Thread 280819060

Sasuke Recovery Mission
Chapter 209: Help Arrives!!

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Thanks for joining and reading.

>>280819195
CUUUUUUUUTO

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>>280819261
CUUUUUUUUTO*

Daily faggot thread.

>>280819332
CHUDkamaru

>>280819060 (OP)
My VILLAINS and Sakon.

>>280819500
at this point he has separated the enemy from the objective. just grab the barrel and leave

>>280819610
I CAN'T BELIEVE SASUKE FUCKING DIED!

>>280819069
The spectre of Dragon Ball truly looms everywhere
>>280819261
I really do love these architecture shots, but I wonder if all of this just got passed to the assistants to do

>>280819438
Which is the biggest chakralet between shika and kakashi?

>>280819332
>See, it's against my code to strike a lady.
>Then again, do you really fit the definition...?
>Nah, guess not.
Uhh, Tayuyabros? That curse mark gives a little something "extra"?

>>280819464
Boy the sexual tension is off the charts!

>>280819735
Itachi is COOKED

>>280819530
>>280819566
Skeleton? UNSTOPPABLE.
>>280819711
>>280819735
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKle5-2MzK4

>>280819069
>Dragon Ball already finished the OG story and was near the half of Z by volume 24
>Meanwhile Naruto isn't even done with part 1 by volume 24
Jesus.

ENTER

>>280819772
>forget it.. in DEATH
what a fucking edgelord, I see orochimaru has a type

>>280819952
MIGHT GUY!!
KIMIMARO IS COOKED

>>280819995
>blue beast

>>280819772
I hate this so much... It just makes me think 'what if MY boyfriend ignored me and ran away like that?' especially if he was leaving me for a creepy older man.
Just the thought is enough to give a guy a panic attack.

Chapter 209: Help Arrives!!

END
Tomorrow: Lee's Secret!!

>>280819952
>SOMEHOW he ran all the way out of here and tracked these guys down with no leads while fresh out of the hospital
How the FUCK

>>280820028
>He's... not as easy as the others
Jesus christ, Kimimaro is sizing him up as a larger threat than a bunch of FOXruto clones?

>>280820028
Leebros, our guy is a kimimaro-certified badass! I can't wait to see what unrivaled feats of might kishimoto's got planned for him!

>>280819069
Kishi telling on himself a little there with the Ginyu Force comparison.

>>280820028
I wonder how weightless gates Lee doesn't kick this guys head of 10 seconds into the fight.

>>280819952
I've had poops that lasted longer than Lee's surgery

>>280819952
Translator can change shogi to chess, yet won't change "blue" to "green" with Gai and Lee. What a chucklefuck.

>>280820227
forever wipes? yea they suck man I can relate, ass is raw at the end of it

>>280819952
I really can't tell if Kimimaro got hit here or if he dodged Lee's attack.

>>280820275
Not like she's going down from a regular ol punch

>>280820280
Shogi to Chess is dumb considering the differentiating rules, but apparently both blue or green can apply here.

>>280819060 (OP)
waifu alert

>>280820367
Lee is clearly green, not blue.

>>280820401
>AIEEEE! Save me Temari!

>>280820405
I don't agree with it but the original text never specifies it's green.

>>280820405
The japanese apparently don't have a word for green and it's just blue there as well. But the english language has a word for green, so it makes no sense not to make the correction.

>>280819332
Shikmaru could have scored here if didn't say this shit. He could have sweettalked her and convince her to be a good girl

>>280819360
>handholding
lewd

>>280819396
In the Chunin Exams, when Shikamaru captured Gaara with the shadow jutsu and Naruto punched him, Shikamaru felt the pain from the punch as well. If that's how this jutsu works, wouldn't snapping Tayuya's neck with those shadow hands also kill Shikamaru?

>>280819566
It's kind of funny the real Naruto is just stood there seething with rage the whole fight but never actually attacks Kimimaro.

>>280820752
He says in a previous chapter it's a different jutsu so I guess it just works differently. Which kind of makes sense because he's using the shadows as a physical thing, not connecting his shadow and hers.

>>280820028
ty op

>>280820795
Isn't that the smart thing to do, hanging back and observing the opponents moveset

Get ready, Leebros...This will be our decisive moment!

>>280819060 (OP)
>>280819099
My VILLAINS!

>>280819261
What is she looking at?

>>280820958
It's smart but you would think rage mode Naruto would be more aggressive

>>280819952
holy fuarrrrrk

>>280819332
>Calls himself nice guy while attempting to strike a woman with the biggest chud babble imaginable
Kishimoto couldn't make it MORE obvious without straight up giving Shikamaru the Nickname of "Masashi".

>>280820032
Looks like Lee was a splendid shinobi afterall. Imagine him just walking past Choji and Nejis corpse, seeing Shikamaru locked in a hug battle with Tayuya and just running past them

>>280819610
>stops going fox mode upon seeing Sasuke
Fag

>>280819952
A weakned Lee could hit Kimimaro but multiple Naruto clones couldn't?

>>280820238
hot
moar

>>280820028
>>280820089
Kishimoto really doesn't care about the scale he already established lmao.

>>280821270
Base-state recovering-from-surgery lee would have punched CM2 sasuke's lights out with a single blow

>>280820238
I want your head of a stake for this

>>280820348
The attack is weak anyways, I mean even Kin tanked it

>>280820028
>>280820888
>>280821182
Arigatou, OP!

>>280821182
thanks brah

yeah taijutsu fucking sucks in this setting

4/5 of the sound five hard counter taijutsu

>>280821446
No? Explain how

Cm2 Tayuya probably is the coolest female design in the series

You can tell Lee's inclusion wasn't originally planned at all.

>>280819689
>Which is the biggest chakralet between shika and kakashi?
Shikamaru is at least explained by being a lazy bum, but why is Kakashi so low in chakra reserves?

>>280821493
not him but let's see
>kidomaru
bullshit metal skin armor
>sakon/ukon
body surf ability
>jirobo
super strength?
>tayuya
I guess she's the one that doesn't counter it?
>kimimaro
bone spikes and apparently invicibility

Here's another reason why Sasuke's coma didn't change his power at all, Lee here is still fast enough to reach Naruto and be somehow BETTER than Fox Naruto despite being in bed for longer than Sasuke.

>>280821587
it kinda fucks up the dramatic timing of the sand siblings showing up

>>280821735
Kishi should just have had Gaara and co showing up.

>>280821587
Lee should have been saved as a reveal for Shippuden. Hmm. If he was, then when would he have his ENTER moment?

I thought Kidomaru was already stronger than Lee by Neji's on accord, and Sakon basically beat up a weightless Lee opponent in Sasuke.
How the fuck is a weakned Lee this strong still? He was supposed to be powercrept like hell.

You think Kimimaro had less trouble beating Naruto clones than he did against the Sound 4?

I used to have the headcanon that Kimimaro got progressively weakned as the fight went on but he straight up says he's better than Naruto despite how little sense that makes.

>>280821894
Obviously. But it also strange how he beat an army of kurama amped clones without a curse mark. But yea, Kidomaru at least should force him into CM1.

>>280821343
>>280821295

>>280821832
Maybe versus Kakazu in place of Naruto. That part of the fight always sucked.

>>280821372
>>280821446
Taijutsu feels very DEX-coded, characters can move super fast but their hits have no stopping power for some reason

>>280819678
prelude of his CM.

>>280819952
MY FUARKING HERO IS HERE!

>>280820028
Thank you OP.

>>280820752
This is shadow binding, not shadow imitation.

>>280821493
I think Kidomaru for his web, Tayuya for the revolt of the demon world, Sakon for the fusion and Kimimaro for the bone spikes

>>280819678
why is he such a stinky boy?

>>280819060 (OP)
I like Sakon’s hair color here. In the anime it’s a lot more faded and doesn’t stand out too much.

>>280819164
I wish we saw more of green hair Orochimaru.

>>280821596
Having an implanted Sharingan constantly drains him because he's not an Uchiha. It's a miracle he can fire off so many Chidoris without keeling over.

>>280819396
Wow I don’t remember this at all. So does this mean the other Sound 4 or even Sausage can also change their CM2 forms on the fly like this?

>>280819610
>Purple smoke
>Purple
>the color of eeeevvviiillllll

>>280819360
So Tayuya could have just beaten Shikamaru to death if they both didn't have any jutsu on?

>>280819530
>>280819566
Why is this clone in base?

>>280819735
This would not be the last time we see Sasuke laugh like a deranged freak.

>>280820089
Tsubasa is a jobber btw.

>>280820026
This scene is gayer than any yaoi scene conceived in mankind’s history and is the number one example of Naruto (the character) being a fucking joke.

>>280820227
Have you timed yourself anon?

>>280819678
roid aura

>>280820405
>>280820478
Does anyone remember if the English dub changed it to green beast?

>>280821103
He'd probably be more aggressive if Tay didn't punch the shit out him but he said "Oh damn these people are really damn strong" and could see even Tayuya was nervous of that guy

>>280822872
I think it did, but then had it turned back to blue for some reason.

>>280822730
Can't imagine fox chakra lasts all that long when you spread it out over a thousand clones.

>Neji
>Gaara
>Kimimaro
Christ, Lee has the worst luck constantly running into defensive juggernauts, I'm surprised Kishi avoided giving Guy anything similar there

Can't wait to see the sand fellows again

Gai is called the Blue Beast because when he opens the 7th Gate his aura is blue. When he opens the 8th Gate he becomes the "Red Beast".

>>280823145
>RGBeast

>>280819164
I still remember getting absolutely flashbanged by this page back when I was a wee lad. That's when I learned to NEVER look at character pages like these just in case there's spoilers.

>>280821974
We see through the course of the series how strong having a kekkei genkai can make you.

>>280819296
>>280819360
>>280820661
>>280819464
Cute!

>>280823675
And that's completely irrelevant to my post.

>>280820028
YEAH I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE LEE FINALLY GET HIS WIN
HARDWORKBROS WERE SO BACK

>>280823901
I'M BUYING LEECOIN RIGHT NOW
MOON MISSION INCOMING

>>280821221
I could see Lee it ignoring Neji's corpse out of spite

Are all of Kimimaro's flashbacks anime only? I remember one scene with Orochimaru telling kid Kimimaro that there's no point to life which really stuck with me, but I don't know if it's in the manga as well.

>>280819464
>>280819438
>>280819396
>>280819360
>>280819793

>sexual tension is off the charts
Till this day I still wonder if Tayuya and shikamaru would have gotten together if she was allowed to live and develop as a character. Unironically she started to show some sense of humility in her opponent after demonstrating how close her IQ was to his .years later it hurts just to think about it.

>>280819500
Couldn’t a shadow clone just grab the barrel and just make a run for it?

>>280819772
Hey how does Sasuke even know where to go for Orochimaru's hide out anyway? Did the sound 4 give him explicit directions before jarring?

>>280824221
Fuck off you insufferable retard

>>280824413
I'll take tayuyafag any day over the other one

>>280819396
>>280819438
>>280819464
All this deadlock is missing is a big aura to really sell it

>>280824110
I don't think the flashbacks happen this early

>>280819678
>>280819735
CRAWLING IN MY SKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

>>280824413
No.

>>280824413
don't be mean..this is nice zone..

>>280823999
Why sould he? Lee admires Neji as his rival.

>>280821221
It's not taijutsu, it's tayjutsu

>>280824221
>Till this day I still wonder if Tayuya and shikamaru would have gotten together if
hussies get the fan

Why didn't Naruto rasengan bone guy?

>>280824811
:*<

It's like torture reading Boruto after reading this.,

>>280824629
Nta, but someone literally posted porn while i was on a bus.
This shit ain't safe.

>>280824811
Alpha Temari crushing poor girl Tayuya's dream and lungs under a tree!!

>>280825055
I never read Boruto and have no plans to do so. Ikemoto's designs are all I need to know about that mess.

>>280824936
Hell, CHIEF TOAD should've made short work out of bone boy

>>280825117
Oh it's just awful, but I have to see this series to it's completion.

>>280825129
Gamabunta really is the Kienza/destructo disk of part 1, readers will always question "Why didn't Naruto summon him or even tried?" and Kishi will have no real answer outside of plot.

>>280820428
>Ok but you have to do anything I say

>>280824936
Kishi didn't want to show Mc murdering a person.

>>280825228
why even learn the ribcage obliterator technique then?

>>280825286
It was supposed to be a kamehameha rip off where its a fun harmless energy beam. Editor san was like "lEtS mAkE iT a DaNgErOuS tEcHnIqUe"

>>280825355
To be fair, the Kamehameha has killed a lot of people, so I think editor-san was actually following the money

>>280825094
>while i was on a bus
Do you browse 4chan in public? Feels kinda heretical

>>280825228
that's bullshit, naruto didn't hesitate to use the rasengan against kabuto or sasuke AND he spent the entire first part of this mission yapping about how he's going to shove one up the asses of the sound 4.
He should have been spamming that shit in this fight

>>280825055
How come? Asking as someone who has never read or watched Boruto.

>>280825482
Kimimaro would have died before he even showed his super awesome forms :(

>>280819332
>>280819464
This jutsu doesn't limit Shikamaru's movement, right?
He has one free hand, why didn't he just grab a kunai with it and start stabbing her?

>>280825494
Nta, I really enjoy, so I would suggest you to take with a grain if salt all excessive opinions.

>>280825578
He just wants her to pass out, I guess.

>>280820227
IIRC in the anime 2 nights have passed since they left the village, so I guess it's totally possible that Lee went after them in one day after his surgery was done.

>>280825055
Naruto was weekly chapters, Boruto is monthly. You're going to see a drastic difference between pacing and writing.

>>280825578
He used all his kunai when he was doing the thing with the summons.

>>280824110
Only the one panel of him saving Kimimaro from Kiri is canon.

>>280825228
Kimimaro can do this.
>>280825441
I multitab between here, discord and twatter because the dailies usually start while i'm leaving work, i'm honestly thinking about just not doing that after this recent paranoia event of wondering if someone actually saw it for a moment.

>>280825911
Wow the pacing and writing must be miles better in Boruto if the author has so much extra time to craft each chapter!

>>280819396
>situation's getting desperate
>cops another feel
Our man cannot be stopped.

>>280819566
>one blow
Even if he means "one hit to kill five clones," isn't that completely normal at this point? The clones are made of paper. Even Sasuke killed like a dozen of them in one hit.

>>280819678
Sah-sue-kay really is pretty cool.

>>280819952
>>280819995
DYNAMIC ENTRY!
I fucking love team-Guy ENTERs.

>>280820028
>instant Kimimaro respect
Gotta love it.
Thanks OP!

>>280825355
>kamehame isn't dangerous
wtf am I reading

>>280825482
No, it's correct. One thing is for Naruto to scream "I'll kill you!" over and over like a sperg. Having him successfully kill someone is a different story. The only people Naruto ever "killed" were the sand ninja turned into Itachi and a few paths of Pain. That is to say, reanimated corpses. Every other time he used lethal force, he failed to kill, like Kabuto in the sannin battle and Orochimaru at the Tenchi Bridge.
>Masashi Kishimoto revealed in a 2014 interview with Fuji TV that the main purpose of the massive use of the Edo Tensei Jutsu was to switch up a common trope that he was employing. He says that after the Pain Arc, Naruto never really had any intention to kill his opponents, preferring instead to reason with them and try dialogue. This was in line with Naruto's development as a character after Pain asks him to come up with his own answer to the violence of the shinobi world. Kishimoto said that this was also the spirit of shonen manga (at the time) and he had to go down this path as well. However, in his opinion, this quickly killed the mood of the story, so he came up with the brilliant idea of reintroducing revived ninja.
>>280825190
Naruto used Gamabunta against Gaara and didn't have that many chances to do so after that.
>vs itachi and kisame
He was in a hotel full of people and Kisame had messed with his chakra.
>vs kabuto and orochimaru
He tried and failed. He was still tired from training the rasengan and not in his best form.
>vs sasuke (hospital)
Unnecessary.
>vs kimimaro
It was a quick encounter. The anime probably embellished it like it often does, but in the manga Naruto just spammed a few shadow clones like he normally does before Rock Lee shows up and tells him to chase after Sasuke.
>vs sasuke
He wanted to beat Sasuke himself. It was a battle of egos above anything else.

>>280819610
I just realized that even if they brought Sasuke to Oro ASAP he'd still be stuck in the barrel when Oro needed to switch bodies.
>>280819995
ENTER Lee's last moment of relevancy. Still don't get why Kishi gave Lee all these big moments in Part 1 only to give him nothing in Part 2.

the sound 4+1

>>280826063
You have to draw more pages when you do monthly compared to weekly.

>>280819464
Lot of sexual tension between these two.

>>280819735
It's funny how Sasuke being this smug and later what he says to Naruto would have been hella awkward if Orochimaru wasn't forced to body snatch a random and conviniently having a 2 year cooldown.

>>280819566
this fruityboi can dance.

>>280819678
OW THE EDGE

>>280819735
it's so over for itachi and naruto... kneel

>>280819952
E N T E R... THE GOAT.

>>280820032
DETERMINATION

>>280819995
my goat.

>>280820676
this panel is so much better b&w

even funnier is that later on Gaara is going to say that Lee isn't even as good as he used to be, as if the scaling isn't already shot to hell

>>280819678
Sasukebros, the roids are working. Now we can fight Naruto's weakest fox form.

>>280820028
You think Kishi regretted having Naruto solo Gaara? Because he's making him look like a huge jobber so far

>>280820296
At that point just take a shower

The power-levels and speed fights are more all over the place in this arc than I remembered. Truly the precursor for Part II.

I wonder if Sasuke would've been able to uno reverse card Orochimaru's body transfer jutsu with his pure autistic rage at this point in the series.

>power levels
you faggots have never been in a real fight in your entire lives or seen one

>>280827365
what is this even supposed to mean kek

>>280827323
His rage wasn't even that great, it's only until after Danzo that he becomes legitimately unhinged

>>280827439
Power levels are bullshit. The idea that the ability to win a fight or conflict is entirely static is one of the most absurd concepts in fiction. The most famous military victory of all time, the battle of Cannae, was won by the smaller less experienced mishmash force. People weighing a hundred pounds less than their physical opponent have subdued them. A fucking gun closes any and all physical differences between two vastly different people.

Stop being fucking retarded.

>>280826752
I wasn't even aware of this until rereading this arc again, but this makes the whole thing completely retarded. Sasuke basically just got tricked into getting body snatched immediately, the only thing that prevented this was the sound 4's bad time schedule

>>280826752
>>280827730
It's almost like Sasuke is being a complete fucking idiot and is throwing his life away

>>280827678
>Kishi's brain on Shikawank

>>280827730
>>280827764
>and Itachi "good brother" Uchiha has zero backup plan for this

>>280827943
he kind of did if you account for the tokutsu blade
>>280827919
none of us would complain if he won his fights in an intelligent way instead of just stalling until hidan

>>280819261
CUTEnata.

>>280821841
>How the fuck is a weakned Lee this strong still? He was supposed to be powercrept like hell.
In retrospect I think the problem comes from Kishi blowing his load and having Naruto in the red eyes state and not really thinking about the implications there

>>280819261
ENTERnata.
>>280820028
Thanks, OP.

>>280819865
There is no Z in Dragon Ball.

>>280821630
>bullshit metal skin armor
We don't know how that works. It's strong enough to block the soft strikes by Neji, but it might not be enough to block real taijutsu. It'd still probably be comparable to something like Gaara's sand overall, ie. it can be broken, outsped and probably outlasted.
>super strength?
Taijutsu sucks because it's countered by... more taijutsu? I don't think so, no.

>>280826712
featuring. Kimimaro

>>280826712
More like the Sound 1+4

>>280826614
>Still don't get why Kishi gave Lee all these big moments in Part 1 only to give him nothing in Part 2.
Same can be said about other characters. Neji was hyped up since the Chuunin Exams and had one of the best fights in the manga against Kidomaru. Kiba and Choji looked like he could go somewhere after the final arc of Part 1. We have Sakura going "enough is enough" for the 2nd or 3rd time, and there are plenty of jonin with potential too. Not to mention the rest of Konoha 12.
But instead we get what we got in Part 2 and you're no longer important if you don't have a retcon nuke beast inside of you or a sharingan.

>>280827678
people fight each other with their bodies here.

I miss her bros...

>>280828018
That blade would just Suck Sasuke along side Orochimaru and that's assuming he would be even alive by the time they meet again.

did sasukefag get board-banned from /a/?
saw him shitting up a thread on /v/ just now

>>280829196
I can't wait for her to do something in 250 chapters!

>>280829230
Possibly
also lol

Yawn. When are any of these fights gonna reach or surpass the standards of Neji vs. Kidomaru set?

>>280825055
It's not canon, anyway. It's Ikemoto's story and the art is his too. I can safely ignore it.

>>280826747
Wrong.

>>280830042
>It's not canon, anyway.
Where is this said? And no, that "new" (actually old) interview where Kishimoto is happy for him does not confirm shit.

>>280827678
Okay, and?
Fiction does literal powerlevels, so reading something that does that leads to needing to del with the topic, regardless of if it's realistic.

>>280830074
A monthly Boruto chapter has more pages than a weekly Naruto chapter.

>>280829230
I was in one of those /v/ threads, He said he's purposefully leaving the dailies alone for now "because he has reasons", whatever the hell that means
probably plotting something pathetic like that temari drawing

>>280830130
oh my fucking god
the story opens with naruto beating the shit out of a chunin as a failed academy student

>>280830133
Yes, and comes out about 4 times less often.
The latest chapter had 44 pages.
How many does a weekly manga have, hm?

>>280830167
I'm talking about individuals chapters. I have no idea why you're trying to move the goalposts here.

>>280830222
What an absolutely retarded comparison to make then.
Also maybe work on your phrasing in the future, because >>280826747 does not make any kind of such qualifiers.

lol
lmao

>>280830112
Why was there a recent thread about it then? Well, doesn't change that he's essentially given all reigns to Ikemoto. Nothing tells me it's canon and I can live with that.

>>280830264
>Still moving the goalposts
Just admit you made a retarded statement and don't understand the difference between weekly and monthly.

>>280829764
Tayuya's fight sort of did in a different way. Keep in mind Neji hard counters Kidomaru because of his eyes but Shika vs Tay isn't like that

>>280830313
This is an old interview and it was only a small part of it without the context. You are a complete and utter retard trying to sell it as "new" and Kishimoto saying it's non-canon when NONE of that is true.

>>280830144
So you're going to try to claim that Mizuki is stronger than Naruto?
And in fact, I guess since ranks must be powerlevels (They're not), Shikamaru is stronger than Naruto, Sasuke, Neji etc.
This does not disprove the presence of powerlevels by any means.

>>280830322
The difference between a weekly and a monthly in this case is that you make less pages per month when working monthly, yes.

>>280830355
this is the problem with you fucking morons
you can't decide on what powerlevels even are

>>280830311
What a delusional narcissist.

>>280830378
I'm talking about INDIVIDUAL chapters, retard. Why aren't you unable to understand this? Can you read?

meanwhile in Konohagakure...

>>280830424
one grown chunin underachiever had the wildest threesome with two noobie hebes last night

>>280830442
God, that sounds like heaven.

>>280830418
Which is a completely meaningless point to make, as I already said.
Yeah, you have more pages in a single chapter. And?

>>280830504
Doubling down instead of admitting defeat isn't gonna suddenly make the dumb statement you made right.

>>280819713
Don't disrespect Tayuya's kekkei genkai

>>280830547
Okay, so you have no argument whatsoever, you just want to go in circles, got it.

>>280819396
>>280819438
SHEER
WILLPOWER

>>280822661
No, not really.

>>280824443
The other one?

>>280830136
Stop talking up that faggot like he didn't get his ass whooped and mocked from his many failed attempts to derail and "destroy" these threads and fleed while still astroturfing as his personas to still cause a ruckus or downplat himself. We're here to discuss the chapters and the series, not some attention whore.

>>280819164
My wife volume finally

>>280830577
My exact feelings towards your "argument". So nice projection I guess?

>>280830555
>555
Guys...

>>280830707
you cant tell me what i can or cant talk about bud

>>280819296
>>280819332
>>280819360
>>280819396
>>280819438
>>280819464

Equivalent from the anime. One thing I don't get is Tayuya's position. In some scenes, she looks like she's more to Shikamaru's side. In others, she looks like she's in front of him. Like the part where her horns elongate, it looks like she's resting her head on Shikamaru's shoulder (her hair is literally touching his collar and horns touching his forehead).

>>280830981
Manga Tayuya's design and expressions were way cuter than the anime version.

>>280819952
ENTER

>>280830696
The obsessed faggot that's been trying to get people to care about his twatter-tier drama

>>280827730
>the only thing that prevented this was the sound 4's bad time schedule
Also Sasuke dicking about for two weeks straight mulling over his decision in such a blatant way that even Sakura knew to keep an eye on the exit.

>>280831673
And is he associated with a specific character, or just whatever drama you're talking about that I haven't been paying attention to?

>>280819396
She's getting hornier.

>>280827943
Itachi being the mastermind super good guy from the start means he's either a living Laplace's demon or an absolute imbecile.

>>280819610
Straightbros explain this.

>>280827117
Yeah Kishi really gave no fucks at this point. From the way Lee gets glazed in this upcoming fight you wonder how the hell he was meant to be seen as weaker than Neji.

>>280831768
>two weeks straight
Didn't he defect the very same night? I doubt the Sound 4 and Orochimaru would have the patience.

You really have the hand it to Choji and Neji. They were the only members of the rescue team to defeat their opponents.

>>280820023
Probably because of this.

>>280832025
The moon's phase changed from full to one of the crescent variants. That doesn't happen in a few hours. Also Sakura.

>>280819995
>>280820023
>>280832053
>>280820405
>>280822872
>>280823033
碧い means both blue and green.

>>280832025
>>280832111
So the Sound Four were just camping around in Konoha while they were waiting for him? What the fuck is this security.

>>280832111
kek it sounds even stupidier no one but her thought to watch over Sasuke all that time then. Konoha is shit.

>>280832191
>no one but her
Sasuke has no relationships with anyone outside of Team 7 in Konoha. In fact going by the manga alone a majority of these characters only have a handful of people they can call a friend or even just an acquaintance. The one net positive of the gross amounts of anime filler back then was having these characters actually interact with each other.

>>280831921
so am i

How the hell did Lee even know where to find Naruto? Are we supposed to just assume he followed the arrows they left behind for Chouji? Did he have any reaction at all to running past his and Neji's half dead bodies? How can he cover that much distance in like 15 minutes fresh out of spinal surgery when it took the Sound 4 half a day?

>>280832968
He built differently.
Though, yeah, I said it last week or so but
>between the time the genins left Lee went to surgery, it was finished, he woke up from it, found the path all they all went through, didn't help Choji, Neji, Kiba or Shika, and sprinted all the way over to help Naruto in what can quite literally only be a half a day at most.
There's genuinely just no way to reasonably explain it aside from "just don't think about it".

>>280832968
>How the hell did Lee even know where to find Naruto?
Presumably most shinobi are trained in basic tracking, which shouldn't be too hard given how fresh the trail was. Plus having a general idea of the direction to go since Sasuke was almost certainly heading for Sound. As for the rest, Kishi didn't think that hard.

>>280832968
>How the hell did Lee even know where to find Naruto?
He just ran everywhere really fast until he found them.

>>280832968
Lee has no ninjutsu because he's actually the world's strongest sensor and all his chakra goes toward that

>>280833887
He could've won the 1v1 with a Madara clone. WITH Susanoo.

>>280824221
>dude what if tayuya lost her personality and became a boring bitch like gaara, isn't that so epic?

>>280827678
Yes, wich is based on how, in real life, no person can nuke cities, create literal thousands of soldiers on the spot or defeat you with a glance, in fiction there are people so powerful gaps can't be closed simply with gut and effort, and Lee doesn't use any strategy worth mentioning, just like Kimimaro doesn't use enough strategy to jistify him soloing in base the sound 4 and not instantly annihilating Lee. The only justification is that at least Lee is quick to use the potion punch

>>280828972
>Neji
He also had the entire Hyuga plotline, wich not only Naruto promised to solve but tied into his love interest, a Hyuga arc to give him and Hinata more space would have been great.

>>280830313
>Why was there a recent thread about it then
Some shitposter (wonder who) recently discovered it and posted a single line out of context, despite the same interview telling us Kishi is the scriptwriter, makes the outline and check every chapter.

>>280827764
the thing is it would be more interesting if this deal with the devil was actually legit and he accepted to become a vessel in a couple of years in exchange for power to beat his brother. instead this outcome was just a coincidence because of a time delay by a couple of hours. otherwise Sasuke would have shown up at the hideout and Orochimaru would have effectively killed him

>>280831768
>>280832111
What kind of mission was Kakshi doing that kept him for two weeks while knowing Sasuke was in danger? Why, even if in periods when you don't have enough jonin, do you keep teachers from their students for weeks, especially if those students are targeted by a dangerous terrorist.

>>280819995
>>280819952
ENTER

>>280821731
Lee himself says later that he’s not at his best.
Also Lee kept on training during this time, he didn’t just lie in bed.
Naruto is just giga worthless this arc, he’s basically jobbed to every enemy so far

>>280835017
The arc would pretty much go the same way if Naruto wasn't even present.

>>280822754
don't you remember his fight against Danzo?

>>280835068
Not true, Sauce wouldn’t have unlocked the 3rd Tomoe yet

>>280835132
That anon said it's not the last time.

Are we ready to admit this arc sucks dick and the Tsunade one was better?

>>280835167
The first two fights were good. The rest is a mess.

>>280830981
We should have gotten CM2 Tayuya just beating up Shikamaru with her obviously superior STR here

>>280835188
The second fight, you mean. Choji's fight is worse than Shikamaru's.

>>280835188
Even the Neji fight was clunky and weird since Neji just stood around for all of it

>>280835219
Neji is low int

>>280835237
Well, if it wasn’t for Kido’s plot armor Neji would have left the fight without a scratch.

>>280835245
If we’re removing plot armour Neji would have been dead

>>280835264
I mean, the armor just appeared from thin air after the attack had happened. Now that’s crazy.

>>280835284
gaara parallel

>>280821221
to be fair, the other fights all happened in an extremely thick forest while Naruto's fight against Kimimaro takes place in a wide open field with a large crowd of shadow clones. I don't blame him for overlooking Neji and Choji

>>280835167
Tsunade's arc was a snoozefest.

>>280835445
Better written and more interesting than this mess of an arc with the worst 1v1s I've seen in a while

Tsunade arc is slow? This arc's pacing is all over the place.

>>280835457
This arc would drag on WAY too long if Kishi gave attention to every single fight.

>>280835457
Tsunade's arc is not important in the next 500 chapters. meanwhile you can't skip this arc and read the next 500 chapters

>>280835602
Tsunade gave Konoha a Hokage retard
Even without that, all you're describing are long lasting consequences

>>280835616
>Tsunade gave Konoha a Hokage retard
that never does anything

>>280835167
I'm really beginning to reassess the sasuke-retrieval-arc, yeah. It consists of a ton of mini-stories shuffled together that don't really form a coherent whole in the end. It feels like kishimoto was scared of immediate cancellation or something, so he threw in every side-character-development he had ever planned so he could go out without any regrets in the end. And then the series went on for hundreds of more chapters.

>>280835631
https://www.jajanken.net/en/sakuhins/QvL0BVl0NV
We can pretty reasonably say that he was not in any kind of danger of cancellation from this.
I think it's more a matter of him knowing he was going to do the timeskip, so he wanted to wrap everything up before that so the second half can then have its own stories. Maybe with the same characters, maybe not.
That, or editors telling him to wrap them up to focus on the real important characters. That feels weird though.

>>280835631
More like Kishimoto got bored and impatient and wanted to get to the Naruto vs. Sasuke action and then segway to the timeskip.

The SRA should have been the Konoha genin vs the sound 4 in a team battle.
Or if you have to split them up have it be 2vs1 so we can get some interesting duo’s fighting the sound. Oh and obviously don’t drag or cut away from the fights.

>>280835694
I see, thank you very much.

>>280835219
At first he was blocked by Kidomaru's spider and his web, and later he was constantly under assault and Kido was hiding.

>>280830981
Couldn't she just bash her skull into Shikamaru's?

>>280834476
>What kind of mission was Kakshi doing that kept him for two weeks while knowing Sasuke was in danger?
An unexplained S ranked mission. As for danger when he left the main threat was Naruto and Sasuke getting in another fight that gets out of hand but everyone had to do double time with how half of Konoha's fodder died

>>280835154
He could unlock it off-screen during the timeskip.

>>280836550
He could cover the entire 50m distance while Kido was falling lol. He could have gotten out of there or chased or done anything. Standing around was retarded given that speed feat. None of that made any sense

>>280837200
That only works if you don't believe Kidomaru to be similarly fast, wich is a weird assumption.

>>280837244
He would reveal himself. This whole things make zero sense you couldn't visualize it

>>280837244
Kidomaru probably can't shoot as good while running.

It’s Sasuke’s birthday. Say something nice about him.

>>280827678
I've always found powerscaling kinda pointless too. But it's tolerable when it's all self-contained/within 1 series.
When people do powerscaling with characters from completely different series, it reaches another level of retarded and pointless

>>280838553
Took way too long, but you turned out okay for an Uchiha.

>>280835630
You idiots' definition of doing things amounts to "beating main villains." It's such a vapid way of looking at a story.

>>280830387
To me, power levels are how strong a character is supposed to be in the confines of the world they're in in relation to everyone else. Established feats, rank, claims of strength by themselves or other characters, etc are how most go about gauging how strong a specific character is supposed to be.

>>280840317
How does that account for matchups though? Power levels always seem to be "A>B, B>C, so A>C" when in a lot of systems that just isn't the case.

>>280835167
I said it before but my main problem with the Tsunade arc is that it felt like Kishi had some interesting ideas and a chance to explore more of the world outside the hidden villages, but then he quickly hit writer's block and padded shit out with constant Dan/Nawaki flashbacks, and then had Orochimaru and Kabuto literally flee like mustache-twirling jackasses
Though either way the two arcs are much closer in quality than I remembered

>>280840601
Fair criticism, I think the arc delivers some good bits of tourism but it would have been better to have even more.

>>280840423
It, well, depends on the match-up and supposed strength of whatever characters you're putting against each other, as well as the person doing the scaling. Like, say there's a kage that fights heavily with fire-based jutsu and sets himself on fire to boost his taijutsu versus a chunnin who's a wiz with water jutsu but isn't otherwise exceptional. The kage SHOULD still trounce the water guy with little issue, even with the type disadvantage, because by in-universe ranking he should be a huge threat even without his fire stuff.
Make the water chunnin into a water kage, though, and that's when the match-ups start mattering; between two otherwise generally equal opponents with specific skill sets.

It's really a super case-by-case thing, and ultimately depends on how whoever is doing the scaling wants to prioritize on who's stronger.

>>280840423
People love to say that Naruto's power system is diverse enough for this to not he like DB but i can't think of many examples of a very weak character actually pulling off a victory due to having a good match up that doesn't involve Kishimoto just adding bullshit into the mix.

>>280840752
The entire power system Kishimoto made is full of holes and inconsistencies anyway. Don't take a series for kids too seriously, even though it's fun to discuss.

>>280840640
This is where, to me, things fall apart. "Kage-level" and "chuunin-level" are just terms that aggregate performance and so the details of the matchups are averaged out, leading to poor understanding of specific dynamics. Like Shino is "chuunin level" but would wipe a bunch of jounin based solely on what we know of his abilities.

>>280839142
>I've always found powerscaling kinda pointless too. But it's tolerable when it's all self-contained/within 1 series.
It's basically the difference between autistic battleboarding nonsense where dudes try to argue that their C-list character is actually multiversal++++ based entirely on huffing as much cocaine as possible, and making a setting with a consistent narrative and at least semi-plausibly feels like it could coherently exist.
And honestly the issue isn't really when a character makes a huge leap in power over a short time so much as when it seems like characters are genuinely as strong (or weak) as they need to be in a moment-to-moment basis without any explanation, until you hit Dragon Ball Super levels of genuine narrative randomness.

>>280840802
There's no "chuunin" level if we're being honest, named characters will fucking SLAY jonins despite being genins if the plot calls for it

>>280830981
I am just going with the interpretation Tayuya wants to breed with Shikamaru because he's a violent misogynistic teen pushing her in without all that fancy jutsu. She wants to violently propagate but she's confused why he's fighting for Sasuke. The sound four are just professionals who kill for fun to alleviate boredom. Sure Kidomaru larps for fun, Sakon fights for thrills but I just don't see Tayuya violently snapping and ripping to shreds

>>280838553
He really matured, he even became a mentor.

>>280840802
Nta but that's extremely inconsistent, some of the sound 4 should reasonably destroy jonins, by what we saw of their powersets, but all together they struggled against 2 whil going CM2

>>280819610
tayuya fumes

>>280840802
Basically, though, I blame that mostly to Kishi making it hard to take the ninja rankings seriously with the shit he makes his characters do. Gaara has gone through at least a dozen Suna jonin but the first person to ever make him bleed was a genin from Kohana that can't even do ninjutsu?

>>280840752
Gaara doesn't do power levels. He murdered grass ninjas cause they told him to job,but the manga does a good idea of showing how people wanted to murder Neji if he won cause he was too schizo

>>280840601
>constant Dan/Nawaki flashbacks
there really wasnt much of that in the manga

Also, powerlevels are just fucked in inherently what with Kishimoto deciding both Itachi and Kakashi were ANBU before they even hit double digits in age. I don't give a shit how good their jutsu is, someone barely 4 foot tall with the body strength of a eight-year-old isn't a fucking jounin, dawg.

>>280841020
Our hero Genma solos the sound 4 all at once and in cm2 state

>>280841115
Honestly it was just a circumstantial thing. Sasuke happened to catch Gaara in the middle of a mental breakdown when he was making no effort to fight back. If Gaara had been stable he would have squished Sasuke like a bug in that fight. The chidori was telegraphed five years in advance and required Sasuke to run across the whole arena in a straight line and could only hit Gaara because he was doing literally nothing. He could have used sand clones or flown into the air or blocked Sasuke's path or grabbed at him with sand. Presumably none of the sand ninja caught him in a state like that.

>>280841115
Shonen syndrome of making everything high stakes while also not thinking about whether or not the implications if it will hold up or make sense as the story progresses.

>>280841462
I was talking about Lee. Not a single Sand ninja could match the speed of an admittedly very fast genin with no special modifiers beyond never skipping leg day?

>>280841306
Given how weak we've seen the ANBU are, it's not about strength.

>>280841512
Oh right. Lee didn't actually make Gaara bleed, Sasuke was first. But it does seem like everyone sucks at taijutsu outside the Leaf except the black guys.

>>280841207
Manga Tsunade is clearly a hag, but good her and Shizune are high test.

>>280841306
>someone barely 4 foot tall with the body strength of a eight-year-old isn't a fucking jounin
You're right. He's kage-level

>>280841518
But it is supposed to be about strength with the ANBU. They're Kohana's elite force beyond even regular jonin, they were Hiruzen's back-up against Orochimaru(lol). It's just that Kishi exclusively uses them as a metric to show you how strong a character really is when they kill a dozen of them(Kabuto).

>>280841590
Nah he does, it's just Gaara wasn't in the middle of his demon jutsu so he didn't go full sicko mode.

>>280840752
Shikamaru vs. Hidan I think would be the best example, regular chuunin beats an Akatsuki member using wits and a good matchup

What do you even expect?

Kishimoto pulled a "I'm 10x stronger now!" "Well, I'm 100x stronger now!" a few chapters ago.

>>280841618
Kek

>>280841708
Except ir wasn't an actual good matchup and Shikamaru bullshitted his way to victory anyway.

>>280841708
To be fair, Hidan is a moron and easily the weakest Akatsuki member outside maybe Zetsu. If a chunin could be any of them, it's him

>>280841773
Honestly if Shikamaru brought Kiba with him they'd destroy Hidan.

What is Hidan supposed to do? He doesn't even have his scythe with him. He has a pointy stick. What if he has one or two guys bumrushing him? How does he draw his gay circle? They can just beat him up and tie him up.

>>280841708
>>280841818
>outside maybe Zetsu
Zetsu vs Madara is teh biigest example of underdog outwitting and defeating a godling
More seriously Zetsu has many tricks, like the chakra absorption and possession.

>>280840802
because power levels are bullshit

>>280841677
But were jonins ever about strength? From what I remember, you got to chunin by demonstrating leadership, and jonin by some kind of special selection, presumably if you showed consistent success with your missions. Strength definitely helps with that, but I don't think it's ever been an actual factor.

>>280841833
The most OP team of the rookies is Naruto, Shikamaru, and Hinata.
>Naruto makes clones that surround the target
>Shikamaru uses clones' shadows to extend his jutsu
>Hinata gentle fists the target (Shikamaru doesn't receive the damage because the attacks don't move the enemy much)
Honestly the fact that the first two steps were never done is a huge oversight.

>>280841773
If we're thinking one v one shikamaru is a hard counter to hidan. Kakuzu carries him hard.
>>280841833
His gf would have also trivialized the fight, just blow hidan out of the circle and nuke him with the weasel

>>280842006
Yes? Zabuza vs Kakashi was an example of what jonin are like. They were even stronger than that though, considering both tried their hands at Kage

>>280842006
We genuinely have no idea. Jonins are allowed on A and S rank missions which means they have to be on the stronger side since those are the only jobs in which fighting against high-level combatants is expected. The presence of the Demon Brothers in the Land of Waves arc alone was apparently too much for it to still be considered a D/C rank mission which the job originally was.

>>280842109
STOP thinking like a stupid wizard for a moment
STOP with the dumb ninjutsu stuff

Hidan is just some 40 year old guy, you just have to tie him up
jump him like Sasukefag jumps lone women on the street with his crew

>>280841761
>watch normalfag content about Naruto on Youtube
>see people shit on the Neji vs Kidomaru fight being bad while praising Choji and Jirobo's dick waving contest because "DUHH LOOK AT HOW HE STOPPED HIS PUNCH WITH HIS HAND, THATS AURA!!!"
This shit really makes me cringe. I'm glad to see that this daily actually gave Kidomaru some love.

>>280842167
oh yeah
genin sasuke was taking down chunin too

>>280842006
It's never specified, the most we knoe is that being a chunin ALSO requires leasership abilities, but the story obviously wants you to believe ranks matter for power, so when people defeat chunins and jonins you feel like they just did something awesome, rather than beating nameless fodders.

>>280842013
Honestly this would also be a way more endearing protagonist trio than team 7

>>280842175
>choji had a pill that completely mogged years of orochimaru forbidden jutsu research

>>280842013
>>280842245
Shill-fic anon...

>>280842262
Shut the fuck up.

>>280842245
Naruto + Hinata + any male rookie would be a more endearing trio, change my mind.

>9.
OP 3, Kamishimi whatever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwJEFzsqNoY
ear bleeding voice. music is ok but not much compared to naruto standar. the op itself is fine, but niche. it is about gaara and naruto, so if you care about them...
>8 .
OP... fuck it's hard, probably N°4: GO!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjBTNbEXbAA
it is good, very very good actualy, why this low? dunno dont complicate me. it's damm iconic and catchy and filled with charisma - then why low?? idk, maybe the fact that it's humor, or "weird" in the sense is the most 2000s opening ever, in all senses, that includes internet and memes. that's why it's this low, because as great as it is, it feels weird
>7.. this is where it gets complicated, probaly OP 6, No boy no cry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO2z86PoQRY
I fucking love it honestly, one of my top tops musically speaking, it's one op I hardly skip. ok so it's kinda lousy, but the message is very cool, it feels like a "don't give, get up and kick asses!" message, which is very fitting. I put it this low because it's hard and something had to be 7th
>6. OP 7, Satellite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY15k20Hqq0
fucking emotinal, it's one opening that kicks you in the balls if you lower your guard. the chorus is beautiful, and the imagery is wholesome. the frame with the full gang under the stars, that's legendary-tier, peak kino
>5. OP 8. Re:member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB2g22359Fg
I love this song, or atleast I loved it as a kid. yes, a kid, I thuoght this song was earlier, because it damm sounds fitting as an earlier opening, it's that great, also I have no idea why I remember it this much. it's a little similar to OP 2, great song, great to sing along, the part of the chorus where they all show their powers, that is peak cinema. when I rewatched recently, I had headphones, and FUCK it's sounded amazing! I didn't have this experience as a kid 15 years ago. iit's 10/10

>>280842262
the teams remained the same in that
what are you talking about?

>>280842247
Tbf choji's clan has probably been perfecting those pills for longer than orochimaru's been alive.
Plus, orochimaru is constantly multitasking on 30 fucked up experiments instead of focusing on a single area

>>280842348
>4. OP 9, Yura yura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m8kR0FQ7Wk
k.i.n.o., gorgeous in all ways, it feels like a very mature op, animation is 11/10, always liked it as a kid. the instruments, the drums, the singing! gorgeous, it has a lot of soul. also my favourite part is the girls scene, they all so cute
>3. OP 1, ROCKS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t__wczfpRI
people shit on this one, FUCK THEM, this is beyond beautiful! it's an 80s-like rock song, this one is very nostalgic, it kicks where it really hurts, it's almost sad, well the very definition of nostalgia. plus the fighting animation is smooth. it's a simple but powerful op with 11/10 shots, every second

,,,you know this is where it really gets compliated, OP 2 and OP 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRn99oN1p_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkN--nO5G1g
one is THE naruto song, and the other is naruto art in its maximum splendor, its peak
don't make me choose
logically Haruka kanata should be #1 as peak iconic and memorable opening
BUT Rhapsody of Youth is rhapsody of youth, the title alone speaks by itself
so fuck it

>>280842424
also forgot to mention but ROCKS was my fav as a kid

>>280841677
That was later revealed to be just sand.

>>280842348
>>280842424
>>280842506
would love to rank endings, I've never done that so that's where it'll get fun
I care about music after all

>>280842006
>But were jonins ever about strength?
The existence of Tokubetsu implies so.

>>280842348
>>280842424
>No Boy No Cry at 7
>Haruka not at 1
If you posted this a decade ago, you'd be killed.

>>280842013
>>280842245
>>280842262
>>280842328
This is literally just true potential

>>280842718
Don't care, never read it, never will

>>280842718
didnt that one shikamaru wank fic also do it?

>>280842691
to my surprise I found lot of people who don't like no boy no cry aswell
>"NOO ITS NOISY AND AND IT HURTS MY FEELINGS!!! >.<"
fuck these crystal fucks, it really is similar to ROCKS: actual real rock songs that filters otaku anisong casual shits

>>280842718
I can't bring myself to finish true potential because the storytime made me hate Shikamaru (a character i had no strong feelings for beforehand)

>>280842816
>because the storytime made me hate Shikamaru
When did that start? I used to hate Shika back when I read the manga in highschool, the storytime just helped reaffirm that.

>>280842852
It was in 2020, honestly I was kinda of a poser Narutofag before giving the manga a try with that dump.

>>280842789
>NOO ITS NOISY
Why the hell those "people" listen to Openings without turning up the volume?

aaaaiiiieeeeeee

>>280843054
I STILL don't know what the fuck the context for this is.

If SRA came out today Shikamaru would also gets racist allegations, since Tayuya is basically just a brown girl with horns and Shika basically said she's not female anymore.

>>280843114
Jobbing to Hidan's ritual in their first encounter.

>>280843114
>Circles
Something to do with hidan maybe?

>>280827243
>solo Gaara
he needed Gamabunta and Sasuke and Sakura weakening him earlier in the fight, albeit barely.

>>280843001
noisy as the genre, the punk. me and my brother always jokingly called the "the japanese drunk man song"
they shit on ROCKS singing too
my friend literally says "I WANT NINJAS I WANT ACTION WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT"
they say it doesnt fit naruto

fuck these cunts, what they want is their shitty overstimulated samey anisong crap #322 that they can meme along

>>280842424
HOLY FUARRRRRRK

>>280843223
What did Sakura do to Gaara?

>>280842632
...or maybe not, idk, some of them I can't quite remember
btw I'm watching shippuden, and the conclusion so far at itachi arc
shippuden endings >>> openings

>>280843361
considering it's PTS Sakura I definitely remembered it wrong. Knowing that character I doubt she landed a single hit on him before getting coffin'd.

Say you had no prior knowledge of where the story was going to go after the end of part 1. Who would you think is the worst character in the story so far out of everyone introduced?

>>280843361
Hurt his ears by crying.

>>280842424
>haruka kanata
I don't understand why people like it that much. It's an average OP at best.

>>280843353
the whole opening felt like a fever dream to as a kid. I legit didn't like it, it weirded me out. it was soooo mature and different, it was too much to my brain

>>280842424
rocks is my favorite. shit just vibes. I'm mad it didn't play at the end of the shippuden anime. but there's plenty wrong with the end of the shippuden anime.

The only good thing about Boruto is that Shikamaru doesn't get wanked and gets clowned on.

>>280819678
>eat tren, clen hard, test your limits, anavar gave up

>>280843416
I dislike Kimimaro, but he's relatively innocous, a real bad character should be someone who doesn't exist for the length of a fight. I'm not sure who is actually the worst one with this standard, because most of the flat characters exist for really little.
Maybe Jiraya.

>>280843431
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>280843416
A coin toss between Choji and Sakura.

>>280843575
Actually, add Shikamaru in there as well.

>>280843431
Chunin exams craze, it was also the first OP to not be changed when localized and the one most of the world were more exposed to (blame Cartoon Network always airing Chunin exams eps for some reason).

>>280842006
>you got to chunin by demonstrating leadership
Even worse is that all this probably depends on the village too.
We know this is the requirement for Konoha and nothing else.

>>280843431
>>280843564
serious answer

opening to the best memorable arc
peak classic
its frames and shots were everywhere - THAT was naruto
cool introductino of the characters

personally, and I rejoice it every time I listen to it: the voice
the voice is just that good. it theorically has rage, adrenalin, but the voice doesnt fall in cliche screaming, but calmed screaming. calm anger
the voice is what does it to me, it's calmed but rockish at the same time. it's perfectly on tune

also I forgot, but I love the last 3 full versions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoEht4B1zWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9cGGSzJOlw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8TClXpFbC4

these full versions were in my head for ages. the solos the added parts the everything. I remember I loved playing Haruka Kanata bridge when I first got my guitar. it's just that great

>>280843444
demonic sakura creeped me out

>>280843850
they all so tiny :3
especially tenten :3

>>280843987
Wait nvm it's 3, forgot Go came before rhapsody of youth.

>>280843892
ninja dependents you might say

God damn, Ino always looks so amazing no matter which age or time period.

>>280844125
Lying Sai...

>>280843416
Hinata is pointless beyond her fight with Neji. Her only contribution to the story is serving as motivation for Naruto's fight against her cousin. Her potential as a Hyuga is not explored, we don't see her in any missions, and her dynamics with the other characters are bland or non-existent.
Her role in the manga is being Naruto's cheerleader. But even then, she fails at that. It felt a lot more rewarding whenever you got to see even the smallest dialogues where other characters like Lee and Ino acknowledge Naruto and slowly start to show him more respect.

>>280843804
these notes alones
https://files.catbox.moe/79pctx.mp3
they're everything

>>280844295
no

>>280844295
Kenchi...

>>280844295
In the very next panel Ino doubts Naruto has any chance against Neji.

>>280843987
Part 1 filler was kino and I'm sick of pretending otherwise. Even when the plot wasn't good, it felt nice to see the Konoha 12 (or 11) fucking around with different team compositions and side characters getting a little more screen time. Better than most canon material post-timeskip at least.

>>280844016
SHONEN YOOOOOOO

>>280843892
>>280844125
our irrelevant heroines!

>the village shunned you, just like they did me, the lone uchiha survivor
>they totally didn't think I was a cool badass and glaze me at every turn

>>280844490
The strongest genin in the Leaf winning was the logical outcome. Not even the jonin who knew about the Nine Tails imagined Naruto could stand a chance. And it's his colleagues slowly getting to see that he's the real deal that feels satisfying. Ino and the Chuunin think it's an impossible matchup, Kiba has one line of dialogue saying otherwise, everyone is surprised at the end.

>>280844295
>>280844859
The way Narutofags simultaneously romantize being loved before fame and getting respect bonds through achievements needs to be studied.

>>280845086
hello orphan

>>280845121
How is orphan behaviour relevant here, Sakura?

tried a quick one
https://files.catbox.moe/79pctx.mp3
brother got me distracted >: and i forgot how it ended lol

>>280845413
wrong lol
https://files.catbox.moe/fa1olu.mp3

>>280845086
I really don't get your point. "Getting respect bonds through achievements" was always a theme, as Naruto starts as a lonely kid who wants to be Hokage so that people will like him. Breaking expectations and surprising people also has to be a thing in the story because everyone thinks he's a loser at the start. Even people like Shikamaru or Choji who never had any issues with Naruto thought he was just a useless bum, and they had every reason to believe so. So, yeah. He has to prove himself.
But it isn't like people only started liking him because he was strong either. From Zabuza to Gaara to Tsunade, you also see Naruto win people over because he's a decent guy despite his flaws. Other than with Hinata, "I liked you before you were cool" is never a thing in the manga and it's not like Naruto would ever care about that. The main character expands his friends circle as the story goes, and people start seeing he is also pretty good at what he does. I don't know what's there to be studied in this, it's a very simple plot.

>>280846375
I still don't get why he was treated like shit for so long. Surely the Fourth would've set up precautions so the unwilling vessel child would not be treated as a pariah, but as someone who helped the Fourth keep the village safe from a terrible beast.

>>280846375
Just because it's a main plot in the story doesn't mean anyone and anything who doesn't follow it is somehow lesser or whatever.

>>280846827
Also, that "needs to be studied" was just hyperbole for shitposting sake.

>>280846997
Meant for >>280846881

>>280846375
>Other than with Hinata, "I liked you before you were cool" is never a thing in the manga and it's not like Naruto would ever care about that.
But Kishimoto does ironically enough, like, that's genuinely a main reason he admittedly didn't have NaruSaku happen.

Technically speaking Hinata also started to respect Naruto because he proved he had guts, we just didn't see it happening like with the others, she's not that different.

>>280842816
That storytime completely destroyed Shikamaru's rep on /a/. Kek.

>>280847566
CIRCLES
CIRCLEEEEEEEEES

>>280847528
The difference is the degree of insight. Hinata saw through Naruto's facade, others didn't. Hinata saw he had inner strength, others didn't.

>>280847566
And it was absolutely deserved.

>>280843525
Shikamaru in Boruto is just how Shikamaru is without hype men and forced plot armor to make his "genius" schemes work.

Reminder that Kishimoto said he wouldn't date any of his female characters because he'd feel weird but did say he'd date Shikamaru because he's smart and seems like he'd have a good future.

>>280819952
I like to imagine Lee just ran past the dying Neji without even stopping. He saw Neji gasping for air, bleeding out from the gaping holes in his torso, and went "Oh no! Naruto and the others must be in trouble!"

Thin Chouji? Didn't recognize him. Kiba? Didn't see him down the ravine. And Shikamaru was clearly sharing an intimate moment with Tayuya so Lee just blushed and snuck past them.

>>280819952
DYNAMIC ENTER

>>280847875
Lee making it so fast is retarded, but now that I think about it, how the fuck do the Sand Trio get here so fast too?

>>280846827
I think Naruto being treated like shit was a bit overstated by the anime. The adaptation makes the typical day in Naruto's life was
>wake up
>brush your teeth with water because Konoha welfare isn't enough to buy toothpaste
>go outside
>get beat up by strangers
>old lady calls me a foxniggers unprompted
>go home feeling sad
>someone broke into my house and came in my ramen
>start to cry
>my neighbour overhears me and shouts "kys fag"
When in the manga Kishimoto just vaguely talks about Naruto being lonely. All we know is that he'd get looks from older people and some would tell their kids not to be around him, which is bad but not absurd and comically abusive like in the anime. He was also a delinquent so it made sense that people didn't want him around.

>>280848115
They rode a sandworm

I missed the thread but this is low key the cutest Tayuya panel, just grinning and brandishing her toy saying how cool it is. In fact she thinks it's so cool she refuses to carry other weapons and openly brags about it.

It's Tayuya taking a brief break from professional villainy to be fourteen.

>>280848393
>other tools
>single use, single purpose
>the fuarking flute
>can play music, control cool ogres, and be used as a regular melee weapon
She has every right to be proud of it.

>>280847875
>>280848115
Actually, Lee not meeting any of the others makes him getting there so fast more believable. He just took a different route and got lucky, while the Sound Four presumably took a longer, more winding route to try and lose their pursuit.

>>280842006
Powerlevels are whatever Kishi feels like. Minato was a genin when he rescued Kushina from those cloud jonin (unless they sent a bunch of chunin to kidnap Konoha's nuke)

>>280848484
Yeah but there's literally nothing stopping her from having more tactical options by carrying a kunai and a couple of shuriken, other than dumb pride. It's not like it's a huge burden considering how much most ninjas carry.

>>280848282
The fanfics go even harder on Naruto's mistreatment. Naruto's birthday? The annual "Fox Hunt" for the villagers.

>>280848393
>>280848484
you think she ever used it to... you know...

>>280848518
What's with Kumo's obsession with kidnapping Konoha kids

>>280848808
It's where most of the ayy clans are.

>>280843353
Specialized Leaf Taijutsubros WTF is This SHIT Holy FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>280849039
naruto is superior to the kung fu brothers

>>280849039
This clip is essentially everything wrong with part 2, the old pros getting turbomogged by the MC syndrome orange boy

>>280848282
I think the anime's take makes more sense for the story

>>280848282
I prefer the anime's version. This moment especially feels better in the anime, since Naruto and Gaara's suffering seems far more similar than Naruto getting called stinky while Gaara is getting death threats.

>Anime Naruto:"That was it?"
>Manga Naruto:"What do you mean 'that was it'?"
>AN:"I got beat up by bullies regularly, survived murder attempts and even lost my filler friends, but all you went through was being called stinky?"
>MN:"Maybe if you.were called stinky you would've been hokage in your last episode"

>>280849527
>older generation would likely know what it's like to grow without a family thanks to constant wars
>encourage their children to mock a child for being an orphan
Nice "Will of Fire", you fucking freaks.

>>280850237
funnypow, chadnga won

>>280850375
Wasn't Danzo behind it too, or is it just popular fanon?

>>280850226
>>280850167
cute girls eating ramen is kind of cute and sexy

>>280850464
Even though she looks a little boyish it's not uncute

>>280843550
Jiraiya is literally one of the best characters in this manga though

>>280848684
"The civilian council" lol

>>280848600
She's strong enough to rip Shikamaru apart with here bare hands, kunais are overkill

>>280849178
... This is part 1 anon...

Can a ninja be born to non-ninja parents? Were Sakura's parents ninja who just didn't have anything useful to pass on to her, or just normal people?

>>280850871
Why can't they? The academy exists for a reason.

>>280850965
I figured chakra was hereditary or everyone would use it.

>>280850871
Well there's no mention of a Namikaze clan or any of Naruto's grandparents

>>280850824
it's the last OP of part 1, it's like the anime staff were telling us the old boys are about to get dumpstered

>>280849527
kek. Yashamaru was sent on a suicide bombing operation against Gaara but Naruto had no one to tell him to wash under his arms.
I still like how their story was wrapped up, though. Gaara is shook by how hard Naruto fought for Sasuke and Sakura, finds out people can be good to each other, apologises to his siblings. It was nice.
My problem with anime fox abuse is how it makes the adults in the Leaf look something between iredeemable cunts and really, really incompetent twats. Manga Naruto was a stinky delinquent, anime Naruto was an academy shooter in the making and no one seemed to give a shit. Makes Hiruzen look particularly bad, too. The son of the fourth Hokage is getting bullied and abuse on a daily basis, not to mention living barely below poverty line, and the old man doesn't move a finger.

>>280848684
That's some good doujin material if different villages do that too

>>280820089
How many times has a large group of shadow clones not immediately jobbed? Naruto needed rasengan because his first signature move is so OP it has to be nerfed into uselessness so he doesn't just clear every fight. we get some good use out of it in the coming sauce fight

>>280843416
Ino and Tenten have done absolutely nothing and I'm pretty sure they never do anything that ever matters

>>280843223
>weakening him
Gaara was literally at his strongest at the end of the fight.

I havent' seen sasukefag in a while, what happened?

>>280820089
>>280821309
Kimimaro doesn't currently know Lee only has taijutsu. For all he knows Lee's about to throw around ninjutsu on the same level.

>>280853309
Dunno but some other anon in these threads appears to have a massive crush on him