Thread 280813480 - /a/ [Archived: 208 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:36:35 PM No.280813480
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This was hand-drawn and no CGI, no digital art.
1986 movie

And yet, there are people who claim modern anime is better than old anime
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:37:57 PM No.280813524
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:42:05 PM No.280813655
>>280813480 (OP)
A generation raised on digital post-processing wouldn't even know what animation is.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:49:31 PM No.280813906
>>280813480 (OP)
plenty of modern anime look better than that
you don't even have to look far, just watch ponyo and kaguya-hime
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:50:22 PM No.280813941
>>280813480 (OP)
frieren looks better and has deeper themes
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:50:44 PM No.280813955
Chiisana Eiyuu alone shits on every single cel anime ever made.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:52:28 PM No.280814006
>>280813480 (OP)
there are anime released before 1986 that look way better
why is that your example? too scared to watch anything that isn't popular on reddit?
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:54:34 PM No.280814067
>>280813655
fact
industry shill bots malding in the comments

Imagine being a modern anime fan? Could never be me.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:55:36 PM No.280814104
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Digital art is hand-drawn. Literally.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:58:10 PM No.280814200
>>280813480 (OP)
OLD GOOD NEW BAD

Looks like shit.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:59:29 PM No.280814271
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:00:47 PM No.280814322
>>280813906
>kaguya-hime
That's cheating
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:00:59 PM No.280814327
>>280813524
Even with all those fancy effects, OP still looks better
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:02:38 PM No.280814381
>>280813524
At least post the only good work by that hack
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpJ5GtK8ZoQ&ab_channel=RemasteringByCriszato
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:07:20 PM No.280814513
>it's another using a high budget movie/OVA and pretending it's representative of the average anime thread
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:20:03 PM No.280814958
>>280813480 (OP)
looks like shitty cartoon
disgusting westernized trash
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:31:51 PM No.280815347
>>280813906
nah op is still miles ahead
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:34:26 PM No.280815425
>>280813941
factually untrue, it is just demons bad
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:44:20 PM No.280815725
>>280815425
Please understand, it's his third anime
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:55:09 PM No.280816028
>>280813524
Wow they must have really good computers.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:57:26 PM No.280816100
>>280815725
lmao fuckin gottem
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:18:43 PM No.280816680
Bloodlust embaresses basically everything else.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:20:10 PM No.280816723
>>280813480 (OP)
Stupid boomer, every eras and years has its load of incredible anime and animations.
Your OLD GOOD NEW BAD kind who cant even see further than their own noses are so ignorant and boring.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:21:09 PM No.280816746
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>>280813480 (OP)
Remember: a whole team put the effort to sketch, draw and paint this whole background just for a joke in an episode of a series.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:24:16 PM No.280816813
>>280814271
richard williams was psychotic. this film took him over 2 decades and it was still unfinished when the studio yoinked it
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:27:38 PM No.280816907
>>280816746
God imagine going down this in a wheelchair.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:29:19 PM No.280816945
>>280813480 (OP)
plot so barebones winnie the pooh is like dostoevski compared to it
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:30:29 PM No.280816977
>>280816907
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEC_lkpD3rM&ab_channel=LudicrousSpeed
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:32:56 PM No.280817035
>>280814271
finished product with CGI will always be better than an unfinished hand-drawn product
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:34:03 PM No.280817067
>>280816746
can you prove this doesn't reuse animation?
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:34:48 PM No.280817088
>>280816746
This is mostly looped isn't it? Also same reaction.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:37:12 PM No.280817148
>>280813906
Nothing made now looks like Laputa because of object gradients, and that's just one obvious difference among many.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:37:16 PM No.280817151
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:38:38 PM No.280817191
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 9:56:35 PM No.280819277
>>280813480 (OP)
we had it good
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:08:13 PM No.280819674
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>>280813480 (OP)
Then you remember that a 4s scene took 15 months to complete and move on from hand-drawn animation for good.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:11:18 PM No.280819769
>>280819674
We should move anime production to Mauritania where slavery is still allowed
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:14:49 PM No.280819881
>>280813524
It looks very good, but after 5 Cm/s I feel like I am always reading the same type of story.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:17:18 PM No.280819973
>>280814271
impressive but honestly should have waited until it could be done on computers, not to make it in 3D but because the paper actually had physical limitation, they had to use gigantic papers to fix all the elements, plus having cells has disadvantage, that if you stick too many elements on the camera the drawing can become too tall, so there is a limit to how many elements you can have.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:30:30 PM No.280820422
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>>280816746
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:11:13 PM No.280821650
>>280813655
Yes they can, they use google just like you do
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:16:53 PM No.280821831
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>>280817191
Huge Disney appeal?
https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/co/image/1697/42/1697425379939.webm
https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/co/image/1697/42/1697425204838.webm
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:28:09 PM No.280822101
>>280817067
Check the splotches of paint on both the stairs and the trees surrounding the stairs.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:40:49 PM No.280822359
>>280816746
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wp3rzAdwT8
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:54:26 PM No.280822660
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 12:18:59 AM No.280823202
shizuku+kizuato artbook, minazuki tooru
shizuku+kizuato artbook, minazuki tooru
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>>280813480 (OP)

In cell animation each frame is a real physical, hand drawn, hand painted object, and it's all shot on film which portrays the natural colors of the cell's acrylic paint faithfully. whereas digital animation frames are just data stored in computers, and the colors look lifeless. More human involvement means more soul thus cell animation is better than digital when it comes to craftsmanship and artistic value.

Secondly cell animations are shot on film which portrays the natural colors of the cell's acrylic paint faithfully.
whereas digital animation abuses of artificial lightening to brighten colors.

so yes cell animation is indeed better than digital.
it needed to be said
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 12:21:48 AM No.280823276
In cell animation each frame is a real physical, hand drawn, hand painted object, and it's all shot on film which portrays the natural colors of the cell's acrylic paint faithfully. whereas digital animation frames are just data stored in computers, and the colors look lifeless. More human involvement means more soul thus cell animation is better than digital when it comes to craftsmanship and artistic value.

so yes cell animation is indeed better than digital.
it needed to be said
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 12:22:57 AM No.280823314
>>280821831
Disney used to make beautiful movies.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 12:45:06 AM No.280823949
>>280815425
You didn't watch it.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 12:57:47 AM No.280824305
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>>280821831
Yes. Watch old Toei films.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 12:59:22 AM No.280824348
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>>280824305
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 12:59:27 AM No.280824355
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>>280813480 (OP)
I prefer Nichijiou's animation.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:00:13 AM No.280824373
>>280824305
Already seen it.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:02:07 AM No.280824422
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>>280824373
Then watch more of of them + their shorts
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:12:13 AM No.280824692
>>280813480 (OP)
Il cierre y sigla d ete animecito estuvo muito WOW :v
https://youtu.be/DmxkoaPW23w?si=nlv91_NHWduXLA1X
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:14:04 AM No.280824743
>>280813524
That sure is a lot of rapid shots not holding on any one scene for too.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:18:45 AM No.280824863
>>280817067
the fact that it's a constant smooth shot is a pretty solid indication.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:35:26 AM No.280825322
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It gets said a decent bit but I feel like the problem with so much animation is rarely to do with the animators themselves. On a certain level they still show case technical ability. Rather the issue is a deeper on that has to do with a lack of direction or how proper film making works. There's a lot that goes into this kind of thing and I'm no film school expert so I can only give my own layman opinion but it really seems to me to be a fault of directors rather than animators.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:37:59 AM No.280825378
>>280816746
Where did they even get such a giant sheet of paper with no seams?
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:44:55 AM No.280825572
>>280825378
From a very big tree.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:49:01 AM No.280825663
>>280813480 (OP)
It is better than that
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:50:13 AM No.280825694
>>280813524
Based showing OP as a nostalgiafag
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:50:30 AM No.280825704
>>280813480 (OP)
To be fair, Castle in the Sky isn't very good as far as Ghibli works go.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:00:34 AM No.280825953
>>280813480 (OP)
BULLSHIT!!! There is NO FUCKING WAY that this girl falls into his arms with all her weight and he can catch and hold her without them both falling forward to their deaths, especially when they're right on the ledge. This is fucking retarded.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:23:53 AM No.280826494
>>280825953
Cope, its better than modern anime because it was made when I was 10, go back, modern anime is bad in comparison to this
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:08:57 AM No.280827357
>>280816907
I warned you about stairs bro
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:16:09 AM No.280827511
Miyazaki good, Nakayama bad
upvotes please
edit: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:16:27 AM No.280827513
>>280813524
All scenery and no human animation except for a few walk and stills. Also why does nu-directors like to switch angles so much so quickly? If its so good give me a second to enjoy it
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:19:33 AM No.280827578
>>280813480 (OP)
Endless reruns of Howl's Moving Castle on Cartoon Network as kid made me never want to watch anything Ghibli-style ever again
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:27:37 AM No.280827759
>>280827513
>no human animation
Do you retards actually think that even CGI or even digital animation is just something you push a button and the computer makes it automatically? We're not to doing that yet even with AI bullshit.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:30:31 AM No.280827837
>>280827578
I don't remember Howl's Moving Castle on CN, but I do remember watching Spirited Away for the first time on that TV channel. I don't remember them doing reruns of that movie either, so my memory of it is still fond.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:31:33 AM No.280827868
>>280825953
Anything to say about the levitation?
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:33:14 AM No.280827911
>>280813480 (OP)
What is supposed to look good about this?
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:34:27 AM No.280827939
>>280827911
Hand drawn animation and not dirty CGI and digital animation. Old good new bad.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:58:56 AM No.280828493
>>280816813
He was more than a bit fucking retarded durring production. When the card sequence was animated, he decided he didn't like the order of the cards: so he had the entire sequence reanimated rather than just change the card faces.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 4:00:56 AM No.280828541
>>280813524
OP murdered with no mercy.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 4:16:16 AM No.280828849
>>280819674
Soon AI will able to do the same scene in 2 minutes.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 4:16:19 AM No.280828850
>>280813524
Cute but sterile
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 4:36:14 AM No.280829222
>>280825322
I think I'm inclined to agree. there was a thread a while ago comparing OPM season 1 to modern shows like frieren and solo leveling and while the animation was comparable I think there was a pretty major difference in subject matter where OPM really shone with the framing and pacing and "camera angles"
Nothing wrong with the other shows' animation really but the clips posted In the thread were simply less readable and depicting less interesting movement
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:45:08 AM No.280830636
>>280813480 (OP)
lol