Thread 280915973

We win

>>280915605
She could have also just done a regular shield and killed him with hound.

Does anyone have the border briefing file translated into english? Does it even exist? All I can find on nyaa is the nihongo version

>>280916092
It's translated here
https://chippokenabokura.tumblr.com/bbf-worldtrigger

>>280916116
Excellent, thank you anon

In response to some posts in the previous thread (I am late), Koarai and Okudera are not that awful. Azuma was drilling basic concepts into them before handing them their sub-trigger toys, which if he had done in reverse order, would have spoiled them and ruined their training.

They won against Kage using bullets, and even though it is an offscreen victory, it still shows they are evolving.

Do you think that Hyuse also fell to the Scorpion Grasshopper Pinball move?

>>280916265
I'm sure he didn't
His petty ass would have picked Grasshopper as his 8th trigger otherwise

>>280916240
>They won against Kage using bullets
the ones that fly from a sniper rifle, Azuma's bullets.

>>280916265
Oh absolutely. That's the sort of thing he wouldn't be able to use in solo rank wars to not give it away. As soon as he had an opponent that wouldn't snitch he unloaded everything.
Hyuse has seen horrors beyond our imagining.

>>280916281
Yuuma beat the crap out of him in their sparrings and he didn't pick Scorpion and Yuuma also taunted him with the "ultimate grasshopper move!"

>>280915973 (OP)
to all newcomers, the next arc is basically a fan service arc where our agents gets to mingle with others outside their usual inner circles, as well as have some of the BBF and Q&A tidbits get drawn on the manga itself.
if you still don't know at least 5 upper B rank squads by heart, then you might not have a good time.

>>280916240
We knew Kage was defeated by Azuma's sniping
The chapter showed that much

>>280916240
>Okudera: Doesn't use Senku as soon as he saw Osamu. Uses hand instead of cutting wires when chasing Osamu.
>Koala: Got Thrustered by Osamu twice in the same battle.
They are shitters.

>>280916240
they're 2nd quartile B-rank at best, which is honestly not all that shabby, just absolutely nowhere near ready for A-rank.

>>280916383
thats what the guides are for

>>280916638
>Ema checking the logs

>>280916265
The pinball move actually seems pretty weak, and is more of a distraction that only works on the less experienced.

>>280916507
>>280916383
So you mean someone should dump it? >>280916116

>>280916718
It will be dumped tomorrow >>280912280

>>280916673
Just like Osamu's bullets, a hit is a hit. While it is relatively easy to counter if you know how it works, you do have to avoid it until you've gotten rid of it.

>>280916265
No but I bet he realized viper could counter those grasshoppers

>>280916252
Yuba is cool, wish we had seen more of him.

I love this series so much. I just reread it again but damn once you know the characters and their personalities it becomes even more enjoyable.

Anyone else here is following both WT and Gantz storytimes?
Fucking hell these last weeks were probably my less productive weeks of the whole year.

>>280916990
Yes, the appeal comes also from extended cast. I bet every character has a group of die hard fans, and although I cannot find fanart (I have zero knowledge of nip or moonrunes), I'm sure they all have at least some fanart.

>>280916875
The anime did a great job with Yuba

>>280917083
>>280916252
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCiDuy4mrWU

>>280902590
>he can activate escudo with his feet?
Other people can't?

>>280907519
>>280907531
>Konami pretends to be an operator
Wait, when was this stated?

>>280917083
>>280916252
Imagine Yuma vs. Miwa, BT retrieval fight, the Afto invasion and all of S1 rank wars with this level of animation.

>>280917083
S2 and S3 are really amazing despite a handful of small misses here and there. It's kind of funny how hard they go out of the way to disown S1 including reanimating every single flashback to events from it but they kept it's OST anyway. Well the OST is good so no complaints there.

>>280917222
For all its faults, I think nips really really loved Nino sidestep in S1
That's one change they are upset about S3 because it changed Nino sidestep

>>280916061
she could have done a lot of things like just opening up a meteor atop of them and shielded herself after that, but the point was to convey her mental fatigue for actually overcoming her barrier, finally

>>280917294
Another good thing they did was burying the fanfiction-tier filler arc they came up with.

>>280917171
No one uses escudo so they don't know how it works.

>https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/201066898
It's funny seeing anon's reaction to the original We Win and five years later it's all still the same reaction. That said I wasn't on borderchan back then, only joined a few months before S2 aired but I was surprised at one of the spoilers comparing We Win's payoff to the unsatisfying Kimetsu's last arc and huh? Both are around the same time? I can't imagine how borderchan on hiatus was like.

>>280917435
Oh yeah, the anime original filler arc. Those things are almost a relic from another era at this point.

>>280908539
Can you fight in rank wars with just martial arts?

>>280917546
you can't
There's no martial art strong enough to cause trion leakage

>>280917522
They just barely make long running anime adaptations like that anymore. About the only thing that regularly gets anime original shit these days is Detective Conan.

>>280917462
God IMAGINE the atmosphere in their regular meetings after Nino lost

>>280917546
Yes, just be a Raygust Thruster chad.

>>280917546
The closest would be Reiji's thruster punches. Regular hits don't do any damage. Scorpion is also frequently just attaching a blade to a punch or kick or elbow or knee.

>>280917620
Speaking of, combo attack with raygust thruster and scorpion for fast drive-by attacks?

>>280917697
It would be better to just slash or punch with Raygust.

>>280909365
> I really want to see them 1v1.
Whom?
Osamu vs Tachikawa?

This is my third time reading WT but I still get excited for this volume. It's just good.

>>280917697
That's pretty much what Yuma does with grasshopper and scorpion. So thruster could probably achieve something similar. In fact, you could do it with just raygusts. It'd burn through a lot of trion, but double raygust thruster spam could be a very mobile fighting style since you could be boosting all over the place with every attack.

>>280917568
>he hasn't heard of niko style

>>280917756
What if Raygust was used as the shield, with the scorpion blade extending out? Offense and defense

>>280909650
Why did Torimaru move to Tamakoma again

>>280917837
Kek Nino also looks like he had a religious experience.

>>280917959
Rumors are because a civil war was about to happen between his fans.

>>280917959
He wanted to bully Konami more often

>>280917866
Then is better to fight as Murakami Kou. A Kougetsu.
Scorpion is very light and we can see that most of Scorpion users are acrobatic. On the other hand, Raygust is a heavy weapon and the only way to move fast is by using Thruster.
If you are using a heavy shield that limits your mobility, then you may as well use a gun or a Kougetsu to get a better range.

>>280917959
Nothing really said about it but some anons theorized it was to take more part time jobs and to make more money

>>280918066
Regular A-rank salary must have been ass

>>280918009
Remember.
This is Grand Trigger Autismo.

>>280918009
>Q.119: Are Torimaru and Konami dating?
I think they probably aren’t dating.

Questions you would ask ashihara? I would ask him if it would be possible to throw raygust like sawblade with thruster, or would thruster autocorrect raygust to just move with the blade forward

>>280918082
He has a ton of siblings he's helping support or something so he needs as much money as he can get

>>280918118
Okay?

>>280918140
Composite gunner triggers. Two triggers on same side or one from each?

>>280918082
It's probably minimun wage with a few bonuses here and there depending on how many trion soldiers you killed

>>280918140
Reiji has a knuckle/dagger shaped Raygust so maybe it's possible.

>>280918187
>Minimum wage for the possibility of dying or getting v& in a faraway world
I guess only the most patriotic or vengeful people join as agents.

>>280918284
A lot of people are in border to protect their family, and Bailout takes away most risks, others just treat it as an extracurricular activity, at the end of the day if a big invasion like afto's happen whether you are a border agent or a normal civilian you will still be at the risk of dying

>>280918507
The only causalities of the last invasion were engineers sitting around at HQ so

>>280918538
And the C-rank agents without Bailout who were on evacuation duties.

>>280918063
I think all the different combinations would be good in the hands of the right person. Most people aren't able to do Shun and Yuma acrobatics. And there's really no reason scorpion has to be used that way. It would be a great complement to either of the other two attacker triggers even in entirely normal sword fights since anytime your body gets near the other guy you can scorp him.
Speaking specifically about raygust, even uncoordinated Osamu is able to get up on people and sometimes even take them to the ground with thruster. You combine that with greater fighting ability and a scorpion and you've got a pretty good combo. Blade mode raygust + scorpion would also be really good. Thruster is the only mobility trigger that is attached to an attack. So you could stay on people without ever letting up the offense. And having both a weapon that can actually take a hit and one that can guard anywhere would give the combo more staying power in a melee than just using one or the other. Although that would also be true of kogetsu + scorpion.

>>280918538
which sucks donkey dick because they probably didn't expect it. frontline agents are probably aware of the danger and have bail out system

>>280917083
Hope he gets to shine on the 2nd phase

For those who want to know how shitty our Four Eyes is and for those who thinks that Wakamura solo skill is C-rank level.
Osamu is shit, but Wakamura fighting skill is normal for B-ranks.

The idiot trio.

>>280909776
Why Nino splits his cube into triangles?

>>280917959
I thought it's because of Konami was there.
RIP his fans.

This is easily one of the most enjoyable storytimes I’ve ever been.

>>280917083
Freshly baked, enjoy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxHGzt_l5Tw

>>280918910
>those who thinks that Wakamura solo skill is C-rank level
this never makes any sense to me, like kuga and chika trion literally couldn't drag old osamu to high tier and you think that katori can solo maintain high tier with an even shittier fighter?

>>280918720
There is a non-zero chance he kills tachikawa or any of the top 5 attackers. That'd be a good redemption from jobber to threat.

>>280919029
Bigger hitboxes.
Before you think about aerodynamic, remember that trion probably ignore it.

>>280919029
he is a chunni that wants to be unique

>>280919204
>>280919225
the chart looks like koala and okudera is mentoring azuma kek

For the Katori genius crowd. Her stats are quite average compared to real aces.

>>280919242
>katori with grasshopper has lower mobility than spear guy
grim
does ashihara just not count grasshopper into the mobility stat?

>>280919304
Probably not.

>>280918983
Attacker and two shooters is solid and I think we haven't seen this formation before. Also their stats are decent.

>>280919029
He hates making Suwas

>>280909539
You can set Hound traps? I thought it was only Asteroid, but makes sense

>>280919131
>That ending
LMAO!
Well done anon, WT definetely deserves more memes.

>>280919395
They managed to bring down a Bamster with their training triggers without any issue. They are good, but just too unlucky to meet Yuuma and Hyuse.

>>280918910
>solo
Why is it about solo when Hyuse says Wakamura's team skill is C-rank, which is correct?

>>280919441
You can do it with all the bullets. We've seen it with Meteor as well.

>>280918910
>solo
Why is about solo when Hyuse says Wakamura's team skill is C-rank, which is correct?

>>280911175
>gets owned by 2 trion attack
Does high trion not affect defense stats?

>>280919569
His solo stats are good, which makes losing solo against Osamu even more embarrassing.

>>280919569
NTA but some people here unironically believes that jackson solo skill is also C rank and worse than mikumo after hyuse told him to begin again from C and how he didn't get much from inukai training, I remember seeing some of them from katori volume

>>280919577
Everyone's trion body is the same
Big trion only means bigger shields but that dumb Nino loved to beat others at their own game so he went full attack mode

>>280919577
Every Trion Body have the same durability.

>>280919598
>>280919612
One would think they would adjust the defense to represent trion level more. Especially since they're going to war against literal aliens.

>>280919596
>>280919569
I feel bad because he basically "learned" from his mentors by imitating without trying to understand the real lessons they offered. He needs to start thinking outside the box

>>280919493
Now that the main cast are going away, it is showtime for these guys. Dunno why I am rooting so hard for a bunch of side characters, but I guess that's the Ashihara effect.

>>280913234
>Tachikawa squad already doodled Nino as a dumb lion
When was this?

>>280919592
it's not really solo losing when osamu has prep times, and I still dont understand why miura didn't just senku an osamu with his back turned and no trigger hand

>>280919131
Those were not hounds btw, Yubagod just learned how to cuve bullets

>>280919789
Kek, gonna put that in the description.

Suwa's squad is quite good if we just look at the stats.
If Sasami becomes stronger, they have a good shot at becoming top B-rank. Or they can become better by getting a Sniper.

>>280919784
Osano Rui lives the true reverse harem fantasy.
Very close with everyone watching movies with her 3 boys in the afternoon then playing mahjong with the ossan squad.

>>280912610
Except Sukuna won

>>280919639
In some fairness, Inukai was just waiting for him to figure it out on his own. They probably aren't a good match for a mentor-student relationship because Inukai seems used to figuring things out on his own while Wakamura just needs more active instruction.

>>280919131
This is the version they showed Kanda.

realistically, could T2 do anything if inukai decide to be a dick and just bagworm hide to deny them the survival point?

>>280919636
The aliens work the same way. It's just an inherent property of trion bodies.
And from a meta perspective it's a good thing because it keeps power levels from getting out of hand since no matter how much trion someone has, they die if you shoot them.

>>280919986
They already got the 4 points they needed so it would have been just a huge waste of time.
Ikoma, Obishima, Tsuji and Ninomiya.

>>280917435
I still remember that one anon ages ago who'd just come over for the anime and asked when the filler characters were going to show up again. Poor bastard.

>>280919986
They'd know his last location before bagworming and Yuma is a fast boy. And it didn't matter. They didn't need the survival bonus to beat Kageura squad.

so have they gone through the portal yet or is this still in a never ending training tournament arc?

>>280920053
Lilith was pretty cute, can't believe they wasted Noto Mamiko on a shitty filler character of all things.

>>280920035
>>280920063
just a fun what if in the situation where they did needs the point
and even when kuga got there fast, I think it would still take a lot of time to search through the building, both kuga and mikumo didn't have a demolishing trigger like meteor or senkuu

>>280919131
How many years has it been since S3? How come no one has done this already?

>>280920183
In that case, impossible.
Yuuma trion was very low at that moment, the map is big and Inukai doesn't have any reason to get point.

>>280920069
They just finished the excel arc, now they are about to enter the war simulation arc.

>>280919636
Investing more into armor probably isn't worth it for the normal trion range that most agents have. Marginal defense gains while losing ammo. It might be a different story for someone like Chika who breaks the normal rules.

>>280919734
>Watching Osamu
Four-eyes' harem grows
>>280919612
Rabits are tanky as fuck

>>280920471
The armor of trion soldiers are different from the armor from trion bodies.
It's not explained why, but they are different.
An Ilgar in self destruct mode is tankier than a Rabbit by the way.

>>280919695
Chapter 206

>>280920063
>They didn't need the survival bonus to beat Kageura squad.
All thanks to GODzuma cucking Kage the match before them

>>280920533
400 yen for Chika? I'll take 100

>>280920069
No and No. The tournament arc is almost over, next is a five year arc about taking written exams.

>>280920526
Tachikawa killing twenty-something Rabbits on his own makes sense now.

>>280920590
Senku is made to destroy hard things as long as you are not a skillet.
It's one of the few things that Scorpion can't do.

>>280919734
>>280919775
Tsutsumi and Suwa really could stand to equip anything else in their free slots. Just having dual shotguns is far too limiting.

>>280920618
>Jin and Kronin just made Scorpion and called it a day without thinking about any kind of option trigger to give it an edge over other swords

>>280919242
>Katori command 6
>Suwa command 5
??

>>280920706
It's probably about how fast they make their commands

>>280917435
Man, that brings me back.
When I got into World Trigger, I had watched the anime first. I didn't realize that the Ergates arc was filler up until the insanely anti-climatic finish to the final boss.

>>280920639
Every new attacker trigger spawns from butthurt.
Jin got butthurt because Tachikawa beat his ass, voila, Scorpion.
Raizo got butthurt because bullets turned him into cheese, boom, Raygust.

>>280920637
Meteor gun trigger, assault riffle hound/viper/asteroid trigger or a grasshopper.

>>280920637
They'd rather have the extra trion for bullets and shields, probably.
>>280920706
I think we have to consider that the BBF as written is already outdated in parts. Also, one of Border's objectives of the Exam arc is to further evaluate members who the brass suspects may have more to offer as leaders than what they've shown.

>>280917015
I am


How do I fare?

>>280920841
Damn bro you're got a schizo loadout.

>>280920841
>Raygust without Thruster.
Disgusting.

>>280920856
The true schizo loadout is this.
Scorpion / Hound.
Assault Riffle (Asteroid) / Egret.
Shiled / Shield.
Bagworm / Grasshopper.

>>280920856
Every game I played online, every skill I aquired in my life, I always learned it fast and easy.
But I can't master shit. When I was younger I always had a headstart in any game me and my friend played together but ended up being left behind in the long run.

So I decided to go true all-rounder support.

>>280920864
Can you add optional thriggers without a slot for them?

>>280920898
No, optional triggers requires a slot.
The only ones that doesn't use a slot are the bullets for gun triggers and the limit are 2.
Even the near useless Star Maker takes 1 slot.

>>280920898
>Can you add optional thriggers without a slot for them?
no, you must have a open slot

>>280920898
You would probably want to focus on things that can trip people up. Kogetsu without whirlwind, Asteroid Rifle, Raygust with no Thruster, you're playing too fair.

>>280920898
Hi Katori, you should consider increasing the bust size on your trion body a bit more. Nono has you beat.

>>280920882
>>280920856
I think Raygust with everything else being non-offensive (Escudo, Grasshopper, Wires, Bagworm , Chameleon) is also a schizo loadout.

>>280920964
>Asteroid / Raygust
>--- / Thruster
>Shield / ---
>Bagworm / Spider
Osamu is one step from being a schizo.

>>280920864
>>280920915
I could drop Kogetsu and just stick with Raygust + Thruster.
>>280920920
I play fair, but my goal is to be ready to fill any role the team needs.

Need a frontliner? I go Raygust.
Need mid-range support? I switch to Rifle.
Need cover fire? Lightning’s got it.
So really, it’s the team that ends up pulling off the unfair strategies.
All I’d need is to find two lunatics to make it work.

280920935
Nah, she goes master rank easily. That's not my case, I learn fast but can't master shit.

>>280921004
>Raygust / Lightning
>Thruster / Assault Rifle (asteroid)
>Shield / Shield
>Bagworm / Grasshopper
Something like that? I changed your loadout a bit because Raygust and Thruster needs to be in the same Trigger.
Basically a support All Rounder?
Your mobility + attack is not that good while your defense/support is high after all.

>>280921063
Basically a support All-Rounder?
Yeah.
Grasshopper is a must since I need to be ready to change roles on the fly, and that means changing distance. Since my mobility isn’t high, it’s even more crucial.

Sometimes I could run Meteor or Hound on my rifle.
All main triggers are straightforward and forgiving, which would be a good fit for me, I guess.

>>280920882
True schizo build
Raygust / Enhanced Radar
Meteor / Ibis
Viper (Handgun) / Spider
Bagworm / Shield

Attacker, Shooter, Gunner, Sniper, Trapper, Spotter.

>>280921141
I'd have you on my team anon, you seem dependable.

I really wanted to be a brute force shooter but In case I don't have the trion for it, then I'd try to be an Ibis specialist.

>>280918840
Poor mikumo is gonna be bankrupt if he keeps being more in debt.

>>280921186
Isn't Sniper a role that needs a decent amount of trion?

>>280921245
Not exactly, you can't be a trionlet ofc but most snipers are on the lower-range.

>>280918840
I'm surprised he has a fucking 5 in skill, must be all the spidering.

>>280919242
Katori's stats are nonsense given what she actually does.

>>280919131
Heh, a gunner that runs you over is quite a sight.

I want to be a shooter but I'm retarded so in reality I'd just be a Jackson-level gunner

>>280921245
Toma, Ken, Kodera, Narasaka, and Arafune have 6 and Taichi, Hanzaki, and Akane only have 5.

>>280921291
Which is still low. Is aa low tier B-rank or high tier C-rank level of skill.
Everyone from mid B-rank are 6 skilla at minimum.

>>280921245
>>280921341
I forgot Ema. He has 6 too.

>>280918840
Ninomiya lost to THIS!?

>>280921339
And remember that Jackson's stats are decent which makes it even more painful.
Jackson should be a good fighter looking at his stats, but he somehow manages to be compelte shit in team battles.
He even missed all his shots when Osamu mounted him despite his high skill stat.

>>280920841
Ah yes, the classic dual wield of Kogetsu+Lightning
>>280921063
I say you should choose between Lightning or AR. They fill similar enough roles that you'll be wasting time constantly swapping weapons at midrange and leaving yourself vulnerable. Just stick to one that works at the ranges you'll find yourself in most often, and a Raygust would probably pair better with an AR with stats specced for distance. Maybe have a Meteor underbarrel grenade to vary it up and as a shield buster option.
If you're dead set on being an "all-ranger" and wasting half your loadout standing miles away from everyone then at least pick Egret, or maybe an Ibis if you don't like the Meteor option, but Lightning is better used as a midrange sidearm for snipers and doesn't fit what you're going for.

Nino won

>>280921402
Nino would have destroyed Osamu with the one arm he had left before bailing out if Kuga wasn't there

>>280921379
The explanation given for it makes sense.
If you put a low b rank agent in upper b rank battles, he won't improve because everyone is going to shit on him and it'll feel extremely natural.
He'd do good in low b rank, which is his actual skill level.

>>280919636
Chika would be invincible.

>>280921436
His stats are higher than Koala and Okudera and they are growing properly while fighting in upper A-rank and I am not talking about them winning because is Azuma carrying them, but they are learning and improving.
Wakamaru solo stats should be mid B-rank, is just his team play that is utter shit.

>>280917083
I look like this and run like this.

280921394
I could probably trade the AR for a handgun, but not for bullet triggers. My loadout’s already pretty demanding, so I rely on options that are simple and forgiving.
I’d mostly stick with Raygust and AR. Lightning’s more of a backup, something I switch to if I can’t regroup quickly or if the team needs sniper support or some return fire.

>>280921465
Azuma is a VERY hands on teacher, those two, in Katori's team instead of miura and wakamura would be huge shitters.

>>280921475
Meant for >>280921394

>>280921465
>Koala and Okudera
These two are a good comparison. They have a giga ace with them, way better than Katori. But Azuma is specifically trying to teach them and won't just win matches for them without making them try and learn. If you threw Jackson on a squad like Kakizaki's or Suwa's where there is no one to hard carry him he'd figure things out and end up doing fine.

>>280921484
Wakamura stats are higher than Sasamori (from Suwa squad).
Is just Wakamura team skills that makes him low B-rank tier.

>>280921402
He LOST
Yes, he’s strong as fuck but he still lost

>>280921509
And he wouldn't hang out the upper b ranks the whole time, which would help, really.
Katori is too good for her teammates and that fucks them over, even Miura is shit.

>>280921535
This guy again. Miura isn't a shitter, he is fine.

>>280921557
Don't know who you are talking about, but he's been in border for two years and still hasn't reached 8000 points as attacker.

>>280921535
Miura’s attacker point is near 8000
He’s not that bad

Basically, even if you have shit stats, as long as you underestand yourself you can be strong.
On the other hand, even if your diligent training raises your stats, if you are a retard you will always be a shitter.

>>280921612
That is why Hound is a good trigger for most agents. Even just having 2 modes of "heavy homing" and "light homing" is a simple switchup that could help out a Shooter at lower levels.

Also I wonder if a Shooter could in theory give up the flexibility of their number of cubes if they fully dedicated to always using the same number. Giving up one strength to remove a weakness while still having the ability to aim with more control than a Gunner.

Wakamura discussion is almost as intense as Four-Eyes discussion

>>280921598
>near 8000
7400 after almost two years.
I'd call that bad, considering the rest of mid and upper b rankers, kotaro is at 7000.

>>280921685
You get points by eliminating enemies like other agents or trion soldiers in defense missions, if if he focuses on defending katori while she gets kills then the only way for him to raise points are solo rank battles, it's not surprising for him to have relativelh little points.

>>280921776
I'd buy that... If not for the timeframe.
Would you tell me kuruma isn't a master rank gunner despite being ko's support?
And Miura seems to actively do solo battles and likes them.

>>280921509
It's kinda funny because those two are much less skilled than Jackson, but with the guidance from Azuma they've become better strategists, while Jackson has pretty much plateaued in skill but never got the chance to learn strategy, so once the kids eventually catch up in skill they will far surpass him as agents. He's not stupid though, a little time with people at his own level would do him wonders.
>>280921535
Miura is pretty good though, you can't blame him for losing to Yuma. He needs a role other than "stand near Katori" and he would do fine.

>>280921820
But ko is actually quite defensive in style, while kuruma himself goes for the kill whenever possible. He got the kill on nasu for example, and their latest formation uses kuruma to attack - i assume most of ko's attacker points were made while he was being taught by arafune, actually

Is this load-out too basic?

>>280921940
Why bother with shotguns, which are tailored for short ranges, when you use scorpion? Either use different guns to cover midrange or at least use hound to attack from different angles. Also your stats are way too minmaxed.

>>280921940
Gotta agree with the other anon. If you wanna rule at close range just pick Scorpion or the Asteroid Shotguns.

>>280921940
Do you think you are Suwa, or do you think you are Kaguera?

Rate my loadout

>>280922125
>100 trion
>1 defense
Dude blows himself up whenever he does anything

If I was in WT I'd be a 1 Trion shitter and made to be an operator and get bullied by all the operator girls

>>280921969
>>280922026
>>280922029
Fair critiques. I'll commit to being an ersatz Suwa.
Equipping a wide array of Triggers would make me feel pressured to use all of them (a needless rule I would definitely force myself to follow), so I guess that knocked me off-course into over focusing on a certain range.

literally perfection

I can’t wait for that one guy to sperg about Osamu and express his complete hatred toward him again when Wakamura consultation chapters arrive
assuming he’s still here, of course

>>280922383
Maybe he's the same guy who hates Hyuse.

>>280921940
Just ask an engineer for a custom mantis shooting shotgun.

>>280921612
A retard just needs to know their few strengths and channel that and leave any thinking to the captain.

>>280915590
Teruya didn't "grab a tile", she carved a hole into what she was hiding behind at the time and took the scrap chunk with her.

>>280922537
I'd have to be A-Rank, so no chance unfortunately.

>>280916875
It's rare to see a glasses guy character with his kind of bravado in manga/anime

>>280919242
This is baseline Katori in her usual mood.
Pissed off is x2
Pissed off calm is x4
also mobility 8 attack 9 skill 7 is nothing to scoff at. Yuma has skill of 8 & Konami 9.

>>280919242
>Miura uses Genyou
why though? he already has senku

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPHF9sMx0CA
>that loud CHIGAU
neutral commentator moment

>>280922383
Osamu is the biggest nepobaby who couldn't get 5000 friends in 3 months he was in border, meanwhile Jacksonu-sama has lots of friends over the course of 2 years. Nepo baby who does nothing and gets carried needs to be bashed for not having more friends!
kek its gona be fun. he is here for sure, you could have noticed his ramblings during the first installment of the salt tits. he hates both salt tits & four eyes with fiery passion

>>280922884
because senku & genyou do wildly different things

>>280919131
this works way too well

>>280922884
We haven't seen him use it so no idea what tricks he can pull.
Yoneya generally uses it to add a side blade when he thrusts hoping to snag the trion body with the surprise(that keeps failing)

>>280918910
>Wakamura fighting skill is normal for B-ranks
nope

>>280922157
you want to be bullied? you would enjoy it?

>>280919636
It comes down to what Usami talked about in the cookies chapter. Any trion spent on armour is trion you can't use on everything else. Border decided its better to have bail-out and shields rather than armour.

Aftokrator trion bodies do have armoured cloaks, so it is possible.

>>280922970
sorry bruv, Osamu is either high command or bin-bailout warlord.

>>280919636
the price for trion body creation would increase dramatically. Chika, Hyuse & maybe Nino could do it but I doubt about anyone else.

The bail out system should be utilized more for creating unit tactics.

>>280918910
I think there's a big disparity in b rank skill since All it needs is 4k in 1 trigger. Based on the Kogetsu matches with Hyuse there's clearly a Master-wall where the best the 7ks can do is 1 win if they have some prior knowledge but Tsuji who is 8k+ gets 2 wins with no prior knowledge. Granted it's a small sample but if it was easy the term "master class" would have no value.

>>280919596
no. the reason for why everyone says that Wakamura is a garbage gunner is his performance during the T2 match.
Wakamura has
2 years of gunner experience
6 months of direct training from Inukai
6 trion
Hound rifle equipped in his loadout
Osamu has 2 trion.
With this in mind do you understand what Jackson needed to do to kill Osamu 100 to 0 In the scenario they were in? You do not have any gunner experience mind you.
Jackson could have killed Osamu in 2 ways
First one was the basic awareness check, he swaps to Hound and unloads upwards with homing at max. Done. 2-3 volleys and Osamu dies to this every time without even seeing the enemy. Hell if Four eyes somehow becomes a dodge god just raining hounds on him would allow for a clean approach for either Katori or Yuta.
Second one was a stat check, when he walked towards Osamu and got a clear line of fire - brain off asteroid on and hold the trigger until free-point is claimed.
Jackson did neither, he got line of fire, kept walking forward, stepped backwards when Osamu was too close, tripped, got clapped then in the end when Osamu was right next to him, he didn't switch to hound to shoot him full of holes from the back, he just whiffed an asteroid barrage to the clouds.
This is about as bad as Azuma's cowlicks but at least those guys have the gears turning.
Jackson is just not meant to be a gunner. Not his thing.

>>280919639
I think he might fare better if he actually tried to imitate inukai-style gunnery and he'll start to question the difference between the original and his imitation but he doesn't have that kind of inner drive, he just trusted the plan even though it didn't seem to help.

I'm at volume 4 and really enjoying this so far but I think I'll wait for the next storytime since I'm way behind on this one
Also megane sex

>>280923287
>inb4 Jackson "coincidentally" picks up raygust and spider

>>280923346
Which is why I think Wakamura doesn't enjoy shooting his gun, like he gets no fun from seeing bullets fly or annoying people. Because otherwise I dunno how one goes to train under Inukai but doesn't ask him about how to run & gun. This is the most fun looking thing he does and by far the most effective, it would be the main reason why one would want to learn from him in the first place. If one is not interested in bunny hopping all over the map they might as well go to Kuruma, Kakizaki, or better yet Zoe.
And considering the team setup Jackson has, Zoe should have been the priority pick.

Where are you making our loadouts? I wanna do it too
>>280920637
Let suwa keep his double shotguns and turn tsutsumi in a SWAT larper, ditch the starmaker and put a meteor grenade addon to his shotgun, for his sub trigger change the shotgun for raygust + thruster

>>280923427
I think he should be a sniper. The only positive quality Wakamura has is that he can work hard at one dumb task for a long period of time without questioning it or getting annoyed. it just makes sense

>>280923427
Raygust might be good actually. At the moment he's copying Inukai's defensive gunner style but he's not very good at it.

We know from Osamu v Kazuma that Raygust can be stretched pretty wide while still staying strong, so you could cover your entire front. Let raygust handle defense so you can focus on attack.

>>280923287
>a clear line of fire
mikumo literally just needed to step back and he would disappear into the container realm, to get an disrupted clear line, jackson needed to step into the wire which was what kill him in the first place.
honestly that entire fight was a travesty from all 3 members, a team effort on total fuck up. hana's plan was "katori holds mikumo's attention while the other two stealth pincer him"
>katori tried to ragebait him once before just stting there seething herself
>miura being closer to mikumo but let him thruster pass for free, didn't even try to slash or senkuu a defenseless mikumo with no trigger hand
>wakamura was too slow of switching trigger, directly stepped into the wired for some reason instead of pincering from the other direction
I mean, all of your strat could totally work but the match even emphasized on how distracting and oppressing the wire was, it's understandable for people to make a slip up when trying to figure out a solution on a fly.

>>280923652
>undisrupted

>>280923287
A Zoe type gunner would have fired hounds at Kuga (which Wakamura knew was coming for Katori).

Inukai merced Chika at the end because he was salty about everyone ganking him to protect her in Tamakoma-2's first match with Ninomiya squad

Have we ever seen Hyuse use Senku? He has it equipped.

>>280923744
He's saving it for a surprise.

>>280923744
He's trying to get a 41m senku first.

>>280923652
H O U N D my guy HOUND Jackson has HOUND this is not a solution on the fly, this is using his fucking guns.
>mikumo literally just needed to step back
asteroid goes through buildings like paper, even if Osamu goes back if Wakamura knows his general area he can keep shooting.
>jackson needed to step into the wire which
he did and got a clean line of fire at point blank range before he made a step to the side/backwards and tripped. All he needed to do was stand still and unload the moment he saw the edge of Four eye's uniform. Here is the moment when any competent gunner would have opened fire directly through the crate, at this range Osamu wouldn't even understand how he died.
A trained gunner can kill Yuma in the face without Yuma being able to react with just physical training alone. Wakamura trains hard and he is doing that for 2 years. He should have been able to magdump Four eyes with asteroid if not in 0.2 seconds than at least 0.5 Osamu is not dodging or even reacting to that.
Once again all this is not even necessary, they didn't need to suffer through shibari rape zone.
Hound upwards and cackle 6>2 EAT SHIT TRIONLET

>>280923744
Nope. Most likely can't do it effectively as he is trained to stab people and he haven't seen Shinoda in action so going for wide slashes wouldn't feel natural with the sword style he was trained at and thus would mess his flow up.
>stupid meedeen monkeys doing long slashes
>who the fuck does slashes
>its all about the stabs
>stupid ass trigger
>Iko flashback
>i'll get it anyway

>>280923871
Just think of it as a monkey version of Organon.

>>280923920
>comparing national treasure to fucking senku
Hyuse would shit out a 5 hour long lecture if he heard this and then he would swap to scorpion.

>>280923814
the point was NOT to damage the container, or else miura should have senkuu the entire wire field away
and all you really comparing wakamura to fucking yuba, they play two completely different roles and different expectations
mikumo raygust can also take a beating, inukai asteroid was taking a while to go through it, and inukai's trion 8

>>280918140
Can you grab someone's shield and move that person around?
>>280918186
And this one.

>>280923814
if Inukai cannot instantly kill an even shittier osamu at point blank, then Wakamura shouldn't be able able to either

>>280921940
My OC combines his scorpions together into a battle axe because he is a Konami fanboy. Swaps to shotgun and rifle hound for group fights or ambushes.

>>280923814
if inukai cannot instant kill an even shittier osamu at point blank with no obstacle, then wakamura shouldn't be able to either in worse condition

>>280923986
Yup, he tanked a volley, he could possibly tank up to two, which is why I said 2-3 volleys, Mikumo tanked Inukai's shots at reasonable range, not a proper magdump at point blank.
To rise your gun and shoot at a presented target is a viable ask from all gunners no matter the rank, Zoe needed less than a second to open fire on Ko and he has a fuckhuge machine gun. Asteroid doesn't blow up containers, it makes neat clean holes in them, they wouldn't lose cover even if he shot directly through. Fine, he can't open fire after 0.5 seconds which is more than double what Yuba does but even shooting after a full second would be good enough.
I'm not asking for Yuta's senku's because he is missing an arm, senku is a fast taxing move and Yuta is a shitter with super long Kogetsu like Kuma. I don't think he could do it one handed.

>>280924068
Inukai wasn't point blank, Osamu was engaging from medium range. Rokuro was much closer.

>>280924097
it's not this match, it's the WALLSNIPE incident, inukai pushed mikumo from point blank out without completely destroying his raygust.
it also showed how jackson could survive glasses combo, if only he has been a better student.

>>280924138
this scene was my argument for 2-3 volleys. first one cracked the raygust, second one would break it & kill but third kills for sure.

>>280919029
Because it gives him more power to use pyramids to split his big cube into 6 bullets. With cubes, he would have 8 bullets of less power.

I hope Osamu continues to read his opponent like he read Ninomiya's emotional approach before round 8

>>280924138
forgot to add that I didn't count that as tanking because Mikumo almost died here but in Nino fight he took a full Inukai barge with just a clean shield, no raygust necessary.

>>280924221
Does he have a choice? He can't fight power for power or skill for skill.

>>280924221
did you miss what Oamu has learned in the recent chapters? He will never fight fair again.
Also no one did it in the previous thread or in the dump thread so I am doing it here. This was when Nino's fate was sealed, chapter 41 btw, naturally Jin is there asking the leading questions.

>>280924221
>miwa will always prioritize the N******R

>>280924324
I mean no one needs to post it because the actual chapters show the flashback.

>>280924337
he has two, so the strategy is to send them around in a split formation so he can't follow both at the same time thus locking him in a perpetual stunlock, the distance would be pretty crucial as if one of them is closer he will break out and rush at it.

>>280924320
He has literal cheat team members

even though I hate that bitch so much, Kitora bluntly telling Osamu he fucking sucks was the best thing that could happen to him. Being disillusioned greatly helped him in the remaining matches

>>280924534
He also doesn't like her very much at the beginning of the next arc

>>280924593
Isn't it Katori who he dislike?
Osamu put Kitora in the list of people he wants to work with IIRC

>>280924593
Kitora made the good boy list. He finds her usefull and easy to work with, while some people might not like her haughty personality, Osamu doesn't have ego or shame, paying in kowtows doesn't even register in his mind, its like getting free shit.
There is only one agent in the entire border who Osamu dislikes.

K*t*r* confusion

>>280924617
Oh huh I might've speed read that part
I thought that list was people they DONT want to work with the most

>>280923532
If I was in border I'd use raygust to form full body armor. Some people say that's stupid, that I'd need to reshape it for every single step I take, I won't let accurate criticism keep me from a good time.

>>280924638
>Osamu doesn't have ego or shame, paying in kowtows doesn't even register in his mind, its like getting free shit.
I mean, isn't it?
All he needs to do was feeing her ego some mundane displays and he got to know a trigger that changed his way to contribute

>>280918840
>>280918983

I wonder what command and special tactics are a measure off, because it is very obvious that Osamu isn't just "+1" Kouda in this statistics.

Then again, wasn't these scores official in-verse rankings? So Osamu's "soft" values are probably severly underrated.

>>280924638
Imagine being so S rank at being a bitch that even Osamu, with his power level 100 mom, has trouble dealing with you

>>280924643
Yes, that was the list, and he listed Katori as one of the few people he does not want to work with.

>>280924639
many such cases

>>280918860
What the fuck, this faggot's even worse than Osamu and he got 5 points in trion!

>>280918983
These guys' stats are alright. I hope they will iron out their personality over time.

>>280924775
Yeah I just realized I misread the first post kek >>280924639

I rolled dice for my Trion level. Fuck my trionlet life, have to actually work super hard.

>>280924865
Which site is this?

>>280924879
Just google WT OC maker, its the github one.

>>280924865
you will be fine
can do better than Kitora even

>>280924865
lower your trion and you'll have a cute little heart

>>280924744
Command is making decisions on the field. Osamu is excellent at strategy/preparing for battle, but hesitates and fumbles when the situation does not go as he expected.

Special tactics might be imaginative ways to use their triggers, and for this stat 4 is actually quite high, since the max for normal triggers seems to be 5 (asuma).

>>280924934

>but hesitates and fumbles when the situation does not go as he expected.

I think his performance during the Aftokrator invasions shows that comparatively to others, Osamu is very good at adapting to changing battlefield conditions.

I think you need to think about this comparatively. Sure, Osamu can be shook up when things don't go as planned. But he is not the only person who get shook up by things not going as planned, and you know what most other operators got in common? They get turned into points as Osamu and co. continue climbing the ranked wars ladder. Osamu is comparatively very good at dealing with things not going as planned and he is a very fast improviser.

The only guys who seem "better" than him at this during the ranked wars where guys who actually maybe weren't really challenged all that much, because they had the skill to brute force their way forwards, so tactics and strategy was secondary for them (Ninomiya is the best example of this. Since he is so busted powerful, he is hard to touch even if you outplay him).

R8 me, also try making loadouts for characters from other manga

>>280925020
there is also Oji who has both skill and tactics

>>280925051

Yeah, Oji was the second guy I was thinking off. Enough smarts to not get flabbergasted by Osamu and the skills necessary to bulldozer Osamu in a straightforward encounter, which puts Osamu on the tactical back foot, because the onus is on Osamu to outsmart Oji, while Oji "defaults" into a win if Osamu fails to outsmart him.

>>280924739
would depend on the personality, for a lot of people this would be a sticking point

>>280925041
Egret?

It's funny that anons think they can become perfect all rounders

>>280925154
If a simp like Reiji can, so can we

>>280924757
Osamu's mom isn't a bitch though, her power level has nothing to do with it. On that note focused Katori is a splitting image of Kasumi.

>>280925129
For the sick 360 noscopes while grasshopping probably

>>280925154
That's nothing, in my head I'm the coolest (strongest) guy around.

>>280925020
>>280925051
>>280925110

A final note on this was that in the B-rank wars, there was only one guy who actually outperformed Osamu in tactics: Azuma.

Oji could equalize him, and because Oji is a battlefield threat, that was enough. Azuma though? Azuma was basically the only person outplaying Osamu.

I don't remember what Azuma's command and special tactics score was at, but basically I'd put Osamu at -1 Azuma on those two scores (perhaps -2 on command since it might include team management, which Azuma is notably exceptional at. He can actually mentor the other teammembers).

>>280925167
Osamu's bum ass dad away on work while his 11/10 wife is sitting at home alone...

>>280924934
>but hesitates and fumbles when the situation does not go as he expected.
what? Have you not seen what happened when Chika blown up? Here, have it. It was a perfect display of quick derision making under stress, adaptability and his command aptitude. The same thing happened when Hyuse refused to use viper against Kage, Osamu just went
>okay he has a plan, lets execute it, what do you want me to do?
Lightning fast decision making.
Osamu is at his best when shit doesn't go according to plan, he thrives in chaos.

>>280925154
Border does have a rather small agent base so it really is about being there. If Jackson can be even B rank then I can be B rank.

>>280925206
>while his 15/10 fifteen out of ten wife
ftfy

>>280925167
Anyone who can handle a woman of Kasumi's intensity on a daily basis should have no problem ignoring some bratty tsundere.

>>280925129
>>280925179
*quickscopes
But i want it more for suprise attacks against medium range guys, they won't expect a sniper shot from 5 houses away. I was the same guy who made some wacky mobile sniper loadout, one anon understood what i wanted to do with it which is being super aggresive from mid range, and i insist that Egret can be modified to shoot faster in exchange of range.

>>280925154
It's really a shame we haven't seen Katagiri in action since he's a gunner with a pocket egret instead of the close-mid of all-rounding.

>>280924934
actually even before the final match, It took Osamu just a few moments to order Chika to blow up the bridge. Osamu thinks very fast.

>>280925339
just use lightning?

I'm still sad Reiji's first on-screen use of Full Arms was against some fodders

>>280925382
Not enough power

>>280925337
in theory, but we know for a fact she got to him. That
>oh its mutual
scene is pure gold and people say Ashihara can't do expressions. He is also cautious of her and sometimes it feels like he would pull out a rayugst if he could. Incredibly entertaining dynamic. Once he gets a full read on her personality though, its over.

>>280925395
Reiji & Torimaru basically wiped out a force that was holding against half the border. It was a good display of extreme firepower he could have if left unmolested. Naturally Chika with full arms would be a much funnier character.

>>280918840
Imagine losing against this.

>>280925154
I know mysef.
I am a Doube Raygut Thruster chad.

>>280918840
>B-rank #8
oh this stuff is way outdated
>Yuma is partner
I'm so sorry border ladies, this hottie is claimed.

>>280925041
Lmao, look at those stats, what a scrub.

>>280925523
Aibou is a different thing

Ninomiya trying to bluff that Osamu is not a threat against Yuma was a cool scene.

>>280925544
Pls no bully :(

>>280925438
agreed, she'll be as easily manipulated by him as Konami is by Torimasu

>>280925487
>imagine
the entirety of b-rank doesn't need to imagine.

I need them to be done with the Away Mission so we can have some quality A-rank war

I want to be an annoying ks
Which other trigger should i put (or replace one)

>>280925739
Escudo

>>280925739
second grasshopper

>>280925739
Have you seen Urushima's loadout? He's like the KS king.

Don't look
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCKjekT4g88

>>280925646
based

>>280925739
Hound

>>280925154
earning the points would take a while but trigger loadouts to achieve it are fairly straightforward, here is one with emphasis on speed/hit and run tactics, which can also work for trionlets without lightning and assault rifle hound.

>>280925618
every time I think about them having to fight as a cohesive combat unit I get excited. Its just going to be so much fun.

>>280919131
For fuck sake Yuba, EQUIP A GRASSHOPPER.

>>280919131
Yuba has mobility 9 without any trigger that boosts mobility. This guy is the real deal. Konami has 10 but she is a scary monster.

>>280925934
Dude is one of the strongest duelists in close range and he doesn't equip a grasshopper. This is maddening.
Does he just like to run over people??

>>280925958
yes. he runs at you with both hands free so he could instantly pull out his guns while Nono is doing the range countdown to his target, the moment it gets to 22 bullets start flying.

>>280925958
>Grasshopper in range (22m).
>Gunblitz you.
>Grasshopper out.
Scary shit. Dude would be THE attacker killer.

>>280925989
Remembering again that the reason why Raygust was made was because Shield tech upgrade made Shooters and Gunenrs busted.

>>280925958
He wants the extra trion to go to his big dick bullets

>>280925958
Yes, that's the kind of person he is, considering his draw and firing speed he can literally just do that to nearly everyone especially in lower/mid b-rank

>>280926042
Not only in B-rank.
Inukai and Tsuji are practically A-rank agent and Yuba can destroy them.

>>280926042
Yuba not only ran down Inukai - the guy famous for running & gunning, he made him drop his gun and go full guard. Before the demotion Nino was a-rank #4

>>280925545
>implying

Can Mikumo's raygust block Yuba's bullets?

>>280925958
Tbf, there's zero reasons why everyone isn't using grasshopper.

>>280926149
Raygust+shield maybe.

>>280926177
>Tbf, there's zero reasons why everyone isn't using grasshopper.
What a plothole! You should write Ashihara about it. Imagine if everyone could jump 60 meters like it was nothing

>>280926149
most likely not. Yuba has more punch than Inukai and Inukai would break it in 2 magdumps.

>>280926013
He usually wants to have both hands to drawn.
But desu if he coordinated with Nono he could Grasshopper to like somewhere between 24 meters, then use the last stretch to bag grasshopper and drawn both pistols.

He already changes double shield to double pistol extremely fast. There's no reason he couldn't use grasshopper.

>>280926147
Saiki and Nendou wasn't like that either

>>280926244
Are you sure

>>280926196
Well... yeah.

>>280925989
I wish Nono would whisper countdown to my ears

So are we not doing the dump of the databook today since someone's just dumping the pages here?

>>280926320
it stops at 22. you would always end with blue balls.

>>280926306
Yes, they aren't like that
Neither are Yuma and Osamu

>>280925802
I think i could do better with this loadout; meteora and bagworm on different hands, so i can set up bombs in secret (honestly if urushima swapped chameleon with meteora he could do the same, i don't see why he doesn't since bagworm and chameleon can't be used at the same time anyway); viper so i can fire at people without line of sight, escudo which i can either use as cover or to move people into the path of the viper bullet; since I wouldn't have nasu or hyuse's level of skill to be able to pre program dozens or hundreds of bullet trajectories, i would focus on one single bullet with a lot of range or a lot of power, so it might be difficult to get fatal hit (unless the enemy is nearby a planted meteora bomb that i can detonate with a viper shot)

Biggest problem is that chameleon, dummy beacon and escudo are all a bit heavy on trion usage.

>>280926320
I wish I had a cute tomboy to penetrate.

>>280926442
>Yuma penetrated her twice
>both times from the back
interesting

>>280926442
Imagine how many time Yuma thought about his childhood friend when he faced her

>>280926442
Her voice is really cute in the anime.

>>280926467
You think Arashihara planted something there to bait the shippers or are we just insane as always?

>>280926518
Yuma said some encouraging words when he made her bail out so I think he did feel something
Not sure if he projects his childhood friend on her

Urushima is roleplaying Metal Gear as a border agent.

>>280926589
Ngl, it sounds fun as fuck.

>>280925958
I mean, he kicks people.
>>280916252

>>280926518
it just shows that Yuma did care about Izukacha, since he barely knew Obishima but was willing to throw her a bone.

>>280926361
you overestimates my power

>>280926646
WT is one of the most fun anime worlds to be part of in general.
Even if you're a trionlet, you can still be an operator.
The fact that Border itself is a civilian organization, and not a military one (which is insane) just make it even better.

>>280926589
>>280926646

Bro is just a simp for his operator. He knows she doesn't have the skills to keep up with the other operators, so he decided to make it easy for her by becoming a solo agent. He's literally just doing it for her

>>280926749
Just checked.
Lmao she has more trion than Osamu.

>>280926779
Most operators do

>>280926749
If Urushima was forced to add another member to his squad for whatever reason, would Osamu be a good pick? His thing is creating opportunities rather than finding them, so he might not be that much of an additional burden.

>>280926749
Not a simp, he goes over her and ignores her ramblings without an issue. The relationship dynamic is a pet/owner and it shifts depending on the time of day

>>280926694
wonder whether he'd pick older brown tomboy or younger brown tomboy, I'm guessing he'd go older

>>280926839
at this point Izukacha's boobs should be bigger than Obishima's head.

>>280926787
>Most people do
ftfy

>>280926807
No way, osamu is all about team strategies, the only way you'd join urushima team is if you would also want to work alone without much operator support and leave the battle rewards for the person that earned them.

>>280926787
Not exactly:

Sayoko 7
Ren/Rui 4
Hikari 5
Maori/Yuka/Rika/Sakurako 3
Rest is 2 or 1.

>>280926857
Aged-up Izukacha is most likely the reason that Ashihara put in the "current character" caveat in Nono's bio.

I took some suggestions from anons in previous threads, and I think I've got a solid build now. The idea is to be a mid-range pressure/defensive support. Assault rifle is meant to support long range and force directional shields to block it, leaving them open to other angles of attack. Shotgun hound is tuned to have high spread and homing, essentially creating an omni-directional cage attack with each shot. Meteor is for grenades/traps/area attacks. Raygust is mainly always out in shield mode, but switches to blade and thruster for quick attacks to close distance

>>280926949
You don't have trion for all that.

>>280926807
nope. Osamu actually has a hidden operator tax (Usami map me the areas for wire setup) and he was spoiled rotten by having Usami at his disposal. Osamu is going to be a chore for any average operator to death with and he would instantly fry Rokuta's brain.
Osamu cannot function without a capable operator, so he would be much weaker.

>>280926988
Trion is fine, they just won't be that strong.

>>280926988
no he does, he only has gun triggers on one side, meaning no full attack and if he is mindful of weapon swapping its not an issue.
raygust costs much less than shield spam so it would be of great benefit in the long term.
Its a solid loadout.

>>280926995
Usami is an angel, having to deal with two teams and one of them has 4 people including Osamu.

>>280927059
They both have 4 people with Jin back technically.

>>280927027
>>280927022
If you want to have a full set you should at least have 8 trion.

>>280927070
T-1 has 3 people before Karasuma got poached by Tamakoma

>>280927059
I want to provide back massages for stinky Usami after a long day of work.

>>280927074
Then drop thruster and/or meteor as needed

>>280927154
Yep

>>280927137
Kodera please stop posting.

>>280926807
Urushima's specializes in stealth and kill stealing.
Osamu won't work well with that he needs people who can hold their own in the open for him to do his setup.
Urushima would work well with either someone who specializes in causing chaos and can survive on their own for a while (IMO, this is the stronger option) so he can capitalize on the chaos.
Or someone who can play solo without much support (this is the more realistic option that reduces operator burden) to create more situations teams have to be worried about and make it easier for either of them to sneak a kill.

Realistically, Toonoka would be the easiest person to slot in as he from what we've seen is already fine not getting much operator support and plays a similar role to Urushima but at longer ranges.

>>280927161
Could probably drop Shield from the mainhand and just use Raygust in its place.

>>280927177
That too.

>>280927074
Full set is usually 5 (average) or above, below that is when empty slots become a necessity (Kitora and Yoneya at 4, osamu at 2)

>>280927059
people don't understand the absolute state of Usami.
on average Osamu doesn't bother her too much but he always gives her direct control over Chika, so all Chika's movements are controlled by Usami as she keeps her away from threats and guides to sniping positions.
At the same time she also provides all the necessary info on demand and gives standard level of operator support. This is base Usami.
Once Osamu got spider, Usami's job became harder as now she had to map the areas on the map for Osamu's webs while keeping up everything else.
With Hyuse load further increased as Hyuse likes to ask her for current info and map coverage.
Finally there is the T1 Usami mode in which she is effectively an AI, she does everything above mentioned at much greater efficiency, to the point of identifying enemies based on movement patterns alone.

>>280927074
Lol no 8 is fuck huge. Most people have 5 and they run with full sets. If you want to be trigger happy and shoot then yes, leave empty slots but at 6 trion there is just no need especially for a single gun hand. Its well in the green zone.

Meta is: Attacker/Gunner/Shooter/Sniper.

The best meta breakers are:
>Urushima (Solo Kser)
>Yuba (Close Range Gunner)
>Arafune Squad (Full Sniper Team)
>Toma Squad (Trapper and Sniper)
>Kazama Squad (Full Stealth Attacker)

Did I forget anyone?
What other archetypes could the cat have introduced?

>>280927273
Quite a few 5s and 6s have empty slots. But I don't think it is a requirement like when you are 4 or lower.

>>280927285
I personally, would love to see a Lightning+Grasshopper Mobile Sniper fighting like at gunner range.

>>280927285
>Meta is
attacker + shooter. Tachikawa & Izumi are holding rank 1 with a free point handicap.

>>280927074
No it depends on what role you're playing.
You can probably run a full set as an attacker on 5 because they are normally much more trion efficient.
For gunners it might be a bit higher at 6 or 7.
For its hard to say, as none of them barring Chika have a full setup.
That's either because having bagworm for an entire match cost that much trion that its better to have an empty spot.
Or because they plan on having bagworm out 99% of the time so aside from a shield and maybe an escape option there's no need to actually fill out the subtrigger.

>>280927304
usually it comes down to bullet triggers, if you are going to go full attack and splurge trion you want empty slots. if you want to slowly chip away at enemies you really don't

>>280927320
Nah, those two are just that good.

>>280927381
don't spoil Zoe's secret build

>>280927402
I appreciate how Zoe is like the how fat combatant in border and he gets all the heavy gunner weapons. We all know the strongest fatty in border is Raido though.

>>280927381
I think that if you went
>Shield
>Escudo
>Raygust
>Thruster
In each hand, you'd get the same meme idea but have it actually be a bit functional.
Just shape one Raygust as a spear and the other as a shield when you use both.

>>280927476
>how
one
>Raido
Raizo
I am drunk.

>>280927476
loose weight brother, its easy. just give up on the oats

>>280927495
>Just shape one Raygust as a spear and the other as a shield when you use both.
I like your thinking anon. I hope we see more irregular weapons in the future. It really bothers me that the only variation of Kogetsu is spear, where is Kogetsu axe? Or does Konami get exclusive rights to axe wielding in Border.

>>280918799
Din't know about Chika secondary side effect, have she ever used it in the manga?

But damn, that is so OP for an sniper. Only thing holding Chika's down is her inexperience, she will be EVEN more OP with some training, could reach 70+ points in that chart thing

>>280927285
>>280927320
The most optimal build would be Attacker/Gunner/Shooter/Sniper.

Atacker (Defender)
>Raygust/Kogetsu
>Thruster/Senku
>Shield/Shield
>Bagworm/Grasshoper

Gunner (Full Offense)
>Rifle (Asteroid)/Rifle (Asteroid)
>Grenade Launcher (Meteor/Hound)/ -
>Shield/Shield
>Bagworm/Grasshopper

Shooter (Support)
>Bullet/Bullet
>Bullet/Bullet
>Shield/Shield
>Bagworm/Grasshopper
Bullets may vary according to the match.

Sniper
>Lightning/Ibis
>Shield/Shield
>Bagworm/Grasshopper
>Dummy Beacon/Enhanced Radar

Everyone should start the round with bagworm on, no reason not to.
Grasshopper should be mandatory.
An attacker is at his best when he's actually defending his artillery.
Gunner is the straightfoward role so it should be the most offensive heavy.
Shooter has too much utility so it should be focused on the support role, it also has the best range for it.
Sniper should use Azuma strat Lightning+Ibis combo brings more to the table than Egret and this team don't want to be full far away anyway, Dummy Beacon and Enhanced Radar for the class that can set it up best.
Chameleon is overrated, and only Kazama team can use it to its full, use hounds if needed.

>>280927285
a-1 Attacker/Shooter/Yuiga
a-2 Trapper/Sniper
a-3 2 Attackers/All-rounder
a-4* Attacker/All-rounder/Gunner/Sniper
a-5 3 All-rounders/Sniper
a-6 Shooter**/Attacker/Trapper
a-7 All-rounder/Attacker/2 Snipers
a-8 Attacker/Gunner/Sniper/Spotter
* The Captain is the operator and not a field agent
** Kako is grinding her scorpion rank so she'll eventually be an all-rounder

>>280927285
Kakizaki unit picking egret so they can be a squad of perfect all-rounders, ready for everything.

>>280918860
>>280918840

I think this is seeling Yuiga short, didn't he win a lot against osamu? Yuiga is a triolet too so Trion can't be everything, either Yiga has slightly better combat stats or Osamu is even lower lol

>>280927601
You know, I think the combo Shield/Escudo works best than Shield/Shield, except for maybe the attacker.
Escudo is better against artillery anyway.

>>280927637
He still has way more trion than Osamu and it matters the most in shootouts

>>280922359
That's yukimaru ichijo's loadout (minus escudo), and he's an A rank agent and a battle junkie.

>>280927884
The Kataguiri Squad is the A-rank squad I'm looking foward the most to.

>Kataguiri the Gunner/Sniper/Trapper Captain
>Yukimaru the Double Rayguster
>Asumit the Spotter

>>280922359
>Mobility: 2
Too much bonchi rice cracker for anon.

>>280927884
>>280927972
I guess he throws one of the raygusts and uses the other one as a shield? I know raygust can be regenerated fairly quickly because Ko almost did it but got stabbed by Hyuse.

>>280928053
I assume he shifts both hands between shield /sword/dagger/fist as wanted and move around in the air with both thrusters.

>>280927637
Yuiga has more trion than Kitora.

>>280927988
With double Raygust it hardly matters. Kgatg

>>280927601
Sniper needs an Egret.
Egrethas the better range and increases with Trion.

>>280927884
>yukimaru ichijo
>tried to battle amo with his black trigger
im thinking based
double raygust + thrusters really is the one and true way

>>280928560
Not in that case.
This team is supposed to stick together, and as Azuma show the Lightning+Ibis combo brings more to the table than an Egret does.

An egret is more useful for a team that relies more on stealth ops or if they need the Sniper to be as far away as possible.

>>280928562
>Spoiler
Where was it mentioned? I think battle autists in border would try and challenge those with black triggers more.

>>280928648
Touma only uses an Egret and he is the n°1 Snioer and is in the n°2 A rank squad.

>>280928770
He also has a completely different strategy/fightning style from this squad.

>>280927637
5 trion are not low
It's the true average amount unlike whatever copium Kitora is on

>>280927601
If this team had only average B-Rankers it would still be at the top of B-Rank losing manly only to full Tamakoma-2.
I'm pretty sure they would have good chances of taking down Ninomyia. Azuma and his boys being the biggest threat.

>>280927666
Escudo guzzles trion, unless you are 18 trion boy wonder its not that good

>>280929027
Jin has 7 trion and he still played Escudo bondage with Hyuse just fine

>>280929054
>only 7 trion
>most busted side effect in the entire series
I would really appreciate Ashihara properly explaining side effects eventually.

>>280929054
There is a difference between what Jin did and Hyuse does in the mall fight.

>>280928658
vol 25 extras

PULL THE WORLD TRIGGER ON EVERY

>>280929054
Jin can rape anyone with anything and he doesn't spam them anywhere close to Hyuse

>>280929073
It’s random gacha that you have to have moderate trion to pull from. Chika’s trion “only” gives her a second pull and both of hers are mid.

>>280928053
I say dual thruster attacks.
Full charge
Whirlwind
Death from Above

>>280929189
fuckhuge threat radar that works on trion soldiers, bullets and bodies.
radar stealth
this means she is the best sniper in existence once she masters both

>>280929303
Chika will make a black trigger for Osamu eventually and survive it.

rate my build

>>280929557
>sniper without an Egris

>>280929557
>double sniper rifles
fool

>>280929557
>satori but retarded

>>280929612
So, Satori?

>>280929557
Can ibis planted and remote controlled?

>>280929866
No.

>>280929557
one shot wonder, coz you only have one shot before you run out of trion

>>280923287
>Hound and unloads upwards with homing at max
This does literally nothing. Yuba tanked a barrage of Ninomiya hounds doing exactly this and his shields weren't even getting particularly beat up. Osamu doesn't even have to use his raygust to defend against this.
>walked towards Osamu and got a clear line of fire
The entire point of fighting in the container maze was to allow Osamu to break Jackson's and Katori's lines of fire at his discretion.
Osamu's whole strategy there was to give Katori squad a choice; stand around taking ineffective shots at me while my monkey cleans up the other squad, or try your luck inside the wires.

>>280923741
lol, I didn't think of that but you're probably right.
>no one to stop me from killing you now

Alright I'm about to start reading what am I in for?

>>280930176
The great filter that is the first two volumes and then a fun sports manga.

>>280923287
Jackson failed a point-black shot, that's how much of a failure of a gunner he is, he could've easily taken down Mikumo along with him

>>280930130
>This does literally nothing
this killed Nasu, Yuba and Chika. Hounds from the top is the way to kill literally anyone. Jackson has 6 trion to Osamu's 2, he would kill him in 2-3 volleys of hounds, no questions asked and that is assuming Osamu blocks them perfectly.
The other thing is that forcing Osamu to move/block would allow Katori & Yuta to move freely and execute him. The benefit of blind hounds is that he can effectively pin down Osamu without line of fire if not outright kill.
>to break Jackson's and Katori's lines of fire
You are rejecting the image that shows you a clear line of fire directly through one block. Wakamura clearly saw where Four eyes was and could have unloaded then and there, even if it didn't kill it would force him into guard mode which would allowed Katori & Yuta to do their jobs.
Your expectations from Jackson are already on the level of a lobotomized C-rank.

>>280924739
>feeing her ego
That wasn't what that was about. She explained it herself afterwards. Everyone unconditionally supporting you and giving you everything you want without a second thought builds up a feeling of needing to repay their kindness with results. Especially after repeated failures. She was being a bitch so Osamu wouldn't stress as much about making her proud.

>>280919131
Anons is the audio bad mixed here? It sounds fine on my headset but atrocious on my phone.
Can anyone chime in?

>>280923287
There are entire essays between these two.

The game plan is simple. Reach skybox by chaining thruster > grasshopper > thruster, once there find closest sniper dot on the ground.
divebomb with double truster
no matter the enemies I would be having the most fun on the map every time

>>280926149
>>280926198
1 (one) shot.

>>280930743
yeah, no. instant death even in full guard. Yuba has 12 of these

Rindo Yuri is Yotaro’s bride and there’s nothing Reiji can do about it

>>280930654
Azuma fodder

>>280930415
>this killed Nasu, Yuba
No, being rused while their focus was split being them needing to fight back killed them. The hounds were unable to go through their shields. Full defense Osamu just keeps shielding and blocks the whole barrage.
>Chika
The whole point of that was to show how inexperienced she is at fighting. With her trion, Chika could have done the full shield people use against meteors and it wouldn't have even cracked.
>Jackson has 6 trion to Osamu's 2, he would kill him in 2-3 volleys of hounds, no questions asked
No he wouldn't. What would happen is an extremely slow trion attrition war as Osamu just makes new shields every few volleys.
>a clear line of fire directly through one block
What are you talking about? Until the end of the fight, Osamu is playing peekaboo behind the containers. In fact, he even retreats back there once Yuma arrives and they're facing Katori. And the idea that Jackson could just shoot him through them is fucking retarded. We have seen two snipers with ibis take effective shots through cover at immobile opponents whose attention was elsewhere. If blind firing through walls in shootouts was effective, we'd see people a whole hell of a lot more skilled than Jackson doing it. Katori was there and has a gun. If it's so easy, why didn't she do it?

>>280930654
>grasshopper
ngmi

>>280925154
No, I know I would be a braindead attacker.

>>280930804
When Azuma-sama is on the map I will just run on the ground like a good little bitch with two raygusts in defense mode. Any cowlick that shows up gets two raygusts thrown in its face though, because its funny.
>>280930933
I need areal mobility that doesn't waste thruster and since I will want to use at least one trustgust all the times having it on both hands makes sense.

Dump anon die again?

>>280931047
He'll show up eventually

>>280931047
He’s giving us the true WT experience because the first chapter of the next volume was published with some rough pages due to Ashihara’s illness

>>280931107
Today is databook day isn't it?
I hope so, we need a break before the last haul.

>>280929301
I was thinking about a windmill attack but that would look too fucking funny with the standard shape. Although Yuma transformed it into a blade early on, I guess you can make your raygust look like a sword.
>>280929096
Kek at Amo being a battle autist. He looks like the type of person who looks intimidating but is a total chill guy once people get to know him better.

>>280930823
pretty much but Border haven't developed an areal assault meta yet, so the skies would be clear.

>>280929627
Even Satori knows you should not go for a double Ibis, that shit's too fucking huge and the recoil would probably fuck you up in a match.

>>280917294
Till which chapter season 1 adapts? Should I start with the anime?

>>280920723
Really?
I realized almost instantly
The quality drop between the canon manga content and that shitty arc was like night and day

>>280931355
136 according to the wiki, which is the beginning of the Galo invasion. There is a small overlap between S1 and S2 regarding this, but it isn't that bad.
I would not recommend S1 because the pacing and quality are mediocre, but some people enjoy it despite all that shit. Also, avoid the filler episodes (48-63), they are not good.

>>280931355
don't start with the anime
do not

Posting OC

>>280931828
This guy is playing a 2000s cover based shooter.

>>280931828
Two of these guys, a zoe, and a sniper for the full WW1 experience.

>>280931828
Escudo might be too much since you are a gunner first and foremost and your trion isn't good enough to be liberal with it. Otherwise pretty neat game plan, dig up and shoot shitters from inside, might want to swap to double hounds so you could drag people in your trenches by yourself. Even if scorpion has value up close with all that cover you have it feels excessive.
I would drop scorpion and asteroid for a free slot and a double hound. maybe escudo even but its a fun trigger that completes the set so maybe not.
Unless you actually plan to dig with a fucking scorpion shovel but at that point what are you even doing.

Can one use both gunner and shooter trigger?

What would be the most Counter Strike-pilled loadout in WT?

>>280931047
Was planning on dumping the databook, but that can't really happen until this thread is dead since anons have already dumped pages here themselves

>>280930654
>Double grasshopper
I don't see there being any benefit to that.
You're probably more capable of reaching the skybox with just one grasshopper and a bagworm or a constant raygust out, so people don't realize that's what you're doing or you can actually defend yourself.
Trying to chain otherwise is going to get you shot at and if its a skilled sniper, they'll wait to either shoot you during your Raygust swap when you are defenseless.

>>280932153
Inukai does that

>>280932088
Yeah swapping Scorpion for another Hound then dropping Spider might allow for more funny usage of Escudo. The more swapping a Gunner does the more the Trion drain is. Single bullets aren't too bad.

>>280932153
Yes. You can see Inukai with his gun and hound cubes at the same time when holding off chika's bomb run.

>>280932153
Yes, Inukai does

>>280932183
So I could always have a trustgust up, exactly for shitters shooting at me reason. The one limb that gets lost becomes a dedicated grasshopper hand and I wont suffer as much as Yuta or Kumagai. Redundancy and general comfort of use.
Grasshopper is there for excessive areal mobility but it also has another purpose, its for launching snipers into my thruster while I'm diving on approach. Get momentum from double thrust, start falling on target, create grasshoppers under the target. Kill it mid air for style points and crush into the building. Orgasm.

>>280932167
Quick question, are Databook and BBF the same thing, or two different things?

>>280932824
Same thing. BBF is short for Border Briefing File.

>>280932192
Is Inukai the smurf who doesn't show his real potential?

>>280932153
Assault rifle + shooter cube = fun.

>>280931187
Amo can literally see power levels, if anyone is interested in seeing what a good fighter can do is him.

>>280933138
Nah, he just got demoted. He doesn't pretend he isn't A rank material.