>walks towards you with intangibility
>teleports you into bumfuck nowhere dimension
>leaves you out to starve
Is Obito the strongest shinobi to ever live?

>>280867708 (OP)
It was a hologram.

why didn't that guy just use a substitution?

>>280867708 (OP)
Unironically yes. They used all their cunning and chakra just to break his mask, and his god mode had to nerf him by disabling this ability.

>>280867708 (OP)
If Obito had both of his sharingans + susanoo he would be stronger than Alive Madara.

To be fair, he was amped with hashirama cells. The real Obito would never be this broken if that didn't happen.

>>280867863
He had both his sharingans at one point. And didn't use his susanoo.
Which means he probably can't.

His dimension is a parallel world that exists between the real world and the dimension where Isshiki takes his cubes. Because you see cubes poking out on the floor. Those are the same cubes crossing the dimensions. Kamui exists as a filter to prevent those cubes from going to the real world.

Why didn’t he just secretly kidnap Bee and Naruto instead of declaring war at the summit?

>>280867953
Kishimoto is retarded

>>280867953
He has to materialize to absorb people. Yamato was right there.

>>280867708 (OP)
Didn't he break their necks?

>>280867953
This means that Nagato would be in charge of everything. And Nagato didn't know about the infinite tsukuyomi nor he could cast it. But he still had the eyes.
Nagato would tear this guy a new hole after realizing their goal would bring destruction to the entire planet.

>>280867991
>implying Yamato could have done anything about it
This man tanks Rasengan to the face for a living
>implying Tobi couldn't just teleport in Naruto's room when he was sleeping and kidnap him

>>280867953
Why secretly? Just teleport into a village with Pain, Konan, Kakuzu, Deidara, Sasori, Hidan, Kisame and take the hosts by force.

>>280868033
>Nagato would tear this guy a new hole
Nagato can't do shit because Tobi can literally just go in his dimension and then harass Nagato to no ends. He doesn't even have to find where Nagato is (although I bet he could), all he needs to do is wait for 3 AM when Nagato drops his guard for a moment, teleport in, teleport one of the bodies in Kamui dimension and move out
Rinse and repeat

YOU CANNOT DEFEAT TOBI
TOBI IS AN OMNIPRESENT OMNIPOTENT MENACE

>>280867851
It was removed in a balance patch because it was too overpowered.

Tobi should have been a real character and not just Obito in disguise.
I was so on board with this bumbling goofball with the most overpowered jutsu you've ever seen in your life helping the bad guys.
No can't have that you get Madara and Hashirama cells. fuck you Kishimoto.

>>280868067
He had to wait for Nagato to be killed to steal his eyes back. And then he had to run to Kabuto for help to fight 80k people, even though he had the power of so many bijuus and 100k zetsu.

>>280868091
How about black Zetsu controlling comatose body of obito?

>>280868091
They introduced spiral zetsu, he was essencially Tobi.

Why didn't whole Akatsuki teleport to single jinchuriki one by one with Obito's jutsu? Why did they have to spread in 2's and hunt down tailed beasts risking the whole operation? Wtf is this bullshit

>>280868123
He can't fight 80k people and he should never have to do so because he can teleport and take his targets without any trouble. He can literally walk around your village and nobody could do anything to him.

He doesn't have to wait for Nagato to die to take his eyes back. All he needs to do is harass him the way I described. No human being can remain on guard 24/7 prepared for the teleporting man who can kill a guy by touching him

And to make it worse, Tobi is a fucking monster of a tank, it takes like 10 nukes to kill him, you're not landing those, he'll shrug off your stabs, he'll shrug off your Rasengans, he'll shrug off your Chidori piercing his chest

YOU CANNOT STOP TOBI
TOBI IS THE MOST BROKEN MAN EVER

>>280867708 (OP)
kill yourself narutard

>>280868182
You can actually reverse jutsu yourself out of his dimension if you know how. Obito would never beat Jiraiya, or any other person with an animal contract.

>>280867708 (OP)
the fact that he didn't just do this to every single jinchuuriki in an afternoon is one of the biggest plot holes in this fucking series

>>280868246
Okay, then if he's facing someone who can revert summon or teleport out of his dimension they might be able to get him into a stalemate...

Except not really because he can still teleport at your place when you're sleeping and slice your throat with a kunai

Your only chance to not die from this is if he doesn't know where you live for some reason so he can't teleport kill you. You're not going to manage to do that because he can sleep in his dimension if he wants to.

So the best you get with Tobi is a stalemate where you're living hidden and in constant fear he might teleport in and fuck up your day

>>280868265
He didn't even know how to approach Danzo and would probably had lost a 1 on 1 to him.

>>280868276
Do you know how Obito teleportation works?

>>280868310
no how does it work. how can he teleport wherever he wants

>>280868310
Do you? How is what I said wrong? He can teleport in Naruto's room out of nowhere in >>280867953
What stops him from doing any of what I said?

>>280868182
>base Minato victim

>>280868285
Actually yes you found the only man on Earth who can defeat Tobi, but that's because he has Shisui's eye who can just mindrape you instantly, getting through any defense. If Danzo hypnotized Tobi the war would have been avoided

>>280868327
Minato didn't kill Tobi. Minato died from Tobi's plans. Actually Minato is the only other guy who can use these tactics I explained above since he can mark you and teleport to harass you just like Tobi did. Really makes you wonder why he didn't keep teleporting on Tobi's ass and stab him over and over again before sacrificing himself.

>>280868246
https://www.reddit.com/r/Naruto/comments/9p2fow/can_naruto_use_reverse_summoning_to_get_out_of/

It's been debunked. You can't reverse justu your way out.

>>280867708 (OP)
anyone with a space-time ninjutsu can counter this.

>>280868212
Snacks and moot are gone.

>>280868361
It hasn't been "debunked" you simpleton, Kishimoto never considered the idea in the first place nor cared about making it consistent

>>280868285
Who cares about Danzo?

Orange Tobi >>> Hokage Minato
Sad but true

>>280868424
>angry headcanon babble
Scholars already reached consensus on the matter. You can't reverse justu your way out of it.

>>280868437
Minato whooped his ass badly

>>280868468
Minato thought 14 year old Obito was Madara sheesh

>>280868455
>taking this manga seriously
Lol
You belong with your Redditor friends

>>280868361
No it fucking hasn't. Naruto and the other guys were trapped inside one of Kaguya's dimensions, which is even further away. And they could be reverse summoned.

>>280868546
No lol, Obito had to pick everyone up

>>280868377
Isnt Kamui a "sealed" dimension? Meaning its only accessible to kamui usage

>>280867708 (OP)
Kamui was genuinely the most retarded technique in the entire series.
>can be spammed indefinitely unlike all the other MS abilities because muh Hashirama cells
>literally impossible to counter by 99% of the cast
>only real counters against it are itself and Minato's flying thunder god jutsu

>>280868468
Minato barely managed to injure him. Obito retreated and could've destroyed Minato when he was resting

>>280868323
He teleports just like Goku.

>>280868322
He is a sensory type. He finds your chakra and goes there.
Meaning, plenty of times he actually has to get close to sense you.

>>280868603
Obito was dead by then. They were reverse summoned by Hagoromo.

>>280868784
>>280868764
Proof? I'm pretty sure he goes anywhere he wants. He teleported to Sasuke at Konoha despite not being there in the first place allegedly. He teleported into the Kage summit to save Sasuke and nothing indicates he was close to there. He keeps teleporting at random location, sometimes without anyone there. I'm pretty sure you're just a Narutoforums.com retard trying to push a headcanon there

>>280868797
Here's your proof.
And yeah, it also consumes him a lot of chakra. He was only able to do these short distance travellings because he was hooked to Hashirama's DNA. But it was still pretty limited.
With the sage of six powers and using Sakura as a battery he actually had Ootsutsuki range.

Absolutely — here’s a cleaner version without the second greentext:


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>>280868796

> Obito was dead and Hagoromo reverse summoned them back
Lmao no

Obito was very much alive when Naruto and Sasuke got separated.
He used Kamui to hop through Kaguya’s pocket dimensions with Sakura.
They found Naruto using a shadow clone as a chakra beacon, then tracked down Sasuke.
Obito dies after that, saving Kakashi.
Hagoromo had nothing to do with rescuing them from the dimensions.

You're thinking of the end, when Kaguya gets sealed.
Naruto & Sasuke are stuck in her dimension.
That’s when Hagoromo and the reanimated Hokage reverse-summon Team 7 back to the real world.

Two completely different events.
Touch some grass and rewatch the arc.


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Want it in a more bait-y or dismissive tone?

>>280868265
Obito being so overpowered really invalidates the existence of the Akatsuki, except for like Nagato.

>>280868832
>Here's your proof.
What does this prove? He tried to "find" the dimension where she was, which could mean literally anything. Your interpretation of this as if there were some clear cut stated mechanics that were always in place is retarded. The fact you post Niggastream pages makes you look retarded. The fact you try to infer chakra cost (even though he kept spamming this all the time) and that he supposedly has to be close to do it (even though we see him teleport from village to village) is retarded.

Hell, we saw him go from >>280867953 to the Kage summit even though they weren't close.

Your headcanon is stupid. You're a 60 IQ Narutard and you'd have been bullied out of this board back then. Sad.

>>280868851
and Nagato didn't need the tailed beasts, he's his own WMD and could have policed the world by himself

>>280868887
At least Nagato has the excuse that he'll die soon enough, he doesn't want to be the world police, he wants free WMD distribution so people would learn their limits naturally and repeat the process overtime when needed

>>280868906
>At least Nagato has the excuse that he'll die soon enough
the rinnegan is plug and play, just pass it on to Konan

>>280868834
>You're thinking of the end, when Kaguya gets sealed.
>Naruto & Sasuke are stuck in her dimension.
>That’s when Hagoromo and the reanimated Hokage reverse-summon Team 7 back to the real world.
Why the fuck did you even assume I wasn't talking about this part?
Obito has never reverse summonned anyone. Well, it's the same principle yes, both can be considered time space jutsu. But I specifically said "summon".
I was talking about this scene.

>>280868876
What headcanon? Was he not looking for Sasuke's chakra in those dimensions? You stupid fuck.
Wanna know who also teleports like this? Sasuke.

>>280867708 (OP)
cool hax, but that doesn't work against a being with immense reiatsu

>>280868971
He was "looking for Sasuke", whatever that means, it doesn't have to be him being a chakra sensor (in fact there's no reason he would be one). That also doesn't imply he needs to teleport like Goku, just that he's trying to find Sasuke because he needs to reunite with him. You're a Niggastream posting Narutard mongoloid who thinks this manga written for 6 years old has in-depth consistent mechanics and not just whatever Kishimoto's rotten brain cooked up at the moment. Naruto should have never been authorized on this board

Absolutely — here's a post arguing that what Hagoromo did wasn't technically a "reverse summoning", despite how it may look. It leans into a lore-nerd tone, with the usual 4chan energy.


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>>280868922

> they were reverse summoned by Hagoromo
Nah, see, even that isn’t really a reverse summoning in the traditional sense.

Hagoromo didn’t do some "reverse Kuchiyose no Jutsu" hand sign and pull them through a summoning contract.
There’s no summoner-summon link, no pact, no animal realm bs.
He literally used a Six Paths hax chakra tether via the dead Kage and just pulled their souls and bodies back from a collapsing dimension using divine asspull magic.

That’s not summoning — that’s pure Sage of Six Paths plot device energy manipulation.

Calling it a reverse summon is just shorthand fans use because nobody knows what else to call it.
But if you go by mechanics, it’s got nothing in common with actual summoning jutsu other than “thing appears from somewhere else.”

You wanna call Kamui a summon too? It's all time-space ninjutsu, sure — but terminology still matters.

So no, it wasn’t a reverse summon. It was Hagoromo pressing the reset button on reality and dragging them home.


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Want a snarkier version or one with more manga chapter refs?

>>280868763
>M-minato just made Obito run away like a bitch h-he didn’t beat him
>if Obito sneaked up on Minato while he was asleep he would t-totally win!!
Lmao
Minato wins that 1v1, fair and square

>>280869029
>whatever that means
It means he's a sensory type.

>>280869047
Obito can come back at literally any time and do whatever he wants

By the way somehow it seems it would have oneshotted Minato to pull him into Kamui zone even though Minato can teleport which makes zero sense because this is a retarded manga for children

>he ran away
KEKADOO

See? You don't know fucking shit about Naruto.