Thread 281372381

『Stone Cannon』!

Drills are so cool man

I was hoping for a tensei thread and here it is.

Someone post that bit from the LN about rogueish types always having spices on them. It was sometime during the snow town arc.

Reminder that a fucking treant TANKED this better than Orsted

>>281372716
Treants are no joke in this setting.

>>281372716
They also tanked it better than Badigadi.

>>281372381 (OP)
Rudy's application of science to magic is one of my favorites in isekai

>>281372878
Badigadi is all about being immortal though.
What's the point of punching through an immortal bloodline demonoid if you have no away to defeat them?
Badigadi in particular survived even Laplace exploding, there's literally no way to defeat him other than with dragon techniques(killing) or barrier magic(sealing)

>>281373230
To add its funny how some anime onlies really think Rudy defeated him or something with that little encounter which amounted to some fun and games(for an immortal)

>>281373230
>Badigadi is all about being immortal though.
Yeah, but he also has like the 2nd strongest battle aura in the series.

>>281372381 (OP)
Why didn't he just take two steps to the side?

>>281373378
He can take on an army of scrubs by himself, he doesn't get tired after all which is pretty impressive but anyone king and above and can damage him normally.
His immortal bloodline is his biggest weapon, not to mention later we see that the immortals can even manipulate their skin like a separate organism almost like an AI being in charge like how Atofe's gift turned into a friggin cocoon protected Rudy falling into the valley and then proceeded to parasitize his cut off limbs basically becoming new limbs AND still retaining autonomy to an extent, its not like Atofe was directly controlling her skin at the time.
They have some pretty ridiculous abilities when you look back at the story which doesn't fall in either magic or martial category more like eldritch abomination category same as VITA

On a reread via audio books of the official seven seas LN translations
Finally on vol 25 and just finished Eris's fight with the former Sword God, Gal Fallion
1. This is something that bothered me constantly when I was going through the WN MTL for the first time, but isn't it frustrating that none of the protaganists seem to be able to win on their own? I get that true strength doesn't come from you alone, and it also comes from those who you surround yourself with, is one of the themes of MT. But I find it ever frustrating that no one seems to be able to win a major fight without the help of someone else in the moment. Ie in this chapters case, Ruijerd being the one to stop Gals blade from chopping Eris's head off
2. North God Kalman the 3rd? More like Kalman the Chuuni.
Please listen to Cliff Kurk (the Audio Book narrator)'s voice for Alexander Ryback, its absolutely hilarious and exactly what you'd expect for someone who talks the way he does in the books

>>281373276
>>281373230
same Audio book anon who just finished vol 24, he even claims he won the schoolyard fight in the epilogue chapter

>>281374721
I mean, they’re literally fighting immortal, god-tier beings, so I’d say it’s normal they can’t win on their own—apart from Gal, of course. And yes Alek is based

>>281374721
There is absolutely no way either Eris or Ruijerd would be able to beat Gal Falion 1vs1.
And that’s a massively nerfed Gal Falion too a broken man who pussied out and instead of using a sword god technique a good old fashioned staple longsword of light which would’ve immediately finished the fight without Ruijerd being able to do a thing went for a water god technique because he got ptsd flashbacks of Jino wooping his ass.
Even in this nerfed mentally cucked state he would’ve killed Eris without a problem the gap between their experience+talent is huge.
In fact I like that aspect of the series and think it makes fights more realistic in the story context.
It’s funny how Gal Falion is cucked and cautious meanwhile Alek is absolutely batshit insane and full of himself like mentally they’re nerfed in 2 ways which are opposite extremes, no wonder they couldn’t follow Geese’s instructions and fucked everything up.
Still I think Gal fucked up more because of his recent PTSD cowardice he didn’t even go for the head during the bridge ambush.

>>281374974
>>281375098
I brought up that example because it was fresh and I was listening to that chapter on my way to work today
But its a very consistent trend with not just God tier warriors.
>Advanced level swordsman during Eris kidnapping scheme
Thrown sword blocked by Ghislaine.
>North Saint in the Great Forest
Saved by both the Sacred beast and Gisu.
>North Emperor Auber
Only ran distraction for Ghislaine and Eris(?[I cant remember exactly if she was there]) to finish the job

Plenty of other examples that aren't sticking out to me. Point is it doesn't matter what level of warrior or beast he's fighting, anytime him or anyone else is up against a similar leveled warrior or mage, and I mean a genuinely similarly skilled opponent, not one that he is either greatly overestimating and simultaneously underestimating himself, Rudy can never just win of his own accord and I remember being really fucking mad when he got the 7 great powers spot since so much of the effort was from his team to get him there.

I do ultimately like the theme of strength coming from those you can rely on just as much as your own, but I just want one meaningful fight with important stakes that Rudy wins of his own accord, and not some cheap trick or distraction that is the ultimate undoing of his opponent.
>No patrick, S rank dragon hunting parties and mock schoolyard fights dont count as important stakes to alter the plot

>>281375223
He destroyed the Millis Temple Knights,

>>281375223
Hey like the other anon said he beat the temple knight scrubs!
Also he did fight a severely wounded and half dead alek 1v1 that’s pretty impressive too! But no really that’s pretty impressive Alek is no joke despite his personality.

>>281375267
I suppose, but I'm pretty sure while in his head he was having a hard time with them they were absolutely completely beaten aback by their own admission and never stood a chance in the end. Which kinda puts them in the overestimated abilities category for me.
>>281375299
Very true thread sis.

>>281372381 (OP)
Season 3 is going to absolute garbage. Want proof? They released the trailer like 2 days after in response of the chink animation about Turning Point 4 and then tookthe animation down with a strike.
Yes, they were scared. Qkawa himself animated Orsted chasing Rudeus in that.

>>281375342
Yes, Im a ESL nigger

>>281375342
>strike
Doesn't matter, somebody out there will always upload it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WktDQk2_HEY&t

>>281375342
>Yes, they were scared
Sometimes fear is good and acts as a motivator, although I don't know if motivation will be enough if the budget isn't there.

>>281375223
All of those people were better and more experienced when they fought Rudeus.
>Thrown sword block by Ghislaine
I don't think this should even count, it was literally his first fight ever that could lead to death.
>North Saint in the Great Forest
Swordautist are all busted in this verse and Gallus Cleaner was a higher rank than Paul. Outside of nuking what did you expect Rudeus to do by himself?
>North Emperor Auber
Even Greater gap than the North Saint, Auber was able to cut through Eris' LSoL, something that Rudeus wasn't even able to see in his mock fight with Eris. He's also only one tier below the highest rank of his Sword School... Rudy beating any of those would feel like wank. Now if he had the MK1 in the Auber fight he'd definitely win by himself.
>anytime him or anyone else is up against a similar leveled warrior or mage, and I mean a genuinely similarly skilled opponent
Any examples of these similarly skilled opponents? I mean he did shred Atofe alone with the MK1 and Atofe is stronger than Eris.

>>281375223
That's ultimately a good thing, though.
Too many other reincarnation isekai have the protagonists all be superhumans who can fight good at close combat and are magic gods at the same time by the age of 7 or so.
Rudeus however is firmly a full mage, not some superior hybrid swordsman-mage, and as such will have trouble getting by if swordsmen are close enough to engage him in their preferred fighting range.

>>281375430
As everyone should but this is delisted from search

>>281375430
That's not the entire thing, it's only the battle part.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11IrYSQfQdE

Please listen to Nanahoshis song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9u7oQ7aaV0

>>281375491
>Any examples of these similarly skilled opponents?
Nothing immediately comes to mind but its just one of those feelings I've gotten since going through the series twice now in general.
I am now remembering though his encounter with the Death God and only really being pysched out from finishing the job, despite Rudy bringing even him close to death's door by the fights end is probably the closest feeling I've been talking about wanting.
Same with pushing even Orsted to his limits and inflicting way more damage than he might have thought possible had he known the gap in their full abilities.
>>281375497
Never been claiming otherwise as a bad thing and in the end I agree. It's just a general frustration that develops over time seeing it happen over and over, despite each individual circumstance having its own details that make each encounter make sense as to why help was needed or why teamwork won in the end.

>>281375519
Thanks anon. It would be pretty funny but sad at the same time if they won't be able to animate the same segments in a better way.

>>281375342
>armor has fucking wires
Grim. Like the designer just didn't care enough to read the source material. The chink animation had glyphs and magic circles power the armor. Bind also forgot that Rudy has a prosthetic arm in the teaser. The chink animation didn't.

BTW Rabu is best, I love Rabu!
>>281375724
So you're saying you wish their was a character on par with someone in the main cast that they could defeat in a 1v1? I think that's fair to wish for if thats the case. Truthfully I think that's just the price of Rudeus' no-touki debuff.

>>281375820
Since when did Sylphiette practice the North God style?
>So you're saying you wish their was a character on par with someone in the main cast that they could defeat in a 1v1?
Pretty much. Specifically Rudy but I brought up Eris for the reason in my first post.

>>281375724
Well, in the Shirone arc, Rudeus did show the one thing in the one instance where mages are superior to swordfighters: blowing up an army. Oh, and of course countering the magic of the enemy army mage brigade.

>>281375752
Yeah, that's been a peeve of mine since I first saw the trailer, it's the Mecha artist they hired, I don't even know why they hired a Mecha artist for magic armour... Fucking suit looks like it has air conditioning, it looks like something you'd find in Fallout.

>>281375739
Get yourself some standards if you think that had good animation.

>>281375909
Not him but I think the God Sword segment had good animation, despite the wank I don't think the stone cannon Qkawa segment looked good at all.

>>281375883
Sure, and Rudy also does a ton of things and wins fights left and right when doing chores for the Orsted Corp
But both that and an army of /literalwho/ mages doesn't constitute what I was trying to grief about.
>>281375909
For me its the chink voice acting that kills it. I'd rather listen to thai or vietnamese than chink. I fucking hate their language so much.

One of the pet peeves that I rather have is the series's claiming that water god style users can deflect magic back to the caster, yet we never have seen such a thing happen in the entire story.

Does Orsted even know he's part Human God? He was a baby when spoiler related happened.

>>281375960
Counterpart to this is that it's somewhat endearing that Rudy has grown up hearing this all his life, and thus instinctively chooses to never try to use magic against high level water god practitioners for this reason
but overall an example from others would have been nice

>>281375985
He probably found out though his countless failed speedrun-attempts whenever he had to listen to ranting schizo demon god Laplace.
After all, that's how he found out that he has to kill all the dragon generals to get their dragon balls, I mean, dragon treasures, to open a path to the Man-Twerk.

>>281375960
That's amusing because Orsted even specifically trains Rudeus to cast wide spells so as to not get easily reflected back by a water autist and warns him about it. I think its been deeply ingrained into him at that point although other than Reida who Rudeus never directly faces we haven't seen much of water god practitioners. Yeah there's Isolde but she's on their side.

In fact I don't think Rudeus has ever even once in the story fought a high ranking water god user.
There might be a reason for that though.....he'd probably die easily.

>>281375940
The bullets all being drill-shaped is good detail.

>>281375985
He knows for sure and it only fuels his rage even further.

>>281376049
The dark future Rudeus did kill at least some water emperor according to the diary, but that's the guy who can fly, has a power armor, and lost all his friends and wives and family anyway.
And he probably just merked said water emperor in their sleep by dropping a boulder on their house.

>>281376129
>>281376036
>>281375985
Summary? Is this from the extra's?

>>281376152
Old Dragons Tale prequel. MTL at this point, will probably get properly adapted into an LN and get an official TL after Rifu finishes the redundancy series.

>>281376190
Is it on nyaa? Also besides redundancy I do recall a few other things being variations of prequels, with some being cannon and some sorta-not-100% cannon? Its been a while, but is there a list or infographic of them all?
I dont mind MTL either I started my read when the SS Vol 7 was translated and jumped into the WN 7 that just had a small paragraph saying rudy fucked around for 2 years before getting the letter to the magic school, so most of my read was MTL

>>281376152
It's volume 26.

Which kid are we betting will show up on the next redu volume cover? I'm going in with sieg

>>281372381 (OP)
i laugh at the fact that the MC of this show is supposed to be one of the strongest wizards ever and his most powerful spell is throwing a rock at you
this shit is so caveman and uncreative not even dragon ball would come up with something so bland and yet mushoku tensei is supposed to be the best isekai has to offer lmao
isekai is such a trash genre

>>281376240
https://ncode.syosetu.com/n3765dp/
You're better off just throwing it in Chatgpt unironically will give you better results than any half assed MTL

>>281376240
besides redundancy and old dragons tale there's jobless oblige which is a story from Sieg's POV but its basically part of redundancy.

Ah and you probably mean a story of how K2 obtained his gravity sword, although this was written before MT so there's lore inconsistencies which is why people don't recommend it much it was like one of the first stories rifujin wrote and it does show rust but I quite liked it, explains quite a few things about the north god family.
its called Subjugation of King Dragon King.

>>281376240
>>281376190
Popular Mushoku Tensei translator on twitter translated it and a bunch of side stories
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17H7zChwipoS7a2WiIdO2K2lWXwFzPUK1?usp=drive_link&pli=1
https://x.com/TheLuciusSeneca/status/1931112518698590321

>>281376129
>He knows for sure and it only fuels his rage even further.
I don't know, he only ever mentions his father when talking about revenge to Rudy.

>>281376252
Yeah, see this has no mention of him being Part Human-God at all, that's probably gonna be the reason the world isn't destroyed when he defeats Hitogami...though if that was something that could happen the Demon world would probably still exist seeing as Kishrika is also a demi-god

Also isn't Kishirika kinda pathetic compared to her Origin? She seems weaker than Demonic Dragon God Laplace, though I don't know how'd she compare to Demon God Laplace...

Moralfagging aside, it's genuinely impressive how the animators managed to capture Rudeus' old, perverted personality but filtered it through the lens of a young shota boy. That's some serious skill.

>>281376338
Lily needs a book focusing on her for sure.
Or better yet, Lily and Chris cuddling together for an entire book.

>>281376639
>that's probably gonna be the reason the world isn't destroyed when he defeats Hitogami...
I always thought that was a lie Hitogami used to deceive others into doing his dirty work/fighting against orsted just so he could continue to live?
>>281376554
>>281376543
>>281376399
Thank you anons.
Someone should make an infographic on all the extra stories and side content and general timelines...

>>281376639
Well, the Man-God said that at first, he saw Orsted kill him, and that would end the world.
But later on, he sends a vision to Rudeus that Orsted wants to turn him into hitonuggie, the quadruple-amputated loser who is stuck forever watching the void and being unable to do anything at all.
So Orsted and co. will probably try to not destroy the world, if possible.

>>281376723
>I always thought that was a lie Hitogami used to deceive others into doing his dirty work/fighting against orsted just so he could continue to live?
Big ODT spoiler
Nah, the Original Dragon God(Orsted's father) kills 3 God and there worlds begin to collapse right after, Though funnily enough Hitogami destroyed the Dragon World himself with a singular attack while Dragon God was still alive, so it can either be destroyed directly by a god or destroyed by the death of it's respective God. spoiler related

What's the Human God's problem?

>>281376752
>quadruple-amputated
I've seen someone else state this but I don't recall this ever being said, maybe I'm just misremembering. Though that would be hilarious.

>>281376639
>Yeah, see this has no mention of him being Part Human-God at all, that's probably gonna be the reason the world isn't destroyed when he defeats Hitogami.
You guys.... read ODT.
There is absolutely no way of preventing the world going poof if they really kill hitogami.
Hence the dream of sealing him.
Like the other were connected he’s connected to the six-sided world like a daedric prince from TES to his realm but in reverse basically killing him means dooming the human world

>>281376810
he doesn't want to become a fucknugget apparently

>>281376810
It's theorized that he was some void being more than likely divine in nature born from the corpse of the Creator God and Hijacked the Original Human God's(Orsted's grandfather btw) body, Killing Orsted's mother and indirectly but purposely causing the Ancient War of the Gods which resulted in all of the God but himself dying and all their worlds collapsing, all for the purpose of being the Only God

Orsted is the only drigger(Non-Reincarnated) to be birth from a vagina in all of history. It also took his mother 1000+ years to fully gestate him.

>>281376723
>I always thought that was a lie Hitogami used to deceive others
Ironically that part isn't a lie, to give you a rundown I'd have to explain the basic setting of the world they actually live in which doesn't get explained until ODT:


Once upon a time there was a creation god the being who created many worlds alongside the six-sided world.
This being ran out of juice and failed to create a singular normal world when working on MT's world. The resulting world was distorted and unbalanced so what did he do?
He created in total six such distorted planes/dimensions and glued them together to achieve balance and voila you now have the six-sided world.
However this world/or a cascade of worlds was still extremely unstable and since he was still going to die anyway he split himself up into 6 existences(which I'll just call lesser gods) and embedded each of them into these 6 planes so they could lead them to prosperity. Now nobody even remembers the creation god but that's how the story goes.
Anime also showcased murals of the 6 worlds though you probably wouldn't understand without proper explanation:
Heaven(winged tribe world)
Dragon(dragon tribes, dragon world)
Beast(Beast tribes, forest world)
Human(humans, human world)
Demon(demon tribes, miasma world)
Mermen(notAtlantiss, ocean world)

After certain events the 5 worlds were destroyed and only the human plane was left.
This plane sucked in the mana of all the other destroyed worlds and terraformed the place which is why you have places like the demon continent or heaven continent that don't make sense. Basically the human plane gained aspects of the other destroyed worlds but it didn't gain all the physics like for example the dragon world was an upside down world.

>>281375430
I really need to fine somewhere to download the original in full. I really didn't think a fan animation would get struck down like that.

>>281376928
The heaven world was a place with floating islands and so the physics and some things didn't get copied but the terraforming did make the human world gain some aspects of the other worlds hence why in many places the nature barely makes sense.

That's the basic setting of the six-sided world.


Killing the lesser gods immediately removes some kind of protection from the world and it starts crumbling.

>>281376958
I have the original but I forgot the download it with subs lul
https://files.catbox.moe/uruibd.mp4

>>281376928
Now that I think about it, those are probably gonna be the designs of the Chaos Breaker Murals.

>>281376988
why is Eris cut in half? I thought that happened years later in oldeus timeline, not right after sylphy death

>>281377048
because they just speed-ran the diary segments to fit it in 12 min, they also made the whole thing more dreamlike here

>>281376988
You're a saint-class poster, anon. Much appreciated. I was trying to show a friend this the other day and was really frustrated to find it'd been taken down.

>>281377028
>during Perugius's castle arc murals suddenly become alive and we get an ODT movie
Now where's that oil prince when you need one.

>>281377201
>saint-class poster
not him but I want to start categorizing posters now into the 7 ranks.
has MT threads ever seen a God-level shitposter before?
the anons who made the original ritual post/pasta's maybe? something that transcends time and bump limit, from thread to thread...truly has become God level.

>>281377291
>God-level shit poster
none
>Emperor level shitposter
ACK
Bait Thread anon
>King Level Shitposter
none
>Saint level shitposter
Sylphieschizo
>Advanced Shitposter
None
>Intermidiate Shitposter
None
>Beginner Shitposter
mud shit poopsei guy

>>281377504
what about jaeger bombs anon? or Sieg pasta anon
those are at least king tier

>>281377593
I don't consider them shit posters, those are kinoposters.
>God Level ritual posting
Who is Sieg?
>Emperor level ritual posting
Jaegerbombs for Julie
>King Tier ritual posting
none
>Saint level ritual posting
Peak Islamic Fiction
>Advanced ritual posting
Love S,E,R Simple as.
>Intermediate ritual posting
None
>beginner ritual posting
None

I know there are some I'm forgetting but since I can't just remember them off the top of my head they wouldn't be any higher than Saint.

Dead End. Home.

>>281377784
Ritual posting is inherently shitposting thoughbeit
Maybe its like the difference between water god, north god, and sword god styles of swordplay but at the end of the day those are all forms of swordsmanship

>>281376824
It's in the final dream that man-god sends Rudeus in volume 26.

>>281377875
Yeah, but I enjoy none of the posters in the shitposting list, I enjoy all of the posters in the Ritual posting list

>>281377897
Sylphie is the only one that gets to receive non-stop Nakadashis.

>>281377942
eris got the first creampie and the only one to smash shota rudeus

>>281377899
its ok, i enjoy none of the north style swordsman but i enjoy the dynamic between water and sword god styles
Honestly the bait/shitpost threads from anime onlies and malicious posters who would never admit they are just spoonfed assfaggots from twitter would be more like the bowfags or warrior fags who dont follow a God-style doctrine aka they SUCK

>>281377977
Roxy gets the most cunnlingus.

>>281377980
>i enjoy none of the north style swordsman but i enjoy the dynamic between water and sword god styles
Sure but the rankings doesn't just apply to swordniggers, you got God Tier Healers, God Tier Water Mages etc. Isn't Perugius a God-Tier summoner?

>>281378030
Sylphie wouldn't even go to die in Asura if this happened, she'd just stone bullet her self on the spot.

>>281378062
>his son woofdeus chasing after fox girls

>>281377997
Eris having big tits even at 13 is so fucking based

>>281378088
Somewhat a pity that we didn't get the
>sylphie imagines herself being the irrelevant neighbor of Rudeus and Nanahoshi
segment.

I think Rudy should've never gotten his arm back from Orsted's deus ex healing magic

>>281378145
is it really incest if its between beastfolk?

>>281378200
>>281378200
I mean, I also thought the prosthetic was cool as shit, but Orsted is literally God tier in all magic, it wouldn't make since for him not to have his only follower at the time at peak condition.

>>281375593
thanks anon. song is great

>>281378176
It's in her blood.

>>281378044
Yeah and things like the race gods exist (Ogre god for example) which implies there could be ogre emperors and ogre kings as far as rank goes
so those otherfags could be categorized as following the Bait God and then theres also Ritual God followers, among the Lore God posters and AnimeOnly God followers etc
And, may Moot forgive me, even those who follow the Manga God style, but those have been banished to other websites over the years

>>281378267
And now there is blood in my penis.

>>281378275
>like the race gods exist (Ogre god for example) which implies there could be ogre emperors and ogre kings as far as rank goes
Just brings on the question, why was Kishirika called the Demon Empress instead of Demon God?

>>281378342
More than likely despite Laplace being the Demon God only some 7000 years after Kishirika's debut, she wasn't ever powerful enough to claim the title

>>281378200
it's funny how much he loses his arms

>>281378030
Based and canon

>>281378342
>>281378382
Also it depends on the race/style/tradition of whatever is being ranked
Like how there can be more than one North God, but to become the Sword God you need to beat the current Sword God
Or win every fight after claiming the title if the Sword God dies by the hands of a non-challenger

>>281372381 (OP)
If it's just spinning without contact it wouldn't heat that much.

>>281378382
There's no way fully grown Kishirika wasn't the most powerful of the Demon Race. I wonder how she'd actually fair against Demon God Laplace. Since they've never actually met.

>>281372381 (OP)
kino moment

>>281378242
It just signaled that Rudy wouldn't suffer the consequences of his actions for more than a volume and just took away all the tension from any trouble he'd find himself in the future, for me at least

>>281378432
I mean the bottom part is touching the ground. Also depending on how fast it's actually spinning it definitely could heat that much. Isn't it stated that the speed of the Stone Cannons are similar to the Longsword of Light?

>>281378445
She did get clubbered by angry man Laplace (demon dragon) before the heroic golden knight aldebaran, I mean, Fighting God Badigadi, come to her rescue.
And then killed her himself. But she got better and suggested they become married in her next life.

>>281378445
She might have been the strongest at the time, but maybe thats not how the Demons have their rank structured. I always thought it was a clear hard limit for them where they cant claim the title, even in regards to a "vacuum" if there isn't a Demon God, for ex, if they aren't powerful enough to show they deserve it.
For that matter, I haven't seen or read anything ever explicitly shows Kishirika's power when she's fully grown and before Badi fucks everything up

>>281378525
That's just the consequence of having a demi-god looper as an ally of the MC on your character roster. I also think it just being a problem of a singular volume isn't really a big issue. The stakes were weekend the moment time travel was revealed, though it didn't take away from the story for me. Orsted isn't always there as well and if he fails this loop there's no more Rudeus and no more allies from thenceforth, the stakes stop being Rudeus' and becomes Orsted's instead.

>>281378578
>Laplace (demon dragon)
Specifically he as called the Demonic Dragon God at that time, just for clarities sake
>>281378529
Badi references his stone cannon to be at least emperor tier by the time he does the school fight with Rudeus, but I dont recall that comparison to the SoL

>>281378609
>>281378647
That just brings the question why the hell is Laplace so strong? Kishirika is a demigod and so was her brother and Laplace defeated them both. Did Demon God fuck a drigger and just abandoned her and her child or something?

>>281378639
To be fair, it's not like the protagonist himself keeps timetravelling all the time (his future version who did came without a stomach and died from it, after all).
And the dragon god time-looping is also a lose-lose condition for the protagonist, which has to be avoided at any cost.

>>281378720
Why the hell is anyone so strong? Aspects, training, natural talent, being related to a God...
I don't think it matters but I do still find it funny that Laplace is so strong that even his half assed self still ranked twice on the list

>>281378779
Meh, technique dork Laplace is obviously cheating and lying.
I mean, he claims to be better than the guy in his magic armor who killed him when he was still undivided and at full power.

>>281378779
>Why the hell is anyone so strong?
Sure but that applies to Laplace doubly. I mean his uncontrolled power literally obliterated 75% of a super continent. His touki alone obliterated a mountain and knocked out an immortal demon demi-god.

>>281378639
True
I think my main gripe is that it sort of feels like it cheapens Paul's death by making the one big physical reminder marking Rudy's body just disappear

>>281378779
>Laplace is so strong that even his half assed self still ranked twice on the list
I mean he also created the FGA so technically you can say he ranks three times.

>>281378951
Eh thats a cop out to say thrice ranked in my opinion, since the Fighting God armor as far as the ranking goes was piloted by Badi

>>281378951
also the FGA in this art reminds me of Chrome Disaster from AW

>>281378971
The Fighting God Armour was autonomous when it defeated Laplace, Badigadi was unconscious.

>>281378971
The Fighting God Armour was autonomous when it defeated Laplace, Badigadi was unconscious.
Conscious Fighting God Armour Badi was getting absolutely destroyed by Laplace.

>>281378639
>30-something year old neet somehow figures out time travel.
I love this series but sometimes it just breaks my suspension of disbelief.

>>281373505
>losing aura by dodging instead of tanking

>>281376345
He's literally hurling stuff with the KE of light artillery at people

>>281379453
Don't be ridiculous.
It was a 60 year old adventurer-archaeologist who died in pain afterwards.

>>281379574
There had to have been some other way to reveal Hitogami's betrayal.

>>281379828
When you break down the core ideology behind the stunted ways of understanding magic and mana, its not really that far fetched
the human world has a very bad case of "well its always been done this way so thats just the way it is" when it comes to mana and how to fully unlock it

>>281377504
Forgot bump slut and the newest (assuming he just isn't the same guy as one of these), the cheat slayer fag.

>>281380080
I mean originally humans didn't even have mana.

>>281380085
>the cheat slayer fag.
oh that's definitely one I forgot. Definitely a King Level Shitposter.

>>281378030
>>281378410
Cough Cough.

>>281380860
its a shame the abyssal demon king vida never game him a banana wife

>>281378030
Must repopulate Yamato

Water God style is the coolest sword school.
change my mind.

>>281378030
Rudy could've rawdogged this 10/10 to his heart's content but choose to marry that 6/10 instead

What the consensus regarding how the whole "six sided world" works? Is it dimensions overlapping or round planets, or is it literally like, flat planes shaped like a cube planet?

>>281381870
North God Style is the coolest, Sword God Style is the lamest, Water God style is slightly above Sword God.

>>281381936
It has to be a cube right? Or else they wouldn't have to be "stuck" together. It also would explain why the dragon world was upside down... would it?

>we'll never see this side chapter
why even live

>>281382034
water god
>5 sacred water god techniques
>have to know at least 2 of them to be eligible to become water god
north god
>literally untold number of techniques
>as long as it works and helps you win, fuck it man go for it
sword god
>um um um we have the s-sword of l-light that you master when you become a sword saint
>everything else above sword saint is just big dick energy and who is a millimeter faster
>

>>281372900
I also like how he can't use healing magic because he has no idea how it could work.

>>281382085
>Dragons were Australians this whole time
Maybe the Man God was the good guy all along

>>281382280
>rudy cant use healing magic
no.
just...no.

>>281382280
He just can't silent cast it

>>281382280
He definitely can use healing magic, just not as good as Sylphie nor can he do it without incantation like Sylphie.

who's got the north god mental gymnastics image on hand? i tried about 10 different search strings in filename and text in archive and couldn't find it

>>281382374
It would be cool if he eventually learned how after studying it some more. I feel like that would solve his Touki problem better than a mecha.

>>281382514
>I feel like that would solve his Touki problem better than a mecha.
I 100% doubt that, you cant heal your head being cut off faster than the speed of sound. No amount of healing magic would help him overcome his Touki debuff against anyone Saint Tier and above more than his Armours.

>>281382449
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/image/5u2URR2hf5uJfo3cOb0yvw/
disregard i found it again

gitwm

long toenails are cute

Eris' pussy probably grips like crazy

>>281382814
they would be easy to break if you're running around at the speed of sound

>Causes the destruction of 5 worlds in your path
Hitocutie did nothing wrong, someone needed to stop this retarded Drigger from ending all of existence over some dead Scale Polisher.

>>281382878
But is she weak to anal? Or a better question...is rudeus?

Mushoku Tensei's lore could be summarized as a "Tragic Love Story".

>>281382941
Rudeus gets pegged on the regular

>>281382999
>only image when searching eris and strap-on is her getting pegged by roxy
disappointing.

>>281382696
>body immediately reattaches itself and heals before the blade is even done cutting through

>>281383077
Rudy couldn't even process Paul's movements, there's no way his brain will process attempting healing magic before his head is already 20ft away from his body, not only that I'm quite sure he still needs hands to heal any sword saint or higher can easily deal with that problem.

>>281383072
I'd sniff and lick both ends of that strap-on after they were done...

>>281383165
Rudeus' speed is pretty inconsistent, he dodged Paul's longsword of silence back when he was 12, and while Paul was drunk, he did say he was actually trying, and Rudeus wasn't trying at all until he got surprised by Paul's speed (he still dodged it though)

>>281383237
Then Paul must've actually gotten stronger during the Hydra fight because he completely disappeared from Rudy's eye of foresight(They even show it in the anime).

>>281375863
She was almost 40 and never had a boyfriend, you would be relieved that your neet no friends daughter is finally getting the fuck out.

>>281375863
Imagine if she actually cucked Banana and Nanahoshi went full blown villain...
It's obvious the isekaijinn boyfriend will be the only kid that didn't didn't get summoned during truck-kun but as an Adult.

>>281383279
There's also the fight with Linia and Pursena. Linia is so fast she completely vanishes from the screen, like she teleported, then Rudeus just says "You're really slow, I can see you clearly". In the anime this is even more exaggerated since Rudeus' POV is straight up Linia being seen in slow motion by speedster Rudeus. It's possible Paul got faster though, doesn't Rudeus say he got stronger? Maybe he was rusty or he actually did improve since he had the motivation to do so.

>>281383412
>doesn't Rudeus say he got stronger
Yeah, but Paul says he's gotten weaker, but he was probably just being fake humble to show off in front of his son.

>>281383479
Dammit Paul why'd you have to go and get yourself killed.

>>281383805
what could have been...

>>281372381 (OP)
Rudius is literally me. Damn of I could only have a cheat skill of my own

>>281380080
In addition to what >>281380370 said, also remember that humanity almost got wiped out by Laplace.
Who also is responsible for destroying the continent and creating the ringus sea.
Who also participated in genocide during the god wars.
Who also got played like a chump by the Man-God.
Who also is now twice as annoying.
Who also is contaminating the soul of humans and other beings.

Laplace genuinely sucks.

>>281383401
Kuroki for the win.

>>281381936
Six parallel worlds/dimensions that are connected to each other.

>>281381870
Reida vs Orsted is going to be awesome
One of the highest points in that boring arc

>>281384366
The build up and ENTER moment from Reida will be better than the actual fight.
The tension as Reida holds everyones life in her hand until Orsted ENTERs himself. He is literally just going to walk up calmly and downsmash while deflecting every strike effortlessly

>>281384366
Lots of cool moments in the season and fights for the hype fags that hate slice of life that Bind will completely butcher because they don't give a fuck and didn't bother to upgrade the staff

>>281383991
Can't forget about all the magic that probably got wiped from the records by the Millis Church like Necromancy.

>>281384366
I didn't find Vol 17 boring, but Vol 19 was way better imo.

Cannot wait for the next season. Anime onlies only got the intro to the series. Now it's really starting.

>>281384366
there is also Ariel's piss scene

>>281384698
My wife is so cute

>>281384741
It's 100% getting cut, her debauchery as a whole was toned down to near non-existence.

>>281384698
Family kino is my favorite part of MT. How many series have the protagonist have children mid series so we get to see them grow? Only Dragon Ball I can think of right away.

>>281384759
They'll definitely keep the
>pissing in ecstatic fear
thing.

>>281384821
Agreed! Look at this cute and fat baby! We get to seem them grow up!

>>281384821
>Family kino is my favorite part of MT.
Yeah, Vol 13 is in my top 3 volumes for SoL kino alone. It's the slice of life moments that make the action and drama filled moments so much more special.

>>281384880
>Dudi (el forma de elfo mujer)

>>281384644
Plus the Man-God's machination to ensure that Orsted won't gain their abilities, like for example the nukadian style hypnosis magic.

>>281372381 (OP)
>>281375430
>>281376988
If Rudeus had developed an hydrogen bomb or equivalent, could it have taken out Ornenstein?

>>281385311
>nukadian style hypnosis magic
Didn't he already have this magic anyways? He used it on Zanoba, right?

>>281385476
Sure. But if they had remained, he might have learned a better version, and then use it to mindcontrol everyone into not being afraid of him.
Reason enough to ensure that this tribe must die.

>>281385503
>Reason enough to ensure that this tribe must die.
Isn't it Geese that causes his tribe to die? and if so how fucking old is Geese that he can outpace Orsted's trek to learning his tribes secrets?

>>281385534
Using Geese to frighten a demon king into wiping out his entire tribe is how the Man-God got rid of them all. And of course, Geese didn't know that the Man-God would betray him.

>>281385574
>Using Geese to frighten a demon king into wiping out his entire tribe is how the Man-God got rid of them all
Yeah, but when exact did this happen? Is Geese 200+ years old?

>>281374721
Are audiobooks for LNs any good?

Sword God Style
>All about the skill, the techniques. To cut down your enemy with beautiful swordsmanship
Water God Style
>All about parries and counters. Masters of defense.
North God """""""""""""""Style"""""""""""""
>LMAO JUST THROW SOME SAND ON THEIR EYES AND KICK THEIR BALLS MATE LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>281385658
Yeah, they're pretty good, though they do drop in quality in the later volumes but not too much that you wouldn't be able to bare listening to them, they go from in my opinion a 8.5/10 to a 7-7.5/10, I haven't listened to the Redundancy ones yet.

>>281374721
>>281374759
Where can I pirate those

>>281385601
Geese is old.
However, Orsted cold and probably did learn some form of nukadian hypnosis magic in a prior loop.

>>281385685
>North God """""""""""""""Style"""""""""""""
name one technique.
>throwing sand in someone's eyes
not a technique
>walking on all fours like a dog
not a technique
>dual wielding
not a technique btw
>fire spitting
not a technique
>glueing pieces of mirror on your armor
not a technique
>ninja faggotry
not a technique
>holding someone hostage
not a technique

North God "Style" fags played us for absolute fools.

>>281385685
>>281385852
I'm probably remembering incorrectly but wasn't Alek pissed at his dad for teaching North God style all wrong?

>>281382280
some anon said he can't silent cast Healing magic because he does not have normal empathy. he's so guarded and insular that he doesn't understand it on the deep level he does other forms of magic; healing magic requires empathy.
is this accurate? i thought it was cool.

>>281386035
He knows how other forms of magic works from a basic science point of view. Make fireball, more energy more fireball etc. Magical instant healing isn't covered by science.

>>281386035
He can't because he doesn't get how healing magic works scientifically. Rather than just turning his brain off for it. Elemental Magics make sense to him.

>>281384880
cute baby

>>281386119
>>281386156
i'm an animeonly, his understanding of magic does not seem "scientific" at all. he reads the books, but then he learns accidentally to silent cast, and it's portrayed as a deeply intrinsic thing, like he can feel the power welling up throw his body and learns to channel it that way. that's just my interpretation.
science implies verifiable experimentation: forming a hypothesis, testing it, discarding what doesn't work, further investigating what does work, and putting this all into a paper that can be read by others and understood. when he's teaching people to silent cast, he's not giving a lecture; he's having them look concentrate inward and "feel" the mana inside them.
that's just what i got from the show, perhaps it's inaccurate, but it's not "scientific" it's more mystical. it seems like chanting to cast magic is the more scientific way.

>>281386302
I don't know what you want bud. That's just how it is.

>>281386302
Here's the healing part.

>>281386370
i want to solve this congruity between anons saying "it's scientific!" when it's not scientific at all. that why i explained what i saw.
also Zanoba unexpected best dude.

>>281386471
writers typically aren't rigorous logical thinkers so i'll forgive Rifujin for this contradictory thinking.
feeling =/= knowing, unless Rudy is studying how mana moves around in others it seems unlikely he knows what the "underlying principles" are. is this before or after he starts working with Zanoba and Cliff on magical applications? that's more in the scientific mold than his self-discovery of silent casting.

>>281386486
Well, what the other anons mean to say is that Rudeus applies what scientific discovery were made in his old world into the magic system of his new world.
So, stuff like water being made of molecules consisting of hydrogen and oxygen atoms.
And at least, that's what Rudeus thinks is the reason why he has such a knack with all sorts of magic. He does not necessarily have to be right.

>>281386568
One thing that isn't really mentioned that often in the story is the fact that Rudeus clearly has some form of mana sense. He literally goes on in the first volume on how he can feel the mana around him and even distinguish different molecules in the air due to it. Maybe that has to something to do with it after all

>>281386785
You definitely can sense mana circulating inside your own body, which is how Rudeus taught Sylphie and Julie to do chantles spellcasting.

>>281386785
yeah this makes more sense. if he can actually observe mana, then he could be performing part of the scientific process, namely observation of phenomena. and i guess he could be testing it as well with silent casting.
there's a short scene in the anime after Orsted has pushed his shit in, where's he on horseback, practicing the nullifying magic Orsted used on him, casting in one hand and nullifying in the other. Rudeus is an amazingly quick study, which further implies he has an understanding of mana that others simply do not.

>>281386992
Uuuhhh... Eris... What are you going to do with that child Rudeus? Why are you licking your lips...?

it all makes sense now...

>>281376345
>one of the strongest wizards ever and his most powerful spell is throwing a rock at you
He machine guns em at you*
Imagine if Harry Potter has a gatling instead of a lame wand

>>281387275
Not fat enough

>>281387275
See, it was written here in the contract all along that I will help you and you help me. It just so happens that you helping me needs your whole family to die.

>>281372381 (OP)
god zoomertard animation is so fucking dogshit

>>281387503
Holy shit, scoop your eyes with spatula

>>281376345
>his most powerful spell is throwing a rock at you
His most powerful spell is [Nuclear Explosion], anyways why would he go away from what works 99.9% of the time, there's like 4 people in the entire series that can tank a Stone Cannon, and there's no spell that Rudeus could throw at them that they couldn't tank at that point.

>>281385709
Are they on nyaa?

>>281387503
I'll bite, what does this even mean in this context? What's so "zoomer" about this scene? it doesn't even have impact frames or giant cubes...

>>281387580
Yes. That's where I got them from.

>>281387527
>His most powerful spell is [Nuclear Explosion]
I hope they do it justice in the anime. We never really learn about the aftermath of the fight, a fight that manages to damage Orsted so much. Orsted just says Rudeus "erased half of a forest from the face of the continent". Hopefully the anime shows some crazy destruction.

It also bothers me a bit that the fight in the light novel is so short. I guess it makes sense due to Orsted's personality of trying to end fights early, but for some reason, it kind of makes Orsted look weaker than he supposedly is. The anime has the opportunity to have Orsted and Rudeus do more so the end result of Orsted being so damaged and losing so much mana makes more sense. It wont, most likely, but it is what it is.

>>281385908
Darius' property

>>281387616
Thanks anon
https://nyaa.si/view/1886465
should be this one right

>>281387661
The extreme mana loss came from him summoning the God Blade. I don't really see what makes him "look weaker than he actually is", but I suppose you're talking about the fact that he was so scratched up, no? Because truth be told that and Paul's sword were the only things that "damaged" him, and the stone cannons were shown to "damage" him as early as TP2.

>>281387697
That's should be fine.

>>281387693
[Spoiler]Dude ordered the kidnapping of Eris when she was 8 to fuck her, all Asuran nobles are described as degenerates, including princess perfect and Luke[/Spoiler]

>this is what young Reida looked like
What the fuck. Also, isn't black hair really rare in MT?

>>281387661
>I hope they do it justice in the anime
I have no hope whatsoever for the anime. It will probably be cancelled before that.

>>281387861
>isn't black hair really rare in MT?
I mean the only people we see with black hair from that world is Reida, Alek and Sandor. So yes.

>>281387661
He's fighting an agent of the Man God that successfully managed to ambush and pummel him with several high level spells back to back and then he finds out the guy is one of the anomalies in the current timeline changing everything. Ending the fight asap should absolutely be expected.

>>281387763
>Because truth be told that and Paul's sword were the only things that "damaged" him, and the stone cannons were shown to "damage" him as early as TP2.
>"He was naked from the waist up, and bleeding from a hundred wounds. Blood trickled from his head as well, and he looked generally lethargic. His hair was charred at the ends, and there was a large bruise near his shoulder. He’d taken significant damage."
He was definitely wounded. To be fair, he healed everything in an instant, but doesn't change the fact that everything that Rudeus did, actually did significantly damage him.
>The extreme mana loss came from him summoning the God Blade
He also says he used a lot of it because he had to tank so many big spells from Rudeus. But fair, I guess the God Blade is crazy, but I still wanted the fight to go for longer, and for Orsted to do more, to justify further his state after the fight. Orsted is the guy who is supposed to beat Hitogami, who we know how strong he is supposed to based on the events in ODT, so I wanted the fight to be longer and more intense because of it.

>>281387661
the environment from this part in the PV seems pretty fucked already, kino will be served

>>281387989
>Orsted is the guy who is supposed to beat Hitogami, who we know how strong he is supposed to based on the events in ODT, so I wanted the fight to be longer and more intense because of it.
If anything based on ODT the fight should've been magnitudes shorter. Rudy isn't touching any of the warriors of old no matter how big his mana pool is. Laplace flexed his touki and knocked out a demigod with just the pressure all while blowing the mountain they were in to smithers. Rudy with a nuke managed to clear part of a forest.

>>281388035
Is this achievable anons

>>281388035
>God Blade is just a regular katana
So fucking lame.

>>281388088
You should know by now that the simpler the weapon looks like, the deadlier it is. It's the anime trope for minimalists

>>281388052
That's my point though. The hierarchy here is supposed to be
>Dragon God > other gods > Hitogami >= Orsted > Laplace (Dragon God variant) > The generals > Laplace (general version)
So if Rudeus destroys parts of a forest = Orsted completely fucked, while Orsted's daddy, who was completely damaged himself from fighting the other gods, was tanking gigantic mountain erasing laser beams, it makes things look iffy.

>the love interest with the most amount of screen time and its not even close
>somehow becomes the third wife only
I'm not complaining, but Eris has the most screen time and interactions with Rudeus its not even close. Roxy and definitely Sylphie were sidelined for the most part.

>>281388084
Ask /fit/
>>281388088
>>God Blade is just a regular katana
>So fucking lame.
Yeah, the chinese fan animation did it more justice by making it glow golden.

>>281388177
>Orsted completely fucked
The nuke didn't damage Orsted though, all of the damage shown was from the Blade and Stone Cannons alone, also all the damage Orsted did receive was purely cosmetic. If anything it's the God Blade alone that puts him in the realm of the Gods. I mean without his pattern recognition via looping so much he'd get one shot by any of the sword style gods at least without the God Blade.

>>281388433
lets not forget that the God Blade was originally made for his father but the Blade wasn't strong enough to be wielded by him, so really the Demi-Gods are at best Dragon General/Demon King tier with Orsted being the strong exception since his mother was already a demi-god making him 3/4ths god.

>>281388088
I love that the blade itself is just white in the LN illustrations. Like its form is made of purely condensed power that doesn't belong in this world

>>281388433
>The nuke didn't damage Orsted though
It did. Rudeus says Orsted had a burn on his neck. I'm guessing the bruise mentioned and the blood from his forehead in my post is from the massive meteor Rudeus creates. The hundreds of wounds are the gatling gun most likely. Rudeus hits him only once with Paul's blade.
>also all the damage Orsted did receive was purely cosmetic.
I mean, he did heal himself, but the damage was real. I guess you could say Rudeus didn't do any crippling damage to Orsted, that's fair, I guess, though we are told he looked "lethargic" which implies that there was significant damage.

I just want all of this to be justifiable within the confines of what we know about how powerful Orsted is supposed to be. Make the fight longer in the anime, Orsted does more, maybe uses more spells before the Godblade. So later on when he says he used so much mana it makes more sense, instead of it being one spell he used, the godblade and there goes a considerable amount of Orsted's mana gone.

>>281387186
kek is he actually going to feel up his daughter
that's hot

>>281372381 (OP)
i still don't understand why Orsted was so incurious about Rudy. here is a guy he has never seen, who's not afraid of him, who can silent cast, who has insane mana, and he's just like "i need to crush this now".
i get he's very focused on his mission to kill the man-god but you'd think about so many cycles through the same fucking horseshit he would be curious enough about Rudy to interrogate him at least.

>>281388531
where are this guys arms

>>281388721
They were cut off. Don't worry, they grow back

>>281388035
I don't like the generic cuts in his body

>>281388084
yeah just have 2pc body fat and do 100 pushups/crunches a day

>>281388433
>I mean without his pattern recognition via looping so much he'd get one shot by any of the sword style gods at least without the God Blade.
Nah, I don't think so. You're making him look too bad
Orsted can perform Longsword of Light with just his bare hands, so I don't think any Sword God-user can blitz him in 1v1
Also, he stomped Alek with the FGA+KDS face-to-face so his base speed alone must be above any toukifag swordsman

>>281388597
I'm still confused on why you think the fight made Orsted look weaker, he tanked Rudy's spell and then Rudy tried to play keep away while using the stone Gatling but even that ended up failing, I kind think you're underselling how much power the God Sword gives Orsted. He went from being able to be tagged by Rudy's Stone Cannon to disappearing Dragon Ball Style the moment he drew his sword. So maybe Base Orsted isn't as strong as we all think. I mean the Sword lets him defeat Fighting God Kalman 3 with Kajakut with taking a single hit.

>>281388660
Well he never managed to find out Geese was an apostle which means he was never able to find the final apostle in any loop over 20000+ years. The moment Rudeus revealed that he knew about the Man God, Orsted probably thought "finally" to himself.

>>281388787
>Orsted can perform Longsword of Light with just his bare hands
He learned those techniques after eons looping, he didn't have those skills when he first reincarnated into that forest, he was more than likely getting ass raped by the God tier characters.

>>281388787
Orsted with his God Sword is definitely not his "base speed".

>>281388837
>he was more than likely getting ass raped by the God tier characters
Uhh no? The only "god-tier character" I can think of that could've scratched Orsted from the ancient times would be Badigadi with the Fighting God Armor and even him was scared shitless of Orsted

>>281388899
>The only "god-tier character" I can think of that could've scratched Orsted from the ancient times would be Badigadi with the Fighting God Armor
Eris literally cut his hand off....

>>281388917
Eh, I just remembered that Eris Sword nullifies Battle Aura, but Orsted definitely didn't have Urupen Holy Dragon Aura technique in his first loop.

>>281388837
>I'm still confused on why you think the fight made Orsted look weaker
>Three spells that Rudeus state are the strongest he has ever used
>they only destroy half of a forest
>Orsted has bruises, is bleeding, and has burns from them
>Rudeus fires some stone cannons at Orsted, this visibly hurts him to the point it's later described he is bleeding all over
Here's what Orsted did the entire fight:
>Tanked all the attacks (mana used)
>Hit Rudeus twice or more
>Used one spell (mana used)
>Drew the Godblade after Rudeus pierced his Water God Style stance with Paul's blade (mana used)
>Fight ended
>later complains he used a fuckton of mana that will take him decades to recover
>Laplace and the generals in their fights were blowing up mountains like they're nothing, Orsted is supposed to be stronger than all of them
>Orsted's weakened father, that Hitogami manages to deliver the final blow to, was still able to tank a laser beam that erased the gigantic mountain where the capital city of the dragon world was located with ZERO damage
>we're supposed to believe Orsted is so strong he is threatening towards the very same Hitogami btw.
It also makes Orsted stamina look terrible, even with the mana issues. Dude used one spell, barely avoided damage on attacks that "erased half of a forest" and drew the godblade and goes on about "losing a considerable amount of mana". I believe his manapool is supposed to be the third biggest or some shit.

At least the fight being longer and Orsted doing more would make the whole thing more believable, no?

>>281389134
Orsted lost Hitogami in loops where doesn't have enough mana so he must've become really conservative.
Plus, Rudeus' mana pool is said to be the biggest on par with Laplace's and it was absolutely depleted to the point that his hair turned white, and you're arguing that Orsted should've had mana to spare? If you think of it a bit in relative to Rudeus' mana pool, you'd see a better picture

>>281372830
This is the writing quality this series is based on? Goddamn. Why aren't I making millions already? My ass should get to work. lmao

>>281386785
I thought the reason Rudeus couldn't use silent healing magic was that he couldn't "feel" the flow of mana while healing because of his Laplace factor, same reason he can't use battle aura. I might have made this up while reading though

>>281389134
>At least the fight being longer and Orsted doing more would make the whole thing more believable, no?
Not really, it's not like Orsted tanked some king or saint level spells, he tanked Spells that were charged to the very maximum that Rudy was able to charge them and with a mana pool greater than Laplaces that's a crazy amount to pump into a spell. OG Dragon God tanking that laser didn't matter much, the fact that he was still able to fight for 7 days straight shows how pathetic Hitogami really was compared to the rest of the Gods. Hitogami was only able to deliver that blow anyways after Dragon Daddy just got done fighting 4 gods much stronger than Hitogami and then 4 Dragon Generals on top of that. Dragon God can not be compared to anyone in the series. Orsted with God Blade and Max Mana is on Hitogami's tier, no one is on Dragon Gods tier. Orsted without the Blade is probably dragon General tier at best. Those same Dragon Generals couldn't even 1v1 Demon Kings, even Orsted himself stated that a battle between him and Malta wouldn't be easy.

>>281389337
You must've felt very intelligent when you wrote this post

>>281389338
>same reason he can't use battle aura
No he can't use battle Aura because Demon God Laplace couldn't use battle Aura and he has that Laplace factor.

>>281389337
write a page a day, that's what the Dune guy did. every day, without fail, at least one page, until you have a novel.
in one year you have a decent sized novel. in two you have a fucking GRRM tome.

>>281388969
>Orsted definitely didn't have Urupen Holy Dragon Aura technique in his first loop
What? He learned that technique in the prior loops. He doesn't have to go reacquire them from all the other dudes like some power up.

>>281389448
The base of the argument is that first loop Orsted would get raped by the god tier characters.

>>281389470
Ah, okay. Yeah, that would be so. Of course, I would surmise that Orsted died in his first loop without even knowing what the fuck is going in the first place.

>>281389470
Orsted himself is a God-tier character even without the looping, so I don't he'd get "assraped". Maybe he'll struggle for some time but no way there'd be anyone that can actually stomp him

>>281389459
>You spin my head right 'round, right 'round
>When you go down, when you go down, down

>>281389323
>and you're arguing that Orsted should've had mana to spare?
I think Orsted should've done a bit more to justify how much mana he lost. And if the Godblade is the culprit on his mana lost, then it just furthers my point on how Orsted should've tried more techniques before using it. Like, if the Godblade takes such a huge amount of mana, then Orsted should have a really incredible reason to draw it out, but in the fight, he uses a couple of normal martial arts attacks, one spell, and them he is like "nope, I'm drawing this shit right now", then the fight ends immediately.
>>281389362
>Not really, it's not like Orsted tanked some king or saint level spells, he tanked Spells that were charged to the very maximum that Rudy was able to charge them and with a mana pool greater than Laplaces that's a crazy amount to pump into a spell.
...that destroyed half of a forest. That's my point. The fight needs to be more impressive in the anime. What's the point of "B-but he pumped one billion gallons of Laplace juice in his spells!!!" if they aren't doing even 1% of what the dragon generals were doing to mountains in ODT? Orsted just looks like a bitch compared to them.
>Hitogami was only able to deliver that blow anyways after Dragon Daddy...
That's a point in favor of hitogami though. He clearly did not see the generals and Laplace as threats, he is above them in power. He needed DG as weakened as possible, but weakened DG was still tanking mountain erasing light beams with no damage. Hitogami clearly needs to be that fucking strong to do anything to DG, at least logically. DG is completely fucking busted, but clearly when DG was weakened enough Hitogami could kill him.

I think the director of the anime pulling Rifujin in to write an extended Orsted fight would be smart. It would still be Orsted dogwalking Rudeus, but at least they could justify Orsted's state in the fight way better.

>>281389502
Orsted in first loop
>Not god tier in any magic
>not god tier in any sword style meaning no longsword of light with hand
>not pattern recognition so no way to counter something like Deprivation Sword Kingdom
>No Holy Dragon Aura
>Every random person either flees in terror or tries to straight up murder him
>Doesn't even know he's the son of the Dragon God
He'd get slaughtered by anyone on Reida, K3 or Gal Farions level
>Also wasn't he a child when he originally got reincarnated?
Orsted without his Godblade, God Tier Magic, Holy Dragon Aura and Attack pattern recognition would be Badigadi tier at best.

>>281389612
I'd say he'd be even lower than Badigadi.
Badigadi revives when he is killed.
Orsted got killed sometimes in his sleep, and sleeping and waking up terrifies him, because he never knows if he didn't get SUBARU'd in his bed and then suddenly wake up in the same shitty forest he always reverts back to.

>>281389603
I actually have no problem with the scene being extended at all, I just don't think it "needs" to be. More Orsted is always good. I just think you're kinda overestimating Hitogami's power, he managed to mortally wound Dragon God with a sneak attack while he was fighting his Generals, the moment Dragon God he has to face Dragon God face to face he ends up sealed. Hitogami got lucky in wounding the Dragon God in the same way Rudeus got lucky in lowering Orsted's mana.

>>281389603
Why the fuck would Orsted want to draw out the fight? Obviously, he opted to finish it as soon as possible and drew the Godblade so he wouldn't have to deplete his many any further. He decided to take out the big guns instead of wasting more mana for some puny spells

>>281389710
Not to mention the amount of tricks Rudy kept pulling out was annoying him.

>>281383893
I'm kinda glad Paul isn't alive after saving Zenith. He’d probably still be depressed because Zenith is a vegetable, and Lilia would allow him to sleep with her in that state. Having a notoriously horny man, trapped in a house full of beautiful women is a recipe for disaster. Knowing him, he’d probably sleep with one of Rudeus' wives and say something like, 'You owe me, Rudy,' and ruin the family.

I don’t know which of the three he would choose, though. Roxy is so insecure that she could be coerced into it with just praise. Eris is the most physically developed but not the smartest, so she’d be a prime target for his lust. He’d just need to say it’s to deepen her relationship with Rudy and she’d probably buy it. And Sylphie has no spine and is okay with anything.

>>281389677
Sometimes he eats bad food. On purpose.

>>281389781
>cuck fantasies out of nowhere

>>281389803
You know I'm right.

>>281389830
>You know I'm right.
I know quite the opposite If I'm being honest.

>>281389830
No, you're not. Eris can kill Paul easily anyways, and the girls won't be into it unless you apply retarded doujin logic

>>281389781
>he’d probably sleep with one of Rudeus' wives
Like, literally the only one that Paul would find attractive enough to try to sleep with would be Eris, because she's the only one of them who has big boobs. And that chick cannot be raped.

>>281389867
She doesn't have to be raped. Just convinced enough to cheat and think that what she is doing is helpful to Rudeus.

Roxy is a slut so there's a slight chance.
Sylphie and Eris definitely not.

>>281389908
>Just convinced enough to cheat and think that what she is doing is helpful to Rudeus
Eris is not that dumb, anon. She's just not book smarts, but she's not on amoeba level. Doujins fried your brain

>>281389781
Nah Paul would not do that at all lol

>>281389781
This is just plain retarded. Even pre-turning point Paul wouldn't stoop so low, let alone post-turning point Paul. Lilia had to seduce him to cheat on Zenith, he didn't make the first move.

>>281389991
This pretty much, paul would not do that at all

>>281389909
Roxy and Sylphie are flatties. Planks that walk. That's absolutely unattractive to a Notos Greyrat.

Paul is not that much of a scum anyways
Reminder that Paul didn't dare to touch any girl when Zenith went missing with the Teleportation Disaster, yes even Lilia. The only time he fucked was when he got done in by a succubus and Lilia was the one who took care of it
Paul has integrity in him, you guys are belittling him as a character

>>281389940
From everything that we know about Eris, it doesn't take much convincing to get her to do something if it's about Rudy. She loves if too much, and would not let his father suffer alone. She's a Greyrat too, so she knows better than anyone that their sexual desires can't go unfulfilled. It's in their blood, anon.

>>281389693
I think Hitogami being able to do that sneak attack is extremely impressive. This like seeing some guy knocking out a bleeding tired bear with a punch and going "well, the bear was bleeding and tired". It's still a fucking bear.
>>281389710
I'm laying out possibilities. If the Godblade is responsible for him using so much mana, he ought to use everything else beforehand, no? It's not a matter of extending the fight, it's a matter of trying everything else before resorting to the one thing that will eat up all your mana and possibly end your run right there. This is why extending the fight would be better, instead of one spell, instead have Orsted use some more, maybe Rudeus and him use more spells and go into a Moore-like duel for a while, before Rudeus realizes he isn't going to win a magic duel, then he starts taking the fight more physical as well, then Orsted says "Fuck it, I'm ending it now" because the fight is going on for too long. It'd be much better.

>>281390077
I'm not saying the Orsted rematch is bad btw. I'm saying the anime has a chance to make it better and explaining why I think it would make it better than the book. Well, they won't do it, but one can hope lmao.

>>281390060
Not a chance. Eris pummeled Luke just from coming near her

>>281390029
Anon is posting his cuck fantasies

>>281390077
>This like seeing some guy knocking out a bleeding tired bear with a punch and going "well, the bear was bleeding and tired". It's still a fucking bear.
No it's more like a Lion landing a sneak attack on a bleeding and tired Polar bear that's still in the middle of a 3v1 with 3 heavily injured Hyenas, a Lion is still deadly but it's not beating a healthy Grizzly 1v1.

>>281390060
The first and last time Eris and Paul ever met, she was furious enough at him for having made Rudy feel sad that she was ready to kill him. And she just killed a few assassins a few hours ago.
She doesn't have any good impressions of him that she would even bother listening to him if he came at her. In a house where his own two wives and his two daughters and his son with his son's two wives and his son's female husband and his son's daughter live.

I mean, if Paul really was horny enough to not be satisfied with a threesome that involves his two big-breasted wives (one of them apparently a veggie actually a telepath now and the other very servile), he'd just fuck other big-breasted whores. Or big-breasted beast girls during mating season.

>>281390242
Yeah, he could go to the school and have a buffet of girls willing to fuck the father of THE Rudeus.

>>281390207
>a Lion is still deadly but it's not beating a healthy Grizzly 1v1.
I've never said that. I like my analogy better. The point of it is that knocking out a bear doesn't do that much, but it's still extremely impressive to be able to do it, because a bear is still much stronger than a human. DG is still much stronger than hitogami, but Hitogamit being able to damage a weakened DG, knowing a weakened DG can tank that laser beam from chaos breaker with no damage, is extremely impressive. Even after the sneak attack DG was still going too.

Anyways, we're getting off-topic. If you think DG is too much of an outlier that's fine, but Orsted is stronger than DG Laplace and the generals, it still leaves a massive discrepancy when you consider the Rudeus fight knowing what they were capable of.

>>281390275
>is extremely impressive
I just don't agree.

how would sex with Lara feel?

>>281375223
If he only bother to master gravity magic he would be able to beat a lot of people. Fly in the sky and just nuke them and it is game over or just levitate their ass to get them off balance then nuke them. Rudy just fixated on the weirdest thing in stead of thing that can help him in combat.

>>281390269
Heck, for that matter, if Paul was alive, Ghislaine might be willing to stay around in Ranoa as well, so now Paul would have even more options.

>>281390242
She didn’t know Paul was his dad at first, and they didn’t interact enough for them to really know anything about each other. I’m sure if Eris saw Paul on the battlefield as a swordsman, she would respect him more. She would understand that he is noble toward his family, just like Rudeus. But she would also know how emotionally weak he can be, having seen him in his drunken state the first time. Lilia would have no time for sex and wouldn’t find it appropriate while taking care of Zenith, who can’t even speak.

When Eris was pregnant, she offered Linia to Rudeus to sleep with instead because she knew his sex drive needed to be met. She didn’t think anything of it. She would probably have no problem sleeping with Paul if it were meant to help his dad. For Paul it wouldn't be just about being horny, but also envy. It would be his constant inferiority complex of Rudy since he was a kid, and how he's happily married to his 3 beautiful wives and having all the sex he wants, while he's growing old and purposeless. You can’t tell me there isn’t at least a small chance of that happening. It's fits right in with all the taboo shit this story is known for.

>>281390364
unenthusiastic blowjobs (extremely hot btw)

>>281390275
It's not like Rudeus was beating Orsted, he was just wasting his mana which is below Laplaces and probably even below Kishirika's. Even then it's not like all of his mana was drained from the fight, just a significant chunk of it, unlike Rudy who was at 0, also I don't even truly believe that Orsted can 1v1 Hitogami at all with the looping art, even if Orsted believes so, I 100% think Orsted's victory relies on him having help which would explain why so many people were in the final vision with him.

>>281390503
Kill yourself.

>>281378030
KEK this is canon

>>281389781
Paul is a bit of a dope but I think he'd be overjoyed to be a grandfather, and he's probably still fuck Lillia. or he could go to a brothel.
Paul was fucking those girls in his party right? the one with the big tits. a man has needs. saying he would be a rapist of his son's wives sounds like projection.

>>281389781
this is next-level thread derailment, even threw in a jab at Sylphie there. just another assmad anon jealous of Rudy and projecting his insane revenge fantasies.
kys.

Anyone else noticed how the usual shills and shitposters don't show up when you don't put the title in the OP

>>281390409
His dark future self still needed years to master gravity magic, and was devoted solely on becoming stronger.
The dragon god-employee Rudeus on the other hand has a permanent job, a far superior magical power armor, powerful companions, and several children to look after, and defeated <> at the age of 23.

The latter simply doesn't have the opportunity nor the need to develop a grind set. He's a riajuu, not an incel anymore like his dark future self.

>>281390519
My point here was a justification on why I think having more fight and Orsted doing more would justify the final results better compared to the novel. It's almost an excuse to justify seeing Orsted use his arsenal of abilities, while also having Rudeus' spells be more impressive and powerful. Why not have Rudeus' spells create a massive crater and eat up mountains? That'd be sick and make far more sense on how he was able to do so much damage to Orsted.

>>281390630
it's as if the thread's direction is dictated by the OP... nah. No way, it couldn't be.

>>281378030
Nanahoshi is kind of plain compared to Rudeus's colorful wives, but there is something about her that's very hot.

>>281390644
>massive crater
Did he not do this? Quite sure a mountain sized block of ice and an even bigger sized mass of rock would create a massive crater then a nuke on top of those, if you think about it he quite literally did destroy a mountain when he blew up his own Rock spell.

>>281389781
What causes this mental illness that makes one see every non-MC male character in a story as a potential NTRman?

wait I was wrong it was Orsted that shattered the Rock.

>>281390669
Her voluptuous thighs for one

>>281390674
I've mentioned it before, in volume 22 or 23 Orsted mentions the aftermath of their fight erased "half of a forest from the face of the continent". So whatever that means is what happened, but half of a forest doesn't inspire that much damage imo.

>>281390689
too much cuckporn

>>281390689
Fetal alcohol syndrome and parental neglect

>>281390758
ROxy has developmental problems and autism.

>>281390711
do you think orsted and her... ?

>>281390711
All those potato chips have to go somewhere.

FGA Alek is stronger than Orsted without the Godblade. Discuss.

>>281390718
Yeah I can agree with you there, destroying a forest doesn't seem like a great show of force compared to something like a mountain, also when you think about the physics doesn't make sense regardless because the mountain sized rock shot down to the ground "in an instant" should've obliterated way more than it did, I guess it did cause basically an earthquake, but really there should've been molten rock spewing at that point.

>>281388290
Eris is a lost fire emblem character

>>281390801
Maybe Equal at best, and that's with the Kajakut Sword. Kalman 3 would definitely be more powerful than Badigadi at the very least. Also now that I think about it has Orsted ever successfully killed baby Laplace in any loop?

>>281390801
Orsted would've just used more mana if he had not equipped the sword

>>281390785
yup and that makes her cute

>>281390574
OMFG. It's not rape, it's seduction. They would need to be convinced to have sex with Paul. Paul isn't fucked up enough to rape one of Rudy's wives in his own son's home. Or is he...? You see back when Lilia and Paul first met, Paul did rape her in the middle of the night and disappeared the next day. Paul not only fucked Zenith, but all of his other female party members as well. When Paul even looked at Philip's wife with sexual desire when he was happily married to Zenith and had already cheated before with Lilia.

He loves Redues as a son, but he does think he's inferior to him and feels a need to prove that he's in control in some way as his father. The teleportation incident, and now he has his wife back, but is in a vegetative state. In Paul's head it would be as if he's losing control of his life. It would be perfectly in character for Paul to get jealous of his son and think he is privileged to have sex with one of Rudy's wives after losing all control of his own.

>>281390880
tell me about Orsted, why does he wear the buckle harness?

>>281390879
>Also now that I think about it has Orsted ever successfully killed baby Laplace in any loop?
A lot of times? He fucking knew where he would respond at some point

>>281390940
It's for the cool guy points

>>281390944
>A lot of times?
Then that just means even at "full mana" he loses to Hitogami.

>>281390931
Fuck off, already nigger
It's clear you're just seething because MT is having nice thread right now and we're having a good time
Go be a clown elsewhere

>Sylphie
Facebook mom, sends retarded minion memes and "good morning" gifs to her kids
>Roxy
uses 4chan in her youth, becomes a redditor when she meets Paul and Zenith
>Eris
Only uses youtube to watch cat and dog videos

>>281391006
accurate

>>281391005
I love this series. I'm only expressing my opinion on what I think would happen if Paul survived based on everything that we know about the characters and lore. Not only do I back up what I've said with evidence, but you guys can't give me a convincing argument against it, instead calling me cucknigger!

>>281391112
Paul would just fuck Lilia. The end.

ignore the queer

>>281391144
unf, CHRIST
that's it i need to jerk off now

Could Ruijerd 1v1 Auber?

>>281391146
Responding to the shit poster over and over again makes me think you're him samefagging.

>>281390665
They don't recognize the character. They never refer to him as "Rudeus" either because the haters have no idea what his name is.

Something I don't get is why people desperately wishes that Rudy was a geniunely good person. Can't they just enjoy a show with a bad (in the moral sense) main character?
Rudy's story is enjoyable to follow and I feel it would be too boring if Rudy was a paragon of justice or some charicature.

>>281391218
Difficult to say.
Many of the ninjutsu tricks that Auber can do (hiding in the ground, using a fake wall cloth, replacement jutsu) would probably not really work on Ruijerd thanks to his third eye.
I'd say that overall, Ruijerd's the more likely one to win, as he has more combat experience (500 years or so), and he uses a superior type of weapon (a spear).

>>281391218
Probably not, Ruijerd is a fairly straightforward fighter and Auber has too many cheap tricks in his arsenal to catch him off guard.

>>281391225
Yeah, my bad. That's the last of it

>>281391218
I personally think Ruijerd hard counters Auber.

>>281376338
It's going in order of the kids

>>281391146
But would he? Lillia is getting old in age by that time. We already know that after they get Zenith back, Lillia puts all the burden of taking care of Zenith on herself and has no other desire to do anything else. She more than likely would have no interest in fucking Paul more than ever due to her own insecurity about her age, and the responsibility she has. This leaves nothing but Paul to be alone and bitter. He could always go to the brothel, but he would still have to come home and see Rudy's beautiful wives, especially Eris, every day. Wouldn't that get tiring? Hering Rudy fuck his wives through the walls, while he's alone, jerking off by himself? The desire is there. That's not even accounting for if Hitogami decided to fuck with his head. He would be a prime candidate.

>>281391315
the problem stems from most of the haters being big 3-esque battle shonen fans. So they cant help but slurp up the black and white slop because it reminds them of that time they enjoyed shit like Naruto or Wanpiss.

>281391362
Leo exists so Hitogami wouldn't be able to fuck with anyone's head, but it's something you'd know if you weren't a filthy wikireader

>>281391436
Well, excuse me, I forgot the dog. It's a 26+ volume book series. I'm not going to remember every line and character. It's not like Paul would need any external forces to convince him anyway. The man likes to fuck.

>>281391215
this is Roxy's kid right? she's way too sexy.
Loli mamas should not reproduce. it's too destabilizing.

>>281391547
Why are you even here anyway? Did the threads you made die off at 15 posts or something?

>>281391547
Leo, his destiny and his ability are quite important to be forgotten.

>>281391603
Why are you so convinced that I hate this series? Someone who hates the series couldn't be imaginative enough to come up with alternative scenarios of the plot. I simply thought about Paul surviving and thought it was an interesting discussion point. An actual nonfan would just say "lol pedo groomer."
>>281391605
The story says he's important but he's really only a plot device and doesn't get any other story than just being a dog. It's not hard for it to slip from someone's mind.

>>281391436
>is a dog
>named Lion
ok rifujin...

>>281391929
I named first dog "Bear"

>>281391982
shoulda named him Ursus

>>281390630
Try to ignore shitty bait threads next time new friend

For me? It's Alek

>thread going so good a shitposter couldn't help but itch the sand in his vagina
We might've outdone ourselves again, boys

>>281392094
redpill me on this guy

>>281392288
EVER SINCE I WAS LITTLE, I dreamed of being a hero. Old tales from
my father and my grandmother were my inspiration there, as you might’ve
guessed. From my father, I heard the legend of North God Kalman, the
little-known champion. From my grandmother, I heard the legend of the
fearful demon king named Atoferatofe. Together, it was the tale of a
champion and a demon king. A demon king was born powerful, was a ruler,
and had no peer when it came to viciousness. A champion was born weak
but overcame many trials to strike down the vicious demon king. North God
Kalman and Atoferatofe embodied this idealized pairing. My father told me
how precious that connection between champion and demon king was.
North God Kalman the champion wasn’t strong, by any means. Possessing
slightly more skill than most, he’d set up his own school, but he was still
never anything more than a commonplace warrior. Despite that, he waged a
hopeless war for peace. That was the sort of era it was. He couldn’t have
lived with himself otherwise. The only reason they called him a hero was
because he faced the final battle and survived it. No one would have
remembered his name if he hadn’t. Having said that, the fight—the Laplace
War—was such a terrible war that just surviving could be counted as an
achievement. Many people fought and died ugly deaths in that war. Human,
beast, elf, dwarf, halfling, or demon, they all died. That meant everyone
who survived was great, or so my father said. He told me it was a time
when you needed all your strength and your wits just to survive. My
grandmother seemed to agree with him. My grandmother didn’t die in the
battle, but she was sealed away partway through. “What would you call
those who achieved the great feat of ending the war in such an era, if not
heroes?” my father would say passionately.

>>281392382
My favorite story was a different one. A different hero with the same
name: the tale of the Second North God Kalman.The second Kalman set
off on a journey to make the name of North God Kalman, a true champion,
known throughout the world. In his travels, he helped people and defeated
great enemies. He wasn’t righteous, not by any means. He wasn’t resolved
to help people or snuff out evil. It just so happened that he ended up helping
people and nations. He earned the gratitude of many, but he fought only for
the name of North God Kalman…and by the same token, to show off his
own strength. He had no reason to fight, nor any demon king to slay. He
fought only for himself. And ultimately, he became known as the greatest
warrior.
Yes, there was a time when no one disputed that Second North God
Kalman was the greatest warrior alive.
He managed to pull that off. Because
of that, I thought that he really was a hero. He was the coolest person in the
whole world, so I looked up to him. My father told me I wasn’t to be like
the second North God. He only told me the story because it made me happy.
He wasn’t proud of it, not in the slightest. If anything, my father heaped far
more praise on the First North God. “He was really amazing, really noble,”
he’d say

>>281392401
It was the Second North God who stayed with me in my heart. It was
the Second North God who I wanted to be like. Lying in bed before I went
to sleep, it was he who I imagined becoming. I’d fight like the Second
North God and eventually become a hero.
When I realized I had a talent, my dreams grew closer to reality. I had
a knack for sword fighting. So strong was my grasp of sword fighting that I
sensed my own great potential. Because of that, I thought—without basis, it
turns out—I could defeat the Second North God. I should have been able to.
I put everything I had into it. I had more than enough potential.
So why did it end up like this?
Now, total darkness covered my vision. My body was being squeezed
hard and there was a ringing, like when you cover your ears with your
hands. My limbs wouldn’t move at all, and my awareness was hazy. The
pressure on my body hurt. If I weren’t me, maybe I’d already have been
crushed to death. I couldn’t do anything, not even twitch. It was agony to
breathe, but my body was tough. I could tell this wasn’t enough to kill me.
Maybe because I couldn’t move, my thoughts wouldn’t stop racing.
I once heard the story of how my grandmother was sealed away. My
grandmother was a brute, and people of her race didn’t die easily, so she’d
been sealed away numerous times. My father liked to say he’d seal me
away if I was naughty. They’d have my grandmother tell me about the time
she spent sealed away. Grandmother told the story with a scowl.She said she got better at talking, but she lost the use of her body and
the power of speech. Her thoughts grew dull and her usual urge to wreak
havoc was forcibly suppressed. She said it was absolutely humiliating. I bet
she felt just like I did now.

>>281392428
I lost.
I lost to the follower of Dragon God Orsted, “Quagmire Rudeus.” I
never should have lost to such an opponent. Rudeus was a fainthearted, lilylivered, spineless rat. The sort to surround himself with safety nets. A guy
who couldn’t take a fight. He thought he was so clever, when all he had was
low cunning. He was the type to be so overconfident in his own plans that
he got sucked into them and died.
…No, that’s not right. He was spineless, but he wasn’t without
resolve. He showed me that at the end. He came out and fought. He fought
me one-on-one. I was gravely wounded, but even then, the odds were in my
favor. He must have known that, yet he still stood up to me. He knew
getting that close could be fatal, but he stood tall and struck true. I didn’t
think he had it in him. I misread him, and lost because of it. I had to admit
that.
Rudeus Greyrat was a warrior. Maybe it was guys like him who were
the real heroes. A little cowardly, a man who couldn’t survive without the
help of others, working out convoluted strategies, scurrying around as
fainthearted as a mouse. Underneath that cowardice, he harbored hidden
courage.
Someone with the guts to fight with all their strength against an
opponent they have no hope of defeating… Yes, just like the First North God

>>281392454
Okay…I see now. Perhaps I misunderstood some things about
strength. I thought a hero only had to be strong. What is strength, really?
Could you call yourself strong for fighting and defeating opponents weaker
than yourself? I could’ve surpassed the Second North God. I could’ve
become history’s greatest North God Kalman. That wasn’t worth
questioning; I knew I could. What would it matter? When you achieved
something you knew you could do all along, what does that mean?
A true hero fights battles even when he doesn’t know if he can win.
It’s by achieving an impossible task that you become a hero. Like how the
First North God Kalman reformed Demon King Atoferatofe. Like how the
Second North God Kalman slew terrible enemies beyond mortal
comprehension across the world. Like how Quagmire Rudeus defeated the
Third North God Kalman.
You had to do something that, at first glance, seemed beyond you.
Yes, exactly. That’s why I lost to Rudeus. This time he was the champion,
and I was the demon king. Just like the demon kings of history, I’d sneered
at the champion and treated his allies like insects. Too proud to unleash my
full power, I’d been defeated. Rudeus Greyrat was a champion—a hero

>>281386568
It could be something like knowing whether it's magic regenerating cells based off nearby tissue or magic fueling the body to heal itself. To say nothing of if soul is involved somehow. Those are the kind of questions that make it difficult to determine the best way to apply the magic in a particular fashion.

With rock bullets, Rudy messed with rotation, speed, size, shape etc, but that's just manipulating the rock different ways. Looking at it that way would be much more difficult without exceptional medical and anatomical background. Not to say that it isn't a valid path, but Rudy doesn't have the necessary background for that type of thinking for healing magic.

Novel readers, does Rudy think of Ruijerd as his hero until the end?

based and schizo pilled

>>281392478
It was hard to shake the impression, looking at him in the flesh, that he was just a pitiful small-timer, and so you ended up underestimating him. He did great things. They’ll surely call him a hero in ages to come. I got it wrong. I
would have had to do everything in my power to crush him from the get-go
if I wanted to stand a chance. Like a fool, I thought I’d knock him off without really trying because the next battle was the real one. I should have known. Ever since I was a child, I’d heard the story, over and over again, of
the demon king who lost making exactly this mistake. How could I have
forgotten something so simple? I wanted to go back in time and punch
myself.
I was wrong, and that’s how I ended up paralyzed in a place like this.
…Was I going to die here? Maybe because I had a lot of my
grandmother’s blood, I was tough. I’m not so easily destroyed, not even
buried in the ground like this. Only, unlike Grandmother, I wasn’t immortal.
If I stayed paralyzed like this, eventually I’d die. Either from starvation or
something else. I suppose this is how it ends for a reckless fool…
“I don’t want to die…”
It’s well enough to die when you’re defeated. I could accept it. That’s
the nature of battle. I tried to always accept my death—but only after I’d
fought with everything I had. I hadn’t done that. I hadn’t been serious. That
wouldn’t happen next time. Next time, I wouldn’t hold back. I’d fight with
my full strength from start to finish. I’d do my utmost in every battle, like a
champion, like a hero, like a man worthy of the name North God Kalman. I
swore it on my sword, on the gods, on my grandfather, the great First North God Kalman.

>>281392493
they kiss later on

>>281392493
He trusts his so much he's fine letting him fuck his sister

>>281392566
it wouldn't be weird unless it was one of his daughters
Norn is fair game. you can fuck your friends's sisters if you marry them. even your age gap friends.

>>281392566
That looks more like a bro he can trust, not a hero.
I remember Rudy admiring Ruijerd a lot and literally think of him as a hero. His masterplan to clean the Superd image was to make a stroybook with Ruijerd as the hero because he genuinely thinks that he is a superhero.

>>281390665
No I mean that they're either bots or they haven't actually watched it and wouldn't recognize a thread where it's identity isn't immediately obvious

>>281392506
Isn't Sieg basically on the same path as being just like him?

>>281390242
animeonly detected. she actually made up with Paul in the books

>>281392624
Considering the Superd lifespan, it won't be weird to even entrust your daughter to him. He will properly protect and make happy any women he loves.

Is Ruijerd still alive when Henry read the Diary to Luicelia on that Redundancy illustration?

>>281390669
>but there is something about her that's very hot.
Forever 17.

>>281381908
>Rudy could've rawdogged this 10/10 to his heart's content
Nah, Nanahoshi has oneitis.

>>281390791
No, she is saving herself for her childhood friend without knowing that he is going to plap a lot of girls before her.

>>281387583
nta but I'm assuming the criticism is relying on special effects and how there's 0 stylization on the animation or timing itself or anything that displays an animators exploration of the interaction. All you see is the spinning drill, special effects, and a lazy waving cape with a damage shot. I haven't watched much of this yet but if this is a very important scene I guess it could be a bad thing. Then again it's a miracle it looks this decent already. Not everything is going to be 10/10.

>>281393571
That webm on the OP is actually pretty good. It's smooth and there's physics behind the animation, trust me it's the best kind of animation there is. It's different to Ufotable's effects galore just for the sake of being flashy. Well obviously, the show couldn't keep this kind of animation all the time, but it's still a treat

say the world ends, what happens to everyone? there is no afterlife in MT so...

>>281394648
you know what it was like before you were born?
it's kind of like that.

>>281394090
the fights scenes in MT, at least S1 and the Hydra, are perfect. not flashy bullshit made to wow retards but actual clever choreography

>>281390806
The rock was 1km sized according to Rifujin. So realistically this is what should happen in the anime
>Rudeus creates the rock high in the sky
>Rock falls at teleporting speeds, it becomes a ball of fire that lights up the sky
>Rock ignites the surroundings on impact, creates an earthquake due to the impact and a shockwave flattens everything around for tens of kilometers
>The crater itself is several kilometers, a hole of molten rock hundreds of meters deep
This happening in the anime already would be fucking cool. They could compliment it
>Lightning bolt looks like a pillar of light, ignites surrounding trees instantly
>Immediately shifts to a apocalyptic level storm that spans hundreds of kilometers, uprooting trees and volumes of rain pouring in, becoming a massive iceberg
>meteor happens as described above
>fire magic looks like a nuclear explosion, destroys everything that the meteor didn't, transforms the surroundings in a hellscape like in the trailer
Sick as fuck. Season 1 Bind would've done it. And for dramatic effect
>explosion is so massive everyone all the way from Sharia can see the light it creates when it ignites, some Oppenheimer shit

>>281382878
>Eris' pussy probably grips like crazy
This is all but directly stated in the books. She also rides Rudy like a tigress so sex with Eris is quite the experience.

>>281395010
I really hope they do that scene justice
they have to show up that chink fan animation at very least

>>281395186
But how would she ride Paul?

Eris might legitimately be the hottest girl I've seen in all of isekai. Like, she totally mogs everyone on Overlord, Re:Zero, Konosuba, etc. I don't anyone can even compete

>>281395364
Eris is the most loyal wife to Rudy. Begone, tertiary cuckposter.

>>281393156
Yes. No reason he'd be dead, Norn however...

>>281395364
By offering to be his carriage chauffeur maybe, because there's no way Eris would ever cheat on Rudy or Paul on his wives after the teleportation incident. Now fuck off with your porn addled brain, cuckshitter.

>>281395448
>>281395528
She truly is so beautiful. I can't say for sure since I don't read or watch that much Isekai, but she's very likely high up there. There's not many ways to top her design.

>>281395364
She wouldn't. Eris would have no control, ironically. Unlike Rudeus, Paul would be more assertive in bed, giving Eris a feeling she’s never had before. Submission. Paul would be stronger than her, bigger, and rougher than Rudeus. The mad dog who was once a top is now a bottom. Folded in half, knees to her ears, legs in the air. It would be an experience like no other. Something she had done on a whim to cheer Rudeus’ dad up would suddenly have her craving more. Sex with Rudeus would no longer feel the same. Eris would find herself unable to cum and secretly seeking off in the dead of night, asking her father-in-law to comfort her.

>>281396283
You know, I know you think you got some mad writing skills, but from the time you made your very first post, I never actually read it. With just one look, I immediately got it and I never go back to looking at it again. Its just boring and you're just annoying. Fuck off now will you, tertiary shitter

>>281396373
It's all in good fun. Relax.

281396283
>Eris would have no control, ironically.
Aand thrown into the garbage bin, where it belongs. Kill yourself, tourist.

>>281392897
Eh, Sieg can feel the cringe when somebody else is doing chuuni stuff like him. Kalman III on the other hand lives and breathes chuuniness. He'll totally seal one of his arms, yell about how dead the enemies will be in front of the north god and how he'll bring justice to the world.
Sieg meanwhile was just larping because he was a jobless bum who was bored and immediately stopped once his dad and his teacher joined in.

>>281396472
I was having a good time when the topic was power levels, fights and shit. You know, decent anons don't even want to interact with your cringe fetish posts in your braindead ecchi threads. Go back and stay there

>pedophilia
quite
>polygamy
quite
>slavery
quite
>incest
quiet
>some random NTR fantasy about the main character getting cucked by his dead dad
woah woah, buddy. that's too far!

>>281396639
I can't believe i spelled that wrong 3 times.

>>281396639
Based MT fans showing 'tegridy where it matters. Also
>polygamy
>quite
Why yes, how could you tell?

>>281396657
I can. You're obviously a fucking imbecile, and it bleeds into everything you say or do, all day, every day.

>>281396283
I read the WNs in japanese and this is canon

>>281396639
this picture is so unintentionally funny. it's not badly done, but it has such an aura of "no throughts, head empty"

>>281396695
It's the the same letters shuffled around a little. Give me a break for not noticing. You probably didn't even notice the second 'the'.

>>281396639
Yes? The fuck would I want to indulge in your cuck fantasies? Go take it to your bull

The only NTR that has ever happened in the Greyrat household was Sylphiette cucking Roxy for Eris. Bitch, wdym you're having happy threesomes with the migga, but as as soon as Rudy brings home his third supermodel of a wife, you can't keep your hands off her and you're looking to get on her pants at every chance? Roxy must have felt so betrayed!

>>281396738
Too late. Now no one here will take you seriously anymore. You have effectively become a pariah.

You see, the fact that the cuckposter keep insisting that this series is insanely depraved and filled with "taboo" is proof he's a tertiary. MT has always been a completely wholesome series that's comfy to read about

>>281396639
It's true.
Rudy and Aisha are pedos.
Rudy has a harem and he also is fine if Eris takes the beastgirl princesses as her concubines.
Those beastgirl princesses became Rudy's slaves (they are technically temporal servants).
Incest, Aisha again.
NTR? That's beyond stupid. The closest thing to NTR is Rudy marrying Eris when in most timelines she marries Luke.

>>281396858
Oh nooo

If Rudy was stuck with Paul instead of Ruijerd in Demon Continent, how far do you think they'll get? Do you think they can safely make it back home if Paul replaced Ruijerd?

>>281397183
the snake monster might have killed them

>>281397214
Eris+Rudy+Paul probably could beat it, high-diff

why do brown people like this anime so much?

>>281397401
Being born as a european and grooming little girls is every brown's dream.

>>281397401
Because its good. Beats everything in the catalog

>>281397401
>still won't post his hand

>>281397441
Are Europeans' known for grooming little girls?

>>281397401
gonna post your hand today?

>>281397517
He won't cause he's projecting, kek

>>281397517
He is brahmin, a honorary aryan, bro.

>>281396847
>roxy in a white one-piece
>sylphie gently cupping eris's breasts
hrrngh

>>281372830
One of my favorite jokes which they cut from the anime is early on when Rudeus uses Stone Cannon for one of the first times on a Treant which they want to use for wood and he fucking atomizes it.

>>281385398
No He Drops a nuke on Orsted and it just pisses him off and burns his clothes Orsted just took that attack from Rudeus to see how strong it was.

>>281392288
He’s a based schizophrenic that joins the main cast.
Gets buckbroken by Orsted so his arrogance gets lowered a little bit but he’s still a massive based schizo.
No wonder though considering pic related is his grandma.

>>281383351
No she wasn't? The Greyrats were in their mid 40s when she left so she would be mid 20s at most.

>>281376152
The true Man God came to the Dragon God and explained to him that the Dragon God should have a kid with his daughter Luna who is half god half human so Orsted would be 3/4th God and 1/4th Human. But at some point Hitogami killed the True Man God and took his skin basically and tried to kill Luna and Baby Orsted but Luna protected Orsted with her body. This was all to make the Dragon God chimp out and genocide the other 4 worlds until he got revenge which he did. Hitogami using him since he himself is physically weak while the Dragon God was the strongest of all. Then Hitogami betrays the Dragon God who's super fucked up after all of his fighting and the Dragon God manages to use his last bit of life to Seal Hitogami to the Void, so he can't directly enter the mortal world and use his God Powers.

>>281376639
Kishirika is a literal retard who keeps killing herself before everytime he finally matures. It's literally joked about that she will walk into a pit trap hole and die because she's so stupid.
But when she is full power it takes Demon Dragon God Laplace to kill her.

>>281395186
She's literally perfect...

>>281372830
Umm ackshually, it was the ice that took the thing, not the treant, so the ice should be taking the credit

WN era roxy

WN era eris

WN era fittz sempai

>>281398249
Better than the Roxy now

>>281398352
what about this one?

WN era ariel

WN era linia

>>281398249
>>281398268
>>281398293
>>281398436
>>281398450
what in the deviantart?

and various WN era characters

>>281398489
it's called pixiv you dork

>>281398531
not with that quality

>>281398557
well, it was back in 2013

>>281398109
>Kishirika is a literal retard
Actually she's quite intelligent, it's the immortality that really affects their thought process when it comes to things like dying. Kishirika is obviously the smartest of all her sibling, it's the reason why she alone is the only Demon God offspring that still lives.

>>281398405
I unironically prefer the semi-realistic style here over the anime style of the official illustrations.

>>281398127
i prefer girls with slender sexy bodies like Roxy, Sylphie, Norn, Aisha, Sara, and Nanahoshi to stacked bitches like Eris.
Not that I wouldn't fuck Eris. She just would never be my first choice.

a doujinshi idea, Nanahoshi bot x Nanahoshi
discuss

>>281398792
would fap

>>281398792
or fucking Nanahoshi bot in front of Nanahoshi

I don't remember is there an Asian race of humans or just white people and Arabs (Begarett)?

We never got to know why Orsted was mad at Rudy at the end of the Redundancy Chapter where he took Lucy to school on her first day.

Is there an mtl for the new redundancy volume out yet?

>>281398792
So Automatons are definitely becoming a new race in the future once they gain full autonomy. I bet they'd turn the FGA into a full blow Automaton as well.

>>281392492
nigga should go to med school

rudy the retard

>>281398999
yes
https://files.catbox.moe/q7fr02.pdf

>>281397401
anime?

>>281397401
t. SEAmonkey

migger pussy
migger pussy
migger pussy
migger pussy
migger pussy
migger pussy

Was Roxy a virgin when Rudeus took her?

Can anyone confirm?

Good thread.
I still don't get why do shitposters have to derail the threads every time
MT is just one comfy series, why do they have to feel threatened that they have to stir shit up with some nonsense that doesn't really have a bearing to anything. It's all so tiresome, I just wanna have a wholesome thread for my favorite isekai

>>281398044
Damn. Some of the dumbest world building out there.

>>281400006
Sweet, that's not worldbuilding. That's just a backstory

it all comes to an end, remember to ignore shit posters and bait threads

>>281400033
Backstories are worldbuilding dimwit.

>>281400115
Hahaha, yeah

>>281395448
Indeed, she is. Adult Eris is #1.

>>281400163
Disgusting pedo rat.

>>281385997
Yes, he essentially calls those who use anything thats not swordplay "eccentrics"

>>281400006
Ok.

>>281397401
Well there is that black guy that basically became a body builder because he liked MT so much...

>>281398792
How did Rudy and Zanoba managed to make an "anatomically correct" bot? when did they see Nanahoshi naked?

>>281400740
Probably during the Nana depression chapter.

>>281400740
Maybe Julie was in charge off that.

>>281400762
Its been years since I read it but I think it was said Sylphy was the one in charge of cleaning her and changing her clothes.

>>281398293
Absolutely disgusting.