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Anonymous No.281415276 >>281415339 >>281416249 >>281416876 >>281419161 >>281419784 >>281419899 >>281420118 >>281420446 >>281420593 >>281420780 >>281421611 >>281421986 >>281423524
What was the anime community like back in the old days?
By "old days" I am referring to before the 21st century. How does it compare to the 2000s and how does it compare to today?
Anonymous No.281415297 >>281417681 >>281422450 >>281423384 >>281423858
old good new bad
Anonymous No.281415339 >>281416876
>>281415276 (OP)
First off there wasn't a "THE" anime community. Fan circles were smaller. More clique based. You might have one fandom based around a certain show or genre you would have them based on another. Secondly everyone had their own circle. Or place to talk shop. It was far less centralized and plenty of forums and boards had their own vibes. One place might have a completely different attitude compared to another. This is the big issue with most modern fandoms. You can't find any place that will offer a different opinion. It's all reddits and wikis which are so far up the publishers ass it can give them a root canal.
Anonymous No.281415345 >>281417681
All we watched was Boku no Pico
Anonymous No.281416249 >>281417620
>>281415276 (OP)
Anime felt like it stood out more. There was just way less media to compete with. Really felt like something ahead of its time. An experience you couldn't get elsewhere.

There was a lot more work involved in watching anime or providing it. Almost all subbing was volunteer based. Sometimes you had to get subs from 3 different subbing groups to finish a season, because they couldn't work on it long enough without the group falling apart.

In the ancient times, before you could reliably distribute video over the internet, people sent physical copies of VHS cassettes, with hard-coded subs. Or distributed them at conventions.

A lot more overlap between anime fans and japanophiles. Japan was closer to its economic peak.

iirc, moot had an anime collection on LaserDisk or Betamax, or something like that.
Anonymous No.281416876 >>281417620 >>281420687
>>281415276 (OP)
>generic "old anime" pic
>4/6 anime on it are from the 1990s
>2/6 are from the 80s
>all normalfag shit with the sole exception of Joe
Anyways, what this anon said >>281415339, anime "communities" were either insular groups or "general groups" where people would either be the annoying type of wapanese faggot one would go on to call a "Naruto running weeaboo" or be immensely angry and upset at how much those message boards sucked.

Anime, even into the late 00s, was more blogosphere and home page centric. Film and TV were socially acceptable enough to where people could just do that in real life, and video games were dominated by larger companies making English language websites, but with anime the blogosphere did end up being a real thing and it was emblematic of a diversity of interests within the community. I could go from some Catholic schizos analysis of how Yoko from Joe was analogous to the Virign Mary, to a guy shooting the shit on how Dragon Ball is getting dubbed again and they made Kuririn sound like he's retarded (surprised Funi kept that exact same voice considering I saw that specific line said at least 30 times when they rebooted the dub).
Anonymous No.281417620 >>281417686 >>281420755 >>281421067
>>281416249
In a lot of other cases being a fan of anime seemed almost incidental. Especially genre fiction fans. At least I did. There were even more cases of people liking anime without outright realizing it was. Though all the Asian names on the credits roll usually gave a clue that something was up.

>>281416876
Do seasonal anime blogs even exist any more? I remember a lot of people constantly posting their thoughts on currently airing shows within their own corners even up to like 2015.
Anonymous No.281417681
>>281415297
>>281415345
Based.

Fuck oldslop, I love isekai, I don't watch any boomer shit back when animu still had noses.
Anonymous No.281417686 >>281417746
>>281417620
Not really, since most people who get into anime now primarily do so as a more casual social thing, sort of like watching Game of Thrones to have something to add to the conversation.
Blogs still exist, but many aren't seasonal bloggers. Seasonal discourse exists 'in the moment' so people who talk about seasonal shows tend to drift to the discussion, that's all.
Anonymous No.281417746 >>281419397 >>281421121
>>281417686
I thing if I had to say what the biggest difference between then and now is, I would say this. Back then the fandom existed because of the subject. Now it feels like things purely exist for the sake of the fandom. What was once something doing solo that we were happy to talk about now exists purely for the fandoms own sake. The actual material almost seems unessential.
Anonymous No.281419161
>>281415276 (OP)
that's none of your business
Anonymous No.281419397 >>281419750 >>281420313
>>281417746
True to that.
I remember watching VHS and having a hard time finding material.
Anonymous No.281419750
>>281419397
hard times create strong men
post body
Anonymous No.281419784
>>281415276 (OP)
A lot less connected than today. A lot of people didn't have internet back then. Even for those who had it was dial up, and they charged depending on how much you downloaded, so getting videos for most was unthinkable. You could only get short 320x240 videos which looked like crap, a good VHS back then looked a lot better than digital media.
Downloading images would take quite a lot of seconds for each image. If you were a teenager you couldn't download as much as you'd like, because once again, keeping the line open meant you'd pay, unless your parents were loaded that was unthinkable. Oh, and also being connected through dial up meant you couldn't use the phone, so that was another reason why browsing for anime was heavily limited.

Most of the info you'd get would come from local magazines, and some of them would include a CD with media (which was appreciated a lot). Some companies distributed licensed anime in VHS, and there were also fansubs that distributed things that were obscure.

Meeting people before internet was widespread would happen in conventions mostly, or through local magazines, sometimes even in comic stores. In my case I only started hanging around with other anime fans in this century through forums, before that I'd go to anime showings either with one friend or alone, and from there back home. I did have 2 or 3 other kids who were into anime in high school, though, so in the 90s I'd hang mostly with them. There was a local that rented VHS (both licensed and not), so we'd chip in each to rent 3 or 4 to watch the whole night, and if one of the other guys brought their VHS machine home we could even copy them. We'd also copy from each other every CD with anime media we could get.

Also anime for most people was considered something only for kids, watching it after puberty was very weird back then, to the point that many hid their power level at school.
Anonymous No.281419899 >>281420057
>>281415276 (OP)
Back then you couldn't really watch full episodes. Even in the early 2000s images were hard to upload, in the 90s? Just nah. They existed but it was low rez screenshots or scans and tiny as shit. There was a lot more VHS tape trading and sometimes bootleg DVD swapping irl too, watching shows on the computer was just not an option. So there was a bit more politeness and etiquette involved because if you were a cunt people wouldn't really want to deal with you even if you had cash.
Anonymous No.281420057
>>281419899
And the first mp3 files were shit. Specially if you got 64kbps or 92kbps.
I remember when a 480x640 image looked fucking huge and took like 40 or 50 seconds to download.
Anonymous No.281420118
>>281415276 (OP)
Way back in the old days anime would usually be associated with science fiction, but only in the west. In the 90s, when it began to formally crawl to outside of Japan, some American and British localizers focused on the adult aspect of it, trying to focus on violence and more risque stuff. Communities in the 90s were hungry for fantasy, scifi, romance, etc.. Genres that western cartoons just wouldn't delve with much imagination. A good exercise is to compare what cartoons were being exhibited in those years.

For a look at how organized and chaotic the communities were, just search for CFO.
Anonymous No.281420313
>>281419397
I feel like the difficultly of acquisition is part of the reason older fans seemed to hold on to series tighter. When you only have so many tapes to watch you tend to grow fonder of them. That may sound like a bit of a cope, and I admit on some level it kind of is, but I also can't imagine having your central hobby be something you're effectively forgetting about the second the season ends.
Anonymous No.281420446
>>281415276 (OP)
In my country, Chile, the community was pretty active since anime has been a thing here since the 70s, add to that how we got anime that was dubbed directly from Japan so we had a ton of stuff countries like USA never did, a ton of kids here grew up watching stuff like uncensored Ranma or Mikami so it was nice to see anime tits at an early age or tons of blood on DBZ and Saint Seiya, there were also girly shows like Candy too and a ton of super robots, not real ones though.
Another thing is how anime VHS were everywhere and there were also places where you could rent them or trade them, that also helped keeping the communities alive.
Anonymous No.281420593
>>281415276 (OP)
> community
1-3 guys you knew who would lend you a VHS. stereotypical but not the revolting pedophiles we have now
Anonymous No.281420687
>>281416876
>joe isn't normalfag just because he didn't air on toonami 20 years ago
Anonymous No.281420714
A lot of communities were more people you actually knew IRL. The outcast kids in school who got together at comic shops to talk about nerd shit. It's honestly depressing how many nerd hobbies are ruined by going uniform.
Anonymous No.281420755
>>281417620
>Though all the Asian names on the credits roll usually gave a clue that something was up.
Not really. A lot of western cartoons were outsourced to Japan back then, because it was cheaper.
Anonymous No.281420780
>>281415276 (OP)
Information propagated much slower. Nowadays you can stream a new anime easily. Even before a new anime hit the scene you can use twitter or studio official sites to keep tabs on what they're up to.
There were no such things back then. And average household internet simply couldn't get anything of decent viewing quality with P2P
Anonymous No.281421067
>>281417620
>Do seasonal anime blogs even exist any more? I remember a lot of people constantly posting their thoughts on currently airing shows within their own corners even up to like 2015.
People like that just post those thoughts on twitter or reddit now. Having "your own place" largely went out of style.
Anonymous No.281421121
>>281417746
It's always been like that, tons of guys used to watch football just because the alternative was sitting there twiddling your thumbs during lunch break at work the next day while everyone around you were busy talking about "the game" You just lost it btw

It just switched to the current trendy shonenslop for the time being.
Anonymous No.281421611
>>281415276 (OP)
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Anonymous No.281421986 >>281422209
>>281415276 (OP)
It was shit. All anime looked the same. Sound design, writing, story telling was shit apart from some very rare exceptions.
Only reason to watch were some nice visuals but anime lacked character back then.
Anonymous No.281422209 >>281422406
>>281421986
Shit's only gotten more derivative now. Old shit certainly played to formula but now it's paint by numbers.
Anonymous No.281422406 >>281422726
>>281422209
Grow up.
Anonymous No.281422450
>>281415297
the madlad said it!
Anonymous No.281422525
If youโ€™re curious this guy was in the trenches back then
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuCjDb3AP-cS43IysjHXkf40Gyp6SGLxs
Anonymous No.281422726
>>281422406
Get Isekai'd.
Anonymous No.281423384
>>281415297
Correct
Anonymous No.281423524
>>281415276 (OP)
There was no "community"
Back in the 90s the closest thing to it was your irl friends talking about what aired on TV, and "that guy" in dressed all black with trench coat and a sling bag covered in otaku merch who was 3-4 years older and sold you the VHS and other stuff like posters and magazines.
Anonymous No.281423858
>>281415297
Yasuo Otsuka > Hayao Miyahacki