Chapter 9: Family

5, 6, 7, 8 >>280696044

>>280817857 (OP)
Hi OP

>>280817888
Meido!

>>280817892
Good man

>>280817951
Nice sisters

>>280818040
Shut up retard

>>280818101
Time to disown the house

>>280818199
Serious feel

And that's it. Things are going south fast.
Would you abandon everything for a maid?

>>280818233
She's a 10

>>280818254
Thanks OP
Have fuck all to abandon anyway, but yes

>>280818009
Everyone loves Hakim

>>280818233
Very cute braids

>>280818254
Being rich SUCKS
I'd abandon everything for an artist
Thanks as always OP!

>>280817951
cute sisters

>>280818040
lol based Hakim

>>280818120
O MY CULTURE

>>280818214
welp, FUCK
>>280818254
Thanks, OP. Yeah, I'd do it for all of them except the stinky ugly dork one.

>>280817951
Colin is so cute. I feel like writing Mori letters on how cute he is.

>>280817908
>Emma... this is a manga... a work of fiction... you will win

>>280818040
>he knows

>>280818254
>Would you abandon everything for a maid?
Depends on the maid.

>>280820085
she's so flat it hurts

>>280818009
>Ladies, contain yourselves.

>>280820210
Your dick, right?

>>280821140
and my heart.

>>280817951
Shota in sailor uniforms are my number one weakness.

>>280818199
>CRAAAWWWLIIING IIIIN MYYYY SKIIIIN

>>280818254
Thanks, anonsito.

>>280818120
lol

>>280818254
>Would you abandon everything for a maid?
I would rather marry Eleanor or my cute imouto. Thanks op.

>>280818254
>Would you abandon everything for a maid?
if it were someone like Emma, maybe. but I'd marry anon's >>280825138 imouto too.

>>280818140
>you have all this unrequested pressure
Fuck them. Who cares what your ancestors would think? Did they only have children because they wanted indentured servants?

>>280818254
Thanks OP
>Would you abandon everything for a maid?
Not necessarily because she is a maid. But I would abandon my status for a maid. After all, it's not like Arthur would lose all his money. After all, what's the point in living a life you hate for a family that refuses to accept you. He has a duty, to whom? His siblings? They're not his voters, why does he owe them anything? His ancestors? That always manifests as someone declaring "Your dead relatives happen to want from you exactly what I do". The dead can't make demands. Arthur owes nothing to anybody

>>280826000
If he can enjoy the good life instead of cleaning victorian toilets it's because of his ancestors. I dont think the father is wrong in asking him to consider his familial duties.

>implying his ancestors wouldn't give Emma a good tumble in their time

>>280826157
They would, but marriage is a different thing.

>>280826119
>it's because of his ancestors
Do you believe his ancestors worked hard because they wanted their children to serve as debtors to them or because they wanted their children to live better lives than they did?
Every actual parent I've met says they work hard simply to give their children good lives, and ask for nothing in return. However, everyone I've ever heard weaponize the dead parents of others invent some kind of moral loan

>>280826261
>they wanted their children to live better lives than they did
By marrying a maid you make a step back in the society, thus you're giving an harder time to your children. If your ancestors worked for their children, and you're reaping the benefits, why you only care about yourself? Shouldnt at least consider a little more such an important decision? Personally i dont blame the father, i would have done the same, back then the chaste system was no joke.

>>280826397
*caste system

>>280826261
Yes, they worked hard to provide their children a good life, you can enjoy it a bit but they expect you to do the same for your children and so on and so forth, and not set the family back by marrying a poor

>>280826397
Arthur is still a wealthy man, his children will enjoy lives better than 99% of humans before them. Marrying a maid does not condemn them to a lifetime of chimney sweeping.

>>280826464
It's not like he's marrying a maid and then blowing all the cash on the honeymoon. His children are still going to live good lives, but at some point you also have to live for yourself

>>280826576
Correct me if I'm wrong, but he doesn't have his own money, if he doesn't do as he's told he's getting cut off and will have to *gasp* work to live

>>280826626
From what I understood here >>280818140, Arthur marrying Emma would get him cast out of the gentry, but not disowned by his family

>>280818040
Draaamaaa

>>280817908
>if you would please consult the graphs

>>280826655
No, he likely would be disowned and disinherited if he married against their wishes. His father would remove him from his position at the company, and he would have to leave the family home. If his father was merciful he'd perhaps find him a humble position overseas.

I kind of forgot how fast the first chapters go when this still has more than 60 chapters left.

>>280827009
Damn, what a jackass. Maybe my dad is crazy, but he doesn't attach his love to a series of byzantine conditions.
Regardless, Dad blackmailing his own son does not change that Arthur is in the moral right to marry whomever he pleases

>>280826261
The problem here is that his dad is the one with the money, his dad is currently alive, and his dad is currently trying to create a better life (either for himself or his children). Yes, he's using MUH ANCESTORS as an excuse, but he's technically one of William's ancestors and his actions are intended to increase the family's prosperity.

>>280827121
See above, that's basically just blackmailing his own child with the threat of destitution.

>>280818233
this whole manga is yomi's very, very long new year's dream

>>280827142
Yeah, because it's a threat the the family's wealth. He has himself and three other kids to think about. I certainly wouldn't behave this way, but it's not like he's blindly running around being a villain. There is cultural, economic, and personal context to why he might want his son to marry a hotter, richer, younger girl instead of some random maid.

This is also separate to the point I was initially responding to (the comment about what your ancestors would have wanted), which I don't find sporting.

>>280827662
>Yeah, because it's a threat the the family's wealth.
Not in any substantive way. Marrying a commoner would take the family from pretty wealthy to kinda wealthy. Which is to say, they'd still have more than enough money to live comfortably. That's not nearly a big enough deal to force someone into an unhappy marriage for
>He has ... three other kids to think about.
No he doesn't, those are not his children. At least, I assume you're talking about Arthur and not Dad here. The siblings are not Arthur's children, and I don't think anyone should be held accountable to children they did not have.
>There is cultural, economic, and personal context to why he might want his son to marry a hotter, richer, younger girl instead of some random maid.
Sure, but he's still wrong
>This is also separate to the point I was initially responding to (the comment about what your ancestors would have wanted), which I don't find sporting.
I just roll my eyes whenever anyone brings up dead ancestors. It's ALWAYS "I polled your dead relatives and they happen to 100% agree with me". It's total nonsense. Tons of people who are alive right now would choose to marry a commoner if it meant giving up some wealth. For all we know, those people could be in the majority of the dead. After all, I'd wager a lot of our hunter gatherer ancestors wouldn't care about the class difference. It just means nothing. It's a poor attempt at societal peer pressure done by those who know that logic is against them

>>280817951
Four way with all the younger siblings

>>280818120
But what if the cat looks really really cute in a maid uniform

>>280817857 (OP)
La Familia...
>>280818159
>playing Crusader Kings
>>280818254
thanks, OP. Thank goodness I don't live in such a society

>>280818233
My mother would stay overnight with my grandmother after her fall.

>>280818261
Based post

>Liking London