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PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281365751 >>281365787 >>281366014 >>281374174 >>281375783
Kinnikuman Nisei Storytime Volume 21 Continued
Continuing from >>281365743
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281365787 >>281365816 >>281365844
>>281365751 (OP)
Oh, boy, I can't wait to see this group fight whoever the villains of this arc are!
Anonymous No.281365790
>>281365723
most of the time she's just embarrassed to be seen near him. And she spent all of the Choujin Olympics arc pining after Jade. and in UTag its Chaos. I figured she was going to either come around if Nisei had another arc or two, or end up losing him to Jackie or another girl that more openly cared for him, warts and all.
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281365804 >>281365844
Anonymous No.281365816 >>281365844
>>281365787
Oh no no not the washed up Brocken jacket!
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281365821
Anonymous No.281365844
>>281365787
>>281365804
>Mantaro's hair growing.

So does this mean someone was cutting his hair the whole time? Did he have to remove his mask for that or did they just cut around the top?

>>281365816
at least he didnt turn to alcoholism
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281365846 >>281365868 >>281365870 >>281365885
Anonymous No.281365849
>chapter 213
>gazelleman 0 wins
>jade 2 wins vs an olympic jobber and gazelleman
>wally 0 wins
>checkmate 0 wins
>terry 1 win vs a bad guy
why are they our heroes
Anonymous No.281365855
>>281364057
What if Kevin just jumped up and Muscle Gravity'd the Millennium?
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281365861 >>281366043 >>281371114
Anonymous No.281365868
>>281365846
Meat gets raped by akuma Shogun in the summer of '92
Anonymous No.281365870
>>281365846
ENTER MY SHOGUN
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281365885 >>281365909 >>281365915
>>281365846
Well, Meat, the face looks like Satan, but the sillhouette seems to be Akuma Shogun
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281365902 >>281365917 >>281365924
Anonymous No.281365909
>>281365885
Before the revival it always felt like Yude could never decide if Akuma shogun and satan were the same person or not.
Anonymous No.281365915
>>281365885
Surely Yude wouldn't forget that they're 2 different people who don't even necessarily like each other.
Anonymous No.281365917
>>281365902
meat got xis period
Anonymous No.281365924 >>281365984 >>281369200
>>281365902
this is some scary shit
Meat needs a chojin priest
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281365925 >>281365962
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281365941 >>281365994
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281365962 >>281366015 >>281366021 >>281366093
>>281365925
That's... a weirdly specific feeling, Meat
Anonymous No.281365984
>>281365924
Get the wizard that sealed away jiijoman
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281365986
Anonymous No.281365994
>>281365941
More of The Man's toys laying around like lego blocks on the kitchen floor?
Anonymous No.281366014
>>281365751 (OP)
Now this is something I rescue from Nisei, Mantaro having to deal with a situation that his father didn't go through.
Anonymous No.281366015
>>281365962
Aliens are chojin you idiots
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281366021 >>281366035 >>281366083 >>281366089 >>281366105 >>281366142 >>281366147
>>281365962
And so it begins
Anonymous No.281366035
>>281366021
HUMANCHADS WON?
Anonymous No.281366043
>>281365861
>fuck you Nisei Meat
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281366046 >>281366089 >>281366113
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281366066 >>281366113
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281366081 >>281366105
Anonymous No.281366083
>>281366021
This is a human-only market! Chojin keep moving!
Anonymous No.281366086 >>281366132 >>281366264
this ending is bullshit
Kevin should've been pissed at Warsman for using him for his personal revenge and realize that it's an empty win because he never cared about the Robin name. live punk, die punk. poser.
Anonymous No.281366089 >>281366126 >>281366127 >>281366157 >>281366178
>>281366021
>>281366046

Is this the first time the series has shown humans being racists to chojins?
Anonymous No.281366093
>>281365962
>could be aliens
>no, its chojin-made
>chojins are aliens
>its not aliens!
Anonymous No.281366105
>>281366021
>Hey lets lynch the super human out in the streets
Jesus Christ these fuckers are Marvel Civilian level of stupid
>>281366081
And they won their prize too
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281366112
Anonymous No.281366113
>>281366066
>>281366046
>entire arc of justice choujin senselessly killing both each other and random civilians
>next arc begins with a devil choujin awakening because of mistreatment by humans and acting solely in self defense
AIIIEEE MY DEMONS I KNEEL
Anonymous No.281366126
>>281366089
No, Jade's adoptive parents got murdered for taking care of him.
Anonymous No.281366127
>>281366089
Jade's backstory
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281366132 >>281366574
>>281366086
You seriously underestimate Kevin's abandonment issues
Anonymous No.281366142 >>281366152 >>281371155
>>281366021
the fuck is wrong with people's Nisei? I mean the original run and revivals ones are pretty much shitty too but Nisei ones are just a different kind
Anonymous No.281366147
>>281366021
>Uh, all the superhumans, or choujin as I like to call them, get off this market because it's for human people only, understand, cause if you don't I will fire the Capillaria rays again!!!
Anonymous No.281366152
>>281366142
It's like we're suddenly in a shitty X-men comic
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281366155 >>281366196 >>281366227
Anonymous No.281366157
>>281366089
Not at all. From the top of my head there's Robin's in-laws and the people who bullied young Warsman. Young chojin and chojin who find themselves in intimate relationships with humans seem to be vulnerable.
Anonymous No.281366178 >>281366242
>>281366089
This makes me wonder, why would chojin take this at all? Or how would humans kill them when bullets can just bounce off them
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281366183
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Anonymous No.281366196
>>281366155
>jannyman
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281366219 >>281366328
Anonymous No.281366227
>>281366155
this sounds more plausible than human bullying chojin.
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281366233 >>281366327
Anonymous No.281366241
HOW MANY FUCKING PAGES IS THIS VOLUME?
Anonymous No.281366242
>>281366178
X-men shit. If they get uppity at their mistreatment the House Choujin will go and beat their asses course I have a feeling like the X-men all of these Choujin's solution to their mistreatment is genocide and domination
Anonymous No.281366250
what the fuck is going on?
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281366254
Anonymous No.281366261 >>281367983
Introducing the arc with more retcons than any other arc. Nothing in this entire arc will make sense later on.

Also this was during the era where the translator really hated translated "ak7na shogun" so Instead he's "General devil"

Which makes him sound like "average devil", I don't know why they didn't just translate it as "Devil General" or "Devil Shogun"
Anonymous No.281366264
>>281366086
Kevin believing anything except that Warsman did it all out of genuine interest in him and that they share a deep master/student bond would absolutely destroy him, keep in mind that the timeframe for their training was 3 months, give or take, and he took it upon himself to fix Chloe's mask and carry it around in the victory parade.
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PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281366285 >>281366307 >>281366308 >>281366340 >>281366363
Anonymous No.281366297
THIS NIGGA TRICKED ME INTO HONORING MY FATHER
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281366305 >>281366315
Anonymous No.281366307
>>281366285
dude, next time knock the door first.
Anonymous No.281366308
>>281366285
Yes, meat will look at you like ricardo
Anonymous No.281366315
>>281366305
Terry wearing the Kurt Angle fit
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281366325 >>281366352
Anonymous No.281366327
>>281366233
Sure, why not.
Anonymous No.281366328 >>281368472
>>281366219
>mentions Mantaro and Kid by name but not Kevin
What is up with this?
Anonymous No.281366340
>>281366285
so Nisei was done before Kinnikuman Lady? if it was I can see the inspiration for Buffalo Bonita thing wtih Meat
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281366341
Anonymous No.281366352
>>281366325
d'aww the boring technical fighters are having a playdate
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281366355
Anonymous No.281366363 >>281366410
>>281366285
Remembering Buffalo Bonita's proclivities, Buffaloman sneaking into the Beverly Park house with a sleeping Meat inside makes me uneasy
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Anonymous No.281366384 >>281366404
tldr me on this arc. I never watched Ultimate Muscle beyond Bone Cold.
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281366401 >>281366415 >>281366468
Anonymous No.281366404
>>281366384
New age devil chojin arc
Anonymous No.281366410 >>281366444
>>281366363
Didn't he take a look at Meat's dick in a previous arc and said something about how Meat hasn't grown at all?
Anonymous No.281366415
>>281366401
Oh God, they're undressing
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281366423
Anonymous No.281366444
>>281366410
Yes he did.
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281366450
Anonymous No.281366468
>>281366401
Guys I think I'm GAR for Nisei Buffaloman
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281366473 >>281366531 >>281366542
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Anonymous No.281366531
>>281366473
kek if he's not switching sides he's doing this
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Anonymous No.281366542 >>281369280
>>281366473
>final panel Buffaloman
>A person who's not a shota touched me? Disgusting!
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Anonymous No.281366574
>>281366132
o shit it's metal atlantis
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281366575 >>281366605 >>281366684 >>281366711
PokeSpe Storytimer !vZSXdAkJGk No.281366590 >>281366731 >>281367894 >>281371218
Done for today
Come back tomorrow to see what happens to Meat
Anonymous No.281366605
>>281366575
Meat traced this from yoshikage kira
Anonymous No.281366624
Kevin is just a more fun character than Meat for Nisei to be obnoxious about.
Anonymous No.281366684
>>281366575
the meat rape scene went a bit too far in my opinion
Anonymous No.281366711
>>281366575
Raped by a pack of Akuma chojins in the heat of 07 just like in 82
Anonymous No.281366731
>>281366590
thanks op.
Anonymous No.281366992 >>281367622
Anonymous No.281367257 >>281367804 >>281369476
After checking, I can confirm all Kevin art is insanely gay

I would post some here but it was gayer than I expected. Just search γ‚±γƒ“γƒ³γƒžγ‚Ήγ‚― on pixiv and keep scrolling.
Anonymous No.281367622
>>281366992
Anonymous No.281367804
>>281367257
> Kinnikuman Nisei has a little under 3,000 tagged works
> A literal third of those are Kevin

It really puts into perspective how popular Kevin is in the context of Nisei and how much it's due to fujos: Mantaro has about 500 tagged works but a lot of it are either solo art or with Rinko, while works featuring Kevin are overwhelmingly Kevin/Warsman (Chloe) and Kevin/Mars.

Other characters like Mars also have a higher proportion of ship art, but their overall numbers are lower than Kevin's - Mars is a close contender at 600 or so works, Jade is at a little under 400.

With Warsman sitting at a not too shabby 1,800 works out of roughly 20,000 for OG/Revival Kinnikuman and how linked his character is to Kevin's, it's no surprise that not only Kevin performed extremely well in popularity polls but that he also remains decently popular despite not having actually featured in anything for years.
Anonymous No.281367894
>>281366590
Thanks OP despite all the rage and everything I did enjoyed the Olympics arc or mayb just enjoyed reading it here
Anonymous No.281367967
I just caught up
Damn he really just fucking wrecked him lmao
Anonymous No.281367983 >>281368334
>>281366261
One thing I've always hated about the translation is that it makes it sound like "Akuma Shogun" is a proper name. It's pretty clear in Japanese that "akuma shogun" is just his title/rank. Because he's the shogun of the akuma chojin. His real name is Goldman or whoever else happens to take the mantle.
Anonymous No.281368034
Poor Mantaro, forcibly changed into an orangutan on live television
Anonymous No.281368334 >>281368504
>>281367983
Aluma Shogun is his new name as the Lord of evil, just like how The Man became Strong the Budo.

You wouldn't translate Budo as "powerful the battle man" just because it wasn't his original name. Therefore it's best just to leave Aluma Shogun how it is. Assumed identities shouldn't be translated
What manga are we reading? Are we reading Kinnikuman or are we reading "Muscular Man"
Anonymous No.281368472
>>281366328
He's a boomer who project Suguru and Terry onto their sons
Anonymous No.281368504
>>281368334
Technically, Strong the Budo was just a false identity. The Man "real" 2nd name was Choujin Enma
Anonymous No.281368648
Kevin is my true hero
Mantaro is a loser who regresses every match
Anonymous No.281368940 >>281369242
Man thinking about it, a story about someone like Robin Mask who had so much respect and adoration that he believed everything he did was Justice, fighting against someone like Ricardo who was shunned for being a Devil in spite of trying to be a better person probably could have made for a really good story.
Anonymous No.281369021
https://youtu.be/yC7tV4H_hAc?si=1ukXB5rV2AV00mVu

Rewatching this scene makes me really wonder what the hell could have happened in those following years.
Anonymous No.281369200
>>281365924
>chojin priest

Maybe Ataru still has his priest clothes somewhere.
Anonymous No.281369242 >>281369279
>>281368940
if anyone just said "i believe in you ricardo you can be a justice chojin" he could've easily switched sides
Anonymous No.281369279
>>281369242
You could give the Terryman train spot to him and have the people he saved recognize his heroism where the superficial masses shun him. It sucks because I know that Yudetamago are entirely capable of writing that, they just haven’t remembered how to in this part of the run.
Anonymous No.281369280
>>281366542
Never forget that Meat and Mantaro are the technically the same age.
Anonymous No.281369476
>>281367257
I'm already versed at this.
Anonymous No.281369761
I can see what they were going for with Kevin asking Chloe why he was helping like when Warsman couldn't understand why Suguru would risk the throne for his sake, but having Kevin develop a belief in friendship as a result just doesn't fucking work when the person in question is telling him to kill the son of someone who's supposed to be his friend.
Anonymous No.281370781 >>281370871
Lady Kelly and her trainer, Nikolai
Anonymous No.281370871 >>281371439
>>281370781
Nikolai looks like she can be bullied.
Anonymous No.281371021
>>281365463
He was. Just like The Samurai was Japanese.
Anonymous No.281371065
>>281365500
Please be patient with Check. He's a little tech illiterate.
Anonymous No.281371114
>>281365861
Deja vu
Anonymous No.281371137
The anime's ending for the fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G88t0tKROls
Anonymous No.281371155 >>281371233
>>281366142
People hating choujin were a thing in the original. e.g. Warsman.
Anonymous No.281371218
>>281366590
Thx mate.
Anonymous No.281371224
FUCK BRAZIL!!!
Anonymous No.281371233 >>281371244 >>281372108
>>281371155
That was because he had a silly robot face though, not due to him being a chojin
Anonymous No.281371244
>>281371233
And the French fish is being attacked because he's ugly. So the idea was still there.
Anonymous No.281371273 >>281371349 >>281371418 >>281371429 >>281371514 >>281371517 >>281386158
>Anons are angry at the aftermath of the match
After a match ends, justice choujins no longer harbor any resentment towards their opponent. Regardless of what has happened inside of the ring, even if the result was death, this ideal should be upheld. So the Kevin hate is silly.
Anonymous No.281371349 >>281371418 >>281371606 >>281386158
>>281371273
It's just Mantarofags being salty. We LOVE and RESPECT CHADvin Mask the Impregnable Knight here.
Anonymous No.281371354
>>281365047
Thx buddy.
Anonymous No.281371418 >>281371454 >>281390550
>>281371273
>>281371349
Anonymous No.281371429
>>281371273
But Nemesis, you're a Perfect Chojin, not a Justice Chojin
Anonymous No.281371439
>>281370871
She tells Kelly to strip and molest... let's go with Marie, after Taro's mom, to avenge Lady Robin
Anonymous No.281371446
Could Kevin Mask force Justiceman to sell something?
Anonymous No.281371454
>>281371418
>Resorting to insults when confronted by the TRUTH
Anonymous No.281371514 >>281371556
>>281371273
>After a match ends, justice choujins no longer harbor any resentment towards their opponent.
Anonymous No.281371517 >>281371527
>>281371273
It's real awkward to see it so suddenly. Just minutes ago Kevin was trying to force Mantaro to commit suicide just to work through his insecurities and daddy issues, then he goes "You're pretty swell, water under the bridge amiright?"
Anonymous No.281371527
>>281371517
He's just so cool and generous... I wish he was my son instead...
Anonymous No.281371532 >>281371551 >>281372222
That one finger Bone Cold has makes me think he's half Omega Centaurian and related to the Omegamen
Anonymous No.281371551
>>281371532
>Omegamen start their invasion
>end up feeling weirded out by people cheering for them killing choujins and leave
Anonymous No.281371556 >>281371802
>>281371514
Barracuda is not a justice choujin. Now if it was, for example, Robin Mask instead you would have a point.
Anonymous No.281371585
It's weird that throughout the manga we barely see Robin. We never get his side of the story when it comes to Kevin.
Anonymous No.281371606
>>281371349
Fiona is so lucky
Anonymous No.281371802
>>281371556
I still think Robin would have straight murdered Warsman for setting up the whole tragedy if Kevin actually did kill Mantaro
Anonymous No.281372108
>>281371233
The kids specifically mocked the way Warsman bled red blood instead of oil after they hit him with rocks. It wasn't just because he was ugly.
Anonymous No.281372222
>>281371532
Well, You never see his mom, so maybe?
Anonymous No.281373112
Anonymous No.281373252
This makes women fall in love.
Anonymous No.281373993
Anonymous No.281374016
Anonymous No.281374174 >>281375662 >>281376292 >>281380960
>>281365751 (OP)
The Ruralman did nothing wrong. Mantaro was always ignoring him or needing to be babysitted (literally sometimes). It's actually weird how he always has to be told how to get out of holds.
Anonymous No.281374832 >>281375214
Finally caught up with the last few volumes and I've come to say that Ricardo did nothing wrong
Anonymous No.281375214
>>281374832
Anonymous No.281375662
>>281374174
True, but Mantaro and Ruralman had a conflict of personalities. Ruralman didn't waste energy unless it was to tell Mantaro to switch moves. Mantaro does badly with a second like that. He needs one like Meat or Terry the Kid to wrangle him. Mantaro was actually trying to slow down and trust Ruralman, but Ruralman's taciturn style was too much.
Anonymous No.281375783
>>281365751 (OP)
Let's say this group fights the Demon Seed instead, keeping the final fight as The Young Masters vs The Demolitions, who would fight who?
Anonymous No.281376292
>>281374174
guy had to be a second for first time in a fucking final he did the best he could
Anonymous No.281376429
At their core, the olympics just fail to please anyone: if you liked Warsman in the original run you're not going to be satisfied because his behavior with Kevin is contrary to basically everything his character went through and it's never explained why HE would be the one so violently concerned with the legacy of Robin's family. If you're in this camp, later appearances just make it worse rather than fix it, because Warsman comes across as frankly obsessed with the Robin family instead of having a genuine, heartfelt bond guiding his actions. You can't go "ah, he cares so much he's kept watch all this time" about a guy pushing Kevin to literal murder, Kevin becoming a better person is almost entirely incidental to him becoming a champion.

I'm in the minority that actually likes the whole thing on account of Kevin being my favorite character from Nisei and I'm willing to do mental gymnastics to justify why Kevin would look back fondly onto his time with Warsman instead of feeling betrayed at basically being gaslit for months (I think Chloe was exactly the type of coach Kevin needed), but again, we're told nothing. And then it goes on to have no emotional pay off because the manga ends with Warsman still unconscious/dead. If we're meant to think that Warsman's actions were all in service of Kevin's growth and the manga ends with Kevin having made friends and finally feeling like he's a true justice chojin, why don't we get to see him show it off to the man who we're told kickstarted that change??
Anonymous No.281376488 >>281384929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUhj5XeXEng
Anonymous No.281376960
I think they were trying for a Goku at the Budokai thing were he doesn't win in Dragon Ball, but it doesn't land right.
They way I would have done it if I had to have Kevin win would be a double KO, and the three judges, in a split decision, rule Kevin the winner. This way neither Mantaro or Kevin really feel like they won or lost, setting up a rematch.
Anonymous No.281377175 >>281377333 >>281377586
The thing is, like I said, Mantaro needs to lose because otherwise the lesson won't stick
Just look at how he mostly resets at the start of the Replacement, No Respect and Olympics arcs and compare to how it mostly sticks through the Demon Seed arc and specially when he begins mentoring Chaos in UTag
The problem is that Kevin and specially Warsman become psychos for that match so it's hard to buy Kevin's "I don't wanna be an asshole anymore" moment with the Belt
Still, beyond their attitudes I mostly enjoy the match and it has some really nice moments like the moments where Mantaro and Ruralman actually manage to work as Wrestler and Coach and No Respect's spirits(?) showing up to cheer on Mantaro
And I can excuse Warsman as what happens when nobody keeps in contact with him to make sure he doesn't backslide in his development
Anonymous No.281377333
>>281377175
I guess if it's any consolation Mantaro doesn't buy it either initially.
Anonymous No.281377586 >>281381101
>>281377175
>The problem is that Kevin and specially Warsman become psychos for that match so it's hard to buy Kevin's "I don't wanna be an asshole anymore" moment with the Belt
I think what needed to be done was for Kevin not to have actually murdered anyone prior to the match, so that the final vs Mantaro is Warsman pushing Kevin to his absolutely lowest to prove a point about Kevin not being that kind of man despite how much he pretended to be.
Anonymous No.281377760 >>281379483 >>281380665
So, the Revival explained Chloe, but will it explain whatever the fuck Warsman was thinking with the teddy bear thing?
Anonymous No.281379483
>>281377760
I don't think even he knows what he was thinking.
Anonymous No.281380665
>>281377760
Bears are cute and as we've learnt, cute is justice.
Anonymous No.281380960 >>281383221
>>281374174
If anything it's proof that not everyone can be someone's second. Mantaro ignored him for the first quarter of the fight that is true. But he decided to start trusting him after getting knocked out of the ring.

But after all of that, Ruralman looked like he didnt care 80% of the time and was just chilling. That actually made Mantaro somewhat paranoid about the whole thing, leading to him using his finisher at the wrong time.

Mantaro didn't list at various moments but Ruralman failed to communicate and act like he gave a shit in the fight which leads to Mantaro not taking his advice.
Anonymous No.281381101 >>281381236 >>281381796
>>281377586
It’s not that hard to envision really.
>Chloe tells Kevin to kill Mantaro by removing his mask
>Kevin hesitates, recognizing that he doesn’t want to kill and outright refusing
>Chloe demands to know why
>Kevin says that he’s having fun fighting Mantaro and if it all ended here, so would that fun from having such a good match.
>Kevin apologizes to Chloe for disobeying him but says it’s his decision.
>Chloe congratulates Kevin for recognizing the same lesson that he learned back then when he fought Suguru in the Olympics
>everyone gasps when they realize what that means, and Warsman reveals himself.
>Mantaro and Kevin break for a bit, but then resume their fight with renewed passion, so even if Kevin wins, Mantaro feels strangely happy that their match isn’t about their family lineage but about two individuals that want to bring out the best in each other.

You could even have Kevin sticking Mantaro in the OLAP and sweating so hard from the pressure of being told to kill his opponent that steam starts rising off of him to further the point. Augh, everything’s so close to being good.
Anonymous No.281381236 >>281381502 >>281388186
>>281381101
>You could even have Kevin sticking Mantaro in the OLAP and sweating so hard from the pressure of being told to kill his opponent that steam starts rising off of him to further the point. Augh, everything’s so close to being good.

That's what's so frustrating, the parts of a good story are there, just buried in bad writing and constant piss and shit jokes.
Anonymous No.281381502
>>281381236
Mantaro says he lost the Olympics but won a new friend as Kevin shakes his hand and he celebrates, but then deep down you see Mantaro cry as he’s torn apart by his own desire to win the belt and the guilt of even having that thought when he’s been told that friendship is greater than any individual achievement, and he wracks his brain over that in the Demon Seed arc, aughhhhh
Anonymous No.281381796
>>281381101
It would tie amazingly with all the moments where Kevin asks Chloe why he has so much faith in him and Chloe doesn't answer, too. He does it... 2, 3 times? The manga as is has it be "because you're your father's son" and desu that kind of sucks for both of them, this way Kevin could reflect on their time together and realize Warsman knows firsthand what it's like to think of one self as a tool for violence and raise above that - so the legacy Warsman is passing onto him from Robin isn't just the OLAP, it's his entire journey with Robin (and Suguru!) towards being being a justice choujin.
Anonymous No.281382197 >>281382421 >>281382472
I'm also bothered by Robin and Suguru watching this the whole time and just not doing anything.

From kevin and warsman's reasoning for going so hard, to Kevin trying to rip off Mantaro's mask so he has to kill himself. The two that could actually shed a lot of light on the past just don't do anything about a potential deathmatch between their sons at all.
Anonymous No.281382421
>>281382197
This could easily be fixed by giving one of "it's that chojin!" moments to them, out of all the dumb reasons for not intervening with the match I could buy them being aware that it's Warsman and them trusting that Warsman wouldn't actually get Kevin to kill Mantaro.
Anonymous No.281382472
>>281382197
Anime was them cheering for their respective son, so Robin was okay with Kevin killing Mantaro
Anonymous No.281383221
>>281380960
Ruralman was looking away to communicate "I already told you what to do, I'm not going to say it a second time, it's a waste of breath. Either you can listen properly the first time or you suffer". By looking away he was actively communicating that it's not time yet, and showing that he call and collected in order to convey to Mantaro that it's not that he's not paying attention, he wants you to understand patience. If Mantaro had listened to his advice at the start of the match the fight would have been heavily in Mantaro's favor.

Every time Mantaro didn't listen properly he suffered for it. Ruralman isn't the type to coddle him, he'll let him suffer until he learns to listen properly the first time.
Anonymous No.281383602
Mantaro needed a babysitter and Kevin needed a second father figure, Meat and Warsman's success as their seconds had less to do with the coaching itself and more with getting them, respectively, to fight at all and to listen instead of being contrarian.

That's why Ruralman could get Mantaro to learn techniques Meat couldn't teach him, but he couldn't get him to be patient.
Anonymous No.281383832 >>281384001
I finally caught up.
I'm sorry, Mantaro taking a shit and the average Swedish guy almost filtered me.
I don't know why I chose to pick up reading Nisei after not having the time for the good stuff, but it really doesn't inspire confidence in reading them.
Anonymous No.281383974 >>281384441
Harabote and his family suddenly being fans of Mantaro was weird too considering the only reason the Olympics came back was so they could see him lose and possibly die.

Well that and the money. If anything they should have been glad and gloating that he lost. There was also Jackie suddenly hating how much of a bloodbath the match was despite craving it the whole time and even setting up the gimmick for the ricardo fight.


Honestly, I wonder how Nisei would have done if the internet was as big as it is now back then.
Anonymous No.281384001
>>281383832
First time reader here : I swear the other stuff is at least less whatever this is. I actually find it interesting to read it with the context of the whole series behind it, but even with everyone complaining about it during the OG and Revival storytimes it's absolutely brutal.
Anonymous No.281384441 >>281384978
>>281383974
Ikemen becomes surprisingly based by the time of UTag
Anonymous No.281384442
OLAP is a dumb name
Anonymous No.281384929 >>281385216
>>281376488
I love the bit where you see a silhouette of what is obviously Warsman and then it lights up to reveal Kevin.
Anonymous No.281384941 >>281385123
It honestly feels like the lantern challenge should have come AFTER the Olympics.
It makes more sense, especially since the 3 people he fought felt way stronger/threatening then the gimmick fighters of the Olympics outside Kevin and MAYBE ricardo but that fight was ruined with the sword'n'board gimmick so I can't take it seriously either.
It gives Mantaro a better reason to want to gain strength instead of the arbitrary "you take too much damage" that we get told (he takes a lot of damage in the olyimpics and nobody says a peep. His whole "you take too much damage" is just a forgotten plot point after the lantern arc)
Anonymous No.281384978 >>281385793 >>281386451 >>281387195
>>281384441
Him pretending to be Great to cover for Chaos not being there was great. I bet if Mantaro does get with Jacqueline, he'd let Ikemen be a groomsman. I'd say best man, but that's gotta be Wally.
Anonymous No.281385123 >>281386013 >>281386412 >>281387618
>>281384941
I said something like that last thread, it just makes sense.
>DMP Arc as normal
>Choujin Olympics arc, throw in the HF Replacement guys as the newcomers in the tournament. Kevin wins because Mantaro can't BIS as hard as Kevin can Maelstrom. Also let Mantaro's friends at least get a win against job fodder so they have SOMETHING
>BIS Challenge arc with an actual motivation for Mantaro this time around. He stops being a fuckwad after this arc like how Suguru did after the Warsman fight.
>throw some Devil Choujin arc here. Maybe not Demon Seed, since that arc's ending is a nice send off, but hell give us a canon Poison Six Pack arc, that was actually the highlight of the Nisei anime for me. All around good fights and gives Manta's friends a chance to not job.
>Choujin Olympics 2. Mantaro wins this time by breaking out of the Big Ben Edge with his BIS and converting it into the Muscle Spark
>Demon Seed. Mostly as is, but let both Mantaro and Kevin team up and shine in the final fight
Hope you enjoyed my fanfic.
Anonymous No.281385216
>>281384929
Not being able to rely on pure gore forced them to come up with some pretty interesting visuals.
Anonymous No.281385793
>>281384978
I knew he pretended to be Great III but I thought he'd be forced into it not be the one to come up with the idea
Anonymous No.281386013
>>281385123
If we're talking fanfics, mine would be throwing both the Poison Six Pack arc and adding extended versions of All-Out fights
During Kevin vs Doomman, he talks about how he promised to meet Mantaro in the final for a rematch and then throw a bunch of callbacks to the Olympics final
Ending with Kevin, about to pass out, going
>I'm sorry, Mantaro, it seems I won't be able to keep my promise...
Anonymous No.281386158
>>281371273
>>281371349
this.
Anonymous No.281386385
I know we have the advantage of a couple of decades of hindsight, but damn if reading everyone's ideas doesn't make me annoyed. Making Nisei in the spirit of the original wouldn't even take changing THAT much.
Anonymous No.281386412 >>281386481 >>281388003
>>281385123
The Muscle Spark could also make for some family drama, maybe Mantaro wants to learn it as a super cool technique to beat Kevin Mask but Suguru rejects it, since it was a technique shaped by his friendship and Ataru’s selflessness for the sake of the clan’s future, making it inappropriate to be used for personal glory. You could even bring back the mural punishing him for misinterpreting the Muscle Spark, forcing him to either use it subconsciously during a time of crisis where he has to defeat an opponent without any malice in his heart, or carving his own path and learning a new technique he can call his own, aside from the Muscle Millennium.
Anonymous No.281386451 >>281386516
>>281384978
Anonymous No.281386481 >>281386532
>>281386412
>learning a new technique he can call his own, aside from the Muscle Millennium.
Well, he has one more, which we'll see in this arc
Anonymous No.281386516 >>281386558
>>281386451
Was ikemen this buff?
Anonymous No.281386532
>>281386481
shhhhhhhhhhh that’s what i was hinting at
Anonymous No.281386558
>>281386516
No
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>>281387164
Anonymous No.281387195
>>281384978
he should be considered the 4th Great or at least the 3.5
Anonymous No.281387618
>>281385123
>Also let Mantaro's friends at least get a win against job fodder so they have SOMETHING
Oh right, I wanted to bitch about this. Nothing meaningful really happened in Ricardo's first match except the crack in his mask. Move that to the prelims as an accidental hit by someone or whatever and give his first match to Jade.
Anonymous No.281388003 >>281388173
>>281386412
>maybe Mantaro wants to learn it as a super cool technique to beat Kevin Mask but Suguru rejects it, since it was a technique shaped by his friendship and Ataru’s selflessness for the sake of the clan’s future
Give him that motivation in the BIS Challenge arc, and have him fail to use the move. Then, when he has his rematch with Kevin and truly respects his opponent as an equal competitor, he gets to finally use it.
Anonymous No.281388173 >>281388313
>>281388003
You could even have Suguru lecture Mantaro with the three tenants of the Kinniku Clan, using your power to fight for others, always seeking the path of thorns, and never letting friendship die. Those could be the lessons in the lantern challenge too, and Suguru says that he can’t teach the Muscle Spark because it’s something to be discovered as an individual.
Anonymous No.281388186
>>281381236
God imagine giving Kinnikuman one more shot after Nisei and getting hit with Perfect Origin
Anonymous No.281388313
>>281388173
Hell even if Mantaro doesn't get the Muscle Spark in the OG series, UTag was a perfect time for Mantaro to get it while fighting Suguru.
Anonymous No.281390550
>>281371418
kek