what happened

>>281132665 (OP)
Anime is good and people noticed.

>>281132665 (OP)
The short answer is that it's good.

>>281132665 (OP)
jews killed western entertainment. no prizes for how

>now

>>281132771
now they're using their payment monopolies to take over and kill anime

Because its good. It was always good.

The problem is that now, it is becoming worse, because the people who destroyed western animation have their claws in it.

>>281132909
Why do they hate art so much?

The globojew took notice of something it hadn't completely subverted and destroyed yet. But don't worry, they're working on it.

It became mainstream

>>281132665 (OP)
It's forced since people just want to hop onto the new trend in social media. Nobody talks about anime at all in real life.

>>281132665 (OP)
This thread is straight out of the early 2010s. I'm too lazy to look up the archives.

>>281133043
>anime being mainstream
>early 2010s
zoom you don't know shit about our secret hobby

>>281133112
Never said I was the one who posted it. That was around the time a new wave of newfags flooded our hobby.

>>281132665 (OP)
Sailor Moon, DBZ, and Pokemon.

>>281132665 (OP)
Jews ruined western nerd hobbies like LoTR, Staw wars, marvel, dc, etc. So they switched to manga, anime and gacha

Everyone i know irl who watches Anime exclusively Watches Shone, Isekai and maybe 1 or 2 older Seinen
I'll care about anime being mainstream when i see obscure 2000s anime originals can mentioned by Normalfags constantly, or when i see 70 year olds arguing about the second season of Darker Than Black or something

Anime has been mainstream as far back as I can remember. You could go to the video store at any mall and see the walls of pokemon and dbz tapes for sale.

Covid

>>281132820
This attack on Japan is easy to nootice isn't it?
Their puppet political party is winning over there too in a very organic and not suspicious way.

>>281133480
democracy is a sham

>>281132665 (OP)
>the rise and rise
who knew that when moral codes stay in place things only getter better?
japan is one of the only non-dictorial countries right now where the idea of "moral codes" still exists

>>281132665 (OP)
>BBC
>the same station which called anime as mainstream as GuP "problematic child porn"
Did they give up that narrative?

>>281132820
I'd rather see anime dying than having westoid sub-human, normalfags watching it.

>>281133248
>gacha
They can't ruin that, it was already the embodiment of ruin

>>281132665 (OP)
That news was from 2 months ago
And anime has been mainstream since forever now
>>281133003
That's also true
A lot of people in my workplace are 17-18 to early 20 somethings plays video games and have nerdy hobbies but don't watch or really care much about anime besides Naruto, but they all know about ATLA when it comes to animation

The modern state of Japan was literally built from the burning rubble by the US and has remained one of their closest allies. I find it baffling how /a/ has gotten it into their heads that the institution of anime would be any less mainstream than any of the other massive cultural exports like Mario and Hello Kitty. If you want to gatekeep what constitutes "anime" to only mean the weird otaku shit /a/ watches, then that lot isn't even mainstream in Japan

>>281132749
And part of the reason people in general have noticed is because western live action and animated TV have both completely shat the bed this past 10-15 years. You can probably count in 1 hand the amount of actually good shows from those past 10-15 past out of the hundreds and hundreds that have come out on cable, streaming, etc.

How did this vile paedophilic filth manage to break into the mainstream?

>>281133693
maybe they just saw the GuP general on /a/, I'd understand

>>281132665 (OP)
American entertainment became so garbage that even normalfags stopped watching it and switched to the entertainment to they made fun of for decades because monkey see monkey do
>>281133710
Based

>>281132749
This bad tho.

>>281132665 (OP)
RIP anime

>>281134291
when they started calling fertile teens pedo, every man became one

>>281132665 (OP)
>Modern cartoons parodied to riping off anime in terms because of the new bias towards them
>Modern cartoons being gay and retarded and liberal fuckholes
>Live Action also being gay and woke
>Everyone in their 30's watched Dragonball once as a kid and the people who mocked us are now making "Normie watches One Piece" for youtube ad revenue

Oh boy, Gookshills and Chinkshills are going to be extra insufferable

>>281132665 (OP)
Demon Slayer, China Flu, and JJK

>>281133250
>70 year olds arguing about darker than black
You're here forever.

>>281134353
Not to mention modern western cartoons look ugly as fuck. No matter where you are in the world, people will love cute things, so anime character styles in general have universal appeal.
Calarts cartoons aren't cute, nor are their 3D counterparts in Pixar/Dreamworks.

>>281132665 (OP)
Everything else got ruined by faggots and jews. Anime is actually worse than it used to be, it just hasn't spectacularly shit the bed quite like western media has.

>>281134560
Ugliness isnt a flaw, its a design choice

>>281132665 (OP)
>bbc
hehe

Ninbros...

>>281134560
What the hell is this crap?

>>281134743
Nah there's flawed ugly like Robert Crumb and there's charming ugly like Viz or Pyton.

>>281132665 (OP)
>now
welcome back from 2005

>>281132665 (OP)
autism and trannies

>>281134560
Yet most people watch battle shonen who basically draw their characters ugly as fuck

>>281132665 (OP)
autism and trannies

>>281132909
>The problem is that now, it is becoming worse, because the people who destroyed western animation have their claws in it.
There's always going to be good anime. There's just going to be a lot more bad anime to sort through to find it.

>>281134693
this is why im moving to japan. the only problem is i need to get some plastic surgery to make myself look more japanese because they'll never accept someone who looks like a foreigner (as they shouldn't)

>>281133248
They invented gacha.

>>281132665 (OP)
Anime has been mainstream for almost 20 years now. It became intertwined with western corposlop during covid

>>281133693
If they watched it, they'd call it Nazi. They didn't watch it, they just looked at memes online, so they thought it was CP.

>>281134845
I would probably enjoy One Piece a lot, but it's so fucking ugly I just give up after watching five minutes of the first episode. No way I'm getting through 1200 episodes of that shit.

>>281134560
All of these characters are more pleasing to the eye than the copy and paste job youll see in most anime.

>>281134845
>>281135142
Samefag + filtered

I must've been one of five people in 2006 in a 20km radius who has read Berserk now you see dudes with t shirts and Brand of Sacrifice tattoos EVERYWHERE. I mean Berserk is now babies first Seinen but it never used to be.

>>281132665 (OP)
Natural byproduct of western media becoming unbearably awful in recent years.

>>281135052
The main gacha games are all from china

>>281132665 (OP)
>>281132749
>>281132763
>>281132909
>>281133003
>>281133043
>>281133112
Anime has been mainstream for longer than probably most of this thread has been alive.
The term "Big Three" literally refers to the idea of anime becoming mainstream around 2006 through three series achieving dominance in western culture. Prior to that, there had been Dragon Ball Z, Yu Yu Hakusho, Sailor Moon, and Ranma, all of which were excessively popular, and before those had been Robotech.

Anime is not uniquely becoming mainstream now, we're just seeing further and further extensions of existing popularity and retards who probably only have a list of finished shows in the double digits (half of which were dubbed) going "NOOOOO THEY'RE TAKING OVER MY NICHE HOBBY".
Like, Dragon Ball got a Hollywood film over 15 years ago. It sucked and everyone hated it, but that being the general reaction was also a sign of anime's mainstream status, that it was hated for not being like the Japanese cartoon.
Fuck, remember the Final Fantasy craze? Hetalia? The entire popular American store dedicated to selling Soul Eater and Death Note t-shirts for teenage girls and their simp followers?
God I hate newfags.

>>281132665 (OP)
They say anime as if it was all anime but it's just the small amount of very popular shonenshit.

>>281136640
Always will be a gateway to many. Certainly some stay there, but many don't.

>>281132665 (OP)
>retarded niggas on /a/ will see headlines like this and go "nooooooo anime was actually mainstream since the 90s because DBZ aired or the 60s because speed racer aired"
I don't know why it's so hard to admit anime went mainstream and stopped being a subculture in the early 10s

>>281132665 (OP)
4kids

>>281135212
>I mean Berserk is now babies first Seinen but it never used to be.
No, it always was. Maybe not in the early 90s but at least since the internet existed.

>>281132665 (OP)
>A medium that allowed women to be sexual, could and frequently did allow for male power fantasies, and was exotic and different from Hollywood garbage got popular
No shit it got popular. It's why they're trying to censor it.

>>281137821
Yep. I recall seeing brand of sacrifice accessories at the first con I attended, and other kids recommending Berserk even though we were too young to understand it.

>>281137512
Anime itself was never a subculture beyond the 70s/80s.

they just went and said it huh

>>281137512
I'm not going to let people born after 2000 try and gaslight me into thinking anime only started becoming popular after 2010.

>>281138354
It's been a steady climb but even with the explosion around early AoT, it didn't start becoming obnoxious until much more recently. As >>281135057 said, it's a lot more corporate now, at least in the west.

>>281137512
Zoomers who don't remember anime stopping being a thing in response to cringe from Narutards probably were the Narutards

>>281132665 (OP)
Hollywood spiraled into its own asshole.

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>>281132665 (OP)
Western shit is in a death spiral after two decades of being tranny BLM propaganda

Anime isn't actually good, it's just the preferable alternative to America's infatuation with ugliness and filth.

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>>281132665 (OP)
>anime is mainstream
Don’t get too excited weeb, it’s still only Battle Shonen and Ghibli, aka the most normie friendly anime out there that lack any of Japan’s proclivities for weird shit such as pedophilia and incest.

Anything outside of these two genres is still as niche and mocked as it’s ever been and rightfully so.

>>281133710
>the “subhuman Westoid normalfags” in question are simply those that oppose the normalization of pedophilia and incest in their media
Damn, if being against CP and inbreeding is the mark of the “Westoid” than the West is winning.

>>281133710
>westoid
You are the normalfag, tourist
Your opinions about anime are irrelevant because you're just a bratty poser too young to even understand the subculture you pretend to represent

>>281142219
Frieren shit is mainstream
Well it might be a battle shounen I dunno I didn't watch it

Anyone else feel that everything in society is fake and gay now? I feel like everyone's walking on eggshells and afraid of saying what they really mean in case they hurt someone's feelings, which can ruin their own life.

>>281133480
It recently had a bunch of right-wingers win House of Councillor seats.

>>281138309
I just watched Sausage Party.
There's really no subtlety in western movies.

You'll get your wife now.

>>281133681
>Japan
>Moral Codes
>The society that glorifies and normalizes pedophilia and incest in their media without an ounce of shame
Good one.

>>281132665 (OP)
>what happened
What's the other option instead of consuming anime?

>>281142877
Being straight is still legal there. Yes.

>>281142951
Being attracted to the same sex is unironically less degenerate than being attracted to either kids or your close blood relatives anon…

>Visa and MC start trying to control online purchases.
>Japan immediately pushes back.
>The news makes attempts to make japanese media look juvenile and silly.
The west has fallen.

>>281142219
>>281142399
>>281142877
>>281143048
How much are you being paid to spam /a/ with your soccer mom tier opinions?

>>281143114
>”soccer mom opinions”
Damn anon, I didn’t start screeching anime needs to suddenly start banning blackjack and hookers, just pedoshit and incest, which is a reasonable opinion even the hardest core (normal) kinksters would have.

If anime just featured HBO mature-tier like gore and rape (of adults), but didn’t touch the subject of lolis or incest then neither I nor most of the non-puritan general public would have a problem with it and the entire medium itself would be ACTUALLY mainstream instead of a few select series.

>>281132665 (OP)
Anime has been popular all around the world since the 90s, for the least. Mentally ill northamericans noticing doesn't change much anything.

>>281132665 (OP)
That's not a good thing.

>>281132665 (OP)
why are people acting like we haven't known this for a long time
like anime has been mainstream since 2013

Damn, I didn't see anyone asking for it to become mainstream.
If your mainstream shit wasn't shit, you wouldn't be here.

>>281142587
No I mean my friends and wider social network can be described as progressive college students and liberal working class and everyone is very open emotionally and intellectually. It's a wonderful environment where I see random people wearing anime shirts every day and not even professors bat an eye if I suddenly use anime as a source text. In fact a grad school teachers in a recent course had one of those silly brand of sacrifice tattoos. In fact the level of genuineness in dealing with peers has only skyrocketed in the past few years; I've seen multiple sorts of humanities courses from intro to graduate level become vibrant peer groups who cry at the end of a mere semester together.

>>281132665 (OP)
>now
newfag

>>281143486
coincidentally around the same time smartphones got popular

>>281132665 (OP)
Its growing presence social media and video games made it more mainstream.

>>281142587
It is all fake and gay, including their feelings and morality.

>>281132665 (OP)
bbc dubbed urusei yatsura and are malding they didn't keep a foot in

>>281143602
>video games
Not for long, Collective Shout is coming weebs .^)

>>281143523
>Damn, I didn't see anyone asking for it to become mainstream.
This anon seems to be asking for it >>281143416

my problem isn't that it's mainstream, my problem is that only the shit animes are mainstream
so people associate animes with the most slop shit ever instead of actual good stuff

>>281133335
It was definitely not 25-30+ years ago. Internet, when it became more developed, accessible to the general public, and more incorporated into people's daily lives, definitely had a huge role to play in it becoming mainstream.

>>281143868
>only the shit animes are mainstream
You mean the ones that so coincidentally not happen to feature any lolis or incest?

>The actual good stuff
You mean all the ones that do have lolis and incest?

>>281143668
That dub was too good for its own good.

>>281134845
One Piece is ugly and memorable, those movies in the image are ugly and bland.

>>281143913
What third-world shithole do you live in that didn't have electricity or running water 30 years ago?

>>281132665 (OP)
>now
You retards have been making these kind of "anime is mainstream now" threads since 2008
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/9503104/#9503104

>>281132665 (OP)
Everything else fell dramatically leaving nothing to stop it. There's no more competition, they all just imploded in each other.
"The greatest victory is that which requires no battle." - Sun Tzu

>>281135652
hell it goes even further
my dad's favorite show growing up was gigantor

>>281143913
>>281133335
I think pokemon's insane fad has to be the defined inflection point, at least for the US. Suddenly a major fast food chain is handing out anime toys and then theaters are filled with screaming children for a movie release.

>>281144030
How the fuck did you even come to that conclusion from a sentence that implies none of that?

Prior to the 2000s (you were probably not even born yet judging from your posts):

1. People were less connected to the internet in the world.
2. Videos tapes and DVDs were your primary source for anime (which you HAD to buy or rent and not pirate or stream over the internet)
3. Locally there were not many titles to pick up because barely anything was dubbed/translated.
4. Assuming you are not in Japan those kids shows are like the few of the maybe 10 or less anime you will ever see for the next decades.

>>281144314
>1. People were less connected to the internet in the world.
Forums and discussion boards were already fairly common by 1998, and anyone into any media was on them during the 2000s.
>2. Videos tapes and DVDs were your primary source for anime (which you HAD to buy or rent and not pirate or stream over the internet)
And guess what, video stores were on every street corner.
>3. Locally there were not many titles to pick up because barely anything was dubbed/translated.
There was plenty- both bootlegs (which video stores and convenience stores would carry because they are all independent for the most part, even ones that were part of chains were individually owned and maintained) and official ones, especially during the early 2000s and late 90s.
>4. Assuming you are not in Japan those kids shows are like the few of the maybe 10 or less anime you will ever see for the next decades.
Can't even understand this through the severe ESL.

>>281132665 (OP)
>>281132749
>>281132763
Jannys seething over people knowing the right answer as usual.

>>281144032
While that's true it's different than the last gasp of western content slurping being forced to admit that when you rip the mask off it's 50% crunchyroll

>>281144723
Why is this thread filled with schizoids

>>281142734
My waifu isn't on this chart, but fuck it, maybe I'll at least get Mugi.

>>281144851
>Sodachi Oikura
I guess I'd better start watching monogatari...

>>281143048
Homosexuality is literally degenerate by the original meaning of the word. Historically prevalent forms of lesbianism and pederasty are different from the degeneration of your brain that causes true homosexuality.
And women marrying and having their first child before turning 16 was normal until 50 years ago. Normal is the opposite of degenerate.

>>281135652
I think these "why is anime popular now" threads are made by Anglosphere dwellers. Anime did always lag behind in popularity there while LatAm and Europe were getting dubbed broadcasts of anime throughout the Showa and early Heisei eras.

>>281145010
You definitely do that.
It's got both incest and pedophilia, the things that make anime great and make the thread schizo seethe.

>>281145102
Kill yourself back to /pol/

>>281145010
She cute

>>281145353
>>281145010
How many episodes is it before she even appears? 40ish?

>>281142734
Fuck it

>>281144080
my fuckin' gramps watched ultra man in B/W kek

>>281142681
>10 year old movie
Damn bro really gottem

>>281132665 (OP)
I hate normies

>>281132665 (OP)
western entertainment got pozzed and normies, even subconsciously, wanted an alternative to it
now the same jews who pozzed western entertainment are trying to take over japan

How does /a/ do it? Even with all its' flaws, it still manages to maintain a level of quality far above the other media boards.

>>281146504
>entertainment are trying

>>281146504
>jews
Kill yourself back to /pol/

>281142734
Let's see...

>>281146790
Fucking jackpot!

>>281143536
>humanities
>geniuses

>>281132665 (OP)
The worst part is that it's not anything good, just Jumpshit and other forms of entry level slop like Attack on Titan.

>>281147968
I know you might not believe in healthcare but you may want to see an optometrist lol

>>281143536
>liberal working class
Such a thing still exists?

>>281148537
In big cities yes.

Official and pirate streaming did it. Before, you had to torrent your anime, now anyone can sub to crunchyshit or google "watch one piece free online"

>>281132665 (OP)
Anons and nippon anons didn't gatekeep hard eough.

>>281144032
It's recomforting, knowing time is a flat circle.

>>281148829
You could watch anime in full (in multiple videos per episode) on Youtube at first. Youtube's copyright enforcement has gotten way stricter than it used to be. And there's always been plenty of streaming sites, though they used to be much worse than they are now.

Everyone should be made to reveal their IPs before posting in this thread. 99.9 percent must be from the US and India

>>281149015
I know dude, I was there. They were divided in 10 minute segments and had awful quality. Streaming sites too had awful quality and weren't too plentiful. Nowadays any faggot can start up an anime on their phone within 3 minutes.

>>281134560
>el ogro de las americas

>>281148456
I believe you should receive Canadian healthcare.

>>281142734
roll

>>281132665 (OP)
That's what happens when Hollywood gets caught up in decades of nepotism so nothing interesting gets created and people have to look to cartoons made in the far east for entertainment. Right now the suits in the west are reviewing this BBC article in a meeting and their conclusion isn't to make better movies and shows, but on how to best sabotage anime.

>>281134125
>>281135652

That's because we are older then you and can remember a time when anime wasn't anywhere near as mainstream as it is now.

>but but anime has been mainstream since 1998

Incorrect, you are mistaking popular and awareness of anime and of certain titles with mainstream. Anime may have stopped being obscure in 1998 in the West, but it wasn't as mainstream, as in, being everywhere like it was back in the days.

>>281151335
>That's because we are older then you and can remember a time when anime wasn't anywhere near as mainstream as it is now.
That's not how that works.
You're outing yourself as either being young or not actually watching much anime at all until recently, but there is a literal definable moment where anime "went mainstream". I mentioned it, it is a significant mover in regards to anime's influence in the west, that being the existence of a "Big Three", a term that solely exists and is used in regards to three titles in particular achieving massive success and popularity within English speaking countries at the same time.

Your later idea of anime "not being everywhere" is also fucking dumb. The only real big change is that comic book stores and game stores have anime figure sections, and even then, again, Hot Topic was a thing. Video stores were a thing. Barnes and Noble had a dedicated manga section longer than many people in this thread have been alive.

>>281151418
The manga section at B&N didn't use to be 10x larger than the western comic book section.

>>281132665 (OP)
it became easily accessible to retarded normies that didn't know how to search online for their anime

>>281151418
Like that guy said. You're confusing cultural awareness of the medium and popularity of key hit titles, with mainstream consumption and actual mainstream attention.

no niggers in anime

>>281151811
>>281151418
When I was a kid the manga shelf was maybe a few dozen titles in the far back as a side attraction to the comics section. Most recent B&N I went into had the front two rows dedicated to manga, LNs, and merch and the other local one I've seen has a manga, LNs and merch section in the back that's almost as large as the entire fiction section itself. There are even all sorts of Western knockoff LNs on the shelves too. I would have never imagined such a change back then.

>>281151418
>Your later idea of anime "not being everywhere" is also fucking dumb. The only real big change is that comic book stores and game stores have anime figure sections, and even then, again, Hot Topic was a thing. Video stores were a thing. Barnes and Noble had a dedicated manga section longer than many people in this thread have been alive.

See, saying shit like this makes me wonder if you aren't just baiting and being inflammatory because I don't know how you could remember the 2000s and see how the world is today and seriously believe nothing has changed. In late 2000s, you had suits at Disney saying 2D animation was dead. You saw anime getting dropped from broadcast television and anime in the West actually entered a slump for a brief while. Subcultures still existed and Hollywood blockbusters were still a major thing.

>>281132665 (OP)
bumpbeds

>>281132665 (OP)
>what happened
piracy and normies paying for streaming services

>>281132665 (OP)
>now

>>281153914
Copying VHS tapes and normies paying for cable

>>281154083
The good ol days...
I remember my buddy coming over after school to watch my recorded VHS tapes of Adult Swim anime

>>281132665 (OP)
>mainstream
Mainstream is an understatement
In my 3rd world shithole country, barely media-literate boomer fossils, did a fucking Naruto run on public TV

>>281132665 (OP)
>shows mostly gookshit and chinkshit
HMMMMMMMMM

>>281154624
>In my 3rd world shithole country, barely media-literate boomer fossils, did a fucking Naruto run on public TV
Behold, the total victory of the foreign policy project known as Cool Japan

>>281154624
Naruto started in 1999

>>281154083
>not having illegal cable before digital
cucked life.

>>281144032
i need to see more threads like this
It made my day

>>281132665 (OP)
>western cartoons nose-dive'd in quality in the last few years
>pandemic made people watch anything to pass the time, most normalfags know about anime now because of streaming services
>e-celebs
Some reasons I can think of

>>281133248
>Jews ruined western nerd hobbies like LoTR, Staw wars, marvel, dc, etc
marvel and dc are jews, cryptojews an ciaplants
the real problem is that old horny jews like big bad harv weinstein were replaced by younger faggy lgbtq jews who don't understand money

>>281133248
Jews and their golems, like Tolkien, literally created all of that trash
Whites created nothing, jews are behind whites coming to power

>>281155194
American cartoons weren't a mass medium to begin with. They never reached output levels to keep anybody satisfied.

>>281132665 (OP)
the jews have taken over the industry and use it to shill faggotry so now it's 'acceptable' to be an anime fan

>>281143048
it's actually more degenerate according to christianity

>>281133693
why would they need to? modern anime industry completely dropped child fanservice

>Black hole brain: Nooo...dey took er niche herbby
>Midwit: Durr...anime has always been mainstream, chuddy
>Galaxy brain: anime came to the west in waves and got progressively more popular and mainstream with each one. The VHS tape trading community, the pokemon craze, toonami, legal streaming platforms, and most recently Tiktok and the pandemic.

>>281142734
roll

>>281135652
>hetalia
Oooooh that brings back memories. When I was in school, there was an entire community of spergy emo girls that were obsessed with it. God DAMN if I could go back, I'd be elbow deep (both arms) in their Italy-obsessed clams. Fucking hell bros

>>281132665 (OP)
not enough gatekeeping and bullying

>>281132665 (OP)
capeshit has been so shitty lately that the normalfags have moved to anime

>>281151335
yes anon, things got even bigger, but it's retarded to think anime is only going mainstream now or that it was a niche hobby devoid of normalfags
death note was a big fucking deal way back when, you could not escape it.
i was a complete normalfag in high school and even i heard about death note and got roped into checking it out. naruto as well, that was EVERYWHERE, they were selling merch everywhere, everyone owned a headband and half my class regularly cosplayed. this was 2007, almost 20 years ago

>>281132749
>>281132665 (OP)
>>281135652
I'm 34 and European, through my lifetime I saw about three phases of the popularity of anime - though there were probably more. I started reading manga at 7 because my dad was very much into comic books.
>elementary and middle school phase
Anime as a whole were not popular. We had a dragon ball and 1st and 2nd generation pokemon craze in elementary school, and that was about it. After the age of 11 you were basically perceived as a weirdo for still liking stuff like One Piece instead of "growing up".

>high school phase (early 2000s)
Here I experienced a first jump in the popularity of anime and manga, but it was specifically only within emo/goth subcultures (so, I'd say, less than 20% of my class). The big threes brought boys into the media. Naruto was big. But Death Note is what made this jump: girls started appearing in comic book shops to buy gothic themed mangas (Kuroshitsuji used to be big). Internet also helped: with e-Mule and torrent, anime was the perfect internet content to download - short and easy to find. Fansubbers explode at this time. People start reading manga spoilers on the internet. We "dig" for stuff and start watching diversified things: Elfen Lied, Rozen Maiden, Haruhi, Lucky Star. In this period I'd say anime was grounded as a proper internet subculture, because more people got on the internet - although it likely existed before in other forms. Anime tropes become stronger.

>Zoomers and the pandemic
The majority of teenagers (especially gen Zs a few years ago) started engaging with the media as a proper hobby at some level. The pandemic and KNY going viral were the two milestones of this new phase - lockdowns brought lots of people on the internet, and people who never watched anime got brought in by shows like SNK. We are getting good animation, but anime tropes are getting weaker because they don't pander to the mainstream anymore. Geriatric millennials (me) complain about dying fanservice.

>>281156607
Wanted to expand a bit on the dying fanservice: for me, as a teenager, anime was not a part of everyone's life - it was a thing for people who felt different (losers, loners, autistic people, homosexuals, etc.) that circulated within a subculture. There was often a weird combination of cuteness and edginess, extreme violence for shock value and extreme infatile tenderness. I think it was because the people in the industry and the people consuming anime were mostly isolated people who struggled to grow up. Anime was giving us a platform to process feelings of being inadequate and lonely, and often also ways to talk/think about sexuality that we didn't have before (access to internet and pornography was more limited than today - no smartphones). It also made a lot of damage, I think, at least to me, in cultivating increasingly weirded out ideas of sexuality, factually making it even harder to socialize and meet girls. But it was kind of a safe place to escape to. Somehow it was also liberating to see shows for teens were sex was part of the picture, although in a deformed way - if you lived in the province, no adult wanted to talk about this stuff. Seeing horny male leads in anime made you feel like you were allowed to have certain desires (though, again: more often deformed, parodied, perverted, than healthy).
Nowadays anime is no subculture anymore, and it's not being sold to lonely weird people anymore, which means the contents are changing. I'm super happy that we're getting stuff like Chainsaw Man and JJK well animated, but I'm also a bit sad that we don't get hand-drawn mechas anymore, and that slightly fetishistic slice of life shows with cute girls don't really go viral in the community anymore. One Piece is finally almost watchable, and there's a lot of competent animators, but we also lost a bit of diversity I feel.
Anyway, I still love the media and will keep watching.

>>281144032
>people born when this thread was made will be old enough to post next year

>>281156708
i am in a similar age group and i wonder what my nephew will think of anime and manga of today. he's 11 and is reading stuff like kaiju 8 and gachiakuta. when he gets to my age, how will he remember the era he grew up in?

>>281156782
He will remember ecelebs/youtubers fondly, but very few manga and anime will stick.

>>281156856
dragon ball is gonna stick for sure. he read through all of the original manga multiple times
also kagurabachi is probably gonna stick, since he asked his dad (my brother) to buy him a katana once and he wanted a black trenchcoat

>>281132665 (OP)
I hate this new template thread like you wouldn't believe. OP is a faggot.

>>281132665 (OP)
>>281132749
>>281132820
lolis were killed and now anime is dying if not dead

>>281132665 (OP)
Because American TV has become split between reality slop and 6 hour long movie-series with insane budgets rather than focusing on what made TV fun, and anime has slipped in between the cracks and filled a content niche that would have been filled by low budget sci-fi/fantasy/mystery TV shows for younger people.

>>281133003
it's kind of amazing really
I've spent six months at the most densely late-millenial/early zoomer nerd workplace I've ever seen and everyone will talk video games and pop culture all day but nothing even remotely anime adjacent comes up

>>281142734
Doyng it!

>>281156607
If you were actually 34 you would have been in elementary school in the early 2000s, not high school. Nice try zoomer.

YEA i was watching owari scenes all morning too, what a coincidence or is it?

>>281157486
You're next pedo

>>281157934
I meant the first decade of the 2000s - I'm from 1991, I finished high school at 19 in 2010 anon
>>281158094
These were my anime friends back then :,)

How does /a/ do it? Even with all its' flaws, it still manages to maintain a level of quality far above the other media boards.

>>281156782
I don't know how he will remember it, but it's true that different age groups have different memories. Gen Zs have a very different relationship with Naruto than I have, for instance. I feel like for them it's kind of like what DB was for me.
Naruto was first published in my country when I was 12 so went through high school reading it - then when the anime came out I was already a teenager. For them, it's a kid's cartoon.
I like that we all have special relatinoships with these media coming out in different times - it's also a way we can bond cross-generationally, somehow.

>>281156708
>slightly fetishistic slice of life shows with cute girls don't really go viral in the community anymore
Do you include Ruri Rocks in this category?

(((Legacy media))) fails to deliver on the propaganda and it's showing.
Manga like One Piece or Attack on Titan required brutal fixing and as time progresses, it will only get worse.

>>281132665 (OP)
American medias have been completely unwatchable shit that actively hates it's own audience for 15 years now, it's weird it took them that long to get sick of it and look for alternatives.

>>281132665 (OP)
It's not. My mom still throws a huge hissy fit if I watch anime in front of her.

>>281158283
what happened to america
they used to make good entertainment content

>>281158283
People always say this, but I never see any concrete examples.

>>281132749
More like everything else is unbearable. It's hard to imagine nowadays how people liked movies like 15 years ago

>>281132665 (OP)
>Anime is mainstream now
>now
What is wrong with you people, were you not around when Dragon Ball, Pokémon, Yuugiou, Sailor Moon and even Gundam were the biggest things on the planet.

I really don't get people who act like it's gotten super mainstream. The only difference is that now you got a bunch more virgins who actually call it “anime” which no one did back then. People just talked about “Pokémon” and “Dragon Ball” and no one called it “anime” like a fucking permavirgin.

>>281132665 (OP)
welcome to 2015

>>281159004
>virginvirginvirgin
Nobody gives a fuck about getting laid anymore, normalfaggot.

>>281132665 (OP)
>what happened
The obvious conclusion of the rise of social isolation, and the erosion of the internet and culture.

>>281132665 (OP)
Internet made it super accessible

>>281142734
Since i'm here i might as well.

>>281132665 (OP)
Cr*nchyr*ll and n*tfl*x bet big that they could sell more 'palatable' anime to normalfags. They were correct and have now created an incentive structure where being successful in the west requires going through them, because some crazy percentage of all global anime watching happens on those platforms now. They abuse that power to fund and push a lot of the normalfaggot approved trash we see today and there's nothong we can do about it. Votong with your wallet means nothing when millions of retards vote the other way

>>281132665 (OP)
>BBC
who even cares about the BBC anymore? I think even grannies like Tsunade moved on from it.

>>281132665 (OP)
>what happened
The Internet allowed anyone to view everything.
Everyone's opinions now get added to anything.

OP is a paid shill. Stop bumping the thread.

>>281154083
>Copying VHS tapes
that was rare as shit so no
>sits on devilman OVA collection of copied VHS tapes

>>281132771
>deleted
they're afraid

>>281158574
Why? Is it just if it's something with a lot of fanservice?

Solo Leveling is saving anime.

>>281132665 (OP)
Some other anon pointed out how its mostly the popular anime at the time that are mainstream. Just like how movies are mainstream, but its rarer to find someone who knows the more niche and obscure stuff. And I am not saying anything not mainstream is automatically niche or obscure. If you bring up Cardcaptor Sakura then you will know a lot of people that like it. If you bring up Princess Tutu then there will be significantly less. It depends on the show. I think anime still has a stigma attached to it if it isn't one of the popular/well known shows.
>>281143066
>The news makes attempts to make japanese media look juvenile and silly
Hasn't that always been the case?
The news is horrific. Local news can sometimes be decent, and even then its strength is for getting local news stories and learning about upcoming events. Everything else is worse than the worst 4chan argument threads you can imagine. Nothing but logical fallacies left and right (no pun intended).

There is no secret to success

>>281132665 (OP)
everything sucks now

>>281132749
and now it degarded

solo leveling won

the juice infiltrate

>>281149015
Yup I burned to DVDs the entire OG dragon ball + Dbz directly from YouTube. I had to manually convert each clip.with a YouTube to mp4 program but it was the Mexican dub so totally worth it.

A-1 is showing the world how amazing anime can be. SAO also deserves another reboot but with the "2 years" properly adapted and uncensored. And with actually good pacing this time.