Thread 281417396

So what if I can't?

Cope, talentless and lazy shit

ONE is literally the best shounen has for a writer, and this is as close as Japan can come to a superhero message.

>>281417396 (OP)
>be a doctor
>can't make a can
>get fucked by by some kid with god powers
Such is life...

Eat paint

>>281418011
why were you destroying and looting the town, doctor?

>>281417396 (OP)
Then you should still not throw trash around.

>>281418254
Because creation cannot occur without destruction and funding.

>>281418412
Lets replace you with browns

>>281417396 (OP)
How come opm webcomic can’t be adapted but mob could?

>>281418450
Better than being replaced by spics, I'll take it.

>>281418489
Cuck

Is there seriously nobody in this universe that can make a fucking drinking container? But they can like nuke cities with laser beams and shit

>>281417396 (OP)
>CAN't
Good joke.

>>281418568
He said manufacturer. Do you know what goes into manufacturing? Do you know how aluminum is made? Also made to follow legal regulations?

>>281418568
The point of the scene is that it's a bunch of insecure fags who wanted to destroy lives and livelihoods just so they can jack themselves off.

>>281418785
>nonfunctional requirements

>>281418412
NOTHING is destroyed, only transformed

>>281417396 (OP)
You can

>>281417396 (OP)
So anyone can destroy, but not everyone can create

>>281418510
French

>>281417396 (OP)
you're watchign a show for kids but has mixed propaganda

>>281418412
>funding
Anon, you are so close to realizing what you are doing wrong. Come on, just one more step.

>>281420245
Okay you went too far with that one anon.

Id much rather have cool psychic powers than understand the ingenious design of the aluminum beverage can

>>281417396 (OP)
So tired of this thread.

I guess a guy that can manufacture a can isn't shit because he doesn't have psychic powers too

>>281420568
why not both

>>281420661
If I had mob's powers I would be cleaning house in Washington and destroying the nation of Israel (and Palestine). I don't have time to give a shit about aluminum cans

>>281418808
>I have power so I can and should be able to do whatever I want because I'm inherently better
Except you're not, they still rely on the people around them to live and their talent isn't necessarily more spectacular than anyone else's since even can manufacture is required for their lives.
If anything can manufacture is a way bigger deal since almost everyone uses it, even them.

>>281420736
No, having powers doesn't make you a better person, but if you have the ability to effect positive change in the world thru the use of those powers you have a moral obligation to do so.
Not using them to eradicate every pedophile, rapist, murderer, etc and just allowing them to roam free is fundamentally immoral. You are allowing harm to come to innocents by your inaction. Mob is wrong for not wanting to use his powers.

>>281420826
>but if you have the ability to effect positive change in the world thru the use of those powers you have a moral obligation to do so.
that's silly. why aren't you dedicating all of your time, resources and life to helping the less fortunate, then? you are fully capable of doing so.

>>281417396 (OP)
That shows you how INCREDIBLY advanced society is and the levels of maintenance and discipline it requires to function. You should gain some appreciation for the fact we perfected so many many many things in order to improve people's lives.

>>281418568
Your hands are a drinking container. Efficient, good quality drinking containers made to scale and be easily transportable are another issue and require engineering and tons of shit.

>>281417396 (OP)
Why would I need to? I can just force other people to do it for me.

>>281421251
That kind of relationship isn't beneficial for you in the long run. Mutual benefice is the best way forward

>Aggressively misinterpret every message even teenagers can understand.
>Win all arguments by claiming the writing is bad

>>281421338
But the most powerful and successful people in the world don't adhere to that, so how could that be true?

>>281421251
>Piss everyone off
>Become enemy #1
>Get killed in your sleep
There's a very good reason why the people who gain power fear losing it.

>>281421363
Yeah, because we live in paradise right now.
Let's ignore the sick society, genocide and impending WW3

>>281421366
And yet in practice it almost never actually happens. So you're wrong.

>>281417642
I like mob as much as the next guy but let's not pretend the heavy-handed meta commentary is hard to write.

>>281421378
Life is better than ever though. Or would you rather live in SHITdieval times?

>>281421363
Only because society at large still operates on these principles. These guys are tricking their way out of it and pretending they don't.

You CAN choose to be a bad agent, a leecher if you will, and if you're a small enough part it will work fine. But your principles are unsustainable and often you'll find the carrot works better than the stick.

>>281421403
There is no such principle in play here. Everybody's out to get as much as they can for themselves, some are just less successful than others (usually because those who have more don't let them).

>>281421379
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_revolutions_and_rebellions

you should really pay attention in history class.
If you're Chinese though, I understand the information is being kept from you.

>>281421431
It's like prisoner's dilemma. You can betray and you'll get short term wins but societies that thrive are the ones where people don't operate like that. Your medium/long term gain is better with cooperation than betrayal.

>>281421439
Most of those were started by other powerful people trying to get a bigger slice of the pie, not for any benevolent reasons.

Society has progressed enormously through constant competition, backstabbing and repression. This is just a fact of life. I don't think ONE's argument has any merit in reality.

>>281421449
That would be a good argument except there are no societies where people don't operate like that, and never have been. So it's just a baseless hypothesis.

>>281417396 (OP)
ONE is just a retarded midwit who think he's smarter than other
The sensible moral here is simple
>with great power comes great responsibility
>be a good person, don't be an ass
Instead ONE went with some retarded, flawed logic, why? Because he want to 'lecture' other, to belittle other.
ONE is such a cuck kek and his cult people are retards

>>281421488
Actually there have been studies about it that show cooperation is what gets you favorable results once you're past short term but I can't find it right now so you'll have to trust me (and your intuition) to see that "everyone is just out for themselves", while true, doesn't build societies and doesn't properly reflect complex realities

>>281421398
Life became better BECAUSE kings were deposed

>>281421515
But it does build societies. It built all of ours. Maybe there are some theoretical benefits to acting differently, but we don't and never did. We're still climbing upwards as a whole though, so maybe we're actually doing it right?

>>281418489
Fuck yeah, fuck those parasitic beaner pieces of shit

>>281421515
The world is in a constant state of struggling with cooperation and individuality. The pendulum always swings too far one way or the other.

>>281421541
And we were still progressing even when kings were around.

>>281421543
"Looking out for yourself" is one thing, "looking out for yourself at all costs and stabbing people in the back all the time" is another thing. Long, fruitful cooperation relationships are more profitable to both sides than aggression. It's merely PRAGMATIC to show some restraint. While I'm not denying virtue exists, I'm saying my words aren't backed up by virtue but by the realities of free exchange and mutual benefit.

>>281421572
When kings realized that in order for their nations to compete, they had to stop being retard tyrants, yes, society kept progressing and kingly power became less and less important.
The end point of an enlightened monarchy is still republicanism/democracy

>>281421580
Except, as I keep saying, all evidence suggests that this isn't true. Being as much of an asshole as you can get away with is the recipe to success in every society that has ever existed. And despite the fact that this is regularly practiced all over the world, progress hasn't ceased.

This entire debate is ridiculous.
YES, the carrot is sometimes better than the stick. The stick is useful in some contexts but the carrot is more often the preferred solution for higher returns. This shouldn't even up for question

>>281421619
Mutually beneficial relationships, whether enforced by the pragmatic realities of business or by people's ethics and morals, are still the cornerstone of civilization and progress. You can call it "being an asshole" being it doesn't necessarily have to be enforced by virtue (I would disagree on that denomination) but my point is clear

>>281421633
And yet you keep dodging all the evidence that doesn't agree with it (ie all of history).

>>281421645
Says the guy who regularly disregards any evidence that conflict with his own view, you hypocrite.

>>281421672
What evidence did you present?

>>281417396 (OP)
I probably could press the button that starts the machine that makes the can, yes.

>>281421229
There's nothing extremely special about the requirements of a tin can, any retard can order sheet metal off McMaster and build something that could contain pressure and clean water. In fact you'd be far better off if you had telekinetic powers. In fact if you could capture fucking shredded paper flying away in the wind and reassemble them in their exact previous format it would probably be very simple. Even if you get super duper autistic about it and you make him mine the metal out of the Earth, it's only impressive because it's a pain in the ass, not complex, and you'd again be far better off if you had telekinetic/pyrokinetic/alien nigga laser eyes or whatever to simplify the metallurgy. In fact you wouldn't be limited by what's possible with current tool methodology and you could probably make the most swagger badass can of all time with telekinetic magical awesomeness techniques. If the argument is scale/muh automation then nobody wins because the entire point of that is removing the human from the equation entirely to begin with. And the guy building the robot would still be better off with telekinetic powers.

>>281421688
Says the Chink as the Liveleak Logo appears

>>281421714
>the argument is scale/muh automation then nobody wins because the entire point of that is removing the human from the equation entirely to begin with.
And I’m not even very convinced about this either, imagine magic nigga is so telekinetic he can retrieve a bunch of ripped paper flying away in the wind and simultaneously reassemble them back into their exact original order, no adhesive, no bullshit. Once he’s got the (extremely simple) crimping technique down, what’s stopping this guy from taking his big ass sheet of tin and, oh I don’t know, making a fucking million cans at once?

>>281421826
If the button is on the top of a Chinese escalator, I would probably need psychic powers to reach it alive

>>281421387
It wouldn't need to be heavy-handed if people weren't too stupid to read between the lines.

>>281421714
The Tin Can is easily one of the most advanced invention in the world, the fuck you on

The sheer purification methods for aluminum alone is so advanced, it was deemed impossible for mass production until well past 1900's

And this is not including the preservation method of the Tin Can, which is not just about preserving the food, but also ensuring that the metal would not contaminate the contents

>>281418412
As a larping doctor you sound like one of those firefighters that do arson to ride the hero high.

>>281421501
How does one get filtered by a manga for children?
Mob's point is that you have no right to act like you're superior to others because of your superpowers because at the end of the day, without them and the knowledge or skill of their craft your like would be a lot harder, or not even happen at all.

You drink sodas all the time yet you don't know how they're made. Same with how to obtain food or cure sicknesses. How do you get clean, running water in your home? Do you know how your air conditioner works? How specifically are your clothes made? Even if you are just going to look that up, whose responsible for providing you internet or the book with the info for whatever you want to know?

>>281417396 (OP)
Unironically kino scene.

>>281421916
What “advanced purification methods”? Oh, you mean “how do we make this really really really really hot”? Idk, have you tried using magic lmao?
What a ridiculous argument. No sane person wouldn’t believe that super people wouldn’t instantly multiply productivity 100000x

>>281421968
Bayer Process
Hall-Héroult Process
Hoopes Process

In that order

It involves the use of acids, chemicals, pressure, and electricity.
Temperature is barely used. Aluminium has a low melting point

>>281421968
Aluminium has a melting point of 660C
Any fire kiln can do that. I think common grilling house reaches that temperature too

Aluminium is easy to melt, nearly impossible to isolate and purify

If you don't know advanced levels of chemistry and physics, you cannot extract it

>>281421960
I am genuinely confused by this line of reasoning. People only know a very thin strip of potential knowledge in this world and participate on only a very small part of a given process. No one person can make a can from scratch and also the soda and be a doctor etc. This applies to everyone.
HOWEVER
Not everyone has psychic powers. Now what's interesting about psychic powers is that they're a means of applying FORCE and VIOLENCE. All authority in this world is derived from the threat of violence backed by the potential to make good on that threat. All laws are backed by law enforcement.
Therefore, a person with psychic powers is an entity more akin to the police or the military: a force capable of violence, and therefore capable of exerting power and therefore possessing authority.
Mob himself is an example of this: he is stronger, so he forces his views on those he disagrees with. Every single time. If Mob didn't have the powers he does, nobody would care about him or what he thinks.
The existence of law enforcement or the military do not require cops or soldiers to be able to replace the entire production line that goes into the creation of a soda can. The existence of people with psychic powers does not require the psychic individual to replace the entire production line that goes into the creation of a soda can. Psychic powers represent authority backed by force.
>b-but what gives you the right
Might makes right.
>b-but that's wrong
Then why does Mob use his might to force people to follow his ethical decisions?
>b-but he's conforming to society
I see, so conforming to society is good because Mob has a potential for the use of greater force and therefore can force others to conform to society.
>b-but
Might makes right.

>>281422010
>>281422038
You don't understand what you're talking about. Aluminum oxide melts at thousands of degrees. All this shit was invented because they could not get it that hot. It would be trivial for a magical nigga.

>>281417396 (OP)
With molding machine yes

>>281421960
>you have no right to act superior
>me the superior being say so

>>281417396 (OP)
It's not as if can manufacturers are doing it out of love for the craft. They wouldn't be doing it if they hadn't been forced into it through economic circumstances.

So even if a psychic god was in charge they'd still be doing it.

>>281417396 (OP)
Noooooo!!!!
Don't turn me into a wagie, Mob!!!!

>>281421366
Israel is literally the most powerful country in the world despite doing all that tho, and don't forget the Samson protocol

>>281422283
lol, they had to flee with the tail behind their back with iran bypassing their shield and destroying several key buildings. they went from -it's over for iran- to -actually we dont care that much- in less than a week.

>>281422283
>Israel is literally the most powerful country
It works because they are allied with the actual most powerful country.

>>281421960
Mob villains act superior to others not because they are strong, but because they are assholes.

>>281418254
to send a message

>>281422283
>Israel is literally the most powerful country in the world
>hide like a bitch behind blackmails and media

>>281418254
Because black lives matter.

The point is just "you shouldn't be a dick just because you are special" but delivered in a really awkward and convoluted way

>>281422126
A thousand degrees is piss easy, wtf are you on
Iron melts at 2000C

Temperature is meaningless for aluminium extraction
In fact, too much heat is BAD for any metal as that risks vaporization.

>>281422539
It feels like the author had a cool idea, and wanted to shove it into his story somehow

>>281422283
>Israel is literally the most powerful country in the world
HAHAHAHAHA
USA is super wary about sending infantry over there because Israelites have a habit of hiding behind others because "they are too special"

I watched an entire platoon of IDF tanks getting bombed by 1 single guy because they were under the impression that they are too special to be on alert

Jews sabotage each other

>>281418412
That FED jewish thinking.

>>281418489
>>281418450
Mexicans/Spanish are Indians you foolish fool.

>>281422157
>If you kill him for trying to kill you, then you'd be just like him!

>>281420826
>Not using them to eradicate every pedophile, rapist, murderer, etc
Heh, I wonder if some autistic discord mod or twitter nigger sperg who say things like this were to be given mob's power and let them enact their "moral justice", what exactly will happen?
Surely any human could be the paragon of unbiased justice and be the center of the humanity's morale, even those who haven't even reached their 30s.

>>281422639
You watched this where? In person?

>>281422054
>Mob himself is an example of this: he is stronger, so he forces his views on those he disagrees with. Every single time. If Mob didn't have the powers he does, nobody would care about him or what he thinks.
The enemies argument was that they could do so because people without psychic powers were worthless, which mob retorted with the question.
They can't be inherently worthless if your life would fall apart without the "peons".
He never said that might doesn't make right (Which doesn't really make you right. If I'm the only one in the world who knows how to make clean drinking water, you're just as fucked as anybody else even if you can beat me up.)

i just finished this show yesterday, overall it was extremely overrated and boring. I did like the reigen episode but that was about it, really doesn't justify the hype around it. I guess all it takes for this place and reddit to like a show is see good animation and make a basedface. This show didn't take any of it's characters seriously yet i'm supposed to feel invested? the tone is just all over the place and makes it an extremely boring and forgettable experience where i didn't give a shit about anything that happened in it. The music is definitely a plus but Kenji Kawai is cheating. Solid 5/10