Why doesn't the harem genre have more harem endings?

>>281083610 (OP)
>>281020604
Soon

>>281083610 (OP)
Jokes aside, how would you feel in the opposite situation, you sharing a girl with other guys?

>>281083610 (OP)
Because a lot of harem stories are more like sportsball stories where the reader wants their favored girl to assert her superiority and win the MC-bowl.

>>281085944

>>281083610 (OP)
>Why doesn't the harem genre have more harem endings?
It upsets normies

>>281083610 (OP)
Most harems are not created as such.
They are created as soap operas/contest shows where you watch your favorite girl in the hopes she wins the MC bowl. Basically a marketing tactic.
And hell, creating a scenario where all girls are on board with sharing is pretty hard to naturally.

Harem endings only work if you can actually see the characters being into, like those girls from Mushibugyo, all three of them love Jinbei to death for his honesty, if he legit loves all three and they love him there's no worries of insecurity things like he went this route just because he didn't' want to hurt the other girls feelings or that he's a shameless pervert who thinks women are just collectables Jinbei was a true earnest dude to the core and the the story proved that time and time again so him getting a harem end complete with a shitload of children from each of the three women was satisfying and on brand from all those characters.

Sadly, light novvels are not written that foreward they only pull harem ends out of their asses so some crazy otaku won't burn their house down and shit in their osen out of rage that their favorite was slighted or that their favorite was picked and thus not pure anymore, you can never tell with those schizos. It's a pity Mushibugyo never got another season the studio seemed eager to do more even teasing an arc that was very far away from where the anime ended.

I think that dog fucker anime was also honest about the dude's intentions to get a harem and provide for them all but it's less taking it in earnest and more shallow wish fulfillment stuff

>>281086582
No, it isn't. Simply make the MC a high status male with wealth, power, good looks, and big hands. Women would rather share such a man than take a single subpar man they can be exclusive with, so it would make perfect sense. The real problem with harem stories is that the man generally isn't worthy of a single woman, let alone multiple. Fix that and you fix harems.

>>281085944
bad but it's not the same
one girl can only get pregnant by one of the guys
but one guy can easily have three girls knocked up simultaneously, so his attention being divided doesn't matter. Especially in the modern world when women are supposed to be working anyway.

you can easily convince me being in a society where lots of guys have three wives is bad
but you can't convince me having three wives would feel bad.

Same reason you should argue eating meat is wrong because animals have moral worth if you're a vegetarian, rather than trying to pretend meat tastes bad

>>281085944
Like shojo manga or am otome game?

>>281083610 (OP)
It makes people seethe

>>281083610 (OP)
Harem stories are rarely built where the MC is aware of the girls' affection or where he has time to consider the idea of polygamy. Usually, confessions are rushed into the final part of the story, forcing the MC to choose one out of pressure, or the story simply has a time skip and we are never told why the winner was chosen.

Also, many of these stories are just pseudo-harems where the chosen girl is exaggeratedly obvious from the beginning of the story and the rest are just there to fill tokens and sell merchandise, but they never really had a chance.

>>281085944
A key that can open any lock is a master key.
A lock that can be opened by any key is broken.

>>281085944
Gay if the manga is aimed at males. Fair if is aimed at females.

>>281086415
So do jeans commercials with conventionally attractive women, who the fuck cares if normies get upset if that's all it takes?

>>281087630
Because they're the majority and can/do ruin the hobbies you love

>>281087205
>pseudo-harems where the chosen girl is exaggeratedly obvious from the beginning of the story

I'd like to see a story where the final girl was a real surprise. Knight of Sidonia seemed like this to me, but it turned out to be the same trope with extra steps:

First chapter, the first girl MC meets will be the heroine, oh, it's so obvious.
Wait, they killed her, so there might be a surprise!
Oh, they cloned her, and the clone only responds to him, classic.
Wait, she died again! Okay, maybe the MC will finally find another girl.
Oh, some aliens cloned another version, and she becomes his arch-rival.
Oh, she died again. Time to find a new girl.
Another clone of first girl gave birth to a monstrous Bio Mecha-titan and she behaves like his daughter.
Well, that's new. Now maybe he can let go of the past and raise the monster girl like a good father.
The titan, only months old and with the consciousness of a little girl, falls in love with him and is killed.
Sad, time to turn the page.
A clone of the titan in the form of the girl from the first chapter is created, and her memory files are transferred to her. They get married and have children.

And believe me, there were many options in the story, but it seemed like the author and the protagonist were obsessed for the first girl. And the worst thing was that her personality was fucking boring, to the point that an asexual, a lesbian in disguise, a harem of clone sisters with accelerated growth, an android, and a 500-year-old woman were more interesting than her, at least when she was a monstrous mecha the concept was interesting, but even at the end they take that away from her.

By the way, the MC only spent a couple of minutes with the original girl, and it was enough for him to become obsessed with her clones, daughters, and biological human-alien hybrid granddaughters!

>>281085944
Unnatural. Goes against biology, entire point of harems is to spread your seed as far as possible. Reverse-harems is simply a depraved fetish.

>>281086356
Massive cope.

>>281087881
I need to reread sidonia, I don't think I ever had a good understanding of what nihei was going for in terms of tone the first time I read it

Does it? There seems to be WAY more harem ends now.

The debilitating effects of shit like Love Hina cannot be overstated.

>>281087081
>one girl can only get pregnant by one of the guys

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/RR-COMP-babies.jpg?strip=all&quality=100&w=1500&h=1000&crop=1

https://cdn.vanguardngr.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Twins-diff-fathers.jpg

It is not common, but a woman can release more than one egg and become pregnant by different men. I think the record is quadruplets: two identical twins from one father and two fraternal twins from two other fathers.

>>281087881
I always liked that the original descendant of the first girl (thru cloning, dna, memories, etc) was the eventual winner. To be fair, MC has legendary genetics, it would've been good (smart for the OG leaders that realize it) if he did do polygamy.

>>281088124
Isekai does many harems

>>281083610 (OP)
Because it's reserved for royalty and most of the protagonists are poor bastards.

>>281085944
If they are fun bros. Why not? And getting pregnant from different fathers at the same time is actually possible biologically and happened IRL

>>281089362
Imagine how much Tenchi pays for child support.

>>281085944
>>281083610 (OP)
Irrelevant. Harem is a genre of fictional 2D worlds with 2D characters written for indulgence. To go into what-ifs, or wonder about realism, means you've already failed. Failing to do a harem end is as bad as screwing up pantyshots. It means caving in to external influences.

>>281086356
ftfy

>>281085944
There are lots of shojo manga that do that shit

>>281083610 (OP)
Boring and safe

>>281085944
is it a male or a female asking that question?

>>281089685
No, an NTRfag suffers by being in a generic vanilla relationship where their wife/gf loves them and is faithful. Even if they’re alone they will cope and say that they were cucked by reality.

>>281089840
If else it's single-girl ends that are boring and safe

>>281083610 (OP)

>>281085944
You a;lready do, you just dont know it

>>281087039
I don't know why there aren't more series that feature actual historical figures who had actual harems. King Solomon ought to be in more anime. He was a chosen one, had a harem, and could summon demons.

>>281083610 (OP)
Because the harem genre isn't really harem. It's more like pick a girl among many kind of story

>>281087881
still mad it didn't go harem even though all of them lived together

>>281083610 (OP)
harem end you say?

>>281085944

>>281085944
Men and women are not the same. One man can knock up multiple women at once, one woman can only have one man's child at a time.

>>281083610 (OP)

>>281092327
>japanese have shit taste

>>281086582
>They are created as soap operas/contest shows where you watch your favorite girl in the hopes she wins the MC bowl. Basically a marketing tactic.
I think this is the biggest component. I don't hate harem ends, but they never feel rewarding. That's likely because they are all built like a competition - it feels like a cop out when everyone wins, with the exception for me being Sayonara, Zetsubou-sensei.

>>281092712

>>281083610 (OP)
Most of manga, but particularly those with harem stories, CGDCT, incest, delinquent girls interested in nerd kids, maids, servants, etc, are designed to a male audience craving for wish fullfilment and fetishes. But once released, they always find themselves against the reality of being incapable of leaving an inmoral concept as final message, and sadly in Japan (and most of the world) majority frowns upon these ideas, so it's a big no. That's why mangakas who ultimately defy conventions and actually follow the original idea are seen as brave madlads, while others who compromise are seen as cowards, but ultimately the true issue is that they shouldn't write stories considering these ideas to begin with.

I mean, even in shoujo or yuri they avoid these ideas not because of avoiding the heroine look as a slut, but because it's wrong to begin with, and at the end one prevails the romance bowl over the rest

>>281092327
The problem there is putting all of that in the last chapter instead of earlier.

>>281092712
In pic the readers were all demanding a harem end.

>>281083610 (OP)
harem start

>>281083610 (OP)

>>281094449
I really wanna like 100 girlfriends but I just can't and I'm not sure why.

>>281094437
>MC has a harem at the start but everyone goes their own ways and it's MC sacred of losing people or saying farewell to them

>>281094794
sounds sad

>>281094449
>Harem ends
>Can only pick one at the end
Bro?

>>281083610 (OP)
>Here is your digging tool, harem protagonist-kun
>Build a village with so many women in it that your spermanator needs a break and you have to hold on to the digging tool of infinite vitality just to keep up
>This is only the beginning

>>281092327
I'm really convinced at this point that people just want their never ending waifufaggotry shitfling.

>>281085944
only if she's pegging him and invites me to fuck him too

>>281087263
Most keys have multiple copies. Otherwise you're fucked if you lost your keys, like every lock comes with at least two keys.

>>281094887
>>Can only pick one at the end

>>281089791
Such as...?

>>281087158
this show is so fucking zased
dude just straight up told his wife he wants another one and he winds up having them both completely out of left field

>>281095033
the ED arc was dumb tho and lasted way too long.

Post the manga with the blond mother and daughter and the MC declares he wants oyakodon.

>>281095094
isn't that a hentai?

>>281087158
>+yuri
>one is child-like body
Ahhhnnn, the tear bubbles... delicious....

>>281095010
Most dicks don't have multiple clones.

>>281089607
The Masaki Household makes bank off of selling their carrots and Sasami's baked good in Seina's family's supermarket chain, if they even needed much money.
It's good thing his family is insistent on marriage, or Seina's youngest would be screwed monetarily.

>>281095094
But there's many with that description. Including hentai.

>>281095307
It was the one where the girl had twintails.

>>281094964
Did Nagi really have 100+ girls in his harem?

>>281083663
Does Hayato want an ending or to choose or is he some meta-representation of the audience or harem writer wanting harem hijinks to go on on forever and not make a solid decision or ending?

>>281093696
I suspect a lot of men are actually more monogamous than they think. If harem ends were actually more popular the market would deliver. As is I think readers self select into a particular vision of harem stories where the romance is set up like a competition. That the heroine prevails despite the competition is just proof of her devotion which just amplifies her desirability as The One and Only. implicitly readers enjoy the prospect of having options but ultimately want a girl that is fearless in the face of competition and competes anyway. I'd read a fundamentalist Mormon woman's memoir and the most surprising thing I learned was that the majority of men actually wouldn't avail themselves to their harem unless forced to be their religious leaders; once they were no longer pressured into shagging all their wives due to changes in edict they mostly all chose to be exclusive with their favorite wife. Perhaps harems are something that appeal more to sexual fantasy but not as much to romantic fantasy.

>>281095343
jesus christ, look at that fucking fluff

>>281083610 (OP)

The important part is that best girl is main wife and head of the harem.

>>281093199
Stupid comfy sexy manga

>>281092327
Damn, even the trap?

>>281096453

>>281096453
specially the trap

Is there a harem with a more extreme ending than Psycome?
Main girl died and two other harem members stay in prison. The winner, even though she's the best girl, only won because she was the only one left.

>>281085944
kino

>>281097041
does this really happen in the game? or is this a fan thing?

Death March ending is best harem ending.

>>281097151
Bad ending

>>281097041
>MC is the one man in a heroine's otherwise yuri harem
Is it time to post the harem manga where one of the haremettes has her own yuri harem and wants the MC to fuck her harem?

>>281087205
Motoko was best girl

>>281083610 (OP)
because harem is always bait to hook readers to yet another attempt at long running slop that only ends once the creators run out of steam

though i did see true harem endings from korea, so maybe it's just an issue with japanese creators specifically

>>281098014
>though i did see true harem endings from korea
Name 10 Korean works with Harem Endings.

>>281085944
>Jokes aside, how would you feel in the opposite situation, you sharing a girl with other guys?
I am sexist so this is a stupid question.
Also, I am fine with sharing her with a few traps that I get to fuck, too.

>>281087039
>Simply make the MC a high status male with wealth, power, good looks, and big hands. Women would rather share such a man than take a single subpar man they can be exclusive with, so it would make perfect sense.
This is anime and manga, not real life. Your 3DPD rules don't apply.

>>281095031
Literally just search up reverse harem on any manga site you fucking retard.

>>281094473
It's shit. What's hard to understand?

Harem endings are tricky simply because they require 3 factors to work:
1. MC must have a compelling reason to choose the harem ie his life, personal development and feelings must be set up in a way where they are tightly tied with those of the heroines, to the point choosing just one would leave him in an "incomplete" state
2. Likewise, the destiny of the heroines must also be tightly tied to the MC, not just "uguuu he was kind to me once" but something actually built up to during the whole story
3. This is where most authors fail: The heroines must have a tight bond of mutual respect and camaraderie built though the series, usually the most effective harem endings are those where the heroines themselves agree on the harem first instead of the MC pushing it onto them.
To achieve this the heroines must have agency of their own, not just be wish fulfillment cardboard waifus

Good examples where the criteria are met: Little tyrant, grisaia no rakuen, na kang lim, academy extra

>>281098050
I Killed the academy player
Webtoon character na kang lim
Surviving as the academy extra
Became the necromancer of the academy
Main heroines want to kill me
Fated to be Loved by the villains
Love letter from the future
The tin knight
Demon prince goes to the academy
Revenge of the iron blooded sword hound

>>281098774
thanks for adding to my list anon, i'm addicted to this slop
i'd also add demon limited-hunter
>Main heroines want to kill me
i think this author loves harems

>>281085944
I guess it depends on the situation similar to the typical female harem counterpart. You probably think this is some kind of own because of muh male fantasy or whatever but it's not. In the same way that a female harem isn't always the best outcome, a male harem isn't always the best outcome either but both can work and it entirely depends on the specifics of the setting.

>>281090359
>suffers by being in a generic vanilla relationship where their wife/gf loves them and is faithful
You are mentally insane.

Harem ending is offputting to many people. They should start by popularizing threesome endings with one male + two bisexual females.

>>281099518

>>281087009

>>281096145
>harems are something that appeal more to sexual fantasy but not as much to romantic fantasy.
pretty much & it's always been that way since many kings taking harem.
It’s never been “romantic”, it’s either a sexual fantasy to flaunt dominance or about survivability.
No one in their right mind does a harem for romantic reasons.
It’s not just men, I feel like people in general are more inclined toward monogamy.
Being in a relationship with one person is already complicated enough. Imagine having to deal with multiple people.
even in animanga harem seems to be treated more as sexual fantasy than genuine romance.
hell, most fervent waifufag otakus fucking hate harem because they hate to see their favorite girls get cucked/suffering.
>>281094964
I love how you put XB2 as good example when a lot of japs even disliked it because they feel they get cucked lol.

>>281099763
>when a lot of japs even disliked it because they feel they get cucked lol.
THey were delusional and angry, much like the NTRfags who complained and wanted NTR. Those who failed to see the writing on the wall and the NG+ title screens are asshurt and likely talked shit about all the players taalking about Rex's harem long before XB3 existed. They got what they deserved.

>>281097369
That's basically KmK in the end, she's got at least two willing bi-sluts and her man has 4 girls to fuck. We never get to actually see it come to fruition, just that they're all onboard.

>>281099305
Just imperial matriarchy I guess. Problem is how to actually handle it. Guy can fuck 5-10 on the regular dice rolling for the heir, how do you handle it in reverse?

Does every guy get to fuck her? Or is there a lock out period once he's sired an heir? (He's no longer able to fuck her, so he's just a stud and must now orbit and wait until every other member has had a kid). No one actually gives a fuck, the guys are bi and fine taking turns, kids are a non-issue. Clear favoritism starts to occur, fights ensue.

Many places it can still go that are still the same for female harems.

>>281087263
>here's this completely arbitrary made up bullshit analogy that proves mansluts are a-ok but sluts aren't
What a fucking idiot.

>>281083610 (OP)

>>281100264
This is just pure undiluted garbage and not even harem.

>>281100189
>here's this completely arbitrary made up bullshit that doesn't even address the analogy
What a fucking idiot.

>>281098328
Doesn't DxD have its cake and eat it too?
>MC is almost self insert level
>he's got hax tho, hax the girls want access to, thus share
>they're stronger/more accomplished than him most of the time

>>281100457
>MC isn't allowed sex
>LNs are just shonenshit and author's /m/ fetish
Is it time to post Yoh Asakura sleeping with Anna or UQ Holder's sex scenes?

>>281096271
You are a fucking degenerate.

>>281099932
nah, I think the harem in XB2 feels forced, and I'm saying this as someone who actually likes harems.
The thing is, the harem in XB2 would’ve made so much more sense if it were just Pyra and Mythra, since Rex clearly shows more intimacy toward them compared to Nia.
The game literally goes full "Boy Meets Girl" with Pyra and Mythra (even let you has choice to pick them), so Nia’s inclusion just leaves a sour taste in my mouth, ngl. It honestly feels like a pity choice.
>NG+ title screens
you mean they added that NG+ title screen just a few months before the XB3 trailer reveal? Come on, dude, that feels like a cop-out.
Sorry if I sound autistic but I've been following Takahashi's work since the Xenogears days, and he's never been the kind of writer to handle romance like that. It feels like he's selling out.
It's like he added the harem because he was afraid of upsetting a certain subset of fans, not because he actually loves it.
It’s especially jarring in FR, where it really feels like Pyra is supposed to be Rex’s true wife.
Honestly, I’m just disappointed with the series now. Between XB3’s story and how XDE was handled, it feels like Takahashi is playing it safe and trying to please everyone.
Anyway this is getting into /v/ faggotry so I stop talking too much.
A good harem, to me, is when it’s done out of self-fulfillment and fully leans into it (including the harem end), because there’s a high chance the author genuinely loves the genre even if it's slop.
Not like “Oh, they fucked offscreen, and now he has multiple wives,” or when the story feels like the MC will end up with one girl and has actual development with only one girl, only for it to suddenly become a harem ending out of nowhere. the latter just feels like cop-out
that's why good harem is on galge side because it was made by passionate people who loves the genre

>>281094437
>>281094887
> harem start

Literally this >>281094449, built as true harem manga for entire runtime instead of being just an endgame. Quite surprising it took so long to get one

>>281085944
I've oddly yet to read a shojo manga that ends with MC having a harem. Maybe that might change now that otome isekai is popular

>>281087881
I can think of a few where the ending girl was a surprise, 5Toubun, TWGOK, Negima, Ichigo 100% to a degree. Most of them had subtle hints along the way but featured other girls more strongly.

>>281100435
no hes right, in the analogy the key can open many locks is not a good key but infact just a nigger breaking through all the locks to steal whats behind them.

>>281097369
youre describing what zero no tsukaima should have been

>>281101113
So, does that mean MC who has harem/polygamy is committing NTR??
>>281100908
villainess trope is also very popular lately & there's a lot reverse harem in it too.

>>281101214
generally, in a harem manga, no, in real life, when you get that kind of cheating, it doesnt result in a big harem. what actually happens to keys that open many locks is that they leave behind broken relationships and children raised by single mothers.
worse if theres no offspring, since that means that someone is getting cucked by his leftovers.

My father is one of these subhumans. he is the opposite of a good person to his children but he at least regrets being led around by his dick.

>>281101271
Sorry about that anon.
My father was also with many women (even when he was married) and abandoned quite a few children around the world, but at least he was an excellent dad to me. I guess I have accepted to love him even though he may be a bad person.

>>281087081
>but you can't convince me having three wives would feel bad.
Challenge accepted.
Imagine a nagging nasty woman that doesn't shut up.
Now make it 3 times worse.

>>281101113
Stop deflecting. Key and locks are perfectly functional. The analogy doesn't mention anything about breaking things.

>>281100848
>Rex clearly shows more intimacy toward them compared to Nia.
He loves her, and all those guys. He subconsciously knows she's jealous of the attention he gives Pyra via that vision of her eith the professor he fights. He wants to talk to her more about her confession but she says it's not the time after battles. Nia is also a bisexual who wants to fuck Pyra and Mythra too.

>>281101661
>noo hymens dont get broken anon! bad goy
fuck off

>>281097041
....
wait....
This hole got fucked by all 3 of the guys in this pic?

>>281101760
I accept your concession.

>>281102166

>>281085944
Sharing is a valid reproduction strategy for women so they're instinctively okay with it. It isn't for men so they instinctively despise it. It's quite literally not comparable.

>>281088390
Literally the plot of Haruka's route in Little Busters.

>>281099590
Why are the women so big? Or the children so small, idk but there's something off with this

>>281083663
sooner

>>281094473
Extremely formulaic and repetitive.
Shallow characters and writing that hides behind "i-its a parody you're not supposed to take it seriously!" as an excuse.
Immature humor that wouldn't appeal to anyone above 20.

Quantity over quality personified. Fanbase is obnoxious too.

>>281083610 (OP)
dont end

>>281100848
Pyra literally entrusts Rex to Nia when she sacrifices herself to Jin and Malos. She's well aware of her feelings and has no problem with it.

>>281103393
What if you add yuri to it?

>>281099169
>Harem ends
>The harem is a mom with her daughters.
We need more like this.

>>281104989
100gf's already has yuri baked in though? Naturally that dude won’t mention it, since every time the series comes up he just gets mad and starts samefagging about how much he hates it

>>281085944
Some replies are talking about not accepting the reverse because of muh realism, but societies in which practices polygyny ends up in disaster for the most part. Even if the man is rich enough to raise all the kids, there would be fights among the wives and their offspring regarding what share of the wealth/power they own. It's possible to pull it off even with these obstacles, but realistically speaking, it's very unlikely.
Honestly, I just see it as a romantic and sexual fantasy. Whether you like male or female harems, just enjoy it to your heart's content.

>>281094473
>I'm not sure why.
I've been forcing myself, and stopped once or twice, but I've managed to stay on. My love for harems is strong. I think the biggest challenge is that there's a lot of talking in the manga with very little payoff. Either the jokes are too weak, or the talking was just too boring.

Japan only does mono-romances. It’s either a mono-romance, or a mono-romance with a 3rd wheel, or a mono-romance with multiple gag characters to jack off too. Actual harems are very rare outside of porn. The reason is: the absolute enslavement to Japanese moral law. The MC can never be greedy / selfish, can never make morally ambiguous choices, so therefore he’s normally not allowed to have more than one partner. This formula isn’t just for figuring out a single "winner" but is baked into the fundimental premise of the story, meaning there is a main couple from the start.

>>281083610 (OP)
Idk, but I cherish the ones I like and can find.

>>281083610 (OP)
>WHY SHOULD HE GET A GIRLFRIEND!?
>IT SHOULD BE ME!!!!
>NOT HIM!!!!!!
>I SAW HER FIRST!!!!!!
>ITS NOT FAIR!!!
>I HATE ALL MALES EXCEPT FOR MYSELF!!!!
>MARY SUE!!
>SELF INSERT!!
>POWER FANTASY!!!

>>281105525
The reasoning might differ from country to country, but I don't think Japan is uniquely mono. If anything, even if rare, I've seen more harems with harem endings in Japanese media than I've seen from other places.

>>281087263
The flaw in this analogy haremfags never want to acknowledge is that if harems were real, they wouldn't be on of the master keys. They would be a useless key that doesn't unlock anything.

>>281105536
I still find it amusing one of the best depictions of polygamy comes from a woman.

>>281087263
The function of a lock and key is that they are supposed to be designed for each other. You may also automatically get a few keys to go with the lock. This is because the previous key can get lost, or multiple people need to access what is beyond the lock, which is perfectly reasonable. However, a key that's specially designed to open lots of locks isn't a key, it's a lock-picking kit. You may need to call a locksmith to come with the kit to open the lock, but some kits are used to break and enter things they shouldn't. Should you do the latter, don't be surprised when you're called a criminal.

>>281099169
>laughter returned to the Shinjou household...
>Sinjyo
roru, rumao.

>>281106087
>words words words

>>281105916
I think NON is good overall. I haven't finished Adabana yet, but it's been great so far.

That said, she has made the only realistic (no isekai, or super powers, gag/cliche main characters, or slaves, just pure irl of some famous guy and his girls) successful harem that I can think of in animanga.

>>281106209
Concession accepted.

>>281105536
>shoujo
I don’t know anything about this manga, but if it’s shoujo it’s DEFINITELY not a harem. It’s the usual shoujo scenario of a super high-status guy with multiple girlfriends whom the protagonist falls for, and the who will truly fall in love with the protagonist and ditch the other women. I don’t have to have read the manga to guess what it’s about.

>>281106087
>a key that's specially designed to open lots of locks isn't a key, it's a lock-picking kit.
"a master key isn't a key, it's a lock-picking kit"

>>281106281
>I don’t know anything about this manga
Seems like you're right, you don't know anything about it. Don't insult NON's work without reading it first.

>>281106209
Are most haremfags just illiterate third worlders? It seems all they can do is copy-paste the exact same tired analogy every thread, and the instant you try to actually communicate with them they shut down, like they can't come up with their own thoughts.

>>281096027
Hayato says he likes one of them. The author said he had no winner in mind and will let the audience decide. The future daughter doesn't recognize the other girls in the photo so they don't stick around. This is not getting a harem end.

>>281106087
>>281106217
>>281106406
>The function of a lock and key is that they are supposed to be designed for each other.
No, they don't. It's up to the designer and its user.
>You may also automatically get a few keys to go with the lock...
Do you also get multiple copies of dicks used by multiple people to access the same hole? And you will never lose your dick, except you are from that group of people.
>lock-picking kit
No, it's not illegal. No one can sue you for lock picking your own properties because it is more convenient to carry a single lockpick than a bundle of keys. It's only illegal if you unlock someone else's property without their permission. And yes, lock picking kit that can open multiple locks with ease is a good "key", its legality is entirely up to its user.

Stretching key-locks analogy so you can easily dismiss it is just disingenuous. No analogy can work 1:1.

>>281099562
Source of top panel?

>>281107069
Rod master or something isekai

>>281087039
>Simply make the MC a high status male with wealth, power, good looks, and big hands
Or brainwashing powers.

>>281106406
>like they can't come up with their own thoughts.
Says the guy mischaracterizing haremfags as third worlders.

>>281107260
He doesn't have brainwashing powers. God, destiny, made it that way. He's as much brainwashed to love those girls as they are to love him.

>>281107265
Why shouldn't I believe that about them when the only argument they can ever make is repeating a stock phrase they didn't come up with themselves, and when challenged can only respond with "words words words" as of they think reading and writing are stupid and beneath them?

>>281107417
I already elaborated my post here >>281106860
And you conveniently ignored it.

>>281107417
It's a non sequitur, anon. Look it up.

>>281107528
Words words words.

>>281094964
I'm just playing this. Combat is kind of boring but I hope the story makes up for it.

>>281107572
Concession accepted.

Its already garbage, you wanna end it on a shit note too?

>>281099573
>that image
what is that KINO that I'm seeing?

>Harem Ends
Why not harem beginnings, middles and ends all in one story?

>>281107905
Already given example earlier >>281100899

>>281107905
Because in almost all media.
The relationship is not the medium, it's the end goal. Why do you think most romcoms are about the MC getting to confess, usually being the climax of the story.
And again, in harem manga/anime, polygamy is not the point. The point is a contest show where you tune in hoping your girl wins.

>>281108130
I'd rather it not be a hyper comedy, 100 Kanojo was more enjoyable when it was just the initial 5 girls.

>>281107905
Not only is the anime not even halfway done, but the MC already has two wives and kid by the end of season 2.

>>281108225
I actually feel the opposite, during initial 5 girls it was too "normal" and "restrained" for it's premise and character dynamics were too limited. It still gets more normal rom moments regularly, depends on the chapter format

>>281107604
Franchise have really slow pace beginning that drags for quite a while, then start to get interesting.

>>281083610 (OP)
I am not a fan of harems, even beyond
>>281085944
Dealing with that many relationships is exhausting. Plus, why wouldn't the girls cheat with someone else too?

What's the ideal number for harem?

>>281106507
>The author said he had no winner in mind and will let the audience decide.
Harem end

>>281108680
Three

>>281107905
Rod Master

>>281108789
Why though? Why not 4?

>>281103393
>Shallow characters and writing that hides behind "i-its a parody you're not supposed to take it seriously!" as an excuse.
>when the entire cast are a bunch of problematic weirdos openly acknowledged as having issues like Karane disliking being a tsundere because she can't be honest or characters so devoted to their talent they can't find fulfilment normally until they got romance

>>281108680
The exact number can vary but a small number is better than a constantly growing one. Every arc doesn't need to add a new girl.
That one needed some more. Just in that image it was
2/5 by the manga/anime end
4/5 by the WN end, and uncertain but possibly 5/5 in the epilogue
with some extras not in the image. The total size was fine.

>>281085944
It's against nature. A man can get all the women he wants pregnant. A woman can only get pregnant by a single man.

>>281085944
Does anyone have some (non full porn) one where there is a legit reverse harem ending

>>281108895
Because three is the perfect number

>>281083610 (OP)
Every harem needs a main wife who prepares the other girls with sex with the guy, who has lesbian sex with the other harem girls, who dominates the other girls and who organizes the sex schedule (sex with the guy, threesomes, orgies and lesbian sex with each other for the harem girls).

>>281108895
>>281109068
point in case

>>281109079
Interesting. Manga for this plot?

>>281109108
B-But muh sister and muh sensei and muh celebrity and muh lesbian!!!

>>281109079

>>281108902
Yes, shallow. Getting one meaningless piece of attention once every 200 chapters which doesn't even change the character does not make them deep or well written.
And that's supposed to be one of the original three characters, who has had more time and room to develop than any of the others, and still hasn't actually done any. All the other characters who didn't even get to join the story until after it had already become a crowded mess are even worse off.

>>281109137
I don't know. But it should be a thing.
>>281109243
I'm not familiar with your work. Is it a harem where the girls also fuck each other?

>>281109359
>Getting one meaningless piece of attention once every 200 chapters which doesn't even change the character does not make them deep or well written
>meaningless piece of character
>when the whole deal involves lots of chapters just haremettes interacting

>>281109359
I see your badly written bait and (You) it.

>>281109359
I am OP and I assume this anon thinks harems are ultra deep to the point any exploration on the archetype is the exception not the rule. Not to mention whole harems where nobody develops.

>>281103393
Rentarou from 100kanojo is the furthest thing possible from the typical self insert and is arguably the most charismatic and developed member of the cast despite being a harem series. The only good harem of the past decade (or arguably ever) is 100kanojo because it doesn't have losing girls or shitty drama, it sequesters cute and ecchi into different characters and it's legitimately funny by playing with the tropes of the genre..

Harem settings are inherently wish fulfillment to begin with.

If you make a harem story but choose to not make a harem end then you're just retarded, I'm sorry. Go get your brain checked. You used the setting to take advantage of the fact that you can shit out a bunch of girls for ez points and maybe even merchandising but then backpedal like a pretentious cunt because you think you're "above" harems.

The moment you added 3+ girls vying for the MC you lost the opportunity to act like a writer with self-respect. You plucked from the wishfulfillment tree and you can't put that fruit back. Eat it or forever be branded as an even bigger hack than you already are.

haremshit is mostly about milking chapters, they also aren't about romance (100kanojo being the exception)
romance needs relationship or at least dates if the characters are still too young (case of sukinako megane)

Lesbian main wife? Gotchu, anon.

>>281108680
Less than 3 is not even a harem
More than 5 is too many, characters start overlapping, individual focus becomes unachievable and the logistics become too messy
Between 3 and 5 is the perfect number

>>281109614
This. Even 100kanojo does more with its characters than TWGOK. Hahari's a crazy degenerate because what sane 29 year old woman would accept a teenage boy's advances. Karane when she isn't a tsundere admits she hates being one because she can't say what she wants to say or be honest with herself. Iku's a masochist because a sport shonen MC's determination is closer to masochistic insanity than normal. Etc.

>that one faggot crying that people were correctly saying 100 kanojo is sincerely better in terms of characters, plot and writing were are better than most action series

>>281109490
Putting 2 shallow characters next to each other doesn't make either of them deeper.

>>281109667

I like you Anon, you have a brain.

>>281109775
>shallow
Uh oh

The best harems are where everyone loves and fucks each other. None of this "sharing" nonsense.

>>281100899
Part of the reason why series like for example 100 kanojo is so well-liked and chill is they actually go that route, it's eliminates common romcom diseases like bitterness and frustration.
Coincidentally it's also of example of post-confession series, actually focusing on big harem love life with constantly expanding cast, though it being absurdist meta-comedy and full of insane characters helps with having infinite things to do after MC and girlfriends quickly get together.

>>281109775
>I will SAY it's shallow

>>281108707
I can't see anyone but the vtuber girl winning in this one. CFs exist to lose.

>>281106860
>No, they don't.
So there are designs of locks that don't have a function, a key, to unlock? Even a number code is the key to unlock something, doesn't have to be something physical to insert to it. I guess there are keys and locks that are just for show though, but that's an imitation of a key.
>Do you also get multiple copies of dicks used by multiple people to access the same hole?
A lock naturally has multiple keys, that doesn't mean women get multiple types of dicks. It means the analogy is stupid if you think about it for more than a second, because locks and keys don't work according to the analogy.
>My property
If your property has the exact same key used for everything you own, I worry about the safety of the entire property. Again, the analogy is stupid, because locks and keys don't work like men and women.
>Stretching key-locks analogy is disingenuous.
Ironic, because even the original saying is a stretch and is stupid. You have to ignore a lot of things for it to even make sense.
Again, the point isn't that getting multiple vaginas or multiple dicks in you is good or bad, I'm saying the analogy is dumb and can work against you if you think about it more.
I'm repeating myself so you really understand what I'm getting at.

>>281109775
Characters bounce off each other or thrive with interactions all the time. The reason why Frieren and 100 Kanojo did so well is because the characters at least had mutual feelings for each other but BA never even tried to expand on the sexual taboo nature between teacher and student relationships.

>>281092327
I still wonder what this is referencing since harem end are usually well received in their fandom, this image just feel like the author making shit up to shittalk other manga with harem end.

>>281109359
Dude, the milf alone undergoes huge change in her early arc.

>>281109665
>The only good harem of the past decade (or arguably ever) is 100kanojo because it doesn't have losing girls or shitty drama
There's a number of harems without losing girls (picrel), but I'ma use this moment to also throw in the series with the most girls I know of in a harem.

I warned you all how obnoxious the hyakkano fanbase is. Say 1 mildly negative thing about it and they mobilize like an army to derail the entire thread and demand everyone never criticize it again and acknowledge it as the greatest piece of media ever created.
Well, if you can even call like 2-3 people an army.

>>281109667
Based and true. Its why i respect harem ends far more because they were made without any pretense or thinking youre above harems

>>281109929
Different key as in two keys with different teeth combination, not its perfect copy, retard.
>because locks and keys don't work like men and women
Except it works. Literal absolute uggo landwhale can still have sex as long as she is willing to spread her legs, but only top 10% chad or oil prince can actually enjoy good harem.

>>281110024
Guy, you're more obnoxious than anything else by insisting shit without backing. They got arguments at least. You're behaving like a chatbot.

>>281109079
>prepares the other girls with sex with the guy
>who has lesbian sex with the other harem girls
> who dominates the other girls and who organizes the sex schedule
2/3 aint bad. It's not exactly as you said, but I'd say the main wife here has most of the control, and has even invited girls to have sex with MC.

This guy has a god tier harem, fucks all of them (except at the moment his 'mother') will probably remain a harem at the end

>>281109971
She starts off angry, gets brainwashed, and then spends every chapter for the rest of the manga being horny all the time for everything.
If you call that a deep, well developed character character I think you need to try reading more than one manga.

>>281109885
It will be a 3 tomboy harem.

>>281110286
>character has change
You haven't been reading much harem

>>281110286
NTA but having ANY sort of change like that is abnormal for harems. You think the tsundere childhood friend beating her man changes personality? Or that franchises giving a bit of character development for their arc then never doing anything with the character, to any capacity, isn't the norm or even above average?

>>281110335
He doesn't read much harem

>>281110367
Expected.

>>281110014
I like how the beginning of the harem to that was literally vampire girl needs blood, sucks a lot of blood from MC but MC has unlimited vitality, so ends up sucking so much blood that she turns into her sexy (naked) adult form, makes eye contact, starts banging each other hard every single night but turns out that MC with his unlimited vitality is too much for even vampire girl's libido when fulled up on blood, so tricks her angel friend into joining her so that angel friend ends up being banged every single night as well just so that vampire girl can actually get a bit of rest in between as a quick summary

Is it time for the isekai LN harems?

>>281087697
All they're doing getting mad is being free advertisement for me.
Pendulum is swinging, people now do the opposite of what the angry 35+ year old Karens screech about.

>>281110392
I kinda wish he had lest wives, I think 5 would've made the series extremely fun to watch/read.

>>281110416

>>281110416
Feel free to shill some best LN/WNs

>>281110192
How do you misunderstand me saying locks and keys don't work like men and women this badly? Locks and keys opening or not doesn't impress others or function in the way that can reflect real life. Whatever beliefs you have about real life is irrelevant.

>>281110392
Yeah, it was great and even continued, to where they got a group of elfs for him to bang, then oni maids, another vampire, more elfs, more angels, dragons, and now it's to a point where the MC is begging for men to enter the village 'cause it's too much sex even for him.

>>281110335
Any development is more than "none at all" which is what all of hyakkanos characters have.

>>281110485
Can't decide between amazonian elf and the warrior woman who'll take you by force and unwittingly rape you till you can't move every time she gets horny.

>>281110286
>She starts off angry, gets brainwashed, and then spends every chapter for the rest of the manga being horny all the time for everything.
>>281110517
>Any development is more than "none at all" which is what all of hyakkanos characters have.
The duality of man. One insists on heavy character change. The other insists on none.

I like how he insists he isn't the obnoxious one compulsively demanding higher standards for this one harem, which according to several responses actually meets but he can't see it.

>>281110504
>Whatever beliefs you have about real life is irrelevant.
Correct. We are talking about fiction so your lock pick argument doesn't work.

https://files.catbox.moe/6i2mka.jpg

>>281085944
Gay and cucked. I’d leave.

Multiple men with one woman makes no sense in multiple ways.

>>281110587
Same thing with the original analogy.

>>281110621
Nuh uh.

>>281109359
>>281109775
> Getting one meaningless piece of attention once every 200 chapters

Good move, exposing himself as shitposting tourist who doesn't even read the series. And the funniest thing is not understanding how the whole "character development" and "character depth" work regarding the context of each work. You don't know the way stories are constructed on basic level.

>>281110670
>>281106217

>>281109667

To be fair garbage isekaishit that do harems are still fucking shit

>>281097041
>is it finally my turn to nut a baby into my wife?

What a horrible existence.

>>281109359
100GF isn't doing it either, the original 6 still has more screentime than the newcomers. Singular characters later character arcs hit harder than the entire manga-length stories of many others. The starter tsundere had a better arc than most tsunderes in other manga.

>>281110228
>2/3 aint bad
Haren girls should be lesbian with each other. This reduces conflict and is hot to watch for the guy.
My idea for the main wife is also that she shows her dominance over the other girls also by dominating them in the sex act.
>>281109708
A lesbian main wife would be based but only if she prefers girls over boys but still loves the guy.
What's your series about?
>>281109848
This but it should only have one guy.

>>281110702
>>281107572

>>281110682
>Karane is tsundere!
>But sometimes, she's also NOT tsundere!
>"Woooooow 10/10! Absolute kino best harem ever created such a deep character!"

And she's supposed to be one of the important ones.

>>281110716
Has there ever been a mix of fujo, otome and yumejoshi targeted harem where most of the cast are bisexual men who are borderline 100% gay because they keep fucking each other and it's only after a massive orgy which they find a few of them penetrated the main heroine and her pussy?

>>281110024
Retard you just proved hyakkanofag point >>281105279 of being so butthurt about random harem series you can't stand seeing it even mentioned in positive context, instantly deflecting to "muh fanbase is hostile". What a pathetic faggot

>>281110716
Reminds me of the suggestion degenerate nobles in Heavy Object do where they take turns nutting inside a girl (often a spouse they pass around) and they bet on who's the father.

>>281110796
Boi. Even I could tell you're probably being insanely reductive.

>>281110395
Isn't this just routes?

>>281110736
>Singular characters later character arcs hit harder than the entire manga-length stories of many others
Only of ones that suck. The entire thing is above average, but it's already failed to make me care a lot for every single character when there are so many of them.

>>281110754
>This reduces conflict and is hot to watch for the guy.
When the girl can't handle the sex drive of the guy, and when the guy is having so much sex already that he doesn't want more, this doesn't really become a problem.

>the one haremette who fucks all the other haremettes and would've been a complete lesbian if it weren't for loving MC-kun

>>281110914
NTA but judging by your posts and insisting when others make actual arguments, it's not like your autism would be satisfied with anything but complaining anyways.

>>281110914
>Only of ones that suck.
To think we have waifufag wars in a manga where the whole deal is everyone's a big loving family.

>>281083610 (OP)
>every character gets the same development (date, kiss, sex) at the exact same pace as the other two
Probably the most harem of harems.

>>281110920
>"If Shido wants me, then I'll gladly give my everything to him. To become his lover, kiss him, have sex with him, marry him, give birth to as many babies as he wants, grow old together with him. But, even if Shido chooses someone other than me, I won't mind. If Shido thinks to marry Tobiichi-san, I'll bless him with all my heart. Of course, it also applies for other person as well. Even if Shido chooses Tohka-chan, Kotori-chan, Yoshino-chan or perhaps someone that I don't know. Of course, I don't mind if he doesn't choose to be with anyone, or even if he chooses everyone I'll support his wish. I'll do anything for Shido's happiness. If Shido wishes it, I'll grant any of his wish. I don't mind becoming his childhood friend, his lover, his wife, his younger sister, his older sister, his mother, his daughter, his superior, his subordinate, his enemy, his nemesis or even someone unrelated to him. As long as Shido is happy, I'm satisfied....Oh sorry, it seems I got too worked up by myself. But it is true that I don't mind whoever Shido chooses."

>>281110970
No I mean, the manga-length stories. I Should've added "Which isn't saying much" for more clarity I guess.

>>281110920
>males she likes
>Shirou
>nameless husband in HF normal where Shirou ded
>females she likes
>Artoria
>Medusa
>Luvia
>all the other millions of women Rin fucked

Can you fags just start shilling some harem manga/LNs?

>>281110754
Main wife is literally main wife, she has a husband and multiple wives.

>>281110970
WHOLE FAMILY

>>281086582
It’s not. Most authors are nerds though so of course they can’t pull it off.

>>281111043
No.

>>281110864
I'm really not. All the hyakkano characters are defined by 1 personality trait and nothing else. A typical chapter goes like this
>*thing* happens
>horny girl gets horny for *thing*
>tsundere girl gets tsundere for *thing*
>quiet girl is quiet for *thing*
>efficient girl is efficient for *thing*
>drug girl makes drug for *thing*
>other horny girl also gets horny for *thing*


And so on. Repeat until cancelation. At some point a lot of the girls don't even get a chance to do their gimmick because there's no room in the chapter.

from what i understand, he later gets another girl making it a real harem and even gets with queen at the end, so yes it counts.

>>281111200
He's still a faggot.

>>281111166
Boi. Judging by how you utterly failed to respond to most opposing arguments and examples, I don't have any confidence you interpret anything right, whatever there us to interpret.

>ICHIGO WHY ARE AREN'T YOU A POLYGAMIST?
>I'VE KIDNAPPED RUKIA AFTER INVITING HER OVER IN THE FINAL CHAPTER FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF MAING YOU INSEMINATE HER
>AFTER HER IS TATSUKI, RIRUKA, NELLIEL, AND EVERYONE ELSE
.YOU WILL BECOME THE HAREM KING ICHIGO, IT IS YOUR DESTINY

>>281111043
I'm not those anons, but I love harems, so here's my third shill:

>>281083610 (OP)
Soon

>>281111398
Fourth

>>281111398
>impregnates his mom early on
>has unprotected vaginal with his sister-daughter who calls him "ani-papa"

>>281083610 (OP)

>>281111269
>by how you utterly failed to respond to most opposing arguments and examples
What examples and arguments? The only tangible example they've brought up was the tsundere girl who sometimes doesn't like being tsundere. Every other post they've made has just been insulting me or saying "nuh uh ur wrong".

>>281111432
And fifth for good luck. Note that this one has a very large focus on world building. Maybe focuses on that even more so than the harem aspect, but I'd like to add that the harem itself is high class.

>>281111499
BOI. Read. All because you failed to read doesn't meant above don't exist.

>>281111499
>What examples and arguments?
Dude...

>>281111450
I don't think he'd be the type to sex his daughter.

>>281111499
See>>281110837

>>281111499
>Every other post you made has just been insulting everyone's intelligence or saying "it just is".
Fixed
>>281111563
>I think he'd be the type to sex his daughter because he did.
Fixed.

>>281111530
>>281111532
>>281111569
All butthurt, no answers.

>>281111597
>>I think he'd be the type to sex his daughter because he did.
Huh?! When did he do that? Is that outside the manga or something?

>>281111166
Wow, what an insightful analysis, lets reduce it even more to "things happen in the manga". You figured out that a partially gag manga uses recurring character quirks as part of its comedy and routine, truly a scholar. While of course ignoring that they all have numerous traits, get new ones, forms new and develop old dynamics, all while in different set of chapters formats.

You’re not exposing some deep flaw; you’re just showing your brain doesn't understand how basic structure of the media works to be entertaining.

>>281083610 (OP)
Unavoidable Harem Ending

>>281111626
>me blind and can't see
Boi. Read. Nobody spoonfeeds you except even when they do you can't see.

>>281087081
Actually the real arguments against Meat consumption are about how inefficient and bad for the environment it is.
Of course this is purely from a utilitarian point of view.

The asshurt anons tears remind me of similar salt I've tasted elsewhere. We must post more of the specific manga he dislikes to farm more tears.

>>281111657
>While of course ignoring that they all have numerous traits, get new ones, forms new and develop old dynamics, all while in different set of chapters formats.
It's not possible to ignore something that doesn't exist.

You faggots take words words meme too far.

>>281111724
But realistically, there's many plant-based growing methods that destroy soil or kill gophers and animals. At minimum changing the local environment in ways past animals living there are forced to adapt. And depending on what land there is, like soil too thin to support crops we eat but can sustain grasses livestock eat, it could be the most efficient use. There's also indigenous and old methods of planting and using animal bone marrow and stuff for fertilizer rather than all the industrial fertilizers of today.

>>281083610 (OP)
Harems are a hot fantasy but if you end the story like that it enters the Polygamy territory.
And polygamy is absolute nigger behavior that shouldn't be glorified

>>281111708
I've read every post. No specific examples of any character have been listed besides the tsundere who is sometimes not tsundere. You know you haven't posted any others which is why refuse to just quote them again and will instead repeat "read the thread" over and over again until you hope I get tired and stop responding.

Is this a manga that makes the autist angry? The MC has many girls after him and it's a gag manga.

>>281096284
Harem love doesn’t exist, btw. You can’t really love three women, and three women can’t love you. Harem’s work when the situation is mainly transactional and not affection based, which is why kings had a main wife and cum dumpsters.

The system is kind of making a comeback as the concept of love dissipates and people become much more individualized, selfish and materialistic. Women will use men for their resources, and men will use them for their wombs. Praise Allah is the punchline, I guess.

>>281110919
A harem without lots of lesbian sex is boring. Girls are build for bisexual sex inside of harems.

Harem ending

>>281111808
Boi. Anyone can just blindly say they've read everything when they haven't addressed squat and especially when they failed to address anything so hard it's obvious it's his own problem he can't read words. You're just saying you did while giving no evidence you've done as said, even giving evidence of the opposite.

>>281111808
>I've read every post.
Press X to Doubt

>>281111828
>You can’t really love three women, and three women can’t love you
Does he know?

>sisters
>they fuck each other
Every time

>>281111950
Being willing to fuck a woman while she does on you unconditionally isn't love.
This aspect of romance generally confuses the horny harem fan, who's life revolves around masturbating and nothing else.

>>281111043
>Can you fags just start shilling some harem manga/LNs?
there's a WN about a Vampire with three wives its powerfantasy slop and it turns to shit when he starts fucking all of his own female family members.

>>281083610 (OP)

>>281111902
>>281111920
So do you fully admit you're just trying to waste my time with non-answers until you hope I stop replying?

>>281112095
See>>281112095

>>281112095
>Anon intentionally accusing everyone else of his own actions to farm (You)s

>>281083610 (OP)
Will this be a harem ending?

>>281083610 (OP)
How do you escape this terrifying situation?

>>281112052
>he doesn't know

>>281112130
>>281112140
Alright you win. You can respond one more time to this with whatever smug response you want and the last reply will be yours, if it means so much to you.
Enjoy your dead shallow manga, bye.

>>281085944
It can exist in fiction, I wont be reading/watching it though.

>>281112077
I don't know the series, but it seems more like that ending where the two love interests end up married to each other, while the protagonist is left alone (I don't know if the dark-haired character is a girl or a boy)

>>281112345
Haremettes fuck each other all the time.

>>281085944
I have a friend, she’s very attractive, charming. She’s got two boyfriends, wanted me to be her third. Made an attempt at seducing me for it, had to turn her down. Felt weird and gross.

Need more earned harems desu

>>281111734
>It's not possible to ignore something that doesn't exist.

Wew, dismissing an argument with “nuh uh” and a smug one-liner — the classic shitter equivalent of plugging their ears and yelling “LA LA LA.”. You sure skilled in losing even when shitposting.

Here is the simplest example for you:

Shizuka starts the story with communication issues — she avoids using her own voice, which was worsened by her mother causing her a trauma. Over time, thanks to her experiences in the harem and support from Rentarou, she gradually opens up and uses her own voice more. Eventually, she reconciles with her mom, repairing their broken familial relationship.

That same Shizuka is also a hardcore book lover. Later on, a new girlfriend is introduced — a fairy tale author who uses her stories as a way to battle despair. They form a dynamic, and this inspires Shizuka to start writing her own stories instead of just reading. Shizuka now an amateur writer. Oh, and she also became addicted to Monster Energy.

But everything I written is naturally wasted on seething disingenuous tard that can't analyze a simple harem.

>>281112345
This is how Chinese yurifags think.

>>281112428
He hasn't read until the shizuku mom arc because he can't read.

>>281112402
Worth noting she has a bit of financial sway over at least one of them.

This harem shit only works if you have money

>>281112460
Wow, you need more for women. SHOCKER!

>>281083610 (OP)
I am yet to meet a polyamorous person who wasn’t either zooted out of their mind, constantly having an existential crises or both,

>>281112406
Sixth? I lost count.

>>281112503
Inb4 some virgin says that harem shit isn’t polyamory

>>281111950
You always end up gravitating to one over the others. You will not succeed in dividing your time equally. They will age differently, they will have more or less appealing personalities. And a woman that loves you will not want to share you as it is embarrassing and in her mind stupid that she’s investing her time to just be one of many when she could have a single partner of her one.

Things are considerably more intimate with just two people. This is the same with sex. Threesomes are tiring and waay too much work with very little intimacy, because as soon as you try to really hone in on one woman, you are isolating the other. This is the same in general for a harem.

So basically you have to either create a heirarchy, like a king and his cumbuckets, or distance from all the women. Because giving them equal affection is impossible.

>>281112450
I mean sure, it's all low-effort seething. Still don't get why whenever he sees this series mentioned outside of the designated threads with even a hint of positive context - he gets this absurdly upset. Though it's hardly unique case for /a/

>>281083610 (OP)
Because the propaganda has run deep. I'm fine with it being niche though, since I don't pick up fake harems in the first place.

>>281083610 (OP)
There's stories haremettes whore their man out or use them to dominate other girls
>You can't even please him like I can!
>Oh, you want his cock because I've gotten you addicted? Beg harder!

>>281083610 (OP)
I want a harem where the entire harem wants to force the MC into polygamy.
>"A real man should be able to handle many girls! What kinda wimp only has one? I ain't wanting a boyfriend like tha!"
>"I only go for the worthiest of men. To fail to attract even two or three men means they are beneath me. The worth of a man is judged by the size of his harem."
>"OHOHOHO! Don't you know kings and emperors and sultans have harems? I'm not interested in lower-class peasants and their monogamy."
>"See that pretty 1000yo virgin dragon over there? You woo her, you bring her, you bang her. If your cock isn't inside her by tonight, you're sleeping on the couch, mister."

>>281083610 (OP)
>NOOO SAVE ME FROM POLYGAMY!!!!

>>281112803
Has there ever been a manga where the MC wants a monogamous relationship but every heroine wants him to have polygamy? I don't mean like Rosario Vampire where Moka opposes it but everyone else wants it or TLR Momo's harem plan, I mean everybody wants it except the MC.
>Chapter 1
>love confession from the girl he likes telling him to date her and all her friends
>MC goes through enormous loops to avoid this
>all the girls enact massively complex plans to force him into polygamy
>every time a new girl is added to the harem she too wants polygamy initially or over time
>MC has a sex scene with a heroine
>every now and then she says she has to get something, leaves and returns super quick
>curiously high sexual stamina too
>afterwards it’s revealed the girls were disguising themselves and fooled him into dicking all of them at once when he thought he was only having sex with one girl

I just got tire of coming across interesting female characters who I instinctively knew would never really amount to anything other than a backup cumrag for whatever soulless mc she had the misfortune of being paired with because even the losers in harems aren't allowed to move on from their crush once the mc gets with the main girl instead of polygamy end.
It's actually really depressing when I think about it. Basically every harem treads over the same themes over and over, and naturally the other girls will be cheapened or villainized in order to prove a very cliche point.

>this girl represents a false ideal, this girl represents reality! this girl is honest, that girl is fake!
>this girl is the most like a REAL Japanese girl, the others are fanservice gaijin otakubait!
>this girl has big boobs and is dummy, this girl is flat and smart!
>this girl is too affectionate and cheerful, thatgirl is serious and responsible!
>this girl is too forward and immature and possessive, that girl is mature! Koi and Ai!
>this girl is the easy one, that girl represent challenge and growth! this girl is love that girl is lust

I just can't give a fuck any more. Even if it doesn't fit the characters at all, they'll STILL find some way to force it in. There will always be that scene of the girl who suddenly goes into slut mode and shows him her boobs tries to hop on the MC's dick but then he says no way fag, then the writer's favorite wins instead. Dumb ass genre. We need actual harem.

>>281112836
I'm genuinely more interested in seeing the adventures with gay barbarian and Magic Ojisan.

Yeah, yeah, homo, whatever you say, but after reading a few isekai it gets boring seeing the same party and tropes.

>>281086582
>They are created as soap operas/contest shows where you watch your favorite girl in the hopes she wins the MC bowl.
The first girl wins 99% of the time so what's the point?

>>281112836
Give this isekai

>>281083610 (OP)

>>281110485

>>281111701
I doubt Seo will go that route, he already dismissed it earlier.

I want Yuri harems to take over. Het harems are boring because the girls just suck off the MC & never want to fuck each other.

>>281113202
That's what he wants you to think in the time loop manga.

>>281113202
Do you think this Seo will end in harem?

>>281113202
Yuri can destroy the world.

>>281113232
>never want to fuck each other.

I feel like yuri dynamics in het harems aren't uncommon nowadays.

>>281113232
Even High School DxD is getting in on the Yuri harem trend.

>>281113015
God, I hate this, especially when the author presents better options in later chapters, but gets hung up on the first option.

It doesn't matter if the protagonist has better chemistry with another girl, the girl from the first episode has to win.

It's time for Saekano Eriri losing on her own route.

>>281086582
>scenario where all girls are on board with sharing
Just make them gay, duh.

>>281113394
Zekka alone is better than all dxd heroines desu

>>281113394
They are late. This LN had the heroines fuck each other and the MC several times. By the end, they are so used to giving double blowjobs that they instinctively nudge out of the way to give each other space and gladly lick each other's tongues while they lick and suck. One time during a double blowjob, the MC pulled baack just to see what happenes and the two girls started kissing. And this includes the girl who loves sucking his dick so much that she refused to stop sucking even after he filled her stomach with his semen. He only managed to convince her to stop once he promised to cum inside her vagina next.

>>281112503
Polygyny only works when women have no rights and no safety, unfortunately they have both, but when the nuclear apocalypse happens men will get to live out there harem dreams.

>>281086582
>And hell, creating a scenario where all girls are on board with sharing is pretty hard to naturally.
They're like a family in blood or treat each other like sisters. They already share as a family so they're used to it.

>>281101271
>in real life, when you get that kind of cheating, it doesnt result in a big harem
There's that one black guy with a Latina harem of like 5 girls on Instagram. None of them are above a 6 but he still has 5 of them

>>281113529
picked the fuck up

>>281113395
Yuuna was the absolute worst with this. The author built up a harem ending & then just shit on all the other girls.

>>281111808
I too am a samefagging falseflagger who replies to himself with bad arguments so I can destroy that side and make the opposition look better.

>>281113015
But she might not!
Read 100+ chapters and find otu

I like the part where Micha thought Ange was being too big a bitch and thought about getting a dildo and taking Ange's virginity to correct her personality. And the part where she instructed the MC to fuck the cat sensei to dominate her.

>>281113625
It has NTR shit and he fucks a twink up the ass. His Love Interest gets fucked up the ass by another man as well.

>>281085944
do you know how exhausting one woman is? not just emotionally but sexually too. at times insatiable, just one is more than enough

>>281113973
All women aren't a monolith, all men aren't a monolith.

>>281111092
Reminder that Asuka fucks Rei.

>>281086582
> And hell, creating a scenario where all girls are on board with sharing is pretty hard to naturally.

If you make setting supernatural to some degree, exaggerated or comedic it isn't that hard. Like >>281113577 said any kind of family and tight group of heroines being together for some times is prime setup for achieving a true harem series. Of course if entire series is about girls viciously competing for MC cock it significantly reduced chances of becoming true harem, at best you get routes.

>>281113879
>His Love Interest gets fucked up the ass by another man as well.
>he doesn't know

>>281114065
>he doesn't know
?? Did time get reversed or something because I'm quite sure when I read it she got fucked by another guy, but it has been a very long time since I read it.

>>281086582
The girls are competitive to the point they need to compete to be happy. Therefore they arranged so they'll always have steady competition with each other forever in a harem.

>>281086582
>And hell, creating a scenario where all girls are on board with sharing is pretty hard to naturally.
Follow the historical route, create a period novel set in a caliphate or ancient empire, focus on the dynamics between the concubines, leaving the husband as a mysterious figure. He calls and attends to each one in private. After sex, this is the only time he listens to their needs, and depending on his mod, he can fulfill them or ignore them. Focus on the internal power struggles and alliances between concubines. And if you want to give the plot a central axis of action, kill the first wife to create a sea of intrigue and fight for the position of the new first wife.

This way, you'll get a realistic and even interesting harem story.

>>281113879
dropped

>>281113015
What if first/main girl wants MC to fuck other girls too and has official doujins of threesomes?

>>281114323
>Follow the historical route, create a period novel set in a caliphate or ancient empire,
Japan used to allow polygamy until the end of WWII. China also had polygamy until recently. I don't know when China abolished it. Either after the 1911 revolution or after the commies took over.

>>281114323
Is it time for breast feeding isekai?

>>281114600
>>281114323
It would also work in an apocalyptic/survival setting as well.

>>281114586
>official doujins of threesomes?
I recall reading them and i certainly don't remember a threesome one

>>281114623
No, Walking Dead showed me that my wife could plot my death, just to avoid being called a whore and keep my gun.

Oyakodon?

>>281085944
Women are naturally bi. You can't compare it to men.

>>281115050
For real? I've seen a shimaidon, but not an oyakodan outside of hentai

>>281085944
Have you ever tried getting pregnant?

>>281083610 (OP)
Why doesn't the battle shonen genre have more endings where everyone ends on a tie?

>>281115200
Your welcome.
https://www.novelupdates.com/series/the-story-of-a-man-who-is-reincarnated-as-the-sittiest-guy-in-a-doujin-but-the-heroine-keeps-on-coming-close-to-him/

>>281114885
You could get poisoned by your wife in any setting, but in an apocalyptic setting where survival is a luxury woman will flock to stronger men and are more willing to share.

>>281115405
Oh yeah, I do remember that one. Considering it's an Isekai into a hentai, it makes sense.

>>281114623
No, historical harems worked because laws protected men, while women were used as currency. So if a wife cheated on her husband, she was immediately punished, serving as an example to other women not to try something like that, making it easier for them to accept life in a harem.

In a post-apocalyptic world, there are no laws, so everyone has to watch their own back. Even a friend might betray you if they have to decide between you and their own life. For example, at any moment your harem of just two women could betray you while you sleep and steal your resources if they think they can be better off without you or if there is someone with better resources. Think about it, there is nothing that can stop them.

Harems aren't impressive on their own, getting every member pregnant and raising the kids? That's the real shit

>>281115620
Raising kids is for losers. Real chads make others raise their offspring while they just make more kids.

>>281115200
>oyakodon

Hmm, aside from Hahari and Hakari from 100kano I struggle to remember any canon oyakodon amongst decently known series. Especially if we not searching amongst isekai and full blown ecchi smut.

>>281085944
I'd leave because that's retarded on multiple levels, having multiple wives is draining but it isn't retarded like the inverse you're presenting

>>281115792
You know what else is for losers? Being an adult virgin and jerking off the drawings of women because you can't talk to real ones.

>>281094473
It's fans never miss an opportunity to tell everyone about how it's the most objectively perfect piece of media in all history and every aspect of it is so superior to every other manga.
You probably saw them do it so many times it subconsciously gaslit you into believing it too, but then when you read it yourself and see how mediocre it is, it creates confusion.
Kinda funny isn't it? They try to brainwash everyone into loving their manga just like every girl gets brainwashed into loving the MC in the manga.

>>281117368
>but then when you read it yourself and see how mediocre it is
nta but i share the sentiment, the MC just gets a free pass on alot of things and from what I've seen he's the typical self insert faggot for losers and cucks, explains why the fans are so fucking retarded.
>It's fans never miss an opportunity to tell everyone about how it's the most objectively perfect piece of media in all history and every aspect of it is so superior to every other manga.
i find myself seeing more of these "groups" that latch onto a character/game/story and defend it obsessively from even the most tame of criticisms

>>281083610 (OP)
I only see fit the harem ending in hentai, with a big impregnation orgy in the end.
If it's not hentai, harems are pure crap

all harems should have at least 1 loli

>>281109885
CFs deserve to lose for all the bullying in the past, although the MC is a pathetic fag who's into submission

>>281099573
So they had a lesbian marriage but had the way older guy to impregnate them both, right?

I'm suprised that lots of female harem manga are draw by women.
I do wonder if they really are into it

>>281095885
>>281094964
harem is cumming back. though XB2 left off in an open end about whether MC shota fugged the swords. but sequel did confirm that he fugged them all.

>>281110505
not sure if this counts as a harem anymore since farmer bro is being used as a semen donor at this point. and the beastie boys grew up and became his adopted sons, but instead of fugging the elves, they ran off to fug demon grills.

>>281113195
>The Villainous Noble Loves Mom Heroines Too Much ~Becoming The Strongest With Sincere Effort To Save Misfortunate Fave Chars~Chapter 18.2

he should fuck the sword.

>>281117368
I thought you went away kek >>281112269 Mentioning this series really triggers your autism, fucking hilarious

>>281117980
Is it really that surprising?

Mushoku Tensei is the best when it comes to non-comedic harems(Like 100 kanojo), Followed closely by Umi No Misaki.
Note this is only for the harem aspect not the series as a whole.

MT is peak fiction.
Umi no Misaki is pretty good as well

I need a DoA XVV harem manga by yesterday!

>>281117843
That's a given

>>281117843
Plot twist, the entire harem are lolis

>>281118911
That artstyle is so shit.

>>281113604
exceptions prove the rule. the only people who can keep harems have an enormous amount of wealth.

>>281119557
>keep harems have an enormous amount of wealth.
Don't disagree here. You need money to keep one woman, let alone 2 more.

>>281119587
its not really about the money or anything. you need to be at the top. a woman cant think there is a slot above you she can or should take. she would easily betray you. that wealth isnt for making her happy, its for making sure she doesn't leave or betray.

>>281119619
You keep her their with violence and manipulation. As a matter of fact, a harem of paraplegics wouldn't walk out of your life.

>>281090620
This one still hurts to think about.
Mizore and Ruby can cope, since they love Tsukune, but can also recognise the sincerity of his feelings for Moka enough to respect his wishes. Eventually they'll come to terms with it.
Kurumu, though? Since succubi in-universe literally live on affection, being the third wheel in a love triangle is spiritually and physically crippling Kurumu.

>>281087263
This analogy is retarded because there's no similarity between a key/lock and a dick/pussy other than their shapes.

If locks were protruding like a penis and keys were hollow like a vagina: the vagina-shaped object would be a master key, the penis-shaped object would be broken.

Surprised Tenchi isn't brought up more. It's the granddaddy of all harems and depending on the continuity, it does actually have a harem end. I think a lot of Tenchi fans don't particularly care for that outcome though, they enjoy the harem antics but primarily want to see Tenchi end up with their favored girl.

>>281117980
Harem stories are a good excuse to have a lot of prominent female characters in a story. If you are a woman that prefers drawing female characters or just prefers writing female characters harem isn't actually a bad genre to work in. Female characters in other genres are much more liable to be overlooked.

>>281114323

>>281114323
IMO this is the only way it works. Apothecary Diaries and more recently, Eunuch of Empire have storylines focused on harem intrigue

>>281120143
I'm into tenchi because of the juraian and space opera lore, the harem is just the icing on the cake

>>281087039
Not even royalty had universally healthy harems. And then you have all the inheritance bullshit to add onto it (using kids as pawns, gacha rolling for an heir of the right sex that lived to see puberty and THEN of the right temprament, all sorts of other stupid shit)

>>281118620
Do Roxy & Sylphy actually have lesbian sex with each other at some point?

>>281112942
Women's romance novels turn out entire series based on pairing up the leftover losers. I guess it only works for that demo but I think it could be nice to see in other types of stories.

>>281106209
Would you actually take whatever is locked up beyond the door or is just opening it satisying? Because if it's the latter you're pretty sad. And if it's the former you didn't have anything that was yours in that door to begin with

>>281114586
To be fair this is a very used goods fmc, asking her man to remain loyal to her while she gets constantly railed is too much

>>281111822
Even Roboco strongly implies that there are specific monogamous pairings that are more or less fated to happen once the characters get old enough to seriously pursue them. I liked Bondo best with the tomboy childhood friend but she isn't winding the Bondo-bowl. Madoka is winning the Bondo-bowl, Akane is getting with Gachi Gorilla. The harem stuff only exists for comedy.

>>281113323
That Otaku better be ready to take responsibility for making both girls fall in love with him, there must be a happy end to the gals

>>281098367
Just admit that otome manga with an harem end is rarer than unicorns.

>>281120351
It's implied in the WN at least that Roxy does lesbian things to Sylphie during their threesome.

>>281120143
the problem with tenchi is it was undercooked. it was absolutely the right time to release it but it was the wrong move for how done the story was. the continuity was a mess.

Curious now, anything in manga/anime that has a similar dynamic to the primary trio in Empowered? The MC isn't the dude, it's one of the girls (the nude blond). She gets with her boyfriend at the very start of the story and later invites her best friend (the dark haired girl) to live with them and they grow closer. The romantic conflict isn't about which girl will win but whether or not the second girl will actually formally become a part of the relationship.

>>281120865
This. Tenchi franchise is always feels like it's missing some crucial bricks under it's foundation.

>>281110395
doesn't count

>>281120951
having rewatched it, it really is an OVA anime with all of the meat in side stories and non canon continuities. you pretty much have to imagine the show happened.

>>281114639
Cross Make

>>281118911
Supernatural rapist loli who's secretly older than most of the cast?

You guys might be interested in this one? Female lead essentially has a netorase fetish and she likes to give her "bf" to others before she "takes a bite" out of him.
It's kinda a harem? Biggest downside is that it's a shounen manga and not a real erotica. Thus the theme is toned down and analogous: MC and FMC aren't actually dating but do like each other (as is common in shounens), no one does anything explicitly sexual, and the girls are vampires and wolves. FMC is into other girls "taking a bite" out of MC and then biting him herself. "His blood tastes the best right after someone else has drunk it".

Anyways, not quite a harem nor that explicit, but I figure those that like harems, might be into reading about this cuckqueen and how she enjoys her meal time.

>>281122049

Reminder: NTRfags need professional psicological help

>>281119690
It did in a soft harem route Moka's dad even sympathizes with him as a "fellow polygamist" when the harem antics were getting rowdy
It also ended in a mother possessing and ntring her own daughter but whatever

>>281122049
That's just promiscuous with extra step.

>>281122562
For the guy, it's normal blood feeding. It's only a perverted thing for her. He's not being promiscuous.

>>281112503
>constantly having an existential crises
Why would that lead to polyamory?

>>281112942
>Koi and Ai!
What's the difference?

>>281109051
I was hoping Katerina's show would end with the full bisexual reverse harem after S1 but apparently it swerves into just the main blonde guy only.

>>281124512
>I was hoping Katerina's show would end with the full bisexual reverse harem after S1
Why?

>>281124660
>Why?
Something new for a change after the first season set it up.

>>281122049
I want to see a series where each heroine loves the MC but wants the MC to be with the other girl. It could be because they think the other girl would be a better partner. It could be financial reasons. Maybe the heroines has an NTR fetish. Each heroine must plot and plan and enact 5D chess plans to make the MC fuck the other girl all while trying to control their own feelings. It'd be like Koi to Uso with mind game battles.
>Aha! I've locked the two in the locker room! Now they're guaranteed to have a moment together!
>Since when were you under the impression MC-kun was with me? I only made it look like he's locked here with me! He's outside with you all along!
>Not so fast! I'll just tell him you're in trouble and he'll bond with you rescuing you!
>But I would have escaped through my secret exit! You don't think I would have let myself be locked here without a backup plan?

>>281120143
tenchi stopped making sense after the 2000s
i don't know how anyone can follow what's going on in the anime

>>281122049
There's IRL girls who use other girls to "test" a man or go after girls who've had boyfriends because they've been "tested" and evaluated by others first.

>>281122049
What about netorase loving heroines who love it so much that they cross other universes and have collabs with other franchise for the sole purpose of getting MC's dick into more girls during threesomes?

>>281083610 (OP)
99% of harem authors aren't writing harem manga, they're writing romance where the only way to keep readers interested but not advance the relationship is to introduce more throwaway side girls.

2D isn't 3D. Kill yourselves.

Especially /pol/tards. >>281111796

>>281089840
>>281101113
>>281111796
>>281111828
>>281112534
>/pol/tards, normalniggers or just retarded contrarians
Kill yourselves.

>>281083610 (OP)

>>281127475
sauce

>>281127617
>he doesn't know

>>281121939
>that VN
The most unforgettable horror porn game I've ever played. No other game had a bunch of elementary schoolers gangbang a teenage girl against a wall. And the teenage girl loved it. No other game I've played had a 17 year old bishonen guy drink a 14 year old girl's piss and chase her down the hall to rape her, only to wind up getting anally raped by a 32 year old fat man. I still remember the scene where a 16-17 girl was hiding under a bed as her same age best friend was having sex with that same 32 year old fat guy on top. She heard every moan, bed shake and sound. In the wrong end she was discovered under the bed by her friend and made to join. A most terrifying scene was when an unwilling girl relives another girl's sex memories. The girl in the memory consented but the reliving girl didn't. It didn't matter that she was mentally screaming, her body in the memory did all the motions and actions as in history. It's like mind control rape except the victim was fully aware. Another scene the same girl and a friend were almost raped in a magic sex ritual, saved by the girl's older sister, and the backlash made the older sister want to rape her younger sister and friend.

The loli in your pic is freakishly lewd and once disguised herself as a teenage girl, fucked a boy until he nearly came, transformed back saying
>You thought you were having sex with a highschooler weren't you? I'm an elementary schooler all along!
And leglocks that boy, forcing him to cum inside her unprotected, when he screams in fear upon learning this. This isn't even getting into the tentacles, the gay sex, the lesbian sex, the incest, the sequel's mother/daughter lesbian scene, etc. The first chapter alone contains lots of lesbian sex scenes with an unavoidable girl masturbating in the bathroom. Truly horror is intrinsically connected with sexuality.

>>281109079
Thats more like a concubine secret agent/HR

>>281128222
the pasta continues

>>281105374
The only good answer
In a perfect world with the perfect people who won't get jealous easily it could work, but irl is messy, even if the harem doesn't ever want to have kids.
Poly endings should happen in 2d purely because every ship wins in the end, nobody wants to see the main girl that half the audience agrees is shit win.

>>281109079

>>281109079
Pic took her boy's virginity then taught him to fuck other girls.

>>281083610 (OP)
What I hate about this panel is that left is 100 tiers above the other two, no contest.

MILF harem bump.

>>281108707
tomboy wrestler win.

>>281128853
which manga?

>>281129703
>implying Karen isn't the best

>>281085944
I'm not even gonna entertain it. Female and male social dynamics are different. A man can have a harem cause he can impregnate all the women. A women can't because only one person in the harem can impregnate her. Women are not biologically built for male harems, and men aren't even sound of nature to be a part of one. We are very territorial with women and any discomfort we feel on that stuff is instinctual.

Ringo when?

>You can have multiple friends, and care for all of them
>You can have multiple children, and love all of them
>You must abuse your wives, it's the only way, all harems are built on blood and hate
Why do people get like this?
I just want 6-10 wives, to love and hold (Frequently)

>>281130456
> because only one person in the harem can impregnate her.

Actually heteropaternal superfecundation exist and there are IRL cases where fraternal twins are conceived from the same menstrual cycle but with different fathers. It occurs when a woman releases multiple eggs during a single ovulation period and each egg is fertilized by sperm from separate sexual encounters with different men. In theory it extends to triplets and more

>>281085944
It would completely eliminate certain issues if inheritance was matrilineal.

Harem vs Harem like Sekirei meets Pokemon.

>>281110452
He does have the favorites, which are Ruu, Tia, and Hakuren. The others are much less important.

>>281131154
By this same logic why would you be angry at a woman if she wanted multiple husbands? She can care about all of you equally right?

>>281087205
>>281086582
>>281083610 (OP)
except where the actual best girl wins the bowl like Sakura in FSN

>>281131279
I wish this was more popular

>>281131474
I would not personally agree to that, but why would I care if 3 people unrelated to me started an mmf?
I would want nothing but the best for them

>>281131517
And why do you think 6-10 women would ever agree to be your wives?

>>281131564
I am tall, and smart, and kind, and I have a large penis
If I fuck hard enough surely they would agree?

>>281131589
I don't know, why don't you go ask some women?

>>281118911
I don't think they count as harems if you whore your haremettes out to ugly bastards or have other men in the picture at all. That's just pure degeneracy.

>>281131689
Ok?
That was the Plan....
You do realise that polygamy is a thing and that polygamous communities exist here and now right?
It isn't a very far off goal

>>281131225
>Brings up fringe occurrences like it matters

Anon were you born a boy or a girl? Just for research purposes.

>>281087205
>Harem stories are rarely built where the MC is aware of the girls' affection or where he has time to consider the idea of polygamy, confessions are rushed into the final part of the story
This is the most important part, in Umi no Misaki the guy knows they all love him, and they don't fight against each other, they all confessed, he replied to them, they kissed, dated, slept together, had sex and the author puts another full volume of them going on a trip together.

>>281096284
Too degenerate for me
>the blonde one is a MALE and a succubus (incubus).

>>281132052
That actually makes it extremely based

>>281105120
author of that needs to get a move on though, it is better written than the Web Novel, but we haven't seen any progress since chapter 15, is ridicolous.

>>281111080
that poor guy would have the biggest blue balls on earth, at this point he will probably lose his virginity in the extras of the very last volume.

>>281110283
I quite like it, good comedy, but one sex scene and only in the volume extras is a jerk move when we have lots of Isekai that deliver on that front.

>>281126234
>muh pol muh pol
/a/ isn't like this because of /pol/
/pol/ is like that because of /a/

>>281132321
Actual retard

>>281113323
Is 99% sure, but I hope we get some more progress on that front and the author doesn't pussy with a confession->end.

At least the "fake" dates were fun, but right now my biggest problem is that the MC isn't getting the same kind of focus, he is too oblivious and hasn't grown in many chapters.

>>281112913
Makes me wonder what would happen if you had a situation, imagine Amagami SS, but all the girls from the end of their route are put back at point zero, they keep the memory, while the protagonist is completely clueless....what would happen?

There was some rambling here and there, but the thread did reach bump limit, so I guess the thread wasn't so bad?

>>281132013
You are absolutely correct, both MC has to desire it deeply and girls has to be very close together way before the ending.

>>281115405
I like it, but the release and the translation is slow as molasses and the author has been stalling the story compared to the original.

>>281083610 (OP)
Because polygamy is illegal in Japan

>>281085944
I feel like if I was with my gf and her best friend then they could always hang out and have fun together and I could take care of them both, what's the problem? we've already had a couple orgies and handling children is easier with more women.

>>281133162
So? Just pull a Hare-con and make it legal.

>>281133162
So how did that guy circumvent it?

>>281132869
Basically everyone in the harem has to have a strong relationship, where they can be happy in each others presence.

>>281134610
Or just be brainwashed.

>>281134622
By magic or love?

>>281134679
Magic.