Sasuke Recovery Mission
Chapter 220: Brothers
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>>281141811 (OP)My GOAT, Dailyramen. Time to read a single chapter in color and then in black and white.
>>281141998Just look at those girly eyelashesโฆ
>>281142053Middle panel itachi looks like a girl
>>281142135I wonder if thereโs a name for this trope, where a character has to awkwardly ask a question for the sake of exposition here (e.g. Sasuke SOMEHOW not knowing that the Uchiha crest is also the police force logo)
>>281141975>flashbacknevermind i'm out
>>281141998Nagato's summons? Don't stand a chance against this technique.
>>281142239>>281142265itโs funny, the only Konoha criminal I can think of (that isnโt related to the Uchiha coup) is Mizuki, and who knows what happened to that guy (never watched any of the filler yet)
>>281142239No wonder Sasuke was so easily able to just walk out of the village with only Sakura catching on, Itachi wiped out all of the security in the massacre and good ol' Hiruzen never bothered to replace them
>>281141882>>281141905>Flashbacks within flashbacksWhat weird writing, why not just skip the 4 panels and flash straight to a scene of Sasuke watching Itachi train.
>>281142228Connected at least: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AsYouKnow
>>281141975>Time to readThat'd be a first for these generals
>>281141811 (OP)Early dump!
>>281141905>"I'll catch up">>He doesn't know
>>281142364Better than One Piece right now, with its flashback within flashbacks within flashbacks within flashbacks
>>281141811 (OP)Oh hey. It's the brown self-hating race-baiting warehouse worker!
>>281142393>AnbuSo are these guys even supposed to be better than Jonin? Their track record is so horrible that they feel like glorified Chunin shitters
>>281142135>Tobirama was supposed to make the Uchihas live in a segregated district of Konoha and make them work as cops, yet the police department is apparently in the middle of the villageHuh?
>>281141811 (OP)I wonder how quickly this thread is going to archive after the dump. Seems these generals are at their peak shitposting right now.
>>281142471>EntranceI thought he was ALREADY in the academy?
When exactly are you supposed to enter that thing?
>>281141998What would those kunais thrown by Itachi do to the Konoha girls?
Chapter 220: Brothers
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Tomorrow: Out of Reach
Something i noticed about Sasuke and Sakura's Flashbacks is that both Naruto and Hinata are oddly absent in both of them.
Like, not even in the background kind of absent.
>>281142526>TentenIntercepts it mid air with her own knife
>HinataDeflects it
>InoDodges it
>Sakuracatches it, with her forehead
>>281142464Uchiha backstory really is just the neji/hyuga stuff retold on a bigger scale
>>281142239>>281142265>NOOOO, THE HUMILIATION AT BEING THE POLICE.
Soโฆ honest thoughts on Itachi?
Iโve said it before, but while Sasuke is (understandably) considered a very polarizing character in the fanbase, Iโve always found it really weird that Itachi is so shilled despite being the epicenter of several writing problems
>>281142666>honest thoughts on Itachi?Retconned
>>281142686No warehousing today?
>>281142325>(never watched any of the filler yet)Irrelevant, non-canon bullshit, so idk why you'd bring that up.
>>281142666Iโve simply never liked this archetype of character where the gimmick is
>uh heโs actually SUPER STRONG but luckily he has some crippling ailment (thatโs still not crippling enough to where he also always has to be holding back too)That shit attracts the mega autists like candy
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>>281142471>Fine I'll go to that little faggots ceremony>Dad he's sitting right here>OhHiashi coded
>>281142666I think the Itachi is actually a good guy twist is pretty decently foreshadowed. Even before this flashback started, weโve gotten several hints that the real story is more complex than what Sasuke knows
>>281142738Name 2 other characters that fall into this archetype
>>281142728Tonight, and even then this is regular.
>>281142733Cause Iโve heard of TIGER MIZUKI but never actually watched those episodes out of curiosity
>>281142452Yeah. ANBU is supposed to above Jonin on paper, or at least be special ops within the rank, but it just isn't.
>>281142762>decently foreshadowedLol
>several hints that the real story is more complex than what Sasuke knowsLack of explanation does not equate to "hints"
>>281142666I actually like his character.
What I don't like is his fans who fail to realize the entire point of him is that he's exactly like Sasuke in how batshit insane he really is. The entire point is that he was wrong in the end. He fucked up. The entire situation was fucked but he just made it worse the way he handled Sasuke.
Real tragedy here is he gets a pass where Danzo doesn't despite Itachi being the one who actually kills his own family thinking it's the right thing to do.
>>281142648don't the japanese respect the police?
i really don't know where this came from
either the uchiha see it as a slight or dishonor because muh proud warrior heritage or its just considered a downgrade compared to being a ninja
>>281142666Interesting opinion, Satan
Anyway I disliked how, like most characters when Sasuke is involved, he lacks his own personality and character, he entirely revolves around Sasuke, and even the mention of a girlfriend is to reinforce how he sacrificed everything for Sasuke (that's why I liked the anime adding a bit to her, so we can see him caring about someone beside Sasuke). Shisui could avoid this, but he's even more of a non-character and we have no idea why they had a bond.
>>281142761Lmao the bottom right panel made me think something similar
>Man this is some real bullshit
>>281142666This arc just reinforces that I think his intelligence is supremely overrated, what with his little brother just marginally away from getting body jacked and clearly having zero backup plan for this.
>>281142811>Lack of explanation does not equate to "hints"The explanation given was inadequate in the first place
Really, more people should've doubted Itachi's motivation and wondered why Sasuke was alive to begin with if he really could kill the entire clan.
So when did you realize Sasuke's 2kewl4skewl attitude is just him trying to ape his brother
i just did
but could healthy itachi beat healthy kimimaro
>>281142666>Iโve always found it really weird that Itachi is so shilled despite being the epicenter of several writing problemsHe's just that cool and handsome. I guess he was also around at the time when edgy = cool, like early 2000's Shadow the Hedgehog kind of thing
And people really ate up the Harry Potter Snape twist
>>281142815>either the uchiha see it as a slight or dishonor because muh proud warrior heritage or its just considered a downgrade compared to being a ninjaBut they still are ninja, Sasuke goes to the academy.
My best theory is simply that Madara and Obito lied about them being humiliated and isolated by that, as they aren't the most reliable sources.
So Kishimoto puts these chapters here to answer the question, "Why would Sasuke go as far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?" He shows us the extremes of Sasuke's relationship with Itachi, the loving older brother and the murderer who ruined his life, emphasizing the dramatic height of the fall from grace. Do we really need it? I guess it drives home Sasuke's angst, but I'm not sure anyone who wasn't sold on his motivation would be won over by it.
>>281142884>Really, more people should've doubted Itachi's motivation and wondered why Sasuke was alive to begin with if he really could kill the entire clanItachi wanting to steal his eyes was a better explanation than him torturing his brother out of love.
>>281142452Not really
>>281142786Only hunter nin are supposed to be S rank
the qualification for being anbu seems to just be willing to do horrible real ninja shit for the village
>>281142868Couldn't he simply use genjutsu, at worst Kotohamatsukami, to force Orochimaru to give Sasuke back his control?
>>281143011Even that didn't make much sense because Sasuke came at him without the Mangekyo and could've lacked the potential to even have it.
>>281142949Unhealthy Itachi could beat healthy Kimimaro tbqh
If Kimi had a time skip to grow I think he'd match him
>>281143065It made more sense than
>I'm going to torture you and set you on a path of vengeance against me because I actually love you and want you to secure my eyes instead
>>281142761Hinata Raised by Fugaku would probably be well functional and never stutter, Sasuke raised by Hiashi would reach his 5KS self way earlier.
I think Itachi is also really where the shakiness of the power system starts to rear its head, by which I mean kishi just started going full retard with genjutsu
>oh you looked into my eyes? uh ggโs nerd lmao
>>281143104Hyuga are clearly Yang-aligned and Uchiha are outright stated to be Yin.
hyuga are men
uchiha are women
So is this the chapter when Kishi decided to start crafting his Itachi was actually a good guy twist? Or is he making him look like a good brother just to make it sting all the more when he kills the clan?
>>281142452Kinda.
They suffer from Worf syndrome, which is that they're supposed to be strong, so whenever the story is setting up some antagonist as being really threatening, they do it by beating some Anbus, which in turn makes them seem really weak.
Isn't it funny how part 1 introduced the top 3 worst father?
>>281142666Obnoxious Gary Stu character that the story tries too hard to make the reader feel sorry for. I've always hated him, and hated how he gets shilled by both the fans and the series.
>>281142769Kimimaro and Nagato.
>>281143118You could probably make a legitimate case that literally every single Mangekyo jutsu is written horribly, Iโm surprised the editors didnโt tardwrangle how these eyes range from chakra mechs to literally rewriting the fabric of reality
>>281143199Someone should make a tier list of shitty fathers like powerlevels from last thread. Fug would be S rank, Hiashi probably A
>>281142465its to keep a close eye on them Danzo/Tobi explains this later
>>281142666Itachi is popular precisely because so many people dislike Sasuke.
>>281143162This might be a bit far fetched but I think Kimimaroโs backstory a few chapters ago was already a hint at the Itachi twist
>Kimimaro has a powerful kekkai genkai and Orochimaru wanted to take his body to obtain it, heโs the last of his clan which was wiped out after they tried to fight against an entire village >Kimimaro has a powerful kekkai genkai and Orochimaru wanted to take his body to obtain it, heโs the last of his clan which was wiped outAnd we later learn that this was because they tried to fight against an entire village. Maybe itโs a stretch but I think this was part of the plan
>>281143264Nothing fug does is remotely close to Hiashi.
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This might be a bit far fetched but I think Kimimaroโs backstory a few chapters ago was already a hint at the Itachi twist
>Kimimaro has a powerful kekkai genkai and Orochimaru wanted to take his body to obtain it, heโs the last of his clan which was wiped out after they tried to fight against an entire village>Sasuke has a powerful kekkai genkai and Orochimaru wanted to take his body to obtain it, heโs the last of his clan which was wiped outAnd we later learn that this was because they tried to fight against an entire village. Maybe itโs a stretch but I think this was part of the plan
>>281142526Soak their underwear
>>281142393What's the deal with the Sharingan? Intent to fight, or trying to hypnotize his kid?
>>281143288Maybe if he was a better dad his son wouldn't have had to wipe out his entire clan
Or maybe that's to do with him being a bad clan leader
>>281143271to be honest it doesnโt really make much sense to me, peoplesโ beef with Sasuke is largely because of how much he spergs out from SRA onwards but thatโs also because Itachi mindraped him because uhhhh keikaku I guess
>>281142648I think it's the combination of them being village founders and being seen as outsiders by the rest of the village, even by newer clans that join the village, like the Hyuuga or Aburame. Most of the humilation aspect doesn't start until after the 9-tails attack as Obito tells the Uchiha that the rest of the village doesn't trust them because none of them showed up to help fight it and rumors of the 9 tails being controlled by an Uchiha
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>>281143154Ironic that Hyuuga produce the best girls
>>281143264>>281143288No Konoha father can match Rasa when it comes to shitty parenting
>>281143386But Sasuke is the best girl.
>emotional, but now stable>strong>completely trusting of her, I mean his, man
>>281143264I mean, trying to overthrow the government and doom your family to a bloody rebellion in the best case scenario is a pretty shitty thing to do when you're a father.
>>281143386my Byakugan Princess, Hinataโฆ
โฆand her little whore sisterโฆ
>>281143383That sounds far more plausible
>>281142815>The entire point is that he was wrong in the end. He fucked up. The entire situation was fucked but he just made it worse the way he handled Sasuke.But the series doesn't act like that. Literally every character that knows the truth about Itachi thinks of him as a messiah who never did anything wrong and keeps calling him a great hero who always made the right choice.
I mean, he probably would've been a better character if the series was more aware of his imperfections. Like, focus more on how he did agree with Danzo, and that maybe he started hating his own clan for wanting to risk a civil war with the village. Or let him actually lose against Sasuke while being sick instead of having him be an unbeatable god. Just give him at least one fucking flaw.
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>>281143405No tits though.
>>281143263Itachi's abilities were perfectly fine. A super genjutsu and a juiced up fire style ninjutsu are just expansions on Uchiha abilities. It's the others who took it too far.
>>281143043He was away at Orochimaru's for 3 years, and Itachi clearly wasn't paying too much attention to him.
>>281143424Pretty sure it's what happened.Obito says as much when talking to Sasuke, and the reader, during his talk with him post-Itachi's death
>>281143263weโre gonna have a fucking field day with how later sharingan powers feel like an assortment of pure fanfic bullshit that gradually invalidates the power system, itโs like kishi just wanted to go power level autist
>suddenly sharingan can hypnotize summons and tailed beasts
>>281143510>suddenly sharingan can hypnotize summonsTHE GREAT SNAKE ESCAPE
>>281142666Kishimoto went too far in making him so seemingly perfect. Like, yeah, he ultimately failed and had to be bailed out by Naruto and Hashirama, but everything else about him is just too perfect. He's got an unbeatable Susano'o that oneshots everything it hits and tanks everything that hits it. He's got a genjutsu that can instantly kill even those who are explicitly stated to be immune to genjutsu. He knows Izanami, the "I win and you become a better person" jutsu. The weakest thing about him is Amaterasu. But even leaving out powerscaling it sucks. He planned everything from the start and was apparently not perturbed by Orochimaru potentially bodysnatching him so he must have factored that into his calculations. And he's the reason Edo Tensei more or less ends, both in terms of undoing the jutsu and in freeing himself from it so he can do that. And Hiruzen says he had the wisdom of the Hokage at age 5. Like come the fuck on stop sucking his dick already.
I still get a bit emotional when he dispels the edo tensei and tells Sasuke "You don't ever have to forgive me. I will always love you" though.
>>281143199>>281143264When you think about it makes that part 2 doesn't have that many shitty parents, since most characters need to have a "got orphaned because parents died" dark past, and giving them shitty parents takes away from that.
>>281143294That's an interesting theory, never thought of it like that. In fact I never even realized how closely connected the two are theme wise even though now it seems obvious. It does also seem a bit of a stretch though considering it's Kishi we're talking about lol, but still cool.
>>281143541>bodysnatching him*Sasuke
Itachi seems cool. But I never understood the hype around him personally.
>Lame powerset
He opens their eyes and that's his gimmick. His fight against Sasuke isn't remarkable until he comes up with plot armor and pulls a sword out of his ass.
>Lame personality
He broods.
>Sasuke is a better character
Itachi is a plot device. Sasuke was a fully realized character, his arc after the Itachi fight is one of the best arcs in the series. Full of good fights and Sasuke's characterization takes an interesting turn.
I don't get the hype.
>>281143541To be fair anyone with a Sharingan can use Izanami, itโs not an Itachi-exclusive technique. Youโre right about the rest though
>>281143288Hiashi really wasn't that much of a shitty father. The worst he did was tell Kurenai that Hinata is shit while she was in the other room.
>>281143541I have a special hatred for stuff like Amaterasu for feeling like the platonic ideal of narratively bad powers:
>Hereโs this jutsu that creates inextinguishable flames that are as hot as the sun, and can be targeted just with eyesight>Does it ever work? Lol no, but the powerscalers cream themselves over it
>>281142633Naruto is full of parallels. I think it was intended to be similar.
>>281143593This is like, infinitely worse than anyone but Rasa.
>>281143541>And Hiruzen says he had the wisdom of the Hokage at age 5kek I don't remember that but I'm somehow not surprised
>>281142964Naruto (Part 1) in general basically came at the right time, I feel like if it wasnโt smack dab in the middle of the edgelord era it might not be been as successful
>>281143674I mean, there are worse things you could do in this universe.
>>281143676sorry it was at age 7
even among the Akatsuki I think Itachi is honestly my least favorite, it might just be overexposure but heโs just so dull
Ironically, nobody ever talks about having shitty parents in this manga, plenty of orphan to orphan talk, but never the former.
>le snape twist In retrospect, this twist is as absurd as โItachi was always a big brain spy.โ Two twists in which the story has to bend over itself to make sense of it.
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>>281143746even more than Zetsu?
>>281143746Who's your favourite?
It's Konan, isn't it?
>>281143716I dunno, in the Neji fight when he points out all of Hinata's habits when she's stressed, you'd think that would imply she was abused...but i doubt Kishi thought too much about it or even remembers it at this point.
>>281143746It's because he broods and never shows weakness. For a teenager's mindset, that's the ultimate cool. No one wants their weaknesses and vices, which all of Akatsuki, except for Itachi, show. Anyway, it's what people call a self-insert. Remember the blank state protagonist? Itachi is the blank state antihero. Not even Shadow is like that. His confusing story, and the fact that the story owns it, shows something about the character. In Naruto, the story twists to make Itachi cool, even when he's just an 8-year-old child. Yes, he knew about Danzo's creepy intentions in that scene.
>>281143795thatโs actually kind of a hard one because I think White Zetsu is funny but Black Zetsu might be the absolute pinnacle of hard retcons that completely fuck up the story
>>281143816actually my top 3 is Kisame, Deidara, and Hidan
>>281143386We don't see enough of Uchiha women tbf
It should have been Shizune Uchiha so we would have had the Senju/Uchiha parallel with her being paired with Tsunade
>>281141998Impressive shot.
8 Jonin might have to deflect a kunai if they stand still and this power...the kunai went into this plank of wood a whole 2-3 cm!
>>281142949Itachi can beat anyone just by pointing or looking at them
>>281143897>the only other Uchiha survivor is Tsunade's literal who assistant that never interacted with any of the other UchihasWould've been kind of lame.
>>281143897People would annoy Kishi to no end if Shizune was Uchiha and nothing comes out of it.
Nice magic eyes dipshit, now check this out
>>281143882In my opinion, Kisame is what Itachi should have been. Instead of Kishimoto chickening out with his golden goose (Tobirama), he went all out with the Land of Mist and its corrupt system. The shinobi exam is finally seen for what it is, something inhuman. Kisame's character and actions reflect this, even his death was more meaningful.
It really isn't that unbelievable that the Uchiha massacre was an inside job
>all the Uchiha were in the village that night
>no one heard a single fucking sound
>the only survivor was the brother of the anbu agent who carried it out
>the most troublesome clan in the village history no longer exists
>none of the bodies were taken, so their eyes could be harvested for study or implanted if need be
>>281143977Karin is from the Kushina clan and is just a plot device.
>>281143987Neiji don't make me disappear you too
>>281144016At least that was a red herring for Shipfags, Uchiha Shizune serves no purpose.
>>281143987>no one heard a single fucking soundNow to be fair, if Gaara taught us anything itโs that a tailed beast can go apeshit and nobody hears a single thing
>>281144064...unless you're kurama i guess.
>It really isn't that unbelievable that the Uchiha massacre was an ins- AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH
>>281143987>none of the bodies were taken, so their eyes could be harvested for study or implanted if need beI forgot, how were the bodies explained? Like I know DUMBzo has an eye full of Sharingan but what exactly was the process of getting rid of all the bodies?
>>281144088Who on earth would bully the heiress of the Hyuga clan? Why is the village jinchuriki and Uzumaki so close to her on this specific day? Lord Hiashi, why are you making the si-
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
>>281143720Honestly, when you consider Tsunade and Hiruzen, you could argue this is an insult to Itachi lol.
>>281144016People do talk about how dumb it is that Karin is so forgotten by the plot or how she never even interacts with Naruto when she's the only other survivor of the Uzumakis.
>>281144045Karin's thing works in a meta way. She's an uzumaki, Suigetsu is the goofy nigga, and Jugo has a raging demon. It's almost as if each of them embodies aspects of Naruto's personality. Karin's thing is more Naruto's obsession with Sasuke than Sakura's childish crush on him. When he drew these parallels, did he ever think about Sakura?
>>281144134I SAW IT
A GROUP OF MEN IN MASKS CAME IN AND TOOK THEM ALL UNDERGROUND
THEY WERE DANCING IN THE RUINS OF THE COMPOUND
>>281143969I think it could be ok if just 1 foid uchiha happens to be away from the village when the massacre happens. It may have added some flavor to the Tsunade retrieval arc since Orochimaru might be interested in her body
>>281144191Hizashi and Kimimaro? Would wipe them off the map.
>>281144191>entire country was destroyedI still like to think Sasori did that
>>281144134>I forgot, how were the bodies explained? Like I know DUMBzo has an eye full of Sharingan but what exactly was the process of getting rid of all the bodies?nta but what about the bodies? Kakashi said in the wave arc while explaining Haku / hunter-nin that bodies are valuable because of the secrets they hold, I guess they would have just burned them?
>>281144207Kishimoto wasn't interested in showing Orochimaru actively trying to groom/manipulate more people than Sasuke outside of Flashbacks.
>>281144137too be fair most of Hiruzen's problems as Hokage didn't start until Minato died and he was forced back in
>>281144188I really think Kishi only thought of her as a Sakura parallel that ups her worst traits up to 11.
>>281144207It's really not much different than Anko being so forgotten. Shizune could be just an average Uchiha with average abilities like Sasukes mom, she doesn't need to be the turbohax god type Uchiha
>>281144230Yeah like, did they just destroy the bodies? Bury them? Store them in some shack for research?
>cue more Neji conspiracies
How did no one realize that most of the Uchiha bodies were missing their eyes?
>>281144260We don't know anything good he did during his original time either.
In fact, did he wage war against Amegakure which ended up creating the Akatsuki?
>>281142941That also explains his personality in Boruto. Dude really wants to be the next Itachi because his big brother was the COOLEST thing ever.
>>281144219That was an old theory. The timeline doesn't fit.
>>281144260No wonder he treated Naruto like shit when Minato forced him out of retirement and left him with a bunch of shit to deal with
>>281144286>the only Uchiha that's present in the story who doesn't have broken godlike powers is the foid oneYeah this would've pissed the fans off lmao
>>281144286Anko was reportedly untalented and discarded, it makes sense why nobody is interested in her from a plot perspective, but no matter how shit an uchiha is they will always be the center of attention due to their eyes.
>>281143415Shall I post the forbidden png?
>>281144266In retrospect, healing is parallel to Sakura. But the healing factor isn't just an Uzumaki thing, it's one of the defining scenes of Naruto. So it works more for Naruto than for Sakura. Anyway, I like that healing gets a creepy twist, since she has to give her body to Sasuke to consume. It emphasizes the creepy dynamic and her unhealthy obsession with him.
>>281144350>The one weak uchiha also happens to be a womanKishimoto's misogyny allegations would be boosted in tenfold.
>>281144341>wouldnโt it be hilarious if she did nothing and got fat? *raughs*
>>281144287It would probably have been a real pain to burn all the bodies when most of the village's fire jutsu users just got Itachi'd
>Who's gonna clean this shit up now the slave- I mean, Uchiha are all gone?
>>281144297>In fact, did he wage war against Amegakure which ended up creating the Akatsuki?we don't know, we just know that Leaf ninja were in Ame fucking shit up based on Nagato's backstory
>>281144414It's specifically stated they were at war
>>281144191They bound a god of death to a fucking mask somehow.
>>281144352>Anko was reportedly untalented and discardedOnly to Orochimaru, but even so she was still able to keep her curse mark. That should've accounted for something.
>>281144399manโฆ
and didnโt Kishi say she was his favorite female character for some reason
>>281144341Holy shit, those are huge
>>281144438Kishimoto lost all interest in the curse mark by part 2, in fact, he was already showing lack of interest in it in this very arc.
>>281144421Were they? I just assumed that Ame got caught in the crossfire of the Big Village wars, and Hanzo fought to stop shit like that from happening again
>>281144445Kishi just decides those by throwing a dart at pictures of them, he also said Tenten and Hinata were his favorites.
>>281144341Raido? 0-2 against the Sound 4.
>>281144489Nagato straight up says so when he talks to Naruto.
Reminder Tsunade is 2-0 against Naruto
>>281143897Shizune should beat me up
>>281144468I dunno, even in this arc the wonder drugs and the curse mark seem like a big deal, it just feels like immediately afterwards he preferred Sasuke as being a cool swordsman character that doesnโt use the mark
>>281144554Narutosisters... We got too cocky...
>>281144589Sasuke doesn't even use the mark much in this arc, he basically falls back to 3 tomoes and when that doesn't work he goes CM2 for 5 seconds and Immediately clashes with Naruto because his body won't handle if he stays in that form for too long.
Truly the curse marks are just all over the place thus far
>Anko has one
>And then Sasuke gets one with the exact same pattern
>Oh wait, these 4 teenagers have weaker ones somehow, so Anko has the best one!
>Aw shit, Kimimaro had a different one with the same power, I wonder how this will turn out
>Actually letโs just introduce Jugo and throw all that shit out LOL
>>281144665Honestly don't know why Kishi felt the need to say Sasuke's and Kimimaro's were strong, since they sure as hell don't feel nor look like it.
>>281143383>SpoilerI know that, that's why I was mocking Obito's explanation, when he was the main responsible.
>>281144696I mean I can sort of buy Kimimaroโs? But even then itโs more like his Kekkei Genkai is abnormally powerful (get this guy a glass of milk and he can take over the world) and the curse mark just gives him much more chakra to work off of, hell even seconds away from death he made that gigantic bone forest and was about to turn Gaara (ran out of chakra much faster than the literal cancer patient) to mincemeat
>>281144350Fine give her some healing genjutsu, would have made more sense than Tsunade placing her palm on Sasuke/Kakashi forehead and undoing the mindrape jutsu
>>281143386You forgot Hima.
>>281144652>>281144589He makes decent use of curse mark during the Hebi arc iirc, especially the Itachi fight
It sure is weird how Kabuto was Orochimaru's first or second best man and he had to be teamed up with these 2, shitters during the chunin exams who couldn't even beat genin Sasuke or Kankuro.
I really really blame the games and promotional material for making me think 1 tail cloak and CM2 were basically the SS1 and 100% Frieza of Naruto, these forms hardly appear or even fight at all.
>>281143510>tailed beastsThat's so bad, it ends them completely as real powerhouses and threats, making them just tools for other characters.
>>281144768I feel like Naruto is much more known for the titty monsters like Tsunade and Hinata that I can barely think of any leg action besides that pic and the one of Temari when sheโs talking to Shikamaru post-SRA
>>281144788But even then, he doesn't use it for long.
>>281144790Manga written from a Naruto centric perspectives. You'll get genins whether it makes sense or not, they need to be in the same activities as our MC.
>>281144768What a shameless whore
How strong is Shizune? She can't take Kabuto but I feel she's high jonin, at least Asuma level...
>>281144815sweet fucking jesus
>>281144790What if two sound 4 memebers entered the chunin exams instead of these shitters?
>>281144341>that legspreaduooh
>>281144886sakon and ukon would tank naruto's fart
>>281143795Love Zetsu, probably in my top 5 akatsuki.
>>281144790>Student of Orochimaru>All his โgeninโ were Orochimaru spies>ZERO elaboration
An anon once mentioned previously that the problem with transformations is that they inherently make the base form completely irrelevant from a narrative and Fighting perspective and i feel like Kishimoto didn't want Sasuke to always be in CM2 whenever he fights someone strong, that's why the "10x boost" gets memory hole and Sasuke straight up loses the damn thing eventually.
>>281144932I'd argue she's lower.
>>281144886I still think with compartmentalization and some alterations it would be interesting to see a rewrite where Misumi and Yoroi were replaced with Sakon and Ukon, and Team Dosu were replaced with Jirobo/Kidomaru/Tayuya
>>281144886That would be something interesting to see
>>281144962Kurenai and Asuma would job to the needles
Thank you very much kind snake tongued stranger
>>281144933For all the stuff I criticize Kishimoto for, he handled this pretty well. Sasuke just uses it at given times where he's clashing brute force or needs the snake utility.
What was blud thinking with this one? He thinks he's on the team T_T
>>281145008At that point i don't think Kishi thought of Oro's stretchy body as something he always had.
>>281144990The sound four would've looked even worse if they were to lose to the sand siblings and the Konoha kids twice.
>>281145033probably used him for his spy network until they got Sasori
>>281145031>or needs the snake utility.But he doesn't need it to use snake powers.
>Sasuke just uses it at given times where he's clashing brute forceNot everytime though.
>>281144764Nta, but without using the cursed mark he didn't do things more impressive than creating swords as hard as steel.
>>281145065Any time it mattered honestly.
>>281145033What a trustworthy looking individual. I would happily turrn my back to him while we walked up some stairs together, just the two of us.
>>281142024>Sasukeโฆ weโre leaving.
>>281145043I think the idea is that they'd lose on purpose.
>>281144990>>281145043Tayuya would get memed for being a jobber if you merged them together kek
>Bodyjacked by Ino>Loses to Shikamaru>Much later, gets the runback on Shikamaru, but then gets WEASELโd
>>281142053Itachiโs such a genius heโs even learned how to talk through his hands.
>Kurenai and Asuka are the only ones from their generation to have kids
I guess being in a war zone at 13 messed them up. That and the fox attack
>>281144990>replace Zaku and Dosu with Jirobo and Kidomaru>Jirobo and Kido become 1-0 against Lee
>>281142135>>281142239>>281142265Defund the police force! AUAB! (ALL UCHIHA ARE BAD)
>>281145192>The radiation from the Fox attack sterilized Kakashi's generation
>>281145206>Kidomaru gets eaten by Gaara
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>>281144831I really like when Kabuto grabs her cute shapely feminine ankles
>>281145008Orochimaru? SAVED Naruto from Ankoโs grooming attempt
>>281144926In a world where Kishi didn't Immediately shift focus to the Akatsuki after this arc, i'd like to know more about this guy's relationship with Oro, Anko and that one Hyuuga boy that is DEFINITELY not alive anymore.
>>281145228Danzo what are you doing here?
Why didn't Oro give them any marks? Not even to Dosu.
>>281145285Too low rank, they even thought Oto was a genuine village.
>>281145262Kishimoto really added fuel to the doujin fire with moments like this
>>281144790People just get unlucky vs Kankuro, I guess no one uses puppets outside of sand village. Shino stood a chance because he saw the puppets prior
>>281145262I WISH THAT WAS ME
>>281145262>SAVED Naruto from Ankoโs grooming attemptIs it becuase he was like Obito?
>>281145285>The cool male leader>The comic relief male>The womanThat's like every trio team in this series.
>>2811452625nan's comic of her molesting naruto and sasuke at the same time is going to be wild
>>281142088So strong, a mere tap leaves a mark.
>>281145262>Hinata barely has any reaction to thisMissed opportunity to be more exaggerated desu
>>281145129Tayuya gets taijutsu mogged by Ino
>>281144877Tenchi Bridge Sakura tier
>>281145310>Never given Curse Marks>Thought Sound was a real village>Didn't know about half of Orochimaru's plan and other operatives under him like KabutoWas Oro just pranking these guys for giggles?
The sound 4 in the chunin exams would be better if they didn't replace the other sound nin but rather pretended to participate in order to "recruit" more people for Orochimaru.
You could just have it so Karin joined Orochimaru right after the forrest of death when any of then approached her after getting saved by Sasuke.
>>281144191>the family known and feared for their sealingor
>some random blonde guy
>>281145417Weird part is Kabuto even told Oro that he didnโt know about these guys either, which really implies that heโs just keeping his various subgroups in the dark just because itโs funnier that way
>>281144877Lol, didn't the anime have her almost defeat Kabuto the first time they fought?
>>281142088That tap would have vaporized orochimaru btw
>>281145454Makes me wonder if Orochimaru actually had a subset of minions who thought Sound was real and didn't have them interact with his other (main) minions.
>>281145427>You could just have it so Karin joined Orochimaru right after the forrest of death when any of then approached her after getting saved by Sasuke.I always forget that this is even a plot detail, I have no idea what to even make of this because itโs so random
>>281145262>>281145348>you now realize Anko was probably referring to Obito when she said kids like Naruto are the first to die Damn
>>281144933Sasuke absolutely needed a counter to deal with fox chakra during this current fight and the CM2 was just enough to let him not get steamrolled. Naruto's base form was always basically irrelevant except for when he fought Kiba or when he breaks Zabuzas water prison
>>281145446Minato was taught by Kushina
>Naruto/Anko
>Naruto/Tsunade
>Toshiro/Rangiku
Curse you Shonen Jump for giving me a /ss/ fetish
>>281145539Kushina only knew their shit from scrolls.
>No Tayuya spam
Today's a good day
>>281145262>>281145348>>281145506>Unintentional ObiAnko KINOIt's still going strong after all these years, bros.
>>281145386I doubt Ino could punch Naruto like this.
>>281145506Oh boy, how WRONG she was.
>>281142666>muh le deep cover self sacrificeGenuine question, why is he popular?
>>281142416>Oden flashback shared with Roger Pirates getting to Laugh Tale >Loki flashback turned Harald flashback shared with formation of Rocks Pirates
We were ROBBED of of Anko being Hinata's sensei and parallelfagging over her crush.
>>281145595Strong, mysterious, handsome, cool.
>>281145129inner tayuya would simply kick Ino out of her body
>>281145595He wrecked Sasuke
>>281145285While Iโve always assumed it was just by virtue of him having to be the exposition guy, meaning Kishimoto probably didnโt think of the broader implications, I always found it really interesting that Dosu at least seems to know whatโs actually going on in regards to the curse mark, while his meathead teammates donโt, which implies that heโs somehow seen this before
>>281145674More proof she's actually a haruno member.
>>281145580>black hair instead of purpleIs this one of those things where a mangaka just randomly uses different colors?
>>281145693Maybe Dosu was specifically recruited by the sound 4 and ended up seeing it?
>>281143386I barely know anything about Hanabi.
>>281145719Anko always had black hair in the manga, the anime just randomly changes stuff.
>>281144773I could never forget Hima
>>281145738Because there is barely anything about her.
I forgot about this flashback padding
>Hinata's hair is purple/indigo in the manga but Black in the anime
>Anko's hair is Black in the manga but purple in the anime
Huh?
>>281145738She's cute and that's pretty much it. All of her characterization came from the movie, a two part filler used to endear her to us for the movie, and the Boruto anime.
>>281143816>>281143882I actually quite liked White and Black Zetsu when they were stuck together. I hate that the war arc shat on both of them at the same time.
>Im going to go mourn for Tobi>Are you really that bored?
>>281145780No 13 years old was going to look like that in this franchise.
>>281145849That's why it's still not too late to change the future (but Ikemoto won't because he's a talentless hack)
>>281145569We're focusing on Anko today
>>281145654it was too smart for kishimoto to understand
>>281145719I don't know, early Anime adaptations tend change
>>281145758I think the purple is a better fit imo.
>>281145914>>281145816>>281145654okay, this has to be shillfic anon
>>281145811Get settled in for the next week
>>281145785>>281145818Oh, so nothing of value.
>>281145816Counterparts from the very start.
>>281145926No, it's actually a meme from he 2020 storytime.
>>281145926ANKO AND HINATA DON'T INTERACT IN THAT FANFIC YOU STUPID FAGGOT
>>2811458115 more days to go.
>>281145950say what?
>>281145951except they do?
it's literally one of the major plots and why hinata slept with naruto in the first place
>>281145926anon there are at least 2 people in here who ship AnkObito I am one of them
>>281142322Fun fact, in the Naruto filler, Fugaku has one of the most powerful MS in the whole series. We don't know what it does
>>281145693>Dosu at least seems to know whatโs actually going on in regards to the curse mark, while his meathead teammates donโt, which implies that heโs somehow seen this beforeAfter Zaku is defeated by Shino I think Dosu muses about how he didnโt know him all that well while still thinking about avenging him, so I think that leads more credence to the idea that Orochimaru just scrapped the team together randomly (and like another anon said a lot of his subgroups seem to not know what the others are doing)
>>281145926>EVERYONE IS [insert retarded namefag here]
>>281145458Kind of yes. She should at least be dangerous
>>281146000sorry but it's way too similar to what happens
>>281145987>it's literally one of the major plots and why hinata slept with naruto in the first placeSorry, i speed read to that part, but i don't think it was due to any parallels like we're Implying.
whats so fucking special about Team 7??
team 8 (shino kiba hinata) are oretty good, loyal and hardworking friends if you ask me. why is Team 7 THE close, very good friends team instead???
team 10 has shikamaru and choji, both excellent friends, plus ino. much better than the arrogant loser, the tsundere and the emo. literally dysfunctional
WHY are Team 7 SOOOO good then!?!
>>281145578Sakura can and Ino was better.
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>>281145849Hinata kinda did.
I wonโt read shillfic I wonโt read shillfic I WILL NOT READ SHILLFIC NOOOOOOOO
>>281145654>Was absent throughout the war>Hears Obito was actually alive>Oh, but was evil>But don't worry, Naruto said he saw the error of his way and helped save the world at the end>But he also died, for real this time>Oh, and your pedo snake teacher is back. We're cool with him now.This is why she got fat in the last chapter.
>>281145994>Fugaku has one of the most powerful MS in the whole series. We don't know what it doesIsn't Madara's stronger?
>>281146035That hinata does NOT look like that Himawari picture.
>>281145994No way. Is that... WICKED EYES Fugaku?!
>>281146035>heals Hinata via groping>knocks out Kiba and Akamaru with one tapliterally what did Kabuto mean by this
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>>281146035Also just trying to find an isolated shot of one of the panels led me to seeing this. Poor thing really was made for suffering.
>>281146041Tbf, she looked more happy in the last chapter than she ever looked beforehand.
>>281145994Really dumb filler
>yes the dad that got killed offscreen without any mention ever was actually a Kage tier guy, it's just that nobody knew him or talked about him lmao
>>281146047I said one of, not the most.
Also, fun fact
I forget which eye it is, but the one MS that we don't ever see being used can apparently rewind time
>>281144790>all of those fuckers need glassesAre glasses not considered a sort of liability in the shinobi field?
>>281146084it turns me on but also angers me that she wasn't rewarded at least in part 2
>>281145994Where are all these fuckers getting MS from?
>>281146119Tragedy, apparently
>>281146084>>281146109Hinata was made for ryona and imouto humiliation
>>281146119the villages go to war every 20 years or so
>>281146101>rewind timeI HATE SHARINGAN
>>281146133>ryona yes
>imouto humiliationfuck off
>>281146078Man, I'd actually watch the filler if there was just good fanservice every episode or two
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>>281146158there was for a time
>>281143386Aside from Sasuke's sexy mom do we even see any female Uchihas before Bort happens?
>>281144933Sasukeโs relationship with transformations is even weirder then ever now because post Kaguya he and Naruto are shown as being equals to each other even at their strongest. But Sasuke doesnโt get a flashy new chakra mode form like Naruto does, he only got the rinnegan. It makes it so that heโs always like 100 times stronger than Naruto when heโs not using Kurama except for the times when thatโs just forgotten.
>>281146101>I forget which eye it is, but the one MS that we don't ever see being used can apparently rewind time According to what?
>>281146177I think there we some female Uchihas in the anime when Itachi was talking about Izanami.
>>281146192One of the UNS animations
>>281146209So non-canon. That's a relief at least.
>>281146192A Storm game had an animated fight and it had him rewind time.
>>281146144Hinata was literally written for dom play with her little sister. There isn't anyone better for that, only Neji comes close.
>>281146026Sakura is the glue that holds team SHITven together
>>281146179Too many of the characters are still single by Boruto
I know Boruto sucks but that struck me as very lazy in particular
>>281146177In the manga or anime?
>>281146224Fuck off, you worthless fucking reprobate. Flowerwhore is only meant for dogs and pigs.
>>281146234Kishimoto didn't want to make a whole gen for Asuma's daughter since Naruto's millennial gen are supposed to be the ones with their kids being the stars.
>>281143541I think that the random unbeatable magical equipment of his Susanoo, having never mentioned before, somehow being Orochimaru's greatest desire all along for absolutely no reason, AS IT IS KILLING HIM, really cemented how nonsensical Kishimoto gets. Kishi struggles to keep his exposition contained to things that he can actually handle, and often talks up characters purely at the expense of others in ways that don't pan out, but it was REALLY bad with Itachi
>>281146235Reminder that this character isn't even Itachi's gf in the story she originated from.
>>281146235>Itachi picked Kiba's filthy ass sister over thisThis is why he died of Ninja AIDS.
>>281146261That's in part due to Naruto being heavily drawn from Japanese mythology.
>>281146291KEKchiha hands typed this post.
>>281146281When Obito said "lover" he meant Shisui.
>>281146177I think the Izanagi flashback had one
>>281146187Post Kaguya they're equal when Sasuke has 8 and a halftailed beasts.
>>281146192Nta but I believe it was a videogame.
>>281146179she's like Kakashi, they'll never get over their Oneitis
>>281146324Kakashi never had a oneitis.
>>281146187Yes you're not supposed to think about transformation logic too hard. Madara was also able to just fucking tank 8 tailed beasts stomping him.
>>281146172studio pedorot
>>281146224Fake ryonafag, that "bout" wasn't even shown.
>>281146340Kakashi's oneitis was Obito as well.
>>281146291>Picking a dogfag instead of catfagWell deserved.
I still maintain that 3-tomoe Sharingan would've been fine just as it is
>precognition
>memorizing and duplicating techniques and fighting styles
>moderate x-ray vision
>>281146365Wow, way to lowball Gai, Kakashi.
>>281146395>moderate x-ray visionNO
>>281146409Wrong choice of words cause I'm having a tard moment, wasn't sure how to refer to seeing the chakra network stuffin a way that wasn't quite at the Byakugan's level
>>281145780I really like her fox form, and she's always really cute.
>>281146404That's considered too young even in the third world.
>>281146395Sharingan only gets busted when MS comes into play, specifically after kamui is introduced. It gets busted for any user when EMS is an option.
>>281146409>>281146425Itachi had his sharingan see through rocks while fighting Kabutomaru.
>>281146395But anon, how would Sasuke be able to catch up to Naruto's kaiju fox powers without eye hax?
>>281146367>brat imouto pokes you until your body can't take it anymoreIt was always meant to be. Neji feels lame compared to that.
>>281146395Just being able to copy other jutsu is cool as fuck. And it never is used past chunin exams.
Kakashi of 1000 jutsu's? Uses maybe 7
Hiruzen? FUCKING FLYING TILES
>>281146430Not at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHcel_0OZI8
>>281146458Honestly the Susano is alright, it might have needed some stamina limitations but I dont mind it
>>281146101Is it ever explained why each MS has a different ability?
>>281146463>FUCKING FLYING TILESKage-level technique, scrub.
If Sharingan will have an evolved version on MS, then it is natural for Byakugan to have one as well.
>>281146459>Something that's actually detailed gore is less ryona than two filler scenes where Hinata either puts up a good fight or nearly defeats Hanabi if she wasn't a wuss.You're trying too hard.
>>281142530Thanks as always OP
>>281146078>>281146285Inobros... Tentenbros... we're too irrelevant for good shots...
>>281146487Hagoromo was a gambling addict
>>281146481>FranceAlso, that's a specific state thingy.
>>281146463Those tiles? Would've turned the Konoha 11 girls into paste
>>281146492Tenseigan, or if you want to go to schizotheory territory, then Isshiki's Kokugan.
>>281146499It's lamer because Neji is older and a man, so this is expected from the start
>>281146548That has nothing to do with Ryona.
>>281146533I still don't know what it does
>>281146492>360-degree vision somehow evolves into 720-degrees>Now SCHIZOji can truly see EVERYTHING
>>281146606The Tenseigan gives you a Great Value Chakra Cloak and Truth Seeking Balls. You become strong enough to split the moon in half.
>>281146179Kishi should just confirm this guy was her hyuuga teammate, but considering what happened to Minato's teammates, i doubt that will ever happen.
>>281146620>360-degree*359-degree
>>281146383>>281146406Do you think Kakashi ever brought up Gai when he talked to his dad when he died?
>>281146620>evolved Byakugan sees into the past and the future
>>281146649I think they have different names. So they're not the same person.
>>281146700Very Otsutsuki-like.
>>281146492Byakugan is already broken in theory if used to it's fullest potential. But sure, why not. In an AOE range the stage two Byakugan can dispel any and all jutsu.
>>281146703Anko's teammate never had a name in canon, just like how "Ami" was just some random name thrown by SP to asign the voice actors to in the credit.
Kishi was willing to change Dekai's skin, i doubt that would be too much for him if he really wanted to.
at the end of the day I think I'd tolerate more of the Mangekyo's silly bullshit if not for outright reality warping powers here and there, it's hard to put it in a way that's more objective and not "because it makes me asshurt" (because it really does make me asshurt) but that sort of element just feels weirdly at odds with the established power system in a way I can't really convey well
>>281146779>Literal who bully and one panel wonder naked girl get random names because they have/were given Lines in the anime>Kabuto's sensei remains namelessNot fair.
>>281146845Did his sensei even speak?
>>281146777Only you know who
>>281147016She looks like she fucks Iwa men
>>281146395A bunch of the Mangekyou Sharingan techniques should've just been jutsu
Amaterasu can be some secret Uchiha clan jutsu
Susanoo should just be a crazy summon Itachi obtained and Sasuke later gets
Tsukuyomi maybe can be an unlocked extension for the Sharingan but not all this other stuff
>>281147173Kek that's kind of cool. Itachi graverobbed Madara of his susanoo, Sasuke later gets it and later Madara takes it back and shows them how it's done.
>>281146842Part of the problem is also that if you swap eyes like Pokemon suddenly the drawbacks of overusing your jutsu are completely solved, what's even the point of giving it a weakness in that case?
>>281147173I don't think Kamui should be a jutsu
>>281147016Hold it... Is that a pussy line? Wtf Kishi
>>281147467How come Sakura never kicks this hard for the rest of part 1?
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>>281146510>Inobros...Good time to ask how the fuck does this outfit even work
>hinata-sama when she says she needs to go 'freshen up' in the bathroom
>>281147577>the bathroom is located in his blindspot
>>281147577*
>neji when hinata-sama says she needs to go 'freshen up' in the bathroom
>>281147577>mfw BVLLruto is fucking Hinata again and Iโm trying to goon to it but theyโre in my blindspot and I canโt twist my head to look because thereโs not enough space in my cuckshed
>>281147484no one touched her bum
>>281147776>looks like I'll have to use... THAT jutsu
>>281147577You, know. At least with Byakugan, Neji will be able to tell if his pregnant wife has been cheating on him
>>281147577Hiashi has placed a barrier on the bathroom
>>281145595He made a controversial decision "for the better" of his village which would cement him as a renegade, saving a cool twist later in the story revealing the evil underbelly or Konoha.
It sounds cool in concept, but the execution was pretty bad with Sasuke being one of the biggest problems.
pure evil itachi would've been kino
>>281148446Agreed. But he can still be tragic in nature. And it still could be Konohaโs fault. Making him jesus was a bit much.
>>281146463This
Even Orochimaru sees the value in it. It can train a ninja into being incredibly versatile and give them an edge in countering jutsus mid-fight, as with Sasuke vs Deidara. Too this is never utilized past LoW
>>281147776It's a good thing Neji died before that joke with Minato because otherwise he wouldn't be able to hold himself from kicking Naruto's ballsack for still being into Sakura after his beloved cousin sacrificed herself for him.
>>281142666Itachi personally is a good character. He has a bad fanbase and he gets shilled by Kishi and other Naruto characters a little too much. That's about it. Regardless of the problems of the Uchiha Massacre and coup and how Itachi acted in his first appearance maybe not matching up, it's clear the truth about Itachi was planned by the time this flashback occurs. Also he just has a good, simple, design and powers. He's cool without it being forced.
>>281142416I have a confession to make, I have no idea what the fuck is going on because I started skimming the current One Piece arc.
>>281146641Sharingan upgrades were nuts, but Byakugan getting just a single upgrade rockets its powers way too much.
>>281142416Seriously. Is Loki even narrating this to Luffy and the others? Is it just an omniscient narrator describing everything now? This flashback follows no internal logic.
Hey OP I already saw these posted like 4 days ago. You're out of date.
>>281148940Fuck off retard
>>281148905we hate SHITin
>>281148979Why are you mad?
A kind anon already posted these chapters so we wouldn't have to wait through 2 weeks of boring flashbacks we already saw.
>>281149094Shut the fuck up and get lost
>>281149118No, unlike you I actually like this manga and want to discuss it among others who also enjoy it. If you're just going to be a jerk you're the one that can leave.
btw today's experiment was a success, I'll explain more later
Don't read Uchiha chapters.
>>281149246These flashbacks donโt give us anything new we wonโt learn later.
>>281149364They don't really give us anything new after the itachi/sasuke "fight"
>>281149246>I HATE UCHIHA BECAUSE OF THEIR GOOD GENES>ability to use explosives is because of kekkei genkaiheh
>>281142239Aksually, it was founded by Tobirama, the bigoted Hokage during the time, and it was just to get the Uchiha clan out of the village because he saw them as psycho criminals and didn't trust them.
>>281142471>You received to noticeJfc, can somebody proofread this translation.
>>281142582Why would Naruto and Hinata be in them?
>>281141846Time for the actual GOAT to take the actual spotlight in this climatic end of the series before the timeskip!
>>281142666Ended up being a little too much on his own (side effect of Kishi's uchihawank), but his popularity is justified.
Sasuke is polarizing because, just like Obito (Tobi) said at the summit, to understand Sasuke's retardation (that dragged everyone else down with him), you need to understand Itachi. Sasuke's whole character in this series is literally shaped by Itachi's decisions.
Itachi would have been better as a girl.
>>281149433You can count on one badly mangled hand the number to great ninja there are without a kkg, tailed beast, or magical space alien chakra
>>281149433I mean it kinda makes it worse, right? Imagine you're inherently special because you've got special genes and then some tomato-eyed asshole shows up and makes your specialness look like dogshit. You'd say fuck that guy too.
>>281144790Because Kabuto originally wasn't his right hand man
>>281149801This but Sasuke.
A celestial dragon broke his ankle while kicking a slave, the slave was then tortured and executed for daring to injure the royal blood. I feel so bad for that poor ankle
>>281149433That's a hidden jutsu actually.
>>281150646It's funny to see Kabuto being disgusted at Oro's pedo vibes.
>>281149146Why aren't you discussing?
I just realized the ninjas in naruto don't dress like the classic ninja, what's up about that? is there anyone who actually does?
>>281151601The Oto nin in Konoha crush did.
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>>281149184>>281148940Aw look anons, Sasukeshart is deluding itself by thinking it has any influence in these threads. How quant.
>>281144088I still think the Hyuuga's backstory is worse than the Uchiha's. Yeah, sure, the casualties of the Uchiha were far greater, but there were many more nuances and an entire chain of events that led to its tragedy. The Hyuuga was the older brother, being a complete asshole and torturing his brother so much that he developed Stockholm syndrome and decided to kill himself to end his suffering.
>>281151361I am. You want me to put a tripcode on so you can track my posts? So I can get good boy points like OP?
>>281152075actually 1st guy was me (I'll still explain later)
>>281152086>The Hyuuga was the older brother, being a complete asshole and torturing his brother so much that he developed Stockholm syndrome and decided to kill himself to end his suffering.This is literally NOT what happened.
>>281152360Is literally what happened.
>>281152865No, Hiashi literally didn't want him killed and Hizashi sacrificed himself due to his love for his brother despite everything.
There's no actual evidence Hiashi abused Hizashi daily beforehand.
>>281142666I dunno, Itachi actually being a good guy didn't seem like a retcon to me, what bothered me more was how nonsensical Sasuke's reaction to the information was. He spent most of his life despising Itachi, living solely to kill him, and as soon as he finds out le truth it makes him suddenly love his brother wholeheartedly again, that's dumb. Also Itachi doing that to begin with is dumb, but I can believe Kishi intended it from the start.
