Tengen was the second most powerful hashira in the original lineup, the other's all had buffs and training that allowed them to do greater things than he could after he retired

ok

>>281187859 (OP)
was

>>281188028
he was the most powerful hashira of the original 9 about 10 years after muzan was defeated

>>281187859 (OP)
Yeah, his fight against upper moon 5 in the final arc was something else. Best encounter in the series, bar none.

Rengoku is the most powerful because he fought Akaza without a mark.

>>281188292
You'll NEVER guess how that fight ended

>>281188310
Rengoku won

>>281188314
Rengoku won but he also died, Akaza was being stupid, relishing in the fight, Gyutaro would have been rengoku within 2 minutes because of the poison

>>281188326
Rengoku won the battle of tasty

>>281187859 (OP)
Nah.
He was very very strong in versatility compared to the others , but he was still ranked below Himejima,Sanemi, Muichiro and Rengoku (also Obanai when he goes all in).
He was probably the best pillar to deal with Gyutarou, but mostly because any other pillar beside Himejima would’ve jobbed hard with the poison

My rank before the marking is:
1)GODJIMA
2)SALAMI
3) (OBANAI WHEN NOT SLACKING)
Muichirou
4)RENGOKU
5)UZUI
6) REGULAR OBANAI
7)TAPIOKA
8) MITSURI
>powergap
9)SHINOBU

>>281188968
Obanai had 4 months to train and did well against muzan late into the fight

and dude, muichiro was just outright weak for a Hashira, he was 14

>>281189153
Obanai ‘s situation is due to his weak body .
When he can go all out he can outrank most of them,but 90% of the time he cannot do that. This is the reason why he didn’t restrained himself against Muzan , since he knew by that point it was all or nothing (and he was not going to survive anyway).
Muichiro was a glass cannon prodigy, he style in execution is the water equivalent of the Thunder breathing. Which means he can speedblitz an opponent to win.
For this reason i ranked him slightly above Rengoku since the latter was more balanced into a perfect mix of STR, DEX and COS.
Muichiro instead is a full max STR and DEX, but his resistance is null , making it that he is tecnically stronger than uzui and Regoku, but would die easily compared to them (in fact i don’t see him surviving against Akaza or tanking his blows like Rengoku if their places where swamped during Mugen Train arc)
This is kinda the thing i like about the pillars tho.
While there is a ranking , each of them is a specialist in specific roles. This means that their personal competences give them good chances to fare better in different matchups , like Tomioka’s defensive/parry style being perfect to stand to Akaza even if he doesn’t have the same explosive strength of Mui and Rengoku.
Or also Tengen being the best counter for Gyutarou because his poison Res and versatility

>>281187859 (OP)
This series peaked with the second season
The power level also was more consistent because tanjiro couldn't even stand in front of the demon brother for more than 1 second without dying
Then the was soloing the upper 4 by the next season

>>281187859 (OP)
He was one of the stronger ones. I'd say wind and serpent were still better than him, and of course stone. 4th place is still above average.

>>281187859 (OP)
I want to believe, and he's my favorite, but do you really think any of the others would've struggled against Gyutaro like he did?

>>281188968
>He was probably the best pillar to deal with Gyutarou, but mostly because any other pillar beside Himejima would’ve jobbed hard with the poison
Except for Shinobu the rest wouldn't have been poisoned in the first place and Shinobu would be fine because she poisons herself for fun like that whore from Final Fantasy V

Question. Why was Kokushibo so vastly different from every other demon in the manga? I get that he’s supposed to be Demon Kenshin, okay. But why is every other demon portrayed like a lowlife, trash, loser, or, at best, a battle maniac ruffian (Akaza)? Is it because the manga carries an essential bigotry for the samurai aesthetic so even a villain is ennobled by it? Because that’s what it feels like. He’s supposed to be a dark Kenshin — this is not controversial, he even copies Kenshin’s iconic cross-breast sword stance — but why ONLY Kokushibo gets this treatment? Even Muzan himself gets portrayed as a scumbag.

I bet Rengoku was the strongest after Gyomei

>>281190844
Nope, that’s absolutely false. The Hashira are barely characters, and the UMs are not characters at all. You can literally mix and match any Hashira vs UM matchup and have exactly the same result. One Hashira’s asspull will be pulled from any Hashira’s ass as needed. Gyutaro’s poison will be exactly as effective against one Hashira as any other. A UM’s weaknesses will be noticed and exploited by every Hashira, the only thing that will change is the dialogue or the specific flashback events when they come up.

>>281188968
Ugly and gay is stronger than Uzui

>>281190982
It was a front. The real him comes out when he turns into that monstrosity mid battle.

>>281191053
You're insane if you think Gyomei would've struggled against Gyutaro

>>281187859 (OP)
Fiendishly based. Uzui is easily the coolest pillar, it's a shame he got shafted in the final arc, the three retired pillars guarding Nezuko should've gotten a 3v1 fight against a new UM.

>>281192231
He didn't get shafted though, he survived and impregnated his wives.

>>281187859 (OP)
I would almost agree with you but Sanemi is insane. The guy gets a stat buff AFTER taking a lethal wound which Koku confirms isn't down to his mark

>>281192410
That wasn’t a feat, it was lazy and bad writing. Koku is Demon Kenshin, so if he hits you, you’re dead or at least losing a body part. But humans can’t fight when disembowled, so the mangaka went "uhhhh….fuck it, he keeps his guts inside via willpower". Because if his guts spilled out right there Gantz-style the fight would be over and that would be the wrong outcome, but there had to be some sort of dramatic tension in this battle and doing that without the Hashira suffering hits would be too difficult to write. THe mangaka wanted a scene where Sanemi gets mortally wounded but fought on anyway because he’s that badass but failed to figure out a good way to make that happen so he just asspulled some silly bullshit, like how Insouke moves his organs around and is immune to his lungs being frozen because he’s “tough”, etc. Bad writers constantly write themselves into these corners.

>>281192658
Right, and is Infinity Castle still slated to make "only" 20B yen in Japan retard?

>>281192682
I have no idea and I don’t care because there’s a 3D animation of much of it on YouTube which looks like it’s straight-up better, especially the Koku fight: https://youtu.be/Cd2aWru1KtM

>>281187859 (OP)
Yes because Kimetsu follows a small amount of real life physics.
Huge dudes are inherently stronger than smaller dudes.
That's why Himejima is a fucking monster even without his mark and Shinobu is likely weaker than Markless Tanjiro even with her own slayer mark. (Of course exceptions like Matsuri exist but even with her condition Matsuri is just equal to the average physically fit men like Rengoku or Giyu, she is still weaker than Himejima and Tengen)
Of course the grown up guy with 3 wives would be stronger than the Teenagers and young adults.

>>281187859 (OP)
He had a lot of resources which made his fight more interesting than other hashira, that's for sure

>>281192768
>I have no idea
Sure.

>>281192768
Cant really compare when that part of the movie isnt animated yet.

>>281192658
I can forgive Inosuke asspulls because he's a missing link tier retard that I cant confidently call human.

There’s a meme going on with this Tanjirou

>>281193723
There is no mercy to be had behind those eyes

>>281188202
Man I didn't think we would actually see his ninja brother. Who would've thought he would show up as UM5.
Dad Rengoku also had a good show event though it didn't last long.

>>281192768
>he believes this looks good

autism

Its up.
https://youtu.be/BzDHH79NMGo?si=lCGgO5yDGqBYhl-v

>>281187859 (OP)
He couldn't solo number 6 while Mist-dono made quick work of number 5. Uzui was the weakest or second weakest, know your place.

>>281192768
I didn't need to know the existence of this garbage, I am now deaf and blind, thank you.

Did he ever fight again?
I feel like he's probably still capable even with only one eye and one arm.

>>281194553
He could barely beat 6, which to be fair, had bullshit hax powers where both had to be killed at the same time. He probably would've fought if Lower Moons were still a thing.

>>281194419
Mistboy got no-diffed in the first interaction and had to be saved by another child, then he only won and ignored the poison because of his mark. Tengen didn't have a mark and had to safeguard Tanjiro as much as he was assisted by him.

>>281190264
all the amerifat social media trannies that tried to push the DS fell off stuff will regret their words and deeds when they see how much the setups pay off in the movies. Infinite fortress was easily the best part of the series and Kokushibo was where I realized it was a legit great manga and not just fun shonenshit

>>281194834
The UM1 fight was also garbage, you just liked him because he was Kenshin while every other demon was trash from a characterization and/or design perspective. Why couldn’t the mangaka give more demons the same treatment as characters?

>>281194926
You're wrong and most likely also a homosexual