Why do you think Takopi's Original Sin has gotten so little attention despite being an antithesis to all of the slop flooding the market currently

>gotten so little attention
Really? Because it seems like people are praising it as the second coming of Christ to me.

>>281127482 (OP)
Name one good thing that has succeeded.

>>281127482 (OP)
Not everyone sees the good things the way you do, fellow anon.

>>281127482 (OP)
Because I haven't watched it yet, and since the universe exists in my mind (sorry everyone) I haven't actually conjured any threads about it's content other than to know that I should get around to watching it.
I'll get around to it soon though.

>>281127482 (OP)
Easy the most popular show of the season, a season with Dandadan, Gachiakuta and Sono Bisque, the normalfag trifecta.

>>281127482 (OP)
The disclaimer probably scared people off

>>281127507
Takopi is a Jesus figure after all.

>>281127482 (OP)
>slop
That's what it is though, misery slop

The ending was a bit disappointing, could have used some more buildup.

>>281127482 (OP)
not yuri

>lmao what? that's the ending? what a fucking trainwreck, lol
>goes on the internet
>"I HECKING CRYED MY EYBALLS OUT ;(((( AOTY PEAK FICTION! ABSOULTE CINEMA,, I HAVE GOOSEBUMPPERIINOS AND SHIVERS WOOOOW"
am i just autistic?

>>281128571
No, you're just underage and irony poisoned but you probably also are autistic

>>281128615
I'm not underage

>>281128633
Well then you're probably close to it

>>281128571
Normies are very easily emotionally manipulated and this show heavy handedly tries to do that since the beginning.

>>281128571
Takopi's second volume was always crap and the ending shit, you're right.

>>281127482 (OP)
it's really short, mainstream audiences (normgroids) don't into loli misery porn, and it doesn't have much going for it other than being sad. what's there to talk about?

>>281128700
This is literally the number 1 normies show of the season what are you talking about?

>>281128724
have you ever asked your mother if she regretted carrying you fully to term

the weirdest part of the 'emotional manipulation' complaint is that this series becomes quite intentionally funny if you actually don't let yourself fall prey to it

but i guess these kids are just vomiting out shit they heard from someone else

>>281128746
Why are you like that?

>>281128759
its a relevant question

>>281127482 (OP)
The fact that there are 3 threads for it already proves you wrong

>>281128755
The problem is that it wasn't funny enough to keep me entertained for 6 episodes.

>>281127482 (OP)
Just watched the final episode, aoty most likely unless something better airs the next season, what a breath of fresh air.

>>281128669
>normies

>>281127482 (OP)
>antithesis
This anime is a slop, it talks about WOMAN just like every slop this season
https://anichart.net/Summer-2025

>>281128755
This is cope to make you feel smart. The show spends most of its time being painfully unfunny.

>>281128755
Takopi hard-carried the show, he's got the right mixture of obliviousness and heart that makes him funny when he's meant to be but gets you to still feel bad for him when he messes up. They really should have developed his and Shizuka's relationship more though, when he said "you gave me bread" it was unintentionally hilarious because there's no way that balances out all the bullshit she put him through.

>what people think: "Wow! This show proves that kindness can beat every obstacle in life, no matter how insurmountable"
>what the author thought: "Women are fucking evil"

>>281129162
That's what everyone thought too anon but retards are scared to say what they really think

>>281128571
Yes, you think in black and white.
An ending for a show can be both good and bad at the same time. It's not the most logical, but this anime wasn't about some mastermind plot, that's a detail.

>>281129162
women are the source of most problems, whether directly or as a scarce resource among men.

>>281129551
Maybe the show was just boring.

I enjoyed it, also it got a lot of attention on twitter that's where I saw people talking about it and picked it up.

>>281127482 (OP)
>pic related
>Antithesis
The only different thing this series had was the misery, but it got over exploited. This could be so much more in more capable hands, but the author is a fucking hack. There is a lot of talk because the series got attention because of its short run, so with the state of things left at the end of EP 5 and some manga anons revelations, yeah, most people saw EP 6 to see how shit it would be, and it did deliver, it was so shit because lazy writiong, ass pulls, and not knowing how the fucking time jumps work.
>TL; DR:
Being different doesnt imply being good.
>>281128776
There are 3 threads because at least 2 OPs are idiots. like this thread's. All the talk can be held on one thread.

>>281129769
...you good, anon?

>>281129932
He's clearly not, just another stupid schizo with less than 90IQ

>>281129162
did you miss the part where both characters' dads were complete assholes?

>>281130045
I'm actually curious about Shizuka's mom, she seemed like the least abusive of the parents. Kind of odd how irrelevant she ended up being.

>>281127482 (OP)
Because it's dishonest storytelling
It focuses on emotionally manipulating the viewer instead of letting good storytelling provoke a response naturally
Most people can see through that

>>281130083
Didn't it imply that her mom abandoned her completely during the bad timeline?

>>281129769
>There are 3 threads because at least 2 OPs are idiots
Well it had 2 threads that hit bump limit in a few hours before, and a third would probably be close to bump limit now if all the Takopi threads on the catalog now were combined into one.

>>281130104
This was the most genuine storytelling I've seen in a while

>>281130260
I would be with you up until and including episode 5 but deus ex machina space alien magic that makes the bullies/bully victims :(:(:( become best fwiends :):):) is the furthest thing from genuine storytelling I can think of.
Also the fact that every single adult in the series is a retard at best and a pyschotic monster at worst feels too convenient, but maybe that's just how rural Japanese society is.

>>281130306
What would have been a better ending for you? You are just mad that the ending is satisfying because you think you are too smart for a normal ending. I guess you could say it's a deus ex machina, but like time travel was the main conceit of the story so not really

>>281128755
smol brain: haha fookin smack dem kids haha
midwit: ieuw gross misery porn stop no
vein brain: haha witty dark comedy about utilitarianism

>>281128755
>>281130405
>haha I'm so edgy I think the sad show is funny
It was a multifaceted show but you guys sound like 12 year olds.

>>281130424
you can consult the chart to see where you are >>281130405

>>281130348
Takopii removing himself from the story making everything resolve itself naturally is a fine concept for an ending, it's just the execution with the whole "I'm gonna stop bullying you because you drew a retarded scribble that invoked deja vu" thing that is shit.

>>281127482 (OP)
Most anime fans want isekai slop.

>>281130970
/thread

>>281127482 (OP)
It's not battle shonen slop

>>281130970
This.

>>281127482 (OP)
I read the first couple chapters a while back and it just seemed like miseryporn.

>>281130941
I thought the "reconciliation" made sense because I understand that humans act more emotionally than logically, they showed us the first step to their bonding and you can infer that it continues behind the scenes, how come so many of you can't comprehend this. You can't even blame your autism since we're all autistic

>>281130941
>"I'm gonna stop bullying you because you drew a retarded scribble that invoked deja vu"
The characters are canonically 9 years old, that seems like something children would do

>>281127482 (OP)
because it fucking sucks, they already did the magical girls but gritty with madoka, having the victim be a murderous piece of shit is hardly as big of a plot twist as expected

>>281131246
>magical girls but gritty
???

>>281131246
It's not magical girl series
But I love to imagine them being in Madoka series

>>281127507
It's a highly-rated niche, but not over-watched like Frieren or Bocchi.
It's like Saiki Kusuo. everyone who watched it loved it, but the viewerbase isn't actually big.

>>281131290
>>281131322
>magical creature arrives on earth to give magical powers to a girl to change her life
only thing different is that the girl doesn't accept the powers and becomes a homicidal maniac using the cuddly mascot character as a weapon

I loved the series but im confused about something; did marina and shizuka become friendds over a deja trauma episode caused by the doodle of topaki or because he went with the little boy instead of the girls?

This is going to be one of those anime that ruins anime for me for a while becaue nothing else is even close to as high quality

>>281131398
It has nothing to do with magical girls aside from the female protagonnist, it's blatantly referencing stuff like Doraemon, with the gadget tools, where a special something mascot-like character (robot in Doraemon's case) appears to help the life of the protagonist, who is a bullied kid.

Is this an anime where a Japanese (East Asian) girl and a white girl end up becoming best friends?

>>281132197
looks like To Aru characters

>>281130306
>but deus ex machina space alien magic that makes the bullies/bully victims :(:(:( become best fwiends :):):)
Nothing what Takopi accomplished was 'magic'. That's the point. His super advanced alien technology was literally boiled down to letting two girls bond over something stupidly simple. He's an idiot who couldn't even accomplish that without sacrificing himself. Imagine how easy it would be to resolve their relationship if their teacher or adults in their lives gave a damn. Two lives could be prevented from being completely ruined.

Did the anime fixed that mess that was the final stretch of the story?
Who I am kidding, it did not it did?

>>281130941
Marine never stopped bullying her. She is still bullying Shizuka in the epilogue.

>>281127482 (OP)
>so little attention
this is not something to complain about, if anything you should actively gatekeep it if you liked it

The ending was solid.
I wish 80 iq plotniggers would never speak again.

Need doujin of the 2 girls servicing old men more money they are both so sexy

>>281131978
They have trauma bonding. Azuma's good end is him not interacting with these 2 insane whores at all and hanging out with his brother more.

>>281132197
Shizuka: meek but manipulative and vengeful, dark haired (Jewish)
Marina: violent, impulsive, cruel, blond (Nordic as fuck)

>>281133551
>meek but manipulative and vengeful
a woman.

>>281127482 (OP)
What? Isn't it just generic suffering trash that leans into it like it's a fetish?

Why does every just good manga get treated like Jesus coming back to earth when they get anime adapted? Takopi, Frieren, Oshi no ko, Dandadan.
All good manga , but the hype and testament their anime adaptions get is WAY higher than the manga gets. Are anime onlies that starved?

Takopi represents cope.

>>281127482 (OP)
It's just suffering slop.

>>281133454
it would be better if takopi didn't rewind time and let the humans live in peace

>>281134308
It’s just normalfags, they also overyhype normal shonen manga like kagurabachi.

>>281134308
DDD had some pretty nice directing/framing. No one would care about these if they had bellow average animation

>>281128755
I laughed at the stupidity a lot but I also almost teared up multiple times
best to do both and also not take yourself to seriously

>>281127482 (OP)
>has gotten so little attention
It is one of the most talked-about series this season. Even my sister-in-law, who doesn't watch anime, watched it and liked it (and it was recommended to her by friends who also don't watch anime). The series trended on Twitter every single week; in fact, it's trending right now. I don't know what you're talking about, anon

If you don’t know how a CPU works you shouldn’t be allowed to discuss this anime.

>>281134676
This.

>babbys first poorly written misery porn

>>281131978
The way I understood it was that ultimately none of them will be magically "saved." Takopi basically didn't do jack shit except talk a lot with all three of them because he couldn't understand their feelings or their situations and therefore couldn't do anything to help them. The only thing they could do was talk things out which would create some kind of mutual understanding and make their situations slightly less shit and/or bearable. This can be seen by the fact none of their family situations resolved in any way. Shizuka's still alone with parents who left her, Marina's dad walked and her mom is still a psycho and Azuma still has an absent father and a bitch mother. The only things that changed are the relationships between the characters. Shizuka and Marina have each other and Azuma has his brother.

So basically takopi's influence traveled across the timelines and created an opportunity for Shizuka and Marina to connect, as well as for Azuma and his brother to connect. That's essentially all that happened. Takopi created an opportunity for the characters to talk, and in doing so their situations improved. The moral of the story I guess would be something along the lines of "talk things out because nobody will understand how you feel if you don't." It's a pretty common theme in japanese media actually. Naturally you can counter with "oh but not everyone just has a magical octopus that'll fix things for them" but I believe that's already answered like I mentioned above. Takopi tried to do a lot of things but ultimately failed miserably, only managing to allow the characters to talk to each other. Had they just talked things out from the beginning, none of the timeline horrors would've happened so to speak. Takopi himself realizes he should've talked with his mother rather than running away and making a giant mess of things as well. Overall I thought it was pretty good but wish it was longer.

>>281134308
>Oshi no ko
>good.
I'm still pissed that I fell for "dude, it explores the dark side of the entertaining industry" propaganda.

>>281134308
This. Can you stop being emotional? It's for redditors.

>>281134725
This. Emotions are cringe reddit shit.

>>281134308
Most westerners don’t read manga. And there are much, much more manga than anime. So whenever a liked series gets an adaption with good animation it’s an event for casuals.
Hell, Takopi anime is rated a 9 on MyAnimeList. The manga? 7.76.
In other words, most anime watchers are casuals.

>>281134308
Once you make peace with the fact that the majority of voices online discussing anime are teenagers and young adults, you stop giving a fuck about any of this. Why should I care what some 17 year old think about any particular piece of media?

>>281134460
Heh, yep. I can just imagine Kagurabachi getting treated like a battle Shonen written by god himself once it gets an anime.

>>281134781
>In other words, most anime watchers are casuals.
That's true for any visual media. More people watch movies than read the novels those movies are based on. Even in the lowest form of entertainment, such as superhero movies, more people watch the movies than read the comics that inspired them.

My heroes ORA

>>281134791
It’s why I can’t honestly ever ditch this site despite it “dying”. I don’t hate casuals, but there’s only so much discussion you can have with them.

>>281134832
>can just imagine Kagurabachi getting treated like a battle Shonen written by god himself once it gets an anime.
It already gets treated like that by notmalfags even without an anime.

>>281134781
>Hell, Takopi anime is rated a 9 on MyAnimeList. The manga? 7.76
I don’t think that’s a good way to look at things, plenty of shonenshit manga have 8+ ratings on mal while manga with more unique art styles have bellow 7. On the anime side as well, ovas with great animation, indie and arthouse anime tend to have ratings bellow 6. That place is garbage.

>>281134781
I rated it a 9 as well

>>281127482 (OP)
fan art is doing good tho

https://x.com/anyaaa66/status/1951298727228088369
https://x.com/hayupipipipi/status/1950938505238253890
https://x.com/danny8461/status/1951354335172165916

but it's all gay shit

>>281134990
yay I love gay shit
but realistically what would you want people to draw? Genuine question not trying to be rude

>>281134870
casuals only know shonen anime. released in the last 5 years. they don’t even know non-shonen stuff like odd taxi.

>>281135019
>what would you want people to draw
gay shit

>>281134870
>It’s why I can’t honestly ever ditch this site despite it “dying”.
This site is filled with teenagers and newfags especially boards like /a/ and /v/, maybe not as bad as the rest of the internet but still bad enough.

>>281134781
True it's so hard to be intellectual Japanese media consumer in this era.
7.76 manga rated as second coming of Jesus Christ. Those plebs never read any deep thought-provoking life changing manga written by competent literary fiction writers. Actual art is untranslatable for EOP masses.

>>281135019
Drawing non-porn het shit would be kinda awkward because Azuma is irrelevant in the true end.

>>281134990
I wonder if the author might try to put yuribait or something in his next works to try to scratch popularity again or something.
Reading his one shots and other works it's funny how there's almost 0 interaction between female characters, It even gives you the feeling he’s a yaoifag or something, in Ichinose the MC’a friend was literally obsessed with his dick and he just bullied him as a way to gain his attention, he also has a oneshot about a literal yaoifag and his latest one is about 2 soccer playera with a strong rivalry and sexual tension.
I'm surprised he hasn't tried toxic girls again yet

>>281127482 (OP)
its neither cute nor funny

>>281134629
I did too, the show has genuinely sweet and tragic moments but... sometimes the emotions of the characters cloud their judgement to the point that it's just comical. Does a good job of depicting both extremes if you aren't getting swayed by everything you see

>>281127482 (OP)
On the contrary this has gotten a ton of attention from the mainstream meanwhile Panty & Stocking does not exist and has no presence anywhere besides boomer forums like this.

>>281135139
Get my daughterfu's picture out of your shitpost, if you understood City or Takopi you'd be able to understand the other.

>both husband and daughter taken by Kuze family
I kinda feel bad for her

Awful, surface level story. I'm genuinely baffled by the lack of critical thinking in these threads.
Takopi is a one dimensional character, he is paper-thin and serves only as the mascot/deus-ex of the story.
Time travel makes the entire story irredeemable, I have no idea why the nips like using it so much. There are no fucking consequences.
The ending was so shit and rushed to all hell. Like, just because they see a drawing of Takopi they suddenly become friends? Didn't the shitty octopus literally say that there were no more do-overs? Suddenly there IS another do-over.
The anons who actually like this garbage are completely alien to me.

>>281135828
>doesn't understand anything
>everyone else but me is retarded
classic

>>281127482 (OP)
I only watched the first two episodes, but to me this seems like a dark comedy. The story doesn't play like a tragedy, Takopi is too retarded for that, and the end of the second episode really plays with the absurd angle.

>>281135886
>no argument
I accept your concession

>>281135886
Ah yes, the average Takoshit enjoyer.
You can't even explain why you like it. I 100% bet that you're only on this bandwagon because it's popular, and for no other reason.

Idgi. So Takopi was erased out of existence or just returned back in time to his native world?

>>281135828
>>281136166
>t. amateur writer whose work would never get published

>>281135828
So close, but still so far...

>>281136166
>FEED ME THE ANSWER SO I CAN STOP GETTING LAUGHED AT ;_;

https://x.com/anyaaa66/status/1951298727228088369

>>281136347
>Tell me your own opinion of the story because I can't read your mind and I'm genuinely curious as to why you like this trash.
>NU UH U ARENT GETTING SPOONFED LEL NO ANSWER FOR U
Holy shit you're retarded.

>>281131330
because it is not normalfag friendly

>>281136463
You're so cute. You already had the answer and flew right past it.

>>281136347
This.
Beggars are getting desperate. First lowercase shartykek now this.
Shitposters are begging for engagement.

what's with this dude spamming his dumbass opinion like he's an expert in every Takopi thread? yeah we get it, you hate it, now stop talking about the thing you hate and go do something else you enjoy

Just report, ignore and [-]

>>281136573
If you can't actually defend your tastes then they're trash. So far I'm the only anon who made a coherent argument against Takopi, meanwhile your just shitting in the void. My argument is stronger than yours.
>>281136623
I'm just consistently baffled that such a blatantly manipulative piece of media could have so many blind followers. I'm seeing 0 critical thinking skills displayed in these threads and it's getting to the point where these threads may actually be shill bots.

>>281136623
Every thread needs an ACK.

>>281136720
>Report
...For giving my opinion?

>>281133132
6 episodes only. So, nope, from the start it was clear they were sticking to the manga story to the letter.

>>281127482 (OP)
Takoslop floped

>>281136623
Mental illness. Default state of new generation.

>>281130045
dads were angels compared to moms

>>281134695
I think Takopi represents failed band-aid 'solutions' people attempt when dealing with their tragedies
What brings the girls together is the realization that they are both hopelessly stuck in their situations, that there is no easy out. At best they can persevere together.

>>281130045
The dads are mostly just weak.

>>281136722
So far the only arguments these people have are either "I personally liked it so it has to be good" and/or "even normies are hyped about it, so it has to be good".

>>281137341
I think we're both saying similar things. What do you mean by bandaid solutions though? Like takopi providing simple answers to things like "shizuka didn't know the answer to her math problem so I'll tell her the answer" or "shizuka lost her bag so I'll find it for her" rather than understanding that both things were a result of bullying which also had deeper issues as to why it was occurring in the first place?

>>281127482 (OP)
classic combo of great start with weak ending

>>281137830
>I personally liked it so it has to be good
unironically this, if you need le expert opinion to tell you if something is good or not, you're just another NPC

>>281133284
There is no such thing as non-abusive lesbian relationship.

>>281136722
>coherent argument against Takopi
I could make the exact same "argument" but with inverted value judgements and it would be just as "strong" and "coherent". You didn't say shit.
>>281137830
>"I personally liked it so it has to be good"
How the fuck do you want people to appraise it then? It's art, not a graph or an excel sheet, subjectivity is the rule.

>wow this show is good, I like it
>time to read MAL and /a/ opinions
>...
>wtf they're saying this show is bad, I hate it now, this show fucking sucks

isn't it kinda sad?

>>281138300
mal and /a/ loves this trash though

>>281138185
>I could make the exact same "argument" but with inverted value judgements and it would be just as "strong" and "coherent".
It wouldn't, so don't. Make a stronger argument. I want to gain a new perspective on this, maybe I am missing something, but if you're just going to strawman, or otherwise say worthless garbage, then I'm going to uphold my opinion as the strongest and thus correct one.

>>281128755
All fiction is trying to get some sort of emotional response out of you. It's ALL "emotional manipulation". If it does it well and evokes a strong reaction it means it's good and it connected with something in you as the audience.

But some people view that as a bad thing I guess.

>>281137995
They are band-aid solutions because at the core of girls' problems lie their parents, the blood they passed on to them and their upbringing. Takopi can't fix that, it's beyond anyone's control.

>>281138616
There is media that's actually trying to tell a story which naturally invokes emotions in the audience.
Then there's commercial trash that are designed to elicit emotions in the audience so that it sells. Emotionally manipulative.
Tokoshit is the latter.

>>281138519
>It wouldn't
Yes it would.
>I'm going to uphold my opinion
I am going to uphold my opinion higher. Faggot manlet

>>281129161
>when he said "you gave me bread" it was unintentionally hilarious because there's no way that balances out all the bullshit she put him through
Imagine missing the whole story point this hard.

>>281138698
>naturally invokes
There is nothing 'natural' about any of this, retard. It's all written by *someone* for this or that reason and to ellicit this or that response from viewer. Anime scripts don't grow on trees you fucking moron.

>>281138698
Good luck actually explaining the difference between the two. People also always seem to forget that adaptations are adaptations of things that have already existed for a while. Do you think the manga that barely anyone paid attention to was "commercial trash" in this same way, despite it being essentially the same thing as the anime in terms of content? Actual "commercial trash" typically isn't 2 manga volumes and 6 anime episodes.

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's some nefarious brainwashing tool.

>>281138704
The mangaka is covering themes and concepts which are extremely complex and nuanced in the span of 16 chapters, or 6 episodes for the anime. It's literally not possible to do that in any meaningful way, so all the mangaka can do is pretend to be meaningful by overloading the audience with shock and awe. If they actually wanted to have something to say about domestic abuse, bullying, and trauma, they wouldn't have made a fucking 16 chapter manga.
Takopii is a one-dimensional mascot character who acts as a deus-ex. He's a nothing entity, has nothing going for him other than to just act cute and attach "-pi" to the end of every sentence.
The premise for Takopii is interesting. The backgrounds for the main characters is extremely interesting. The plot is hot garbage, handwaving everything with Takopii's bullshit. The ending was so incredibly rushed.
This would absolutely be a 10/10 if it was more than 6 fucking episodes. But it's not so it has to be "impactful" to compensate.

>>281138849
I know that /a/ isn't one person but it's still pretty funny seeing the "all stories can be done in 12 episodes or less" crowd and then also "this series is too short with 6 episodes to tell any meaningful story" here. I also think it's strange that you're saying a series you consider shit could have been 10/10 if it had more content, seemingly not even considering what that additional content would be like.

>>281138797
Come on, please don't be this bottom-of-the-barrel retarded that you're actually arguing semantics for the word "natural".
If you're an ESL, then I'll explain it to you simply. The word “natural” literally refers to something that comes from nature, and more abstractly, it describes something that is not forced, or occurs without resistance.

>>281138300
Why are you making up scenarios in your head? Is not very healthy.

>>281138300
My experience with a lot of things recently. I don't know how to explain it but some people really can't help but hate something, yet instead of disengaging with it and moving on, they go out of their way to be mad about it in a shitflingy way.

>>281138659
Maybe, but I refuse to accept such a despairing truth. Like you can't choose your parents and your environment growing up will definitely affect you in a large way but I like to believe people can change and overcome such factors. The whole "I was born/raised this way so it can't be helped" thing has always felt like a lame excuse/refusing to face reality to me.

They ending even got bubuka to make wholesome art.

>>281138948
No. It has nothing to do with "just" having more content. Takoshit is dealing with topics that are incredibly complex and demand nuance, but since it's a story condensed into 6 episodes, you can't have that nuance, so the story has to compensate by being heavy handed in it's delivery.
I also never made that kind of argument. Keep your retarded words out of my post.

>>281127482 (OP)
Literally Temu Lain

>>281138955
Anon, those "naturally invoked emotions" are intentional by the writer through the way they write their story. All fiction is manipulative in this way. Of course this can be done better or worse, but people writing a story more often than not do not just drop shit on a page or on the screen with no thought behind how they want their audience to react.

So people are simply going to ignore the dozens of threads explaining why this show is so bad and focus on moving the goal post until people get tired?

>>281139089
Re-read my post.
All writing is intentional. Everything written is meant to say something. That is writing.
There is one form of storytelling where it involves an author trying to tell a story from their heart, where the feelings and emotions are authentic and come about naturally from the story itself.
Then there is the other form, where an author wants to make money, so they leverage the fact that people gravitate to emotional stories. So, they design their story in such a way as to elicit these emotions in the most potent way possible. They do this, because it sells, and they get rich off of it.
Takopii, again, is the latter.

>>281138849
>It's literally not possible to do that in any meaningful way
What's a meaningful way? Where is the treshold for that?
>pretend to be meaningful
How do you pretend to be meaningful?
>overloading the audience with shock and awe
How? By showing abuse in "dealing with abuse" anime?
>If they actually wanted to have something to say about domestic abuse, bullying, and trauma, they wouldn't have made a fucking 16 chapter manga.
Why?
>Takopii is a one-dimensional mascot character who acts as a deus-ex
Takopii is a personalization of how people try to deal with their tragedies.
>The plot is hot garbage
It's pretty good IMO
>handwaving everything with Takopii's bullshit
How does it handwave everything?
>The ending was so incredibly rushed
What's wrong with it?
>This would absolutely be a 10/10 if it was more than 6 fucking episodes
That's a dumb rule to make up
>it has to be "impactful"
Every work ever aspires to be impactful.

>>281139169
You do realize the only people who are still focused on this show are Takopi diehards and veteran anime onlies (who aren’t casuals but are anime onlies so might as well be).
This series finished like 3-4 years ago.

>>281139239
>How? How? Why? How?
What you're doing is what toddlers do. They keep asking "why why why?" Over and over again, because the topic of conversation is so out of their depth that they are only able to reduce the complexity of the topic into absurdity.
I gave you my argument, now give me yours instead of harping on what I said. Asking dumb questions like that is a nothing response to sound smart.

>>281138955
I am not arguing semantics, your use of vocabulary is innately retarded.
>it describes something that is not forced, or occurs without resistance.
Everything written is 'forced' by the author, art is an artifice, it's unnatural. Again, there are no anime trees.

>>281139176
Do you really think a 2 volume manga is made for the sole purpose to make money?
>an author trying to tell a story from their heart, where the feelings and emotions are authentic and come about naturally from the story itself
Yeah, and I said good luck in arguing this is the case for anything. You can look at /a/ just to see how people argue against the quality of every anime and manga, kind of like you're doing now. There is no way to evaluate the authenticity of emotions in a piece of fiction in an objective manner. And just because you don't like something doesn't mean the emotions are inauthentic and fake. Being shocking and disturbing isn't inherently emotionally fake.

Why are retarded nigger saying the ending is deus ex machina? Takopi fucking dies and the only thing that changes is Shizuka and Marina becoming friends. Their family situations are still fucked up, Marina still has her scar, etc. It's a bittersweet ending, not some happily ever after asspull.

>>281139378
Well I'm not a damn scientists, so of course I'm not trying to be objective. Everything I have said so far has been my opinion.
An argument doesn't need to win out based on objectivity, there are other forms of logic. Similarly, you don't need to prove emotional authenticity on an objective basis, that's literally impossible.
I gave you my argument for this. It's trying to cover extremely emotionally charged, complex, and nuanced themes in an incredibly short window, so things HAVE to be condensed, they HAVE to be designed to purposefully elicit these emotions, as they can in no way shape or form come about in an organic matter when the story is that short.
This "2 volume manga" just received an admittedly fantastic adaption, and as a result received a lot of attention ($$$) from normalfags. So it did work, inauthentic, designed emotional manipulation.
That's the basis for my argument. I can't give you objective statistics or measurements, because this is not objective.

>There are so many long responses, these posters musts really like discussing with eachother-pi! Yokatta

>>281127482 (OP)
The ending was shit-

>>281139351
You wrote down a load of made up axioms about that which is ok and that which is not, that which works and that which is bound to fail. I don't find them convincing, so best I can do for now is ask where'd you take them from.

>>281139531
>deus ex machina
>a very powerful being descends from the skies and fixes your life with the magical power of a machine
it was deus ex machina by definition
>Shizuka and Marina becoming friends
That part was pure asspull. Shizuka was still about to lose an eye and later her dog but Marina changed her mind during the swing just because.

>>281139169
>I think everything you like is bad
Why do you care though? Just fuck off then. Nobody asked lil bro.

>>281139582
Oh, so he’s the Kafuka of the new generation

>>281139744
>fixes your life
He didn't though. Nothing about their home life situation is fixed. The two girls just have each other to lean on now.

>>281139800
>lil bro
We actually have these kinds of "people" on this board now. Grim.

One of the first things I thought when watching was how Shizuka and Marina could have been friends so easily. Kids are innocent, they can bond or become mortal enemies over all this family dram. So I was pretty satisfied with the ending overall.
But obviously I am wrong and the show is complete shit, because "rushed" or whatever. You people can be more grim than the fucking families in the show. Shit's depressing

>>281140521
>Kids are innocent
Marina was anything but innocent and I'm glad her mother still scarred her pretty face forever

>>281140521
Comparing not liking your pubescent show to literal abusive parents sounds pretty childish in itself tho

>>281140521
Takopi was able to become the ribbon to join them together in the end.

>>281140667
You're holding an abused and neglected elementary schooler to a high standard.

>>281140521
Well it is summer and the site's changed a lot over the years, especially since the hack. Newfags coming here acting like they're hot shit by being edgy and contrarian because they think the website is for edgy contrarians like themselves is nothing new. It's just more loud and obnoxious now.

>>281140521
Almost enough to make you laugh.

>>281140759
>You're holding an abused and neglected elementary schooler to a high standard.
We are talking about Marina not Shizuka. Nothing she did to her classmate can be excused. The shit she did goes way beyond name calling and usual bullying.

Marina was too based for this anime

Moral of the story: Get your kid a playstation

>>281127482 (OP)
I'm sick of watching anime about kids

>>281141090
>PLEASE CRY

6 episodes was too short, I get they just went with a straight adaptation but they should've taken some liberties to stretch the episodes out to give a better ending.

>>281141073
Azuma simply realized he had money and could get any pussy he wanted. See, this anime give good lessons, money solve your problems, women right are a mistake, is all in there.

>>281127482 (OP)
Best comedy of the year and you cannot prove me wrong.

Let's talk numbers. Four episodes would have cemented this anime as an underachiever, seven flying too close to the sun. Five might have worked but can you imagine how many minutes they would have needed to cut to make it fit? Like thirty. We could have had a fifty two episode octopus festival but the morons in charge of this adaptation decided to cut us off.

>>281127482 (OP)
Watched it it was great. I don't see ending how it worked but in my mind while watching it I had similar conclusion that these bitches should just wait and grow up since I didn't live in perfect house when I was young. Too bad not much fanservice. Would've been better if some rape scenes and nudity happened.

>>281134370
He was too retarded to be a cope

>>281141090
Where's png?

>>281141102
Nobody's forcing you to.

>>281141684
You don't know that for sure. "They" could even be forcing me to post right now.

>>281141684
Nobody was forcing Marina to beat up Shizuka either.

Shizuka grew up to be like her mother

>>281142339
Marina too, how sweet!

>>281139744
>and fixes your life
LoL

>>281142945
They are both looking for a daddy. What's with people thinking they will be gay.

>>281143062
They are 2 codependent girls, with a history of mutual abuse, both rotten and with toxic attitudes. It is inevitably hot

so we just gonna ignore the fact that shizuka cut open two children

>>281143062
It was me, I told them to

>>281143155
They are going to abuse each other Inshallah
Marina using physical violence and Shizuka emotional manipulation

Why is there so many Shizumari

Is the ending the same as manga?
I think it was fine, I remember reading so many posts about people shitting on the ending.

>>281143180
Shouldn't have eaten her dog

>>281143268
They are already abusing each other, in the last scene Marina tries to trip Shizuka while Shizuka dodges it and gratuitously insults her mother.
They are not true friends willing to sacrifice something for each other, they are only together because they have no one else, such a relationship will never result in anything good, but that’s exactly what makes it interesting

>>281143180
Oh don't worry. Time travel bullshit invalidates all wrongdoings.

>>281127482 (OP)
Misery porn has a niche audience, like NTR.

>>281139351
>What you're doing is what toddlers do.

Lawyers do this as well. You're being scrutinized, and if your argument can't survive being asked "why?" then it wasn't very much of an argument to begin with

>>281143485
does it though
does it really

Yurifags are sick in the head.

>>281143531
>Takoshit enjoyers have the same level of discourse as lawyers
You are truly up your own ass.

>>281143621
More like you underestimate the rhetorical effectiveness of asking someone "why?".

Enemies to lovers are the best trope

>>281131246
What in the world are you talking about? Takopi has nothing to do with magical girls but gritty. The victim is not a murderous piece of shit.

>>281133497
more or less what i thought. by not focusing on the whores he more or less improved a life a bit by having a better relationship with his older brother and not having to deal with a femcel and a stacy trying to fuck him.

i like the series and it def hit me in the feels cuz i know plenty of girls who were like shizuka

>>281131246
Takopi is more like a Doraemon deconstruction than a magical girls series but ok

>>281143664
I have posted several times my argument against Takopii, saying it's nothing more than purposefully designed emotionally manipulative schlock.
There has yet to be a coherent argument refuting a single thing that I said.
I really don't give a shit about how many whys or whats you throw at me, and I especially don't care about seeing you smell your own farts.
I'm not wrong about Takopii. I find is extremely shallow and manipulative, and so I have grown a hateboner against it. I will continue to make my thoughts known until someone can actually rip apart my points.

>>281143612
If you knew you were extremely evil in another timeline, would that affect the current you?

>>281134781
Anyone who rates things on myanimelist is a casual, anime or manga

>>281127482 (OP)
>Another generic talk anime where nothing happens
That is not an antithesis to the slop flooding the market.

>>281143799
if I knew in some other timeline I ripped open some kids stomachs yeah that would kind of fuck me up

>>281143793
You've made many statements about the show but you definitely have not made arguments for why those statements are true. For example, although you probably think you have, you haven't made an argument as to why you can't tell a story of this kind in 16 chapters in a meaningful way. You just made the statement as if it's axiomatically true.

But I will give you some slack. I'm almost certain that writing a proper argument is something you're perfectly capable of doing. But doing so would mean investing way more time and energy than it's worth

>>281134308
>>281128357

>>281143180
She didn't. Were you paying attention, you idiot?

>>281144017
You're giving him too much credit. He already spent so much time and effort, not just here but also in previous weeks, posting the same things over and over again yet he's still incapable of formulating an actual argument.

>>281144017
Nothing I am saying is "axiomatically" or objectively true. This is all my opinion because the subject matter is subjective. My judgement comes from experience, because I have never seen any short piece of medium successfully explore these topics, at all. On one end of the spectrum you have extremely abstract, bordering on nonsense pieces that have NOTHING to say, or extremely obvious, blatant, shock pieces which try to overload you into sympathy.
You've yet to make an argument for your position, you're just latching on to mine like a barnacle.

>>281144243
>multiple headlines shown about the kidnapping of the fathers two children
>when she encounters takopi next she threatens to cut him open *too*
were you?

>>281144375
>missed the headline about the girls being found safe
>Shizuka never threatened to cut open Takopi
Zero for two, try again.

>>281143453
Their relationship is extremely intimate, more than anyone else in their lives could ever hope to approach. Being able to make light of their background and tolerate the mutual abuse they throw at each other for catharsis is healthy for both of them. That's also what friends are good for, it's not just smiles and nice feelings.
>They are not true friends willing to sacrifice something for each other
They are constantly mutually sacrificing their pride just being around each other, for the sake of comforting them. Shizuka would probably prefer to not be subject to violent pranks and Marina would rather not get dragged around and teased with gifts purchased with whore money. The alternative is trauma-fueled murder/suicide though, so they let themselves get hurt to keep each other as sane as they can be. I think it's a beautiful relationship

If they had prescription SSRI and antipsychotic pill pushers in Hokkaido none of this would have happened and they'd simply sedate themselves to death and never make a meaningful decision or connection

>Marine still got the scar
What the fuck happened?

>>281144806
She got what she fucking deserved

>>281144825
>She got what she fucking deserved
Yeah, she got Shizuka

The thing with this show is that it only works if you can relate on some level to one if not all of the three main characters. Otherwise it's going to feel like a very contrived way of saying "bullying starts with the parent."

>>281130083
>she seemed like the least abusive of the parents
she sucks dick in front of Shizuka daily and probably even invited her to join in a few times

>>281127482 (OP)
Shizuka succubus. Shizubus.

>>281130083
Naoki's mom is the least abusive. She's just an Asian tiger mom. Of course if we include the dads, it's probably Naoki's dad since he spends most of his time busy at the hospital.

>>281145443
she's fucking 10 dude

>>281145573
So is Azuma

>>281145504
Naoki's mom was the second most damaging adult in the series.
>Marina's dad
For someone with a temper he was never shown intentionally harming his daughter and was nice to her the entire time.
>Shizuka's dad
Cut his losses and ran away. She asked for her dog back, he had no idea wtf she's talking about and didn't tell his new family about her because why the fuck would he?
>Shizuka's mom
Did her best to bring what little money she can and never did anything to Shizuka
>Azuma's dad
Just a normal dad.

>>281145666
Marina's dad is an abusive cheater and the root cause of everything

>>281146004
He never abused Marina and was nothing but nice to her tho. Marina doesn't care that he's cheating she cares that he comes home so her schizophrenic mother doesn't pummel her to vent

>>281146056
>and was nice to her the entire time
For like all of the 5 seconds he directly interacted with Marina-pi to turn her against her mother. He doesn't care about her daughter beyond something he can use against his wife.
>>281146056
She clearly does if you listen to her dialogue. She wants them to be a happy family again.

>>281146497
>turn her against her mother
The mother was constantly doing that already and it was working. Her father tried to get her out of that toxic environment and the mother shat herself in rage when she thought her machinations were for nothing and Mari-pi accepted the deal

>>281146549
>that toxic environment
He's largely responsible for it by spending time and money with hookers instead of his family and when he is home, he starts fights with his unstable wife.
>Mari-pi accepted the deal
He didn't even understand what was going on.

>>281134695
>>281137341
While Takopi couldn't solve their problems, his kindness made a difference, and it ended up being what let Shizuka and Marina connect and bond over.

>>281146672
Doesn't matter. He doesn't abuse Marina. His wife does. The only thing remotely close to abusing her was her being struck by some box which was collateral damage. He may be a shit husband but as far as fathers in the series go he's the best and even interacts with his child unlike Azuma's dad.

>Eye shadow
>Fake nails
Why did Shizuka end up being a bigger slut than Marina?

Could Takopi end genocidal blood feuds through the power of empathy and talking things out?

>>281136414
wouldn't be the first time

>>281127482 (OP)
Because it isn't that good. It's more boring Japanese writing of kids getting bullied in the same manner as always and killing themselves over the typical family problems. The ultimate lesson isn't interesting itself.

>ends in implied eventual Sesbian Lex
10/10 would watch again

>>281146909
She’s trendy now

>>281146909
>Why did Shizuka end up being a bigger slut than Marina?
Her mother taught her well in the ways of slutiness
Unlike Marina's mother who couldn't even teach her child the basics without going schizo

>>281147260
I bet they could get along if they wanted to

>>281148301
Shizuka isn't having any sesbian lex with those nails on
>>281146909

Misoginy kino, women ruin everything pure

>>281146909
It was obvious. Shizuka is a slut and marina is pure.

Just like Orb, a great beginning and a horrendous ending.

If you are emotionally detached it means you falled into jew psy ops.
(You)lost, ((they)) won

>>281146909
Girls take after their mothers, this was a theme for the entire duration of the show.

>>281148743
I guess you could say the sins of the mother

I think fathers should be there for their kids.

>>281148743
>>281148781
>sins of the mother
>original sin
>tfw the original sin was done be Eve
>tfw
it was all a biblical reference, wowzers

>>281127482 (OP)
>an antithesis to all of the slop flooding the market currently
But it IS slop. It's a fucking Jump product so it's slop by design.

Takopi best boy of the year

Gently reminder that Shizuka got her dog back and stopped getting bullied at school, meanwhile Marina has to go back to her house where her mother will beat her every single day. Sounds like now we know who the real victim was, huh?

>>281148837

>>281148955
Our boy Takopi was best girl all along desu

>>281148963
Marina's mom doesn't beat her every single day. Only when she's a bad girl who doesn't listen.

>>281148963
True, kek

>>281148963
Now that Marina has an ally she can sinply team up and beat up the mom

>>281148963
>>281149003
>Only when she's a bad girl who doesn't listen
>tfw
Lemme guess, Marina eventually become a sub because of mommy issues while Shizuka became a dom and she had to do mommy play with Marina and Shizuka would ask if Marina has been a good girl and Marina respons "yes mommy" and seggs ensues

>>281149053
I mean, a single Marina killed her with a sick reversal, so if you add a Shizuka into the mix they can defeat her for good.

>>281149088
Hot

>>281127482 (OP)
>Takopi's Original Sin
>muh slop

yeah nope. Punpun and Boy's Abyss is superior.
BA even got a bonus trannybro for you faggits ti selfinsert!

>>281149088
>>281149003
>Marina's bf breaks up with her
>Mom gets so buttmad she tries to murderhobo her with a nigerian knife(glass bottle for you gentry)

Waka waka, best mama award!

>>281148681
>Orb
>horrendous ending.
Church reformed, my dude. read your >>>/his/

They're Bad Girls(tm) now.

Solid 8/10. Everything from the anime production itself was great, the ending and story in general could've been better if the magaka tried to make something deeper, but it was fine for an edgy depressing doraemon. One of the best of the season, but I'm not sure if it's the AOTS.

The story peaked when the main girl showed up beaten and bruised. I love ryona. I literally fucking cheered.

>>281127482 (OP)
I'll preface this saying I liked the animation and I like the art direction.

Tried watching it today after weeks of insisting from my gf. What a fucking miserable thing. I don't like a single one of the characters and they're trying to make me care about them just on their archetypes alone? They should've held on to the suicide part until at least the last part of the first episode after there's any kind of relationship between the characters. There's just no impact as it is. I see the writing on the wall "boohoo everyone is miserable and being happy is not so simple boohoo the actions of others ripple through other people's lives not everyone is either good or evil etc" But that story doesn't work for me if after 40 minutes I have no character to root for.

Does anything happen that might actually make me do a 180 on the show if I keep watching? or is it just developing the characters as you'd expect for this kind of story?

Takopi is too precious for this world

>>281141045
Not him but
>>You're holding an abused and neglected elementary schooler to a high standard.
is right, you should kys.

>>281143799
>If you knew you were extremely evil in another timeline, would that affect the current you?
I know I've done some horribly evil stuff in other realities because that's what I believe dreams are and let me tell you, the things I've done in my dreams would make Satan blush.
I also saved some people and was a generally nice guy in some dreams so there's that

>>281143679
>Yuri timeline where Shizuka is still kinda manipulative but her feelings for Marina are true, and Marina is still kinda abusive but at the same time she'd destroy anyone that would mentally or physically hurt Shizuka
>Azuma is married and becomes a Therapist and both of them are his patients.

>>281145573
OUT OF 10!

>>281150093
>unironically defending the shit marina did
nah hang yourself simp
her shit wouldn't fly even in lawless third world countries and you are defending her for free like a retard

WTF are you talking about? Reddit loves this show

>>281149088
I bet Marina always cry and flinches when having S/D sex with Shizuka. Shizuka's probably getting real tired of doing mommy play.

>>281150350
>NOOO YOU MUST MURDER THE 10 YEAR OLD!!!!
Nah, you're deranged.

>>281150403
thats marinas mindset + the 10 year old's dog simpy

>>281150627
>NOOOO A 10 YEAR OLD HAS THE SAME LEVEL OF COGNITIVE DISSONANCE AS A FULLY GROWN ADULT!! I'M NOT A NUTCASE I SWEAR!

>>281150738
>more strawman
gonna quote another phrase that nobody said in order to defend your little psycho criminal, simp?

>>281127482 (OP)
Ichinose's family sins is getting an anime too isn't it? I hate this faggot world, I hate normalniggers
I legitimately cannot believe this is happening, I am actually mad about this.

>>281127482 (OP)
because it sucks?

>>281150814
>muh strawman

>>281151235
>NOOOO MARINA DINDU NUFFIN SHE WAS A GOOD GURL I PROMISE
lmao get fucked fag

>>281151268
Oh, she definitely did something and that something is making you seethe since episode/chapter 1.

>>281127482 (OP)
style over substance,anime....
....of the season

>>281151293
>already backing off
thats right bitch

>>281127482 (OP)
saw a few clips and I guess the girl kills herself at some point so I just presumed it was misery porn so I avoided it. Am i wrong here?

>>281127482 (OP)
I read the manga and it's just misery porn.
I don't need to experience it a second time.

It's a happy handshake-pi!
;_;

>>281127482 (OP)
If I want to watch a "look how everyone suffers but get at the end a regular to happy ending" I would watch any of the multiple Mexican tv novels, like it's the fucking same formula, the main difference is this is shorter and Japanese

>>281127482 (OP)
gonna check it out tonight, what am I in for

>>281152111
Despair

>>281152111
Sexbian les

>>281152111
Four episodes of depression, followed by one episode of confusion, and then one episode of catharsis.

>>281152111
Overacting

You crybabies are gonna lose your shit when this becomes the critics' choIce for AOTC in 2099

>>281152294
To be fair, the fact that it is capable of emotionally affecting people this much means it achieved what it was trying to do.
That doesn't mean I have to like it.

>>281138175
this
>>281136722
There's about 3 conflicting things going on:
- people were deeply moved by the story which was sad and because it was extremely well written and acted with realistic characters, and relatable for many kind of people, bully, victim, rich kid
- plotfags missing the point. These people are either genuinely OCD about having logically complicated plot and have it be "perfect" with crystal clear framework for magic etc. This show wasn't about magic, it was just a spice. The rewind magic is a narrative tool to play with what ifs, the rewind asspull simply is not important. If you want the real story, Shizuka just killed herself after being bullied, end of story. And all the other magic gadgets were utterly useless.
- genuinely uncomfortable truths about life (most people actually don't want to accept reality or look too deep into it), like how helpless kids are under the influence of bad parents and how out of control said parents are anyway. Almost like there's no god or free will running the show (scary). "manipulative", "misery porn bad", either because this is the acceptable contrarian opinion or because realistic depictions of violent abuse is just too much and they want to look away (which is natural, only members of our sick society want to immerse themselves in this. It's to trigger healing.)

>>281151724
She kills herself in ep 1 but there are multiple timelines. Yes, it's misery porn, and there are also a few heartwarming moments and suggestions for balance.

Moral of the story: happiness is suffering together

>>281127482 (OP)
I haven't watched this anime yet but I want her to Takopee in my mouth

I wish we got to see how Nu-Marina and Nu-Shizuka interacted as teenage best friends/sluts...

>>281152596
Moral of the story: cut toxic people from your life ASAP

>>281127482 (OP)
I can't watch it. From what I already watched and from what I heard, it's a lot about abandonment issues. I got a lot of that, and I can't stand to see it again even in fiction.

Did Junya have any character flaws I missed? The cliché is prodigies are jealous of the "easy" life their siblings have, but this dude just exists to make Naoki look bad.

>>281152900
He sucks at Monster HUnter

>>281152915
Ah yeah, that terrible flaw that his girlfriend loves.

>>281152578
>but there are multiple timelines
That's not how it works. He rewinds time, not jumps into a different timeline.

>>281153013
The big clock on the happy planet creates new timelines. The camera just created a Save State basically though, yeah.

>>281152196
if this anime confuses you at all then not sure what to say. They even go out of the way to explicitly spoon-feed dialogue to make it crystal clear.

>>281153188
Does it? The big clock rewound and the display time changed so I think it just rewinds time too.

>>281127482 (OP)
There's no fanservice.

>>281143485
>>281143799
This anime teach us Hitler was a nice guy.

>>281153279
there are no timelines, the anime is simple.
The only "timeline" is singular and current revolving around Takopi. The flashback you see with the older Marina is chronologically the first thing that happens.

>>281148963
To be fair, after episode 2 my hate for Shizuka never withered.

>>281152111
God tier comedy, your sides will abandon you every episode. guaranteed.

>>281153409
I did laugh at OctoMari feeding Shizuka.

The funniest thing about Takopii was Warm Piss fags trying to review bombing it because it completely mogged it's return season. Muh kuma getting NTR to death cuck kino arc!

>>281154244
This makes more sense than the guy crying over the word that start with M.

>>281127482 (OP)
The final episode and the ending was pretty underwhelming.

>>281127482 (OP)
because it's mid as hell

>>281154406
>mal review
>mid
Retard or troll? Probably both.

I dont get the ending
it seems takopi used camera one last time but it cost him his life.
but the original plan was go back in time, kill shizuka, so Marina would be happy?
what made him change his mind? I was expecting Takopi to turn into Lovecraftian horror when shizuka started attacking him.
why did mangaka absolutely job the ending? Episode 5 cemented that shizuka is villian and Marina is the true MC. You can't botch the ending this bad and expect to have rating higher than Frieren.

>>281152703
OCTO MOM WAS RIGHT!
also thy olde Monogatari("Stories" for you plebs) phrase that "People save themselves" rings true.

>>281154406
>mal
>animes
>blatant ESL
lol lmao

>>281129551
Unironically this put the ending into a perspective for me that greatly improved my enjoyment of it.

>>281154634
but everything he said was true

>>281154494
Because he spent all that time with shizuka and realized he didn't want to kill her. He wanted both of them to be happy. Neither of them were villains either, just kids badly influenced by their environments and doing horrible things as a result.

>>281154634
Where's the lie in that review though?

>>281154406
Waiting for someone to refute.

>>281127482 (OP)
>suffering porn isn't slop

>>281135495
City is a feel-good gag manga about a bunch of cute people doing funny things. Takopi is a manga about a collection of the most miserable and catastrophically unlucky children to have ever existed doing miserable and cruel things.

>>281154716
>>281154729
it's an opinion written out in broken english and enveloped by a food analogy. the reviewer overtly discredited himself therefore there's nothing of value to take from what he said let alone consider for discourse.

>>281130083
>>281145666
I feel like that's downplaying Shizuka's mom's behavior a lot. She never beat Shizuka or anything, but she was an incredibly neglectful mom who treated Shizuka more like an annoying roommate who caused problems for her more than a daughter she was meant to love and care for. She saw her backpack, saw how she'd come home covered in bruises, and never did anything about it. The absence of her mother in nearly every aspect of her life is precisely what makes her such a horrible mom.

>>281154818
You do know that people who don't speak English can have fine opinions on the anime they've watched, right? You DO know that ESL encapsulates the ENTIRETY of Japan, right? It's retarded to scream "ESL! ESL!" at something that comes from a country that doesn't speak English.
>overtly
I do not think that means what you think it means

>>281154406
>IT'S GOOD BUT NEEDS MORE LIKE ISEKAI SLOP WITH FANSERVICE AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVORINGS

>>281152900
He's not supposed to have flaws, making him flawed just because it's "realistic" would be way too cynical. Junya genuinely loving his brother enough to sacrifice himself for him is a better plotline than him just being a piece of shit who puts him down to make himself feel better.

>>281154934
>like an annoying roommate who caused problems for her
Where are you getting the annoying and troublesome parts? I only saw her looking slightly tired, not even disappointed or angry when Shizuka did cause a problem for her even tho it wasnt her fault at all. Being left to have fun however you like and not being scolded for anything is a dream come true for any kid and Shizuka looks happy when she's with Chappy not her mom. Her mother is just someone who pays the bills for a roof over your head and puts food on the table and that's all she's legally obliged to do. They just coexist
>never did anything about it
What was she supposed to do when the teachers already knew about the abuse?
>dhe has no money to lawyer up
>she has no money for a new house so she can move to a different village with a different school
>she's on benefits so she has no leverages
>she can't risk the child services taking Shizuka away to a foster home
>she has no husband to take care of the kid
>she (probably) knows the one doing it is the daughter of her top patron and source of income but doesn't know why and neither does Shizuka
What was she supposed to do? She's a garbage mother but she's trying her best. Was she to have a friendly chat telling her daughter everything will be daijobu which is the most obvious fucking lie and would change nothing? That would do more damage than just letting Shizuka deal with it. When you can't help someone don't get in their way just to pat yourself on the back pretending you made them feel better when you didn't

>>281155145
He's also autistic about wasting his gift and earning everything the hard way

>>281155037
What are you even sperging out about? The guy is clearly retarded regardless of whether he has the language abilities to express his bad opinion or not.

>>281154779
Yurifags disgust me

>>281155231
His opinion is correct. You're just a doe-eyed newfag fresh off the CGDCT/shounentard train who hasn't seen le dark anime before. Go watch Satoshi Kon or something like that then come back to this honest-to-God boring anime. See >>281147332
>The guy is clearly retarded regardless of whether he has the language abilities to express his bad opinion or not.
Then why mention it?
>picrel
"overtly" implies intentionality, retard. If you've ever used it outside of your Freshman English class you'd know that.

>>281133094
Extremely correct post anon. I was having such a hard time getting this to click in my head for the longest time because I was trying to use my adult brain that handles adult problems to contextualize an ending about 9 year olds being 9 years old. Magic had nothing to do with them becoming friends in the end, they just finally noticed something they had in common with each other. Literally that fucking simple.

>>281154406
I hate niggers.

>>281130306
>every single adult in the series is a retard at best and a pyschotic monster
See: East Asia

>>281130306
>every single adult in the series is a retard at best and a pyschotic monster at worst
See: East Asia
>>281154788
OP just gratuated from shounenshit prease understandu

It's obviously not healthy for Azuma to become a turbo simp but it still rubbed me the wrong way that he didn't even try to help her. Feel like his ending would be vastly improved if he at least attempted to stop the bullying but without the saviorfag complex, like the fact that he never spoke to anyone about the bullying because he wanted to be the one to save her is never addressed

>>281155387
He didn't have the wherewithal to do it in the original timeline, and fighting with his brother wouldn't have made him capable of doing in the final timeline. The only thing that changed is that he's no longer tripped up about it to the point where he ignores everyone else. Maybe with the increased self-confidence from having friends he could help, but that would take a long time to build up and certainly wouldn't happen immediately.

they should have shared azuma and scissored with his dick in the middle

>>281155310
Yeah yeah you like sniffing your own farts whatever pseud. Imagine trying to call out someone for word usage and being wrong. Read more books.

>>281154768
>>281154729
He spends the entire time talking about the good aspects about the show, briefly writes out some accurate observations about the characters and then says that he didn't like it because it was dry dish. Next he insults the entire viewerbase by saying that only children like it while comparing it to one of the most popular pieces of scifi entertainment that's clearly aimed at adolescents. Adds a generic "poor plot and weak characters" (completely made up with no elaboration) in the beginning because the review looks too positive otherwise. His main problem with the show seems to be its realism, characters not being attractive and ideal enough with colorful hair. There wasn't enough wish-fulfillment to fuel his escapism. His favourite shows are SAO, some isekai and Bleach.

>>281155470
Bot level post
>Imagine trying to call out someone for word usage and being wrong
Then why did you post your image?
>Read more books.
Watch more anime, zoomer

>>281155504
>Adds a generic "poor plot and weak characters" (completely made up with no elaboration) in the beginning because the review looks too positive otherwise
This just says you really like the characters and you have the emotional need for randos to prove why they find your favorite characters boring. The characters are boring; they aren't "grounded" or "realistic" just because they aren't uguu-max moeblobs. Food Court de Mata Ashita has more realistic and grounded characters than Takopi.
Also holy FUCK a mod deleted the post referenced. That's fucking hilarious.

why is marinas mom just allowed to disfigure her daughter and get away with it

>>281155567
Same reason Marina herself was allowed to inflict anything upon Shizuka without anyone noticing

>>281155567
This anime teach us women simply get away with it.

>>281155175
>Where are you getting the annoying and troublesome parts? I only saw her looking slightly tired, not even disappointed or angry when Shizuka did cause a problem for her even tho it wasnt her fault at all.
I'm thinking mainly of the scene in episode 2. Her daughter is visibly beaten, depressed, and clearly on the verge of a complete breakdown and she's just idly texting on her work phone while telling her that chappy is going to live with her dad, not even bothering to comfort her. She ends the conversation saying "Spare me the extra trouble, will you?" before going back to work and leaving her to fix up her own dinner. Shizuka's mom isn't an emotional person, so she doesn't act visibly annoyed at Shizuka when she's upset or bothered, it's all in her mannerisms and ways of speaking to her when she's forced to. Even lines like "why are you wearing that flower in your hair" come off as attacks from her rather than genuine curiosity because her mom has shown no interest at all in her life, meaning the only reason she'd be asking that is if it was something that bothered her, if that makes sense.
>Being left to have fun however you like and not being scolded for anything is a dream come true for any kid and Shizuka looks happy when she's with Chappy not her mom. Her mother is just someone who pays the bills for a roof over your head and puts food on the table and that's all she's legally obliged to do. They just coexist
And that's the problem, they're mother and daughter, not co-inhabitants. Shizuka wants a mom (really she wants a family) and that's a big part of that rant in episode 6 when she's crying over her dad wanting nothing to do with her and her mom never being home. How she has to deal with stuff like being told she can't ride the ferry alone, being asked if her parents are home when they're not, having nobody show up to school on parents day, etc. She's alone and isolated and the one person who should be there for her just never is.

>>281127482 (OP)
>despite being an antithesis to all of the slop flooding the market
Misery porn is slop by its very nature.

Why is every NPC using "misery porn" now?
It's not even that bad, just some cheeky bullying

>>281155310
>Go watch Satoshi Kon
Get off your high horse you pretentious poser. You think Satoshi Kon is some super sekrit underground director for true fans? You're the newfag who needs to watch more anime if you don't think Satoshi Kon is entry level. Most of us here have already watched Satoshi Kon. You're not special.

>>281155631
Explain my erection then.

>>281146672
Yes god forbid a man's hard earned money isn't wasted on fucking tassels.

I can’t stop fucking thinking about this show and crying all day off and on remembering the rawness and realness of Shizuka’s breakdown and Takopi’s apology. We can all argue about whether the final resolution was satisfactory for you all, but this scene was the climax of the whole story for me that solidified this as an all timer 10/10 for me and everything after it was gravy. FWIW tho I was happy with the final resolution and I thought the show earned it and threaded the needle of finding that sweet spot to land this thing.


PEAK, PEAK, PEAK 10/10 ABSOLUTE CINEMA! THIS IS WHAT ANIME IS ALL ABOUT!

>>281155606
>She doesn't comfort her
Considering her dog just bit the daughter of your number 1 client and they threw up a fuss I'd say not being scolded is on the better side of what parents in the story are usually doing.
>the flower in the head comes off as attacks
Sounded closer to some piss poor attempt at starting a conversation. Think seeing your friend do something retarded but not funny or annoying so you just calmly ask him "what did you do that for?" without being angry or expecting an answer. It doesn't bother her but it's new and uncharacteristic so she just asks in case the answer might be interesting.
>Shizuka wants a mom (really she wants a family)
She wants a normal family. When her mom is home Shizuka still doesn't interact with her because they just have nothing to say to each other. Her mom doesn't really want to speak with her and by the looks of it Shizuka doesn't want to speak to her mom either. Half of the questions you listed from ep6 apply to most kids but Shizuka's family isn't normal so she doesn't know that because she has no friends thanks to Marina. We clearly see she becomes popular and normal-ish in the original timeline.

>>281155563
Yeah a mal screenshot got deleted. You think that's something worth making a big deal out of? You tourists who think that cancerous shit belongs here need to go back.

>>281152900
I know it's hard to accept, but some people are just perfect.

/a/ can't even make good pancakes

>>281155631
All the adults are comically evil. I bursted out laughing when her dad pretended to not know her. It's absolutely misery porn and don't fucking pretend otherwise.

>>281127482 (OP)
>antithesis to all of the slop flooding the market currently
When someone shills anime by saying "everything else is even fucking worse" instead of saying "here why it's good", then you can be 100% sure that the guy is trying to sell you on some absolute dogshit that has no leg to stand on it's own.

>>281155891
>Comically evil
>Cheating, tiger mom
All normal stuff

>>281134308
>Why does every just good manga get treated like Jesus coming back to earth when they get anime adapted? Takopi, Frieren, Oshi no ko, Dandadan.
The Frieren adaptation had a huge budget and unironically elevates the source material by sheer visuals alone and by not fucking up the pacing and story. I'm happy it was hugely popular, it was well deserved. One of those rare instances that you can be unironically happy alongside the normalfags if you're not a faggot contrarian.
Dandadan was a beautiful manga with a great hook. I have some gripes with the overall pacing and the overall structure of the manga, but it's a fairly okay read. So the anime is not the most egregious normalnigger thing to ever normalnigger.
Oshi no Ko is complete garbage and I swear I have no idea why anons defend Akasaka, shit drives me nuts. Both the manga and the anime adaptation are peak normalfag.
Takopi is normalslop by virtue of being miseryslop. There is nothing spectacular about it, quite the contrary.

>>281155631
The emotionally stunted autists are looking for a simple category that allows them to disregard the anime as being beneath them rather than the other way around. It also betrays that the absolutely hilarious comedy, the heartwarming moments, and the social critique flew right over their heads.

>>281155679
>You think Satoshi Kon is some super sekrit underground director for true fans?
No, I was just giving an example of something more original with better vision and execution. Kon's so popular he's had theater releases in America, so I don't know why you'd say all that about him. Assuming makes you look retarded, especially when you run with a BAD assumption for so long.
>>281155811
I think it's funny that this MAL screenshot got deleted. See above reply.
>big deal
I just said it was funny anon, calm down. Who put paprika in your Vagisil?

>>281155977
>social critique
I have social critique fatigue.

>>281156004
>Assuming makes you look retarded
Like you assuming people haven't watched Satoshi Kon? Yeah it made you look very retarded.
>I just said it was funny
What's funny about it? Something that's supposed to get deleted got deleted. Nothing worth mentioning there.

>>281133094
i absolutely loathe tragedy that is driven by actions that you can't get behind at all
yeah sure the whole point of tragedy is that it is completely preventable (from the point of an objective observer), but if the core motivation of a tragic hero that leads him off the cliff is something that you can never accept, then the whole affair becomes contrived nonsense
being a massive idiot is not a justification

>>281155964
>The Frieren adaptation had a huge budget and unironically elevates the source material by sheer visuals alone and by not fucking up the pacing and story. I'm happy it was hugely popular, it was well deserved. One of those rare instances that you can be unironically happy alongside the normalfags if you're not a faggot contrarian.
There's nothing special about Frieren past the third episode and the story takes a huge nosedive in the second cour. Sorry that you're a normalfag casual with casual taste.

>>281156050
I highly disagree, but probably not for the reasons you're fishing for. As I said, if you're not a huge faggot contrarian, you can simply enjoy Frieren alongside the normals and be happy about it.

>>281135828
>The anons who actually like this garbage are completely alien to me.
It's Summer. Take a wild guess at who the audience for this is.

Shizuka resolving to dismembowel her dad's children perfectly mirrors Marina driving Shizuka to suicide. They both desperately want something that's been irreversibly lost back and cope that if they just slaughter their scapegoat everything will be alright.
>>281156030
They're fucking children anon. If you can't relate to people who aren't reasonable calm and collected mildly autistic adult men like yourself then that's a you problem.

>>281156131
Shizuka didn't actually kill her half-siblings. They were returned alive a few days later.

>>281155563
I guess a fairly big part of Takopi is the main characters being children (not adolescents). For me, Takopi's children were interesting and charming and made me want to help and protect them. They acted like children and it was believable. In my experience, people who hate children are too young or immature, children just remind them of their own childhood trauma that they haven't gotten over.

Children are typically devoid of strong personality of their own and just absorb whatever they get from the environment, that's why they are "boring" in a way.
Food Court appears to be high school anime. Adolescents do already have some independent personality (they talk back). You can have a platonic or romantic relationship with an adolescent in a way you can't with children, because children just mirror back whatever you insert in them. Children as main characters are pretty rare in anime so in terms of appeal they probably get unfairly judged with adult standards by people who hate children (most of modern society).

>>281140954
Being viscerally repulsed by Takopi has nothing to do with actual, unironic contrarianism and you need to stop pretending that it does. Also, bringing up Summer is rich when this is the sort of story that appeals to the young and emotionally incontinent who can only feel something if it has this sort of hyperdrama with extreme situations and emotions.

>>281127482 (OP)
I haven't watched the anime but I did read the manga and it seemed pointlessly edgy/depressing, like punpun

>>281156145
I know, but she resolved to do it. You can argue why she wasn't able to when Marina was, personally I blame Takopi.

>>281156015
likewise
>>281156028
So you watched at least one Kon anime and you still think this is great? I get that you want to fuck Takopi but you don't need to defend this mediocre show with your life like this. Stop grasping at straws; you're acting like a petulant child.
>What's funny about it? Something that's supposed to get deleted got deleted. Nothing worth mentioning there.
You forgot to space out your replies to act like you weren't sockpupetting
>>281156083
If he has reasons to not enjoy it why should he be pressured to do so? Just to not be called a contrarian by (You)?
>>281135828
To be fair the manga's a oneshot. There are some exceptions but the producers are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

>>281156131
>If you can't relate to people who aren't reasonable calm and collected mildly autistic adult men like yourself then that's a you problem.
The point of growing up is to understand children from a grown standpoint, not relate with them. If that anon doesn't like watching retard kids act like retards in bad situationsthen that's his perogative
>>281156151
Mitsuboshi colors had child characters with distinct personalities that acted like children. Granted they weren't under massive amounts of emotional abuse, but Takopi's characters are still cut-and-dry as far as anime's central casting goes
>>281140954
>It's just more loud and obnoxious now.
No, they've always been loud and obnoxious. There's just more of them now that the zoomers who grew up on r/4chan and YouTube greentext compilations have become a sizeable chunk of the userbase. They think that the bitter 2014 newfags are the oldfags whose behavior they ought to replicate.

>>281156193
>If he has reasons to not enjoy it why should he be pressured to do so? Just to not be called a contrarian by (You)?
Are you just saying randumb stuff? If you're not the person I was replying to, why the fuck are you even insinuating yourself in this particular comment chain?

I swear that /a/ wasn't like this before.

>>281155631
>NPC
you're using this wrong too. NPCs aren't human. though 90 percent of 4chins might be bots.

as for "Misery Pron" . methink "emotional pornography" is more proper.

>>281156257
>as for "Misery Pron" . methink "emotional pornography" is more proper.
Misery porn makes sense in this case since this is clearly the focus.

If I thought Goodnight Pun Pun also kinda shit the bed in the final 1/4th or so, but particularly the ending, would I like this? It also felt emotionally manipulative at times and veered too far into misery porn but overall was worth reading.

>>281156177
It's a mix of Asanoslop with the Doraemon subversion bullshit of DDDD.

>>281156317
It helps that the story is just two volumes long. It's like that old Norm MacDonald joke about if you're going to be fucked in the ass, might as well be a small thin dick.

>>281156193
>So you watched at least one Kon anime and you still think this is great?
I watched most of his anime and think Takopi is great, as did most people who've watched both. What are you going to do about it?
>you don't need to defend this mediocre show with your life like this
Why are you so threatened by people refuting your points? You should stop making up reasons to attack the show.
>You forgot to space out your replies to act like you weren't sockpupetting
Not what sockpuppet means, newfag. Why do you assume I was pretending to be a different person? Is that something you do often? Now stop trying to weasel out of the question. What did you find so funny about it, mal tourist?

>>281156167
>Being viscerally repulsed by Takopi
Oh grow up already. Stop being such a drama queen.

>>281156375
I'm not sure you know what "drama queen" means. I can rephrase what I said in whatever way you want. Lets try this one out: Takopi is a story that deeply disgusts me. If you wish to hear my opinions, ask. If you don't care for them, that is perfectly fine. But don't go on to throw silly snide remarks that don't even make sense.

>>281156400
>I can rephrase what I said in whatever way you want. Lets try this one out: Takopi is a story that deeply disgusts me.
Alright, let me try to rephrase what I said: stop overreacting.

>>281156432
My genuine reaction to this story cannot, by definition, be an overreaction. Unless I was mentally unstable, which I do not think I am.

>>281156441
nta but when you describe your disgust with the story as "deep" and "visceral" it does come off as an overreaction
>by definition
definition of what?

>>281156220
>If you're not the person I was replying to, why the fuck are you even insinuating yourself in this particular comment chain?
Because this is an anonymous imageboard and I can insert myself into your gay little discussion whenever the fuck I feel like it.
>>281156346
Oh god, you again
>What are you going to do about it?
I'll think that you have a really bad grasp on writing quality and probably think Diary of a Wimpy Kid is comparable to Mishima's works.
>You should stop making up reasons to attack the show.
Lole, desperate.
>>281156346
>Not what sockpuppet means, newfag
It does, but you're the overt holder of "oldfag" knowledg, overtly.
>Why do you assume I was pretending to be a different person?
Because you spaced out your replies instead of deleting your old post and reformatting. Or do you not know how to do that yet? Inb4 "I-It's too much effort"
>Now stop trying to weasel out of the question
What question you desparate tard? Me saying the deletion of the screenshoot was funny in the context of all the sumemrfags and sharteens occupying this thread? Figure it out yourself.

Go fuck a dead octopus if you like the show so much. Jesus Christ...

>>281156481
>definition of what?
What other definition than you knowing your own heart and understanding what you find off-putting? This applies to everyone. Unless you're unstable for whatever reason. And I tend to not uncharitably assume I am speaking to unstable people.

>>281156481
I find those to be pretty standard sentiments for misery porn
>oh no, my dog got murdered and now the bukllies are pouring week old cup noodles into my shirt and beating me with a bat

>>281156513
>now the bukllies are pouring week old cup noodles into my shirt and beating me with a bat
They didn't do that

>>281156502
Mass replying is improper imageboard etiquette. But you're trying to present yourself as an "oldfag". Quite unconvincingly, I must say. You are not so important nor are your opinions so valuable that you need to reply to everything and everyone, so please try to exercise some self-control.

what a kino ending

>>281156502
>I'll think that you have a really bad grasp on writing quality and probably think Diary of a Wimpy Kid is comparable to Mishima's works.
Good thing your opinion is worthless
>It does
No, sockpuppet refers to accounts. You're thinking of a different word.
>Because you spaced out your replies instead of deleting your old post and reformatting
Why should I do that? I was replying to two different posts.
>Me saying the deletion of the screenshoot was funny in the context of all the sumemrfags and sharteens occupying this thread?
Well you are in this thread after all so that's true. And you thought a mal screenshot was worth discussing. You were probably even the one who posted it.

>>281156529
No, I'm conglomerating standardized suffering porn into a single mass.

I liked it.

>>281156543
>Mass replying is improper imageboard etiquette
Bumping a kuso thread several times also is, so pick your battles
>But you're trying to present yourself as an "oldfag"
I'm not. I never said I was. Why do you keep assuming the wrong things? Stop trying, you're shit at it.
>>281156567
>No, sockpuppet refers to accounts. You're thinking of a different word.
Samefagging has a different use case.
>You were probably even the one who posted it.
See above.

Whatever man, the show is 5/10. Your whining won't change that.
>>281156546
See, now THIS is good shit.

>>281156652
>Bumping a kuso thread several times also is, so pick your battles
So, exactly what you're doing right now? Or did you forget to sage? What is your point?

>>281156652
>Whatever man, the show is 5/10. Your whining won't change that.
Ironic that you're spending all your time whining about other people rating it highly

>Marina becoming like her father, spending all her money spoiling some broke whore girl
>Shizuka becoming like her mother, taking advantage of her beauty
>they’re now each other’s emotional parasite who constantly emotionally and sexually abuse eachother because it’s the only way they can comprehend affection
You can’t convince me this isn’t hot as fuck

Only thing that doesn't make sense to me is that Marina had already shown that she had absolute no interest in talking things over when Takopii was disguised as Shizuka but she was willing to stop over a stupid drawing, and really that Marina had not yet interacted with Takopii

I feel like a lot of you guys are just retarded

>>281156679
you're in the retard trap thread. What did you expect?

Takopi...

>>281156677
imagine being this low iq. not saying that the plot/asspull is good, but not being able to understand what happened... like how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning LEVEL OF RETARDNESS

Wait, why was Azuma completely forgotten in the ending? Where the hell was he?

>>281156832
It would be too awkward if he was dating one of the girls and not the other, and we already know his feelings for kuze so he can't be "just friends" with them either

But honestly Azuma's whole family situation was a complete red herring, he was never in that bad of a situation even in the "bad" timelines

>>281136623
I'm sorry it's all my fault.
I sold a random Anon a "Anime Critique" license for $200.
I didn't expect him to head directly to /a/.

>>281138616
You can get dopamine from a good workout, eating an apple, or taking part in a hobby. You can also get dopamine by shooting heroine. Some emotional manipulation is selling you a workout, some emotional manipulation is selling you heroine.

>>281156832
He moved on from being a simp and now with the stronger relationship with his brother is looksmaxxing and now gets bitches falling for him instead and works out and has chiseled greek statue physique

>>281156676
>Shizuka constantly using her whore charms to manipulate Marina to buy her more makeup

>>281156677
It's just magic dude.

>>281156870
It's just kinda weird because he was so involved with them in the story and then they didn't even give him any conclusion

>haha this suffering slop can't do shit to me, i'm so desensitized
>cry for Marina
>cry for Azuma
>cry for Shizuka
>cry for Takopi
huh I guess I'm not as tough as I thought

>>281145573
10 dudes already at her age? What a slut!

>>281157055
His conclusion was to go play ps4 with his friends. Back then I was a bit annoyed that they didn't show him as an adult in one of the last Pages. Maybe they could have shown a shot of him with his new friends passing in front of that store where Marina and Shizuka recognized the ballpen

>>281157268
>>cry for Marina
never
>>cry for Azuma
why? he didn't suffer at all and is the only real winner even tho his fake friends will leave him when they realize bloodbornestation isn't that interesting

>>281157268
This was the only scene that got me

more like takopi's original deus ex machina LMAO

>>281157510
uhh based?

>>281157499
this, so much this.. if you don't ToT at this ur fucking GAY

>>281157268
>cry for Shizuka
Ruined, you got manipulated.

>>281157615
I don't remember this scene

>>281140521
I didn't even watch past episode 1 because I could already predict how it was going to go down and the shock/plot felt cheap and tasteless. Like I felt bad but it felt like the author wanted to insert the fucked up things just for the shock instead of letting the plot play out naturally and having more restraint.
Only entered this thread because the board is flooded with this shit, I assume either the octopus or dog died

>>281128633
then stop acting like it

BIG BRO OWNED AGAIN REEEEEEEEEE

>>281157827
What they are playing?

>>281157268
>>281157467
Cried for Shizuka and unexpectedly Takopi, even though he's just a stupid alien animal. Also cried for Marina's mom about losing her child.
Didn't cry for Azuma. With men, it's winners win, losers lose, and he was just a loser. Come back when you're doctor.
While I empathized with her, I didn't remember crying for Marina, and watching her be in terror while getting abused by her mom was kinda hot to be honest. Not sure why Shizuka's suffering wasn't as hot, Shizuka I just want to hug and headpat and wish everything got better. Maybe evil, fake and liar bitches like Marina are just supposed to get beaten. I mean she's just a child and it was ultimately her parents fault but still. Someone help me understand this?

>>281157859
Aristocunts II

>>281157881
Internalized misandry

Things wouldn't have been so bad if Takopi was never there. No one dies in that timeline, but I guess you could argue Marina's mom could eventually snap. There's really nothing stopping that from happening in the "good" ending

>>281157918
Anon is probably a guy. He's just projecting the lingering resentment of no one helping him when he was having a hard time

>>281157628
Crying for Shizuka was the most justified. She was worst off them all and did nothing wrong except after everyone betrayed her (including Azuma, dad and even Takopi, and even Chappy was taken away). She was all alone. Marina at least had peers that sided with her in the murder case and wasn't bullied and beaten in school daily, though her mom sometimes had nervous breakdowns.

>>281157615
I cry everytime...

>>281157634
AI video is good now, get with the times

>>281157969
Shizuka's real wish that she mentions at the beginning of the last episode was probably "not to be alone anymore", the same with Marina. Virtually not much changed, but at least their wish to have someone to support them was fulfilled.

>>281157969
YES THAT'S THE SIN
That therein is Takopii's Original Sin, that's the show, I don't care how you want to apply the rest of anything in the series but the root situation is borne from Takopii's innocence and naievete and pride. He scorned his mother and committed to kill and this sin does nothing but cause trouble for everyone else. It inspires and enables further sin, amplifying the wrongs of the whores and wrathful victims in this town. The only way for Takopii to atone is to sacrifice himself for the salvation of these girls, and the presence and acceptance of his spirit wipes away the effect of this primary sin. I can not believe how many people in these threads miss the Christ figure allegory so I am spelling it out for you

>>281157693
Based on first episode you probably thought that they would abuse the rewind for the entire show to put the characters in progressively worse situations like in Life is Strange, and you were wrong.

>>281158079
Still doesn't solve Marina's mom being a ticking time bomb.

>>281158111
>you probably thought that they would abuse the rewind for the entire show to put the characters in progressively worse situations
No, I figured that fucked up shit would happen and the octopus would misinterpret it for a while until he either has to sacrifice himself or someone who is mostly good has to do it instead (like the dog). I expect that the level of fucked up stuff remains about the same thoughout

>>281158112
There's a whole lot it doesn't solve, it's not supposed to make everything paradise. Christ's resurrection didn't bring heaven on earth either, nor does baptism guarantee a child will be pious and godly his whole life. The point is to forgive innate sinfulness, not to make everything sunshine and rainbows

The blow up of yuri art from JP twitter is glorious

>>281158079
This part is a bit confusing. In the first Takopi timeline with Shizuka hangs herself using the happy rope, and died? Then in Marina's timeline there's the rumor is Shizuka hanged herself but the rope broke. So the rope she used in Marina's timeline was weak and broke, but the happy rope from Takopi was strong and she died? Also, the Shizuka timeline happened BEFORE Marina's timeline (in Takopi's perspective, though it was at the later high school time), therefore, at this time Takopi had the resolve to kill Shizuka. However, he got his memories wiped so he didn't remember that, and accidentally helped Shizuka kill herself anyway? Is this just an ironic coincidence or does it have some meaning?
>>281158079
>YES THAT'S THE SIN
What is? Takopi trying to help them and being naive? Weren't Happians supposed to do that? I mean he broke the rule about not letting people use the gadgets without supervision by giving Shizuka the rope, but this was AFTER he already committed the sin and was banished, thus the sin must have happened in Marina's timeline.
>Christ figure allegory
But Jesus didn't do the sin? He died for the original sin that the people committed? I don't quite understand this. Is this entire allegory within the Happian race or related to humans somehow? The humans are clearly suffering on Earth but is this for some original sin or because life is hard?

Fuck this only has 6 episodes, going to read other author works i guess

>>281158313
Don't do it.
It's shit

>>281138822
>barely anyone paid attention to
Now you know you're talking out of your ass. It wasn't a gangbusters seller sure but it did put taizan on the map and it was trending during its run

>>281158313
>>281158326
It has its moments

>>281158346
Post Kys5.png

>>281127482 (OP)
>Takopi's Original Sin has gotten so little attention

This shit is everywhere now, one of the most popular series out there. Fucking newfag, who don't know how to check popularity.

>>281158298
It's an allegory, not a 1:1 retelling. You can think of Planet Happy as the garden of Eden. Rather than being crucified as an act of grace on behalf of the father, takopii (christ) is made to sacrifice himself out of guilt. When you consider that Adam & Eve were also God's children and Christ is also God and God's child, it's an interesting perspective.
In the original timeline (takopii with marina in episode 5) Shizuka was still alive and probably doing fine, yes, but Takopii was literally biblically naive and committed the aforementioned sins in the face of suffering, in turn causing further sin. Scorning his mother and committing to kill. The show was just a drawn out crucifixion to forgive this sin and let the two reconcile once it had been forgiven.

>>281158257
I cannot tell you how glad I am that artists switched to yuri. I was starting to feel bad at how often i saw pictures of rape and abuse from the artists I follow

>>281157987
>falling for whore propaganda
ngmi

>Thought i hated the show for most of the time i watched it
>almost everyone is comically an asshole, especially the adults
>Junya is the only genuine good person in the show but that only came from him being a perfect prodigy, dude would have been one of those perfect main character in a romcom anime
>Takopi is almost too annoying, he's just too stupid to understand human emotions and everytime he made things worst, it was just comical, kinda hated with just how useless he was
>still end up bawling my eyes out when the girls somewhat remember him through his drawing...
I realized now the little dude just couldn't help himself but be stupid because he was too happy, and he just wanted everyone else be happy.
I really wish Takopi could at least talk it out with his mama-pi one last time.

>>281127482 (OP)
Everyone that abused my best friend takopi should be flayed alive.
I hate women so much its unreal.

>>281158590
Probably the saddest part for me was him lamenting not being able to talk to mama-pi before leaving.
That bit hurt me-pi.

>>281127482 (OP)
I really thought there was gonna be a twist where it turns out Azuma was being brainwashed by Shizuka since it was suspicious how much he went along with Shizuka's request in a hypnotic state, especially with the hearts in his eyes.
But no it turns out he really was just down that bad. I expected Shizuka used the reconciliation rope thing on him since we never really end up knowing what it actually does.
Imagine if that one gadget was the one that would have solved all of their issues if it was used properly.

>>281158786
Funny how Marina accuses Shizuka of using men like her mother and it actually turns out to be true.

>>281157499
Shizuka trying to bash Takopi's squishy skull in while screaming what she was supposed to do and the whole montage after hit me already pretty hard

>>281159108
It just shows how similar they are to their mothers.
Marina is violent and abusive like her mine and Shizuka can wrap men around her fingers like her mom.

>>281159238
For me it's when Takopi was holding onto Shizuka's hand and wouldn't let go.

>>281155964
>you can be unironically happy alongside the normalfags if you're not a faggot contrarian
>Takopi is normalslop by virtue of being miseryslop
lmao

>>281157634
buy blurays

Marina's 'Love' shirt is so stupid and cheesy, she's so cute

>>281131398
This is almost "native isekai" reaching

>>281127482 (OP)
It got little attention because it's an ONA and a bit weird. It's got great background art though. It's great that it has so much 2D so I agree it's better than the other slop out right now in that sense.