Thread 281387239

>not a chosen one or special blood
that alone properl Deku to the top of Shonen protagonists

He's not a special bloodline (avoided Dad For One which half the fanbase thought was going to happen) but he is a picture-perfect example of the chosen one.

>>281387304
>but he is a picture-perfect example of the chosen one
how? All Might chose him when he had no Quirk

>>281387239 (OP)
>literally chosen by All Might the greatest hero in history in the first episode

>>281387304
Chosen One usually means chosen by fate, not that some dude in-universe picked him to train.

>>281387239 (OP)
>not a chosen one
looks closer
>chosen

>>281387381
so if you are chosen in a job interview by the best in the field you're the chosen one?

>>281387722
Halfassing your terminology is like those people who hear "rpg game" and think it only means turn based fantasy videogames.

Why limit the idea of a Chosen One only to fate?
Was it not Merlin's magic and The Lady Of The Lake that made King Arthur the chosen one? Would being given a super powerful quirk not the equivalent as given an enchanted sword that shows you as King?

>>281387722
fate's usually a dude in-universe or otherwise capable of making decicions like one. there's no fundamental difference between being chosen by the strongest punch dude on the planet, a singing sword, a magic dog, a demon, or three bints up a mountain with scissors and string

>>281387823
If its a story about a job at some company then yeah, you'd be the chosen one.

>>281387855
king Arthur was chosen for being just
>>281387866
false equivalence, Deku was chosen for his characteristics not for something out of his control like being born in a certain day

>>281387823
if they only chose one, yes
if they chose more than one you're part of the chosen few

>>281387979
so for example, if you win a tourney you're the chosen one?

>>281387956
haven't an inherently heroic natire that most people lack isn't something deku chose. he says it himself he didn't decide to put himself between that villain, his body just moved on its own

>>281388061
>haven't an inherently heroic natire that most people lack isn't something deku chose
he was literally chosing to study heroes and their antics
he was a fanatic by choice

>>281388060
of that tournament, yes
for instance baki is the chosen one of the tokyo underground arena after winning their tournament

Nobody cares

>>281388106
most of the named characters in the story studied heroes, including the pro heroes on the scene that day. the narrative even makes a point that bakugo is a huge fan of all-might like deku, but without the same innately heroic spark, with him having to manually choose to become a more heroic person over time beyond just beating up villains

>>281388220
the story also shows that Bakugo is conceited and starts to change in school against Deku and Todoroki

>>281388106
>>281387956
How does him being chosen because of some positive character traits NOT make him a chosen one?

Deku does acts heroic and brave even if he doesn't have the power to back it up, and because of that someone with the ability to choses to bestow them the power to be a great hero?
Thats just Captain America. Thats just Shazam/CaptainMarvel. Thats just the goddamn soldier who was given the sack that caught Death.

Why are we pretending that Deku's origin wasn't one of the cornerstone examples of Chosen One.

>>281388060
If you win a tourney you're the champion.
If you win a tourney because outside forces aided you in fantastical ways, you're the chosen champion.

>>281388060
Did the tourney organizers choose you to win?

>>281388435
Chosen One != Worthy One

>>281388510
When your worthiness gets you CHOSEN by some random higher being, you're chosen. Deku was not the #1 most perfect person every across the world, he was just the first one the higher being tripped over.

>>281388510
What stories are you reading where a character gets chosen but WASN'T worthy?
Like beyond some dark conedy stories where "oh the magical princess chosen to get the powers to svae the world turns out to be a cruel deliquent who's just as violent as the evil badguys" is the punchline, what list are you filling of sotry heroes that didn't get chosen because of some trait that made them worthy in the eyes of the provider of power?

>>281387239 (OP)
All Might chose, taught and trained him and even wrote his entire work out schedule.

>>281388584
>>281388665
Naruto, Luffy and Ichigo were chosen even before being born

>>281388932
Alright, cool, Deku was chosen after. If superman didn't fly down and say "You're good enough, here have godlike power" he would still be useless. He didn't "Earn" anything, he just got exceptionally lucky.

>>281387239 (OP)
How much meat do you guys realistically think he's packing?

>>281387722
The legendary strongest hero on earth saw him do a heroic act and gave him the most powerful superpower in the world, bar none. This is literally the premise of the show. Arguing he's not a chosen one is completely insane.

>>281389107
you forget that All Might gave him a time trial to get buff enough to withstand One for All and Deku achieved it

>>281387239 (OP)
he’s literally chosen, thoughever

>>281388665
Chosen one means they were chosen before doing anything to prove their worth. Their worthiness has to at least be suspect enough that other characters call it into question and the chosen one has to prove their worth over the course of the story. If a chosen one is chosen when their worthiness is obvious to everyone, then they're not a chosen one; they're just a champion.

>>281389301
may I ask where you're getting this definition from?

>>281389226
>alright kid, do a basic fitness regiment or no godpower for you
And captain america had to become a soldier, and the Green Lantern had to be a virtuous so and so, chosen one still applies.

I don't know about these chousin ones. But can they beat Kami Tenchi?

>>281389226
>>281389354
he immediately selects him as his successor and then tells him to train to withstand the quirk because the entrance exams are coming up in X months. he never says "btw if you can't make it I'll pick someone else".

>>281389329
His ass.

>>281387304
No, you're just a retard who has no idea of what the chosen one trope is about.
All Might choose him because of how he acted heroically in the face of a hopeless situation.

That's literally the opposite of him being a chosen one.
You're too dumb to read Shonen, maybe try starting with fairy tales until your brain develops a bit, those will even teach you about what a chosen one is so it's a win win.

>>281389301
chosen one means there are multiple people but that particular person is the one who was selected. anything other than this is delusion on your part.

>>281389480
>all might chose that one!
>but he's not a chosen one!
>actually that's the opposite of a chosen one!
English is not your first language, is it?

>>281389542
You're dumber than literal kindergarteners.
Continue impotently seething about a popular story while having the literacy levels of a baby.

>>281389594
I like most of BNHA. Doesn't change the fact Deku is the epitome of the chosen one trope. Which in turn doesn't mean the story is better or worse off for relying on a trope. For some reason you seem to think relying on tropes is some sort of insult.

>>281387239 (OP)
>special blood
he's one of the few quirkless people, which as stated in the story means he could attain greater mastery over OFA.

>>281387769
Night Cruise was one of my favorite "f SAC episodes of all time. I didn't realize it was a nod to Taxi Driver until after I watched the latter.

>>281389497
I think that's too broad. There has to be some dramatic irony or character growth to write a story about. Otherwise you'd have to count characters like Netero or Yoda as chosen ones.

>>281389963
if they were the protagonists of their stories and the plot revolved around the fact they were chosen to receive great power and play a role of responsibility, then yeah, they'd be chosen ones.

>>281389383
So nowhere, you just think Deku is a better protagonist than these three with nothing but gut feeling.

>>281387304
He's kind of special in that he's one of the few remaining quirkless individuals, to the point where All Might isn't sure there will be someone who can take the mantle from Deku without them dying from massive age acceleration caused by having multiple quirks compounding with their own original quirk.

>>281387239 (OP)
>not a chosen one or special blood
Except he got the super-awesome unique power from the worlds greatest super hero, that provided him a half-a-dozen additional powers and realtime input from previous heros
The faggot WAS the chosen one, you fucking tard. His power was so massively OP compared to everyone else.
His unique trait, being an autist when it came to analyzing powers, was sidelined the moment these powers were introduced
tldr: Deku was the worst parts of being the chosen one with the worst parts of being normal.

>>281390138
Also, being quirkless qualifies as "special blood" in the mha universe, so he fails on both counts.

>>281390138
>being an autist when it came to analyzing powers, was sidelined the moment these powers were introduced
This still pisses me off to this day.

>>281390011
I disagree, but I think we're in agreement that simply being selected from multiple options does not a chosen one make.

>>281387239 (OP)
not a chosen one but still a nepobaby

>>281387239 (OP)
You know, it's so weird to think that the events of the story happened within the span of one to two years.
I kind of think Deku really should've just killed Shigaraki. Like, he died anyway, the only difference would be that Deku got to keep his powers and maybe skip a phase of the boss fight.

>>281387239 (OP)
You know that only works when you're actually some rando who falls into shit right? Just because destiny or some magical force didn't choose him doesn't mean he didn't get every plot device handed to him on a silver platter. Maybe if you retards actually spent time paying attention to shit and not whining about surface level story telling tools you don't understand you'd actually have a point one day. God what a fucking faggot this cunt was.

>>281388932
So you don't like destined or prophesized hero, not Chosen One is fine.

>>281390475
Damn. BNHA was a KOREAN story all along!

>>281390823
I mean if it was a Korean story, Deku would probably have got a bowl-cut and developed THE CHIN.
He would also have spent a not-insignificant portion of the story humiliating Bakugo, just constantly slapping the taste out of his mouth.
His love interest would be a cruel Stacey, and she would have a great Quirk, and she would constantly comment that Deku's displays of strength made her super-horny, making him self-conscious about losing his powers.
The dynamic would be really different.

>>281391078
What if BNHA was a Chinese Story? Would Bakugo be the Arrogant Young Master who claims that Deku is Courting Death?

>>281391099
Presumably the Chinese do superhero stories too, right? I think there's one airing this season.
Despite their limited cultural references, I don't think they solely do wuxia.

OP could've made an argument for Tanjiro.

To help people understand, let’s examine a different scenario. Instead of meeting All-Might, Deku runs across AFO. Seeing Deku in action AFO thinks the boy might be useful one day so he offers him a Quirk in exchange for having to do a favor for him one day. Now, does that make Deku "the chosen one"? NO it does not, it just makes him one party in a transaction. What if Dad For One was real and AFO just decided to give a Quirk one day to his son? That’s ALSO not "the chosen one" because in that case AFO would have been intending to give his son a Quirk from the start.

>>281391194
Tanjiro is a special bloodline (spiritually, not genetically) but not a chosen one. Nezuko would be the special bloodline AND chosen one, although spiritual hereditary may not cross over to the girls I’m not sure.

>>281387239 (OP)
They then later revealed that him being quirkless made him uniquely suited to using OFA, which was totally unnecessary

>le good eyesight
What a fucking Gary Stu

>>281391449
Pretty sure tanjiro would be just as resistant to the sun as Nezuko, isn't the reason Nezuko has that because of her close contact with the blue lily and/or the sun breathing dance?

There is nothing inherently wrong about chosen one or special bloodline tropes

>>281387353
>>281389354
>He was chosen
>What do you mean? All might CHOOSE him while he was still not chosen yet. Hell, he even have to struggle through a test that was imposed onto him to prove himself.

How did you type out your post and not connect the dots?
What do you think chosen one means?

For that mather, do you think the author didn't write him to be chosen? What, if he failed the manga ended with him saying "Sorry All Might, guess I was cut out for the chance you gave me"

It's so silly that it boggles the mind.

>>281387855
Ok, name one protagonist that was not "chosen" by someone or something during their story.

>>281392153
Wasn't Kirito just really good with a sword

>>281392167
He was chosen as a beta tester.

>>281387239 (OP)
yeah but he's better

>>281391934
Tbdesu the reason people hated Ninja Jesus had more to do with Kishimoto spending too much time huffing his own farts with the cycle of revenge shit.

>>281392233
But not the only person, so you can hardly call it the chosen one.

Why and when did people start complaining so much about "MUH CHOSEN ONE." Is this is some kind of self insert bullshit. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend a lot of crap didn't do a bad job of it but that same crap did a bad job of a lot of shit. It wasn't bad because of destiny. It's just such a moronic complaint by idiots trying to find something to latch onto to pretend they're smart.

>>281392410
>Why
overused trope in battle shounens
come on anon, let's not be contrarian for the sake of it

>>281387239 (OP)
Lmao he is, it was reaveled that him being quirkless was actually a good thing since only a quirkless guy can have OFA without exploding, also the explenation was bullshit and convenient

I would have liked to at least show how giving the strongest Quirk in history to a shitter ended up saving the day indirectly. Maybe AFO reveals that he was going to level all of Japan with nukes out of desperation upon the news that OFA was passed down, but since it turned out the bearer appeared to be trash it allowed AFO to take a deep breath and step back from the brink and pursue other plans. Mirio getting OFA would have been complete game-over for villain society -- AFO would have understand that very well and put into place a doomsday option.

>>281392410
Too many ordinary protagonists that were revealed to be super special chosen ones as a twist, it's one thing to be that way from the start and another to swerve it 1000 chapters later

>>281387239 (OP)
He punches hard but is also a strategist.
He cries but also smiles.
He loses but also wins.
He helps but is also helped.
He saves but also kills.
He seems sweet but also cool.

I really dig this motherfucker. One of the best (and most human) shonen MCs.

>>281392488
>overused trope in battle shounens
Battle shounen is overused in battle shounen. The whole flipping genre is one of the most rote genres there is. You might as well complain about tournaments, villain orginzations and a lead character who wants to be the SUPER MEGA ULTRA PIRATE HOKAGE MASTER KING. You want something with more creativity and nuance then you need to get the fuck out of Dodge.

>>281387855
>>281387866
>>281389107
It's not my personal opinion. I'm telling you what the trope means. There was nothing special about Deku, All Might could have chosen anyone to recieve the power, he just felt like choosing Deku because of the circumstances.

>>281392728
well yeah, those could be valid complaints, I don't get your point

People call CSM, KnY and JJK subversive just because they're edgy. MHA plays more with shonen conventions than both. And Deku is an example of this. His family blood isn't important, he doesn't want to be number one, he doesn't need masters and women to die for him to grow, he's not a dumb fuck who only screams and punches.

>>281391934
They only annoy me if its part of some plot twist.

>>281392752
>unique gifts
hmmmmmm

>>281392752
The story opens with Deku receiving a unique gift, and he's then framed as the inevitable hero of the story when the narration says "this is the story of how I became the greatest hero".

>>281392752
you keep going "no no no" and then you follow it up with statements that completely disprove what you're arguing for

>>281392356
The Cruller!

MHA is based on a true but common story. To get to top, just break your back for a well-connected baby boomer and then swallow his DNA and you too can be someone special.

>>281392356
I can't just keep scrolling without saying howdy

>>281387239 (OP)
>literally given the most powerful thing in existence for being le nice, then proceeds to not even try when it's taken away
decuck is barely a character

>>281392752
OFA is not excalibur. Everyone has OFA. I have OFA. It is not special. Being the only quirkless kid in town and therefore the only one who can wield it without dying is something anyone can do (20% of the world, 1% of that generation, which is the same thing as anyone) and being an optimal vessel for the not special at all power is absolutely not proof of special lineage or genetics.

(I use OFA to jerk off to the girls)

>>281389923
He was truly our guy. Even in future Japan there's still dudes wishing death on their fucking asshole boss and killing him with a desert eagle in his dreams. He's the Skyking of anime.

>>281394100
>Being the only quirkless kid in town and therefore the only one who can wield it without dying
This actually doesn't affect the story at all, since OFA only "kills" you by shortening your lifespan, and the story plays out in under two years before Deku loses OFA after beating the final boss.

>>281392752
jesus is the first chosen one

>>281387239 (OP)
>guy without powers overcomes his limitations in a world where everyone has them
Nah let's give him the ulitmate power in the world day one.

>>281394568
Just thinking:

Fourth wielder died of old age at 40 and there were three more after him that layered further complexity. He held it for 18 years so he started at 22. If the average lifespan is 80, then he experienced 58 years in 18. It can arguably be fudged that 3 extra quirks = he ages 3 times faster (18 years lived = 54 years aged, rendering Fourth's natural death at 76). Assuming it is not further amplified by how much OFA is trained.

Seven prior quirked wielders thus implies If Deku had a Quirk, he would go from physically 15 to physically 23-24 in the span of the canonical story, but if we go with the 'story feels rushed, they could have trained or done a time skip' approach, a Deku that wielded OFA until graduation would be physically 37-38. A Deku that managed to retain OFA in its entirety would be physically 79 by the epilogue, and he could've pulled a virgin version of Tanjiro and died at 25.

hes less a chosen one and more a scouted one. lemillion was the first pick

>>281395301
>Assuming it is not further amplified by how much OFA is trained
It is. Shigaraki's body exploded less than an hour after receiving OFA and it was extensively altered to be more durable for that exact purpose.
I know you're just spitballing but All Might wouldn't be alive by the start of the story if OFA worked like you said.

>>281395512
I'm implying quirkless = immunity to the aging effect, which spares Deku and AM

>>281387239 (OP)
Technically speaking, Bakugo was the one who defeated the Demon Lord and he wasn't the chosen one or special blood.
He did have a good quirk but you can't really expect someone with poor genetics to reach the top. Not alot of midgets make it to the NBA.

MHA fundamentally does not understand super heroes. That it sees super heroes as something the characters WANT to be because it's COOL rather than them being people born of tragedy shows a complete and utter misunderstanding of the material. Super powers are not something you want. They're something you get and then wrestle with the responsibility of.

>>281395923
This hasn't been true since the Golden Age of Comics.

>>281387239 (OP)
>nepo baby
>not chosen
lmao

>>281392706
Fuck, I want to know the story of mouth face back there, he'd should've got all for one!

>>281395976
It's been true at least up until the 2010s.

>>281395923
Correct, Hori obviously has no idea what a superhero is and approached them from an outsider consumer’s perspective.

>>281388220
Deku does not have a heroic spark. If he did then he'd see nothing wrong with being a firefighter or a policeman.

>>281397134
He doesn't, It's just not the future he wanted. If he never got into hero school he probably would have become one.

>>281394599
Moses and Noah over here lookin liked chopped liver?

>>281387929
Ugly Betty was retarded because if she wasn't purposefully making an ugly face like on that poster, then you could tell the girl playing her was obviously cute.

>>281392410
Naruto, it's always fucking Naruto.

>>281398103
Luffy is even worse
>god fruit
>will of D

>>281387239 (OP)
>literally a chosen one and wimpy devilman knock off #5937

>>281388932
>Naruto
>Ichigo
not exactly helping your case with the dogshit writing involved

>>281387239 (OP)
He's a faggot and so are you.

>>281389480
>>281389594
Why are dekufags so aggressive?

>>281387239 (OP)
He is literally the chosen one to inherit the strongest power in the show, one punch would have killed everyone in his class and his proctors. He did not work for it.

It's astonishing he lost any fights at all. The most bitchmade protagonist I have ever seen.

>>281400075
Autistic children tend to react aggressively to criticism of any kind.

>>281395923
I want superpowers retard, everyone does. Comic book writers are the biggest hacks in writing.

>>281387304
He wasnt special

>>281387239 (OP)
MHA is best anime of all time

>>281387239 (OP)
He was the chosen one to get cucked though

>>281392153
Maybe Denji?
His powers come from his bond with the dog chainsaw thing, bond he forged naturally after showing said dog chainsaw some kindness.
Sure the Dog chainsaw is some super special devil but Denji itself is just a normal human who befriended an OP demon

>>281392706
>He punches hard but is also a strategist
He's not a strategist at all, 90% of all his fights are just "punch harder until I win"
>He cries but also smiles.
This is any fucking character ever
>He loses but also wins.
Loses against Bakugou (3 times btw) and never manages to beat him even with his objectively superior powers
>He helps but is also helped.
Helps because he wants to live a power fantasy, gets helped because he wanted to play antihero and made it everyone's problem
>He saves but also kills
Only ever killed by accident because the author was too much of a pussy to either have him actually save Hero Satan or willingly put down a villain
>He seems sweet but also cool
He's not sweet, nor Cool. He's just safe and boring all around

>>281387239 (OP)
>not a chosen one, not talented, no asspull power-ups
>collected most of the zodiac keys
>caster of Urano Metria
>caster of Gottfried
>caster of Fairy Sphere
>summoner of the Celestial Spirit King
>rewrites Zeref's book of E.N.D.
>the one who trapped Acnologia with Fairy Sphere
>most diverse skill pool compared to any shounen MC
>fun personality
>sexy body
>great character development

Deku’s character, his personal story arc and the plot’s narrative overall would have been a 1000x more compelling if he had gotten AFO instead of OFA.

>>281401760
you're retarded

>>281400243
>I want superpowers retard, everyone does.

That's because you don't have them. The second Ultron comes stomping around you're not gonna have the guts to stand up to him. You're gonna be around the corner crying. And more importantly the fact that you WANT them is the biggest proof that you don't DESERVE them.

>>281404553
>Character who wants to be hero gets villain powers and struggles to make them heroic
vs
>I got all the power I ever wanted for free! Yay! Life is great!
I dunno. I think he's got a point.

>>281387304
He's not a proper chosen one.

However, I will say that it was infinitely bullshit how eventually it was revealed that OFA would have 100% killed any other candidate in a few years because the key to survive it without harm is being quirkless. Utterly pointless addition for anything other than drilling into your head that Deku was the only possible choice, despite the question being moot because he was already the bearer.

"So basically Deku was cosmically lucky to be the perfect candidate biologically and shut the fuck up about Mirio already." - Hori probably.

>>281392356
Howdy Brawler.

If the only good point about your character is that he's not some chosen one then that's still a very vacuous character

>>281387239 (OP)
Didn't they retcon Tangiro into being a nobody, too?

>>281388584
A better name for chosen one is prophecised one, because what they're referring to is usually: "You're the one from the legend! The one who will defeat evil and/or unite us all."

>>281387239 (OP)
It doesn't matter if he's a chosenbone or not. He's an awful character and an even worse protagonist.

>>281389329
What's this cucked mindset where you need an authority to tell you what things are? The trope there referring to is obviously the one where there's a prophecy of some sort at play. Usually there's a type of sword in the stone set up where only the chosen one is capable of welding this weapon, or piloting this vehicle, or riding this beast. Alternatively they will be born with some special marking or have some unique ability that no one else can use like in Gachiakuta where the MC has an OP ability the rest can't use or DBZ where Goku goes Super Saiyan (originally.)

>being a chosen one is... le BAD!!
Everything about life is luck. Grow up.

>>281387239 (OP)
Should have been a girl though. Would have been the cutest mc.

>>281409689
Yeah I used to dislike this trope but it's way more realistic than a complete loser becoming super strong by his own training or whatever the fuck.
OPM subverts it and I think that's what makes it good.

>>281409880
A challenger appears

>>281409492
no, what he's doing is going "these stories are chosen one stories because I say so, these ones aren't because I also say so".

>>281409492
You don't need a prophecy or a special bloodline or whatever for a chosen one story. The protagonist can also just be chosen by a higher power or powerful person to wield power and play a role of responsibility.

>>281387239 (OP)
this is bait

>>281387381
op's point nullified

Why did Deku wait for Ochako?

>>281387239 (OP)
>Doesn't try to become a hero until all might gives him his pubes
>Somehow unlocks the powers of all previous one for all users
>Immediately quits when he loses his powers
>Comes back again when gifted (yet again) an armor that gives him powers
This is literally the same thing as neji saying that people's fates are decided from birth and the incarnation of ninja jesus saying nuh uh.

>>281387239 (OP)
No matter how much you try to spin it, deku will always be remembered for asspulling 7 quirks when he was already gifted the strongest quirk and for being ghosted by his friends for nearly a decade as he rots in a dead end job.

>>281413150
you are right in all except
>Somehow unlocks the powers of all previous one for all users
All Might and Deku are quirkless, One For All grows better in them and All Might that had the Quirk for 40 years grew it the most

>>281413221
and yet conveniently, all might was never able to use other quirks. then a few months after deku got it, bam, seven.

>>281413221
>>281413221
Even if it has an explanation it is still bullshit to give him 7 extra quirks when he already had the strongest quirk.
If the point was to give him all the quirks it would have been better that deku inherited one quirk at random and then unlocked the others one at the time with ofa being the last, atleast it would have felt like a journey

>>281408337
OFA is Punch Harder. It’s being Superman more-or-less. It’s the strongest Quirk in human history. AFO is garbage at the beginning, you have to stockpile Quirks to make it strong. And this is where a TRUE superhero character arc comes in — will Deku stockpile Quirks? Never. He may be tempted to, but in the end his heroism will shine through and he’ll feel compelled to give what Quirk he’s taken to someone who needs it more than he does. He’ll start a fight with nothing, just his wits and autistic power cataloguing knowledge to figure out a way to come into contact with an enemy. In a fight with multiple enemies he has to strategize and work together with others for this to succeed. After the fight, he gives the Quirk back to the repentant owner, or hands it to another poor Quirkless kid, etc, so not only does this show ACTUAL self-sacrifice, it sets up each fight to showcase a different Quirk and new strategies, And the cherry on top? There’s NO WAY the government is letting the holder AFO just be a pro hero; hero society will hound him to the ends of the Earth in order to secure AFO. That means Deku must become a vigilante — NO money, NO popularity rankings, NO limelight, NO worship, if he wants to be a hero it has to be because he puts others ahead of himself and everything else can be sacrificed, full stop. Deku would ACTUALLY become the greatest hero in the real sense AND as a battle shounen it would be more interesting to read.

>>281413784
TL:DR

you would have a point if O MY SEVEN QUIRKS never happened.

O MY SEVEN OFFSCREEN WAIFUS

>>281387239 (OP)
Is this why he doesn't actually become the greatest hero or surpass All Might?

>>281387239 (OP)
Impressive one for sure. He really WASN'T chosen one unlike many others who turn out to be actually mega strong, special bloodline.

>>281416231
My tweaks:

>Demote Nagant & Mirko to A-tier
>Demote Tsuyu & Mitsuki to B-tier
>Demote Camie to C-tier
>Add Melissa Shield to A-tier
>Demote Teen Eri to B-tier
>Add All Might's Ochaco's Moms to B-tier
>Promote Kendo to S-tier (Or A-tier, promoting Ibara to S. My favorite varies but they both border A and S)
>Promote Jirou, Saiko & Mandalay to A-tier
>Demote Pixie Bob, Ryukyu & Uwabami to C-tier
>Disqualify Star & Stripe (no men allowed)
>Add Pony to C-tier
>Promote Setsuna, Kinoko & Fuyumi to A-tier
>Promote Mt. Lady, Ms. Joke, Nana & Yui to B-tier
>Demote Turtle Quirk girl (I don't know her name) to D-tier
>Add Tiger to D-tier (she will never be a man)
>Promote Toga all the way to S-tier (I am a Togafag)
>Promote Rei to B-tier
>Promote Ochaco & La Brava to C-tier

Verdict:
>S-tier (4): Momo, Nejire, Kendo/Ibara, Toga
>A-tier (11): Mina, Mei, Melissa, Toru, Kendo/Ibara, Jirou, Saiko, Mandalay, Setsuna, Kinoko, Fuyumi
>B-tier (11): AM's Mom, Ochaco's Mom, Ragdoll, Reiko, Tsuyu, Mitsuki, Teen Eri, Mt. Lady, Ms. Joke, Nana, Yui
>C-tier (11): Midnight, Camie, Pony, Pixie Bob, Ryukyu, Uwabami, Ochaco, La Brava, Ippan, Sirius, Bubble Girl
>D-tier (7): Recovery Girl, Inko, Hawks' Mom, Curious, Eyelash chick, Turtle chick, Tiger
>41%-tier: Magne, Star & Stripe

>>281417121
>Demote Nagant & Mirko to A-tier
you are homosexual

>>281400238
agree
this is a neurotypical board

>>281392356
Is having a spin-off the ultimate cuckoldry?

I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than having a spin-off. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are writing, storyboarding, world building and serializing a unique series for at least 10 years solely so it can go and be used by another mangaka as the setting for their own story. All the hard work you put into publishing your manga - making concept arts, drawing up plots, creating dynamic character arcs, ensuring a pay-off to a central theme. All of it has one simple result: It gets picked apart by disappointed fans who only see wasted potential when it gets compared to the spin-off.

Finally finished your manga? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky you'll get to have a more competent writer create a spin-off for it. A spin-off which will hammer home what it means to be a hero far better than you could have done, despite your manga having more than thrice as many chapters. Not just that, but they will accomplish such a feat by learning directly from your failures. The common critiques and criticisms of your characters, which you are too late in your manga's serialization to fix, but is perfect for them. Because now they get to take those characters that you spent so much painstaking time on, and simply make better versions of them for their own story.

As a writer who's series gets a spin-off, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 10 years of your life writing a message about heroism simply for another mangaka to do it better with less chapters. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. It is so bad you can't help but cuck your MC in his ending as an subconscious reflection of your own writing skills. Think about it logically.

>>281417200
No, I just don't put anything older than 25 at S-tier. Mirko's too much of a fight-tard for S-tier but if it was the younger hero Nagant she'd go to S-tier. You gotta be picky with your S-tiers or it becomes a kink list.

>>281387239 (OP)
Whats wrong with being a chosen one / special blood?

>>281418636
it completely ruins any pretense of hard work and merit

>>281413221
>One For All grows better i
ONE FOR ALL GROWS HOWEVER THE GODDAMN WRITER WANTS IT IT TO! It's not a real thing. This logic is pure bs.

>>281418689
Except a chosen one will still typically have to carry a great burden. A chosen one will a responsibility they didn't ask for thrust upon them. Frankly after all these years of seeing some whiny toddler cry to get everything he wants I'd much rather see someone get stuck in a shit situation and have to live up to the expectations thrust upon them.

>>281413007
it seems he had oneitis, sadly.

>>281419845
Every time I see this picture I assume Eri caught an eye full of Ippan's ballsack

>>281387239 (OP)
He was quite literally chosen. By All Might.

>>281419414
irrelevant, he's already chosen to win

>>281387239 (OP)
Literally chosen to inherit special blood

>>281387239 (OP)
to the top deku

>>281423074
that's vile

>>281387239 (OP)
>not a chosen one
>literally "chosen" by All Might
What did OP mean by this faggotry?

>>281397448
That's headcanon. All we know is that he doesn't agree with all might that those professions are heroic.

>>281422611
That's 99% of MCs tho. We're watching the fated hero luckmaxx their way in the world. Deku could have been pumping iron well before getting chosen, since it seems that's all you need, world is inconsistent anyway, quirks without endurance give you some anyway, tank buildings and shit.

>>281397448
He never even tried to get into one until he was offered the power.

>>281408346
Oh really, that was added in to plug the Mirio hole and absolve Toshi of being a fucking retard picking an untrained kid?

>>281392153
I think Kenichi asked his masters to train him and they indulged him after seeing how hard worker he was.

>>281423698
>That's 99% of MCs tho

I feel like, at some point, people have forgotten that everyone watching a show, KNOWS that the hero is going to win and that the point is watching HOW they win. Like if I read Captain America or Batman I'm not sitting their thinking they're totally done for this time for real. No. I have common sense. I know whose name is on the cover. I know the anime still has however hundred many chapters to go. The main character is usually going to win in some way. That's how fiction works. Exceptions exist but generally when you sign up for the ride you're in for the ride. It honestly baffles me how people these days even function.

>>281423810
Pretty much. Dude had no talent beyond his own gumption. They stress that a lot. Ippo was also pretty much pure moxie.

If a shounen protag has any skills at all, he's instantly a chosen one because he wouldn't be the protagonist without his special talent and skill. Yes, hardwork is a talent.

>>281389383
Well, all 3 are genetic freaks in their setting (their lineage gives them a massive boost). They then go on to obtain OPhax. Luffy's way more 'fate/destiny' aligned, guess naturo is too given the reincarnation/soul cycle he's part of. They all could have failed at some point, hell all 3 technically die at least once.

>>281423861
See in the case of like Naruto, I kind of understand the point people have because there was that whole Neiji thing where they have an argument about hard work versus talent. But I also feel like their own argument is absolutely out of proportion. He had the 9 tails but it wasn't like he knew how to use it out the gate. He still had to learn all his tricks the normal way. He wasn't just sitting on his ass eating ramen all day.

>>281392398
It's a weird game, he does have 'unique skills', but that's just weird game mechanics to me, fucking dumb thing to implement IMO but it's a huge advantage that ports to multiple games. Not like he was the only beta tester either.

>>281398718
Dude stomps his home turf, multiple characters in the first 100~ chapters call him out on his 'fate' and 'he's just like roger', he's got special lineage commented on early.

The 'god fruit' still hasn't let him stomp. Hell there's 2 other characters who have a 'god fruit'. What's at play is how reality-warping he could TRULY be so it goes the way fire force did, Luffy eventually realizes it's not just rubber shit he can do, but complete rewriting of reality.

>>281387239 (OP)
>later revealed that OfA can only be used at it best when used by quirkless individual
>despite All Might being the same, Deku was the one that reach singularity and get to use all the stockpiled quirks as per intended
A bit too covenient, ain't it?

One thing I've noticed about modern shonen fans is that when you really analyze what they ask for from a series, they just want Naruto again

Deku is a faggot

>>281424205
but Naruto sucks

>>281392153
Does getting possessed by a ghost count? Turbo Granny just wanted to kill him until he stole her power.

>>281390561
It's always been weird to me that everything up the first war arc takes place in their first year. Really feels like the Summer Camp should have been the final thing to happen in year 1 and year 2 should start with the class battles or something.

>>281424205
Does Japan do this?

>>281424941
Best woman

>>281406711
“Uh oh Ultron, I was superman the whole time, you can’t beat punch harder, back to masturbating”

>>281398103
>>281424205
Why not just go to HxH which Naruto is based on.

>>281427564
We really trying to give HxH credit for "a foxbiy is a ninja who is on a mission to make friends"?

>>281392148
chosen one implies a higher authority (like a god or a prophecy or a reincarnation) chose him with the express purpouse of fulfilling a destiny. all might just chose him as his successor
it doesn't matter because only western normalfags would cry about "chosen ones" in shonen media

>>281389383
luffy is more of a "fate" sort of thing. he's simply the one destined to succeed because all the variables are perfectly aligned. if roger sailed 20 years later he would've probably been the chosen one.
one piece goes hard on the theme of fate. more in a "because of who he is and what he wants, he is fated to do this". that's why the main power system is literally "ambition" and "will".
it's not like nika means he's gonna win, the previous luffy lost. if luffy were to lose another nika is destined to complete the story eventually

>>281428706
There's alot of similarities that are hard to ignore.

>>281387239 (OP)
He got OFA solely because All Might liked him, not because he was worthy. It's nepotism.

Mirio, on the other hand, was the top choice for inheriting the power despite his disadvantage.

>>281388106
And did he put his studies to good use? Absolutely not, it took him 100th of chapters to consider using is damnd legs to fight. He merely collected trivia about heroes.

>>281431458
>He got OFA solely because All Might liked him, not because he was worthy.
All Might deemed him worthy for his heroism