Thread 281400367

What makes a show philosophical?

The first psychological magical girl

>>281400367 (OP)
Gay sex

>>281400367 (OP)
When literally anything happens at all. Name one anime that isn't philosphical.

Hint: you can't.

>>281400367 (OP)
When it makes an actual philosophical point, which Madoka Magica didn't.

>>281400676
Explain

>>281400855
there's nothing to explain, he's just a contrarian

ooohhh
mami :D

>>281400367 (OP)
Uuu meguca :)

>>281400367 (OP)
No idea but big boobs and catgirls make it extra sophisticated.

>>281400367 (OP)
Mami's mamis

>>281400855
Madoka, along with most anime, don't say anything actually philosophical. I liked the themes of Faustian bargains, (emotional) fatalism, systemic oppression, Christ-like self-sacrifice, etc; but none of these bear fruit into a unique or profound statement. Don't get me wrong, I love Madoka Magica. It is one of my favorites. It does not, however, contribute anything to serious philosophical discussion. Which is OK, because it doesn't have to! It's a fucking anime, not a philosophical treatise lol

>>281401227
>t. reads aesop's fables and thinks it's about some random animals

Butts

>>281401263
>next post is a pic of Madoka's ass
Yeah, reeeaaaallll philosophical

>>281401329
so tiktok lain fans makes the show bad?

>>281401227
Sure, but you don’t need to invent an entirely new philosophical system for a work to be philosophical. Madoka, like Kafka, is narrative that engages with existing philosophical ideas rather than presenting a brand new theory like Kant or Nietzsche, and that’s perfectly fine. Saying it’s "not philosophical" just because it works through narrative instead of formal argument misses the point imo

>>281401329
Indeed!

>>281401453
Yeah I can see where you're coming from. Perhaps it is a bit of a high bar to expect a Critique of Pure Reason from a cartoon lol

>>281401329
you just ruined your entire argument and revealed the true nature of your agenda

>>281400367 (OP)
It inspires thought, thats what philosophy does.
Beyond that, its just Urfaust with anime girls.

Can't we just discuss philosophy of Madoka's ass?

>>281401833
for me it's Kyoko but sure

>>281401720
Madoka's ass inspires perverted thoughts
Therefore Madoka's ass is philosophical

>>281401845
>>281401860

>>281401930
Holy Ass

>>281401973
Kamishiri!

>>281401685
Yes... my EVIL agenda!! For you see... I... am a TITS MAN!!!

>>281402067
Can always have thicc goddess with both tits and ass!

>>281400367 (OP)
Meta shitposting about sentai-style magical girls isn't really a philosophical stance.

>>281401453
You could say nearly everything engages with existing philosophical ideas to an extent, unless the characters are somehow completely unable to express any thought or emotion.
Philosophy is about how people reason and define good/bad, right/wrong, after all.

>>281401227
It's literally a refutation of emotionless utilitarian Buddhist values.

>>281401227
But Madoka does in fact present a deeply philosophical question. It asks if evil is evil because it just really really wants to have sex with good.

You really can't put a Japanese cartoon to the same standard as a philosophical essay or work when judging it based on philosophical merit. An actual philosophy essay will always have more to say on philosophy then any form of fiction just based on the fact that the essay's purpose is entirely dependent on it's philosophy while the fictions purpose isn't.

>>281401833
Divine art that belongs in a museum.

>>281403212
I could make a work of fiction that's entirely focused on pushing some sort of philosophy, actual philosophers have done this before

>>281402641
Kyuubey isn't ever refuted, nor does the series attempt to refute him. As the audience, we're to side with the magical girls, but Kyuubey is intentionally depicted as "not right, but not wrong!" The theme here is systemic oppression, and the lesson isn't that the system is broken: the system works just fine, but YOU are not the one it works for. There is a critique of capitalism here, if that wasn't blatantly obvious already.

>>281402067
Madoka looks good with huge tits

>>281404519
>le critique of capitalism
do leftists have no original idea?

>>281400367 (OP)
Performative mental gymnastics for a show that a pseud/ironic weeb enjoys but feels too embarrassed to admit they like it.

>>281405726
>normalfag buzzwords galore

>>281405726
I think Madoka is good because i liked it

>>281400367 (OP)
thinking

>>281400367 (OP)
deep thoughts

>>281402641
>ultilitarian
>Buddhist
???