Sasuke Recovery Mission
Chapter 221: Out of Reach
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>>281174270>the WORST sensei
>>281174394thats not Kurenai or Jirayia
>>281174394>>281174412Are there any good teachers in Naruto?
>>281174333>that woman behind the dadcreated to show up in 1 panel. gone too soon.
>>281174464>Sasuke sweating while trainingGenius of hard work confirmed. Leesissies in shambles.
How long do you guys think in universe it took Sasuke to exposit his backstory?
>>281174362>ITACHIITACHIITACHI
>>281174307>I hope all you kids die in a forest
>>281174464>>281174489See it really makes Sasuke look more like the untalented fuckup compared to Naruto when he's clearly working so hard just to catch up to big bro
>>281174624Fug really is one of the worst fathers in this series
>>281174594JUST SAY IT. SAY 'THAT'S MY BOY!'
>>281174715>Do you know what tomorrow is, Itachi?
>>281174594>SenjutsuIt has another meaning in this context right? Or did it mean Genjutsu?
>>281174552wtf was this Tobros
>>281174840he taught Hiruzen 'God of Shinobi' Sarutobi well
>>281174824ๆฆ่ก, "tactics". Literally "Art of war"
Chapter 221: Out of Reach
END
Tomorrow: Itachi Accused
>Sakura finally manages to bed Sasuke
>He just cries and begs her to say 'that's my boy'
>He shouts Naruto's name when he climaxes
>Post coitus he quietly whimpers 'nii-san..'
>Wakes up screaming from a nightmare in the middle of the night and instinctively chidoris her
He's so dreamy.
>>281174819>Sasuke is so stealthy that FUG didn't notice
>>281174464Wait, Choji and Shikamaru were shown to not have known each other before they entered the academy and talked to each other in Choji's flashback.
>>281174980>FBI OPEN UP>>281175031>Kishi is forgetting stuff mid-arcGrimmy
>>281174333>Fugaku fell asleep dreaming of how proud he is of his one and only son Itachi
>>281174588In hindsight, making Itachi a super prodigy when Sasuke was already meant to be a "normal" prodigy was really retarded.
>>281175004The good ending
>>281174588And he was going toe to toe with this guy.
So is Fugaku the worst dad that isn't Rasa?
>>281175082sasuke isn't a prodigy
he's a fraud
>>281175031The scene at the academy is obviously not the opening day anymore. The chapter speeds through the entire semester, so Sasuke walking out of class to go train could've just been after Choji's flashback.
>>281174448weird how sasuke is the only uchiha in his generation to enter the achadmy that year. but I guess hinata was the only hyuga of her class too. maybe being a ninja isn't that common.
>>281175203Honestly it just feels like a lot of people in this setting don't have kids for whatever reason
>>281174819So is Mikoto just supposed to be a battered housewife or is she just as complicit in regards to the Uchihaโs overall bullshit.
>>281175203If there were other Uchiha kids around the same age as Sasuke that would mean that Itachi killed them, which Kishimoto probably wants to avoid showing or implying
>>281175203I always assumed that not everyone in the clan had potential to be a ninja.
>>281175315too broken by the loss of her precious kushina
>>281174686That's my b-*BRAAAAP*, b-*BURRRRRRP* ugh,
>>281175381How many moms show up in the manga? We got sasuke, naruto and shikamau's, anyone else?
>>281175371its either be a ninja or police officer
>>281175442Kiba's I think?
>>281175442Does Kurenai count?
>>281174409Christ, the hardcore Itachi wanking is starting early.
>>281175315Do the coup itachi chan
>>281174409This isnโt real. This feels like Itachi put Sasuke in a genjutsu nightmare realm where his memories are being exaggerated. This is supernatural level of mental suffering this kid is experiencing.
Kishi basically drew Sasuke's mother as Sakura with black hair.
>>281175442Kibaโs mom shows up
Sakuraโs mom speaks to Sakura off screen a few times and also exists in filler
Chojiโs mom and Inoโs mom show up during Asumaโs funeral but Iโm not sure if that was filler or not
Gaara, Temari, and Kankuroโs mom shows up in flashbacks
Sasoriโs mom shows up in a flashback
I think thatโs all I can remember. In hindsight itโs a little weird that we never see Hinata or Neji even mention their mothers, given the whole Hyuuga branch family stuff
>>281174594>>281175695>1st in teamsSo he got worse when Land of Waves started?
>>281174980In a light novel the guy on the left worked for Tobi.
>>281175749I mean, yes. Considering the whole Itachi and being paired with Naruto thing.
>>281175203I assume most of these prestigious clans are homeschooled.
>>281175246I'd imagine most who were young enough to have kids fucking died when fighting the Nine Tails, so most adults left over are older and don't want to have kids at that point.
>>281175665Ino's and Choji's moms only appeared in the anime.
>>281174409Uh, Iruka became a teacher late or something?
>>281174464Narutobros...you told me Naruto was the hardworker of the two.
That anon was right about Naruto being nowhere to be seen in these chapters.
>>281175968he did sit-ups in bed!
>>281174479Tsunade, unironically. Imagine being Hokage while making someone like Sakura a competent ninja
>>281175662What does this imply about Sasuke and Sakura's relationship?
I do not care for Uchihas.
>>281174464>Sasuke clearly trains hard, but has a problem not only catching up to his brother, but his peers by what this arc showed.>Kishimoto has stated that both Naruto and Sasuke aren't very smart.Bros, were Nacho and Sauce actually and uironically the same all along?
>>281174409I'm so fucking tired of Itachiwank.
>>281175968Isn't Naruto one of the least hard working ninjas in the manga? I mean he gets most of his power ups in a matter of days while making up any difference in power with fox chakra.
His only exception has been the rasengan.
>>281174531Kishimoto's mind 24/7.
My HARD WORKER Sasuke made a fool of that taijutsu prodigy who opened 5 Gates in less than a year
>>281174519I really like mom's answer here. She's being quite reasonable.
Kishimoto was really being subversive by making his MCs weak and useless.
>>281176186>the GENIUS of the genetic super eye
>>281175388Because OF COURSE the moms of the two MCs must know each other! Also the dad of the MC is the 4th Hokage and the dad of the other MC was totally a Hokage candidate with a super special MS he never showed!!
>>281176217My HERO Hashirama (and all those stupid jobbers around him).
>>281175752>the guy on the left worked for TobiThis is fucking retarded. Elaborate?
>>281174927>it's okay if you hate me>man i have it tough being the bestWhy is he such an autist???
So do all the clans just marry within themselves exclusively like a bunch of inbreds?
>>281176246>Minato and Fugaku didn't really have a relationship>Kushina and Mikoto were friends>Naruto and Sasuke had a rather homoerotic friendship/rivalry>Boruto and Sarada are friends with the latter wanting to fuck the other
>>281176280it's light novel shit, man
only good thing to come from that was hinata beating her sister in a naked hot springs fight and a one-eyed hyuga clowning itachi and shisui at the same time
WHERE ARE THOSE 4 REANIMATED EPISODES
>>281176308seems that way
>>281176376>finally a win against a named character>non canon novel
>>281176404But enough about Sakura.
>>281176280From what I remember, that guy worked as an agent to convince Fugaku to start the coup.
>>281176308yes
>>281176246and one of the main villains was a family friend
>>281176280Obito talked to these three chucklefucks and gave them the idea to rebel against the Hokage
>>281176376No I mean, how would that guy work for Tobi? What's the rationale here?
>>281176111Is Shikawank better you think?
>>281176438exactly
it's light novel shit
>>281176308That explains a lot about the Uchiha
>>281176431>Obito talked to these three chucklefucks and gave them the idea to rebel against the HokageThis is so fucking stupid. So even the Uchiha coup was an inside job by the two or three guys that matter in the entire world. This is an Itachi, Madara, Obito world. Everyone else is just living in it.
>Had Hinata entered the academy sooner there might've been a chance she could've fallen for Sasuke
>>281176457Yes, because Itachi ALSO gets the BIG BRAINS wank and the GENIUS shit
At least Shikamaru fails sometimes (often even) and is relatively weak. Meanwhile Itachi is supposed to be this undefeated GOD
>>281176404The novel was adapted in the Boruto anime, but it skipped that fight because I think it was because both of them would be fighting naked or in towels or something. This is a family-friendly franchise (Naruto turns into a naked woman and Kawaki gives the middle finger to one of the current villains btw).
>>281176496People like to say it was too vulgar but i bet it's because Nana Mizuki is too fucking expansive nowdays.
>>281176496They skipped it on purpose just to fuck her over again
>>281176496kishi showed a hint of areola once
they can show an almost naked spa fight
>>281176431It was only that one guy. His name was Yashiro. I don't think the other guys knew about Tobi.
>>281176536why is she abused so much?
it turns me on
>>281176308Imagine not being part of the Aburame but willingly marrying into them
>>281176569Kishimoto had harapan in mind when designing her
>>281176588ants under my SKIIIIIIN
>>281176308This one spiky guy
>>281176078 doesn't have the standard uchiha Black hair, i guess he's not pure blooded.
>>281176490People would say Lee, but looking at Sasuke now, she probably would've identified with him more than Naruto if she knew what was going on with him behind the scenes.
>>281176630Lee would also have been a good bet.
>>281176626Not all Uchihas have black hair. It just looks like that because the prominent ones are directly related to Sasuke with the exceptions of Obito, Shisui, and Madara.
How old were you when you realized Sauce worked harder for his power than Nardo ever did
>>281176726Right about now desu
>>281176531I remember this being brought up. How prolific is she in the industry?
>>281176308I don't think the inbreeding is that severe (if any), Momoshiki's byakugan is completely white as the name suggest, but every hyuuga has some lavender shading into it.
>>281176726>Still loses in the end and kneels to the Leaf forever moreVery cynical tale in this series
>>281176726Still gets hard carried by Sharingan power creep. But I will admit, Part 1 is mostly his own hard work.
>>281176775Which basically implies dilution.
>Spend most of your life working your ass off desperately trying to surpass your older brother (and then later on kill your older brother)
>The class retard somehow learned how to summon a kaiju toad behind your back
Well fuck, I'd be pissed too
>>281176775Does Kishi actually color the Otsutsuki Byakugan different than the Hyuga Byakugan? That's an interesting detail if true.
>the senjus racemixxed themselves into extinction
wtf
>>281176726We've seen ONE scene of Sasuke training at the academy, I don't know if it's more than the Rasengan, Rasenshuriken and sage mode trainings...
>>281176542When did it happen?
"Hardwork is bullshit. You're being lied to. Wake up!" - Masashi Kishimoto, probably.
>>281174489In his place I would be infinitely disappointed in him, he can certainly be more than a designated jobber.
>>281174624Unlike the rest of the Konoha girls, Hinata would've tanked this crippling disappointment
>>281176884But are we gonna imply Sasuke trained once and never again?
>>281175315She seems worried in that page the obvious answer is simply Kishimoto not thinking a woman could have an opinion worthwile
>>281174980I prefer Choso's interpretation.
Thank you OP.
>>281177016she tanked that
>>281174464All of the Konoha girls jokes made me realize that it's even more egregious that Ino isn't with Shika and Choji here, maybe Kishi realized he didn't actually like the 3-man cell idea
>>281176726Never happened. If he only beat Naruto because of Orochimarus power. He literally sold his bost for a cheat power
>>281175334I think he was absolved by making Tobi kill them in the novel. Obviosuly that makes him even more irredeemable
>>281176217Weird how Hagoromo got the Rinnegan when Kaguya and Hamura had the Byakugan. You would think Kaguya would have the Rinnegan, like Jubi-Madara and Hagoromo would get the Sharingan for an even split.
But then again, Kaguya with Rinnegan would make her look very ugly.
>>281177035All the Konoha girls tanked something except Tenten, Tenten didn't tank *that*
Make no mistake. Naruto worked just as hard as Sasuke. It's just Naruto got better results. Every time Sasuke trains and surpasses Naruto, Naruto just leapfrog's right over him when he trains.
>>281177114>leapfrog'shehe
I love Itachi
Itachi's so perfect
No one is better
>>281175442Kiba's, Gaara's, Haku's
Kaguya
>>281177016Hanabi did that btw
>>281175968He's notoriously a slacker, but so talented he learned the rasengan in a fraction of the time other prodigies did.
>>281177096The Rinnegan mainly came from her forehead Rinnegan which might've been the result of her fusing with the Juubi. Hagoromo mostly inherited the power of the Juubi and that's how the Sharingan was born through his lineage since it's just a diluted Rinnegan. His descendants also have Wood Style, which is an ability of the Juubi, not the Otsutsuki. Hamura was the one who inherited more from Kaguya, although, we don't know if Kaguya was ever capable of using the Tenseigan.
>>281177096My homicidal rabbit wife is beautiful no matter what.
>>281177152Since when did Hanabi get fat and became a man?
>>281176246Yea, generally special people will have special children.
>>281177323Transformation jutsu
I am the #1 Itachi fan
Ama
Sasuke got genetically handed free eyehax that makes him able to copy 90% of the jutsus and fighting styles in his universe and is still a scrub. Pitiful. Perfect opponent for the school spazz Kishimoto really was a genius.
>>281177096>>281177212Reminder that the rinnesharingan (and therefore the sharingan) is a jutsu only the ten tails and Kaguya, who was fused to one, showed having, all other Ootsutsuki had either the base rinnegan or, in Isshiki's case, neither. The only donutsu all Ootsutsuki have is the byakugan.
>>281177359what are you doing here Fugaku?
>>281177356That's not her
>>281177359Holy shit! Kishimoto-sensei has entered the daily?!
>>281176466>>281176466>This is an Itachi, Madara, Obito world. Everyone else is just living in it.there's always a bigger fish
>>281177405>Kaguya manipulating zetsua bit generous.
Sasuke would beg for Itachi to kiss Sakura.
How would the story change if
Itachi wasnโt sick ?
>>281177383The Rinnesharingan seems like a very fickle eye to keep. The moment it's tampered with, it loses the tomoe or its red color. Kaguya was the only one who fully had it with her fusion. Sasuke had one without the red color. The moment the Juubi in Boruto was split, it lost the color and tomoe. It's delicate as fuck.
>>281177474He would solve all problems. Kills Pain, kills Oro, Kabuto. Prevents war. Finds out Zetsu is working for bunny mommy and kills him. Becomes hokage. The best one in history. When more aliens show up he kills them effortlessly. Letโs not forget that he fucks Sakura and makes 15 babies. All of them giga prodigies more so than Sasuke was.
>>281177474Healthy Itachi is so perfect that Hiruzen would step down and make him Hokage
Itachi finished his first A rank mission when he learned how to walk at 9 months old.
>>281176376>a one-eyed hyuga clowning itachi and shisui at the same timeBased.
>>281177474Absolutely nothing.
>>281177474Itachi would've solo'd the entire war.
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>>281177539>>281177552Kishimoto would call this canon.
>>281176376>Itachi actually losing in the novelDamn, the novel might've done a better job writing him than the manga.
>>281177016Sakura would've splattered after hitting that wall btw
>>281177642>Damn, the novel might've done a better job writing him than the manga.it reveals that he didn't kill anyone except his gf and his parents
>>281177682Tenten would be reduced to atoms by the same impact btw.
>>281177642The manga made Itachi "lose" to Kabuto and admit inferiority to Jiraiya... But no onscreen L and they even pretended he was sandbagging against Sasuke beyond just "not using Susano".
>>281177703Lol this is disgustingly stupid
Post more novel shit, this is so funny
>>281177703It had Itachi brutally murder the guy who worked for Tobi and his family.
>>281177143my fucking sides
>>281177744Nta but I remember looking at the wiki and reading about an Aburame guy that fought Itachi, who used Tsukuyomi on all of the bugs inside the guy's body to paralyze him, after which he killed him with Amaterasu.
>>281177703She wasn't even his gf.
>>281177744he didn't murder his gf he just tsukyomi'd her and she lived out her entire life with Itachi before dying of old age
>>281177744Nta, but:
Shisui unlocked his MS because he let a friend die on a mission who he was jealous of and regretted it.
>>281176726Literally this arcs conclusion and sauce's post-time skip power up AREN'T EARNED he just is vaguely more powerful and chidori streams
>>281177824Why did he do that?
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>>281175334>>281177091yeah no, itachi is still a SCUMBAG
>>281177824>used Tsukuyomi on all of the bugs inside the guy's body to paralyze himKek why not use it on the actual guy himself
>>281177841>Tsukuyomi can age peopleAbsolute dogshit
>>281177143This but unironically. Sorry Sasuke. Itโs Itachis world youโre living in
t. Not Fugaku or Kishimoto
>>281177091I thought Itachu killed the kids and elderly while Obito killed all the actual ninjas/police force
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>>281177744Tsunade and Sakura's super strength? Itachi could easily use it before he even entered the academy. He saved his JONIN mom with it.
Itachi was such a perfect ninja his sensei repetedly held him back from entering the chunin exam because he was jealous.
Itachi is so perfect he do his chunin exam solo, established the record for fastest clear time in the Forrest of Death, and his written exam's score was so high only Minato surpassed it.
He also beat his opponent so badly in the first round of the third exam that they had him skip the rest of the tournament.
>>281177725>>281177682What would that wall do to Temari?
You don't get it, they HAD to die.
>>281177968it hurts that this is all in the light novel
there is no exaggeration
Itachi learned all 8 gates just by watching Guy train. He never used them because of his health issues tho
>>281177744During the Kyuubi Attack, Itachi saved his mom and baby Sasuke from a falling boulder by shattering it with a chakra-punch like Sakura and Tsunade at the age of 7.
>>281177968>Tsunade and Sakura's super strength? Itachi could easily use it before he even entered the academy. He saved his JONIN mom with it.no fucking way
>>281177955It aged her mind, basically.
>>281177973It would shatter from her body hitting it.
>>281178023And she died because of it?
>>281177968>Itachi is so perfect he do his chunin exam soloThey said a 3-man team would drag Itachi down or something?
>>281177751Lol of course they'd do that. So cartoonish
>>281177867He was a spy from Danzo.
>>281177846Way to character assassinate the only good Uchiha
>>281177968HAHAHAHSJSSNNSNSNDNBENZ
All this would have been an interesting set up for a disturbed antagonist. Perfect child soldier turned monster. A broken brother warped by the worlds expectations.
Instead we get Ninja jesus
I think it's funny how the novels have these very bullshit fanservice moments like sharinganless Kakashi beating A, Sakura beating a bunch of wannabe jinchuriki but Hinata only gets to beat Hanabi due because of a cheapshot while most of the dialogue goes in great detail about how rusty she is.
MC privileges are a bitch.
Light Novel feats are hilarious to me, they feel like the book version of characters doing insane shit in filler and non-canon movies that are way beyond what they should be doing in canon
>>281178128...and? What was he doing that he had to be taken?
>>281178194>>281178201I'm pretty sure the novels pull this kind of stuff just to make it interesting to read.
A Boruto novel had someone try to JFK Naruto. Yes, I mean some guy tried to assassinate Naruto with a gun.
>>281178241Danzo told him to keep following Itachi after he left Konoha, which I guess Itachi didn't like.
Also the Aburame guy was also the one who poisoned Shisui so that Danzo could steal his eye, so I guess Itachi didn't like that, either.
>>281178324That's more reasonable.
>>281177337>Yea, generally special people will have special children.That's complete bullshit.
>>281178304When you were able to tank hits that would shatter rocks when you were still a kid, is a bullet all that effective against you?
>>281178387Genetic recombination be like that
>>281177703I'm pretty sure he killed the light haired guy that worked for Obito, too.
>>281178389Yeah.
A bullet is more concentrated and also moving beyond the speed of sound
but also what?
we have guns now?
we have guns now!
>>281178389To be fair, somehow kunai and shuriken are still presented as deadly weapons even after power creep
>>281178194>sharinganless Kakashi beating AWhat the hell?
>Sakura beating a bunch of wannabe jinchuriki?????
>>281178389For further detail, it was a specialized gun made from science, I believe. It was supposed to be capable of killing Naruto.
But he didn't succeed, because it was a trap set by Shikamaru and the guy was taken down and arrested.
Where's that Kin edit where she asks Dosu
>What's a gun?
>>281178451You know Sora from that filler arc? It was basically that on a larger scale.
>>281178500What the FUCK is A doing against Kakashi
>>281178516It was a friendly sparring.
>Neji
>Kidomaru
>Lee
>Dosu
>Shino
Are those our top 5 potentialmen of Part 1?
>>281178689Replace Neji and Kidomaru with Sakon/Ukon and PRIME Hiruzen
>>281178727>Sakon/Ukon>Potential Lol.
>>281178825He's supposed to be the STRONGEST Sound 4 member
>>281178689>throws a punch>destroys Kimimaro's coordinationSound would've been too strong so he had to go
>>281176726The thing is, everyone works hard in this manga. Lee worked hard, Neji worked hard, Naruto worked hard, Sasuke worked hard. The only ones who didn't are Gaara at first who was just apathetic to everything and Otsutsuki later. Literally everyone in Naruto is a hardworker, there's even a point made with Hanzo about what happens if you stop working hard.
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>>281174267Coolest brother, coolest guy, coolest clan. I'm getting my Uchiha crest tattoo tomorrow.
>>281174409The Itachi wank is so big that even his father is thinking that this guy is exaggerating
I actually laughed
I HATE UCHIHAAAAAAAAAAAA *explodes*
>>281174409Itachi was the greatest
>>281174519Itachi? Built differently.
Sasuke? A wimp
>>281174635Fuck you he loved his son Itachi more than anything in the world.
>>281178442We've always had guns
>>281179572cute little sakura
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>>281179572Lol, this is what they give you in Shinobi Striker.
Fug would've loved Sasuke if he could've named him Itachi Jr. like he truly wanted
Shouldn't we be on like 229 by now?
Slow thread folks, I can feel some necrobumping tonight though I'll be asleep
>>281179795Why do you say that?
>>281180059https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dteIl2aALms
STRANGER DANGER
>>281178825Objectively speaking yes, Kidomaru already lived and exceeded any expectation anyone had for him to begin with.
>>281180059She needs to be stopped.
>>281180059Narutobros, we're so FUCKING handsome
>>281180135>>281180158Do hags have their own ToT.....
>>281179239Kishi certified
How do you think a conversation would go between war arc Sasuke and edo Fugaku?
>>281180341>hey dad, I killed* Itachi and planned on destroying our country. Also, I wanna be Hokage and take over the world.>my only son is DEAD?!?!
>>281174409So just how many of part 1 Sasuke's hangups are tied to the fact that his internal measuring stick for competence is ninja Jesus?
>>281180059humuna humuna AWOOOOOOGAAAA
>>281180472Sasuge would probably get a "That's my boy" if he found out about the Danzo stuff
>>281180472Sasuke would never say he killed Itachi.
>>281180059My favorite crackship when I was first reading was Tsunade and Sasuke. I liked how they looked together and also that they were the last of their rival clans, even though they never once interact in canon
>>281180886Tayuya loses the band on her arm in this cut.
Why does everyone want to molest Naruto?
>>281181154made for damn brat correction
>>281174594ITACHI WAS THE ZEROTH IN HIS CLASS
>>281180059Tsunade is not a pedophile! She never went to Orochimaru's island!
>>281181169>>281181154This, he was literally designed to be PEAK brat material. And then shippuden massacred my boy...
>>281181078licking tayuya forearm and armpit
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>>281180341>Sasuke tries saying two words to Fug
>>281181659anko couldn't resist
>inb4 shillfic
>Fug and Rasa trying to one-up each other in shittalking their sons
>>281181913You mean Fug and Hiashi then Rasa appears and calls them amateurs.
>>281181913None of them can drive their son to suicide the same as Neil's dad did. These Japanese dads are too girly.
Since Kishimoto already introduced 3 characters with daddy issues i sure hope he never gives 2 New characters this exact same plot line just because he's an actual bad father and projects onto his characters.
>>281182293No, she just had a crush on him ala Sakura and Hinata.
>>281177968What in the awful fanfiction is this?
>He saved his JONIN mom with it.Their mom is Jonin!? And she became a completely demure housewife!?
>>281182391Once a woman gets a husband, they're supposed to drop their careers to be a wife and mom. Only Ino escaped this.
>>281182391Women can't have shit in Naruto except babies
>was watching a super cute and funny tenten filler
n_n
>>281182452>it actually was a fucking ANGSTY episodeBEING TENTEN IS SUFFERING WHY THEY DID THIS D':
>>281182293he had many lovers
>>281182513Imagine Obito just observing Itachi date and fuck loads of people for "intel" going by this Viz translation.
Reminder that the Uchiha rebellion is completely justified
>>281182566all the hokage except Tsunade and Hashirama have spiky hair
>>281182424Ino's done cool stuff in Boruto? I'm stunned.
>>281182641She oversees village security.
>>281176726It's a little unclear to me just how hard Part 2 Sasuke works, because it doesn't really show him training, just implies it's happening off-panel. He just appears and either wins (sometimes decisively, sometimes barely) or loses crushingly (Killer Bee, Five Kages). I would say that his "generally very competent guy who only loses when he gets too confident" thing is consistent, though.
>>281182424>>281182447You'd think the Leaf would take retaining their supersoliders more seriously, and do their utmost to not let them retire at age 20 to raise kids.
>>281182452Tenten was the queen of filler.
>>281182424>>281182641Ino is actually fucking insane with what she can do. It's really impressive but her abilities are supportive so not really glamorous. But she'd be an absolutely nuts character in reality.
>>281182833>do their utmost to not let them retire at age 20Hiruzen only wants to see more dead kids once they 'survive' to their 20's he lets them retire so they can pop out more kids he can watch die
>>281182722That's pretty cool, glad she got a cool thing.
>>281182877Glad Orochimaru ended his reign of terror once and for all.
>>281178072If your brain thinks you died, then you'll die
>>281182855She's got, like, passive mind reading and long range telepathy by the end of Shippuden right? She's fucking terrifying.
>>281182855>>281183142Tenten pads her bra!!!!
>>281174270His students re currently killing each other and he's reading smut in a field.
>>281174448The thing that's actually strange about this is that if Itachi was SUCH the prodigy, doesn't that mean the rest of the Uchiha were basically normal? Why would they have such high expectations for Sasuke unless everyone in his clan was a genius as well? We already know that not ever Uchiha unlocks the Sharingan so it seems odd that they single him out so hard, other than "his brother was exceptional."
>>281174519The speed with which society changed in this world is kind of nutso. They went from super mega death war to peacetime prosperity basically overnight, without any rebuilding time.
>>281174624>1st place in every regard is a "keep this up and you WILL BE amazing."Poor Sasuke never had a chance.
>>281174862>>281174927Itachi really is a great older brother, always looking out for his little brother.
The 72 hours of mind rape might seem excessive to an outsider, but it was necessary for the kid to build character.
SUFFERING builds CHARACTER.
>>281174980Thanks OP!
>>281177474Is it ever explained why Itachi was sick? Was there some technique that weakened him, or did sheer providence give him Ninja Tuberculosis from bad water or something?
>>281183249>or did sheer providence give him Ninja Tuberculosis from bad water or something?I'm going to assume that both he and Kimimaro both had this
You know what? Here are some interesting moments and facts from Itachi's novels.
>During the Chunin exams, Itachi scared 4 genin to death. One of them was a guy who fell asleep and became a super duper taijutsu master, like Rock Lee. But Itachi considered him a coward who falls asleep in order not to see if he is harming someone. Therefore, our good boy made this kid watch his own death for many times. The kid was taken away in hysteria.
>Itachi spoke to the graduates of the shinobi academy as the best graduate. Higher ups did not want to give him this opportunity initially since he was an Uchiha and also only seven years old, but gave up later
>ANBU guy blames Itachi for the death of his sister in Nine Tail incident
>Young boys bullied Itachi for the Nine Tails incident
>Danzo killed an Uchiha in order to have his spies impersonate this guy in clan meetings
>Fugaku fucking CRIED over Izumi cause he was so happy that Itachi found out his dick had other functions
>Itachi almost killed those three guys that went to his house after Shisui's death. He was seriously going to
>Itachi did not bother to learn the name of his Aburame teammate even after half a year of being together
>Danzo has a stinky breath Itachi had to endure. Danzo had been grooming Itachi for a long time, the novel overall portrays him less heroic, more mentally nuts and more of a victim than manga did
>The reason why Konoha killing Uchiha should be kept in secret was because Danzo was afraid other clans might revolt if they found out Leaf's fine way of dealing with problems
>Itachi hated the shinobi system and wanted to get rid of it. Hated Konoha and elders/Hokage. Still claimed himself a Leaf shinobi till death. Wanted to be Hokage but realised early on he had no chances and nepotism.
(Part 1)
>>281183295(Part 2)
>Izumi was half-bred(non-Uchiha father), so the clan didn't really like her. Saw her father's death during the Nine Tails attack and awakened sharingan and was accepted by clan. Was against the coup(yeah, that's why she had to be killed)>Shisui awakened his MS after letting his best friend due out of jealousy during the Great War>Uchiha clan was scattered before Kyuubi attack, no district(they were only in Tobirama times). The entire district they received was filled with cameras ANBU were checking>Since Tobirama they were not allowed to have high positions, IE, ANBU, Hokage. Shisui enrolled in ABBU unofficially, Itachi was the first official one, and even that was thanks to Danzo and Hiruzen who supported him and changed his age. Elders were against that>Obito did not kill Itachi's teammates. He met Obito for the first time on a mission with Shisui.Sad Fugaku's thoughts as a bonus:
>>Fugaku heard distinctly the scream that his sonโs heart had let out. He understood Itachiโs feeling of wanting to avoid conflicts so much it hurt. But he also understood the discontent that his fellow clansmen were feeling in the same way. No, Fugaku himself, in the life he had lived so far as a Konoha shinobi, had had bitter experiences on countless occasions.He had been excluded from the centre of the village just because he was an Uchiha.Even the dreams he had in his youth had been cruelly crushed with the sole pretext that he came from Uchiha clan.>Hokageโฆ>An empty illusion that could never come true again.
I hate Itachi so much it's unreal
>>281183295>Fugaku fucking CRIED over Izumi cause he was so happy that Itachi found out his dick had other functions
>>281183436>That motherfucking Hiashi ain't the only eugenicist in town now
>>281183295>During the Chunin exams, Itachi scared 4 genin to death... Therefore, our good boy made this kid watch his own death for many times.Wait how? He didn't have the MS yet. He just killed 4 people with regular ass genjutsu when he was 6?
>>281183502He didn't kill anyone. One of the big things about that novel is how Itachi's a perfect pacifist who never takes a life. He just mindraped a guy into quitting the ninja business
>>281183323>Since Tobirama they were not allowed to have high positions, IE, ANBU, Hokage. Shisui enrolled in ABBU unofficially, Itachi was the first official one, and even that was thanks to Danzo and Hiruzen who supported him and changed his age. Elders were against thatYet there are people who will still defend the Second Hokage when he set up shit like this. Glad the Gold and Silver brothers murdered this guy.
>>281183323>Uchiha clan was scattered before Kyuubi attack, no district(they were only in Tobirama times). The entire district they received was filled with cameras ANBU were checking>Since Tobirama they were not allowed to have high positions, IE, ANBU, Hokage. Shisui enrolled in ABBU unofficially, Itachi was the first official one, and even that was thanks to Danzo and Hiruzen who supported him and changed his age. Elders were against thatWtf I love Tobirama even more now, truly the best Hokage
>Yet there are people who will still defend the Second Hokage when he set up shit like this. Glad the Gold and Silver brothers murdered this guy.
Itachi was quite frankly the worst thing in Naruto.
>>281183757Why didn't Tobirama just use Flying Raijin to teleport the fuck out of there?
>>281183834Wasn't attributed to him yet, lol.
>>281176833He's also one year or less away from the age when Itachi was good enough to kill the entire clan and you can bet that's living in his head rent free.
you know it was really presumptuous of Sasuke to think the gap between him and Itachi closed even the slightest bit during the Tsunade arc because he would have to be banking on the idea that Itachi just slacked off the whole time
>>281183834Tobirama's death was an Uchiha psyop
Honestly I'm surprised that Kishi isn't the type of autist to make a shitload of family trees and the like, for all the clans and prestigious families there are we really don't know dick about most of the cast's families, hell a lot of the most powerful people in the world (such as most of the Akatsuki) are basically just pure individual anomalies that may as well have just spawned one day
>>281177744Iโm pretty sure also mind rapes some poor kid out of ever wanting to be an ninja again in the Chunin exams.
>>281184174Kishi is more like George Lucas.
>>281178201>book version of characters doing insane shit in filler and non-canon moviesDonโt act like this series doesnโt also have that. Remember how in one of the Part 1 filler arcs Naruto as a kid was dodging actual fucking concentrated sunlight, ya know? LIGHT SPEED!
The guy he was fighting was actually the brother of the fat magnet guy Hinata fights as well.
>>281178428Goku literally lowers his power level out of fights to make it easier to live everyday life, heโs not a good example.
>>281183969Not just slack off but actively regress (by an insane margin). Did Sasuke think a bit of speed and a mediocre stabbing attack would make him a match for the smartest, coolest, and bestest brother?
>>281180059Stop it anons, thatโs his grandma.
>>281178142You call it 'character assassination', I call it consistency.
Uchiggers gonna uchigg after all, no exceptions
>>281183323>Izumi was half-bred(non-Uchiha father), so the clan didn't really like herOh so the Uchiha are massively inbred as a rule. This explains so much.
>>281183295>>Danzo had been grooming Itachi for a long time, the novel overall portrays him less heroic, more mentally nuts and more of a victim than manga didI wish the manga handled it from this kind of perspective instead, it'd have been much more interesting
>>281185729Did you not believe the Uchiha and even the Hyuga were inbred at the start?
>>281183295This is so fucking bad
>>281183578That's novel filler retard
>>281185785I thought them all looking similar was just Kishimoto picking a look and then sticking to it for all Uchiha for simplicity's sake. Not because they actually get mad at you for not fucking one of your cousins.
>>281184844Shisui is the exception
>>281185851I'm pretty sure everyone in the thread clearly knows that, Captain Obvious.
I wonder what'd happened if Sasuke and Itachi roles were swapped, would Sasuke chose to fight with the clan for the coup or maybe he'd just said fuck everything and killed Danzo instead?
>>281174409Konoha girls wouldn't be able to handle the pressure
>>281185729That or maybe the issue was that the non-Uchiha was the FATHER while they're in the Patriarchal system
>>281186045Sasuke is a product of his circumstances so it's basically impossible to say what a hypothetical version with no clan massacre trauma and no older brother issues would react like.
>>281183295>Young boys bullied Itachi for the Nine Tails incidentDid they prick each other with rusty nails afterwards, with how much of a death wish they had? Did Itachi mindrape them too?
>>Danzo killed an Uchiha in order to have his spies impersonate this guy in clan meetingsRisky ploy with a clan that can insta-check membership ("turn on your eyes" "fuck")
>>281186565>Risky ploy with a clan that can insta-check membership ("turn on your eyes" "fuck")Danzo is the only character who can really rival Itachi for consistently dodgy decision making.
>>281186828Itachi vs Danzo would have been legendary.
>>281186828Novel needs to make Danzo more of an inverted Jesus who takes the sins of everyone to redeem them
>>281175749>got worse>able to coordinate a plan on the fly with Naruto to free Kakashi from Zabuza
>>281174362frat bro ninja
>>281186289Uchiha women were BUILT for clanless cock.
>>281174464Imagine how good shota sasuke smells after training.
Itachi losing his mind from the pressures put upon him by his dad and the clan is way more interesting than him being forced to do it.
Also, it explains the eyebags under his eyes.
>>281189846>firstborn losing their mind from the pressures put upon them by their parents and big familiesAuthentic Asian experience right there
>>281174409The Itachiwank never dies...
>>281174624There's Asian parents' expectations,.and then there's this shit.
>>281190174>>281174409I mean all of that but really is Itachi that strong? Keep in mind we're discussing Itachi without MS. He's an Uchiha who uses Katon and Kunais. He hasn't shown any of the mountain destroying stuff other characters have shown.
Haku should've been a girl
Orochimaru should've been a girl
Sakon/Ukon should've been a girl
Kimimaro should've been a girl
Itachi should've been a girl
Deidara should've been a girl
Sasori should've been a girl
Hidan should've been a girl
Kaguya should've been a man
>>281189861Double Sharingan Obito hokage Obito should be at the top also
>>281190233Are there characters that should have been boys instead?
>>281189861I get the "go home Minato" because you can never kill him if he just goes home but what is Information Jiraiya
>>281189730D-art...D-art's Sakura...
>>281190484Pain says Jiraiya could've beaten him he knew his secret from the start
>>281190683Well, Kick Head Guy might still be in the same tier...
I will use Edo Tensei to revive the rest of the Uchiha clan, marry Sasuke and we will kill Itachi together in our wedding attires
>>281190713>>281189861>Kick Head GuyWould this have worked on Madara?
Sasuke Retrieval brings up so many damn feels for me. When Sasuke says What are you when he's going fox mode and Naruto responds A Friend I still get chills all these years later. When Sasuke puts the headband on. When the headband falls off. When Kakashi arrives. When Naruto wakes up ahh goddamn this arc this fight such good shit.
>>281189861>Tier SSS+: Konoha without Danzo
>>281191554AAAAAAAAAAH DANZO DID EVERYTHING WRONG EVERYONE IS A BIG CHUNGUS HE CAUSED EVERYTHING BAD IN THIS WORLD
>>281191608Yes we know, Kishi
>>281191608The Uchiha is a clan of mentally ill scum. Danzo was justified.
Danzo and Hanzo? My favorite comedy duo.
>>281191554Remove KEKgaku and GENINLEVELsuma.
>>281191554Was Danzo really a factor in Orochimaru going full terrorist?
>>281182566>Hashirama started the village >Tobirama was his brother>Hiruzen was his student>Minato was Jiraya's student (who was taught by Hiruzen)>Tsunade was also Hiruzen's student >Kakashi was taught by Minato>Nardo is the son of Minato, also taught by Jiraya and KakashiIs there any hope for normies?
>>281193145Dango gave him the resources, so he probably encouraged him
UCHIHAS DID NOTHING WRONG
except Itachi
>>281193163Kiba couldn't even become jonin before retiring.
I think the series lost its soul with Jiraiya's death
>>281193349There was no soul in SHITraiya
>>281193381Surely, you jest
>>281193395It got sucked out
>>281193163>the only Hokages that arenโt blood relatives are Hiruzen and Kakashi
>>281191554Konoha is just a glorified PMC anyway.
>>281191554Asuma thinks heโs on the team ToT
>>281193163Why didnโt Kiba try, i dunno, just be fucking strong? Learn jutsu outside of your dog piss arts?
>>281194543Jutsu are fucking worthless. Only raw stats matter.
>Folks, let me tell you โ Orochimaru, heโs incredible. Just incredible. People donโt like to admit it, but heโs one of the smartest shinobi weโve ever had. Brilliant mind. Tremendous talent with forbidden jutsu โ and I know forbidden jutsu, believe me. I basically invented them.
>They say heโs a villain โ fake news. Totally misunderstood. Heโs pushing the boundaries of ninjutsu like nobody else. Immortality, body transfer, reanimation โ he brought me back, folks! You think thatโs easy? Nobody else could do it. Not Jiraiya, not Tsunade. Only Orochimaru.
>If I were still Hokage? Iโd hire him. Get him a lab โ right next to the Hokage office. Because a mind like that? You donโt waste it. Heโs a winner.
>We need more Orochimarus in this village. Thatโs how we make Konoha great again!
>>281194543>Why didnโt Kiba try, i dunno, just be fucking strong?What's hilarious is that by sheer accident he feels much stronger than Naruto and Sasuke this arc, then he somehow just falls way behind
>>281194565Why didn't he train Harder while consuming enhancement drugs and change his DNA for further powerups?
Is he stupid?
>>281194669THAT'S MY HOKAGE
Naruto is a genocide apologist
>>281195556How did he die?
I donโt know why but at some point many years earlier for some reason I thought that Kakuzu killed him.
>>281195692He got KWAB'd by the Gold and Silver brothers.
>>281184174>hell a lot of the most powerful people in the world (such as most of the Akatsuki) are basically just pure individual anomalies that may as well have just spawned one dayIt's funny, only 1/3 of the Akatsuki come from reputable clans, but those clans are all (functionally) from Konoha and of course two of them are Uchiha, meanwhile more than half of these guys don't even have last names
>>281195797Nagato didn't even know he was an uzumaki.
>>281194669Oh boy. We're bringing cringe memes back
>>281194669>>281195995Tobirana is on the Orochimaru list
>>281195797MY FUCKING HEROES
>>281196145Amegakure citizen...
>>281195797my pretty konyan and her pets
>>281196526Why is she such a degenerate? What's her sobstory?
>>281196526The AIIIIIIIEEEEE girl
>>281196625According to filler her mother died from chakra drainage while working in a hospital, after which Karin got repeatedly "raped" until Orochimaru took her in.
>>281196818The konoha girls would have died from this
>>281196864That's not something to be proud about.
>>281196864>ugly bastard vs. blank glassestruly the match of the century
>>281195692I wish Kishi did a Tobirama one shot.
>>281197279There's nothing left to learn about him, if he won the poll Kishi would either make the story about Hashirama or Madara instead.
>>281197083What was he doing during the Uchiha Massacre?
>>281197567The chuunin exams.
>>281194565FTG turns Minato from an elite jonin into one of the top kage
>>281197726Not as busted as Kamui.
>>281198040Good example. Obito goes from one of the most worthless ninja in the series to fighting Minato on even ground thanks to one jutsu. The hashirama cells helped too.
>>281196379where's nyagoto?
>>281192528>>281194489Circles are Otsusuki-level techniques. It's not Asuma's fault
>>281197726A million kid Narutos with FTG would still lose to Kimimaro with 1 bone sword.
>>281198503In the cuckshed.
>>281194669That's a lot of em dashes...
>>281198866This is why the Uzumaki were wiped out.
>>281198904chat gpt is one of those autistic writers
Naruto but good
>Ends on the pain arc (after which we get Narutoโs and Sauceโs final confro)
>No Obito/Madara
>Itachi is evil
>Konoha cast gets cut in half as to focus only on the most important.
>Lee never recovers.
>Neji survives
Off the top of my head. Youโre free to add your changes to make Naruto the beat it could be.
>>281199132>Lee never recoversWhat the fuck did he do to you
>>281199132Just keeping the scope smaller and more reasonable in general would've been way better. These are fucking ninjas, yet the last 300 chapters is just gigantic nuclear explosions in a 100k+ army war against other zombie ninja, and then a series of final fantasy 4 tier asspulls of the "Bigger Evil" actually being behind every evil person confronted. At some point the series just becomes the fucking Madara meme.
>>281199207He peaked at Gaara. No need to frag him through the mud in Shippuden.
72 hours mind rape was necessary for Itachi to maintain kayfabe
>>281199132>Konoha cast gets cut in half as to focus only on the most important.First start: the Konoha girls
>>281199132>Sound 4 live and join the Akatsuki
>>281199348Too weak for that
>>281199378Post timeskip sound 4 would be stronger than bottom tier Akatsuki
>>281199132Why would Naruto and Sasuke even have a confrontation if Itachi was actually evil? Sasuke has no reason to be hostile against the village in that scenario, please think for even a second before offering โimprovementsโ
>>281199397Yeah, White Zetsu.
>>281199266GODma is in the tier above that
>>281199132Asuma and Kurenai get killed by Itachi and Kisame. Great focus is put on Kurenai ryona.
>>281199411He can be evil and be a victim of the leaf system anon
>>281199132Hinata should've turned evil
>>281199011Poor Kushina having to deal with Minato fucking her best friend
>>281199545Who said she had to be on Konoha's side?
>>281199585>ImplyingIf anything, she's suffering because Minato is TOO loyal.
Bitchnata vs multi-shadow clone jutsu Naruto
>>281199132Naruto should learn Sage mode between the timeskip when he trained with Jiraiya the longest.
>>281199659Jiraiya shouldn't have killed himself just to get a better look at a few faces that he just saw 3 seconds ago.
>>281199472Thereโs a big difference between that and explicitly being ordered to wipe out his entire family, in that scenario I just canโt see Sasuke ever doing what he does in canon
>>281199132>Naruto but good>Ends (gets axed) after the Chunin ExamsYou're welcome.
>>281196818>>281196864This was a dream. We don't know what parts were even real since it had inconsistencies and diverged.
>>281199658Imagine Naruto getting wrecked by Konoha girls
>>281199132Lee only makes a come back in part 2, Naruto is the one getting saved by Gaara.
Neji dies against Kidomaru, which makes Hinata lock in by part 2.
Anko takes Yamato's role.
Naruto is able to control at least 1 tail at the start of part 2.
Inoshikacho gets help from Team 8 instead of Kakashi and Naruto.
Konan fights the Konoha girls, she loses here instead.
Sasuke becomes good in the war, no final fight drama.
Kaguya is left for Boruto instead.
>>281199658she would get on her knees and beg for them to fick her
>>281199132The Akatsuki leader is revealed to be the Yondaime.
>>281201465>YondaimeWhatโs the lore here?
>>281201500they have the same haircut
>>281201632The leader genuinely had longer spiky hair just like Minato before he was revealed to be Pain -- who had shorter spiky hair.
>>281201632I mean is there a reason for Minato to be the leader of the akatsuki? Whats the fanfic explanation?
>>281199132Add another mission arc like the Land of Waves one for part 1 so that Naruto and Sasuke's relationship feels more genuine rather than it being so forced and dumb. Also have it take place in the Stone Village since that is the least explored place out of the 5 main nations.
>>281202183Good opportunity to meet Han and Roshi.
