Thread 281286779

https://n.news.naver.com/mnews/article/024/0000098830

1. Webtoon Consumption Patterns Lost to Netflix and YouTube
2.Popular web novels that could be adapted into webtoons are also running out
" The content is all the same. "
3.Authors at the mercy of Naver and Kakao
" Large platforms hold new creators and production companies to particularly strict standards. They want content that's likely to be profitable from the planning stage, which leads to a decline in content diversity and experimentation. "
4.The scale of copyright infringement continues to be high, with illegal copying and distribution
5.High Barriers to Overseas Expansion

TRVTHNVKE from a Korean who's disillusioned from the constant shilling and lies

>>281286779 (OP)
>" Large platforms hold new creators and production companies to particularly strict standards. They want content that's likely to be profitable from the planning stage, which leads to a decline in content diversity and experimentation. "
This seems like the worst part. No wonder everything is the same if they don't want anything interesting.

>>281286779 (OP)
And censorship caused Korean webtoon to flop too. And even worse, Solo leveling and Kpop demon hunter being so successful and super popular in Japan than Demon slayer and JJK caused Korean censorship standard to become new standard to Japanese anime via aniplex. Ones not aired in China(80%) censored? It is Korean censorship being spread to Japanese anime by aniplex. That's why Ruri got pantyshot and swimsuit ep censored. Korean influence is bigger than china and west in Japan.

>>281286779 (OP)
No mention of censorship? Spite solo leveling being so popular in Japan than Demon slayer and JJK, and dominated Japanese anime market caused Korean censorship standard to spread in Japanese anime by Aniplex, such as Ruri.

>>281286825
>Even Koreans are sick of shilling
Wew

>>281286779 (OP)
Just a few months ago people were spamming that it was over for manga because of webtoon crap lmao

>>281286987
Blame jeet shills and gook shills LMAO

>>281286825
retard

>>281286987
>people
It's a singular schizo obsessed with "pwning" Japan. He made this thread too. The retard couldn't stop himself from having his usual rant against Japan on the third and fourth replies.

>>281287174
Bikinifag doesn't know how to make threads

>>281287174
>>281287402
I made the thread, I just want to let people outside korea know how webtoons are faring domestically and their failures

I want webtoons to die

>>281287513
>I want webtoons to die
Why are you asking for the impossible?

>>281286834
This is what kills western media and AAA games as well. Investors want a safe profit in a creative medium so they demand it to be done the same as something that was profitable before and we end up with endless remakes and generic stories made to appease investors.

>>281287794
high chance it'll happen. i despise gooks so much for introducing the cancer that is called vertical scrolling format.
fuck gooks

>>281286856
What is this webtoon? and is Korea really to blame? I thought it was china who was doing the censorship, One such case was the boy in the all girl's high school which had feet censored, you're telling me it was the koreans?

Based. Gook as a race/country and any gook-related products should be eliminated

>>281286957
Korean society as a whole is in dire straits right now. There's a reason their birth rates are so abysmal at the moment. The women hate the men, abort male babies just because they're male, Megalia, etc.
The men aren't much better either; their top site was a porn site famous for uploading stealth pics/vids of mothers/sisters/(ex)gfs.
When you reach a certain level of animosity it's hard to pull back from.
On top of that you have large portions of their society controlled by singular companies and the Chaebols.
It's so multifaceted I honestly wouldn't even know where to begin untangling that mess.

>>281287888
>high chance it'll happen.
We both know that is not true

>>281287888
In fairness to them, they just adapted the already present vertical scrolling phenomena to comics. Though I also hate it, it was largely inevitable given the predominance of cellphone browsing.
People already infinite scroll in the west as well, it's how you browse twitter.

>>281287959
>It's so multifaceted I honestly wouldn't even know where to begin untangling that mess.
crises of such scale have always ended with either catastrophic war or complete collapse of nations/civilizations. there will be a unification of the koreas in our lifetime, one way or another.

Not anime or manga
>>>/co/

>>281286825
>splendid department stores while the story inside on the level of neighborhood clothing stores
Actually a good way to sum it up. The korean distribution model undoubtedly works with the way it has flooded the market, but they don't really have big cultural hits.

>>281286856
>>281286932
>solo leveling being so popular in Japan
I live in Japan and I only know Solo Leveling from the schizo who keeps shilling it here. I din’t remember ever seeing any merch for sale, it might have existed but it was not anything flashy. For example a youtube series with only a couple of episodes get to have merch for sale and you don’t even need to look for an anime store to bump on them.

>>281287979
I wouldn't have problems with the format if they didn't forcefully fragment panels in such an obnoxious ways. It's so fucking disgusting with how they try to prolong each chapter with it.
Not to mention the blinding white background from it. Fuck gooks

>>281288140
Anything is more popular than gook shit.
Everything they make is pure garbage, with the rare exception of Blue Archive but most of the shilling is done in the west.
It's kind of sad how both Koreas are shitholes that can't even make good copies and are destined to fall together.

>>281287878
In games it just ends up flopping and crashing because investors demand you make shit similar to what's popular NOW without thinking that it might not be popular in 5 years when the game they demanded is done.

>>281288296
K-pop is popular in Japan, specially those boy bands, I see their faces on bottles, chewing gum, etc. Also Korean food. Solo Leveling on the other hand all I see is the /a/ shitposter shilling it.

>>281286779 (OP)
This is what happens when your target audience is the general consumer blob and not fans. And you are doing targeted marketing without actual growth.

>>281288296
They are back to pre japan liberation shitty government.

>>281287878
it's fucked up and ugly, but i can see some sort of twisted logic to it when it comes to AAA game development or movies because tens of millions are on the line. i can't imagine how utterly worthless and constraining that same logic must be when applied to an industry whose media is meant to be driven by 2 to 3 creative types at the most. "limitations breeds creativity" isn't really working out here

>>281287878
Nah, the main issue in the west is politics.
Noe imagine if blizzard and ea had complete control over the market.

>>281288494
The problem is that it keeps backfiring because the investors demand game creators chase current trends despite the fact that games take multiple years to make and those trends won't be current any more when the game is done.

They've also blown a lot of money on the idea that live service games make a shitload of money, without accounting for the fact that very few people subscribe to more than a couple such games at most, and they're not going to move over to your outdated copycat game once it finally releases.

Why didn't Japan try to market J-pop to the west? I fucking hate korean language and the plastic girl bands playing everywhere now.

>>281288583
they are trying now. with more and more acts are trying to do global tours like Ado ,etc.

>>281288583
One of the reason why I always prefer Japan over Korea is that they didn't initiate (Intentionally or unintentionally) a global expansion for their bad products

>>281286856
Jesus christ do you have to show up in every thread no matter if it concerns you or not?

>>281287894
No it's just the resident /a/ pantyschizo.

>>281286856
Why are webtoons so sexually negative? The 2 extremes are PG13 tower climbing reincarnation MMORPG isekai crap and giant tit pornhwa, nothing in the middle with even mild ecchi. Is it because of the feminists again or something?

>>281288583
P3 reload's new song "he's turning obese" mogs any Kpop. Korean games cannot have vocal songs at all,
as Blue archive has no vocal song at all. And kpop lacks HoloEN equivalent. Kpop cannot generate memes due to volatile marketting while Vocaloid does.
Why cannot Korean games have vocal song when Kpop is so great?
Did Kpop industry forced game industry not to have vocal songs in game?
Blue archive lacks vocal song. While only Japanese games can have vocal song. Western games cannot have vocal song either. For Chinkslops, their terrible accent hinders them from having vocal songs.

>>281286856
I won't lie the censored versions actually look drawn better, some people just degrade in skill level when working with one hand.

wait, by webtoons people mean those korean longstrips, right? my wife reads those, aren't they pretty much all the same shit? they all look like some generic digitally made slop
also don't they just use some asset flip content all the time? i remember seeing a collage on /a/ of some longstrip panels with the same exact castle in the background in like 10 different strips

>>281288661
Yeah. Kpop lacks holoEN equivalent like Fuwamoco, Bae and Kronii.

>>281288755
>I won't lie the censored versions actually look drawn better,
seek immediate medical attention

>their top site was a porn site famous for uploading stealth pics/vids of mothers/sisters

I can't understand that at all. How does that not completely destroy families? Not surprised if those sisters end up not trusting men.

>>281287894
China? Only 15 out of 74 animes this season are aired in bilibili.
And China has no feminists. As Genshin, ZZZ, starrail has hot girls with half naked. And Chinese subway station is allowed to have loli in microbikini on wall, since no feminist complain about it, and no Zoning needed in China. 中国没有女権主義者｡

>>281288801
Funny how chinese apply their censorship rules to only shit from other countries but their own shit haa no censorship, lile hoe skeletons and guns are banned ans get modified from gacha games or mangas/webtoons but their own chinese games and comics have them lol

>>281288779
Upper right's boobs look weird like they aren't properly centered on her body, it's like they are shifted to her right. Skirts being vacuumed sealed to the pussy is silly.

>>281288801
China has feminists you just don't keep up with Chinese news. They aren't really focused on media products like American ones they have their own issues to deal with.

>>281286856
>Kpop demon hunter being so successful and super popular in Japan
the very few fanart i've seen are from western tumblr type artists

>>281288833
lmao fuck off roastie, you don't belong here

>>281288868
Yeah. Is Kpop demon hunter American or Korean? Their protags look like ugly calart karens who acts filthy. One of their protag looks like Aloy who is from Snoy as well.

>>281288923
It's from Sony. Heard it's actually decent with Spider Verse kind of animation, but these stupid faces make me refuse to watch it

>>281288942
it's a korean thing that isn't obsessed with overly static generic beauty, so I can give it some props, even if it's not normally my style.

>>281286779 (OP)
>The scale of copyright infringement continues to be high, with illegal copying and distribution
This is never a real reason. They love this excuse.

>>281288989
*Californian thing. The Interview is better Korean thing than this. I cried on Super Kim's death here.

>>281286779 (OP)
Article fails to mention the absolute creative sterility of the korean people.

>>281289071
>" The content is all the same. "

>>281288923
Kpop Demon Hunter was produced by Sony Pictures and the writer is an American Sony employee.

>>281288942
The animation was done very poorly, it worked in spider verse but it sucks on this one.

>>281288733
Government sees sexy stuff as the reason for why no one makes children in Korea. Instead of the fucked up work culture and social expectations.

>>281289092
About Korean wave, The Interview is better than this. I cried when Super Kim 3 has been fallen by the hand of American spy's tank round...

>>281288762
Castle-nim has made an appearance in many, many manwha according to this wiki
https://otome-isekai.fandom.com/wiki/Castle_Nim

>>281286779 (OP)
Just stick to the good ones.

>>281286779 (OP)
hey this is a board for japanese manga not korean shit. thanks.

>>281286779 (OP)
Bot thread.

>>281289253
lmao so most manhwa are literal asset flips?
is there anything original coming out of worst korea at all?

>>281288942
>Carried by animation (Which isn't even a Korean or that good to begin with)
No wonder no Koreanfags shill this in this board

>>281289688
And this animation is made by Amerimutts. Koreans feeling nationalism with Amerimutt slop seems weird.

I don't hate gookshit, but holy fuck they have killed any creativity they had by steering hard to the meme phone webtoon format.
I miss when Manhwa were still proper comics with page by page format and panelling that shows that they gave a fuck.

Are Witch Hunter and Immortal Regis/Cavalier of the Abyss still ongoing? Or did the Manhwa crash kill off those series too?

>>281289762
>Witch Hunter
Surprisingly yes. Latest chapter just came out a few weeks ago. Creator is of the very few older gook artists that didn't sell out to the webtoon meme. Bless the man.

>Immortal Regis/Cavalier of the Abyss
Technically over, but CotA ended in a cliffhanger that was supposed to lead to a Part 3 that will never ever come because the artist sold out and is stuck in webtoon hell.

>>281288296
The Blue Archive devs really, really want to be Japanese.

>>281289752
Veritas? I remember that was hyped up a long time ago. There's talent. Its just webcomics are shit.

>>281286779 (OP)
It's over....
https://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=244933

>>281286779 (OP)
>The content is all the same.
Kek.
So it seems, so it seems...

>>281286779 (OP)
>>>/co/

>>281290010
>churn out literal sameface samecastle slop
>people get tired of it
>"how could this happen?"
elmao

>>281286779 (OP)
>4.The scale of copyright infringement continues to be high, with illegal copying and distribution
Because the service any of the existing platforms offer is fucking dogshit.

>>281286825
Oh so that's why there are long strip conversions for shit like berserk of gluttony and unemployed wiseman.

>>281286825
Ahhh yes the guy with a Hitler profile pic

>>281288583
A few reasons:

1) Korean idols sign up to what most people would consider modern slavery, agencies absolutely break their bodies, minds and souls while making idols follow schedules that are stricter than the fucking army

2) The third generation of kpop which took hold of the 2010s absolutely mogged whatever Japan was making at the time, and yes it was both due to shilling but also extremely organic

3) While Japan (as consumers) couldn't let go of groups like Perfume, Korea was making a gazillion girl groups every year and never once has stopped. On top of that Korean agencies dump 99% of girl groups into the trash as soon as most of its members turn 28, so there is always an unlimited supply of young slaves and Japan just can't keep up

4) Japan doesn't need the West, their country is massive and they can cater to their own country while making bank so no point

5) Korean agencies are so optimised and ahead of Japan that they always knew the REAL meta would eventually be integrating other countries into their ggs. So now you have most groups not being 100% Korean. They tend to have any combination of the big three (China/Japan/Korea) + SEA. JYP (one of the top 3 agencies in Korea) went above and beyond with this idea btw in NiziU which is essentially a kpop group in theory with ZERO Korean members and full Japanese.

This meta settled when Producer 48 (Izone) and Twice took all of Asia by the balls into the early 2020s (BlackPink is too small in member size and they are exception to the rule of course because they are way bigger than Twice and of course there were groups who did country mixing this as far as the early to mid 2000s) but it was pretty much end game by the time 2010s ended and now it's almost mandatory (Newjeans/TripleS/LSF/Hearts2Hearts/etc...) if you want to survive

The ugly truth is that if you want the BEST Japanese idols you look into kpop groups with them lol

TLDR; Japan can't keep up with the machine and it doesn't need to

>>281290279
webtoon/naver is like webnovel in that it's too concerned with nickel & diming rather than say, charging a flat rate and offering a superior service than the ad riddled pirate sites.
I might have actually browsed the works they had if the site was even slightly fucking usable, but it's all just shilled shit, on a shit reader, with no fucking customizable options, for fucks sake it's web development, you don't need a hundred million dollar investment to make it function.

Now that the Dex is beyond salvation, they're just going to keep playing whack-a-mole with small groups rather than actually focus fostering creators and actually selling their product.

What Korea and China should do to reach the height of Japanese anime global influence?

>>281290382
>On top of that Korean agencies dump 99% of girl groups into the trash as soon as most of its members turn 28, so there is always an unlimited supply of young slaves and Japan just can't keep up
>making idols follow schedules that are stricter than the fucking army
>agencies absolutely break their bodies, minds and souls
Don't forget the prostitution/'casting couch' which is a thing both in Japan and Korea and affects male and female idols:
>https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/15461159?msockid=2b49cb8374bd65442ea0ddc175836466
>https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-66752320
I hate the idol industry so fucking much. If there is any positive side to VTumours, it's that they'll be replacing this modern slavery shit.

>>281290382
>unlimited supply
Not with those birth rates

>>281290404
Write better stories with better characterization and pacing
I have watched a dozen Chinese animated movies and the only one I like was Nezha 2. Even the first one was crap
They all have such weird pacing and story telling. This isnt exclusive to them though, this includes the rest of the world.

>>281288801
You missed the outrage over Zenless Zone Zero censoring upskirts and Wuthering Waves removing cameltoes.

>>281290404
Unironically start by copying properly. Korea and China only copied the artstyle, but they should also copy the writing style too.

>>281290534
They'll just grab some 'aspirational' kids from SEA.

>>281288801
>Chinese subway station is allowed to have loli in microbikini on wall
Sauce?

>>281290603
Didnt Wuwa bring them back?

>>281290510
lmao at you thinking that chuuba shit is actually free from those things too.
Everything you hate in real idolshit is still there. They just changed packaging to keep up with the times.

>>281288583
>Plastic

Fun Fact: Pic rel is both Korean and natty

Fun Fact Number 2: There isn't 1 (ONE) single girl in the whole of Japan that comes close to the beauty of the Princess of Joseon, Kang Haerin

>>281286779 (OP)
I miss Yuri webtoons. They peaked in 2015-2016.

>>281290563
Weird characterization I can understand, the reason why most anime characterization doesn't feel too strange is because we are all to a degree exposed to it and most places would have their own quirks of characterization, even if in most cases it could be improved upon. Pacing on the other has always felt like it's usually completely off balance for these works.

>>281290632
Don't post 3DPD whores, kill yourself gooklicker.

>>281290632
>Camera filter and shitload of makeup

>>281290404
Very hard to accomplish due to cultural differences. Koreans and Chinese have more of a "third world" mentality than the Japanese for historical reasons. I could only see them having a strong presence or influence in SEA and Central/South America.

webtoons are trash that people who can't do panelling make

>>281290404
Chink could actually write some good stuffs, especially Taiwanese and Cantonese.
Gooks on the other hand are already braindead because of their genderwar and being practically ruled by oligarchs.

>>281286891
rent free

>>281289986
And that's a good thing.

Read that there's surge of Nip women marrying Gook males.
Maybe this is the solution, just let them swap couple.
Let the toxic female gooks mate with stone-cold misogynist Nip male who won't hesitate to beat them.

>>281289253
I've seen it in manga too like the Maougun manga.

>>281290686
>>281290687
>zero counter examples

cope lmao

>>281290849
The slut in your pic will most likely kill herself in the next 5 years either from online bullying or stress after her sugar daddy chaebol exec dumped her.

>>281290632
She looks like Aza from chainsaw

>>281290884
Gooks wanted to be like Nips anime character so bad they paid millions to doctor Kim to change their ugly mugface.

>>281286779 (OP)
Name Manwa that is on the same level as Berserk
Oh wait you can't

>>281290913
>SOLO GOOKING
>GOOKISM
>TOWER OF GOOK

>>281290913
There isn't even other manga that's on the level of early Berserk.

>>281286779 (OP)
You
Will
Never
Be
A
Japanese
Kim

>ask anon to show me a Jap girl more beautiful than Haerin
>he starts malding and seething for no reason

lol

>>281286779 (OP)
Do you really need to publish on those sites to make it big?
How did the guy who made One Punch Man do it?

>>281286779 (OP)
The only webtoon I've liked was I love Amy.

I think more people should be mad that they pay for stuff like crunchyroll and CR channels that money to cancerous original non-japanese animation.

>>281290913
modern manga isnt much better, there is a reason peoples favourite manga lists are usually full of shit that is 15+ years old

Maybe flooding the market with the same repetitive garbage that goes on forever and abandoning any measure of individuality was a bad idea

>>281290279
I mostly don't like webtoons because the vertical scrolling format sucks and this has the consequence of making buying print editions actually worthwhile because they reformat the panels into proper pages. But a lot of people don't mind the stupid scroll format.

Perhaps an unpopular opinion but I've realized I don't really like colored sequential art. There are probably good manhwa/webtoons but 99% chance they are in color and vertical scroll format.

>>281291325
That applies to just about every medium now.

>>281289986
Uh, how so? They are pretty much Korean

>>281290404
Ew, I don’t want chinkshills and gookshills to be more active in /a/

>>281290404
Why do chinks and gooks want to reach Japanese anime lv? They can’t focus on something else?

>>281286825
GRVKE TRVKE

>>281290010
Damn I can tell all the series in that photo have the same plot. No loss here.

>>281287174
Still is throwing facts.
Manga is declining, Manhua is ln the rise and american comics are resurrecting.

>>281291528
>Manhua is ln the rise
To chinks maybe. Nobody else cares

>>281286779 (OP)
I miss when the manga sites weren't flooded with isekai manhwa and webtoons. Jesus Christ.

>>281291561
Yeah, why did they allowed gookshits and chinkshit on manga sites anyway?

>>281291569
Sites wanted the traffic, they don't care that it's not japanese.

>>281291582
Sign…

>>281289350
source on the manga?

>>281288798
Korean society has always had a problem with a lack of a father figure, both literally and figuratively. It explains both the rapid rise of their retarded brand of feminism and the men's misogynistic behavior.

>>281290010
>All manufactured femslop garbage
And nothing of a value was lost

Despite it being the same garbage, I like Hand Jumper.
Maybe it's bcause it's made by a Korean-American and so understands the situation being presented is awful and the people involved (including the protaganist are bad people).
Semi-outsider looking in.

>>281286779 (OP)
Damn, you mean just copying solo leveling over and over isn't a good idea?

>>281291528
>Manhua is ln the rise
What? You mean chinese BL novel? Faggots and fujo reading that shit sure, but no one in asia read manhua

>>281292772
I've heard that the CCP banned all BL and even arrested the writers.

>>281292668
>copying solo leveling
lol

>>281290010
>Korean webtoon companies, which entered overseas markets seeing growth potential, are closing their businesses one after another due to lower-than-expected revenues. In particular, illegal distribution is analyzed to have hindered Korean webtoon companies. According to the “2024 Survey on Overseas Korean Wave Content Infringement” report by the Korea Copyright Protection Agency, 71.6% of the replicated content posted on illegal distribution sites overseas last year was webtoons. The damage caused by illegal webtoons amounts to hundreds of billions of won, with the damage in 2023 reaching 446.5 billion won. At the same time, in markets such as Europe, where print culture still dominates, Korean webtoon companies are struggling to gain traction.

>To make matters worse, the growth of the domestic webtoon market is also slowing down. According to the “2024 Webtoon Industry Survey” report by the Korea Creative Content Agency, the total sales of the domestic webtoon industry in 2023 recorded 2.189 trillion won. Although it exceeded 2 trillion won for the first time since records began, the industry is more concerned that the market will shrink from its peak in 2023, rather than being optimistic. In fact, the growth rate of the domestic webtoon market in 2023 (19.7%) has significantly decreased compared to 2021 (48.6%) and 2020 (64.7%). The number of works registered on domestic webtoon platforms as of last year also decreased by 6.7% to 18,792 from the previous year (20,141).

>At the same time, in markets such as Europe, where print culture still dominates, Korean webtoon companies are struggling to gain traction.
Muh digital age, everyone reading webtroon on their phone LMAO

>>281292841
Do they just want all the profit from danmei to go straight to the CCP and not share it with the author?

>>281292889
Nah, China's birthrate is abysmal at the moment, They surely don't want any homosexual shit to poison the minds of young Chinese men.

>>281292939
But they seem pretty happy to export it and profit.

>>281288583
The simple reason: they didn't need to.
The make more than enough money in their domestic idol market.
Kowtowing to gaijins would just alienate their existing audience.

>>281292955
>But they seem pretty happy to export it and profit.
Of course, just like Covid and Tiktok.

>>281292841
Every time i look for sources on this one it's literally "dude trust me bro"

>>281292997
>Every time i look for sources on this one it's literally "dude trust me bro"
What do you mean? You want me to google "china arrest boy love author" for you?

>>281293033
And it leads to westcuck propaganda outlets with no sources.

>>281292939
>Poison the minds of chinese men
Women. If the CCP wanted the men to start having babies, they'd ban gacha and other male oriented media.

>>281293056
Then google "china arrest boy love author" in chinese then you fucking retarded monkey cunt. What the fuck is propaganda about this shit?

https://tw.news.yahoo.com/%E5%8F%B0%E7%81%A3%E6%B5%B7%E6%A3%A0%E6%96%87%E5%AD%B8%E7%B6%B2%E7%AB%99%E7%99%BC%E8%A1%A8bl%E3%80%8C%E8%80%BD%E7%BE%8E%E3%80%8D%E4%BD%9C%E5%93%81-%E4%B8%AD%E5%9C%8B%E9%80%BE50%E5%90%8D%E4%BD%9C%E5%AE%B6%E9%81%AD%E6%8A%93%E6%8D%95-044506668.html
https://www.ctwant.com/article/427819/

>>281290349
A merker of the highest quality

>>281287092
>>281290349
Oh koreaboo mad because not even korean themselves give about his webtroon

>>281287092
>>281290349
Oh koreaboo mad because not even korean themselves give a shit about his webtroon

>>281292841
Imagine getting raped and imprison for posting yaoi lol, chinks are insane

>>281288022
>there will be a unification of the koreas in our lifetime, one way or another.
well I believe it. NK is one of the few countries on earth with non dysgenic birth rates meaning they're getting on average smarter every generation.

>>281292939
This shit is fucking bizzare LMAO

>>281290714
lmao at the level of retarded shit people say with such confidence.

Good. Let those worthless shitters rot in hell.
Anyways, it was always known that korea was hopelessly inferior to Japan. Now it's only a matter of time before china follow suit.

>>281287402
Lately he's been making Precure threads before the current one archives, and spends hours keeping his own threads alive while they're ignored.

>>281292939
Didn't grindr come from japan?

>>281292939
Didn't Grindr come from china?

>>281286825
>Hitler profile pic
lol

Honestly, I avoid webtoon stuff because the Korean stuff all seems boring and samey, while the western stuff all seems gay and lame.
The only people I could see thinking these provide good competition to manga are shonenfags who only read whatever the current popular shonen manga is or isekaifags who have what can most accurately be described as very...questionable taste.

>>281286779 (OP)
>" The content is all the same. "
LMAO, even the Koreans/Chinese themselves recognize that all their webtoon/manhwa/shithwa are all just the same shit. No unique artstyles, no unique stories, no unique paneling, nothing. All the characters also look alike. If you've seen one shithwa, you've seen them all.
The only people who deny this are the apologists here on /a/ who should be kicked out because all their non-Japanese TRASH is off-topic.

>>281287888
>i despise gooks so much for introducing the cancer that is called vertical scrolling format.
You know many webcomics had been using long format since at least the early 00s?

wk going wholesale on white spacing was retarded but what can you expect

>>281286779 (OP)
>" The content is all the same.
Even the koreans are starting to notice it.
I mean the first few dozen times I read some power leveling reincarnated webtoon, reincarnated villaness or some murim with game system it was fun but now it gets old really quick.

>>281286779 (OP)
>puke only slop and thinking it can sustain
>why we're dying

>>281293383
I don't know a single early 2000s webcomic that relied on vertical scrolling.
They were all formatted like traditional print comics, whether that be floppies or newspaper strips.

>>281293620
No I'm not saying it was widespread but you had a few examples of it since the scroll function and image editors permitted it.

Is Tower of god still going on?

After watching Solo Leveling I can safely say that if this is what people consider a great webtoon, then webtoons as a whole must be crap.
Like genuinely a slight step above AI-generated garbage.

>>281293377
Even western comics got totally btfo by manga, and there's already complaints that the webtoon apps are filled with ads and microtransactions which people have little tolerance for

>>281286779 (OP)
manhwa imploded for similar reasons

>>281293851
Yea, the reliance on these shitty ad-filled apps also isn't great for longevity, since most people outside of children don't want to put up with that shit.

>>281292939
Their fault for the whole one child policy retardation.

>>281291528
>american comics are resurrecting
Lmao
>ENTER, OUR GREATEST HITS BUT THE MC IS EITHER A WOMAN, NIGGER, FAGGOT OR A BROWN NOW
LMFAO
While I've met plenty of people who are into manga or anime, it was never the case for the elusive comicslop enjoyer who only, allegedly, exist on reddit or other similar shitholes.

>>281286779 (OP)
>see cool gooknovel
>it doesn't get adapted to a gookhwa
>korean rights owners have 0 plans to ever release it in english
>dmca any attempts to translate it anyways.

>>281286779 (OP)
Back then I wouldn't care but nowadays i have endured enough Gook shilling that i want that industry and every single Korean industry in general to crash so I don't have to see literal subhumans polluting the internet

>>281286779 (OP)
Even the unthinking worthless masses can only tolerate so much formulaic cattlefeed

>>281294521
>formulaic
Originality is a meme. There's nothing wrong with same-slop if it's done well, which gooks can't for someone reason (neither can holy-wood anymore).

>>281286779 (OP)
This is an anime and manga board, fucktard

I've read an embarrassing amount of gookshit the past few years. Why? Maybe it's depression, boredom, brain damage or something else.
>The content is all the same
This is very true. I've also yet to read something truly great. There are some good things here and there, and my inner-9 year old is pleased that there is a decent amount of edgy content, but most stories really fall under two categories:
>random guy gets cheat powers and becomes an edgelord
>girl is reincarnated in a fantasy romance book and has to survive and omg the duke of the north fell in love with me???
That's at least 80% of what I encounter. Maybe I'm wrong and I only see this shit because it's what gets translated, but the lack of variety is very real. Some stories try to do some interesting things, but most are just formulaic and get boring fast.

>>281294630
There's a difference between being unoriginal and being formulaic.
Something can be unoriginal but not feel like it's made based off of a template, the issue with a lot of these shitty app manhwa (and manga) is that they feel like they include elements not because the creator thinks they're interesting, but because the creator thinks they're elements their story has to include to be favored by the most rabid children and thirdies who might propel their story to the level of Solo Gookening.
Basically the storytelling equivalent of those youtubers who make retarded thumbnails with big red/yellow text and arrows pointing at random shit.

>>281293963
america, russia and china's greatest ally is responsible for that

>>281286779 (OP)
>Five Reasons Why K-Webtoons Are Facing a Crisis [Special Report]
>Reporter Myeong Sun-young
>Reporter Na Geon-woong

another obvious reason is the ridiculous korean name, like Sum Tin Wong

>>281294630
>same-slop
schlock?

does korea produce anything other than "dungeon appears in modern korea and MC who gets bullied by everyone actually has super strong kill so he levels solo and becomes the strongest"?

>>281294694
what about the insanely powerful guy gets reincarnated type?

>>281294964
there's their wuxia/murim?

>>281287979
The thing that pisses me off is that the comic panel is fine for phones if you put even a little bit of effort in. All long strip is good for is making things more "bingeable" it's the literary equivalent of those hoses they feed foie gras geese with

>>281288512
>Nah, the main issue in the west is politics
Lmao even before they started adding "woke" stuff to games they had that problem. You might not be old enough to remember the so called "brown and bloom" phase or when every game MC was a bald gruff dude reenacting the latest COD campaign. The wrapper may change but it's the same rot that's been going on since the late 2000's

>>281286825
no no you don't understand! The breaker is gonna be the next big thing! No wait... tower of god! that's gonna be hugeeee! Wait... solo leveling! that's like... massive!

>>281294964
They have their own non-villainess shoujo like True Beauty

>>281293202
They've been cracking down on certain popular novels for a while now. It's not just BL either, stuff that's seen as promoting harmful ideology that goes against chinese socialism got banned top from what I've heard. Although, it's not all top down from the government. Users also mass reported stories for the same reason to get stuff banned.

>>281293562
>Even the koreans are starting to notice it.
when will the brown thirdies on all the manga reading sites catch on?

>>281286779 (OP)

>Gates appear
>Player is shit tier
>Mother is ill so he has to hold on
>Finally acquires power
>Job change
>Can now summon an army of monsters
>Path to godhood unlocked

Believe it or not this is NOT the plot of Solo Leveling.

All I know is that korean guy made one of the best pieces of incest hentai out there but also one of the worst...

ok /a/ try to mention 1(ONE) webtoon title that you think is actually good and unique

>>281296039
Pretty dated but
The friendly winter
The daily life of us siblings

I will not comment on shounen power fantasy

>>281296039
The Boxer and Trace.
God of Highschool is fun but the actual story is okay at best.

Lookism is bad because it abandoned its original premise of being an introspetive slice of life to focus on being a martial arts crime thriller before going full swing into being Korean Baki, it gets even worse because the story feels the need to artificially extend itself with dramatic twists and melodrama on top of the insane fightism. Why this and the rest of the author's works like How to Fight/Viral Hit are so popular eludes me, his only good work was Fuck My Life which was nice and short, only for him to ruin it by making a sequel years later nobody asked for.

>>281295346
Those were still games and perfectly fine for AAA slop. Btw woke shit is not modern, games were very liberal in the early 2000s too, they just didn't push full propaganda.

>>281287959
Just pull out all US aid and let them be ass raped by the north, you'll see how quickly the women start breeding (with North Korean men of course) and the "men" stop being such whinny faggots

>>281296332
>Lookism is bad because it abandoned its original premise of being an introspetive slice of life to focus on being a martial arts crime thriller before going full swing into being Korean Baki
What the fuck lmao. I thought it was a shoujo criticizing korean looksmaxxing culture

What is the deal with korean foodgasms?

>>281296529
Or pissing themself

>>281296340
Well he mentioned "politics" and usually on this site that means "woke" (whatever the fuck that means). Regardless the rot of template games and producers ruining creativity has been an issue for a very VERY long time.
> they just didn't push full propaganda
Lmaoing again they absolutely did push propaganda just the type you like or are okay with or does military propaganda not count

>>281296481
> I thought it was a shoujo criticizing korean looksmaxxing culture
That's how it fucking begins before at some point it becomes a crime thriller with realistic sense of scale before eventually it just becomes Baki but all the men are handsome.

Like, there's an arc when one of the bullied characters who was important to the original themes of the story pops back in after he escapes from juvenile detention and when he and the protagonist have a discussion before they fight, the best the MC can mutter is "lol lmao." It's a good microcosm of the sheer disconnect before how it started and what its become.

>>281296839
It's ok propaganda when it's fun. Games stopped being fun first so the propaganda is a problem Simple as

>>281296948
Fair enough

>>281292939
What the actual fuck, are they really that desperate?

>>281293202
>getting raped
Oh that would be dream come true for fujofoids

>>281296039
Bastard
A Mark Against Thee
Flawed Almighty
Sweet Home
Shotgun Boy

Currently reading:
Surviving the Game as a Barbarian
The Knight Only Lives Today
Hand Jumper
also started Hellper recently, looks promising

>>281286779 (OP)
You don't know how over it is. In a couple of years, magazines like WSJ will be publishing manga made by gaijin.

>>281296039
Superhuman Era and Hive.

>>281289569
As much as I'd like to clown on Korea for doing asset flips, a ton of manga use B&W rendered 3d objects and backgrounds in their manga too.

>>281290510
>If there is any positive side to VTumours, it's that they'll be replacing this modern slavery shit.
>doesn't know

>>281298584
We're talking about Manhwa though

>>281298584
You already have them.
Kadokawa published Devil's Candy in Aokishi.
https://www.devilscandycomic.com/about
We had an anon published in COMIC Mugen Tensei.
Comic Zenon has a regular competition for authors from overseas and Kyushu and some artists had multiple oneshots.
It's hard to tell whether an author is actually Japanese.

>>281298584
Most japs don't give a shit about western """manga""", they are probably looking for slop to sell to gaijin.

>>281298398
>Surviving the Game as a Barbarian
I read this one but if he doesn't wife the barbarian girl he's a traitor to his tribe.

>>281287959
The men are cucked, they still get conscripted into the army for a country and women that despises them. Women even laugh about it.

>>281299216
>We had an anon published in COMIC Mugen Tensei.
What? When did that happen?

>>281300561
>they still get conscripted into the army for a country and women that despises them
tbf there's not much they can do about that

>>281291703
Hinomaru gaisen otome. Cute girls denying war crimes.

>>281300609
What do you mean? They can refuse. All of them.

>>281300442
Haven't seen that troon for a while.
Is xhe finally killed xhimself?

>>281300704
>(((media)))
sublter than I expected,what does the raw use?

>>281296039
BlackSmith, but it has nothing to do with Korea.

>>281296431
The norks aren't breeding either and their population is half of the South Korea if their official bullshit is to be believed, it's probably much smaller in reality. Also, norks have worms in their intestines and internal organs, lol.

>>281300961
The notks are at least at replacement breeding rates.

>>281296431
Nah, just put the women on interracial breeding ground with white and latino chuds from USA.
The men could be useful for bullet fodder in Iran/Gaza.

>>281301030
Not after the coof and when Kim-chi Gook started sending norks to the Ukrainian frontlines.

>>281286779 (OP)
I had a hunch that webtoons were astroturfed by the Korean government.

>>281286779 (OP)
>Webtoon
Lol LMAO even, who cares? I only enjoy based CHADwha, I don't care for any plot, I just want my VABOOOOMMMM OLs.

>>281288942
No wonder Korean nationalist feminists like Kronii hated it. These ugly designs make a mockery of Korean values.

>>281292939
>>281293219
Honestly? Would.

>>281300577
2024-05 and 2024-11.

>>281290606
>only copied the artstyle
>they should also copy the writing style too.
You could say the same for every fucking writer, producer, director in the world because that's all anyone knows how to do these days. Even modern american cartoons are only copying anime artstyles.

>>281301142
they cant do sex scenes for shit

>>281296039
Shark

>>281286987
Dude, this is 4chan, the only way for retards here to make threads is astroturfing anything.

>>281295383
>The breaker
The breaker part 1 and new waves was good, however.
Or at least was more enjoyable because it wasn't in the webtoon format.
The third part really soured me due to that that I ended up dropping it

>>281291528
>american comics are resurrecting
Come on, anon.

>>281296039
Cinderella stepmom.
That's it. The only one that's tying me from this medium.

>>281286779 (OP)
webtoons are literally the worst of the worst garbage. Koreans are mainland Chinese people but with a right wing government.

All dogeaters do is create horrid ripoff garbage literally the worst of the fucking worst writting and art imaginable. These "people" are unable to create anything original, as said much likemainland chinese people. They completely lack all creativity logic passion etc etc etc. All they can do is copy something without understanding anything about the subject. Have no basic fundamentals in art/writting, is unable to think wait whoa whoa this is realy bad I need to re-do/think this.

K-pop is literally the worst music known to man far far worse than America nigger mumble trap crap and fucking worse than god damn raeggtron. These ""people"" are unable to think ontheir own, they can only consume. And dear lord all they do is consume the lowest of the low garbage no class no dignity no logic no nothing just consume because our overlords said to spend all our money&freetime on this garbage.

These """people"""" are twice+ the fucking alcoholics compared to Slavs even the rigger. They are literally killing thesmselves by the age of 40 because they are literally so retarded and lack all logic that god damn self instinct and protection the will to live while not harming oneself. They completely lack this. They are bugs literal fucking insects, the worst of the worst of chinese mainlanders with a corrupt as fuck cult family government meaning the average person is unable to make it in life because its rigged from the start.

Webtoons are cancer if you support this shit you hate fucking art animation comics literature all forms of you. You only consume shit because someone told you to.

>>281293334
No

>>281302230
He's also in 2025-07 it seems.

>>281293710
Been on hiatus for some time since season 3 ended unless the site I was reading from stopped uploading. Author mentioned taking a break and wanting to do spin offs since the cast it so fucking bloated now.

>>281294964
Yes, don't know what happened to them by the late 2000's but everything before was decent if not then better than the shit they're producing today. What little soul they had got completely removed by the 2010's.

>>281288296
North korea is best korea. Apologize or you get the nuke!

>>281288942
I know I'm judging this from a short clip, but this feels like they're intentionally making it as ugly as possible for "comedy". Seems like a very American thing. I find it pretty repulsive I bet people are praising it for being "unique" and "expressive". Do these people remember what the golden age of American animation was like? It's way more creative and cartoony than this while still looking good.

>>281304289
i miss when korean cinema was good

>>281287959
I think both sides are to blame but it feels like men are taught to hate women on a visceral level which causes women to hate men. You can't have a society that has men treat women worse than property.

>>281292939
Don't they still have a nation's worth of men to women ratio? What the fuck are men going to do when there are literally no women thanks to china's one child policy?

>>281304626
Send them to African women

>>281295383
I enjoy the first two but the breaker really is a waste by going with the webtoon format and tower of god just kind of went out of control. Solo leveling is slop though. It starts out decently and then gets extremely boring as no one can do anything but the mc.

>>281293963
The one-child policy was lifted a long time ago. People in China are simply choosing not to have kids for the same social and economic reasons as other countries.
>>281304626
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail-order_bride#China
>China is one of the main source countries of East Asian mail-order brides. Vietnamese women are traveling to China as mail-order brides for rural Han Chinese men to earn money for their families and a rise in the standard of living, matchmaking between Chinese men and Vietnamese women has increased and has not been affected by troubled relations between Vietnam and China. Some Vietnamese women from Lào Cai who married Han Chinese men stated that among their reasons for doing so was that Vietnamese men beat their wives, engaged in affairs with mistresses, and refused to help their wives with chores while Han men actively helped their wives carry out chores and care for them. Cambodian women also travel to China as mail order brides for rural men. In the majority of cases, young women are persuaded by friends and relatives with an offer, and at least 5 percent of Vietnamese women in marriages to Chinese men are victims of human trafficking. There is no established bilateral cooperation between China and Vietnam to deal with the problematic aspects of undocumented, transnational marriages, since the Chinese marriage market crisis has been significantly alleviated by female immigrants. Despite prohibition, illegal border crossing and de facto marriage are common and uncontrollable.

>>281304943
The one child policy has generations worth of problems.

>>281286779 (OP)
Because all the good stuff is hidden, its difficult to search for

Tfw my copy of the ORV light novel just arrived

>>281305327
>reading the inferior omniscient viewpoint

>>281305376
Its offically translated and not mtl sloppa. The cover is nice

Fucks sake bros, im already struggling to learn nip

>>281305185
I fucking love powerlevels i dont even remember the story anymore