Thread 281469949

>gae bolgs you
>misses due to luck check
>jobs and fucking dies

the only thing anyone really remembers of this shit is UBW

GAY BULGE

>>281469970
Retarded teen

>>281469949 (OP)
Nasu writing

I feel sorry for the jobbers in this shit. From their perspective each of them is a proud hero from the Throne, but the universe is like "Sorry it says here you have to job, so....bye."

>>281470003
That's what makes those moments cool, dumbass.

>>281470020
I mean it kinda has to happen when you pit a bunch of heroes together, right? The King Arthur of Welsh folklore was no less a monster than Cu Chulainn. Inevitable, someone HAS to lose. The monsters and armies he took down were in some ways every bit as terrible as the Twelve Labors of Heracles. Nowadays, only the stories after Camelot was established are popular, but before the French got their hands on him, Arthur was, due to a combination of a bunch of different disparate folk tales, essentially a country-trotting superheroes who took down monsters left and right, while also singlehanded taking down dozens of soldiers in one blow (which, admittedly, was a fairly normal ability that a lot of Welsh folklore heroes had).

>>281469949 (OP)
>tfw a potatonigger jobs to a sheepshagger
10/10 Nasu writing

>>281470118
Is the French nerf canon?

>>281469949 (OP)
That's the problem with Automatic win abilities , if you let them work you have no story Left

>>281470169
It's more popular so it doesn't matter. There is no "true" King Arthur canon. Unlike other major heroes who had major important stories that serve as the foundations for everything else, the legend of Arthur was slowly built upon by a bunch of different writes, bards and historians over the course of many centuries. He wasn't even a king originally, just a somewhat prominent general. The exact origins of his name and identity are largely unknown (the idea that he's derived from a Roman general named Artorius is also just speculation). The earliest known stories of Arthur weren't all that special, but his name somehow spread throughout Britain and people just kept adding more and more to his myth, some contradictory, others blatantly stolen from other actual historical events, until it all converged into the singular legend of Arthur, with him evolving into a messianic figure who would be destined to return someday. Then at some point he became a king, and the initial concepts of the Knights of the Round Table and Camelot were born. Then the French got their hands on him, and decided to expand on his post-coronation era, especially with the Round Table. Eventually, characters like Gawain, Percival, Lancelot and Galahad became more popular, overshadowing Arthur himself. But the important thing to note is that before he became King of the British Isles, King Arthur was a monster-slaying, army-conquer superhuman messiah.

>>281469949 (OP)
>dodges the magic spear that reverts causality to ensure it hits
>can't dodge wobbly punches

>>281469976
RAW ASS

>>281470305
Most Noble Phantasms in Fate/stay night are automatic win abilities. Or do you think Lancer can facetank Excalibur?

>>281469949 (OP)
>>gay bolgs you
What a stupid name

>>281470506
Seiba failed her reflex check.

>>281469949 (OP)
Well does kind of make sense as in Cu Chulainn’s story the spear only killed people he was close with such as Ferdiad and Connla

>>281470062
>"here's my ultimate unblockable attack!"
>attack gets blocked
>anon shits and cums
Your brain hasn't developed beyond the level of a middle schooler if you genuinely find that cool.

>jobs
Cu isn't supposed to win or accomplish anything in F/SN by design. He got fucked over before the story even starts and is only still around to provide Kotomine with more entertainment.

>>281471101
You don't get it. You likely have a head injury or developmental disorder.

Would Scathack fare better? Never mind random stats pulled from a wiki.

>>281469949 (OP)
>character's ability is LITERALLY called "gay bulge"
>I'm supposed to take him seriously

>>281469949 (OP)
Could Lancer kill Milfeulle using Gae Bolg? Or would he end up killing himself?

>>281470003
>>281471101
>"I think the story should abruptly end whenever a protag encounters a seemingly insurmountable hurdle"
Good thing you're not the one writing. You don't know what kino is.
Also, "who is stronger" is hardly ever the point of those encounters. At least google "conflicts in literature" and try to learn how to interface with fiction for once. Faggot

>umissable attack
>misses
Oh, okay so we're just lying now. Just lying to iur readers on the raw stats page I see. Wow this is so engaging and gripping when the words on a page don't matter because the author said so.

>>281469949 (OP)
roll 20 in luck, fuck u

>>281472720
but it didn't miss.
saber was injured and it influenced her further actions

>>281469949 (OP)
he didnt job in the lb6 as a caster

>>281469949 (OP)
>super secret legendary special ability with an undodgeable attack
>misses

>>281472720
When Lancer launched Gae Bolg on Saber, he didn't state that it couldn't miss beforehand. We only learned its properties later on, well after this fight. Lancer stated that the attack was sure-kill, but nearly all Noble Phantasms are sure-kill. Gae Bolg, Excalibur, Nine Lives, Caladbolg, these are all weapons designed to end the enemy's life in one strike. Nearly all of them fail. Even the VN's most powerful Noble Phantasm, Ea, fails to kill anyone.

The reason people latch onto Gae Bolg specifically is because, after this fight, we see a description of it and learn that it's a strike that reverses causality. It's the VN's first example of an esoteric power that fucks with the laws of physics, so it retroactively became a big deal. But something you have to understand about Type-Moon is that esoteric physics-defying bullshit is usually just a parlor trick. At the end of the day, do you know what the greatest power in any Nasu story is? Raw brute force. This principle is present in Notes, Tsukihime, Fate and even Kara no Kyoukai. The most power individual in KnK isn't the bitch who can one-shot (almost) anything or the thousand-year-old monk with a magic monster apartment. No, it's the bitch who twists things. Raw power, completely inelegant brute force.

>>281470721
>gay blogs about you
What now big boy?

>>281469949 (OP)
the fights were the worst part of fate stay night excluding kirei vs assassin. and the redman twist is retarded.

>>281470062
>That's what makes those moments cool
If you're the kind of low IQ type nasushit is written for then sure, I guess.

Gay Bulge vs Wobbly punches, who wins?
Keep in mind the punches are extra wobbly this time.

>>281473972
How are the wobbly punches any worse than Li Shuwen's No Second Strike? There are literally Servants whose NPs literally just boil down to "epic anime martial arts technique".

>>281473610
>Ea
>fail to kill anyone
Because it wasn't at full power?
Gil murders mostly with GoB and that's his weaker NP.

>>281469949 (OP)
>Well you see if I hit you it's an instant kill
>So you'll never hit and always come across as a jobber?
Ack

>>281473972
>wobbly punches buffed by magic from the Age of the Gods
>against a servant heavily nerfed by her master being a dogshit magus

>>281471101
bum ass post your favorite series n lemme see if you can even enjoy fiction

>>281474148
The only individuals he kills with Gate of Babylon are Medea and Heracles in UBW. Pretty much all NPs fail 50-70% of the time. In most stories, a Noble Phantasm will be lucky to kill even one individual, two at most. After all, there are only seven Servants. You can't kill any of them off too early.

>>281470003
I enjoyed reading both F/SN and F/HA and I think that the fights are the weakest part. There were so many moments where attacks are described as unavoidable and certain death just to be subverted. If you do it once, fine, but at some point I started finding it comical. For me, the character and SoL moments are where Nasu shines, while the fights mostly bored me.

>>281476335
Because nearly all attacks ARE supposed to be certain death. How many times do you think Gae Bolg failed to hit its mark back when Cu Chulainn was alive? How often do you think King Arthur ran into a situation where Excalibur failed to atomize its target?

>>281476636
So are nukes, but if I'm reading a story about super humans throwing nukes at each other without dying and a majority of the nuclear barrages are described as certain death, I would find that silly too.

>>281469949 (OP)
even though it "missed" it still left saber with an incurable and debilitating wound and lancer would have killed her if he hadn't been forced to retreat by his master

>>281476794
The narration isn't wholly impartial. It's from Shirou's viewpoint. When he says something is sure-hit, it means he expects it to be so. From his viewpoint (and this matters because he has the ability to instantly read and understand most weapons he sees), these weapons should be sure-hit. Shirou isn't impartial enough to narrate things purely objectively.

>>281475312
Your Cu in Fate?
GoB is the only powerful NP that kills another servant without asspull.

>>281470311
>There is no "true" King Arthur canon. Unlike other major heroes who had major important stories that serve as the foundations for everything else, the legend of Arthur was slowly built upon by a bunch of different writes, bards and historians over the course of many centuries.
That's true for almost all myths.

>>281476913
It's especially true for Arthur. Before the French came along, it's impossible to even say that every single mention of "Arthur" in Welsh folk tales were even talking about the same guy.

>>281475017
Not him but I like Hellsing which is also Chuuni but it isn’t written like shit.
Fate has a neat premise of ancient heroes ducking it out and seeing the modern world but the characters, plot, and setting are beyond uninteresting and they even hand wave away the whole learning about/from the modern world bits.

>>281476852
>he has the ability to instantly read and understand most weapons he sees
He learns of their structure, but he doesn't get a perfect printout of how they work unless he actually sees them at work. Seeing Gae Bolg doesn't tell him exactly what the spear is and does, which is why he doesn't instantly learn every servant's name upon first meeting.

>>281471005
To be fair, that's because he saved it for situations when things were most dire.

>>281477103
No? That's wrong. We see multiple times that he can immediately understand what a weapon does from the moment he lays eyes on it. At first, it was all subconscious. The information was downloaded into his brain but he wasn't actively aware of it. After he became more aware of the nature of his ability, he was able to access this info more fluidly.

Unlimited Blade Works functions by automatically scanning and storing weapons in his internal world. As long as a weapon has been saved in UBW, Shirou knows how it works. He doesn't need to see it work, nor does he have to use it himself. He knows exactly what a weapon's all about so long as it's stored. Subsequently, weapons that he can't scan like Ea also can't be immediately understood.

>>281476852
>he has the ability to instantly read and understand most weapons he sees
Retard.

>>281472720
>Just lying to iur readers on the raw stats page
The "raw stats page" is an abstraction for Shirou's benefit. It isn't a lie, he's literally just wrong about how the rules work.

gay bulge lmao

>>281476876
>Your Cu in Fate?
Unidentified method of death. Given that Kirei had given up on him as his servant and the fight raged on for 12 hours, he may very well have just run out of mana and Gilgamesh finished him off when he could no longer move.

>>281477174
>12 hours
Yep, killed by GoB.

>>281477198
I personally like how DEEN Stay Night handled it. Cu was caught by Enkidu and then Gilgamesh pulled out Caladbolg, which Cu was destined to lose to if he ever encountered it again.

>>281469949 (OP)
>character has an ability so their attack never misses
>somehow they miss

>>281476852
>>281477103
>>281477140
Shirou has sword autism. He has knowledge about different mythologies, their characters and their weapons.

Shirou's thoughts are very emotional and he tends to exaggerate everything.

>>281477247
It's one of the best parts of the anime but sadly they used Archer's version and not the actual Caladbolg. The anime writers know their Celtic myth but it's still from the GoB so..
>>281477325
>sword autism
>analyzes a spear

>>281470506
It's an Asian story so martial arts are always treated as super powerful techniques.

>>281476971
Interesting, I will look into this.

>>281470003
unironically kino

>>281469949 (OP)
If Saber's so lucky why did she die young?

Gae Bolg did not actually miss Saber. She just rolled a 20 due to her sky high luck on the saving throw against the instant kill effect.

>>281476876
It usually also requires the heavenly chains to do the deed though, and the chains itself is an asspull.

>>281470003
>Average shonen ass-pull

>>281469949 (OP)
He fought a serious Gilgamesh for 12 hours and gave him serious injury.. that's better feats than Hercules and Alexander the great,

>>281479972
He didn't injure Gilgamesh. He just held him off for 12 hours, which is admittedly pretty impressive. But perhaps slightly less so when you consider that Gil could have ended it any time if he didn't feel too proud to Enkidu him, or that his kit is incredibly defense-oriented. Like him having super high agility, Protection from Arrows, Battle Continuation, and some nasty runes.

>>281469949 (OP)
>misses due to luck check
More like You have to roll the luck check to plot armor.exe