Thread 281171146

Do people even care how Berserk ends anymore?

No, it's (bad) fanfic now.

No, we just want to read "The End"

>>281171189
>>281171201
>>281171201
The quality is exactly the same. If they didn't announce Miura's death and just kept going you wouldn't have known that anything changed.

For me Berserk ended just before they got on the ship.

>>281171299
I post cropped pics of Berserk when Miura was drawing in these threads and say "look how ugly it looks now" and nobody notices

>>281171146 (OP)
It ended after the Golden Age everything since is just forced

>>281171146 (OP)
People stopped caring about Berserk when they got on the boat.

>>281171299
The skull knight vision brought back the hype for me but chances are we’ll never see his backstory along with Void in full.

>>281171299
>The quality is exactly the same
So garbage? But there's a world of difference between garbage canon and garbage fanfic

>>281171146 (OP)
They shouldn’t. Because Mori sure as hell doesnt and will just make some bs up,

>>281171146 (OP)
>Casca returns to normal
>She talks to Guts
>Casca:I want to have with Griffith again!
>*Guts Suicides
There

>>281171146 (OP)
>At least 10 more years and multiple story arcs for it to end according to the current mangaka and publisher
>Both also confirmed that Miura didn't had a planned outline and only told them multiple various ideas for a possible ending but not much else
Like other anons said, it is just a shitty fanfic now and they're milking it for all it's worth, so nope, this doesn't need 10 more years

I love how Farnese was such a fucking lame character that once she stopped being a sadist she ceased having all personality and now the assistants are just giving her Scherke personality traits to make her seem more important than she ever was.

>>281173197
So you agree with Collective Shout that loli encourages pedophilia in real life instead of providing them with a fictional outlet so they don't harm kids?

>>281171299
thats not even remotely true. Miura could actually draw movement and action. Studio Gaga can barely draw someone not being static. Sure they've imitated his artstyle in their chapters but its severely lacking substance.

>>281171299
>If they didn't announce Miura's death and just kept going you wouldn't have known that anything changed
Please.

>>281173370
Chestnut Puck was specifically a miura thing, one good thing is that Mori draws him in his normal form and doesn’t do this lame shit

>>281172686
No good ending is possible Guts beating a god because he's pissed is lame

>>281174149
Griffith gets redeemed and lends his power to Guts and the two of them beat the Idea of Evil

>>281171146 (OP)
Berserk ended when Miura died.
I use to be of the mind that Mori's continuation was good enough, and I was satisfied to simply get an ending to the series overall, but recent chapters have changed my mind. Mori has absolutely no fucking idea what he's doing.
I just finished re-reading the series today, from chapter 1 all the way up to the most recent chapter. The quality of the writing and art drops off a fucking cliff with lead weights tied around its ankles. It's horrendous. The way he just destroys Skellig and makes all the creatures on it disappear makes no sense, and I know he only did that because he knew they wouldn't all fit on the boat, but what's really crazy is how he killed the mermaids, including Isma. This made no fucking sense. Isma is half human and didn't even live on the fucking island, and neither did the other mermaids.
Puck and Ivalera didn't disappear because they weren't connected to the island, but Isma does? That makes no sense.
And then they get captured by Kushan mere hours after the island sinks. How the fuck is that possible? did they somehow teleport the entire ship into Kushan waters by accident?

Mori isn't just dragging the series through the mud, he's spitting on Miura's grave while doing it. Miura would NOT want to see his series end like this, and I'm pretty sure all his assistants stopped working on the series as well, because the current art style looks NOTHING like the first two chapters after Miura died.
Just look at this abysmal dogshit.

>>281171146 (OP)
The author is dead and so is the manga, he never left a script or anything so its just fanfiction now by the new guy. The only decent thing is Puck no longer being stuck in his mascot chibi form.

>>281174481
Griffith gets redeemed after he attains godhood why because Guts was his true bro all along

>>281171146 (OP)
Yes. If I don't like the ending everything post-Miura will not be canon.

Only Berserk newfags still care. Been reading since 2006 and it ended when Miura died.

>>281171299
The difference is night and day

>>281177591
*2016

>>281171146 (OP)
I just want to know how will they bring the Ideal of Evil into the story desu

>>281177671
I caught up before they got on the boat. Nice try though Zoomer.

>>281171146 (OP)
Yeah they're definitely missing little details and character interactions like loli fanservice, but I'll stick around to see what happens. It's all free entertainment anyway

>>281171306
>Read through the manga in college
>Such a great experience I decided I'd wait x number of years for the story to build up before picking it up again
>That was sixteen years ago

>>281174804
I actually don't mind the art of the continuation chapters

>>281171146 (OP)
No, Miura is dead.

>>281171146 (OP)
What are you talking about? Berserk already ended
It ended with a page of a little boy showing his cock.
Which in a way is a perfect allegory to the whole story if you think about it

>>281172686
>>281172742

>>281171146 (OP)
berserk has ended already

>>281171146 (OP)
>Berserk
Who?

>>281173197
>>281181452

Miura is dead so it doesn't matter.

>>281171146 (OP)
It's been shit for, what, the last 15 years? I honestly regret tracking it from around 1999 only to see it going downhill like that.

>>281182172
It's a popular manga, you should try it out.

>>281181215
Tfw it didn't advance that far, despite 16 years of waiting.

>>281171146 (OP)
I hate this chudcel so much

>>281171376
no shit, people used to do this exact thing before miura died

>>281174804
I can't even tell what's going on anon?

>>281171189
It became bad fanfic-tier the moment Muira indulged his latent pedophilia and added the loli-witch.
We should have seen it coming but hey, at the time it was transgressive content meant to show the darkness of the setting.

>>281173259
nta, same reason we put age limit on explicit content (and violence in specific context).
They are extremists pushing for bad solution, but it does have to be regulated because what is normal in fiction does in fact make weak-minded people believe it's ok IRL.

>>281174804
I hate to break it to you, but Muira probably didn't know what he was doing either.

The manga progression was full of fillers with new shonen-like opponent appearing, most of the secondary characters were completely ignored. Only reappearing to show off Griffith city.
We still had no fucking idea what he was going to do with the five super mega boss-like character he created, nor the idea of evil.

He drew pretty pic, added little girl and boy naked (when he didn't make a new manga just for that).
The only thing good Muira did was finally bringing back Casca, which should have happened a decade ago.

>>281171299
there's no more chestnut puck (this is a good thing)

>>281174804
lmao. it ended with the eclipse my boy. the 97 anime adaptation is all you need. after that it goes terribly bad and the only good thing is the artstyle. Everything else is vapid air and literally "void"

>>281186577
I'm surprised people still haven't learned that Berserk was as strong as it was in the beginning because Muira was in a dark place when he spawned it. One can immediately tell how the atmosphere of Berserk changes the moment Muira became addicted to Idolmaster and was having a better life. Similar changes can be observed in other creative minds. I think the only one /a/ has fully recognized is Miyazaki (whose works became worse the more bitter he grew).

>>281172686
Based

>>281186826
uwoh

>>281173259
>>281186495
Everyone and everything would end up getting censored with that mindset, not just lolis, be more like Miura >>281173197

>>281186803
Agreed. your observation reminds me of the post-rock group GYBE and how their early works when they were those depressed kids were different to the later albums.

>>281186803
>>281186849
oldfags remember that guts fighting causality despite knowing he was going to lose was what made berserk so cool
newfags think guts was going to defeat griffith
cancerfags think guts and griffith are actually gay for each other and will live happily ever after together

>>281186872
Does their rivalry even matter at this point? i'll just go rewatch Naruto vs Sasuke final battle, or re-read Shigurui if i want to experience something conclusive.

>>281186454
>transgressive content meant to show the darkness of the setting
I remember people talking about feeling a bit icky about the Rosine saga (with some even going as far as saying that Miura subtly sexualized the slug count's daughter) and getting told off by people saying exactly that. When Miura then pretty much admitted everything by making Gigantomakhia, they also defended him by inventing all sorts of excuses while it was clear even back then that he was already bored out of his fucking mind with Berserk.

>>281171146 (OP)
People stopped caring with the boat (hell, a bunch of anons DIED before seeing the end of boat part of Fantasia)
Awful chapter release pace, wasting time on characters people don't wanna see (Falconia) and whenever spotlight went back to Guts his time was wasted on dumb shit.
Contrarians who say "Berserk died with Miura" never read the threads of complaints during boat arc and how bored people were (it's also the reason why people kept posting about which arc was good and which arc was shit because NOBODY liked Fantasia arc (be it the plot or Miura's digital art) and it was all about "the only good arc of Berserk was Golden Age" and "fuck you, Conviction and Millenium Falcon are way better")
People don't care about shit like HxH's ending for the same reason - just fucking look at Togashi and his chapter release pace and tell me he's actually able to finish the fucking boat arc AND start and finish the Dark Continent arc AND give HxH a proper ending. You can't say he can because he fucking can't.
Miura would never manage to finish Berserk anyway and we'd still be getting the same shit you see in current chapters but with a ton of chestnut Puck and different paneling.

>>281188140
>Contrarians who say "Berserk died with Miura"
This is not a contrarian take; it's just a fact. Whether or not the boat arc was good according to your opinion has nothing to do with the fact Miura is dead and now different people are writing something completely different that they've chosen to sell as "Berserk."

>>281186454
Drawing kids naked isn't pedophilia. If you see a kid's cock or slit and get aroused, that's means you're a pedophile, not the person who drew it. And I hope to god you don't see female children's nipples as sexual.

>>281188399
His point is that Berserk already became awful when Miura was still alive. The boat arc began in either 2007 or 2008 depending on which part you consider the exact beginning of it, and Miura died in 2021. What people can't seem to accept, and many already predicted in the early 2010s, is that Miura basically did nothing but fuck around for a decade. I didn't believe the naysayers myself and shat on them for years, until Miura finally died and I realized they've always had a point.

>>281171146 (OP)
Imagine caring even one whit about Berserk at all; a cheap rip-off, un-fun Bastard! copycat isn't worth consideration

>>281188689
Whatever Mori's doing shouldn't be called Berserk regardless of its quality.
>I didn't believe the naysayers myself and shat on them for years, until Miura finally died and I realized they've always had a point.
Funny, it was the opposite for me. Miura dying made me appreciate Berserk and realize we aren't owed anything from artists and to not take what they give us for granted.

>>281188399
>now different people
Literaly all of them are the same bar Mori
>are writing something completely different
That was the case with Miura being alive (so Berserk didn't die with Miura, Berserk was killed by Miura himself, but the point of when it happened varies from reader to reader), every arc is something different (which is why people always fling shit at each other about "Guts was better without RPG party" and "no, you don't understand, characters like Serpico and Farnese exist so that Guts can grow up and stop being an edgelord") and either every next following arc was never set in stone (so Miura himself was "writing something completely different" everytime) or it was (and then current Berserk team is just following the existing plan set by Miura, even if the execution isn't the best).
Miura's shit doesn't turn sacred just because it was done by him AND because he's dead now - what current Berserk team tries to do is to finish an unfinished mess left by a retard who wasted too much time until it became too late. Fuck, I DESPISE nip writers for this - act all cocky and arrogant and keep building and building and building upon something while they're in their 30s and then bam, they're in their 50-60s with poor health and there's no ending in sight for their series (be it LNs, manga or videogames). And instead of actually TRYING to wrap up they just say "naaaah lmao, I need more worldbuilding and characters" and eventually die with unfinished work. Or their shit just get axed while they're still in their 30s and they just look stupid.
Trinity Blood and Berserk are rare cases when someone close to original author knows a bunch of unresolved plot and thus tries to give an unfinished work some sort of closure (and not just leave it hanging), even if it's nowhere near perfect.
Again, it doesn't matter whether Miura would still be alive by now or not - you'd just bash on him instead of Mori.

>>281189237
The poster you originally replied to >>281188140 never mentioned Mori's continuation. Neither did I, because this isn't about muh licensed fanfic or whatever.

But you keep trying to steer the conversation to that direction because you still refuse to admit that it was already shit when Miura was still relatively healthy and "had a better life" than when the manga originally started. Berserk didn't die with him, he killed it himself by the early 2010s.

>>281188399
It is still Berserk, whether you like it or not.

>>281171146 (OP)
Yes. I've cared for some 20 years. I was in High School when Guys got on the boat, long graduated college when he got off it, and I have a mortgage and child now he's in a fucking Stupa.

Berserk has been in my life for 2/3s of it and I'm owed a fucking ending.

>>281174804
But the art there is kino

>>281171146 (OP)

Miura is dead anon. We will never get the (true) ending so it´s pointless. And let´s be real, even when he was alive the quality was already in decline.

>>281171146 (OP)
Berserk ended in 2021.

>>281189638
But there's been 2 volumes since then you dumbass

>>281189373
>>281189537
>>281189573
>>281190137
Kys shills, no one is reading this retarded scam fanfic. Fuck off to reddit.

Notice how the only people who defend Mori's McZerk have to shit all over Miura and Berserk itself to do it.

>>281190673
Literally no one it's shitting on Miura's Berserk while praising Mori's one

>>281190583
>no one is reading this retarded scam fanfic.
Berserk has literally never been more popular lmao

Sold more copies last year than it did in the 10 years prior. Stay salty.

Pathetic manga about authors incel rape & torture fantasy. Nothing of value was lost.

>>281191349
How can youbget Berserk this wrong? Berserk is about how Miura was raped as a child, wanting to have someone strong enough to protect people from that fate (Guts), how he himself was tormented by what has happened and wants to born again (Griffith)