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Anonymous No.280813480 >>280813655 >>280813906 >>280813941 >>280814006 >>280814200 >>280814958 >>280816723 >>280816746 >>280816945 >>280819277 >>280819674 >>280823202 >>280824355 >>280824692 >>280825663 >>280825704 >>280825953 >>280827578 >>280827911 >>280830636
This was hand-drawn and no CGI, no digital art.
1986 movie

And yet, there are people who claim modern anime is better than old anime
Anonymous No.280813524 >>280814327 >>280814381 >>280816028 >>280819881 >>280824743 >>280825694 >>280827513 >>280828541 >>280828850
Anonymous No.280813655 >>280814067 >>280821650
>>280813480 (OP)
A generation raised on digital post-processing wouldn't even know what animation is.
Anonymous No.280813906 >>280814322 >>280815347 >>280817148
>>280813480 (OP)
plenty of modern anime look better than that
you don't even have to look far, just watch ponyo and kaguya-hime
Anonymous No.280813941 >>280815425
>>280813480 (OP)
frieren looks better and has deeper themes
Anonymous No.280813955
Chiisana Eiyuu alone shits on every single cel anime ever made.
Anonymous No.280814006
>>280813480 (OP)
there are anime released before 1986 that look way better
why is that your example? too scared to watch anything that isn't popular on reddit?
Anonymous No.280814067
>>280813655
fact
industry shill bots malding in the comments

Imagine being a modern anime fan? Could never be me.
Anonymous No.280814104
Digital art is hand-drawn. Literally.
Anonymous No.280814200
>>280813480 (OP)
OLD GOOD NEW BAD

Looks like shit.
Anonymous No.280814271 >>280816813 >>280817035 >>280819973
Anonymous No.280814322
>>280813906
>kaguya-hime
That's cheating
Anonymous No.280814327
>>280813524
Even with all those fancy effects, OP still looks better
Anonymous No.280814381
>>280813524
At least post the only good work by that hack
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpJ5GtK8ZoQ&ab_channel=RemasteringByCriszato
Anonymous No.280814513
>it's another using a high budget movie/OVA and pretending it's representative of the average anime thread
Anonymous No.280814958
>>280813480 (OP)
looks like shitty cartoon
disgusting westernized trash
Anonymous No.280815347
>>280813906
nah op is still miles ahead
Anonymous No.280815425 >>280815725 >>280823949
>>280813941
factually untrue, it is just demons bad
Anonymous No.280815725 >>280816100
>>280815425
Please understand, it's his third anime
Anonymous No.280816028
>>280813524
Wow they must have really good computers.
Anonymous No.280816100
>>280815725
lmao fuckin gottem
Anonymous No.280816680
Bloodlust embaresses basically everything else.
Anonymous No.280816723
>>280813480 (OP)
Stupid boomer, every eras and years has its load of incredible anime and animations.
Your OLD GOOD NEW BAD kind who cant even see further than their own noses are so ignorant and boring.
Anonymous No.280816746 >>280816907 >>280817067 >>280817088 >>280820422 >>280822359 >>280825378
>>280813480 (OP)
Remember: a whole team put the effort to sketch, draw and paint this whole background just for a joke in an episode of a series.
Anonymous No.280816813 >>280828493
>>280814271
richard williams was psychotic. this film took him over 2 decades and it was still unfinished when the studio yoinked it
Anonymous No.280816907 >>280816977 >>280827357
>>280816746
God imagine going down this in a wheelchair.
Anonymous No.280816945
>>280813480 (OP)
plot so barebones winnie the pooh is like dostoevski compared to it
Anonymous No.280816977
>>280816907
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEC_lkpD3rM&ab_channel=LudicrousSpeed
Anonymous No.280817035
>>280814271
finished product with CGI will always be better than an unfinished hand-drawn product
Anonymous No.280817067 >>280822101 >>280824863
>>280816746
can you prove this doesn't reuse animation?
Anonymous No.280817088
>>280816746
This is mostly looped isn't it? Also same reaction.
Anonymous No.280817148
>>280813906
Nothing made now looks like Laputa because of object gradients, and that's just one obvious difference among many.
Anonymous No.280817151
Anonymous No.280817191 >>280821831
Anonymous No.280819277
>>280813480 (OP)
we had it good
Anonymous No.280819674 >>280819769 >>280828849
>>280813480 (OP)
Then you remember that a 4s scene took 15 months to complete and move on from hand-drawn animation for good.
Anonymous No.280819769
>>280819674
We should move anime production to Mauritania where slavery is still allowed
Anonymous No.280819881
>>280813524
It looks very good, but after 5 Cm/s I feel like I am always reading the same type of story.
Anonymous No.280819973
>>280814271
impressive but honestly should have waited until it could be done on computers, not to make it in 3D but because the paper actually had physical limitation, they had to use gigantic papers to fix all the elements, plus having cells has disadvantage, that if you stick too many elements on the camera the drawing can become too tall, so there is a limit to how many elements you can have.
Anonymous No.280820422
>>280816746
Anonymous No.280821650
>>280813655
Yes they can, they use google just like you do
Anonymous No.280821831 >>280823314 >>280824305
>>280817191
Huge Disney appeal?
https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/co/image/1697/42/1697425379939.webm
https://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/co/image/1697/42/1697425204838.webm
Anonymous No.280822101
>>280817067
Check the splotches of paint on both the stairs and the trees surrounding the stairs.
Anonymous No.280822359
>>280816746
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wp3rzAdwT8
Anonymous No.280822660
Anonymous No.280823202
>>280813480 (OP)

In cell animation each frame is a real physical, hand drawn, hand painted object, and it's all shot on film which portrays the natural colors of the cell's acrylic paint faithfully. whereas digital animation frames are just data stored in computers, and the colors look lifeless. More human involvement means more soul thus cell animation is better than digital when it comes to craftsmanship and artistic value.

Secondly cell animations are shot on film which portrays the natural colors of the cell's acrylic paint faithfully.
whereas digital animation abuses of artificial lightening to brighten colors.

so yes cell animation is indeed better than digital.
it needed to be said
Anonymous No.280823276
In cell animation each frame is a real physical, hand drawn, hand painted object, and it's all shot on film which portrays the natural colors of the cell's acrylic paint faithfully. whereas digital animation frames are just data stored in computers, and the colors look lifeless. More human involvement means more soul thus cell animation is better than digital when it comes to craftsmanship and artistic value.

so yes cell animation is indeed better than digital.
it needed to be said
Anonymous No.280823314
>>280821831
Disney used to make beautiful movies.
Anonymous No.280823949
>>280815425
You didn't watch it.
Anonymous No.280824305 >>280824348 >>280824373
>>280821831
Yes. Watch old Toei films.
Anonymous No.280824348
>>280824305
Anonymous No.280824355
>>280813480 (OP)
I prefer Nichijiou's animation.
Anonymous No.280824373 >>280824422
>>280824305
Already seen it.
Anonymous No.280824422
>>280824373
Then watch more of of them + their shorts
Anonymous No.280824692
>>280813480 (OP)
Il cierre y sigla d ete animecito estuvo muito WOW :v
https://youtu.be/DmxkoaPW23w?si=nlv91_NHWduXLA1X
Anonymous No.280824743
>>280813524
That sure is a lot of rapid shots not holding on any one scene for too.
Anonymous No.280824863
>>280817067
the fact that it's a constant smooth shot is a pretty solid indication.
Anonymous No.280825322 >>280829222
It gets said a decent bit but I feel like the problem with so much animation is rarely to do with the animators themselves. On a certain level they still show case technical ability. Rather the issue is a deeper on that has to do with a lack of direction or how proper film making works. There's a lot that goes into this kind of thing and I'm no film school expert so I can only give my own layman opinion but it really seems to me to be a fault of directors rather than animators.
Anonymous No.280825378 >>280825572
>>280816746
Where did they even get such a giant sheet of paper with no seams?
Anonymous No.280825572
>>280825378
From a very big tree.
Anonymous No.280825663
>>280813480 (OP)
It is better than that
Anonymous No.280825694
>>280813524
Based showing OP as a nostalgiafag
Anonymous No.280825704
>>280813480 (OP)
To be fair, Castle in the Sky isn't very good as far as Ghibli works go.
Anonymous No.280825953 >>280826494 >>280827868
>>280813480 (OP)
BULLSHIT!!! There is NO FUCKING WAY that this girl falls into his arms with all her weight and he can catch and hold her without them both falling forward to their deaths, especially when they're right on the ledge. This is fucking retarded.
Anonymous No.280826494
>>280825953
Cope, its better than modern anime because it was made when I was 10, go back, modern anime is bad in comparison to this
Anonymous No.280827357
>>280816907
I warned you about stairs bro
Anonymous No.280827511
Miyazaki good, Nakayama bad
upvotes please
edit: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!
Anonymous No.280827513 >>280827759
>>280813524
All scenery and no human animation except for a few walk and stills. Also why does nu-directors like to switch angles so much so quickly? If its so good give me a second to enjoy it
Anonymous No.280827578 >>280827837
>>280813480 (OP)
Endless reruns of Howl's Moving Castle on Cartoon Network as kid made me never want to watch anything Ghibli-style ever again
Anonymous No.280827759
>>280827513
>no human animation
Do you retards actually think that even CGI or even digital animation is just something you push a button and the computer makes it automatically? We're not to doing that yet even with AI bullshit.
Anonymous No.280827837
>>280827578
I don't remember Howl's Moving Castle on CN, but I do remember watching Spirited Away for the first time on that TV channel. I don't remember them doing reruns of that movie either, so my memory of it is still fond.
Anonymous No.280827868
>>280825953
Anything to say about the levitation?
Anonymous No.280827911 >>280827939
>>280813480 (OP)
What is supposed to look good about this?
Anonymous No.280827939
>>280827911
Hand drawn animation and not dirty CGI and digital animation. Old good new bad.
Anonymous No.280828493
>>280816813
He was more than a bit fucking retarded durring production. When the card sequence was animated, he decided he didn't like the order of the cards: so he had the entire sequence reanimated rather than just change the card faces.
Anonymous No.280828541
>>280813524
OP murdered with no mercy.
Anonymous No.280828849
>>280819674
Soon AI will able to do the same scene in 2 minutes.
Anonymous No.280828850
>>280813524
Cute but sterile
Anonymous No.280829222
>>280825322
I think I'm inclined to agree. there was a thread a while ago comparing OPM season 1 to modern shows like frieren and solo leveling and while the animation was comparable I think there was a pretty major difference in subject matter where OPM really shone with the framing and pacing and "camera angles"
Nothing wrong with the other shows' animation really but the clips posted In the thread were simply less readable and depicting less interesting movement
Anonymous No.280830636
>>280813480 (OP)
lol