

>>280788207
You eventually run out of good and even mid shit to watch and eventually just watch everything so you can join in the discussion

>>280800114
Kanokari too.
Except Sumi, all of them behave quite realistic.

>>280802755
It has like 5 volumes left, they're now amidst the 8th or oth volume.

>>280803205
>What did OP say that was incorrect?
This part
>I can safely say that she is one of the most realistic depictions of a woman I've ever seen in anime.
This might be technically correct if in those 25 years he only watched like 20 titles, but otherwise this just a retarded opinion all around.
"Realistic" is not about being a bitch.

>>280805297
>5 volumes left
not happening, if the oldest sister arc is done already the youngest won't even get one or it will be the blood related revelation/ last arc.

>>280790443
She has her reasons to stalk somebody she hates.

>>280805382
Kotono will be the blood related revelstion.
There won't be last arc, but a conclusion. One of the NBR siblings will come back to Arata and that's the end. The most romantically driven is the one who will return.

>>280801565
>Mami may be a piece of shit, but she's been hung up on a low value man for like 1.5 years now, which is fucking pathetic
Still has a long road ahead to surpass a certain someone who was hung up on a pathetic simp who had the audacity to have an incel meltdown for 30 FUCKING YEARS... and even after his death (by cancer), she's still hung up.

>>280805524
No one asked.

>>280799635
>modern Japanese society
AKA >25yo women yapping because no one pick them all because of their outlandish expectations about a partner, or because they chose to be overachievers since high school and aimed to marry a male idoru, star actor, Yaluza leader or CEO child, only to hit a wall once they reach 25 and only have 2 options from there: Lower their standards and consider settling with a former childhood friend or a fellow salaryman as long as he's good looking and is financially stable... or become workaholic old maidens.
Although they have it a little bit better than worst koreans where women chose to voluntarily become femcels as a protest against their male population when they can't get a pretty boy from K-dramas or boy bands.

>>280806395
Just in case.
Sasuga both attack the overachieving women and old unmarried hags going back to the place they once dreamed about a happy life topics in May I live with You? Chika and Nonoka are like polar opposites in Hiromi's life while the sharehouse rangers are just there to give Hiromi another vision about adult romance.

>>280806471
This isn't the bad taste general.

>>280806471
the whole manga, but the last arc in particular is just a black pill on marriage.

>>280806580
You are in the wrong thread.

>>280806580
>the last arc in particular
Funny because Yukari (poledancing sharehouse ranger) was the one who was delivering blackpills this time.
Mw, Hiromi's childhood sweetheart (Nonoka) is the blank slate that's hughlighting Hiromi's qualities.
Still, we may end up getting blackpilled by Finland-chan's sudden call.

>>280805374
I mean you are just going with vastness and not actually offering any actual counter examples. She's a bitch but I get what OP is saying.

samefag

>>280806638
Read the OP, dumbass.
If you thought the OP text wasn't gonna be a launcher of blackpilled replies, then you are so fucking naive.

Go make your own "wholesome" bluepilled thread then.

>>280806395
I hope the next genre of shoujo anime that gets popular is the life of women through their 20's where they ride the cock carousel and then end up alone and miserable in their 30's

>>280806687
No one reads your shit, go make your own threads so they can die.

>>280805374
Whaaat? But that's how people on this board constantly siscuss sakura haruno! They can't be saying it as a backhanded insult and an excuse to make a hate thread!

>>280806713
I feel like you people don't read anything for that demographic at all. While there are girls who dont care about dating or kids, there are tons of jokes in women's media (josei, mainly) where career girls or girls nearing their thirties feel like their life will be over of they don't settle down at some point (which gets equally as stale). And most of those stories end up with that type of girl, of not married, then with some john who acts as her love interest. Also this perceived notion of "we need to teach young girls A Lesson with their media" sometimes makes the show hokey and less interesting

>>280806792
That's not a joke.

>>280796969
Is this how John Lennon actually died?

Arata hit him so hard people think he died in 1980.

>>280806792
There should be anime where it goes really brutal and real about it and not some jokes and eventual happy ending

Mw in the Apex Slut (overtakes the) manga (again)
Agawa sees Gotou, Akito and Shiina are acting too uncanny and gets bothered by what she saw. She rejects baseball chud because of that, witnesses Gotou saying he learned to balance his sex and academic life, but not convincing anyone. Chappy ends in cliffhanger with Agawa asking Gotou if he's free after school while he shows a comically evil face no one buys. Seems Agawa saw through his manwhore facade

>>280806947
You won't make your own thread because you know no one reads this trash.

>>280806973
Obsessed.

>>280807089
That doesn't even make any sense.

>>280803146
>Most men mature and grow out of simping

>>280807660
Sandler comedies can't be applied.
Bedazzled and 500 days of Summer (misery porn stories disguised as romcoms) shows why getting over simping is the best a man can do.

I was expecting you were gonna put Forrest Gump as an example (and still Gump managed to get over Jenny's ghost and score a dutch waifu in the canon sequel Gump's OG author did simply to sabotage a possible movie sequel). At least it's more understandable WHY Forrest simped for Jenny that hard.

>>280807789
who let the woman in here?

>>280807789
>500 days of Summer
Don't remind me of that shit.

>>280807789
500 days was the other one I would’ve posted but they didn’t simp out of no return, there’s a very good reason to simp that simply being you have established shared memories which makes you think that partner is significant. What isn’t cool is the other party not holding those memories in the same value which is a sad reality and all you can do is back off or continue hoping that the other person will start valuing said experiences, which does happen, it could be years later after they had maturing to do or never at all. But you relying on their eventual regret is a wishful gamble.

>>280807829
Said the retard who reads kanokari thinking it's a batoru shounenslop or an escapistic wishfulfilment story like kaorukuck or sono BBC Doll.

who are you quoting?
everyone knows only women read misery porn.

>>280808100
bro reads so much rental girlfriend he forgot about the reality of other relationship stories.

>>280808125
and what does that have to do with you being a woman?

>>280808174
Women wouldn’t be talking about the condition of herbivore male-focused character romcoms as much as we do.

>>280808264
You are just trying to dodge the issue, but only women talk about misery porn.

>>280808295
>>>/r9k/

>>280789545
>as an anime fan you watch both good and bad anime.
No? I watch maybe 2 new anime a year. Sometimes not even that. If you watch multiple new things a season you're actually brain damaged.

>>280808312
and?

>>280808295
Bruh, i get RaG was your 1st exposition to romance and is inevitable for you to see it as a batoru manga where MC can make miracles through irrational willpower. Stop behaving like an incel and treating people with more awareness and mileage in the hobby as if they were women.

>>280808336
Go there if you can't handle this thread.

>>280808369
seems like you should go there, maybe you can get off to all the miserable guys

>>280808355
There is nothing wrong with treating a woman like a woman.

For a series most people on /a/ seems to hate, there's a lot of discussion around it, every time something big happens there's threads about it for days, maybe I should actually gibe it a chance.

>>280808455
>making up your own mind
Is that even allowed?

>>280808397
Said the "man" who only reads nekketsu and WSJ romance for 9yo kids.

>>280808579
You think this is a story for 9 year olds?

>>280808631
No, but you see it as such by emphasizing on nekketsu tropes applied in this manga. Specifically bruteforcing feelings, being too stubborn about it and never growing up from that phase.

Maaan i miss late showa and early heisei WSJ romances, at least they didn't handwave the consequences to the characters' actions and nekketsu tropes were chastised back then. If i love kanokari is because it goes against hotblooded tropes and punishes the MC for being like that, while rewards him when he's gonna give up and act his age.

>>280808708
Is someone living rent free in your head?
All I've done is call you a woman because only women like misery porn.

>>280807789
Most of modern media in the past 30 years or so have been about men simping. It's baked into the cake.

>>280788131 (OP)
>cartoon woman said something I dont like I make my personality into hating her
>biggest waifu turns worse than mami ever was

>>280808455
It's one of those shows that is objectively bad but also very entertaining. Like I would never "recommend" someone watch it but I love hate watching it. It's like reality tv shows.

>>280808783
>objectively

>>280808779
Too many cases my man, too many cases.

>>280808753
Even if scarce, nip media was more ironic about that since 40 years ago.
Remember Macross became a sleeper hit not because of the mecha fights, but bc of the romantic plot. Hikaru has the typical growth a nip teenager, who still hadn't his life path defined, gets oneitis for a certain bitch who only sees him as a friend and since that point, he starts growing... and getting over his simpery bc he realizes he loves piloting transformable F14s, choosing to settle down with the woman he hated, then somehow grew attached bc of whatever experiences they shared, then came to resent again bc his oneitis was ready to settle with him... only to finally settle with her bc oneitis-chan shat on his career.
Despite of the fictional settling, the relationship issues were quite realistic. And the fact you'll very likely never end with the person you simped the most passionately, but settle down with another person simply out of fear of loneliness, survival or because that person makes you feel at home despite of not having romantic feelings was something that still resonates a lot.
Saint Seiya's OG run can be defined as "this is gonna be your fate if you don't grow up and stop simping people out of your league" (ND came to partially fix that, with Seiya choosing to carry the punishment Athena and the humankind were gonna get and bekng willing to be memory wiped by Apollo).
Maison Ikkoku shows the grvtal reality of winning your oneitis by the end, because it wasn't le happy end people was expecting. Yeah, Godai could plap the manager and marry her... but that wasn't a happy end, as they still live in the Ikkoku, are still struggling to make ends meet and worse of it... they still live in the Ikkoku.
I''s and Ichigo 100% were the last Shounen Jump realistic romances with consequences.

>>280809159
Okay boomer.

>>280809243
Come back when you're 18yo.

>board full of incels who cant get girls makes millionth thread confidently explaining the inner machinations of women.

>>280788131 (OP)
i can safely say, as you are someone who has been absorbed in nip cartoons for two and a half decades, you are not qualified to comment on women. kek.

>>280809316
How's the retirement home treating you?

>>280809331
/thread

>>280809331
...said king incel.
Go back to /r9k/

>>280809697
No one was even talking to you.

>>280810107
>>280810107
Gonna dump here.

>>280809355
This trolling is just sad you lack any hint of irony in your posts, oh no but you seriously think RentAGF is the Titanic of romances, get out of here and go mod for Fate or whatever.

>>280810250
>Titanic
You ready for it? Okay boomer.

>>280788207
Not him, but I have being watching anime for 34 years and after you have seen all good recommendations you will watch anything, good or bad.

Thread #45 since 380

Theres so much fucking text on the screen. It's especially worse this season too. I wanna watch anime not read a fucking manga.

>>280788131 (OP)
But how does she not have a newer, hotter boyfriend she's having lots of sex with?

>>280810800

I envy the people that haven't watched all the "classics" yet. They get to experience them for the first time.

>>280811242

Yeah I agree I understand dubfags more now. Ideally we would just be fluent in Japanese and watch the raws.

>>280811284
She has a fiancé. Unfortunately, this isn't Cuckoos. Nobody is coming to save her.

>>280812571
>T.delusional ScumZuru shippercel.

>>280811808
I don't watch old anime because it's dated

>>280814563
classics are not and the good ones are still enjoyable