Thread 281190834

We're living in a time as hominins where we have the technology that can generate art by typing into a prompt and putting hominin artists out of business and freeing up costs.

>>281190834 (OP)
People would be incentivized to push out low effort slop like cat/racist videos with it. You think that you're getting Akira? Nah, just wojak memes

What makes human art objectively great is people realizing their limitations and making something creative with it.

>>281190945
>Low effort slop
Ironically what you're referring to was made with higher effort than me generating pic related

>>281190834 (OP)
>>/co/

>>281191133
what's wrong with its hands

>>281191254
I just pretend it's a psychedelic mushroom DMT trip,don't reason with it just accept it as it is.

>>281190834 (OP)
By 2040 it may be a reality, zero doubts about that, or maybe hybrid projects where a couple guys draw scribbles and the machine does the rest. Right now is garbage like anything AI made. Wait for it to be good don't jump at the first batch of slop fucking shit, that's why we can't get useful things.

Yes saaaar ai will make all new ai Snyder movies

>>281192004
>2 more weeks bro

>>281190834 (OP)
I love AI anime.

90% of the complaints about AI here come from one mentally ill spammer. He likes to spam indian memes so you can easily spot him.

>>281195298
No one likes AI

>>281190834 (OP)
Because it lacks soul.

>>281195325
plenty of people do. cope

I had a mindfu for years and years and I was finally able to see her with AI…

>>281195325
I like AI

>>281195298
Lmao, a vast majority of people think AI is shit. It’s just jeets spamming what they think will break them out of their shitty caste.

>>281196511
and the spammer is here

>>281195298
>>281196548
Kill all AI niggers

>>281191254
>>281195259
>>281195298
>>281196548
AI art is terrible though. It’s not some conspiracy by one dude who hates saars. It is a common opinion that AI art is not good. Don’t be so fragile and take constructive criticisms.

>ITS SHIT FOR MONKEY NIGGERS NOOO MY FUARKING DRAWING “SKILL”
>please being taking the constructive criticisms and all sir

>>281196789
>It’s not some conspiracy by one dude who hates saars. It is a common opinion that AI art is not good.
These things aren't mutually exclusive. Some people do dislike AI art and there is also a prolific spammer who whines about it here all the time.

>>281195298
Damn. The schizo got so mad that he replied to you 4 times. lmao

>>281196874
That’s my point though. It’s a common held opinion my many people that AI art is not good.

>>281196859
And the jeet is here

>>281196956
it's a common opinion that its good too which is why so much of it is made and posted. we have anime websites dedicated to ai art now

>>281195298
Although AI can excel as specific tasks, particularly classification and NLP tasks, art is not one it handles well. Not yet at least.

>spammer still seething over AI
Don't you have a Takopi or Solo Leveling thread to shit up?

>>281195298
Even when trying to be completely unbiased I just can't think of any good AI generated thing, at best it makes fun and forgettable memes.
At worst it's used to endlessly spam BBC shit all over 4chan

>>281196993
The only reason it is made is because of ease and access. It has many issues that keep it from being comparable to traditional art forms.

>>281197014
>Homo Gooking out of nowhere
So it is true

>>281197069
>out of nowhere
nah faggot. when you spam with the exact same posting style everywhere you become easily identifiable

This thread is getting nuked wholesale, isn’t it?

>>281196981
Yes, you are here.

>>281197109
I stay away from those shill threads, there is no reason to post in them. I actually have interest in ML though, but it honestly is lackluster and best when it comes to art.

>>281197165
>I actually have interest in ML though
do you? a lot of good ai art already exists

>>281197137
So wait, are jeets pro or anti AI? I am confused now.

>>281197183
I haven’t seen any. Do you mind posting so examples that you consider good art?

>>281197193
Above all else jeets are anti other jeets and never shut the fuck up about jeets.

>>281197223
easy

>>281197234
Hm. How could this be?

>>281197254
What’s wrong with the tits?

>>281197234
stop replying to yourself

>>281197285
nothing

>>281197296
That was another anon replying to me.

>>281197254
>tfw you are dating an ai anime girl and she keeps covering her hands

>>281197330
>phoneposting
you just shat in your own mouth

>>281197384
I’m at work and I can’t use work machines to post. Gotta phone post my man.

>>281197333
my AI animu gf doesn't hide her hands

>>281197333
nope

>>281197541
AI won.

>>281197541
Now post an animation with her doing hand gestures. Also show her feet as well, why are they hidden?

>>281197836
>Now post an animation
AI is mainly good for stills at the moment. I don't have animation to post. Good AI art exists though so my point stands.

I suspect people who are fine with AI as a "creation tool" understand nothing about the creative process and have never made a single thing in their life, not even a lot effort image edit or youtube poop-tier video.

>>281197876
So it's shit at animation? Disappointing.

AI haters are anime haters and anti 2D.

>>281190834 (OP)
>where we have the technology that can generate art by typing into a prompt and putting hominin artists out of business and freeing up costs.
That will make the standards get lower and lower. Look at new programmers, they don't know how to do anything without chat gpt. Their code is garbage compared to the old programmers

>>281197947
You think it wont improve? AI couldn't generate images a few years ago, now it can do it quite well.

>>281198016
>You think it wont improve?
Then call me when it will do something like the webm I've posted. For now it's disappointing.

>>281198069
So you think any art that isn't animated has no value? Sounds retarded to me.

>>281197988
>meanwhile all ai sloppers always say that they hate all anime and their garbage shit is better than the anime that is used as reference
lol

>>281198097
Nope, I am just not interested in this shit until it starts moving properly. I am on an anime board after all.

>>281197947
>posting this
That webm makes me think you care about 2d animation despite the things you're saying being repugnant. If you care about traditional animation then you should be supporting AI. Real 2D anime has been slowly being replaced by 3d garbage for a long time now. AI is the only thing than can realistically and feasibly revive the detailed 2D animation you see in anime. We can't even reliably expect new anime to have 2D action scenes any more, sadly japanese animation isn't like what you posted anymore. Look at the fucking state of CSM.

I thought it was interesting at first especially in how it’s used to generate gooner material. But it got boring after a while of using it and it started to feel like a disposable toy.
It’s not bad. It’s not great either. It’s just not something worthy enough to autistically dedicate my attention to.

>>281198149
So the art in berserk 97 has no value then? Background art and stills have no place in anime? Is the Code Geass OP shit now for using aesthetic still frames? Are you fucking braindead? What the fuck is wrong with you? What is this troglodyte mental illness?

>>281198160
>If you care about traditional animation then you should be supporting AI.
Post ai doing something on par that webm and then I will support it. As for 2d animation itself, I have plenty of 1960s-2015 anime to enjoy so I don't care that much. Also 2d indie anime still gets made.

>>281198097
>Shifting the goal posts
How did I know this was where the conversation would go?

>>281198231
It has value but I want see movement you retarded imbecile and that don't you compare the thing you've posted with fucking berserk. The op is talking about ai anime and an anime needs some movement.

>>281198243
You just sound mentally ill and you clearly hate anime since anime is not animated most of the time. How a subhuman mentality you have. Background art and stills are a part of anime too and not everything should be animated. AI at least has value for those things at the moment.

>>281198272
>How a subhuman mentality you have.
ESL-kun...

>>281198272
I just posted that after reading through the thread. The title is literally ‘what’s the beef with ai anime’. Even the still looking like soulless drivel.

>>281198268
>don't you compare the thing you've posted with fucking berserk.
Why? It's beautiful like Berserk. Berserk has detailed art and AI is great for generating the sorts of detailed art that artists are too lazy to draw.

>The op is talking about ai anime and an anime needs some movement.
Okay, but the AI is still useful for the parts of anime that don't move for now.

Because:
>This fucks up the industry because why pay an artist for any shit when you can make something with a nanofiber budget
>AI learns, but they need to be feed information to produce something. So you still need artists works in other for the AI to have a style or produce shit.
>AI training takes a lot of time, so until then you will have several tiers of slop that needs to be edited.
In the end, you have an engine that needs products from the people that are intended to replace in order to produce something similar of even subpar quality, and needs more works in order to even up the quality a bit, but will still be subpar for a long time.
The artist has to abbandon whatever the fuck they are doing because it doesn't make money, you end up with artistic slop, corpos waste tons of money investing in this because they think this will net them money (they are not, the clients want AI generation because its supposed to be free).
Its garbage.

>>281198312
>deflecting

>>281198341
>goal post shifting

I'm sick of ugly 3dcg. 3dcg isn't anime and it keeps getting forced into anime and AI is the only thing that can displace it. I support AI because I’m so sick of 3dshit.

>>281198318
>It's beautiful like Berserk
lol

>>281190834 (OP)
the discussion is pointless because the primary target audience, the japanese, correctly hate aislop and actively push back against its use in anything to do with anime and manga.
also not anime

>>281195298
>indian memes
such as?

>>281198318
>Berserk has detailed art
Berserk has more than just detailed art. Some of the shots have so much going for them. Fantastic use of contrasting colors and great framing are some of them.
>Okay, but the AI is still useful for the parts of anime that don't move for now.
Except the image you've posted would be something used most likely in motion, a scene with an idol moving her hand. If ai were to actually help anime, it would be used to do the grunt unimportant stuff that should look a little off, like the inbetweens instead of the keyframes.

>AI can only be trained on things that already exist and can't create anything new
>AI is claimed to be the future
How can it be the future if all it does is rehash the same shit? Call me when AI makes something new and truly good.

>>281198335
>>This fucks up the industry because why pay an artist for any shit when you can make something with a nanofiber budget
But they don't pay real artists any more, they just hire a 3dshitter to cut corners on anything that requires actual work like dances, fights or vehicles.

>>281198476
Yaiba had non-cgi vehicles and so does the new Lupin movie

>>281198429
Pic related would be good for a panning shot in an ED. It could save 2d arts time and then they could put more animation where it's needed.

>>281198512
these are the exception not the rule because 3dshit is faster and cheaper. this is why we need AI to take over that role and restore 2d aesthetics.

>>281198512
That's a drop in the ocean though. Most Japanese animation relies on ugly 3d cancer for vehicles now.

>>281195325
Cool thing luddite, meanwhile in a year or two I'll be able to type a vague prompt and have a full length anime movie generated for me, with voice acting and a coherent plot.

Then we can share all our cool anime concept movies with each other, it's literally going to be a golden age for animation.

>>281198555
>>281198548
You didn't mention "most" in the op.

>>281198411
you're a tranny

AI will save anime.

>>281198583
>op.
Meant to say post.

>>281198583
>schizo kun

>>281198583
It's not my fucking OP and this thread is shit.

>>281198580
>Then we can share all our cool anime concept movies with each other,
Why would I do that when I can generate 1000 more? Why would I ever care about your movie?

>>281198584
You're the tranny here mate, delusional takes completely removed from reality lol.

>>281198624
Because sharing our creative interests is cool

>>281198476
But ai slop would make it even worse. Literally no one gets paid anymore and no director would make an anime anymore since people can make themselves. At that point your slop wouldn't even count as anime, unless it's generated by a nip.

>>281198712
Why would I need you to share your interests when I cask the ai to generate them for myself? Also why yours in particular, the ai could generate hundreds of thousands of stuff for millions of people, your slop would be insignificant.

>>281198712
>Because sharing our creative interests is cool
It's only cool when it takes effort or talent. I don't need your shitty stick figure reaction pics when somebody far more talented than you has made stick figure reaction pics that are actually worth something.

>>281198719
Anime is a beautiful 2D style. 3Dshit is not anime and never manages to look like anime, no matter how hard polygon or any other studio tries. I hate this modern shit with 2D girls in 3Dshit video game environments like Ufoturd does. My 2D waifu deserves a 2D world to inhabit. AI will revive anime.

>>281198693
They only seem delusional to you because you're mentally ill.

>>281195381
Some people don't have a internal monolgue. Some people don't have a soul. Some people aren't human. It is simple really.

>>281199042
Anime would literally stop existing if everyone could use ai to make slop. Use your brain.
> My 2D waifu
Who is your waifu anyways?

>>281199145
>anti AI evader is so mad that he's posting gore now
You are a subhuman maggot with no soul. That's why you hate anime and 2D animation.

>>281199205
>Anime would literally stop existing if everyone could use ai
This is an inevitability. At least it's 2D and actually anime styled which 3dcg could never do.

>>281199209
That's crazy. As long as Lockheed and Rheinmetall metal are up 47% YTD, my 401K can pay out nicely. I'm on your side. AI is KINO and profitable.

>>281199209
Got to make money somehow.

>>281199256
>This is an inevitability.
But not in a good way. Ai slop would make everything garbage. There are current indie anime makers that make interesting stuff. That wouldn't exist in an era where slop dominated.

>>281199307
>>281199277
Always about money with these soulless AI kikes.

>>281199761
stop talking to yourself

>>281199138
Sure, but the onus is on you to convince me of that. I'll keep laughing at your retarded AI slop though, and so will everybody else.

>>281199805
>and so will everybody else
cute fantasy

>>281199805
>and so will everybody else
you made me laugh with this one schizo kun

>>281199805
you are a sperg

>>281199864
>>281199863
>>281199852
SameBITCH.

>>281195298
AI is worthless, fuck off
Perhaps you can discuss the potential of AI anime with an AI, since you seem to value their output so much

>>281199892
inb4 he brings up timer as if it matters lmao

>>281199892
shut up schizo

>>281199916
you are worthless you subhuman

AI is actual corporate slop

>>281199963
aren't you going to cry about india some more? lel

>HURRR DURR EVERYONE IS A SINGLE PERSON
why is the ai hater so brain damaged?

>>281199995
Name 1 good thing india has done for this world and explain why indians aren't inferior to any other nationality.

>HURRR DURR EVERYONE IS A SINGLE PERSON
why is the ai slopper so brain damaged?

>>281195298
I am part of the other 10% and the mentally ill spammer is 100% right.

>>281200062
>AI hate spammer thinks anyone other than him cares
I don't care about india you mentally ill retard. Fuck india, it's a third world shithole. You're obsessed with them and start spamming about them whenever /a/ says something positive about AI.

>>281200159
>Fuck india, it's a third world shithole.
Racism is not allowed on /a/, retard :)

>>281200098
Come on anon, the retarded anti AI spammer isn't right. AI is actually good for producing 2d artstyles which is something we need more of since 3D cancer is used to cut corners in everything nowadays. People loved anime because it was 2D and AI can make it great once again.

>>281190834 (OP)
kill yourself

>>281200234
>People loved anime because it was 2D and AI can make it great once again.
Demons slayer was beloved by thousands and that was part cgi. Your opinion doesn't matter.

>>281200203
>AI hating evader is now defending india against racism
Come one now, hypocrite. You were saying "jeet" earlier.

>>281195298
90% of the AI shilling is one fucking retard attention whore who doesn't understand basic social cues.
Nobody wants your shit here.

>>281200234
It's not about mere 2D artstyles. I want nice animation. Stuff I won't see from camera footage.

>>281200270
>using racist lingo
The janny won't like this...

>>281200265
>Demons slayer was beloved by thousands
People who aren't anime fans. Also can you really blame people when 3dshit infests basically every show. At least 90% of the shows this season have 3dshit in them in some shape or form. And it's just becoming more prominent. Hand drawn 2d animation isn't coming back. 3DCG has been displacing hand drawn animation in japan for the last two decades. Hand drawn can't compete with how much quicker and easier it is to make 3dshit so we need AI to avenge anime fans and bring 2D animation back. It's the only way.

>>281197988
AIsloptards are all asshurt artist haters
Hating artists means you hate art, manga and anime.
And that means you don't belong here.

>>281200234
>>281198160
>>281199042
You keep parroting this but you are out of touch. Aot was one of the most popular anime and it was filled with cgi. Literally no one gives a fuck about your opinion.

>>281200310
And that's fine. 2D AI can free up time for that. See>>281198524
there are many positive applications of AI

>>281200319
You motherfucker, that's in quotation marks.

>>281200360
>but you are out of touch
You're on fucking 4chan. Are most people here out of touch with mainstream normalfag opinions? I will defend 2D anime styled art until my last breath and will never accept inferior 3d cancer.

>>281200350
>People who aren't anime fans.
If the the "true" fans are the minority then no one cares about them. Your statement that "people loved" anime is meaningless when even more people love anime now that it is cgikino. Let me repeat myself, you are irrelevant. You are the loud minority than no one cares. Demon slayer brought more people to theatres than 90% of 2d anime movies(and most of the people were japanese themselves). People prefer cgi.

>>281200360
>Aot was one of the most popular anime and it was filled with cgi.
Because it wasn't feasible in 2D but AI could make that possible. People also don't have much choice these days when everything gets 3dshit forced into it. it's a plague

What pointless thread. Why argue in the first place, when no one's opinion will be changed no matter what you say, be it for or against the use of AI in anime?

>>281200408
>Are most people here out of touch with mainstream normalfag opinions?
4chan is normalfag central, most popular threads are shonen generals.
>I will defend 2D anime styled art until my last breath and will never accept inferior 3d cancer.
You are irrelevant lol. No one cares about uour weird incel opinions. Most people prefer cgi.

>>281200417
>cgikino
how low will you stoop?

>>281200446
>You are irrelevant lol. No one cares about uour weird incel opinions. Most people prefer cgi.
Fuck off you anime hating maggot.

>>281200374
It can. But most likely it will just be used as well to make the animation, and it won't look good.

>>281200469
keep coping, everyone is loving cgi while you are seething.
>>281200427
> People also don't have much choice these days when everything gets 3dshit forced into it. it's a plague
yet people like anime more than ever before, I am sorry it doesn't please your sensibilities.

>>281200417
>>281200446
>>281200360
>using snk as an example
Explain why people like Frieren more then? That's almost 100% 2D.

Everyone of you AI fearmongers is fucknig wrong. Nope, we don't anime studios to just ask Chatgpt to genereate anime with one prompt. What we actually want is to make AI do the tedious work like animating inbetween frames and add more detail to backgrounds and characters while maintaining the art direction relatively intact.
For example, imagine adapting berserk. Storyboarders and animators will still stektch scenes and backgrounds and animators will still draw keyframes and action scenes. Al will take care adding more detail to backgrounds and reach the aesthetics of the manga. Al will also take care of drawing some frames that are very tedious to draw and achieve a level of sakuga that rivals the best anime adaptations in the current market. Al will also reduce production costs and times so we could watch anime adaptations that do not take an eternitiy to animate fully.
Al is a tool, not the end of the world. Stop fear monggering and get in with the times. If you hate AI so much, stick with your 13 fps, CGI ridden shit fucking anime adaptations that are ruining the anime industry as we speak now.

>>281200491
>Explain why people like Frieren more then?
Has it made more money than Aot? Also Frieren has cgi stuff as well. Just not major ones, but it's still there.

>>281200487
Thank you. That's an issue with implementation and not a limitation AI technology itself.

>>281200490
you're fucked in the head, you're literally satan you retarded anime hater. why are you even here?

>>281200507
Demon Slayer and Aot saved the anime industry.

>>281200519
Everything is an issue with implementation man. Can a knife make anime? It can when pointed at the throat of talented anime artists I guess.

>>281200518
>Has it made more money than Aot?
>he doesn't know
SnK sales were garbage after season 1.

Frieren was a real 2D anime. It was impressive, high quality and anime styled. It's the best thing this decade.

>>281200537
shut up troll

>>281200536
Because I like anime that every normal human likes? How am I an anime hater if I like anime. You are literally the irrelevant minority

>>281200591
3dpdcg is not anime and it never will be. Are you fucking new??

>>281200591
you sound like you’re pretending to be retarded

>>281200591
you're a shit eater

>>281200635
>3dpdcg is not anime
Why because, you, a nobody says so? Ask a japanese person if Demon Slayer is an anime and he/she will say yes.

>>281200646
>>281200657
>no arguments
*yawn*
Sorry but most anime fans love cgi. Your opinion has as much worth as the toilet paper I use to clean my ass.

>>281200685
you are so fucked in the head that it's unreal

>>281200685
anime fans complain so much abouy 3dshit that it's meme you newfag

>>281200668
A japanese person will say spongebob is anime too. Would you say otherwise? Well you're just a nobody.

this subhuman is actually pretending that people like cgi to troll

>>281200706
I would agree with him
>>281200702
>no true scotsman fallacy
What anime fans ? Do you have any data to back that up? Because most anime fans liked Demon Slayer.
>>281200698
Keep seething.

>>281200743
>trying to deny the reality
I f people hate cgi why do they love demon slayer and aot so much? Post proof and data that people hate cgi.

>>281200750
>I would agree with him
Anime is a 2D style.

>>281200750
>Keep seething.
that's what you're doing by arguing with everyone else in this thread

What anime is being discussed in this thread, janny faggot?

>>281200750
>What anime fans ?
>newfag doesn't know about anime culture
Why do you think the 3DPD meme exists? It only makes sense because anime isn't 3dshit. go back tourist

>>281200787
Post proof that Demon Slayer and Attack on Titan are not anime.
>>281200798
>everyone
Sorry but can you stop being a schizo lol.

>>281200787
>typically aimed at adults as well as children
wtf does that mean

>>281200835
post proof that they are you schizo

>>281190945
You sound like a tranny

>>281200819
I've asked you to post proof and data that anime fans in general hate cgi.
>3dpdp
So a mem is your proof? Lmao. Back it up with real data.

>>281200867
just look at the reception for ex arm and berserk

>>281200851
Easy they are called "anime" on literally every site, japanese or english.

>>281200867
>I've asked you to post proof and data that anime fans in general hate cgi.
You're just exposing yourself as a newfag. This is something well known.

>>281200890
That proves thta they don't like bad cgi. Now look at the reception of Demon slayer and Attack on Titan or even Land of lustruous. They are beloved and have a lot of fans proving that anime fans like cgi unless it looks really bad.

>>281200898
>This is something well known.
Yes you can't provide proof...
If it's so well known why do so many people like cgi anime?

>>281200819
3DPD has nothing to do with CG newfag.

>>281200916
>or even Land of lustruous
shut up bitch. the 2D PV looked better than the cancer orange put out. they ruined ichikawas art

>>281200965
No one cares about you. The majority of people liked it. They also liked Demon Slayer and Attack on Titan.

>>281200952
It's a related thing you newfag. The meme doesn't make sense if an anime can be 3d. The meme was born out of the reality that anime is 2D.

>>281200991
We don't know if the majority liked it 3d you dirty liar. We never got a 2d adaptation of HnK.

>>281200991
>The majority of people liked it.
subhumans

truly a /v/ tier thread

>>281201036
ikr? what kind of subhuman would defend 3dshit? it's the cancer that has ruined modern anime

>>281190834 (OP)
>and freeing up costs
Nothing is free, there's always a cost even if you don't see it. Plenty of people want things that cost little, but nobody wants cheap things.
>and putting hominin artists out of business
You come to /a/ after all the amount of anime you have enjoyed all these years, and you have the gall of saying that. I will enjoy the curl of that monkey paw.

>>281201016
>We don't know if the majority liked it 3d you dirty liar.
We know that the majority of the people liked it as it was. It's true that we don't have a 2d version to compare but it's still a good example for the fact that people love cgi anime. Same as Demon Slayer and Attack on Titan.
>>281201019
That's cute but an incel like you is irrelevant.

>>281201121
you're the incel maggot defending 3dshit

>>281201121
shut up tranny

>>281201121
>incel projecting

>>281201084
>ikr? what kind of subhuman would defend 3dshit?
Most normal humans? Sorry to burst your bubble but your opinion is irrelevant until you can provide proof. I am still waiting :^)

>>281201139
Normal anime fans enjoy 3d. I've already posted proof.
>>281201143
>>281201148
>seething so hard because they have no proof
This is getting funnier and funnier.

>>281201154
>Most normal humans?
No. Only shit eaters with no standard because 3d cancer looks ugly af compared to real 2d anime like Frieren.

>>281201121
>ut it's still a good example for the fact that people love cgi anime
No it's not you fucking maggot.

>>281201178
>crying and still fighting with everyone

the contrarian defending 3d garbage in here is insane

>>281201205
An anime fan must've sexually assaulted the cgi shilling xister, only that could explain this level of hate for anime.

>>281201178
You're not an anime and you don't know anything about this community.

>>281201180
>no true scotsman fan
You still haven't provided any proof. Lol also Frieren used some cgi as well.
>>281201181
Yes it is retard. People loved Land of Lustruous, Attack on Titan and Demon Slayer. You can't change that.
>>281201203
>seething
lol

>>281201236
>Lol also Frieren used some cgi as well.
Virtually nothing. I can forgive things like the dance since everything else was so good.

>>281201236
you're seething

>>281201232
>no true scotsman again
Come up with something new. The majority of anime fans like cgi. Post counter-proof if you disagree.
>>281201205
>contrarian
How is it contrarian when the majority of fans love it. You are a contrarian retard.
>>281201219
Stop coping.

>>281201236
>Yes it is retard. People loved Land of Lustruous
Land of lustrous was controversial at best. It also looks like dogshit compared to it's 2D version and Ichikawa's art.

>>281201270
You're coping and fighting with everyone ITT.

>>281201250
The last battle uses cgi. A lot of cgi models were also used to arrange the characters in different scenarios.
>>281201255
>n-no you.

>>281201270
>come up with something new
no. you can keep crying

>>281201270
you're the contrarian you 3dshit fellating tranny

>>281201295
>still seething

>>281201295
My point was that there is virtually none of that in the show. Don't know what you're arguing with.

>>281201295
shut up faggot

>>281201280
>still no proof
It looks like you are coping bro.
>>281201274
>Land of lustrous was controversial at best.
It seems to have a positive reaction. But if you think so you can ignore it and take the other 2 which till are extremely popular.
> It also looks like dogshit
Your opinion doesn't matter.

>>281201299
>contrarian
post proof for that instead of repeating yourself.
>>281201297
>>281201326
>>281201333
Blah blah blah. Still no proof.
>>281201330
But there is some of i. It's not a non-cgi "pure" anime. It just masks it well.

>>281201342
>But if you think so you can ignore it and take the other 2 which till are extremely popular.
It's not a good argument when everything has 3d forced into it these days so 2d isn't allowed to compete on equal footing. You're being vile and disingenuous.

>>281201391
>blah blah
>still samefagging and arguing with everyone

>>281201342
>It looks like you are coping bro.
The proof is the literal dictionary definition. Also, you provided no explanation of why the 3dpd meme exists because it shouldn't if 3d is just as much considered anime as 2d is which is the lie you're trying to push.

>>281201419
>It's not a good argument when everything has 3d forced into it these days so 2d isn't allowed to compete on equal footing.
Wrong, there still are a few 2d movies and shows and they don't even compare with those, hell the 1st season of aot was in 2013 when there were still quite a number of 3d shows yet aot destroyed them. Yet most people prefer cgi. Sorry.

>>281201434
>The proof is the literal dictionary definition
Provide proof that people don't like cgi.
> you provided no explanation of why the 3dpd meme exists because it shouldn't if 3d is just as much considered anime as 2d is which is the lie you're trying to push.
How many anime fans use that meme? How many of them care about it. I asked you for proof and you provided something useless that doesn't change the fact most anime fans like cgi.

>>281201517
>Provide proof that people don't like cgi.
Why don't you lurk more you colossal newfag.

>>281201477
>Wrong, there still are a few 2d movies and shows
I didn't mean that literally you autistic subhuman. Having only a few is not fair.

>>281201517
>I asked you for proof and you provided something useless that doesn't change the fact most anime fans like cgi.
you're fucked in the head and can't explain how that mean exists if 3dshit is just as much considered anime as 2d is

AI won

>>281201536
In 2013 there were enough and they still lost.
>>281201534
>still doesn't provide proof
/a/ is the minority(also a battle shonen board now lol). Most anime fans like cgi or else aot and ds wouldn't be popular.

>>281201561
>w that mean exists if 3dshit is just as much considered anime as 2d is
Maybe at some point they hated cgi but we are talking about the present and in the present the majority doesn't hate it. Cope and seethe.

>>281201580
>In 2013 there were enough
Not really because you're mentally ill enough to mention tiny amounts of 3DCG in Frieren and most of the shows in 2013 at least had some 3DCG forced in. Also, look at what anime fans choose to generate with AI. Just go to AIbooru or Pixiv and you'll see that it's 90% or more 2D art so anime fans do prefer 2D styles. There is proof for you, you anime hating subhuman.

>>281201580
>Most anime fans like cgi or else aot and ds wouldn't be popular.
They don't, you're being incredibly disingenuous. People tolerate 3dcg but would prefer 2D. People don't like Kimetsu because of garbage like the 3d fish jesus christ anon. They like it in spite of that garbage.

>>281201644
Then go back to 2011 when fate zero was beloved lol.
> Also, look at what anime fans choose to generate with AI. Just go to AIbooru or Pixiv and you'll see that it's 90% or more 2D art so anime fans do prefer 2D styles.
Those fans are small minority compared to the fans of aot and ds. Still no proof. You are too low iq to provide a proper proof.

>>281201674
> They don't, you're being incredibly disingenuous. People tolerate 3dcg but would prefer 2D
Any proof for that?
> People don't like Kimetsu because of garbage like the 3d fish jesus christ anon. They like it in spite of that garbage.
Proof? Also some of the most praised scenes in aot are acheived my moving the camera in a 3d environment. And people like demon slayer because of the crazy cgi particles and movements.

>>281201682
if you're a normalfag who's only seen snk then you're not an anime fan

>>281201600
>Maybe at some point they hated cgi
I will never let go or change even if we get overrun by zoomer and gen alpha newfags like you who never liked real anime or watched it to begin with. I truly love my 2d waifu and she deserves to live in a 2d world with dignity and not some 3dshit.

>>281201682
>>281201644
Also frogot to add but Frieren had way more cgi than a lot of the shows in 2013. because of the way the characters are using some models for movement.

>>281201682
>Those fans are small minority compared to the fans of aot and ds.
see>>281201728

>>281201732
You are irrelevant, the majority love cgi now also who the fuck is your waifu?
>>281201728
>no true scotsman
Sorry but you don’t decied who is or isn’t an anime fan.

>>281201754
The end result is 2d drawn schizo. Who cares? Lots of animation uses 3d as a reference. It's your starting point before stylizing.

>>281201770
see>>281201788

>>281201732
>I truly love my 2d waifu
Who?

>>281201788
>the majority love cgi now
>the masses have contracted a mental disease so you are not allowed to stay steadfast to what is right

>>281201799
Well Ufotable likes using those 3d models as well. Maybe you are right and they shouldn’t be considered cgi.

>>281201827
>claim that most people dislike cgi
>get proven wrong
>try to cope about it
Why are you like this? You are allowed to do whatever the fuck you want but making general claims like that is pure retardation.

>>281201888
>>get proven wrong
this is just your fantasy, kid

>>281201903
That’s a nice cope but you still haven’t countered the fact that most people loved DS and Aot. You have no proof.

>>281201888
>everyone i talk to is the same person
Why are you like this?

>>281201949
Where have I said that? But that was the argument of this reply chain.

>>281201946
random normalfags who have seen those and nothing else are not "anime fans"

>>281201971
>more than one person can't talk in a reply chain
holy newfag

AI is the medicine anime needs.

AI can't stop winning.

>>281201973
>no true scotsman
You can’t decide what an anime fan is. You are irrelevant. Also most of them have seen stuff outside of these 2 shows as well.
>>281201989
So if you have nothing to do with that argument then do you agree that anime fans love cgi?

>>281202028
>So if you have nothing to do with that argument then do you agree that anime fans love cgi?
sorry. i'm not retarded like you

>>281202050
So you disagree? Then you can go back to >>281201888 lol.

>>281202060
IDK about "people" but 3dcg is not popular among anime fans. This is known to anyone who actually speaks to other humans on anime forums.

Every single AI thread in this board has been garbage with no exceptions. Regardless of the cause, this shit shouldn't be allowed here. Absolutely nothing good has come of it.

>>281202096
> popular among anime fans
Proof? Anime fans loved attack on titan and demon slayer.

>>281202129
>spamming
Oh yeah, that's why crappa are shit on constantly and people raged when they put more 3dshit into the show. That's also why the crappa season is lower rated than season 3 part 2 on mal.

>>281202129
>you are not allowed to like anime and need to be a braindead normalfag and have normalfag opinions
yikes

>>281202199
But that’s example of a worse cgi, I am talking anout Ufotable and Studio Wit cgi and their shows were beloved.

>>281202225
Are you retarded or just pretending to be retarded? When you make a general claim you have to provide proof for it or the other person will think you are low iq.

>>281202271
You've demonstrated to everyone ITT that you are incredibly low IQ and a massive newfag.

>>281202325
>still no proof
You can stop with the cope. I’ve destroyed you so hard you started crying. Next time you make a statement think twice you brainless moron.

when will mods nuke the disingenuous "proof" spammer?

>>281202384
>he lost so hard he staryed crying for the mods
Lmao, you can’t get more pathetic than this.
>mooooom I lost the argument please save me!!!!

>>281202403
>>281202370
it's funny how you come up with these fantasies in order to cope

>>281202425
What fantasies? I asked you to proivde proof for your claim. het no proof was provided. You lost hard

>>281195298
Kek, whatever bro. Run with that if you want.

>>281202452
You are being intellectually dishonest and anyone who has been in the anime community for a good amount of time would know that 3dshit is viewed with distaste and that people prefer actual 2d anime. You are tolling and spamming and being retarded on purpose.

>>281202477
You've proven it again will your "proof" signature. Anyone can do a CRTL F - "proof" and see your hours long spam.

>>281202477
how many times will you reply to that post? lmao. it really hurt you didn't it?

>>281202452
>>281202477
still copping and seething

>x popular thing must be liked because of the 3dshit and not in spite of it
very sound argument schizo kun

>>281202493
> You are being intellectually dishonest and anyone who has been in the anime community for a good amount of time would know that 3dshit is viewed with distaste and that people prefer actual 2d anime.
Yet you can’t provide any proof for that lmao. Aot and DS are loved by anime fans.

>>281202575
You said thay people don’t like cgi anime, yet they like it lol. Also read>>281201726

>>281202629
>You said thay people don’t like cgi anime
That's not the argument you're trying to make though, schizo.

>>281202654
That’s the only argument I am trying to make, are you retarded? I am saying that people like cgi. That has been the only thing I’ve been posting until now. Are you illterate or retarded?

>>281202629
>thay
lmao ESL

>>281190834 (OP)
Anyone who thinks AI is the answer is extremely shortsighted. The unchangeable, permanent fact is that AI cannot innovate. Imagine spending the rest of your life unable to experience anything new because it's just AI rehashing the same crap out at you. I do not want to live on an Earth like that.

>>281202744
>no argument
Lol.

>>281202761
At least it will be nice and 2D like Maid Dragon and not a 3D cancer like Overlord. AI will be the end of 3Dshit.

>>281202782
Corporations will not stop at using it to cut corners.

>>281202807
They use 3dcg cancer even though it can't look like anime because it's far cheaper and faster. AI actually can look anime styled but it can also be generated fast so it will displace the 3d trash. At least this means 2D will be making a comeback.

AIgold is amazing.

>>281202866
3DCG is the lesser of the two evils. Once AI starts competing with real artists it will cause a bubble where less people are drawing. The bubble will pop once people get sick and tired of countless AI shit, but by then we would have lost so much new blood.

>>281190834 (OP)
AI has the potential to make anime better than it has ever been. It's great. I look forward to it's implementations in anime and how it can bring back the mecha genre.

>>281203134
>3DCG is the lesser of the two evils.
Fuck n. It's by far the greater evil because it can't even make anime. AI art actually looks anime styled.

>>281203187
Can it also tell good stories? My favorite anime, LoTgh has ok animation but it shines when it comes to character writing and stuff like that ai. The ai slop I’ve read has been pretty boring.

>>281203239
It's good exactly because it looks bad. It creates a need for decent artists. Artists that can make even cheap animation look good are like gods in the anime industry.
You have to look at this long-term.
AI is synonymous with stagnation. Stagnation is worse than death.

>>281197254
the toubuns are gorgeous

>>281190834 (OP)
>What's the beef with AI anime?
Nothing, it's great. It's proved to be incredible for the anime aesthetic and it will make anime look better than ever.

>>281197836
>gets blown the fuck out and immediately shifts goalposts
kek

>>281195298
Nobody wants you, wanschizo. Not even your home board of /g/ wants you.

>>281205453
>schizo is still replying
>still mad
hahahahahaha

>>281197112
It's not. I dunno if you've noticed but mods changed their policy towards AIslop threads recently. Get ready for more of this.

>>281205472
>waaaaaah please censor and remove what my shit taste doesn't like

>>281196993
What a soulless century this is.

>>281205524
fuck soul

i look forward to all the coming AIkino

>>281200804
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>>281205489
>>281205471
Who are you quoting

>>281205791
you schizo

>>281205820
I never said anything in the greentext.
How about you take your meds

>>281190834 (OP)
Kill yourself already.

>>281206177
shut up nigger

AI won

>>281195298
You were right, the schizo went crazy ITT.

>>281190834 (OP)
Most anons see the benefits of AI and how it's incredible at making 2D art. One sperg on this board doesn't like it and he's a serial ban evader so it makes it look like more people have a problem with it than they actually do.

>>281197254
Disgusting slop. Same copy paste shit every fucking time. Same shading, same skin tone, same perspective, same poses and dead eyes conveying absolutely nothing.
I mean people can jack to whatever floats their boat but this garbage is so easy to crap out, in pages like Exhentai you have to navigate through PAGES of slop before finding something good, utterly annoying.

>>281208692
whatever gaylord

>>281208692
cope schizo, you've been malding for hours

>>281208758
Off yourself. You are not welcome here.

>>281208791
you're not welcome here you retarded subhuman

>>281208692
This anon is right, which is why I always gen with specific artist tags. I don't know how people can look at the same art style millions of times and not get tired of it.
My personal favorite is using an artist that has a consistent OC, then creating more situations for that OC. For example, an artist has a yuri couple that appears frequently, so I might gen them as loli's in the same art style to imagine they've been a couple for that long.